Maybe Ford is playing marketing games with axle ratings? I have a SWB XLT on order. Sum of front and rear axle weight ratings in Australia is 3447kg (Lariat LWB is 3583kg despite diffs being the same; maybe higher spring rates?). The same model as mine in the USA has front axle rated at 1773kg (1565kg Australia) and rear axle at 2045kg for max tow package (1882kg), totalling 3818kg. Australian models have 9.75 inch 3/4 floating diff standard (according to 4X4 Australia, Australian models are fitted wth Max Tow package standard). Payload for same model as mine in USA seems to be 932kg (albeit not sure if this includes fuel or other accessories Ford Aus have fitted); mine is 769kg, which is still a bit light on. Ram has higher total axle ratings (3630kg) despite diffs being smaller (Ram 8.5" and 9.25"; Ford 8.8" and 9.75").
@@tjpauto My point being that the F150 is used more as a family vehicle here. People who are towing or hauling much tend to go for larger trucks. We don't have a 3.5t or 4.5t cutoff, so the F150 is really being artificially slotted into a category that it wasn't designed for. They are really intended to maximize comfort at the expense of payload. Some guys do tow that kind of weight with a 150/1500 class, but normally you aim for 80% or less of tow rating for the maximum weight of your trailer. If you try and push to maximum tow rating you always run out of payload (unless you are a single, relatively light driver with nothing else in the truck that didn't come from the factory and manage to get exactly the right percentage of the trailer weight on the tongue). We have the advantage of having the F250/F350 and F450 available at not a huge additional expense.
I know that the GVM is what it is, but what are your thoughts on the rating of these trucks stock in the US vs in Aus. Seems they have derated them here even though the kit is the same? So whilst not legal, they should be capable of driving with a payload of 932kg? In saying that keen to get a GVM upgrade anyway but still trying to find someone in WA
@@tjpauto but is that just a wish? Just a hunch? Extrapolation from some bits and pieces of things you’ve seen, heard, and read? Is it a tip off from someone who knows someone? Is it insider knowledge/direct from someone working in Ford?
Thank you for your time.
88 Mitsubishi FK 415 16000kg gcm with a 6000kg towing weight. It may be old n slow but it allows me to tow a 28ft Sharkcat wherever, whenever!.
Maybe Ford is playing marketing games with axle ratings? I have a SWB XLT on order. Sum of front and rear axle weight ratings in Australia is 3447kg (Lariat LWB is 3583kg despite diffs being the same; maybe higher spring rates?). The same model as mine in the USA has front axle rated at 1773kg (1565kg Australia) and rear axle at 2045kg for max tow package (1882kg), totalling 3818kg. Australian models have 9.75 inch 3/4 floating diff standard (according to 4X4 Australia, Australian models are fitted wth Max Tow package standard).
Payload for same model as mine in USA seems to be 932kg (albeit not sure if this includes fuel or other accessories Ford Aus have fitted); mine is 769kg, which is still a bit light on.
Ram has higher total axle ratings (3630kg) despite diffs being smaller (Ram 8.5" and 9.25"; Ford 8.8" and 9.75").
Thanks for that mate, really helpful 👏
The 150/1500s are entry level full size trucks. If weight is a big concern a 250/2500 or 350/3500 is a better choice.
100% thew f150 is the USA version of our Hilux work mate. but this video is about what is what it can tow.
@@tjpauto My point being that the F150 is used more as a family vehicle here. People who are towing or hauling much tend to go for larger trucks.
We don't have a 3.5t or 4.5t cutoff, so the F150 is really being artificially slotted into a category that it wasn't designed for. They are really intended to maximize comfort at the expense of payload. Some guys do tow that kind of weight with a 150/1500 class, but normally you aim for 80% or less of tow rating for the maximum weight of your trailer. If you try and push to maximum tow rating you always run out of payload (unless you are a single, relatively light driver with nothing else in the truck that didn't come from the factory and manage to get exactly the right percentage of the trailer weight on the tongue).
We have the advantage of having the F250/F350 and F450 available at not a huge additional expense.
Where abouts can i find info on the 4ton ranger coming out next year?
I know that the GVM is what it is, but what are your thoughts on the rating of these trucks stock in the US vs in Aus. Seems they have derated them here even though the kit is the same? So whilst not legal, they should be capable of driving with a payload of 932kg?
In saying that keen to get a GVM upgrade anyway but still trying to find someone in WA
Thanks
Thank you but can you stop tutting and tapping the whiteboard 😂
What’s your source for the 4 tonne Ranger? It’s now April
4000kg gvm is due April , 4000kg towing is due mid year.
@@tjpauto but is that just a wish? Just a hunch? Extrapolation from some bits and pieces of things you’ve seen, heard, and read? Is it a tip off from someone who knows someone? Is it insider knowledge/direct from someone working in Ford?
@@CM303898 It has nothing to do with Ford its Lovells releasing it. And we are Lovells suspension dealers
@@tjpautoyeah righto. I feel like that wasn’t well explained at 5:45. It came off as something manufacturer supplied as opposed to SSM.