How To Change Drum Brakes
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- In this video I'll show you how to install new drum brakes. From drum brake removal to installation. There are a lot of springs, levers, and such making this look more complicated than it is. Let me show you how I do it. Most car and automotive drum brakes will be slightly different but still very much the same premise.
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You are the best!!! I did my drum brakes for the first time last night. When ever I got stuck I looked at your video, and BAM not stuck anymore. Thank you a million times!
Olivia Payne no problem, thanks for watching!
Taking that axle out makes this video the clearest one for this job I have found. Thanks.
inkydoug sure, thanks for the sub!
@@bleepinjeepwhat if you pedal is not building pressure what does that mean
Wow, without the spring tools doing this video is a real accomplishment!! That's not easy. THANK YOU!!! I haven't done drum brakes in 35-years so this was a great refresher course,
BleepinJeep, Good job explaining, nice video, thank you. Last time I did drum breaks was in 90's when I had a Toyota Corolla. But now need to replace them on a 2011 Jeep Compass. They are a real pain.
I never changed drum brakes before on my Jeep Cherokee and watched your video twice and it was a piece of cake. Thanks. Now I have to watch your video on how to replace the wheel cylinder because mine is leaking.
it's been years since i did a drum brake job. You made a great video and it helped me alot. They still suck the way they used to. lol Thanks for taking time to make this!!!
Yeah they suck..North Idaho.
Glad to see I am not the only one to have such trouble with them.
Dude this vídeo was a real Life saver I spend almost 3 hrs trying to assemble mine after I saw the video it all just made sense thanks a lot and keep up the good work
take plenty of pics before next time it will save a bunch of hair
Matt
Thanks for the information, my 04 TJ wrangler rear passenger side blew a lower retaining spring and a cylinder while driving on our mountain roads, thank God for manual transmission for down shifts.
I usually take pictures before teardown, your cinematography really got us through a unappealing job.
I only cursed 5 times, I think.
Cheer brother.
It also helps to remove the other wheel and drum so you can have a look-see at what the tarnation is goin’ on in there. They did that before cell phones I’m thinkin’! Several 2004 TJ owners in this comment section...Love that rig!
Always buy the brake parts kit. As often the springs will fly off somewhere, and you'll never find it! Those special tools do make the job much easier... Also do one side at a time, so you can use the other side as a reference, if you can't remember how it goes back together! I am so looking forward to putting new shoes on my 02 Jeep Liberty. My luck, that 02 was the only year to use drum brakes... Thanks for posting
+metalmoto good tips!
I appreciate this video, you might wanna change your leaky cylinder though and flip that cylinder support bar right side up! Always use lube too, never go into a job dry! Good luck in space with yer fancy astronaut gear and whatnot
What about a disc break conversion video later down the line? Just a suggestion
cool explanation. I also have rear brake drums and everytime I go offroading on Mud, they get in pretty bad shape
I’ve never dealt with drum brakes before and this def helped . It looks easier without an axle in but I wasn’t about to pull mine just to see easier . But I just noticed the top separator fork thing was re installed upside down sir but maybe it doesn’t matter ? Either way I’ve always been a fan of your videos and appreciate the time you take to make them !
You the man !! My first drum brake job and this video helped immensely. And the one your working on is identical to mine. Well, except you did the wrong side lol. I started on the driver side first. Same thing though just in reverse. :-) 2004 wrangler here and your videos are, as always, super helpful. I also appreciate you did the job with regular hand tools, I did get the specialty tools, line wrench, brake pliers, and such. Less than 30 bucks at harbor fre ight. Made the job easier for sure.
Thanks for the vid! Just finished my rear shoe replacement. It wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be.
thewoodsman45 awesome, glad to hear it!
I don't know who this kid is in the video, but he did a great job! 😁
Oh brother, get yourselves a brake drum tool kit, they're cheap, you'll always have it and you will thank yourself after watching this show.
With a hook made from a coat hanger and a pair of vise-grips, those big springs on top can be pulled off/on relatively easy. Remove the retaining pins before prying the shoes to release the bar. Use never-seize sparingly on the adjuster threads.
Matt, the video was a big help when I did my wrangler. I did notice one thing beside the cross member being upside down. Take a look at the cable and the little triangular piece. In other videos it shows the cable going on after the retaining piece. Let me know your thoughts.
The triangle piece fits on the stud before the cable. Then the cable with the crimp side facing you. Flat side of cable ring against triangle piece.
just as I am old enough to have done a lot of these. when you finish putting everything back together, put the wheel back on and spin it while you are tightening the adjuster down. When the wheel locks, turn the aduster back to where the wheel is just free and your brakes are adjusted.
Dude you did a badass job!
This was a great video. Great lighting and great composition. It was easy to follow. The only thing that mixed me up was the parking brake. You didn’t address it and I did not put the parking brake “lever” through the shoe the first time. Luckily I caught it on the second one.
Love that I just took my 2004 jeep to the shop cause I didn’t have time to replace my brakes myself and they charged me $130 for rear rotors. Left a shock loose, and cross threaded a lug it leaving it halfway on. The rear brakes are drums.
Thank you so much for this. Never done drums before and this was a huge help
Great video! Drum brakes seem a little less evil now. A little....
I'd use vice grip pliers on the springs. Also I'd have cleaned it all off with brake clean or simple green and water before reassembly. Also, you should put high temp lithium grease, or anti seize on the backing plate where the brake shoes come in contact. And you should pull back on the rubber boot of the wheel cylinder to make sure it is dry. The boot is not a seal, just a cover. The real seal is behind the metal pistons.
+jewllake I use Vice-Grips too. Now that I am looking at drum brake videos, it looks like many people use the screwdriver, stretch method.
Was literally just looking for a drum video from bj, thanks man solved alota problems!
These are 9 inch brakes. From what I know they are on 8.25 Chrysler rear ends and 10 inch are on Dana 35's.
Hands down best drum brake video on the entire interwebs. Thanks a bunch!
You can get the top Springs off with a pair of pliers or vise grips and that gives you more control so they don't pop off in your eye but I like your videos keep doing what you're doing
thanx for your Videos ! But the smal cable is part of the self adjusting System, not the emergancy brake ;) To push down the small springs that hold the shoes in place I take a ring plier and for removing and installing the strong springs that push the shoes together I take a grip wrench(locking pliers) to be sure not to hurt myself ;)
The little cable pieces is part of the self-adjuster. Most likely they dont work anyway due to age. I always just threw it away and manually adjusted the brakes. Makes its much more simple.
Travis how is it simply to constantly adjust your brakes every few weeks rather than the car constantly adjusting for you?
Drum brakes are a huge pain in the neck. Thanks for the demo!
there's a part that goes horizontally just above the axle, between the shoes to hold them apart. I wanna call it a "spreader". At the beginning of the video, the spreader was set up so the hump was "UP"... at the end of the video when you put it back in, the hump was "down". Probably doesn't make any difference on a cosmic scale but Im just sayin. Watch the picture at 2:40 vs 11:40. Mysteriously finds its way wrong side up :) --- wow. I just noticed that by putting the time in the description, creates a link and takes you to that point in the video. Fucking fantastic!
great catch, and the screen shot is worth the second look at the whole assembly!!!
+Kathy Scott - your youtube is set to not enable replies... but you need to take out the bleeder and clean it or replace it.
great video! enjoy watching all you video's, very helpful.
Thanks Bleepin' your videos are always helpful (even though you put the park brake strut back upside down - lol).
Ever have this situation ? new shoes , new hardware kit , new adjuster kit and new drums , adjusters all the way in , drums won't go on , back to the parts store to check if parts are correct and they are , compare new parts to old parts and there correct , had to belt sand high spots off new shoes in order to slide on new drums , fist time I'v had to do that , third time replacing these brake on my jeep I'v owned for the last 17 years , 1999 Wrangler Sahara . thanks . Mike .
P.S. 3. Clean the 3 hard points that the backing plate has that the shoes rest on and LUBRICATE THEM. 4. Lubricate the STAR adjuster. Otherwise your brakes won't set right.
LOL hopefully for 10 years people haven't been re-installing the forked bar with the spring upside down! So at 4:46 is pre tear down, and from 11:45 to the end is re-installation state. Not sure if it effects functionality. So how did it work upside down?
If you were my apprentice I'd skid you down the road in a heartbeat. A perfect lesson on how NOT to service drum brakes. Looks like misinformation is the order of the day.
The e brake lever wasn't a part of this video. I had to take it all of to put it behind the bar and pad.
Life saver bro!!! Thanks for the great video.
Glazed right over the ebreak bracket part.
Thank you, your video was exactly what I needed.
Matt at bleepin jeep with the zombie jeep, I got an 89 cherokee pioneer with drums on the rear and was looking to see if there was a way to replace it with disc and if so the pros and cons. Can you help me out?
did the drum brakes fine with your video.. however apon bleeding my right front passenger is now leaking and for the life of us we cannot get it to tighten to stop. I'm ready to cry because I have no more funds to pay for a fix. can u help?
Very good. What about lubrication in there?
Thanks papi for the video
As a truck mechanic I’ve never done hydraulic drum brakes. But I’ve done air drum brakes many times, the difference is they have an S-cam that actuates the pads. For dealing with the springs I made my own tool. Got a pry bar and cut a wedge in the middle, very good at gripping the spring.
Would you recommend replacing the cylinder?
Great video. I have done the drum brakes on my Cherokee many times and have always hated drum brakes. Can't understand why car manufacturers used them after discs were created. Should have been a gov mandate to make all vehicles with discs. Anyone who knows about vehicles would gladly pay a lil extra for a vehicle with discs.
good job,this video help me yo moch.thnsk very moch.
Great video! Thanks for posting this.
2018 and still helped me 👌👌👍👍
ok heres whats happenin with mine... the small plate that stops the adjustment wheel from rotating backwards... its not working. I even bought a KIT with a new wheel and plate but for some reason the plate does not want to hold tight against the adjustment wheel, hence the shoes never extend out to where there supposed to be. The good news is that I never need rear brakes because they never contact the drums... the bad news, is I have to stop a week ahead of time. Any Bleepin suggestions? thanks.
Good walkthrough, but where do I find the drake brums. 😄
Great video. Keep up the good work.
That adjuster cable should sit directly under the springs, order should be brake shoes, shoe guide plate, adjuster cable, right return spring, left return spring.
thanks.. you are the best 👍👍
The new shoes I bought from autozone did not have the pin that holes the brake adjusting plate and spring on at the bottom left. It appears that the small pin needs to be pressed in by the mechanic. And apparently the pin is what failed, allowing for the adjusting plate to fall off and land in the bottom of the drum which scored it up.. Planned obsolescence or idiocy?
Sometimes to remove the shoe retainer springs you can put a little pressure on them and just turn it by hand, and for reassembly, it's easier to grip the slotted washer with a pair of channel locks, as you can turn the retainer more easily. And for the return springs, you really should be using a brake tool. You're prone to bending the shit out of them by prying them off with a screw driver.
And lastly, you did not lubricate any contact points on the backing plate, nor metal-on-metal contact points on the parts, and most importantly, you didn't refresh the grease in the star adjuster.
Hey I have an 89 Jeep comanche and I need to replace the entire emergency breaking system but idk all the parts for it could you help me out
If the Brake Lines are contaminated and you need to flush them what is the best way to do it? flushing them with Water, gasoline, diesel other??
I don't see a lot on the internet about ZJ rear disks to XJ conversions. It seems like its worth it. Not so complicated.
Ahh. Thanks for the info !
I guess im just looking for an upgrade with disk brakes. I wish there was a cross reference guide for jeeps with good information about it.
Is it possible to do this video for a Jeep Liberty 2002 limited ? I looked at the chilton repair guide and the illustration of the rear brakes dont look like they do in real life i took my brake drum off and they dont look like the books picture
ya, I noticed that when editing the video... dammit!
BleepinJeep 😂😂😂
Very helpful thanks a lot bud
How hard is to access the four bolts keeping the drum on the axle with the axle actually being there? I'm changing my drums for another pair and it seems easy enough in this video, but I'd rather not take the axle out.
bleepinjeep Sorry, I meant axle and axle shaft. In this video we can see the four bolts that keep the drum attached to the axle (around the axle hole) but that's because the axle shaft is not there. Can the whole drum be taken out with the shaft installed? Thanks!
What year is that cherokee, i need those exact pads or parts number please, thank you
Looks like the left cylinder is leaking. Also the cross bracket is upside down. I attach everything first then put springs on.
Can someone please help, why does my brakes lock up and go into a skid when I step on the brakes on an emergency situation
very good video!
thanks bro! you are the best!
10:34 YOU PLACED THE RETAINING CLIP BACK ON IMPROPERLY.
AND YOU DIDN'T FLIP THE BAR BACK TO THE CORRECT POSITION. 12:26
Hi , how it´s going buddy ,
sometimes ,jeep´s rear brake lock , do you know about it ?
After I seen the screwdriver taking those springs off, that what is....What a F*CKING joke lol
What is that toothed gear on some models of the rear axle shaft? It looks like a sensor points to it unless there is more to it and part is broken off?
I believe you are talking about the abs antilock brake system.
if they had a large head, or a Knob on the back of the "Hold-Down Pin", it would be easy just to turn the Pin from the rear, while you're pushing in on the damn Freakin retainer Springs. Why hasn't someone come up with a better design, or an aftermarket one. I hate Rear Brake Drum brakes..
Great video. Have you done a disk brake conversion?
yes, several, just search "bleepinjeep disk brake" ruclips.net/user/results?search_query=bleepinjeep+disk+brake
if you remove the round springs that are on the pin mid way down the brake shoe, the shoes will just fold over and the rest will just fall apart.
also those round springs midway, push them in, then turn the pin from the back side. easier to turn them than the spring while it has tension.
Is this the left or right side
Passenger Side
Man I got a Chevy dude and you crack me the f****** dude
Hey what year is this Jeep? I am trying to fix a problem with my axle shaft after I got into an accident (doing a break job while I'm at it)
+Nate Woodard 90
Looked to me like the wheel cylinder was weeping on the left side. Should have been replaced.
But good video very through.
That cable IS NOT for the emergency brake at 5:50 mark. It is for the self adjuster that is what it is for ! he calls it emergency brake piece again at 13:10 again, But it is your self adjusting cable. And you should always put new shoes on, As you have it apart now. Way do it again. Change them now and save your time for something else...
You never showed how to take the drum off. I've got my wheel off and jeep is on stands, but I can't get the hub or drum or whatever it is off to access the brake components ...
bleepinjeep ^^This. Also if it's seized up, might want to hit it with some heat from a blow torch for just a few seconds to get the heat to expand. Had to do that when my rotors seized on to my BMW when I changed them
Beat it off. The drum off... Not yourself
Before whacking the drum (They're cast, they can break), make sure the brake adjuster is backed off enough so your shoes aren't pressing against the drum. There's a little slot on the bottom of the backing plate where you can insert a brake spoon which allows you to turn the star adjuster and back off the brakes.
looks pretty similar to a ford ranger
You put flat bar with spring on upside down
No one notice that he put bar under wheel cylinder upside down..really
Mike White good eye balls and looking out bro. thanks
It doesn't matter whether it's upside down or right side up, the only thing that matters with this bar (actually called the parking brake strut) is that the fork on one side (the side without the spring) is wider than the other in order to fit over both the shoe body & the parking brake actuating lever.
I think the piece has the bump-out facing up by design to help support the wheel cylinder. If so, then it would seem to matter.
yes he sure did
does it matter what side long shoes go on my 1999 jeep cherokee sport rear brakes as well as short shoes. does shrt shoes face front for example? thanx
short side is always to the front its got somthing to do with balencing the pressure on the drums im not an engineer just a pavement greaser
Remove tension pins first the rest will remove easier
Did anyone notice that he put the bar under the cylinder upsidedown?
Thanks, NASA!
That's quite the disclaimer matt.... lol
Are you kidding me??? Taking the springs off like that??? Get the proper tools, for heaven's sake!
You are right.
There are specific tools for the job but this more for people who are not professional and dont want to invest in a tool they will use once.
It can be done with non specific tools...just bit harder.
You put the "This Piece" in up-side-down...
That crossmember is orientated incorrectly. The middle part of it is supposed to be up, not down. If you look at the picture you took, it shows it that way.
Cool