Old Rusty Fan [Restoration]: Emerson 29646

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  • Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024

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  • @user-qv6lb5vy4b
    @user-qv6lb5vy4b Год назад +4

    Makes me a little kid again been liking old fans for nearly 63, years

  • @colin_5839
    @colin_5839 5 месяцев назад +4

    Wow very nice job! So nice to see someone who isn't a huge fan expert actually take the time to look into things and do everything the right way / even go a bit above an beyond! I see way too many of these restoration videos where people do some rather messed up things so I was very pleasantly surprised with your attention to detail here! Keep up the good work! That fan came out amazing!

    • @BencoVintageMachineWorks
      @BencoVintageMachineWorks  5 месяцев назад

      Thank you for the kind words. It gives me encouragement to tackle my next fan attempt. It's a Century "Skeletal" S3 fan which is looking at me with sad eyes to fix it up....lol.

    • @colin_5839
      @colin_5839 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@BencoVintageMachineWorksOhh man those are nice fans! I would like to own one some day! good luck with that resto! I'll be keeping my eyes out for the video!

  • @moschettiflavio3635
    @moschettiflavio3635 2 года назад +4

    The painting job is astonishing. So smooth, so shiny. You did even the gold stripes! Marveillous. Also a lot of care on the inside.
    The brass fan plates are perfect.
    The cord also a nice touch

  • @mftmachining
    @mftmachining 3 года назад +6

    That came out super beautiful. Excellent craftsmanship. My respect.

  • @michaelbreaux9164
    @michaelbreaux9164 4 месяца назад +3

    I wish I could give you a 100 Likes. This video and restoration is awesome. I am currently re doing the same model Emerson and I know mine will never come out like yours. It is simply Awesome.

    • @BencoVintageMachineWorks
      @BencoVintageMachineWorks  4 месяца назад +1

      Thank you. I am a novice when it comes to fans so don't let that discourage you. Take a slow and steady approach and I am confident you'll be successful.

  • @ManuelSanchezRosas
    @ManuelSanchezRosas 3 года назад +4

    Excellent work, your knowledge shows in every milimiter of this beautiful fan. Congratulations, respect.

  • @robertdiffin9136
    @robertdiffin9136 Год назад +2

    So satisfying! I swear I could feel the breeze when you turned it on.

  • @Ryan-fosho
    @Ryan-fosho 2 месяца назад +1

    Awesome video. Bought the same model fan today, was running at the antique shop just the oscillator wasn’t moving. Now I get it home, plug it in, move the speed to one and nothing… move it to two and nothing… move it to full speed and it kicks on full power. Then I went to turn it off and it shocked me and quit running…. My works cut out for me

    • @BencoVintageMachineWorks
      @BencoVintageMachineWorks  2 месяца назад

      Its a great fan. Very well made. Good luck on your project. Glad the video is useful to you.

  • @lvxleather
    @lvxleather Месяц назад +1

    That is really awesome. Nice work.

  • @davidrice6680
    @davidrice6680 3 года назад +4

    A master at restoring.
    Great job.

  • @ScoutCrafter
    @ScoutCrafter 2 года назад +2

    Another outstanding restoration! Thanks!!!!!!

  • @england670
    @england670 Год назад +1

    You are an amazing machinist/Restorer. You know about everything and how to take care of it.

  • @husafel
    @husafel Год назад +2

    Excellent Work!!

  • @jspies22
    @jspies22 2 года назад +1

    Beautiful work! I love how the color change turned out and the pin stripe!

  • @llajoem
    @llajoem Год назад +2

    amazing job!

  • @user-ut4qj5jg9h
    @user-ut4qj5jg9h 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thats a verygood video tutorial keep it up brother.😊

  • @shanesmj1
    @shanesmj1 2 года назад +2

    Very helpful video.... My son spent hours trying to get a blade off and then watched your video and had it removed in 5 minutes. (We have the same model but the case is cracked so we are going to make a lamp with it.)

  • @02markcal
    @02markcal 2 года назад +2

    I have an Emerson 28646 That I bought about 3 years ago and is in worse shape than yours but hope to have mine look half as good as yours came out. After watching this restoration it gives me hope/motivation to try the restoration myself. GREAT job and thanks for making this video! ~ Mark

    • @BencoVintageMachineWorks
      @BencoVintageMachineWorks  2 года назад

      The older Emerson fans were really well made. Glad to hear that you feel motivated to restore yours now. Thank you for watching.

  • @melttheguns
    @melttheguns Год назад +1

    Beautiful job. Love the Europe 72 shirt!

  • @kevindavis883
    @kevindavis883 Месяц назад +1

    My uncle just gave me one of those fans that his father-in-law took off his ship in World War II and is still working great video if I need to tell mine apart one day I'll be able to do it thank you

    • @BencoVintageMachineWorks
      @BencoVintageMachineWorks  Месяц назад +1

      They were well made and durable. A little oil and you are good to go!

    • @kevindavis883
      @kevindavis883 Месяц назад +1

      @@BencoVintageMachineWorks Thank you

    • @BencoVintageMachineWorks
      @BencoVintageMachineWorks  Месяц назад

      @kevindavis883 👍

    • @kevindavis883
      @kevindavis883 Месяц назад +1

      @BencoVintageMachineWorks is there a way I can send you pictures of the plate and the fan? I just got it today

    • @BencoVintageMachineWorks
      @BencoVintageMachineWorks  Месяц назад +1

      @kevindavis883 You can post pictures on our FB group "Antique Electric Motor Experts". Its a great group.

  • @jeffreyangell6409
    @jeffreyangell6409 Год назад +1

    I'm really learning a lot from your videos. Thank you so much!

    • @BencoVintageMachineWorks
      @BencoVintageMachineWorks  Год назад

      Glad that someone finds them useful. Thank you for watching.

    • @jeffreyangell6409
      @jeffreyangell6409 Год назад +1

      @@BencoVintageMachineWorks Love the Grateful Dead shirt by the way I saw you wear in one of your videos! I look forward to watching your other ones. Have a great day.

    • @BencoVintageMachineWorks
      @BencoVintageMachineWorks  Год назад

      Love the Dead and attended Jerry Garcia's last show in Chicago back in 95.

    • @jeffreyangell6409
      @jeffreyangell6409 Год назад

      @@BencoVintageMachineWorks Wow! I live in VA and I remember when they came through Washington D.C. at RFK Stadium on that last Dead tour. We were supposed to go to the lot but weren't able to attend. Was privileged to see many others (like the Other Ones) on many momentous occasions, including Oakland on New Years Eve 1999-2000. One time the Garcia Band (after Jerry) went through our small town playing at a redneck bar. I remember vividly getting into a van with Melvin Seals and other band members to show them around to the more quaint places nearby where we could sample the local herbs. I must have been 16, almost 30 years ago. Anyways, Thank you so much again.

  • @user-hr1jv3xd1y
    @user-hr1jv3xd1y 11 месяцев назад +1

    Another incredibly GORGEOUS restoration job Terry! The fan is beautiful! I immediately knew as soon as you touched it, it was going to come alive again. I admire your mechanical restoration work. Thank you so much for sharing! O, I just wanted to share a tip w/you. I noticed you taped your vice to protect the fan blades. I do small scale metal work & I enjoy a silicon sheet to protect the finish on my pieces. Just in case you might like to use some for your pieces.

  • @rebeccaclaycomb2273
    @rebeccaclaycomb2273 3 года назад +2

    Very nice. You did a great job on that.

  • @niemannkai
    @niemannkai 3 года назад +2

    Well done

  • @bretmaxwell1892
    @bretmaxwell1892 11 месяцев назад +2

    I would love for this to be an 80 minute video instead of a 40 minute video without all the fast forwarding, no narration, etc. I'm a novice at this and didn't learn very much about what you were doing. Thanks for what you are doing!

    • @BencoVintageMachineWorks
      @BencoVintageMachineWorks  11 месяцев назад +1

      Unfortunately its impossible to record a project like this in real time. I probably have 40 or 50 hours minimum time spent on this fan. Glad you enjoyed the video though.

  • @mikejohansson6711
    @mikejohansson6711 2 года назад +1

    excellent work! I have an old Emerson just like yours and my Sn number is also in the N range....

  • @13Todesengel
    @13Todesengel 2 года назад +2

    I restore last weekend one 1933 AEG table fan too.
    Very nice job,thank's for your video. În my opinion, original black color was bețter than this red .(but if I have a second option I choose red).
    Congratulation for your work! Greatings from România!

  • @22Mikeref
    @22Mikeref 28 дней назад +1

    Very nice!

  • @AmeriFanPicker
    @AmeriFanPicker Год назад +1

    Amazing job man. Wow. Blown away

  • @tonylenge424
    @tonylenge424 2 года назад +1

    Scoutcrafter mentioned you and I had to check out your videos. Since I recently acquired three vintage fans , this video will be very useful. I just subscribed since I can tell I will learn allot from you. Thanks

  • @girliedog
    @girliedog Год назад +1

    Very well done. Be careful the lady you got this from is going to want it back.

    • @BencoVintageMachineWorks
      @BencoVintageMachineWorks  Год назад

      Thanks. If I could remember her, I'd show her a picture next time I visit the flea market.

  • @jamesalsup9135
    @jamesalsup9135 3 года назад +2

    Excellent!

  • @leahcim38
    @leahcim38 2 месяца назад +1

    Love it.

  • @coreyfellows9420
    @coreyfellows9420 3 года назад +1

    Great sound

  • @bioshock6935
    @bioshock6935 3 года назад +2

    Shame most of this is speeded up i would of liked to see this in real time and here you as your fixing it you done a super job to it

    • @BencoVintageMachineWorks
      @BencoVintageMachineWorks  3 года назад +2

      I appreciate you watching and commenting on the video. You can slow down any RUclips videos playback speed in the settings. Hopefully, that will help you. It's impossible to have the entire project playing back in real time because I probably spent 40 hours on that fan if not more.

    • @bioshock6935
      @bioshock6935 3 года назад +2

      @@BencoVintageMachineWorks yes i know but some people do a part 1 and then part 2 and so on over the weeks instead of doing it like you did i watched a project how a person made the star trek enterprise with the lights all done from scratch and using fiberglass molds i liked how he done it in stage each days go's past and your there watching the progress over time was nice and yes i do understand what your saying very time consuming and probably got a lot of other things going on with your life still you done an excellent job

  • @fredames6184
    @fredames6184 Год назад +1

    Awesome job… your work and your video!! I’m working on an Emerson 73646-AK that only really has one speed (out of three). It has a split-phase motor and has a speed choke & capacitor. Resistance checks on the choke and motor are identical to another similar fan (77646) that runs all speeds. So, could the capacitor be the problem? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

    • @BencoVintageMachineWorks
      @BencoVintageMachineWorks  Год назад

      This fan was my first and only attempt at an antique Emerson fan so I don't feel qualified to diagnose oroblems on things in which I do not have experience. I recommend that you join our FB group Antique Electric Motor Experts as well as the AFCA forum online. You can post pictures and will get answers quickly. Best of luck on your project!

    • @BencoVintageMachineWorks
      @BencoVintageMachineWorks  Год назад

      The AFCA is not a FB group but an impressive online forum. Have fun!

  • @Kasey1776
    @Kasey1776 3 года назад +2

    It looks great but I recommend repainting it the original color.

    • @BencoVintageMachineWorks
      @BencoVintageMachineWorks  3 года назад

      Thank you for watching the video.

    • @rebeccaclaycomb2273
      @rebeccaclaycomb2273 3 года назад +2

      If you have one in this bad a shape and you going to have to complete redo it might as well redo how you want. At this point no matter what color you use it will only increase the value.

  • @VKRshop
    @VKRshop 2 года назад +2

    Amazing restore job. Beautiful. I'm in the middle of a restore on the same fan. Very Helpful information. Can't, however, find the small brass rivets for the name plate. CAn you help?

    • @BencoVintageMachineWorks
      @BencoVintageMachineWorks  2 года назад

      Thank you for the compliment. As to your question: The rivets that secure the name plate are commonly referred to as "Drive Rivets" they are available at McMaster-Carr or on ebay as "Manifold Drive Rivets". Best of luck with your project!

  • @Zackthefanman76
    @Zackthefanman76 3 года назад

    Nice job. Just a side note these take a lot of oil to make sure to add at least 2 oz. Of oil.

    • @BencoVintageMachineWorks
      @BencoVintageMachineWorks  3 года назад +2

      Thank you for the heads up. I did some research on that before reassembling and added that amount. Glad you enjoyed the video.

  • @maiconvengrzennunesbusolog4864
    @maiconvengrzennunesbusolog4864 Месяц назад +1

    👏👏👏

  • @hankjones4756
    @hankjones4756 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the video. Beautiful work! My question is regarding the wiring. What is the wire size for this fan? Did most antique fan manufacturers use the same size wiring? TY

    • @BencoVintageMachineWorks
      @BencoVintageMachineWorks  2 года назад +1

      Hello, great question you asked! I used 18 gauge wire in this project. When discussing wire gauges, a higher number means a smaller wire. This motor doesn't draw too much current so no need to go overboard. Thank you for watching the video.

  • @DeborahOneal-q5t
    @DeborahOneal-q5t 6 дней назад +1

    where do you buy the correct size and type brass rivets, I can't see the details on the bag you bought ?

  • @shebeest
    @shebeest 2 года назад +1

    What an inspiring video! I've now watched it at least six times and am ready to tackle my own fan restoration. A couple of questions that I couldn't find answered in the video. 1. Did you prep the fan cage or enclosure for priming by soaking it in Purple Power as you did with the other painted parts? 2. With regard to the blades and boiling them in vinegar/salt, how did you keep them numbered? I doubt you left the masking tape on them while boiling them. 3. To revive the badge on the front of the fan and on the motor body, did you also boil those in vinegar/salt or did you soak them in Purple Power? Fingers crossed that my fan can look as gorgeous as yours when I finish. It once belonged to my parents. Thanks!

    • @BencoVintageMachineWorks
      @BencoVintageMachineWorks  2 года назад +2

      Hello, Thank you for the kind words. As to your questions: 1)The cage was soaked in PP to remove the old paint and dirt from it. I then soaked it in Evapo-rust to remove corrosion so that it could be painted. 2) I lightly stamped each blades number on the back side where it is hidden by the hub. 3) Front badge I put in PP and then boiled it in vinegar. The motor tag I just polished by hand. Anything you place in PP will lose the paint so its your call. You can always repaint the motor tag afterwards and then lightly sand off the paint on the embossed letters. I will offer my advice that, by far, the most important part of your restoration will be taking your time to do a thorough job on restoring, varnishing and wiring the motor and speed coil. The cosmetic stuff is just icing on the cake. I wish you the best of luck on your project.

    • @shebeest
      @shebeest 2 года назад +1

      Ha! I know my limits and have arranged for an expert to do all the retiring and motor restoration. Thanks again for the inspiration and encouragement.

    • @shebeest
      @shebeest 2 года назад +1

      *rewiring

  • @placardedinop
    @placardedinop 10 месяцев назад +1

    I have the same fan but my blades are not brass... A magnet sticks to them! I'm guessing some of these fan were made without brass fans?

    • @BencoVintageMachineWorks
      @BencoVintageMachineWorks  10 месяцев назад

      The later ones were not brass

    • @placardedinop
      @placardedinop 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@BencoVintageMachineWorks Do you know of any place to get brass blades?

    • @BencoVintageMachineWorks
      @BencoVintageMachineWorks  10 месяцев назад

      Theres regularly used blades on ebay. Also check Antique Fan Parts website...

  • @justice4all997
    @justice4all997 Год назад +1

    Anyone what do these # mean on my working fan...serial 1762928, cycles 100-120, model 241853B.

    • @BencoVintageMachineWorks
      @BencoVintageMachineWorks  Год назад

      You can get the details about any antique fan over on the afcaforum (Antique Fan Collectors). Its a great group.

  • @quangphuongbangcoiquangphu7330
    @quangphuongbangcoiquangphu7330 6 месяцев назад +1

    In Việt Nam love like

  • @MohammedARahim-wi3to
    @MohammedARahim-wi3to 2 года назад +1

    Hi ...
    Good Work...
    By the way I have a Diehl Table Fan with a Bad Speed Switch.. Kindly inform me were can I buy a replacement Speed switch for Diehl Model No (Cat No) G16912.
    Tank You and God Bless and a Happy New Year to you all
    Mohammed A. Rahim
    Manama-Bahrain

    • @BencoVintageMachineWorks
      @BencoVintageMachineWorks  2 года назад

      I recommend joining the group "Antique Fan Collectors". Someone there will either have one or point you in the right direction. Good luck with your project.

  • @ed-amanofmanyprojects4078
    @ed-amanofmanyprojects4078 2 года назад +1

    can you give the the name of where you bought the gromments

  • @jokersdave6831
    @jokersdave6831 Год назад +1

    You did a fantastic job on that unit. I'm restoring the same fan and found your video to be an excellent source of information. Could you tell me what the part number is in the brass rivets you used on the blades? I looked at jay-cees website and can't seem to locate a match.

    • @BencoVintageMachineWorks
      @BencoVintageMachineWorks  Год назад +1

      I don't remember it. It's been awhile. They were semi-tubular and came in bags of 100. I annealed them before using. Good luck on the project!

    • @jokersdave6831
      @jokersdave6831 Год назад +1

      What process do you use for annealing them?

    • @BencoVintageMachineWorks
      @BencoVintageMachineWorks  Год назад

      I used a propane torch

  • @ForestWoodworks
    @ForestWoodworks 2 года назад +1

    Looks like that linen tape is used frequently. I think I see it on my motor too. Do you know some of the common situations where it is used? Motor is a capacitor start induction... hope that's the right name. my mouth dropped when you talked about the DIY brassing technique. Totally hope there's a video for that. 🔥 Wait, where did you get a Walker-Turner shirt? 😎

    • @BencoVintageMachineWorks
      @BencoVintageMachineWorks  2 года назад +1

      The fabric tape is used cosmetically over electrical soldering connections after the heat shrink tubing is applied. I almost never use any wire nuts or regular electrical tape. The capacitor start motors were usually less expensive to manufacture than the Repulsion Start Induction Run motors but ball bearing varities are good on a drill press where the motor needs to be mounted vertically. I had the t shirt custom made. The brassing technique is shown in the video. Just heat with a torch and wire brush the piece with a solid brass wire brush in the dremel tool. Would not use in situations where the temper of the metal is real important.

    • @ForestWoodworks
      @ForestWoodworks 2 года назад

      @@BencoVintageMachineWorks everything you do is so well-thought out! Thanks for explaining.

    • @ForestWoodworks
      @ForestWoodworks 2 года назад +1

      @@BencoVintageMachineWorks Terry, I'm pretty far into the windings on my motor. I've removed the tape and insulation on a couple areas where the winding coils are connected and I can't seem to melt the solder (even at 800f) in order to separate them, so I could add heat shrink, then resolder. I'm hesitant to cut the connections. What could I insulate with, if I don't cut them to use heat shrink? I've got them pretty well cleaned up, so they just need to be reinsulated, then friction taped. If I snipped them, I could resolder, but it won't give me much to work with.

    • @BencoVintageMachineWorks
      @BencoVintageMachineWorks  2 года назад

      @@ForestWoodworks This is the area you posted a picture of in the group?
      If so just slide heatshrink down over the solder joint as far down as it will go. If the leads need replacing then can cut and solder on the new one a little higher up. Its not ideal because now you will have an extra solder joint but it is better than the alternative of damaging the winding.

    • @ForestWoodworks
      @ForestWoodworks 2 года назад +1

      @@BencoVintageMachineWorks so this is just up from the severed area where there are winding coils wrapped together and soldered... it looks like they come out the stator from the other side. The insulation material was pretty shot, so I removed it and was going to separate the joint to slide on some heat shrink, then resolder, but I can't undo them. So instead of cutting them, I'm wondering if there is an alternative to heat shrink layer. Also, I just repaired the severed coil and it looks like I used too small of heat shrink because I can't slide it over the joint. Man, going south in a hurry. I'll post a pic of the area on the group, if you want to check it out.

  • @JigeeLive
    @JigeeLive 3 года назад +1

    What is the name of the website you bought the grommets and rubber washer from?

    • @BencoVintageMachineWorks
      @BencoVintageMachineWorks  3 года назад +2

      www.hudsonscustommachining.com is the website for the fan parts. Thank you for watching the video.

  • @kiernanmcmahan2865
    @kiernanmcmahan2865 2 года назад +1

    Question - how do you go about cleaning the stator and then vanishing the windings? There do not seem to be many youtube videos on the matter except by middle eastern users that I can't understand.

    • @BencoVintageMachineWorks
      @BencoVintageMachineWorks  2 года назад +1

      Watch my video on the 1/2 HP Emerson motor because I go into detail about that very subject. If after watching it you still have a question let me know.

  • @c0nfidential1
    @c0nfidential1 2 года назад +1

    Hi, I was wondering did you cut the rivets off of the information plate and use new ones to reattach or did you heat them up and remove and reuse them, thanks.

    • @BencoVintageMachineWorks
      @BencoVintageMachineWorks  2 года назад

      I usually cut off the heads using the Dremel and a cutoff wheel. Then drill out any remnants still in the hole. Sometimes you can access them from inside the housing if you remove the stator like I did here. In that case you just tap them out from underneath using a pin punch. The rivets themselves are commonly referred to as drive rivets or drive screws. You can find them on Mcmaster-Carr or ebay under manifold rivets. Good luck and thanks for watching!

    • @c0nfidential1
      @c0nfidential1 2 года назад +1

      Is there a certain size or length you use, say for example #4 5/16?

    • @BencoVintageMachineWorks
      @BencoVintageMachineWorks  2 года назад

      Yes the #4 5/16 is what I used

    • @c0nfidential1
      @c0nfidential1 2 года назад +1

      @@BencoVintageMachineWorks what size brass rivets did you use to reattach your fan blades?

    • @BencoVintageMachineWorks
      @BencoVintageMachineWorks  2 года назад +2

      The rivet size is 9/64 x 7/32 x 15/64 oval head semi tubular. I bought them from Jay-Cee and you have to order 100.

  • @JigeeLive
    @JigeeLive 3 года назад +1

    Where did you purchase the brass rivet replacements?

    • @BencoVintageMachineWorks
      @BencoVintageMachineWorks  3 года назад +1

      I ordered the rivets from Jay-Cee rivets through their website. I used the semi-tubular style. The rivets come in bags of 100.

    • @rebeccaclaycomb2273
      @rebeccaclaycomb2273 3 года назад +1

      @@BencoVintageMachineWorks if u have that much you could probably sell some to recoup your cost. JigeeLive might want to buy some of your excess

  • @Iggybu
    @Iggybu 3 года назад +1

    Can you add references of where you got some of the repop parts from please?

  • @alessandropezzella855
    @alessandropezzella855 3 года назад

    Wow

  • @tonysmith9466
    @tonysmith9466 2 года назад +1

    awesome video sir. i've gotten into old vintage fan and have about 10 now. could you please sgare Darrell Hudson's web address?? i'd like to have him as a contact on ordering items for my old fans.

    • @tonysmith9466
      @tonysmith9466 2 года назад

      nevermind, i found it in the comments below.

    • @BencoVintageMachineWorks
      @BencoVintageMachineWorks  2 года назад

      Glad you enjoyed the video. www.hudsonscustommachining.com is his website. Good luck on your projects.

  • @jflorecita
    @jflorecita 2 года назад +1

    What does a restoration like this cost?

    • @BencoVintageMachineWorks
      @BencoVintageMachineWorks  2 года назад +1

      I do these restorations because I enjoy them and doubt it would be worth anyone to pay for the time involved. I spent at least 35 hours on this fan. Thank you for watching.

  • @metalcountryfan9294
    @metalcountryfan9294 Год назад +1

    How did you clean the contacts on the switch I need to that on my Emerson Type 450.

    • @BencoVintageMachineWorks
      @BencoVintageMachineWorks  Год назад +1

      My contacts were corroded so I removed the corrosion using Evapo-Rust on a paper towel. Afterwards I polished them up using the Dremel tool.

    • @metalcountryfan9294
      @metalcountryfan9294 Год назад

      @@BencoVintageMachineWorks Ok thanks I appreciate it.