HOW TO VIDEO: Roofing Basics ...Installing a valley on a shingle roof...the easiest and fastest way
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- In this video , I show you how I do the valleys on a shingle roof.
Many roofers cut the shingles across because they say it's safer .
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Greetings and hope you like it !
Definetly not the best way. You should never have so many small pieces that close to a valley.
Bad idea in snowy/rainy climate. Probably O.K. where dry but I highly doubt it meets mfg. specs. Water will stay in gaps on valley roofing that's place "sideways" and eventually damage/lift it especially when it freezes + get into the nails easier. Gaps need to run down hill as straight as possible just like every other shingle on the roof and you need to cut small 45 degree corner off each shingle on top in valley to release water. Glue the seam a couple inches inboard. I'm from the frozen north, though. Good video, thanks for doing it - just my opinion and I could be totally wrong.
we in Michigan use ice and water shield under the valey run it like how you would the metal valley and then lay the metal valley and then get another peace of ice and water or grace cut in half long ways so you have 2 peaces and lay them 5 to 6 inches from the center of the valley in order to cover nail in that area... thats the best way to do it brothers... no leaks!!! and we chalk our line 3 in from the top of the valley and 4 in on bottom
that's how we install it in Indiana as well. cover's the nails and an extra leak barrier.
sounds like a badass Overkill done right. 💪👍
I prefer to start my shingles from the valley, so don't have to install small pcs close to the valley.
qmax1969 I agree, that makes you a real pro
qmax1969 ......always a full shingle out of the valley...if i need a small piece. ..tab..... i put it in other side of my whole shingle
chris mosher yes I agree ,that is when you start from the opposite side of the valley, but like I said I prefer to start my shingles from the valley Is faster once you learn to nail to the left or to the right
I also start working out of the valley and just run it back. Much faster and you only have one cut. I start working out of the valley on both sides that way it's only to do the valley cut, clip the corner, and run it back to the eve. I go up 3 or 4 courses before cutting the ends. I just find it's faster when you have 1 person taking care of the valleys while the other guy is finishing the runs up the roof
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It really doesn't matter how long you have been roofing if what you are doing is incorrect. There are things that we are required to go by like building codes and manufacturer's specifications. Also when you were nailing fast it looked as though you were nailing high (above the nail line in the single-ply). Every bundle of shingles has instructions to the specifications for installation and if you don't follow those specifications then later when the homeowner has a problem with the roof and the shingle manufacturer's rep comes out and inspects the roof, they will deny it because of faulty installation.
Thanks Eric for this great video. We installed our own open valley and it looks beautiful following your video!!
your guy left 2 seems on the valley together thats improper
Jose Magana that's what I'm trying to say but he keeps on saying that's the way they do it in California. Maybe he needs to know that instruction inside each bundle tells how to make a proper installation of shingles
Jose Magana you caught that to eh? lol good video otherwise.
jose magana are you talking about from the beginning of the video? down from the valley going up?
Jose Magana I noticed it as well.
thats what i was just saying..... 2 shingles lined up together pretty much..
I would make sure i would have at least a 1/4 of shingle as the last piece in the valley. No way i would nail those slivers anywhere on a roof. Those slivers are the first to blow off in high winds.
some people will tell you to seal the shingles to the metal after you pop the line.once the son hits the shingles, they seal and stick to the metal. the only thing different here is we install ice and water under the metal,then cut a piece of ice and water in half and run it on both sides of the metal. however I've seen it both ways, and personally I've never had a problem with it. 👍
Not the right way ,I prefer no nail small pieces near to the valley.
gotta cover the whole starter shingle. I've replaced many valleys people have done this way because it leaves too much space for water
Yep. thats basically a shitty ass california valley 😅😅.
This may work for sunny California but it would cause big problems anywhere with snow,
Prob called California valley bc ppl over there do everything the easy way or the wrong way. I live in Texas & that shit causes leaks here. Its ok bc they are EASY to pull up & re-shingle 😅
I do my valleys the same way. Never had a problem.
Only thing I do different is I don't chalk the lines on W valley. I have a four foot "yard" stick that's 2" wide and I set my starter (header) shingle to that. I just slide it up as I go. It works slick and saves me steps.
You'll find that the people who criticize you are the ones who really don't know as much as they think they do. They might have a roof or two under their belts but that's about it.
I tell them to come back when they have about ten-thousand or so squares behind them and then we'll talk.
Pinto Bean I agree
Theres nothing wrong with it, per se, but, he has seams on seams. Thats the sign of a hack right there. Shitty work.
I haven't seen one video yet where I like how they work a valley. There is always something. Same with this one.
GAF will tell you that this is only acceptable with a 4/12 pitch or greater, AND only with one of their product lines.
So, acceptable? Yes. The best way? Nope.
looks good, im sure it wont leak, but im also sure warranty void, as is any insurance claim if ever need be, lol, shmucks
It seems like this guy who was doing this valley he said that he knew what he was doing because he has been doing roofing for twenty six years and this guy needs to desliza that just because you been doing roofing for twenty six that doesnt means everything he doing is right. well guess what my friend if you been doing it wrong all those years you don’t know jack you have to learn correctly and than my be you can brag a little I raeally don’t know wh they let these folks do these vidios
Shingles need to be installed in a north/south orientation.....always. Running a shingle parallel to a valley is a shortcut used to benefit the shingler, not the homeowner. This is especially true with laminate shingles with tapered top tabs. The tabs are at a 90 degree angle to the water flow minimum, which could direct water away from the valley rather than towards it. Roofing vs shingling 101.
This is a sharks tooth pattern in a metal valley for shingle application how can you get better? State Certified Journeyman Roofer/waterproofer & contractor approved. What he did wrong was work into the valley instead of out he cut twice books (pattern) on the rake edge and his tie into the sharks tooth valley. I almost always used this style valley especially with gravey 4/12 pitch, it runs out perfectly with points on the line. This valley is in manufacturers specs, if you were a certified installer you would know that. On steep you cut into valley like he did, because pitch affects pattern.
Nail guns work both ways if you use your brain don't have to be lefty to run lefty, just practice video maker. Stay thursty!
You supposed to add one eighth of an inch per foot going down the valley to that sock line so that you have created a wider Channel at the bottom is what per manufacturer pabco Premier shingles advises what do you think you're a really excellent roofer by the way I just want to tell you that
I use the same system here in Seattle. It works just fine, I never had a leaky roof.
your high nailing that nail line (big white line) is where the nails go even if you only nail a quarter inch high from that nail line it will still probably blow threw or the shingles will rip off
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Tan wey este compa poniendo piesas chikas de shingles en Los valley's y se la day de muy riata
I prefer using 'rain and ice' weather guard and then closed valley. That way no leaves or needles get stuck in the valley. You just use a leaf blower and it's all clean.
i must be not thinking correct but why were there ends of some of the shingles lining up with the one right below it.. i know usually u have like a 5 to 6 inch difference at the ends, but it looked liked a couple pieces where ending at the same point..... if im saying that right.. maybe its alil different in valley
so instead of cutting your valley.. you start from the wrong side and cut all your shingles anyway... start from the valley side with any valley
It’s fast it’s easy and it works but honestly I hate open valley I prefer closed cut valley
most of these guys don't start in the valley because they don't like to roof from right to left only from left to right here in Indiana we install ice and water shield underneath the metal and then ice and water shield on both sides on top of the metal before you pop the line and run the shingles for a leak barrier I've seen it done both ways and it works either way
What he's doing is called a zipper valley folk's. No good! Each shingle needs to be cut with the bleader shingle that runs up the valley, along with cutting the headlamp of each shingle on a 45 degree angle to draw the water back into the valley. No good.
i think is more easy and fast if you start with full pcs from the valley. so that way you don't have small pcs close to the valley. pero bueno asi se ase en cali creo.
Those bleeders make valleys look like shit & look like where they butt up would draw water in. This is a money making get done fast valley. Cut valleys look twice as good & are way better but I guess if your lazy & suck at cuts thats prob right up your alley.
If your shadow wasnt in the way, a person might be able to see what your doing
you can't put a seam in the valley. it will leak!
really? come to california and remove 1000s of roofs installed that way
it will leak if you don't know how to place your nails, no wonder i fix many roof due to improper nail placement
it doesn't rain in California so I suppose it doesn't matter.
William H Bonney hey, is a waste of time with this rookie. That's the problem of most of roofers, they aren't humble. He's doing it wrong and keeps on saying that in California is the way they work.
William H Bonney
When I put my semen in it always leaks out...
great work
where i live we get a lot of rain and snow, so i use ice and water shield under the w valley as well as over the w valley, (not over it completely but just to where your shingles are. One 1 thing i dont personally like, is it looked like you are using 3-tab shingles for starter, i know a lot of roofers that do, but i much prefer an actual starter strip, although using the 3-tab doesnt affect the standard warranty of shingles, it will not pass for a gaf golden pledge or system plus warranty.
+John Rawlins you are right ! I run out of starters ...I ordered 2 bundles and I was short 2 pieces at the valley area...LOL
I don't like to use 3 tabs shingles as starters because the starter bundle gives me more lineal feet than the bundle of 3 tabs.
Greetings from CA ...where we have 1 week of rain the whole winter.
Can you put a water barrer on the edge of the metal valley then put the shingle length of the valley then start the shingles
Thank you so much. I love you, my big master.
Your video title says installing in valley on a shingle roof, NOT how to install shingles on a valley.
Third shingle up should have cut in half just saying but nice job
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I admire your work ethic and skill. I'm a woman and will be starting my roof soon. I can't afford the 8,000 I was quoted. I have been studying roofing now for weeks. You are awesome and thanks for your contribution.
Mary McKenzie just watch out, he's doing it wrong.
Open valleys are nice where applicable. Obviously not the best option in places with more rain snow and ice. I'm in pa and everyone usually does closed cut valleys. Decent looking though man!! Not crazy at all about the shortys in the valley. 6th at part plus the matching seams made me cringe alot lol but general you have some great vids! Roof on!
No plastic roof cement under the tin valley ?
Rookie mistake 2nd and 3rd course in the valley
+Christopher Wilder he has the shingle that he nailed up the valley underneath of it, plus the valley metal and his underlayment its fine lol
Understood "That Guy". But we use " Best Practice", and a Full shingle always goes in the valley, not small pieces.
its a good practice, but its not necessary at least in his scenario
+Christopher Wilder does it matter in the city wheres rainy only few days a years ))) and still this way allow to save precious time.
+Christopher Wilder Thanks for your comment ...but installing a little piece of shingle doesn't void any warranty or cause any water leaks...if you see...those little pieces I nail them up high . but any way ...I respect your knowledge and keep up the good work !
greetings .
Eric.
i do old school valley i called it v valley it goes both side
Weave ?
your 3rd shingle up by the Valley is Seam on Seam. cut it back.
Nap Horse that seam is above the starter or stringer shingle and the metal...not recommended and I see your concern but being above that stringer it can't leak. Good eye tho.
I'm with you bro, might not leak(probably will eventually) but still bad practice/habit that you definitely don't want to make a regular thing
Never seen it done this way. Great idea. I just don't like how it looks. But I will try using it in the future. Some people might not like the look of it this way.
22 years and still do it wrong 😂
When i saw this video i knew right away that an open valley will be what i'm gonna go for, doing my house roof for the first time by myself and it when all well. Being a Canadian living on east coast with hard winter weather i was a bit worried but now that i done it and saw the shingle bounding with the metal sheet from hot sunny days i have no worries now for the incoming winter....e
Eric Garcia thanks a lot for this video, one of the few very well made roofing valley video on here.
P.S.( Would have been nice to see how to make the part where the valley end and you have to join it with the main roof.)
Otro error en tu trabajo 2 y 3 carrera linea con linea 5y 6 muy cortas la verdad tu criticas mucho a otros trabajos k tienes k hacer k estan mal pero tu estas igual k todos trabajan muy cochino y si tienes 20 o 22 años todavía te falta aprender jajaja
Por que te ries pendejo igual a pendejo
Don't use such small pieces that sht will come right off
That 3rd course, nearly Dean on seam,should of put a scrap piece,10 " in,then full., your last video, first shingle crooked as fuck,watch your vids before you post bud.
Been watching your videos,your a good ass roofer,been roofing in nor cal for 25 years,keep up the good work,we got same style and I appreciate some one who cares about roofing the way you do.
What part of california are you in? I need an estimate for a new roof
One big problem. You are missing roofing cement. Big big problem actually
thanks for the tip !!
Your third shingle you left it seem on seem and one I thing I always do before snapping the line is add ice&water strips along both sides of the aluminum valley
Both seams were over valley. No biggie
Awesome valley bro. I learned this from you and it's all I've used since
hey my friend your work looks good and clean you also cut a straight line thanks for the video
What's the hard hat for? In case a bird shits on you
why didnt you start from the valley when stepping?
+mastakilla2 it takes longer that way ...the downside is ...your lines end up crooked when you get to the ridge...starting from the valley ..it's the most difficult installation and it takes way longer .
So far I have tried every possible way to roofs and this is the best way that works for me .
greetings from L.A
Eric.
Roofing Solutions By Eric Garcia I have to disagree with you on that one. It's way faster to start in the valley and it does not make anything crooked if you know what you're doing...
Roofing Solutions By Eric Garcia but all in all... good video
if its a big deck too you want to run right handed....cuz what happens if someone else on the crew has to finish it for some unknown reason...and aren't a great left handed nailer.
En el tercer shingles emparejante las líneas de agua
it's dry ass fuck in California lol
Nice work thank you for sharing
We usually lace valleys
Well I’m from Texas lol
Bravo you know thats it right there nice simple and beautiful pop i mean why everybody making it difficult lol nice video.
Safety's first !!!!
YeSir.u.The.Man...
Who are those guys!!!
está pesado primo.
California # 1
I’ve been thinking about trying something similar.
Use a modified sbs roll cut into 3rds full length. Same color as shingle.
Or once done paint w valley and modified and sprinkle in granules to match
Been a flat roof for 38 years now retired.
Have not done Complete ( just repairs) steep in years . Now roofing my 8-12. Based in waiting for architectural shingles to arrive.
I hate working off of roof jacks.
But at 58 I do not bounce back
You would do this open valley in an area that gets snow? Ice shield at the bottom of the roof goes up 3 feet. Here in the valley the paper underneath is only a couple of inches away.??
Thanks. I'm putting a small roof over a porch. One side goes to a wall with vinyl siding and the other side is going to attach to the garage roof. I'm assuming where the garage roof and the new porch roof meet, valley flashing is the best way to mate the two together? Great video.
No California style valleys in Tennessee is noting wrong or personal but it not look good and is no guarantees of water proof, yo do not showing ice& water shield
You are #1
I do that also.. that is a cheat and we actually call it a California valley.. it's cheating. . but fuckot i do it
Eric, do you know a trusting honest roofer on the East Coast area in Maryland? I have a small flat roof and have trouble finding a roofer doing small jobs.
thank you
That's definitely not wrong, maybe it's not everyone's preferred method. As long as it's done right and looks professional, that's the important part.
I like how you're saying it works try it you're right that should work even in Pennsylvania any difference in Pennsylvania cuz the winner will use ice and water Shield then we can run our Valley very good video
Not good !
thanks man I needed a refresher course it's been about 5 years since Seattle you don't use it you lose it keep up with the vids man their working
Headlap
That's how I do it in Canada and we call it a California valley... Can't beat it fast and clean looking when done everytime.
Just like a lot of people noticed little pieces of shingles to close to the valley, not right, I roof in the Pacific Northwest areas and we called that a California valley or chitter valley
Excellent work!
Question; do you overlap the underlayment in the valley?
Very helpful. Thanks. That guy had his back so close to the edge!! Made me nervous just watching! That's roofing. Stay safe.
Wrong !
Chingón
Le quedo cercas los enpates del vale
Nufo Gonzalez esos no saben hacer fíjate en la tercera hoja
what's with the gloves soft lady hands lol
yeah...my wife says my hands are too rough...so she made me use gloves...lol
+Som Simp i would shingle my own house cause thats what i do
but no he ain't setting foot on my roof not a chance
+Som Simp you can trust him to install your roof right and water tight
+Som Simp go with eric
Eric, I love your videos! Do you have video where you show both metal valleys from the dormer tying into each other. I have a couple ways I cut and create an upside down "V" at the top of the valley. I'd also like to see how you install the ridge cap over the top of metal valley and under the shingles on the main roof. Thanks! -Mario
Nice
What's the hard hat for blocking the sun or ya getting ready for the sky hook
Amateur do it yourself roofer here and I've been having a small isolated leak right at bottom of my valley . Looks like you gave me a good idea . I put in roof cement but still leaks . Just do it right like you show
Very helpful, but How do you finish the valley at the peak? You did not cover that. Thank you
Awesome video. I am going to try your method tomorrow. Looks like it leaves a real clean look. Thanks again for sharing some wisdom.
in the valleys we put the shingle plus a starter under the shingle to prevent wather going under...
Thank you that's great I'm doing my first valley this morning
Porque 5 o 6 clavos en los shingles que corren para arriba en el valley metal ?? Con 2 o 3 que le pongas es suficiente y que fue eso 2:33 ?? 🤣🤣🤣 usa piezas enteras en el valley 4:39
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im glad i watched this. i only put 2 nails in each starter shingle for valleys and bottoms. cause the other shingles get 5 nails. and in valleys you nail up it to. just a tip to save u some nailing labor
I have never seen that done before. But I havnt roofed in over 20 years.