For those of you thinking I am dogging on Milo. Absolutely not! I think milo does maybe the best videos in the zombies community. That however doesn't mean I can't come in with my own opinion on the event's. If you want your community to grow don't say people shouldn't give there opinion unless they have played since day 1. However hey, that is just my opinion
I think you misunderstood a lot of what milo was saying, and were missing context to some of his points. Causing you to maybe get some things wrong. I don’t think it’s your fault, but I do think you were being hard on him while not knowing the full scope of what he’s done and experienced.
@@inkslashertv Milo’s video was definitely a “capitalize on the liberty falls hate” because like you said he contradicted himself by saying he didn’t put out a video for terminus because he felt like there wasn’t much to talk about and felt he didn’t get enough time to play it but making an hour long video about a map he didn’t play is extremely disingenuous
Ink I hope you know Milo wasn’t reviewing the map. Your statement about him contradicting himself because he didn’t review terminus because he didn’t play enough but doing this for liberty when he hadn’t played it. He was simply going over thoughts and concerns within the community. People who have played zombies before are concerned because we don’t want another failure.
He has to play it. It’s basically his job you know that right ? Whether he likes it or not. And he’s also one of if not the top zombies creator out there.
@@castro0735 lol his job is to make money on video it's RUclips not zombie tube. Pizza and JD are way better at zombies. Milo only plays to make a guide and the best way to get views is to be negative. It's what we do as humans we see the negative before the good. It's a smart business move that's all.
You have no clue how important he is to the zombies community and how much he’s right about most of what he’s talking about he’s definitely the most passionate zombies RUclipsr.
I like when slasher reacts to his videos because it’s a newer zombies player giving his thoughts / comparing how they feel about the mode compared to a Day one OG zombies RUclipsr. It very vividly paints the picture of both sides of the spectrum. Milo is def hitting the nail on the head with these takes. The marketing has just been misleading when it comes to zombies, was really looking forward to liberty balls but it just ended up being a huge let down.
Ok jus because he’s important to the zombies community doesnt mean his word is law specially when he himself said his opinions and views changed flight is very important in the 2k community that doesn’t mean he can’t be wrong and you act like he’s the only one who’s been playing cod when ive playing the games since before his channel any and everyone can be judged or wrong these people aren’t gods
Ur watching his video without any idea of zombies origin. Thats why u cant relate to his points. I bet u started playing zombies after cold war. This guy played zombies since world at war. So expectations are different.
I agree. Most of his reaction to the video was his view as someone who played after Cold War. I wasn’t sure when he said in his head bonus map sounds dumb when legit we have had bonus maps.
Waw was the don of the zombies franchise. Nothing comes close to the eerie atmosphere it has, as a kid completely the campaign and seeing the zombies I thought to be soldiers running down the field past the burning plane. Waw-bo2 was top tier, hell even bo3 was good. Those days are sadly over and tho I’m not a fan of Cold War zombies, I will say I hope since Treyarch actually had time and this is originally their game and not a last minute project like Cold War was that it actually is better than Cold War and bo4
This dude clearly doesnt know much about zombies, a first time player playing for the first time shouldnt be able to get to round 20 let alone 50 like duke dennis did🤣 dude was calling the rounds levels🤦♂️their spitting in our faces at this point.
Love that you’re reacting to this and sharing your thoughts. May not seem like much but in the end, zombies or multiplayer, we’re playing the same game and supporting each other makes our community stronger.
Ink, it used to be 5 hits with Juggernog to die, and the Shield was there to slow it down. But that is too late when you are driven into a corner. Then it becomes really difficult to escape fate and you’ll sometimes get downed. Or the shield will help you throw a monkey bomb or let you have time to grab your wonder weapon. But the shield will break really fast.
9:46 I think this comment you’re making is very disingenuous. Some people kept playing and even got to round 50, so we had hours worth of gameplay. This video isn’t just liberty balls, as he had already mentioned BO6 zombies as a whole for a few points. Compounding with this being a smaller map, his experience with Terminus, and how much we can guess the map actually has to offer compared to previous experiences, it was very disappointing and I feel he is being quite accurate. Especially with use getting baited by the amazing intro cutscene. I’ll finish the video, but I’m pretty sure what I said won’t change.
Based on what a lot of ink plays “had” to stop the video n counteract what Milo is saying shows or gives me like he is a “noob” zombies player or just started out in which case he would so right off the bat protect liberty “balls” so much and so quickly because he is the new player base coming in and the casual player that the map seems to be designed for in which case different understandings coming from og zombie slayers with Milo community to ink plays or his play style alone
Lowekey ink taking Ls with the arguments because even if he can explain the reasons why like the health topic, still doesn’t change the fact that zombies NEVER needed this. Zombies NEVER needed any of plates or the loadouts. Zero point to all of it. BO3 had it just perfect
37:34 We don’t need Armor. We used to look for 3 different Shield Parts, collect them and Build a Shield that could endure around 15 hits on the back. Did the shield break, shit… but that is no ending just grab a new one.
This isn’t a review of liberty falls. He’s literally talking about the communities reaction after seeing the map compared to what treyarch said about the map before footage was released
I’m fine with a casual map, but I just don’t vibe with the white sunlight, reminds me of Attack of the radioactive thing from IW, if they gave it a different color like an orange sinces its morning, I would like it more
Bro not understanding him about the review comes off as completely disingenuous his video with the white board is more of a breakdown not a review he's talking about the zombies communities expectations and why the map feels like a let down
43:29 I don’t agree, Milo literally says it for you Treyarch said and promised us they would lean more into the Classic Style of Zombies they would go more back to the original Formula. And after saying that, they reveal that it’s just gonna be CW 2.0 and that is not leaning in to the old formula. Instead it’s 80 dollars for something roughly 5 million people DON’T want at all.
My take on liberty falls is that it isn’t bad from what we know. It’s definitely a bonus map. Yes, it has a bad aura, but it’s also the first bonus map to include a legit Easter egg. And the gameplay is meant for noobs so I really like how they’ve dealt with this map besides the look of it obviously. It’s not just meant for noobs. It’s also meant for the fans, if not more so. This is easily the third best launch in all of zombies, if not second place. I doubt it’ll beat the bo3 launch, but it has a really solid chance to beat bo1’s launch.
Inkslasher, you might want to learn or experience the old cod zombies. And talk about those stories and lore. Ask Milo(Rolflewaffles) to help you elaborate.
@@jetfunnybunny5759or maybe people can criticise the lazy attempt at trying to get warzone players into zombies and people pointing that out is actually a good thing instead of being a consumer sheep and accepting anything a billionaire dollar corp does.
@@jetfunnybunny5759 you do realise the main draw of zombies is the fact that it’s different from warzone right? you’re not acting dense on purpose are you?
Saying hes being disingenuous is weird no? Isn't giving a "review" after 40 mins of gameplay completely different from dissecting the discussion around a hot topic. Like aren't they not even remotely the same thing?
@@inkslashertv He said He didn’t feel like 40 minutes was enough time to make a review of the map, which is fine but It is kinda weird he hasn’t even made a video discussing it. Maybe he’s just really been that busy. Do you think Treyarch could’ve told him you can’t tell people about certain features? Maybe that plays into it. Idk, just looking for reasons to believe in Terminus
Saying liberty falls unique draw is a "suburban town in the 90's"... Cmon bro, a lot of the intro to this video is you just saying shit just to say shit without critical thought. He's talking about maps original unique draws and you really say "you could say the same about liberty falls... suburban town" Seriously bro Im lost for words.
SCREW ARMOR IS ZOMBIES. its a crutch for casual players. armor makes it 10 to 14 hit down. before with jugg it was half or less. and just feels so annoying when youre trying to do other stuff to have to constantly armor up. they should scrap the armor system, the ammo resupply boxes, and the weapon loadouts and a lot of people would be just fine with what they saw on Liberty Falls. those are the 3 biggest flaws of new modern zombies.
They should also take out load outs,zombies was a lot more fun when we started with a pistol. When you spawn in with the weapon you want then what's the point of wall buy's or the mystery box
I agree it was a bad marketing having liberty falls at cod next but I also see why they done it because it is the more casual map and most people playing it was multiplayer and warzone people
32:37 I think it’s absolutely fair to say that a multiplayer map looks like it could be a zombies map. He’s not saying the style is exclusive to zombies, but it’s more prevalent in this multiplayer map than it is in recent zombies maps.
the unique draw of lib for me is "what happened in '91 to this town for cars to be destroyed barricades to be setup n for there to be zombies" it's the mystery of the daylight suburban town also love the open space i love having time to breathe n go get perks or smth that's y i love forsaken sm the main part of the map is very very open edit: i think not having to turn on power makes sense it's a town it should still have electricity unlike forsaken which was literally a walled off city plus lib being in the DAY makes the map a lot more comfortable hell die maschine was a DAY map n nobody hated on it but now we have a town map at DAY TIME n ppl hate it i don't get it also zombies needs armor to allow for ppl to save their asses when they're getting swarmed n not die instantly once they're swarmed
38:31 my head canon is that because the riot shield can be brought in, and it’s a load out, it wouldn’t make sense to make a build able shield if the riot shield would be just as effective just without the rocket ability
This is really surreal for me to watch lol. I am a huge zombies player and mostly care about cod for treyarchs zombies but ink is also the only multiplayer RUclipsr I watch. I think the main takeaway for me is that as a person that literally has to wait 3-4 years for the thing I care about cod for to come out, shouldn’t be pandering to people that have never been into zombies. I get the other side of multiplayer/ warzone players that they want to get playing the mode but fr sucks so much that they made such a unique mode in gaming that they basically have a monopoly on, is also tied to call of duty. I’m so torn between both sides but why couldn’t they have just split off and made zombies a separate game 😭
Guys what if we are wrong and that's the point..and it gets blown up during the ee and this is essentially the perspective of Transit becoming blown up with in this universe.
It’s actually not good. The thing that was special about call of duty. It had 3 separate mode and the 3 modes was different so it’s like you’re getting 3 different games game in one multiplayer they had zombie oh they had story mode and later on they all so got Warzone. And that was different as well.
1: I highly doubt the EE is gonna change anything tbh unless there are massive parts of this map that haven't been seen etc. 2: I'm sorry treyarch is pushing this game as if they are taking zombies back to the classic zombies feel and the way things should be and were when COD zombies was at its peak like the BO2/BO3 days and the execs etc all know what the community wanted when they said they wanted round based zombies back the community has complained for years, they knew most of the community was against the dumb shit like the armor etc and all the other warzone trash they put in cold war because it was mentioned countless times.
@@jetfunnybunny5759milo proposed both the negative and positive sides of the argument. He then said he thinks it’s much too early to decide and that everyone should hold judgment. If you’re referring to the comment you replied to. That’s clearly just a joke bro.
I hope they did the PAP quest and froze all progression and then rerendered all the assests to normal liberty falls so when this map does release its a totally diffrent game
The concept of bonus maps are something that have been in zombies since bo1 and it's pretty much the secondary map that releases on launch to give players an option for mostly just survival gameplay and nothing complicated. Bo1 - kino bo2- Nuketown zombies bo3 - the giant bo4 - classified CW - onslaught. Bo5 - liberty falls
20:58 HAVE YOU PLAYED ZOMBIES??? Shangri-la, Die Maschine, FirebaseZ, Moon spawn area, Kino der Toten, Buried, Die Rise, Verruckt. I’m so done with this video it’s really pissed me off don’t ever cover Zombies without actual years of knowledge again holy!!
@@jetfunnybunny5759 elaborate? Because as far as I’ve seen that’s true. Ever since black ops 3 it’s been “this is aliens! Not zombies!” “What are they thinking putting dragons in zombies? Did a 5 year old make the creative decisions?” “Man these Easter eggs are too complex! And the pick 4 perk system is ass!” “I hate spawning with a load out and these Easter eggs are way too easy!” I’m not saying I don’t agree with a lot of this stuff but year after year we keep screaming to bring it back to black ops 1,2 and 3 style and they won’t listen
Ink, I appreciate you trying to get some zombies content in there. But I think you misunderstood some of this video and don’t quite understand some things.
After playing DMZ and MWZ, I really like the open world feel. BO6 isn't terrible, as a matter of fact I'd say its the most CoD of CoD games I've played since 2019. Round Base Zombies and standard MP modes may not be enough to pull me into playing. I'll play the beta again this weekend. I'm not sure if Zombies will be available to test.
I would argue many of the implementations into zombies was coming from activision themselves. Trying to get the player base to play all of the modes. Calling the devs talentless is wild to me. Many of the devs that work on the zombies you know and love, are working on zombies now.
@Twistedslop62 Jimmy Zielinski is well gone. The lead devs who're calling the shots now are ruining the mode. It wouldn't be that difficult to implement a classic mode, not alienate the playerbase who put zombies on the map. Even if the higher-ups are telling them to implement warzone mechanics, there is no excuse for the artists not making the game look aesthetically pleasing. Do we really need bright maps, ugly pack-a-punch colours? 87% of male gamers play shooters, so why are they putting girly things in the mode like pink PAP camo's? The art design team haven't got a clue. Understand the roots of zombies, your demographic of players and cater to the majority.
Rather than make it to where the zombies have to fully destroy your armor then take your health AKA just adding additional health it should make it to where after a zombie hits you after a certain amount of times and then it will deplete your health Aka Hit 3 times then it will take your health per zombie If a zombie hasnt hit you that third time it's taking from your armor. And armor is not a plate per hit , make it relative hits in total per plate.
I don't think liberty falls looks that bad Can't wait to try it out People. Shouldn't be judging if they haven't played it You don't judge just by watching it on youtube I only judge stuff When I actually play it Clearly people don't use their heat
I love Mrrofflewaffles but imo Treyarch didn’t inflate the expectations of Liberty Falls, the community did. Treyarch has been very clear that this map is nowhere near the same level as Terminus Island, and yet, the RUclipsrs and community have blown their own expectations out of proportions, all bc the map was foreshadowed in Cold War and MWZ
they told creators things in private at Treyarch knowing they would relay it back to there communities and they know that. its indirect marketing at the very least no?
1:16:00 I really don't see a world in which this is a masterful marketing decision. Setting people's expectations low so you can blow them away is a strategy you can use, but you have to be super careful about how you do it. Because to give yourself the best chance at success, you want to set their expectations low *without making them mad*. If someone simply isn't expecting much, you can hand someone something that's just pretty good but not outstanding and it'll still feel like a massive step up. If you do the same thing to someone who is expecting to hate what you hand them and be disappointed by it, you now have to overcome this extra barrier of uncharitability. It looks to me like Treyarch have, perhaps on purpose but more likely unwittingly, backed themselves into a corner where they NEED to knock Liberty Falls out of the park in order to make people eat their words. If it's just ok, people will still be mad.
While I enjoy playing BO3 custom maps, I also really enjoy Cold War and MWZ. I preOrdered BO6 for Zombies. As long as it’s not Vanguard, I will be happy. I like the armor and loadouts. it annoys me that I start with the pistol in B03. Seems llike I have a take opposite from the “serious” players
What a reaction content Yoink... literally half the disagreements were just to not nod along!😞 DarkViperAU (Mat) makes such sound observations about reaction content!🤷♂️
I don't think this would be considered a review maybe that's just me seems more like a community based deep dive rather than a map review the difference to me being like hey the community is saying this based off this how accurate is it vs these are my personal thoughts on this exact thing
I think Ink should do more zombies reaction to allow a different point of view then the rest of the zombies community. He is more of the greater Call of duty community looking into the zombies mode and having a different opinion on zombies. You don't want everyone to be one hive mind that just copys everyone else.
@12:00 I NEVER hated tranzit and imma go as far as to say the entire green run. And I find it odd or interesting that for the same reason Milo says hardcore people hated it, is the very reason I did and still do as a hardcore think bo2 zombies including green run is my favorite zombies. The fog, the lava, the dark brown color pallet added onto the “isolation” factor that is missing in modern cod zombies. Regardless of if you wanted to see what was out there and liked the fog or not, it intentionally or unintentionally added to the post apocalyptic world vibe and made it all come together. Me personally, idc who you are, a casual or a fellow “hardcore”….if you hate green run you’re just a hater. Try and tell me green run wasn’t the most horror, thriller, dark both literally and figuratively, zombie apocalyptic zombies we’ve had I’ll gladly be the one to tell you you’re lying yo ass off and you only fooling yoself. Bo2 zombies was the only cod zombies to have me scared shitless to play at night by myself and I’m not alone on that cuz damn near if not everyone who played the game agrees. So I disagree with tranzit being the worst map, I say yall just haters and are outta yall mind. The map features may not have been the best, but the map itself was the best zombie map visually imo
Why ppl all complaining abt oh yo don’t know zombies lore but everyone entitled to opinion no matter what like it’s weird like they aren’t changing from what Cold War introduced you gotta get used to the fact that armour platting ect is the new normal I think it’s good having a none zombies focussed RUclipsr to discuss their opinions on the game who doesn’t know the lore so we can get different reactions and ideas on separate side
Ink seems to be very critical of milo but not understanding the full context of what Milo is saying. He’s also been talking about treyarch zombies as a whole and getting things incorrect. It would be beneficial if he played zombies at the very least.
I will remove any negative thoughts I’ve had if they come through with this so called leaked classic mode that will bring back all the old systems. But I don’t think that will happen but if they do I’ll love this game
Transit is better than Every Zombies map since Ancient Evil. That is a very very very very very very very very very very very very low bar. Haven’t played since Fire Base Z, Cold War Zombies is just awful. It’s so mind numbingly easy, theres no cool maps or anything I point to that I enjoy
There was so many amazing maps back then I remember I used to be scared of zombies 😂 it was even hard for me to get eggs done but I wouldn’t have traded it for the moon. Maps now are so easy all you have to do is turn off your brain. They even hold your hand… I just wish they had that creativity they used to have. Imagine we would of got the Great War map
5:42 “I can see how they are saying Liberty Falls would be more difficult cause it’s smaller less room to move” I don’t think you played the same map 💀 Liberty Balls is as open as a outbreak map and honestly “cause I got stuck in a bank vault” that’s just a skill issue dude 💀
In storytelling there is a phrase show don’t tell and Treyarch should of followed this Show the cool things or leave them a surprise just telling us all this good stuff will be there isn’t enough
@13:00 oh now we just saying shit. Who liked Cold War zombies when it dropped? Not the community. If you think the community like Cold War zombies when it dropped then one day just decided otherwise, you was not in the cod community during Cold War. THAT GAME’S ZOMBIES GOT SLANDERED what are we talkin about “people liked it when it dropped”?? The first map maybe cuz it’s technically a legacy map, but the mode itself got DRAGGED THROUGH THE MUD by the community
The OG Zombies community is full of hypocrites and will always be 😂 if they were in charge it’d take more than a decade for a single map for a mediocre game
@31:45 I disagree with the point Milo is making here cuz I argue the bo3 one 1000000000000% looks like zombies. See what Milo and the person who posted these is doing is ignoring the entire picture (which is what matter) and focusing on the item in front of said character. The issue with the bo6 one isn’t the gobblegum machine, like I said it’s the whole picture, ignoring the fact that we know that’s a zombie map, looking at the surroundings and ignoring the gobblegum machine….that looks like it’d be safe to assume they’re playing either warzone, campaign, or multiplayer. Vs looking at the bo3 one, ignoring the item in the picture and focusing on THE WHOLE PICTURE (the “bigger picture” if you will) looking at the surrounding of that fly thing….imma be blunt, you’d be a dumbass to assume that’s any other map than zombies, that bo3 one LOOKS LIKE ZOMBIES, say otherwise and you’re lying and trying too hard to be different. Now let’s look back at the bo6 one (again ignoring the fact that we know it’s a zombies map, let’s say we was clueless), looking at the picture NOTHING but the gobblegum indicates that’s a screenshot from the zombies game mode, the map doesn’t, you have a literal hardpoint icon on the screen, you have a minimap, and the same exact hud as warzone, oh and scorestreaks. Now looking back at the bo3 one, again ignoring the fact that we know it’s zombies, there’s no hud in the bo3 picture but to make it equal pretend there is, we all know what it looks like, and suddenly that ENTIRE bo3 screenshot screams zombies, if you was to look at that same bo3 screenshot with the bug and it had the hud uncovered….you would know without treyarch having to tell you, that’s a zombie map. THATS THE PROBLEM. Im tired of RUclipsrs nitpicking one thing to defend when ITS THE BIGGER PICTURE THAT MATTERS. The gobblegum and fly thing are irrelevant, it’s THE WHOLE PICTURE yall cant be selective and willingly ignorant like that. Thats why nothing is changing and the community is still in an uproar
Like I've said on other videos dogging this map.... It was a beta version and nobody has experienced the whole thing. Y'all weird for dogging something you haven't even experienced
Don’t need to play it to know I’m not going to enjoy it due to the terrible new game systems. Armor is crap, point system crap, haveing kills streaks crap and load out system crap all these things ruin what made actual zombie fans, fans in the first place.
51:11 For real, dawg. Had he been invited to the event, his opnion would be soooooo different. He praised Blood of the Dead when he played it for the first time with Jason Blundell, and he acted like the map was gonna be one of the best ever. Then when it was all said and done, he and the rest of the community hated the map a month later. It's so hypocritical.
@skully5063 You're missing the point. Milo states in his video that the reason he wasn't willing to do a Terminus review was because he hadn't played the map enough to give a review. But he hasn't played Liberty Falls at all, yet he's basically already written it off. Watch the entire video and try to understand my comment before trying to be sarcastic.
Honestly I don’t think it would. He has always said what he thinks. I remember him being very clear about the way he felt about revelations during bo3. And that was when he had a good relationship with treyarch.
Yeah, you all want your way but you’re not looking at what other people want to maybe we want big Mabs that are round based quit being a one little baby
For those of you thinking I am dogging on Milo. Absolutely not! I think milo does maybe the best videos in the zombies community. That however doesn't mean I can't come in with my own opinion on the event's. If you want your community to grow don't say people shouldn't give there opinion unless they have played since day 1. However hey, that is just my opinion
Respect dude
Community is massive they just haven't had a new game in 10 years.
amen
I think you misunderstood a lot of what milo was saying, and were missing context to some of his points. Causing you to maybe get some things wrong. I don’t think it’s your fault, but I do think you were being hard on him while not knowing the full scope of what he’s done and experienced.
@@inkslashertv Milo’s video was definitely a “capitalize on the liberty falls hate” because like you said he contradicted himself by saying he didn’t put out a video for terminus because he felt like there wasn’t much to talk about and felt he didn’t get enough time to play it but making an hour long video about a map he didn’t play is extremely disingenuous
Ink I hope you know Milo wasn’t reviewing the map. Your statement about him contradicting himself because he didn’t review terminus because he didn’t play enough but doing this for liberty when he hadn’t played it. He was simply going over thoughts and concerns within the community. People who have played zombies before are concerned because we don’t want another failure.
Milo is just getting views on the back of the haters. He is still going to play the game if he believes it's that bad he wouldn't play it
He has to play it. It’s basically his job you know that right ? Whether he likes it or not. And he’s also one of if not the top zombies creator out there.
@@castro0735 lol his job is to make money on video it's RUclips not zombie tube. Pizza and JD are way better at zombies. Milo only plays to make a guide and the best way to get views is to be negative. It's what we do as humans we see the negative before the good. It's a smart business move that's all.
You have no clue how important he is to the zombies community and how much he’s right about most of what he’s talking about he’s definitely the most passionate zombies RUclipsr.
I like when slasher reacts to his videos because it’s a newer zombies player giving his thoughts / comparing how they feel about the mode compared to a Day one OG zombies RUclipsr. It very vividly paints the picture of both sides of the spectrum. Milo is def hitting the nail on the head with these takes. The marketing has just been misleading when it comes to zombies, was really looking forward to liberty balls but it just ended up being a huge let down.
Ok jus because he’s important to the zombies community doesnt mean his word is law specially when he himself said his opinions and views changed flight is very important in the 2k community that doesn’t mean he can’t be wrong and you act like he’s the only one who’s been playing cod when ive playing the games since before his channel any and everyone can be judged or wrong these people aren’t gods
He doesn’t mention him visiting Liberty Falls because Milo’s lore for that adventure they “wiped his memory” so he “doesn’t remember” that side quest.
That's a little cringe tho lmao
Ur watching his video without any idea of zombies origin. Thats why u cant relate to his points. I bet u started playing zombies after cold war. This guy played zombies since world at war. So expectations are different.
This is the comment I was looking for...
This right here.
I agree. Most of his reaction to the video was his view as someone who played after Cold War. I wasn’t sure when he said in his head bonus map sounds dumb when legit we have had bonus maps.
Waw was the don of the zombies franchise. Nothing comes close to the eerie atmosphere it has, as a kid completely the campaign and seeing the zombies I thought to be soldiers running down the field past the burning plane. Waw-bo2 was top tier, hell even bo3 was good. Those days are sadly over and tho I’m not a fan of Cold War zombies, I will say I hope since Treyarch actually had time and this is originally their game and not a last minute project like Cold War was that it actually is better than Cold War and bo4
The fact he was disagreeing about Liberty Falls being an open map shows when he started playing a Zombies 😂
Multiplayer-WZ COD fan criticizing a true zombies fan
This dude clearly doesnt know much about zombies, a first time player playing for the first time shouldnt be able to get to round 20 let alone 50 like duke dennis did🤣 dude was calling the rounds levels🤦♂️their spitting in our faces at this point.
Do not ever cover zombies ever again
Facts
@@SpideyShelf the Milo fans base is really toxic. He is just giving his opinion just like Milo in his video
Liberty Uninstalls
Love that you’re reacting to this and sharing your thoughts.
May not seem like much but in the end, zombies or multiplayer, we’re playing the same game and supporting each other makes our community stronger.
calling him disingenuous is hilarious, You’re a warzone and story mode lore guy, you wouldn’t get it
Inkslasher you should podcast with Milo Mr RoflWaffles ! He is a cool guy !
Ink, it used to be 5 hits with Juggernog to die, and the Shield was there to slow it down. But that is too late when you are driven into a corner. Then it becomes really difficult to escape fate and you’ll sometimes get downed.
Or the shield will help you throw a monkey bomb or let you have time to grab your wonder weapon.
But the shield will break really fast.
I want to get stoned with Milo and talk about the Dark Aether…
This would keep me entertained for atleast 6 hours😭😂
Would be such a good time 🔥
9:46 I think this comment you’re making is very disingenuous. Some people kept playing and even got to round 50, so we had hours worth of gameplay. This video isn’t just liberty balls, as he had already mentioned BO6 zombies as a whole for a few points. Compounding with this being a smaller map, his experience with Terminus, and how much we can guess the map actually has to offer compared to previous experiences, it was very disappointing and I feel he is being quite accurate. Especially with use getting baited by the amazing intro cutscene. I’ll finish the video, but I’m pretty sure what I said won’t change.
Yeah, this comment ink made seemed very rude to me. I must admit.
Based on what a lot of ink plays “had” to stop the video n counteract what Milo is saying shows or gives me like he is a “noob” zombies player or just started out in which case he would so right off the bat protect liberty “balls” so much and so quickly because he is the new player base coming in and the casual player that the map seems to be designed for in which case different understandings coming from og zombie slayers with Milo community to ink plays or his play style alone
Lowekey ink taking Ls with the arguments because even if he can explain the reasons why like the health topic, still doesn’t change the fact that zombies NEVER needed this. Zombies NEVER needed any of plates or the loadouts. Zero point to all of it. BO3 had it just perfect
So BO3 had no flaws at all? That’s a bit of a reach.
@@jetfunnybunny5759people have favourites, just because they liked it doesn’t mean it’s flawless….
@@C2190 you said perfect. Perfect is a synonym for flawless.
@@jetfunnybunny5759 honestly I couldn’t tell you what was wrong, but you probably nitpick everything and started zombies on Cold War
@@TTV_Alkemmii based on what exactly?
37:34 We don’t need Armor.
We used to look for 3 different Shield Parts, collect them and Build a Shield that could endure around 15 hits on the back.
Did the shield break, shit… but that is no ending just grab a new one.
You should do a convo with Mrroflwaffles and ask him these questions and maybe get a better insight of where he and some people are comimg from.
yes this would be amazing
Ink’s obsession with why he wasn’t filling in point 6 had me rolling
Ink’s Dad: “Hey kiddo, how was zombies history today?”
This isn’t a review of liberty falls. He’s literally talking about the communities reaction after seeing the map compared to what treyarch said about the map before footage was released
I’m fine with a casual map, but I just don’t vibe with the white sunlight, reminds me of Attack of the radioactive thing from IW, if they gave it a different color like an orange sinces its morning, I would like it more
Bro not understanding him about the review comes off as completely disingenuous his video with the white board is more of a breakdown not a review he's talking about the zombies communities expectations and why the map feels like a let down
Right? Some of this did feel rude. Even if it was unintentional.
43:29 I don’t agree, Milo literally says it for you Treyarch said and promised us they would lean more into the Classic Style of Zombies they would go more back to the original Formula.
And after saying that, they reveal that it’s just gonna be CW 2.0 and that is not leaning in to the old formula.
Instead it’s 80 dollars for something roughly 5 million people DON’T want at all.
My take on liberty falls is that it isn’t bad from what we know. It’s definitely a bonus map. Yes, it has a bad aura, but it’s also the first bonus map to include a legit Easter egg. And the gameplay is meant for noobs so I really like how they’ve dealt with this map besides the look of it obviously. It’s not just meant for noobs. It’s also meant for the fans, if not more so. This is easily the third best launch in all of zombies, if not second place. I doubt it’ll beat the bo3 launch, but it has a really solid chance to beat bo1’s launch.
Yo Ink. You need to really try old zombies and new zombies but actually spend time on both. Seems like you really dont know anything
21:00 This def is not the only daytime map… he was literally talking about shangrila another day time map as you said that lmao
Right Inkslasher commenting on his "disingenuousness" while he was invited for the first time in years to Treyarch for not being a shill, Inkslasher
Inkslasher, you might want to learn or experience the old cod zombies. And talk about those stories and lore. Ask Milo(Rolflewaffles) to help you elaborate.
The fact that so many people jerk off the nostalgia boner and act like older zombies games are faultless is hilariously nonsensical.
@@jetfunnybunny5759or maybe people can criticise the lazy attempt at trying to get warzone players into zombies and people pointing that out is actually a good thing instead of being a consumer sheep and accepting anything a billionaire dollar corp does.
@@C2190 yeah how dare they try get more people invested in the zombies mode. It’s only meant for pure elitists such as yourself. How dare they.
@@jetfunnybunny5759 you do realise the main draw of zombies is the fact that it’s different from warzone right? you’re not acting dense on purpose are you?
Liberty Balls is just funny af
Saying hes being disingenuous is weird no? Isn't giving a "review" after 40 mins of gameplay completely different from dissecting the discussion around a hot topic. Like aren't they not even remotely the same thing?
This is what I’m trying to understand, this wasn’t a review of Liberty Falls lol
It was my understanding that he didn't want to do a white board conversation after playing the map, I never said that about a review but fair point.
@@inkslashertv He said He didn’t feel like 40 minutes was enough time to make a review of the map, which is fine but It is kinda weird he hasn’t even made a video discussing it. Maybe he’s just really been that busy. Do you think Treyarch could’ve told him you can’t tell people about certain features? Maybe that plays into it. Idk, just looking for reasons to believe in Terminus
Saying liberty falls unique draw is a "suburban town in the 90's"... Cmon bro, a lot of the intro to this video is you just saying shit just to say shit without critical thought. He's talking about maps original unique draws and you really say "you could say the same about liberty falls... suburban town" Seriously bro Im lost for words.
SCREW ARMOR IS ZOMBIES. its a crutch for casual players. armor makes it 10 to 14 hit down. before with jugg it was half or less. and just feels so annoying when youre trying to do other stuff to have to constantly armor up. they should scrap the armor system, the ammo resupply boxes, and the weapon loadouts and a lot of people would be just fine with what they saw on Liberty Falls. those are the 3 biggest flaws of new modern zombies.
They should also take out load outs,zombies was a lot more fun when we started with a pistol. When you spawn in with the weapon you want then what's the point of wall buy's or the mystery box
Ohh and make the point system back to what it used to be
Womp to the womp 😂
I'm soooo excited for this one very happy you went and reacted to this one
I agree it was a bad marketing having liberty falls at cod next but I also see why they done it because it is the more casual map and most people playing it was multiplayer and warzone people
32:37 I think it’s absolutely fair to say that a multiplayer map looks like it could be a zombies map. He’s not saying the style is exclusive to zombies, but it’s more prevalent in this multiplayer map than it is in recent zombies maps.
the unique draw of lib for me is "what happened in '91 to this town for cars to be destroyed barricades to be setup n for there to be zombies" it's the mystery of the daylight suburban town
also love the open space i love having time to breathe n go get perks or smth that's y i love forsaken sm the main part of the map is very very open
edit: i think not having to turn on power makes sense it's a town it should still have electricity unlike forsaken which was literally a walled off city plus lib being in the DAY makes the map a lot more comfortable hell die maschine was a DAY map n nobody hated on it but now we have a town map at DAY TIME n ppl hate it i don't get it
also zombies needs armor to allow for ppl to save their asses when they're getting swarmed n not die instantly once they're swarmed
38:31 my head canon is that because the riot shield can be brought in, and it’s a load out, it wouldn’t make sense to make a build able shield if the riot shield would be just as effective just without the rocket ability
This is really surreal for me to watch lol. I am a huge zombies player and mostly care about cod for treyarchs zombies but ink is also the only multiplayer RUclipsr I watch. I think the main takeaway for me is that as a person that literally has to wait 3-4 years for the thing I care about cod for to come out, shouldn’t be pandering to people that have never been into zombies. I get the other side of multiplayer/ warzone players that they want to get playing the mode but fr sucks so much that they made such a unique mode in gaming that they basically have a monopoly on, is also tied to call of duty. I’m so torn between both sides but why couldn’t they have just split off and made zombies a separate game 😭
Zombies is more Military then it is Fantasy these days and thats what we miss
Guys what if we are wrong and that's the point..and it gets blown up during the ee and this is essentially the perspective of Transit becoming blown up with in this universe.
It’s actually not good. The thing that was special about call of duty. It had 3 separate mode and the 3 modes was different so it’s like you’re getting 3 different games game in one multiplayer they had zombie oh they had story mode and later on they all so got Warzone. And that was different as well.
I think it'll end up being a lot of people favorite map in the end 😂
1: I highly doubt the EE is gonna change anything tbh unless there are massive parts of this map that haven't been seen etc. 2: I'm sorry treyarch is pushing this game as if they are taking zombies back to the classic zombies feel and the way things should be and were when COD zombies was at its peak like the BO2/BO3 days and the execs etc all know what the community wanted when they said they wanted round based zombies back the community has complained for years, they knew most of the community was against the dumb shit like the armor etc and all the other warzone trash they put in cold war because it was mentioned countless times.
I'm pretty sure during cod next treyarch talked up Liberty falls as a full-fledged map
It is a full fledged map
Liberty Balls enjoyer, huh?
Or he’s just presenting the other extremely valid side of the argument. God this community is the biggest laughing stock.
@@jetfunnybunny5759it’s just a joke relax
@@jetfunnybunny5759milo proposed both the negative and positive sides of the argument. He then said he thinks it’s much too early to decide and that everyone should hold judgment. If you’re referring to the comment you replied to. That’s clearly just a joke bro.
I hope they did the PAP quest and froze all progression and then rerendered all the assests to normal liberty falls so when this map does release its a totally diffrent game
The concept of bonus maps are something that have been in zombies since bo1 and it's pretty much the secondary map that releases on launch to give players an option for mostly just survival gameplay and nothing complicated. Bo1 - kino bo2- Nuketown zombies bo3 - the giant bo4 - classified CW - onslaught. Bo5 - liberty falls
Exactly to say that’s “bonus maps are dumb” is just seeming to be a lack of understanding.
Actually, Bo1’s Bonus Map was Five not Kino.
But I don’t disagree with the rest on you man
20:58 HAVE YOU PLAYED ZOMBIES??? Shangri-la, Die Maschine, FirebaseZ, Moon spawn area, Kino der Toten, Buried, Die Rise, Verruckt. I’m so done with this video it’s really pissed me off don’t ever cover Zombies without actual years of knowledge again holy!!
Containing Samantha and the outbreak is the Easter egg, it’ll probably end with her killing the operator team and Blanchard
We are probably gonna get liberty falls tower by the end of the year which will have underground.
The difference with the zombies cod cycle is ever since bo1 we’ve been screaming for better or for worse “DONT INNOVATE! KEEP IT EXACTLY HOW IT IS!”
You’re the only person saying this.
@@jetfunnybunny5759 elaborate? Because as far as I’ve seen that’s true. Ever since black ops 3 it’s been “this is aliens! Not zombies!” “What are they thinking putting dragons in zombies? Did a 5 year old make the creative decisions?” “Man these Easter eggs are too complex! And the pick 4 perk system is ass!” “I hate spawning with a load out and these Easter eggs are way too easy!”
I’m not saying I don’t agree with a lot of this stuff but year after year we keep screaming to bring it back to black ops 1,2 and 3 style and they won’t listen
@@scwidthezombiesslayer those games already exist. Go play them, they’re not going anywhere bud.
@@scwidthezombiesslayerthe voices in your head don’t count sadly.
@@jetfunnybunny5759 i mean they can’t because people will get hacked lol
I’m excited for BO6 Zombies
Ink, I appreciate you trying to get some zombies content in there. But I think you misunderstood some of this video and don’t quite understand some things.
It's not the set crew it's that the set crew also happens to represent the aura or unique draw.
40 minutes is nothing to be honest, I feel like multiple hours on a certain map is probably what you need to explore and formulate an opinion on it
100%
After playing DMZ and MWZ, I really like the open world feel. BO6 isn't terrible, as a matter of fact I'd say its the most CoD of CoD games I've played since 2019. Round Base Zombies and standard MP modes may not be enough to pull me into playing. I'll play the beta again this weekend. I'm not sure if Zombies will be available to test.
They should get all the big zombies RUclipsrs like riddle darlek jd to come together and collaborate on a map
Yeah they are supposed to make the zombies damage scale with rounds
Now yes, not before Cold War I don’t believe.
@@Twistedslop62 yeah I have heard that is what they are doing with BO6 to make it harder
@@xanzain yeah they are I think
Too many talentless devs working on zombies, they're ruining the mode.
Facts
I would argue many of the implementations into zombies was coming from activision themselves. Trying to get the player base to play all of the modes. Calling the devs talentless is wild to me. Many of the devs that work on the zombies you know and love, are working on zombies now.
@Twistedslop62 Jimmy Zielinski is well gone. The lead devs who're calling the shots now are ruining the mode. It wouldn't be that difficult to implement a classic mode, not alienate the playerbase who put zombies on the map. Even if the higher-ups are telling them to implement warzone mechanics, there is no excuse for the artists not making the game look aesthetically pleasing. Do we really need bright maps, ugly pack-a-punch colours? 87% of male gamers play shooters, so why are they putting girly things in the mode like pink PAP camo's? The art design team haven't got a clue. Understand the roots of zombies, your demographic of players and cater to the majority.
@@karl343 yea Jimmy and Jason are gone, but they are not the only devs. They didn’t even call ALL of the shots.
You should hit up Milo to hop on an episode of his podcast
Rather than make it to where the zombies have to fully destroy your armor then take your health AKA just adding additional health it should make it to where after a zombie hits you after a certain amount of times and then it will deplete your health
Aka
Hit 3 times then it will take your health per zombie
If a zombie hasnt hit you that third time it's taking from your armor.
And armor is not a plate per hit , make it relative hits in total per plate.
I don't think liberty falls looks that bad Can't wait to try it out People.
Shouldn't be judging if they haven't played it You don't judge just by watching it on youtube I only judge stuff When I actually play it Clearly people don't use their heat
I love Mrrofflewaffles but imo Treyarch didn’t inflate the expectations of Liberty Falls, the community did. Treyarch has been very clear that this map is nowhere near the same level as Terminus Island, and yet, the RUclipsrs and community have blown their own expectations out of proportions, all bc the map was foreshadowed in Cold War and MWZ
We already had an Armor system in COD; VANGAURD
Why does the homie look like Rick Sanchez
they told creators things in private at Treyarch knowing they would relay it back to there communities and they know that. its indirect marketing at the very least no?
Good point.
1:16:00 I really don't see a world in which this is a masterful marketing decision. Setting people's expectations low so you can blow them away is a strategy you can use, but you have to be super careful about how you do it. Because to give yourself the best chance at success, you want to set their expectations low *without making them mad*. If someone simply isn't expecting much, you can hand someone something that's just pretty good but not outstanding and it'll still feel like a massive step up. If you do the same thing to someone who is expecting to hate what you hand them and be disappointed by it, you now have to overcome this extra barrier of uncharitability. It looks to me like Treyarch have, perhaps on purpose but more likely unwittingly, backed themselves into a corner where they NEED to knock Liberty Falls out of the park in order to make people eat their words. If it's just ok, people will still be mad.
While I enjoy playing BO3 custom maps, I also really enjoy Cold War and MWZ. I preOrdered BO6 for Zombies. As long as it’s not Vanguard, I will be happy. I like the armor and loadouts. it annoys me that I start with the pistol in B03. Seems llike I have a take opposite from the “serious” players
What a reaction content Yoink... literally half the disagreements were just to not nod along!😞
DarkViperAU (Mat) makes such sound observations about reaction content!🤷♂️
MAYBE IF HE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PLAY LIBERTY FALLS, HE WOULDNT HAVE MADE THIS VIDEO 😅
36:49 the zombies community will be FUMING when liberty falls has the most players than all the other maps because of those multiplayer people lol
I don't think this would be considered a review maybe that's just me seems more like a community based deep dive rather than a map review the difference to me being like hey the community is saying this based off this how accurate is it vs these are my personal thoughts on this exact thing
Rare Ink L
#6 was just for symmetry of the board lol
I think Ink should do more zombies reaction to allow a different point of view then the rest of the zombies community. He is more of the greater Call of duty community looking into the zombies mode and having a different opinion on zombies. You don't want everyone to be one hive mind that just copys everyone else.
@12:00 I NEVER hated tranzit and imma go as far as to say the entire green run. And I find it odd or interesting that for the same reason Milo says hardcore people hated it, is the very reason I did and still do as a hardcore think bo2 zombies including green run is my favorite zombies. The fog, the lava, the dark brown color pallet added onto the “isolation” factor that is missing in modern cod zombies. Regardless of if you wanted to see what was out there and liked the fog or not, it intentionally or unintentionally added to the post apocalyptic world vibe and made it all come together. Me personally, idc who you are, a casual or a fellow “hardcore”….if you hate green run you’re just a hater. Try and tell me green run wasn’t the most horror, thriller, dark both literally and figuratively, zombie apocalyptic zombies we’ve had I’ll gladly be the one to tell you you’re lying yo ass off and you only fooling yoself. Bo2 zombies was the only cod zombies to have me scared shitless to play at night by myself and I’m not alone on that cuz damn near if not everyone who played the game agrees. So I disagree with tranzit being the worst map, I say yall just haters and are outta yall mind. The map features may not have been the best, but the map itself was the best zombie map visually imo
Bro just go play some old zombies, that would help you out a lot, and plus its fun
Why ppl all complaining abt oh yo don’t know zombies lore but everyone entitled to opinion no matter what like it’s weird like they aren’t changing from what Cold War introduced you gotta get used to the fact that armour platting ect is the new normal I think it’s good having a none zombies focussed RUclipsr to discuss their opinions on the game who doesn’t know the lore so we can get different reactions and ideas on separate side
Ink seems to be very critical of milo but not understanding the full context of what Milo is saying. He’s also been talking about treyarch zombies as a whole and getting things incorrect. It would be beneficial if he played zombies at the very least.
Which is y he didnt post a review lol
I don’t like the new minimap no above or below arrow and the dots are a bit of
I will remove any negative thoughts I’ve had if they come through with this so called leaked classic mode that will bring back all the old systems. But I don’t think that will happen but if they do I’ll love this game
Transit is better than Every Zombies map since Ancient Evil. That is a very very very very very very very very very very very very low bar. Haven’t played since Fire Base Z, Cold War Zombies is just awful. It’s so mind numbingly easy, theres no cool maps or anything I point to that I enjoy
There was so many amazing maps back then I remember I used to be scared of zombies 😂 it was even hard for me to get eggs done but I wouldn’t have traded it for the moon. Maps now are so easy all you have to do is turn off your brain. They even hold your hand… I just wish they had that creativity they used to have. Imagine we would of got the Great War map
5:42 “I can see how they are saying Liberty Falls would be more difficult cause it’s smaller less room to move” I don’t think you played the same map 💀 Liberty Balls is as open as a outbreak map and honestly “cause I got stuck in a bank vault” that’s just a skill issue dude 💀
In storytelling there is a phrase show don’t tell and Treyarch should of followed this
Show the cool things or leave them a surprise just telling us all this good stuff will be there isn’t enough
I had to stop watching this video, the guy is insufferable.
liberty balls
@13:00 oh now we just saying shit. Who liked Cold War zombies when it dropped? Not the community. If you think the community like Cold War zombies when it dropped then one day just decided otherwise, you was not in the cod community during Cold War. THAT GAME’S ZOMBIES GOT SLANDERED what are we talkin about “people liked it when it dropped”?? The first map maybe cuz it’s technically a legacy map, but the mode itself got DRAGGED THROUGH THE MUD by the community
Just subbed man! I’m loving your content recently!
I watch these like it’s a podcast 😂
The OG Zombies community is full of hypocrites and will always be 😂 if they were in charge it’d take more than a decade for a single map for a mediocre game
Its actually liberty balls not fails
@31:45 I disagree with the point Milo is making here cuz I argue the bo3 one 1000000000000% looks like zombies. See what Milo and the person who posted these is doing is ignoring the entire picture (which is what matter) and focusing on the item in front of said character. The issue with the bo6 one isn’t the gobblegum machine, like I said it’s the whole picture, ignoring the fact that we know that’s a zombie map, looking at the surroundings and ignoring the gobblegum machine….that looks like it’d be safe to assume they’re playing either warzone, campaign, or multiplayer. Vs looking at the bo3 one, ignoring the item in the picture and focusing on THE WHOLE PICTURE (the “bigger picture” if you will) looking at the surrounding of that fly thing….imma be blunt, you’d be a dumbass to assume that’s any other map than zombies, that bo3 one LOOKS LIKE ZOMBIES, say otherwise and you’re lying and trying too hard to be different. Now let’s look back at the bo6 one (again ignoring the fact that we know it’s a zombies map, let’s say we was clueless), looking at the picture NOTHING but the gobblegum indicates that’s a screenshot from the zombies game mode, the map doesn’t, you have a literal hardpoint icon on the screen, you have a minimap, and the same exact hud as warzone, oh and scorestreaks. Now looking back at the bo3 one, again ignoring the fact that we know it’s zombies, there’s no hud in the bo3 picture but to make it equal pretend there is, we all know what it looks like, and suddenly that ENTIRE bo3 screenshot screams zombies, if you was to look at that same bo3 screenshot with the bug and it had the hud uncovered….you would know without treyarch having to tell you, that’s a zombie map. THATS THE PROBLEM. Im tired of RUclipsrs nitpicking one thing to defend when ITS THE BIGGER PICTURE THAT MATTERS. The gobblegum and fly thing are irrelevant, it’s THE WHOLE PICTURE yall cant be selective and willingly ignorant like that. Thats why nothing is changing and the community is still in an uproar
Like I've said on other videos dogging this map.... It was a beta version and nobody has experienced the whole thing. Y'all weird for dogging something you haven't even experienced
Milos video isn’t dogging on the map.
Don’t need to play it to know I’m not going to enjoy it due to the terrible new game systems. Armor is crap, point system crap, haveing kills streaks crap and load out system crap all these things ruin what made actual zombie fans, fans in the first place.
No, I still don’t like transit I think hard-core people like transit
51:11 For real, dawg. Had he been invited to the event, his opnion would be soooooo different. He praised Blood of the Dead when he played it for the first time with Jason Blundell, and he acted like the map was gonna be one of the best ever. Then when it was all said and done, he and the rest of the community hated the map a month later. It's so hypocritical.
Maybe, just maybe your opinion can change over time 😱😱😱😱😱
@skully5063 You're missing the point. Milo states in his video that the reason he wasn't willing to do a Terminus review was because he hadn't played the map enough to give a review. But he hasn't played Liberty Falls at all, yet he's basically already written it off. Watch the entire video and try to understand my comment before trying to be sarcastic.
Honestly I don’t think it would. He has always said what he thinks. I remember him being very clear about the way he felt about revelations during bo3. And that was when he had a good relationship with treyarch.
Yeah, you all want your way but you’re not looking at what other people want to maybe we want big Mabs that are round based quit being a one little baby
Wicked EDM tape is crazy😭
you're always slighty hating on him lol