Saie Sunvisor Sunscreen Review + RANT

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  • Опубликовано: 28 окт 2024

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  • @katiescollection6707
    @katiescollection6707 3 года назад +33

    I'm tired of brands trying to come out with 'universal' skin products. What works on my fair skin is not going to work on somebody with a deep skin tone, and vice versa. Just come out with an inclusive shade range, instead.

    • @StateofKait
      @StateofKait  3 года назад +4

      YES! And if they can’t do that, they need to be honest if a product isn’t universal

  • @sarah_novio
    @sarah_novio 3 года назад +20

    Thank you for speaking on this! I was gonna buy this until I realized this wasn’t great for deeper skin tones 🥺

    • @StateofKait
      @StateofKait  3 года назад +1

      Yeah I wish more people talked about that

  • @buffalobeautyboy
    @buffalobeautyboy 3 года назад +31

    It’s really sketchy that they removed your from their PR list because you offered valid constructive criticism!

  • @casuallyextra
    @casuallyextra 3 года назад +12

    Kait this was right on the money. So disappointing that they are unwilling to accept constructive criticism from influencers that genuinely love their products. I’m also tired of seeing all of these claims of “sheer” mineral sunscreens. I love your reviews. You look great ❤️

    • @StateofKait
      @StateofKait  3 года назад +4

      Love you, thanks for watching. I have a few more sunscreen reviews coming up and they all claim to be invisible and they all are not.

    • @diananemoy7409
      @diananemoy7409 3 года назад

      @@StateofKait Yep eye roll the second I see that bs. Have spent too much money on trying these brands no matter how clean the formula and maybe they are less like glue texture than others lmao but them coming out of the tube or etc looking "sheer/light" ends there the second you apply it to your face. I so badly have tried to make zinc physical spfs work for years because they are so much healthier for you but having super blemish and oily prone skin they are the koss of death for me as I'm so congested by the end of the day and ruins the efforts of all my amazing skincare year round. So per thay have to stick with quality chemical formulas to be able to have protection and not ruin the work of the rest of my skincare. Wa wa wa! 😅

    • @StateofKait
      @StateofKait  3 года назад

      @@diananemoy7409 EXACTLY

  • @TenderForms
    @TenderForms 3 года назад +6

    I love your in-depth sunscreen reviews and comparisons, and I’ve been waiting for this one! It’s sad to hear they removed you from their pr list over just one comment. I've been back and forth about the brand because I enjoy their products, but this helped solidify some inklings I had about them. Thank you as always for sharing your honest opinion and thoughts, Kait!

    • @StateofKait
      @StateofKait  3 года назад +2

      I so appreciate you! To be fair, I commented, shared on my stories, and had multiple conversations with them via DMs. I thought everything was respectful and polite though so I’m disappointed. I’m hoping that by sharing my perspective brands will listen and start changing.

    • @StateofKait
      @StateofKait  3 года назад

      @@annaburns5382 Anna, you're referring to the Saie Slip Cover, which is a tinted coverage product with multiple shades. This video is about the Sunvisor sunscreen, which is a different product.

  • @TaraBrooke
    @TaraBrooke 3 года назад +26

    The fact that they took you off their PR list because of very valid criticism is fucked.... like wtf?!

    • @starlitmoon1212
      @starlitmoon1212 3 года назад +7

      Right!? It's such a brand turn off to me when they do this.

    • @StateofKait
      @StateofKait  3 года назад +5

      Right? We even had very respectful DMs on Instagram so I’m very disappointed

  • @jemorjerrica
    @jemorjerrica 3 года назад +7

    You articulated your thoughts so well! I feel the same way - this is my current favorite sunscreen. I don’t understand why they couldn’t be transparent (ha) about the sheerness of the product on all skin tones. Not every product works for every skin tone and/or skin type, why do brands feel like sunscreens need to be marketed as if they do?

    • @StateofKait
      @StateofKait  3 года назад +2

      Thank you! That’s exactly what I was trying to say. If a brand can’t make a universal product, just don’t market it as such. It’s not hard.

    • @jemorjerrica
      @jemorjerrica 3 года назад +1

      @@StateofKait exactly! It’s like one size fits all clothing. Suuure it is...

  • @celineramsey2296
    @celineramsey2296 3 года назад +2

    I don't understand why companies are dishonest about these things, as if we aren't going to figure out the truth? Thank you for your candid discussion and feedback!

    • @StateofKait
      @StateofKait  3 года назад +1

      I think the majority of consumers don't pay attention to intent, marketing tactics, inclusivity, etc. So it probably doesn't affect their bottom line.

    • @celineramsey2296
      @celineramsey2296 3 года назад

      Ahh yes those are great points, and I think you are right. The sad reality is that most people don't care unless it affects them personally.

  • @a49-n2o
    @a49-n2o 3 года назад +5

    Such a shame about the brand action! I was starting to really love them as a brand :( I haven't tried their products but was definitely thinking of it ever since you raved about the slip cover! Thank you for this thorough review (I was really wondering the difference between this and the slip cover) and THANK YOU so much for sticking for what's right!! 🙏🏼 Praying more companies are able to be as responsible and honest as we need them to be.

    • @StateofKait
      @StateofKait  3 года назад

      You’re welcome! And thank you for watching. I hope that the more of us who talk about marketing tactics and bad practices means that brands will start listening and changing their ways.

  • @AyyoShyGurlTv
    @AyyoShyGurlTv Год назад

    yeah I actually wanted to do a haul with this brand just to show how they perform but now I’m rethinking that. Only sunscreen that’s clear is supergoop unseen sunscreen so I really like that one!!! No oil, shimmer, doesn’t claim to have coverage. Just CLEAR!!!

    • @StateofKait
      @StateofKait  Год назад

      Very easy to find clear chemical sunscreens, which is what Supergoop unseen sunscreen is. But for those of us with sensitivities to chemical sunscreen, it’s much harder to find sheer mineral sunscreens

  • @Sandymarr_
    @Sandymarr_ 3 года назад +3

    I got gifted the new Supergoop mineral sunscreen and my skin tone leans a bit more on the medium side and it definitely leaves a cast more like a gray cast and if I wear it without any foundation or tinted moisturizer, I look sick! The Saie one definitely works a lot better for me. Interested in the Dr. Dennis Gross sunscreen too. I just need to finish the ones I already own 😅

    • @StateofKait
      @StateofKait  3 года назад +1

      I have those too! Reviews coming for both very soon. Spoiler, I love the DDG but again, it’s not universal and it’s being marketed as such. The Supergoop didn’t work for me

    • @Sandymarr_
      @Sandymarr_ 3 года назад

      @@StateofKait I’ll wait for your other videos to see if I want to try out the DDG one but yeah I didn’t like the Supergoop one. I can get away with it now that the weather is warming up and it’s humid where I live so my skin tends to get a bit more oily but definitely can’t wear it in the winter it’s too dry.

  • @teecee919
    @teecee919 3 года назад +9

    I don’t think it’s a surprise but it’s important to mention: brands that tout themselves as clean and from some sort of ethical bent that align w the “goop” type consumer has consistently been shown to have problematic responses to their treatment of race: saie, kosas, ilia, etc. It’s important for consumers to pay attention- even if a brand claims they’re ethically superior but is tone deaf to race and ethnicity - save your money. Plenty of well meaning white owned brands have gotten away with this for years for appealing to white consumers. But with the internet keeping receipts we are much better at keeping track of these issues- spend your money and encourage the growth on businesses that are owned by anyone considered a “minority” and by brands who take the time and attention to be mindful and compassionate to response if they’re held accountable. There are sooo many products out there!

    • @StateofKait
      @StateofKait  3 года назад +1

      Well said, I totally agree.

    • @StateofKait
      @StateofKait  3 года назад +1

      @@Balletified I would encourage you to look beyond just a shade range of one product when determining if a brand is inclusive or not. Historically, Ilia has not been kind to people of color and I am basing this on direct feedback from my friends who are influencers and are also black. Prior to Ilia expanding their shades this year, they had disregarded and ignored POC consumers for YEARS, saying "oh we have enough shades, the frosted concealer packaging just makes it look lighter than it is." And, "we developed these shades to include everyone!" When they launched a line of glosses last year they launched all light pink shades and one medium orange. When they launched their expanded skin tints and concealers, they only added 4 deep shades but added a bunch of medium and light shades. My friend has an entire highlight on Ilia here: instagram.com/stories/highlights/17872337186199976/

    • @StateofKait
      @StateofKait  3 года назад

      @@BalletifiedAnd I respect your perspective as a makeup artist, but ultimately I will listen to my friends who are black and feel hurt or harmed by these brands. While Kosas and Ilia may have expanded their ranges and offer some products that are inclusive, their general attitude and treatment of POC is disappointing across the board and that's the most important thing to me.

  • @csdsa
    @csdsa 3 года назад

    Love this Kait! Been loving your reviews and swatches, but also your posts that call out the issues in the beauty industry (and beyond). Keep callin em out and thank you for doing so! That brand lost out by dropping you! Thank u next 🙅🏻‍♀️

  • @devanjesmer
    @devanjesmer 3 года назад +7

    I think the thing that feels the most icky to me is all these brands marketing it as sheer are going to get people with darker skin tones buying their product and believing them..and then they try it out. It’s disrespectful and a massive waste of BIPOC time and money. And then there’s the gaslighting 🤡

    • @StateofKait
      @StateofKait  3 года назад +1

      YES, that's such a great point. I'll have to mention that in my next few sunscreen reviews. There are so many issues with the way brands are marketing mineral sunscreens it's hard to even mention them all.

  • @jonreed2611
    @jonreed2611 3 года назад +10

    Definitely not worth it for work with a brand that doesn’t align with your values

  • @loripaige
    @loripaige 3 года назад

    appreciate your rant - it's spot on. bummer said didn't respond well to the constructive criticism. despite all that, I love this this sunscreen. even layered to use the proper amount, doesn't dehydrate my skin throughout the day. keeps it feeling moisturized. biossance has a nice zinc sunscreen too. not as hydrating as this one but good. definitely leaves a white cast. I'm pretty pale & don't mind it, except on my eyelids for some reason. pulls a little red I think. thanks for your honest reviews

    • @StateofKait
      @StateofKait  3 года назад +1

      I shared on Instagram and in my best new blush video, but the founder of Saie personally emailed me to apologize and said she was committed to doing better (or something like that.) Their new releases have been better so I’m hopeful and glad they saw my video.

    • @loripaige
      @loripaige 3 года назад

      @@StateofKait great to hear! I’ll check out your Instagram

  • @kimmm68904
    @kimmm68904 2 года назад

    Great review… excellent information and I appreciate your honesty! 💯

  • @SarahJaneFitness13
    @SarahJaneFitness13 3 года назад +2

    Great video as always. And again, always love how you use your platform to fight for what’s right

  • @blondebeauty995
    @blondebeauty995 3 года назад

    Sorry to hear this! Hope it’s a wake-up call. Haven’t tried the sunscreen, but do use the slipcover daily and like it very much.

    • @StateofKait
      @StateofKait  3 года назад

      I do too, I've enjoyed a few Saie products so I'm disappointed that they didn't respect my constructive criticism. This happens with so many brands though, I'm not trying to single out Saie. This will be a theme on my channel, I'm sure.

  • @maysundstrom
    @maysundstrom 3 года назад +2

    Thank you for speaking up about this.

  • @andreapoulieva6717
    @andreapoulieva6717 3 года назад +13

    Well, I was actually contemplating trying their stuff, but there's no way in hell i'm going to give them my money now, not with this PR list bullshit. Great review though 😀😘

  • @TheGarsowTwins
    @TheGarsowTwins 3 года назад

    Thanks for this review! Was so curious how this differed from Slip Tint (which I also like). Love what you said about the pump - working in the beauty industry, it's pretty simple to get a pump with the proper dosage for a product (as there are lots of options). It seems like they aesthetically wanted the tube and pump to match Slip Cover which is totally fine - but I think there should be more education on how much of the spf you need to use to get that protection. Agree with just being honest - I think it's common knowledge now that zinc is white and very, very difficult to formulate to be "sheer" on all skin tones at a high level - so if it doesn't work on deeper skin tones, that should be communicated - Carli

    • @StateofKait
      @StateofKait  3 года назад

      Thanks for the background on the pump mechanism, I love hearing your insider info. I definitely don't expect all brands to release 100% inclusive products all the time, I really just want transparency and authenticity. If it doesn't work on everyone, they should say so. (And this applies to SO many brands.)

  • @TiffbyTiffany
    @TiffbyTiffany 3 года назад +1

    A great review & I love that spf too BUT I am on that same boat of wanting brands to do better. It’s so embarrassing for them to market something, claiming it suits ALL skin tones ANNND purposely not applying the right amount of sunscreen on models so it seems inclusive lol like - WE’RE WATCHING.

  • @MadelineDellaMora
    @MadelineDellaMora 3 года назад

    you're so right for standing up against brands being, frankly, blatant idiots. just because this isn't a white brand owner's problem, doesn't mean it's something we shouldn't care deeply about and fight the good fight for. thanks so much for the review! Looks like a product that seems "too good to be true" might as well be just that.

    • @StateofKait
      @StateofKait  3 года назад

      Thanks for the support! Unfortunately this goes so far beyond Saie, nearly every brand that launched a mineral sunscreen is complicit in this. Super frustrating

  • @melissaworthington2567
    @melissaworthington2567 3 года назад

    Thanks for speaking out on this.

  • @kathrynbrown1130
    @kathrynbrown1130 3 года назад +4

    The fact that they’re working so hard to gaslight their darker skinned customers is so disappointing and embarrassing. What is the shame in saying “we missed the mark here and we’re adding a second tone to this product line” ?? That would garner far more respect than the way they’re handling this now. I’m sorry that your feedback got you removed from their list.

    • @StateofKait
      @StateofKait  3 года назад +1

      You're SPOT ON, that's exactly what I was hoping they'd do. Instead, they made two dark-skinned models apply the proper amount of sunscreen and pretended that it looked good. It was bizarre!

  • @miafiller8592
    @miafiller8592 3 года назад

    You should do a review of Krave beauty’s the beet shield (it’s SPF 50 but they can’t market it as a sunscreen in the US for legal reasons)

    • @StateofKait
      @StateofKait  3 года назад

      I reviewed it on my Instagram in my sunscreen series! I have a review of it on my SPF highlights. Unfortunately, I had to stop using all chemical SPFs. Even the Krave stung my face occasionally.

  • @mimirooney5034
    @mimirooney5034 3 года назад

    Do you have a video up of oily skin recommendations? I’m really struggling to find one that’s not greasy or makes so terribly shiny

    • @StateofKait
      @StateofKait  3 года назад

      Ugh, I don't because I used to be oily but since hitting 30 I'm BONE DRY. I will say, an oily skin recommendation that I still use is the Paula's Chocie super light daily wrinkle defense. It has a matte finish and it's SO lightweight. I adore it!

  • @xdestiny
    @xdestiny 3 года назад

    I was interested in this brand until I heard about their response by critics/consumers towards their shade range and the whole sunscreen thing. Big yikes. I do believe I saw your IG post about this so I’m thankful for your opinion! The fact that they took you off their PR says a lot. 👀

    • @StateofKait
      @StateofKait  3 года назад +1

      Thank you for watching! I hope they start paying attention to constructive criticism.

  • @clpr2023
    @clpr2023 6 месяцев назад

    So I’m a follower and I put this sunscreen in because Sephora just sent me a sample or maybe I used 100 points I loved it and I put it on and was like wow. I need to see some reviews because this is my first day wearing it. Your video came up first bc I’m a subscriber. I watched your video and went on down the list and every single dark skin person that reviewed this loves it. Shameful to take you off pr

  • @tklmara
    @tklmara 3 года назад

    I have a tan skin tone so I’m going to pass on this sunscreen. Thank you for the review.

    • @StateofKait
      @StateofKait  3 года назад +1

      You're welcome! I think it'll work on tan skin but if you're super dark it wouldn't if you apply the right amount.

  • @TheMakeupArchives
    @TheMakeupArchives 3 года назад

    Brands really need to start being able to take constructive criticism, leaves such a bad taste regarding Saie for removing you from PR because of honest thoughts!

    • @StateofKait
      @StateofKait  3 года назад

      I agree. I get it, they want positive reviews and don't think the return is great if they're giving out free products for less than stellar reviews, but I just want to see more authenticity from brands.

  • @RudiBerry
    @RudiBerry 3 года назад

    Hi Kait! New sub here and glad to see this before my sephora sale haul! 💕

  • @Jellyrouge
    @Jellyrouge 3 года назад

    Totally whack they removed you from PR. Thanks for always giving a honest review- keep it up.
    Also, have you tried Farmacy’s sunscreen? I love it and it feels like a moisturizer. It was also featured in Oprah’s magazine as a good sunscreen fro dark complexions.

    • @StateofKait
      @StateofKait  3 года назад

      ooooooo no I haven't, I'll have to check it out!

  • @taggarca
    @taggarca 3 года назад

    I love a good rant! I follow you on Instagram and I remember when this launched, I saw the IG stories about how problematic the marketing was for the product, so I am VERY surprised to hear you actually ended up liking it! I’ve heard the kinship is also very dewy..which one would you say you enjoy more?

    • @StateofKait
      @StateofKait  3 года назад

      I wanted to give an objective review of the product separate from my opinions on their marketing, but I still wanted to provide the whole context for consumers. The Kinship is very moisturizing, I wouldn't say it's dewy unless you're in a hot or humid climate. In the summertime it's a little too heavy for me but in the winter it totally sets to a satin finish. The Saie is just straight up dewy at all times no matter what.

  • @amyhouston-wandell5694
    @amyhouston-wandell5694 3 года назад

    Very well articulated! Thank you

    • @StateofKait
      @StateofKait  3 года назад

      Thanks for watching Amy!

    • @amyhouston-wandell5694
      @amyhouston-wandell5694 3 года назад

      Thank you for reviewing and posting. And my skin is super dry in the bay right now too... which is so strange given our proximity to water!

    • @StateofKait
      @StateofKait  3 года назад

      @@amyhouston-wandell5694 Right? I was confused why my skin got so dry when I moved here from LA!

  • @hannahlapham4638
    @hannahlapham4638 3 года назад

    Have you tried the cocokind sunscreen?

    • @StateofKait
      @StateofKait  3 года назад

      No, not yet! Haha you tried it? I heard it’s a bit thick and leaves a bit of a white cast but I’m curious

  • @MsVNG
    @MsVNG 3 года назад

    I like biossance

  • @emilykathyrn2699
    @emilykathyrn2699 3 года назад

    I just wanna know what they’re telling these models when they’re doing these demos. “okay guys, so this won’t look good on you and you’ll look ashy as hell but we want to lie to our customers so just go with it, alright?” like let’s think about how traumatizing it must be for those models to have to sit there and apply it and know that it’s going to look ashy on them, yet they’re still made to do it

    • @StateofKait
      @StateofKait  3 года назад +1

      YES I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR AGES! I have had several conversations with brands telling them how traumatizing it must be for the black models they employ to sit there being used as a tool for representation's sake without actually having products that were made for them.

  • @andreapoulieva6717
    @andreapoulieva6717 3 года назад

    OMG, your necklace is gorgeous. Can I ask where it's from ? Thanks !

    • @StateofKait
      @StateofKait  3 года назад

      Thanks! It was a gift from my boyfriend! It’s from Missoma

    • @andreapoulieva6717
      @andreapoulieva6717 3 года назад

      @@StateofKait He's got amazing taste, well done him, and good for you 😀

  • @aaronddp
    @aaronddp 3 года назад +1

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