That guy in the wheelchair is living his life to the fullest and I am over here making excuses. I think a lesson is being learned. Dudes got a badass entry to his truck and a sweet AF SSS.
Wow, your friend Scott and I have an awful lot in common. Although, he is a lot younger than I am. And I have been paralyzed for 40 years this July 12. It's great to see that he is out there and enjoying life!
Probably one of the smartest youtubers, gets a GT500 and basically is the only one consistently posting vids of the car on track,street and now the strip. What I'm getting at is that these videos have probably almost if not paid the car off already. Hats off to you good sir and good luck
I really appreciate your genuine attitude with how you portray yourself and your cars. You're one helluva track driver, and now your learning something new with the drag strip, and taking us along in one cool car. Keep up the great content, you're finding and showing us many things with this new GT500 that others fail to even mention.
Its proably the not the high rpms its probably letting off and leaning in the thottle causing it but if he held 5g or so smoothly it may do better. The clutch dont care how fast its spinning once its engaged its when you slip a clutch that generates heat
@@mnemonicabyss yup it depends on airflow if your engine breathes big the max torque will be higher but most engines peak at 4500 or so but overhead cam with vct maybe 5g that 8500rpm gt350 may show peak torque at 6000rpms lol (probably not)
Once again Austin, great, informational content. Driving responsibly, and actually driving without modifying the car before you have learned all you can about the car. Nice job.
The burnout had the clutch(es) too hot. Good job Ford saving that DCT. High launch 🚀 RPM being held combined with the burnout and overheated the clutch(es)... Good to know she’ll go limp first.
Billie Buckamer ... read his post again idiot. And then maybe you will understand. ANYTHING MECHANICAL, with non stop abuse WILL FAIL. Ford was very smart to do this. Saves the car and your ass
@@StefBelgium there definitely is a clutch in those cars thats y its a DCT Dual Clutch Transmission its built like a manual transmission but shifts automatically
He’s just trying to look nice. The young man appears so genuinely nice. I’d volunteer to do his muscle work against any haters he runs into. Let the guy live or dress or whatever he wants. Can’t we just all get along. The guys at the track were all nice and helpful to him too. Props to them. Love seeing the good vibes. Contact me if you ever need any assistance young man. ;)
Finding the rpm sweet spot in regards to keeping traction is the launch key. My car works at 2800, anything more is spinning. Another great video Thanks SP!
Clutch was simply overheating. The safeguard is there to keep from damaging the DTC. It appears it overheated after your burnout. The slicks may have created the heat since this issue never happen running your street tires.
So far, issue with electronic parking brake and then the overheating clutch. Absolutely watching for more issues or solutions. Especially for any word from Ford. Thanks for the content. I’m getting mine in April.
You show me that you can row gears as fast as the DTC. Then I might consider. Ever stick Mustang GTs I see run at my local NHRA track get their ass kicks by 10 speed GTs. Missed shifts and terrible launches. Give me the dual clutch.
@@hemi300c4 I get it...at a drag race it would be quicker shifts. I dont live my life a 1/4 mile at a time. An automatic is always going to be a bit more boring to me. If that car was offered in both I would pick the manual. To each his own though.
@@Was-here2 A proper paddle shifted trans is anything but boring. A DCT is not an automatic, it's a semi-automatic manual. It's a manual at heart, just with computer controlled clutches. It's obvious you've never driven a DCT or a single clutch F1 trans. I have (Ferrari), and the way these things feel make you say "manual what?" It's honestly a ton more fun because it feels like a proper race car, like you're in an F1 car. And I drive a C6 Z06 which is of course manual every day and it's great, but I'd still choose those paddles. I wouldn't be saying that if I had never experienced them.
That is a common message in the Nissan GTR R35, the clutch packs which you have in 2 baskets one for the odd gears and one for the even gears. If they reach a high enough temp you will see this message, its a safety feature to prevent clutch failure. No worries just let the trans cool down and don't listen to people trying to tell you to do a John Force Burnout. This will raise the temps in the clutches, when drag racing the car wont see alot of air flow to cool everything down. Carry on!
Really appreciate the thorough comment Frank! I have full confidence that this will probably not happen again for me... I'm glad that we're spreading awareness for what could happen! Thanks again for commenting.
@VogelStang...I'm wondering if the tires gripping so well also contributed to the issue. The launch control wasn't ready to see that much grip at that high RPM and it created the over temperature issue. I've heard the Raptor transfer case I've put in my truck has the same feature where if the clutches in TC overheat it locks into full time 4H then not to damage the unit. Its actually good to know Ford thought of this and prevents the GT500 from overheating and damaging the clutches.
@@StupidFastTruck That's a good point. It's really the only thing different between these runs and his previous runs so it certainly seems logical. Someone needs to get to the bottom of that error code and figure out how to keep the temp down to prevent any damage. People will want to run a tire at the track and do more than 1 pass LOL
@@martinritch5241 Yea, I can't wait to see what he does with his when he gets it! He'll squeeze everything out of it down the 1/4. Tons of props to Austin for getting his feet wet and learning.
Great video Austin yea I’d say it’s a protection thing!!! I mean people are making 945 rwhp and running 9s already with the GT500 it’s a beast for sure
hoss moss there are 2 different videos that came up today 1 is that guy that owns a rental lot his new gt500 has 38 miles on it doesn’t even do a pull and check engine light misfiring. The other was at the drag strip after burnout get hits it and car Throws wrench 🔧 it’s on my Facebook page underfedcoyote5.0 or look up on RUclips I don’t have there exact names think 1 is Gypsy 1320
13:53 sounds like a clutch just overheated due to the current conditions you were. Possibly overheated right at the time you left. I wouldn't concern yourself over it until it happens again. I love this car!
Part of your issues with duel clutches is and I don’t know how ford is doing it but you have your one clutch engaged and that 2nd clutch is rubbing on the other side of the flywheel creating the flywheel to get too hot so that’s what the shifts are so fast but the down fault of the system is they run hotter when your on it this is just a general explanation cause every manufacturer does thing different and I don’t know there set up but I can tell you how the Alfa 4c works but good videos nice to see people who have cars like this use them for what there made for I wish I could afford one
1976autotech1 Ford is slipping the clutch so much at launch it’s ridiculous. That’s why the car won’t 60ft. They are giving it just enough torque to get out of the hole. I say raise the rpm shift rpms limit, but leave the launch 🚀 alone ! Ford didn’t raise the launch RPM limit above 3200 for a reason. Popped clutches won’t be cheap 🤭🍿 !
Yeah, it looks like you just triggered a warning, and it saved everything until it cooled off. With sticky tires, you probably need to bump the rev limit higher to really launch it, that's how we ran manuals.
I have a question. I know if you hold both paddles in while moving the car will shift into neutral so you can rev the engine but doesn't the car have a feature where if you hold the downshift paddle in the car will downshift into the lowest gear possible I believe? Can someone confirm this?
Wow, so on your second pass you only held the RPM set speed just a hair over 3 seconds !? Is THAT to long ? Only about a second longer than in Texas !? It worked before at 3300.. Hope nothing is wrong. Keep up the great content !
I use to not like this kid but i realize i was low key hating. He’s actually pretty smart a really good driver and is putting out the videos we want to see. Keep it up bro
Question I need answered on the 2020 Shelby GT 500 in manual mode when you accelerate the car does the transmission automatically down shift for you I want the car so bad thank for the input
In manual mode the car will not upshift for you no matter what. However, it will downshift if it is forced to (like slowing to a stop without downshifting manually).
Hard to tell but from the looks and sound of it didn't seem like there was any water in the "water box". Maybe that caused a little too much stress on the clutches.
Good vid, nice to see you learning and teaching at the same time with your 500 at the dragstrip. Can't wait to get my Shelby... getting a 2020 350 instead though.
Ok John Force LOL Very strange considering what they went through at Vegas. Maybe adding a fan to the trans coolers since no air is passing over them during burnout and staging..
Frozen Stang Vegas was on stock tires. The tires are the other safety feature. They lose traction before the clutch stock. With a drag radial, the slip of the clutch Ford designed in to save the DCT, is a detriment because the clutch spins excessively before it realizes it needs more “bite” and adds more force to spin the drag radial. Maybe a second calibration for drag tires is need , or realizing this isn’t a drag car🥴. 1.8 60ft stock says it all🥴. This is my guess as a non-engineer enthusiast lol 😝.
Your traction control enabled but your launch control said not available was it because you were still in neutral when you tried to activate launch control or rolling forward a bit?
That clutch warning was dependent upon the circumstances. So, you need to figure what factors make up those circumstances. Weather, temperature slickness of surface, engine readings, etc.
Looks like better transmission cooling is needed for pushing the car consistently. The temperature limiter is probably conservative to maintain clutch life.
Just my opinion but I think you’re better off on a road course. Even with all the protective relays and interlocks the chances of catastrophic damage are greater on the strip. While it has massive power the new GT500 is not what I’d call a factory drag car, it’s a factory road racer, basically a GT350 with a lot more power. But again it’s only my opinion as a GT350 owner. It’s your car so it’s your choice how to enjoy it.
My inexperienced opinion is that your John Force burnout went past the start line (poor track etiquette unless you're in a 8 second car, btw) forcing you to reverse. Most automated manual transmissions slip the clutch a lot in reverse. The heat from the prior run and burnout were probably on the higher end of allowable temperature, then reverse put you at the limit not leaving much left for launch.
Love the car, and congrats brotha! Be safe with that trans! I Haven't seen a GT500 cut a lower 60ft than 1.6. Even. the one with 950whp is stuck in the 1.68. Stock redeyes cutting 1.4/1.5 all day. Everyone keeps saying lets get that trans unlocked. Nope, its gonna grenade. This car aint capable of much more of a 60ft. With 1.6/1.7. this car will have a lot of trouble finding. low 9.'s unfortunately. There is EP. GT500 has. way more money and mods than I do, and cant break 1.6 60ft and ran 9.6. My redeye is cutting 9.3 with less mods and 1.4 60ft. Be. careful tremec don't make the best transmissions, I know I owned 2 GT500's and 2 GT's.
Was hard to see, but I didn't notice water where you started the burnouts.. If there wasn't water down and you try / or do burnouts you can burn out a clutch of any variant dct or manual. So make sure there's water down. And roll out post burnout a bit more gently.
Does Scott have a RUclips? How does he drive stick? I am an a similar situation. I've got an LS1 w/ automatic, would love to be able to go back to stick
The reason your spinning is prep.....when you were in Texas the strip was properly prepped, and your car was hooking. When you go to these test & tune events, lots of people are running on street tires, which wears down the prep faster. Also if you have the stock front tires on, you should never drive through the water box. The treads on street tires will hold water and drag it up to the starting line. Instead go around the water box, back up into it, then pull up outside it and burnout there. I'm thinking the reason your car went into "limp mode", was you had the RPM too high for too long staging with launch control.....in your first pass you only had it up for a second...… your second pass you did it for several seconds...…..I'd look for the first amber light after the tree starts dropping to rev it up with launch control on, and go on third light....your reaction time will greatly improve as well, if you leave when you see the 3rd amber light.
Supercars use DCTs. It's all a matter of how it's put together and how aggressive the cooling is. Just as manuals span a wide range... so too do autos, DCTs included. Sounds to me like either a flakey sensor feeding the computer lies, or insufficient tranny fluid cooling from the factory for that kind of use. On a track you're getting gobs of airflow, not so much doing a largely stationary burnout on a transmission that is already at operating temp to start with. So yeah, bigger cooler and/or more powerful fan. Might want to change the fluid while you're at it, bet that shit is expensive.
Hey man unfortunately I'm not able to drive myself but I love to ride along! I'm not able to drive at all so it didn't make a difference if the car was stick or not.
Just cuz you can do 3200 RPM launch doesnt mean you should... My Durango SRT I used to think launched better at 3500 which is the max.... however I found that 2800 RPM was the best as far as no tire jumping and decent torque... With the cool weather and only having done 1 launch prior I still dont understand why the clutch got so hot already. This is where the Hellcats come into play with the race cooldown features that the Ford doesnt have.
When holding the car against the brakes & revving the engine, I would have thought the torque converter would be where the 'slip' is & not the transmission clutch(s) :-/ How about revving/holding the car in Neutral then switch to 'D' or 'S' at launch?
Great content man really been enjoying the gt500 uploads keep it up maybe next time start with lower rpms like a previous person mentioned and work your way up from there
Love this video man! Keep em coming! I also love how friendly everyone is and helping you! Definitely do bigger burn outs to get those rears hot and sticky!
I knew I saw you there. I wish I could’ve seen you run. First off, beautiful car man. And second, the burn out was a little too long, try 6-7 seconds for nt05’s and with line lock just mash it don’t modulate the throttle. And try foot braking for launch, then try launch control, I would say start off at 1500 and work your way up from there. I think 1500-2000 will be your sweet spot until you get a smaller rim and a tire with a bigger sidewall ,then you can launch it harder at higher rpms ....
sounds like dual clutches should stay on the road course not the drag strip unfortunately, c8 owners will find that out too. You'll get 1 good pass before you have to stop. The zf 8 speed in the red eye/demon seem to fare the best to abuse and back to back passes. honorable mention: gm/ford 10 speed
Trans is the weak link going to need beefed up! Stock clutches slipping to much at stock power and to many fail safes vmp did a gt500 swap with a 6 speed behind it awesome!
14 deepblue gt500 The slip is engineered lol. It’s a feature to limit torque. That’s why the clutch got hot with the drag-radials. Couldn’t spin so needed more clutch ( 🔥) to get the rears loose.
@@TooManyChoices1 I Know this hopefully someone can tune that out of it it shouldn't slip at all waiting to see what the after market has for these transmissions the trans slipping is killing to 60 foot big time!
@Kong 76 I'm keeping my 14 till I see what these cars are truly all about after a few years if I like what I see maybe time for a upgrade I'm guessing a three year run so maybe a new 2022 if I like what I see
Hope it’s not going to be too bad😬 Edit: Not the worst thing ever, just a malfunction you’ll be good the next time👍🏻 awesome content btw keep it coming.
I wonder what the clutch pack cost. may be a wear item like the brakes. I for one cant want to see where the power limit is on the motor and trans. if it turns out to be over 1000 whp it would be a sweet drivetrain swap in to my 2010 instead of a 20k build motor.
Well my friend, we did get a lot of attention with their knicker in a knot. Sounds like many dont like any advice who have a few experience. PS Do you have a double clutch or a DSG box in your motor
john kidd yes it’s a dual clutch design at the fly what has two shafts one internal and one external to allow the preselection of gears. Then the clutch is hydraulically clamped and engage and disengage to cause the gear change. Clutch pack 1 might be 1,3,5 and 7. Clutch pack 2 is 2,4,6
The manufacturers are pushing these muscle and sports cars to the max from the gate! Moving forward I truly believe that performance modifications will be a thing of the past unless you do a build from scratch... hence the reasoning behind voiding your warranty is in effect! Drive them and enjoy them for what they are not for what they might become!
Franklin Strong - good point! Exceeding limits (per the manual) and ignoring a warning ⚠️ could cause heat damage and warranty issues. Added mods to this car that would exceed mfg.limits may void warranty.
That guy in the wheelchair is living his life to the fullest and I am over here making excuses. I think a lesson is being learned. Dudes got a badass entry to his truck and a sweet AF SSS.
God your so right, I feel like a piece of shit now
Go in the corner and have a word with yourself
the gut in the wheelchair is such a nice cool dude i like he
@@turbine6338
*guy
I wonder if he would trade it all for his legs?
Wow, your friend Scott and I have an awful lot in common. Although, he is a lot younger than I am. And I have been paralyzed for 40 years this July 12. It's great to see that he is out there and enjoying life!
Thanks man! All the best to you bro!!!
Blessings & Peace Brother !!
Always giving us the true info wether good or not. Great positive vibes! Keep it up!!
Probably one of the smartest youtubers, gets a GT500 and basically is the only one consistently posting vids of the car on track,street and now the strip. What I'm getting at is that these videos have probably almost if not paid the car off already. Hats off to you good sir and good luck
I really appreciate your genuine attitude with how you portray yourself and your cars. You're one helluva track driver, and now your learning something new with the drag strip, and taking us along in one cool car. Keep up the great content, you're finding and showing us many things with this new GT500 that others fail to even mention.
If I seen this man dressed like that at a drag meet I’m betting against him every time 😂
He's playing games with the haters!
You started off at 3200, try starting at 2000 and work up to find the sweet spot.
When doing your burnout keep your rpms more consistent instead of revving the rpms up and down. This may reduce heat buildup.
Its proably the not the high rpms its probably letting off and leaning in the thottle causing it but if he held 5g or so smoothly it may do better. The clutch dont care how fast its spinning once its engaged its when you slip a clutch that generates heat
@@Daniel-sd3qk yup, peak torque is what, 4000rpm? Why you redlining?
@@mnemonicabyss yup it depends on airflow if your engine breathes big the max torque will be higher but most engines peak at 4500 or so but overhead cam with vct maybe 5g that 8500rpm gt350 may show peak torque at 6000rpms lol (probably not)
Sounds more like this thing is made of glass.
I think the car just hooked up so well and the clutch was like, "yo, I'm out! " maybe with those sticky tires you need a clutch mod.
Thanks for your honest no bull car Channel , been tuning in for awhile now. Love the content!
Great video as the TCM parameters get mapped out we learn a lot more. Ford definitely implemented fail safes with the DCT to prevent damage.
theyermany it’s not a ford transmission it’s made by tremec
Reminds me of the GTR it'll do this too
Once again Austin, great, informational content. Driving responsibly, and actually driving without modifying the car before you have learned all you can about the car. Nice job.
The burnout had the clutch(es) too hot. Good job Ford saving that DCT. High launch 🚀 RPM being held combined with the burnout and overheated the clutch(es)...
Good to know she’ll go limp first.
Good job Ford? There’s no way it should go into limp mode ...especially in cool weather.
Billie Buckamer ... read his post again idiot. And then maybe you will understand. ANYTHING MECHANICAL, with non stop abuse WILL FAIL. Ford was very smart to do this. Saves the car and your ass
@@billiebuckamer8189 I guess you dont know how friction works. Read more before you make that stupid statement
There is no clutch in an AT! I mean it s not a clutch that works the same way as in a MT.
@@StefBelgium there definitely is a clutch in those cars thats y its a DCT Dual Clutch Transmission its built like a manual transmission but shifts automatically
Really liking the grandpa sweater, you are like the car version of "TheReportOfTheWeek"
Facts
it’s something mr.rodgers would of wore
never compare anyone to reviewbrah 😠
I thought the same thing
He’s just trying to look nice. The young man appears so genuinely nice. I’d volunteer to do his muscle work against any haters he runs into. Let the guy live or dress or whatever he wants. Can’t we just all get along.
The guys at the track were all nice and helpful to him too. Props to them. Love seeing the good vibes. Contact me if you ever need any assistance young man. ;)
Finding the rpm sweet spot in regards to keeping traction is the launch key. My car works at 2800, anything more is spinning. Another great video Thanks SP!
Clutch was simply overheating. The safeguard is there to keep from damaging the DTC. It appears it overheated after your burnout. The slicks may have created the heat since this issue never happen running your street tires.
So far, issue with electronic parking brake and then the overheating clutch.
Absolutely watching for more issues or solutions. Especially for any word from Ford.
Thanks for the content.
I’m getting mine in April.
What I think.... it needs a 3rd pedal.
Eric , you are soooo right.
You show me that you can row gears as fast as the DTC. Then I might consider. Ever stick Mustang GTs I see run at my local NHRA track get their ass kicks by 10 speed GTs. Missed shifts and terrible launches. Give me the dual clutch.
@@hemi300c4 I get it...at a drag race it would be quicker shifts. I dont live my life a 1/4 mile at a time. An automatic is always going to be a bit more boring to me. If that car was offered in both I would pick the manual. To each his own though.
@@Was-here2 A proper paddle shifted trans is anything but boring. A DCT is not an automatic, it's a semi-automatic manual. It's a manual at heart, just with computer controlled clutches. It's obvious you've never driven a DCT or a single clutch F1 trans. I have (Ferrari), and the way these things feel make you say "manual what?" It's honestly a ton more fun because it feels like a proper race car, like you're in an F1 car. And I drive a C6 Z06 which is of course manual every day and it's great, but I'd still choose those paddles. I wouldn't be saying that if I had never experienced them.
Hemi 300C all I heard is your excuse to be gay
That is a common message in the Nissan GTR R35, the clutch packs which you have in 2 baskets one for the odd gears and one for the even gears. If they reach a high enough temp you will see this message, its a safety feature to prevent clutch failure. No worries just let the trans cool down and don't listen to people trying to tell you to do a John Force Burnout. This will raise the temps in the clutches, when drag racing the car wont see alot of air flow to cool everything down. Carry on!
Really appreciate the thorough comment Frank! I have full confidence that this will probably not happen again for me... I'm glad that we're spreading awareness for what could happen! Thanks again for commenting.
Great information let us know if you can get this overheated issue worked out
Hopefully just a matter of learning what to do and not to do
@VogelStang...I'm wondering if the tires gripping so well also contributed to the issue. The launch control wasn't ready to see that much grip at that high RPM and it created the over temperature issue. I've heard the Raptor transfer case I've put in my truck has the same feature where if the clutches in TC overheat it locks into full time 4H then not to damage the unit. Its actually good to know Ford thought of this and prevents the GT500 from overheating and damaging the clutches.
@@StupidFastTruck That's a good point. It's really the only thing different between these runs and his previous runs so it certainly seems logical. Someone needs to get to the bottom of that error code and figure out how to keep the temp down to prevent any damage. People will want to run a tire at the track and do more than 1 pass LOL
VogelStang GIVE STANG MODE A CALL
@@martinritch5241 Yea, I can't wait to see what he does with his when he gets it! He'll squeeze everything out of it down the 1/4. Tons of props to Austin for getting his feet wet and learning.
Great video Austin yea I’d say it’s a protection thing!!! I mean people are making 945 rwhp and running 9s already with the GT500 it’s a beast for sure
Ya an others are going into limp mode and check engine lights are coming on misfiring in stock trim
@@underfedcoyote5.022 who?
hoss moss there are 2 different videos that came up today 1 is that guy that owns a rental lot his new gt500 has 38 miles on it doesn’t even do a pull and check engine light misfiring. The other was at the drag strip after burnout get hits it and car Throws wrench 🔧 it’s on my Facebook page underfedcoyote5.0 or look up on RUclips I don’t have there exact names think 1 is Gypsy 1320
Bro I love your videos! You are so genuine! Would love to meet you this year!
13:53 sounds like a clutch just overheated due to the current conditions you were. Possibly overheated right at the time you left. I wouldn't concern yourself over it until it happens again. I love this car!
Fanny Licker
Lol 😂
Dudddeee, those doors on his truck are epic. At first you think its 2 normal doors, and then it opens....
Does this car need to be broken in 1st? I would see what type of oils and fluids are in it and see if its possible to upgrade them.
Trouble shooting, what was the last thing you did before it happened? Drag radials? Maybe stress on the transmission? Someone else brought that up.
Post the 500 vs challenger hellcat or demon already”
Stang Over the world how can he?! Overheated 2nd pass. Can’t hang with the big dogs
Minneapolis Mopar shut up fanboy
Jschlatt Funny Mic show me a Demon shutting down because it’s getting to hot 🤣. Put up or shut up
He aint touching no demon
@@minneapolismopar6484 try an actual racetrack
Good job finding the weak spot in the DCT
Wow needs more transmission cooling?
Speed Phenom’s channel is blowing up now. Keep bringing the great content to us.
Lund racing has their 2020 over 900 hp and so far the trans is taking it. There goal is to see how far they can push it before something breaks.
What's your camera setup for those pov views behind the wheel...how are you mounting it? Thanks!
Part of your issues with duel clutches is and I don’t know how ford is doing it but you have your one clutch engaged and that 2nd clutch is rubbing on the other side of the flywheel creating the flywheel to get too hot so that’s what the shifts are so fast but the down fault of the system is they run hotter when your on it this is just a general explanation cause every manufacturer does thing different and I don’t know there set up but I can tell you how the Alfa 4c works but good videos nice to see people who have cars like this use them for what there made for I wish I could afford one
1976autotech1
Ford is slipping the clutch so much at launch it’s ridiculous. That’s why the car won’t 60ft. They are giving it just enough torque to get out of the hole. I say raise the rpm shift rpms limit, but leave the launch 🚀 alone ! Ford didn’t raise the launch RPM limit above 3200 for a reason. Popped clutches won’t be cheap 🤭🍿 !
Yeah, it looks like you just triggered a warning, and it saved everything until it cooled off. With sticky tires, you probably need to bump the rev limit higher to really launch it, that's how we ran manuals.
my scat pack will cut out if im on the launch control to long as well.
i figured it was just a time out. might be a clutch heat thing just like yours.
So if you could only have your GT350R or your GT500 which would you pick?
The tire smoke burn out in the gauge cluster when doing a burn out that's a cool quark feature for 2020 GT500
wait so he went slower with Drag Radials?
I have a question. I know if you hold both paddles in while moving the car will shift into neutral so you can rev the engine but doesn't the car have a feature where if you hold the downshift paddle in the car will downshift into the lowest gear possible I believe? Can someone confirm this?
Lowkey he gives me a Micheal Cera vibe lol
I must say those new gt500's sound mean as hell. Beautiful car my friend I'm glad you're enjoying it.
Wow, so on your second pass you only held the RPM set speed just a hair over 3 seconds !? Is THAT to long ? Only about a second longer than in Texas !? It worked before at 3300.. Hope nothing is wrong. Keep up the great content !
I use to not like this kid but i realize i was low key hating. He’s actually pretty smart a really good driver and is putting out the videos we want to see. Keep it up bro
Question I need answered on the 2020 Shelby GT 500 in manual mode when you accelerate the car does the transmission automatically down shift for you I want the car so bad thank for the input
In manual mode the car will not upshift for you no matter what. However, it will downshift if it is forced to (like slowing to a stop without downshifting manually).
I've owned a DCT before and its not good to hold the rpm for so long. Basically a 2 second window I would find. Rev low. Maybe 2500rpm.
Then what's the point of using drag tires if you cannot properly heat them up?
Hard to tell but from the looks and sound of it didn't seem like there was any water in the "water box". Maybe that caused a little too much stress on the clutches.
It'll be interesting to see how this transmission holds up. Hopefully it ends up being more reliable than the POS that was the Focus/Fiesta DCT.
Good vid, nice to see you learning and teaching at the same time with your 500 at the dragstrip. Can't wait to get my Shelby... getting a 2020 350 instead though.
Erich Jefferson just curious, will it be your daily driver? I’ve been looking at 2019 GT350s but it would be my only car
@@westsideskateshop564 nah I have a Roush f150 as a daily
Nice! I just ordered mine a couple months ago!
@@wartortilla2819 yeah ordered mine on Black Friday, still waiting on my Vin
Ok John Force LOL Very strange considering what they went through at Vegas. Maybe adding a fan to the trans coolers since no air is passing over them during burnout and staging..
Frozen Stang Vegas was on stock tires. The tires are the other safety feature. They lose traction before the clutch stock. With a drag radial, the slip of the clutch Ford designed in to save the DCT, is a detriment because the clutch spins excessively before it realizes it needs more “bite” and adds more force to spin the drag radial. Maybe a second calibration for drag tires is need , or realizing this isn’t a drag car🥴. 1.8 60ft stock says it all🥴. This is my guess as a non-engineer enthusiast lol 😝.
Your traction control enabled but your launch control said not available was it because you were still in neutral when you tried to activate launch control or rolling forward a bit?
That clutch warning was dependent upon the circumstances. So, you need to figure what factors make up those circumstances. Weather, temperature slickness of surface, engine readings, etc.
Looks like better transmission cooling is needed for pushing the car consistently. The temperature limiter is probably conservative to maintain clutch life.
Just my opinion but I think you’re better off on a road course. Even with all the protective relays and interlocks the chances of catastrophic damage are greater on the strip. While it has massive power the new GT500 is not what I’d call a factory drag car, it’s a factory road racer, basically a GT350 with a lot more power. But again it’s only my opinion as a GT350 owner. It’s your car so it’s your choice how to enjoy it.
I'm sure it can take more power and torque, but you would definitely have to upgrade the clutches.
I Can’t get my line lock to work on my mustang bullitt, any tips? I’ve read the owners manual and I still can’t figure it out .
Adrian ATI25 Pump that pedal and build the line pressure up
So glad that didn't end the way i was thinking. Thought for sure that beautiful car was going to get a new stripe.
You had a lot of smoke around your front wheels. Slipping clutches in the transmission?
Also with a softer tire that will help the wrinkle of the tire will help clutch out
I think the smoke pouring out around the front tires during the burnout may be a clue that the clutches got warm.
My inexperienced opinion is that your John Force burnout went past the start line (poor track etiquette unless you're in a 8 second car, btw) forcing you to reverse. Most automated manual transmissions slip the clutch a lot in reverse. The heat from the prior run and burnout were probably on the higher end of allowable temperature, then reverse put you at the limit not leaving much left for launch.
Wonder if because it hooked harder that time if it was similar to slipping a real.clutch to much to the point it smokes it??
Love the car, and congrats brotha! Be safe with that trans! I Haven't seen a GT500 cut a lower 60ft than 1.6. Even. the one with 950whp is stuck in the 1.68. Stock redeyes cutting 1.4/1.5 all day. Everyone keeps saying lets get that trans unlocked. Nope, its gonna grenade. This car aint capable of much more of a 60ft. With 1.6/1.7. this car will have a lot of trouble finding. low 9.'s unfortunately. There is EP. GT500 has. way more money and mods than I do, and cant break 1.6 60ft and ran 9.6. My redeye is cutting 9.3 with less mods and 1.4 60ft. Be. careful tremec don't make the best transmissions, I know I owned 2 GT500's and 2 GT's.
Was hard to see, but I didn't notice water where you started the burnouts.. If there wasn't water down and you try / or do burnouts you can burn out a clutch of any variant dct or manual. So make sure there's water down. And roll out post burnout a bit more gently.
Is there a measurement for that on the rims? it wouldn't be offset right?
It would be a fun if you please do a drag race a hellcat red-eye vs your gt500
What was your 60' time on that run that the clutch code came on?
Does Scott have a RUclips? How does he drive stick? I am an a similar situation. I've got an LS1 w/ automatic, would love to be able to go back to stick
The reason your spinning is prep.....when you were in Texas the strip was properly prepped, and your car was hooking. When you go to these test & tune events, lots of people are running on street tires, which wears down the prep faster. Also if you have the stock front tires on, you should never drive through the water box. The treads on street tires will hold water and drag it up to the starting line. Instead go around the water box, back up into it, then pull up outside it and burnout there.
I'm thinking the reason your car went into "limp mode", was you had the RPM too high for too long staging with launch control.....in your first pass you only had it up for a second...… your second pass you did it for several seconds...…..I'd look for the first amber light after the tree starts dropping to rev it up with launch control on, and go on third light....your reaction time will greatly improve as well, if you leave when you see the 3rd amber light.
I said it when I heard they went with a DCT and I'll say it again. 'This will all end in tears.' Six or ten speed auto anyone? Watch and see.
Supercars use DCTs. It's all a matter of how it's put together and how aggressive the cooling is. Just as manuals span a wide range... so too do autos, DCTs included. Sounds to me like either a flakey sensor feeding the computer lies, or insufficient tranny fluid cooling from the factory for that kind of use. On a track you're getting gobs of airflow, not so much doing a largely stationary burnout on a transmission that is already at operating temp to start with.
So yeah, bigger cooler and/or more powerful fan. Might want to change the fluid while you're at it, bet that shit is expensive.
You need to learn when to leave the tree.
Can you ask your friend how he shifts a manual trans gt500? If he has a RUclips channel drop a link. Thx
Hey man unfortunately I'm not able to drive myself but I love to ride along! I'm not able to drive at all so it didn't make a difference if the car was stick or not.
Just cuz you can do 3200 RPM launch doesnt mean you should... My Durango SRT I used to think launched better at 3500 which is the max.... however I found that 2800 RPM was the best as far as no tire jumping and decent torque... With the cool weather and only having done 1 launch prior I still dont understand why the clutch got so hot already. This is where the Hellcats come into play with the race cooldown features that the Ford doesnt have.
The drag radials are probably putting more stress on the DCT during LC and tire warming.
When holding the car against the brakes & revving the engine, I would have thought the torque converter would be where the 'slip' is & not the transmission clutch(s) :-/ How about revving/holding the car in Neutral then switch to 'D' or 'S' at launch?
Such a nice well mannered kid.
I agree
Great content man really been enjoying the gt500 uploads keep it up maybe next time start with lower rpms like a previous person mentioned and work your way up from there
When you coming back to Fenton to pick up your GT with track pack?
Another great vid, great attitude also. Keep up the great content.
First guy to ever drag with business casual clothes on..lol
Looks like a Friday at the office
Love this video man! Keep em coming! I also love how friendly everyone is and helping you! Definitely do bigger burn outs to get those rears hot and sticky!
YOUR LEARNING MY FRIEND,PLEASE KEEP POSTING .THEASE ARE GREAT BITS OF INFO!AWSOME STANG..
Great video bro! Happy new year!
What does everybody think an aftermarket hardware and tune upgrade to that DCT is worth?
I knew I saw you there. I wish I could’ve seen you run. First off, beautiful car man. And second, the burn out was a little too long, try 6-7 seconds for nt05’s and with line lock just mash it don’t modulate the throttle. And try foot braking for launch, then try launch control, I would say start off at 1500 and work your way up from there. I think 1500-2000 will be your sweet spot until you get a smaller rim and a tire with a bigger sidewall ,then you can launch it harder at higher rpms ....
sounds like dual clutches should stay on the road course not the drag strip unfortunately, c8 owners will find that out too. You'll get 1 good pass before you have to stop. The zf 8 speed in the red eye/demon seem to fare the best to abuse and back to back passes. honorable mention: gm/ford 10 speed
That's crazy. Man. Sucks hopefully all is still good
Trans is the weak link going to need beefed up! Stock clutches slipping to much at stock power and to many fail safes vmp did a gt500 swap with a 6 speed behind it awesome!
14 deepblue gt500 The slip is engineered lol. It’s a feature to limit torque. That’s why the clutch got hot with the drag-radials. Couldn’t spin so needed more clutch ( 🔥) to get the rears loose.
@@TooManyChoices1 I Know this hopefully someone can tune that out of it it shouldn't slip at all waiting to see what the after market has for these transmissions the trans slipping is killing to 60 foot big time!
@Kong 76 I'm keeping my 14 till I see what these cars are truly all about after a few years if I like what I see maybe time for a upgrade I'm guessing a three year run so maybe a new 2022 if I like what I see
When doing your burnout's do you disengage your rear disc's?
Try bringing up the RPM in launch control after the first yellow light. Don’t hold it before that
Was that clutch smoke from the front?
GT500. Needs more manual. :o) Great vid dude. Congrats on 100K! I like your humble attitude. Respect.
Damn right it does! 👍🏼
Yep
Hope it’s not going to be too bad😬
Edit: Not the worst thing ever, just a malfunction you’ll be good the next time👍🏻 awesome content btw keep it coming.
I wonder what the clutch pack cost. may be a wear item like the brakes. I for one cant want to see where the power limit is on the motor and trans. if it turns out to be over 1000 whp it would be a sweet drivetrain swap in to my 2010 instead of a 20k build motor.
Well my friend, we did get a lot of attention with their knicker in a knot. Sounds like many dont like any advice who have a few experience. PS Do you have a double clutch or a DSG box in your motor
john kidd is this a computer generated comment HAHAHAH. It’s a dual clutch transmission not a double clutch one
@@Swagoi Do you know what a DSG box is
john kidd yes it’s a dual clutch design at the fly what has two shafts one internal and one external to allow the preselection of gears. Then the clutch is hydraulically clamped and engage and disengage to cause the gear change. Clutch pack 1 might be 1,3,5 and 7. Clutch pack 2 is 2,4,6
@@Swagoi Your are so right, dual clutch has the next gear selected, which changing faster
@@turbine6338 Yes. Very low gear to gear times
Congrats on 100k+ subs mate, cheers from Australia.
Keep em coming!!!
The manufacturers are pushing these muscle and sports cars to the max from the gate! Moving forward I truly believe that performance modifications will be a thing of the past unless you do a build from scratch... hence the reasoning behind voiding your warranty is in effect! Drive them and enjoy them for what they are not for what they might become!
Franklin Strong - good point! Exceeding limits (per the manual) and ignoring a warning ⚠️ could cause heat damage and warranty issues. Added mods to this car that would exceed mfg.limits may void warranty.
That overheated clutch happens to all the GT500s. I forgot what the remedy was.
You definitely don't come across like a typical Mustang owner. Seem like a nice respectful dude. Awesome car!