Not a truck guy so I guess I don’t understand the hate this thing gets. Seems like it’s attracting a lot of new buyers that aren’t the typical truck owners from the comments here.
The frunk was certainly not created by Tesla nor EVs. Rear-engined cars have had the trunk in the front for decades. Just because someone coins a new version of what to call something, does not make that thing new. Here is an excerpt from a magazine article from 1970. The rear-mounted engine may usurp some rear load space in the Volkswagen Squareback, but a roomy front trunk makes up for the loss. - Alex Markovich, Popular Mechanics, September 1970
I think the obvious comparison isn’t so much the Lightning as the EV Silverado RST. Which it seems to not compare too favorably. If this was the only EV truck, I think its quirks would be forgiven. But it isn’t.
From April 2024, I can’t help but notice references to things that are promised (and paid for by buyers) but are not included. Such things as self driving modes, the front light bar. In your Ocean review you bemoan that it’s out of the oven too early. That currently seems the case for this truck. And the reviews I’m seeing by many suggest it is a product of the original child’s drawing brought in by Elon and given to engineers to create. Nothing like a car or truck design created by someone who doesn’t drive a car or truck and never has too.
I’m a bit biased because I do love the look of these, but I think it’s a truck. Especially compared to the Ridgelines and Mavericks of the world. I would be interested to know the relative dimensions of the front seats, if they were closer to Ridgeline or F-150 seats in terms of depth and width, and a car seat test of the rear bench would be super helpful.
Unfortunately I didn't get much time with it but we're hoping to get our hands on one and if we do you can be sure there will be a full review. -Travis
I saw my 1st cyber truck irl the other day. for whatever reason it didn't seem as huge as I thought it would be. It's odd looking, but plain and simple in it's lines. I don't care for the man that runs Tesla, so their products are not for me, but I have to admit it's cool looking for what it is.
It’s a “lifestyle vehicle” Think of it like a TRX or G-63, where most people will never use it what it’s built for. However, it can’t do what it’s built for where it claims to be a truck. Regardless about what you say about things like the previous or the Defender, they are highly capable vehicles with little compromise. Where this is a vehicle that has tons of compromises. However, for the people that like something that’s very different it’s probably pretty cool and can do a ton of cool stuff. BTW how does this thing NOT have a rearview camera. It’s like the 7 series with the television not having one.
Throttle House took one Cybertruck on a road trip a while ago. They pointed quite a lot of flaws, and visibility was the biggest one. It's dangerous trying to drive something that is difficult to see out of.
Our neighbor has a cyber truck. They just had the whole vehicle professionally wrapped by AUX. The vehicle was delivered stainless steel silver/grey. Now it is all black & tinted.
Can I go to the gravel dealer and get a front end loader bucket of crusher fines? How about 64 4'x8'x0.5" sheets of sheetrock? A pallet of cinder blocks? If not, then it's a toy.
How much to replace that wiper blade? If you need to ask you cannot afford it. Im just curious. We can't tell you. Why not We don't know how much. Like lobster, market price.
Our neighbor purchased a cyber truck. We (the whole neighborhood) now have to look at this stupid looking vehicle forever now. …i keep half expecting zombies to run down the block and clammer over this monstrosity…
It fits in their suburban garage. Barely. But they usually leave it in the driveway or on street curb. Because they use their garage for kid scooters and bikes and camping gear.
@@AAutoBuyersGuidei should also mention- they own a tesla model Y & mercedes suv EV (they hate and plan to sell). They have two young kids. Their vehicles are always out in rotation: pick ip kids/drop off kids. And they go camping a lot. There is a lot of packing and unpacking and loading and unloading of their vehicles for adventuring. But it is very annoying the crowds this vehicle draws even on the road. It was the THIRD cybertruck to be delivered in Orange County. So it is a rare site at the moment. A novelty.
It's real. It fits people and cargo. That probably disqualifies it from being a TOTAL joke but it's certainly marching to the beat of its own drum. -Travis
Sure, because according to multiple studies 72% of truck owners NEVER tow, and another 18% tow once a year or less… so sure, all trucks tow. It also has 17” clearance without low hanging differential… and it has 110v and 240v outlets which would be SUPER helpful for MOST people using the truck for work. Oh, also, unlike most nail polish paint Barbie trucks that if you sneeze at scratches and dent like hell, the stainless steel body is pretty much dent proof (reviewers used sledge hummers and couldn’t dent it)… and the glass is gorilla glass so much less likely to get rock chips and almost impossible to crack (due to special internal lamination). But sure, it’s not a truck…
Yeah, people who can afford to are going to lift and wrap them for maximum attention too. I imagine it's going to last a while cause I don't see em selling like the big 3 electric trucks will, so the owners will feel "special" for at least a few years.
I would love to get a bunch of truck owners together and have them drive this doing real, everyday tasks they would normally do in their truck. I don't mean towing at the max capacity or trying to haul everything in the world, I mean the everyday things that most trucks are actually used for. -Travis
@@AAutoBuyersGuide I haven't driven one, but I've already been up close. The high "bed" rail and lack of bumper steps are automatic dealbreakers. Anything up against the bulkhead cannot be reached without climbing in. That would be a daily pain for people who work. There's a whole bunch of other points I'd have issues with, but even simple things are nonstarters.
If you're just ignore objective differences that matter when you're towing or hauling or using the thing as a "truck", then anything can qualify as a "truck". I mean, a Honda Accord is a "truck" now.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Not all trucks have open beds. In fact, some don't even have beds at all. What even is a bed anyways? It's just the place where you put stuff. I can do that in a trunk. Again, it just ignores what matters in reality.
Cybertruck is awesome and highlights how Tesla is far ahead of traditional manufacturers in many areas; 800V main battery, 48V accessories, drive by wire, software, giga-castings, SS panels, etc., but also shows where Tesla fails; noise, vibration and harshness (NVH) because it does not have a steel truck frame with rubber isolation for the cab, and driving range is similar but definitely not better than the Lightning and Rivian. Tesla should make a "real truck" version where the body giga castings are revised to have rubber isolation pads on a frame with all suspension, motors, battery etc mounted to the frame (traditional skateboard). This is where the Lightning is so much better because its rubber cab isolation mounts provide a very smooth and quiet driving experience that's easy to live with every day. The Cybertruck has awesome tech, but is let down by the noisy-crashy driving experience with no range improvement over the competition.
What a stupid design. Terrible visibility. Poor usability (try lifting something into the bed from the side). Terrible ergonomics for the driver. Yuck.
@@steinwaymodelb That's not an excuse, that's just being fallacious. If regular trucks are bad, the Cybertruck is worse than that because the rails are integrated in to the roofline. Besides, it's not just the height of the rails that's an issue, it's the ability to reach the floor of the bed. I have a 4x4 3500 truck on oversized A/Ts, and I can still the reach the floor of my truck by just reaching over the rail. The rails are armpit height. In my smaller trucks, I actually have to bend down to reach the floor.
If they decide to make another Back to the Future movie, this is the vehicle 😂.
I don't see how they could go any different direction on that one. -Travis
Not a truck guy so I guess I don’t understand the hate this thing gets. Seems like it’s attracting a lot of new buyers that aren’t the typical truck owners from the comments here.
Sales numbers will be interesting this year and next to set how popular it actually is.-Travis
It's wild that the dash is as long as, or longer than the hood 🤣
It's an open expanse up there. -Travis
Wild? How about incredibly inconvenient for cleaning it from the inside. Take it from a C7 corvette owner.
If Ridgeline and Maverick are trucks, which they are, then this definitely passes for one too
Agreed. -Travis
Maybe a conversation crossover? 🤷🏼♂️
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Mid-sized trucks are useful but not real pickup trucks.
While I would never have any intention of owning any Tesla vehicle, and doubly for the cyber truck, that thing is cool to look at at least.
It's hard to miss and draws a crowd. -Travis
The BEST damn TRUCK ever made!
Car is short for Carriage. All vehicles are carriages. They all can tow. Trucks just have a cargo bed in the back
Which the Cybertruck does. -Travis
Wow you guys beat Doug to the punch, nice work!!!;)
Tesla succeeded in transforming the electric car shape from a golf cart into a mainstream. But when it came to the truck!! Naaaah.
From the general public response this isn't likely to be the new "it" look in the world of trucks. -Travis
The frunk was certainly not created by Tesla nor EVs. Rear-engined cars have had the trunk in the front for decades. Just because someone coins a new version of what to call something, does not make that thing new. Here is an excerpt from a magazine article from 1970.
The rear-mounted engine may usurp some rear load space in the Volkswagen Squareback, but a roomy front trunk makes up for the loss.
- Alex Markovich, Popular Mechanics, September 1970
This is true, I suppose a better way to put it would be "popularized by". -Travis
What's the point of this product
It's an electric truck and the competition is quite limited in the segment. -Travis
I think the obvious comparison isn’t so much the Lightning as the EV Silverado RST. Which it seems to not compare too favorably. If this was the only EV truck, I think its quirks would be forgiven. But it isn’t.
If it had been available a few years ago I think there would have been more wiggle room. -Travis
@@AAutoBuyersGuidewell I think you forget to say it’s not what but when and what. It’s about timing and the product.
I think it's a truck but i also think the changli is a truck
A truck is a truck is a truck. -Travis
From April 2024, I can’t help but notice references to things that are promised (and paid for by buyers) but are not included. Such things as self driving modes, the front light bar. In your Ocean review you bemoan that it’s out of the oven too early. That currently seems the case for this truck. And the reviews I’m seeing by many suggest it is a product of the original child’s drawing brought in by Elon and given to engineers to create. Nothing like a car or truck design created by someone who doesn’t drive a car or truck and never has too.
Saw one yesterday and my 5 yr old asked if the zombies were coming
I’m a bit biased because I do love the look of these, but I think it’s a truck. Especially compared to the Ridgelines and Mavericks of the world.
I would be interested to know the relative dimensions of the front seats, if they were closer to Ridgeline or F-150 seats in terms of depth and width, and a car seat test of the rear bench would be super helpful.
it for sure has presence, in a way we haven't really seen since the 1980's.
Unfortunately I didn't get much time with it but we're hoping to get our hands on one and if we do you can be sure there will be a full review. -Travis
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Thanks Travis, looking forward to it!
Highly contentious, not contested.
ive seen a few of these with civilian license plates, so i think they are out. i do live next to HQ though...
They're out in the world and their numbers will only increase with time...until they don't. -Travis
I saw my 1st cyber truck irl the other day. for whatever reason it didn't seem as huge as I thought it would be. It's odd looking, but plain and simple in it's lines. I don't care for the man that runs Tesla, so their products are not for me, but I have to admit it's cool looking for what it is.
Are you aware of the political leanings/beliefs of the execs of most products and services you buy?
It’s a “lifestyle vehicle” Think of it like a TRX or G-63, where most people will never use it what it’s built for. However, it can’t do what it’s built for where it claims to be a truck. Regardless about what you say about things like the previous or the Defender, they are highly capable vehicles with little compromise. Where this is a vehicle that has tons of compromises. However, for the people that like something that’s very different it’s probably pretty cool and can do a ton of cool stuff.
BTW how does this thing NOT have a rearview camera. It’s like the 7 series with the television not having one.
I'd agree that it could easily fall into the lifestyle category but that doesn't mean it's NOT capable. -Travis
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Fair.
I mean, i guess it's a truck. Although the shape is rather bizarre. As is the price tag. 🤷♀️
Throttle House took one Cybertruck on a road trip a while ago. They pointed quite a lot of flaws, and visibility was the biggest one. It's dangerous trying to drive something that is difficult to see out of.
Of course, because new trucks that have a hood that’s 4-5’ tall has great visibility… those throttle house folks drive very few if any trucks.
The glass ratios are strange in the cabin, there's a larger sheet of glass above the rear seats than the visibility out the rear windows. -Travis
@@ranig2848 it would be a good idea to watch the video to know what exactly they said about visibility.
I wonder how the stainless steel exterior will hold up. Will Tesla make a version with painted exterior instead?
Our neighbor has a cyber truck. They just had the whole vehicle professionally wrapped by AUX. The vehicle was delivered stainless steel silver/grey. Now it is all black & tinted.
I don't think they will, exterior wrapping will be the way to change the color/cover the steel. -Travis
I own Tesla Model S and if I had to buy a pickup truck, I would definitely get a Rivian
You're not alone in that. -Travis
Can I go to the gravel dealer and get a front end loader bucket of crusher fines? How about 64 4'x8'x0.5" sheets of sheetrock? A pallet of cinder blocks? If not, then it's a toy.
Sounds like you use your truck a lot more than most. -Travis
I wonder how many real world miles the 60k version will have.
Depends on what kind of driving you're doing, it will always be less on the highway. -Travis
How much to replace that wiper blade?
If you need to ask you cannot afford it.
Im just curious.
We can't tell you.
Why not
We don't know how much.
Like lobster, market price.
I haven't asked but I can't imagine it's drastically more than a standard set of wiper blades. I could be wrong though. -Travis
Hi Spring! it's $75 for the blade and $165 in case you need to replace entire arm assembly, it's immediately apparent with a google search:)
I saw this vehicle in person and I have to say it’s the most hideous new vehicle I’ve ever seen
I think it's hard to wrap one's head around because it's just so different. -Travis
You have every right to your opinion and thank you for speaking it out loud and participating, have a wonderful day!
Alex is sleeping at home.
He's at an undisclosed location. -Travis
Is the channel being handed over?
Knowledge is being passed down but nothing is being handed over per se. -Travis
This truck is for people who are not constantly obsessing (gatekeeping) over what a truck is and isn't.
Good point, a truck "purist" is likely not going to be converted to the Cybertruck. -Travis
Here come the comments where they say the cybertruck is junk
Yet I see people buying it. It’s obvious that the car matters more than the brand
Are you sure people aren't buying the Cybertruck BECAUSE of the brand? -Travis
@@AAutoBuyersGuide but in this case the brand itself is cooler. Tesla offers a macho manly kind of wow factor that draws customers to it
Different for the sake of being different. No advantages to this shape are apparent.
None that I can think of besides standing out. -Travis
I'd like to drive it, but I wouldn't buy it.
I wouldn't go buy it either but if one was in the market for an electric truck it should be considered. -Travis
Our neighbor purchased a cyber truck. We (the whole neighborhood) now have to look at this stupid looking vehicle forever now.
…i keep half expecting zombies to run down the block and clammer over this monstrosity…
Does it not fit in their garage? -Travis
It fits in their suburban garage. Barely. But they usually leave it in the driveway or on street curb. Because they use their garage for kid scooters and bikes and camping gear.
@@AAutoBuyersGuidei should also mention- they own a tesla model Y & mercedes suv EV (they hate and plan to sell). They have two young kids. Their vehicles are always out in rotation: pick ip kids/drop off kids. And they go camping a lot. There is a lot of packing and unpacking and loading and unloading of their vehicles for adventuring.
But it is very annoying the crowds this vehicle draws even on the road. It was the THIRD cybertruck to be delivered in Orange County. So it is a rare site at the moment. A novelty.
This thing is a total joke. Inside & out.
It's real. It fits people and cargo. That probably disqualifies it from being a TOTAL joke but it's certainly marching to the beat of its own drum. -Travis
Pavement princess aimed at a target demographic that is eating it up, it’s NOT a truck in the sense of what a truck is meant for, work and towing.
Sure, because according to multiple studies 72% of truck owners NEVER tow, and another 18% tow once a year or less… so sure, all trucks tow. It also has 17” clearance without low hanging differential… and it has 110v and 240v outlets which would be SUPER helpful for MOST people using the truck for work. Oh, also, unlike most nail polish paint Barbie trucks that if you sneeze at scratches and dent like hell, the stainless steel body is pretty much dent proof (reviewers used sledge hummers and couldn’t dent it)… and the glass is gorilla glass so much less likely to get rock chips and almost impossible to crack (due to special internal lamination). But sure, it’s not a truck…
Yeah, people who can afford to are going to lift and wrap them for maximum attention too. I imagine it's going to last a while cause I don't see em selling like the big 3 electric trucks will, so the owners will feel "special" for at least a few years.
It can work and tow though, especially when compared to the other EV trucks on the market. -Travis
home depot sells huge plant pots that won’t drive themselves home
@@AAutoBuyersGuidethis is a embarrassment to the car business.
Definitely not a truck for the truck crowd. Would not want this myself.
I would love to get a bunch of truck owners together and have them drive this doing real, everyday tasks they would normally do in their truck. I don't mean towing at the max capacity or trying to haul everything in the world, I mean the everyday things that most trucks are actually used for. -Travis
@@AAutoBuyersGuide I haven't driven one, but I've already been up close. The high "bed" rail and lack of bumper steps are automatic dealbreakers. Anything up against the bulkhead cannot be reached without climbing in. That would be a daily pain for people who work.
There's a whole bunch of other points I'd have issues with, but even simple things are nonstarters.
If you're just ignore objective differences that matter when you're towing or hauling or using the thing as a "truck", then anything can qualify as a "truck". I mean, a Honda Accord is a "truck" now.
I think having an open bed is a pretty standard requirement to be considered a truck. -Travis
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Not all trucks have open beds. In fact, some don't even have beds at all. What even is a bed anyways? It's just the place where you put stuff. I can do that in a trunk.
Again, it just ignores what matters in reality.
I had a friend who carried 14 bales of hay on an exploding Pinto - was that a truck? No, it was a car being abused.
Cybertruck is awesome and highlights how Tesla is far ahead of traditional manufacturers in many areas; 800V main battery, 48V accessories, drive by wire, software, giga-castings, SS panels, etc., but also shows where Tesla fails; noise, vibration and harshness (NVH) because it does not have a steel truck frame with rubber isolation for the cab, and driving range is similar but definitely not better than the Lightning and Rivian. Tesla should make a "real truck" version where the body giga castings are revised to have rubber isolation pads on a frame with all suspension, motors, battery etc mounted to the frame (traditional skateboard). This is where the Lightning is so much better because its rubber cab isolation mounts provide a very smooth and quiet driving experience that's easy to live with every day. The Cybertruck has awesome tech, but is let down by the noisy-crashy driving experience with no range improvement over the competition.
I'll have to leave driving impressions aside till we get to test it out. -Travis
Most disgusting car ever made. Should be banned.
It will be in some countries but not because of its looks. -Travis
everyone is allowed their opinions...@@AAutoBuyersGuide
You have every right to your opinion and thank you for participating in the conversation, have a wonderful day Killcam!
What a stupid design. Terrible visibility. Poor usability (try lifting something into the bed from the side). Terrible ergonomics for the driver. Yuck.
Agreed. No cover for the rear. Blind spots with the poor visibility are my concerns. Insurance $$ will be interesting and also crash test ratings.
Try lifting anything into the bed of any full size truck that has bedrails around 5' off the ground these days.
I've got a truck and I can't think of the last time I tried to hoist something over the side of the bed. -Travis
@@steinwaymodelb That's not an excuse, that's just being fallacious. If regular trucks are bad, the Cybertruck is worse than that because the rails are integrated in to the roofline.
Besides, it's not just the height of the rails that's an issue, it's the ability to reach the floor of the bed.
I have a 4x4 3500 truck on oversized A/Ts, and I can still the reach the floor of my truck by just reaching over the rail. The rails are armpit height. In my smaller trucks, I actually have to bend down to reach the floor.
@@AkioWasRighttrue you can't reach over from side easily, but it also gives you big volume for securing your stuff with the tonneau
I've seen one in person and I still dont believe they exist
It's so unusual the brain just isn't expecting it nor sure how to process it. -Travis
Frankenstein
Haven't heard that one before. -Travis