We NEED To Talk About Never Have I Ever (Season 2) *c'mon now devi*
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- Опубликовано: 16 июл 2024
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Hey Rummates, Never Have I Ever just came out with a second season and you KNOW we gotta talk about it!
0:00 Intro
1:33 Changes from Season 1
3:12 DEVI
5:12 ANEESA
6:41 CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT
10:42 THE FINALE
13:03 One Last Thing
14:20 Outro
#imuRgency #neverhaveiever #netflix
If you're reading this comment your thoughts on Devi
Devi's grandma was also a refreshing character. As Indians we are mostly fed toxic, unsupportive and evil mother in laws, but seeing Devi's grandma be so supportive of Nalini's relationship and her care and affection for Nalini was brilliantly portrayed.
YESS i hope she gets more lines next season
@@snarldip there’s a 3rd season?
@@lvhbs12 Not sure, but we hope.
@@lvhbs12 probably going to be one
I liked seeing both the grandmas because it's cool seeing how different they are, like almost polar opposites, and it makes sense too considering how different Devi's parents are (from what we know of her dad) it makes you understand more about why her mom is the way she is and her dad too.
Can we talk about how paxton's little sister TOLD HIM TF OFFFF i- ✋literally a queen😭
Yes, I love Rebecca, and she wasn't afraid to tell off Paxton for how much of an ass he was being. She's an unsung queen! 👑😍
Rebecca dragged him😭💀 a real wake up call
@@trinaq yessss if there is a season 3 i hope there is, i hope we see more of her iconic self😭
@@rebecca1331 yesss she literally dragged him through the dirt😭 we love an iconic queen💗
That was the best scene! Rebeca is one of the best characters frfr!
THE SCENE WHERE KAMALA GOES OFF AT THE LAB DUDE WAS LITERALLY THE BEST FUCKING SCENE IN THE SHOW
YEEESSSS its like shes possessed by devi or smth (in a good way tho) 💀💀💀
@@loliithaay I so wanted that dude to like trip and have a chemical fall on him or smth through the series but the insult was muchhhh better
Right. It was giving bad bitch. I didn't know Kamala had that in her. Especially watching her kiss up to Nalini (Devi's Mom) during Season 1. Turns out after Devi introduced her to Riverdale she had a huge change in attitude!
I feel like people dont talk about devis grandma enough because girl... she was so iconic
Wait this is so true!!!
YESS she needed more lines for sure
She really was such an underrated character!
Ikr! Sis was one of the best characters I loved her
When she slapped Devi with that soft ass slap, I yelled😭😂
Bro I hated how Paxton and everyone blamed her for getting hit by the car but he’s the one who walked into the street…
Exactly and then had Devi do his work and used that as an excuse for him to get anything he wanted
@Anaya Maxwell Yeah, me, too! It kind of reminds me of that scene from the movie “Mean Girls,” where everyone blamed Cady Heron for Regina George getting hit by a school bus.
@@shemforbes exactlyyy
Also like...... more objectively it's the driver's fault entirely? like wtf
@@rhean1768 I spent the whole season wondering what happened to the person who hit a child with their car in front of all these people
How is Devi the villain in her own story💀💀😹😹
Bro.. This comment is underrated...
So true!
As I am in mine 😁
self sabotage
I mean that’s the point of the story, I quite like how refreshing it is because unlike other shows where the main character is clearly flawed yet are treated like a saint within the show, at least Never Have I Ever is self aware and knows that Devi is the ‘bad guy’, thus making her fail and fail again yet grow as a person slowly but surely
I feel like if Devi had confessed to Aneesa IMMEDIATELY that day that she was the one who accidentally started the rumor Aneesa might’ve reconsidered the suspension. Cause the fact that Devi lied to her for days and then tried to pin it on another student makes it so much worse.
Yeah. The she should have just told her that she accidentally started it. The fact that she deliberately tried to hide this was what made the situation worse. There was no way that she would know about the anorexia. It was just a big coincidental misunderstanding.
i agree! it originally was a mistake but she SHOULD NOT have lied about it
The things is they’re trying to portray a real teen. And real teens make dumb decisions. Which I like. I don’t condone her behavior, but it’s a good way to portray teens now a days. People think they make mistakes that get resolved right away. It takes years for someone to properly change, especially someone like Davey, who clearly has anger issues. Personally I’ve never seen a realistic portrayal of someone with that personality. She’s also 16-17 and is figuring out life. She’s it meant to be a perfect “flawed” character. The one thing I like about this show is that she makes mistakes literally every episode.
Seriously. I liked this season a lot but I just don’t understand why that was drawn out like that. That whole storyline should have been 1-2 episodes TOPS, and it went on for like 4? (Including the apology craze) It just felt unnecessary to me 🤷🏾♀️
@@ABCD-vm1mx Devi isn't a realistic portrayal of an average teenager though, teens can be selfish assholes but the sheer extent of Devi's narcissism and lack of regard for other people's feelings is pathological and not normal. Especially not a character whose heart is supposed to be at the right place but Devi isn't only an inconsiderate adolescent she's often downright cruel and is incapable of seeing that until after the damage is done and everyone rightfully blames her.
as a queer, Indian, second generation American teen just the fact that Devi is the main character of the show is something i have never seen before in American media. This show is far from perfect, but i have to admit, there were moments where i could genuinely relate to Devi's experiences and it made me feel validated. Im glad they finally addressed some of her issues, but I am really rooting for Devi to become more self aware, less borderline toxic , and better at communicating how she feels. Im looking forward to your next video :)
Edit: i think it makes perfect sense if any middle eastern/south Asian person can appreciate Devi as a main character from a representation standpoint~
As an Indian I think the same too
as a pakistani i can relate too
Same except im sri lankan, and the actor is sri lankan which is the closest imma get for a while I think.
As a queer Indian teen as well, I couldn’t agree more :)
💯
I think it's quite refreshing for a South Asian woman to be selfish, messy and angry. Like you rarely ever see this depicted in western media. It's usually this polite demure character archetype and it's just not real. Heck, even Indian media it's rare to see.
YEAHH AGREED
Yes!!! That's what me love this show from the beginning!
yes it’s usually just this obedient “good” girl that doesn’t stand up for herself and just lets everybody treat her like shit. but it’s refreshing to see devi just be herself even with all of her very problematic flaws. this just looks more real.
Honestly a little messy is good, we're all human. But this is too messy
You probably already know about this, but I'd definitely suggest the Mindy Project (also Mindy Kaling)!
Can we talk about the casual cheating 💀💀💀Ben going to Kiss Devi while he was dating Shira in season one. Devi playing Paxton and Ben? Eleanor technically cheated on her other boyfriend with Malcolm when she kissed him before breaking it off with him. Like why is this so normal💀💀💀 and Paxton forgiving Devi for cheating😭 like everything was so wild and happened so quick, I almost forgot she like literally cheated on him. Also anyone excited to see where Trent and Eleanor go?
exactly everyone brushed it off like it was a normal thing for them 😭 and honestly i never saw trent and eleanor coming so i’m super excited to see where it goes
yess the way this season downplays cheating is very unsettling
I noticed with Netflix originals they live this trope of cheating and don't forget Kamila
yooo i forgot that ben cheated
BRO and then devi was upset that paxton didn’t wanna be seen with her because he was embarrassed that he still liked the girl who TWO-TIMED HIM and the whole school knows about it. and everyone was like “you deserve better devi, forget him” like uhh??? his feelings were pretty valid but he was still the one to apologize.
These first two seasons have taken place over less than a year and Devi is so young so there's only so much character development we can expect
good point!
I understand where you are coming from but they could have at least had some character development like Paxton in season 1 he was just a hot face and had no personality but in season 2 he decided to get his shit together and decided to go to college and he actually tried to work on school more but damm devi is the main character and they couldn’t even give her a small development
@@eujaydennis8026 She spent the better part of the season trying to atone the people she'd hurt. There's your small development.
I think it's pretty realistic that Devi is like really low on social and emotional skills because what trauma does is literally stunt you, especially when you're young because instead of developing your maturity normally you're like frozen in that mental space and you don't have enough energy/attention to grow and mature the same way as your non traumatized peers.
This comment makes me feel so seen
THIS!!! Devi is so problematic BUT she’s been through so much trauma and has struggled to work through it and so it’s understandable (not justifiable!) that she acts out and is selfish all the time
EXACTLY!
THIS is what people don’t consider enough when judging Devi.
I the the series will have have Davi grow as she works on her trauma.
I disagree, Devi did some shit, but the show KNOWS it and treats it like it's wrong, and she gets constantly punished for it. And her apologies really feel real and like she means it. These kinda of protagonists in the GriefCom genre are so real and refreshing....Reminded me of the character in Edge of Seventeen,where the main character does stupid stuff as a result of hurting, and later towards the end starts taking accountability.
Your comment properly sums up how I feel about her and how she is so real
And the comparison with edge of seventeen is great I never thought of that
Yeah to be honest I prefer main characters which aren't all perfect and actually mess up and make mistake and start making progress as it feels more relatable.
Thanks for your replies! I would like to add that grief stricken characters, especially in teenage years, often tend to tunnel vision their way to a goal and power through, and in that process, don't look left and right who their hurting, in their way. And once the damage is done, their still so subconsciously hurt that they can sometimes fail to empathise properly with anyone else. Which is why it takes Devi and (Edge of 17 protagonist) so long to figure out what they've done and why it's wrong. These characters are quite well written I feel!
Apologies feel real? How? The first time she apologised to Aneesha she embarrassed her in front of everyone and the second time she just explained why she just behaved like that. She didn't even say sorry the 2nd time, just "I felt threatened by you, so it's not entirely my fault"
@@whyisgamora4191 The "I feel threatened by you, so it's not entirely my fault" bit, I just don't see. We have multiple shots of Devi feeling terrible, we have McEnroe constantly voicing her true feeling, and she also admitted the truth to Aneesa because of her guilt. And we know from the series she loses control of her mouth when she's in a temper, so she says something she doesn't know is true. Idk. Read it how you will, man. I just gave my opinion. My point is, she acts before she thinks, and then realised the consequences.
this show was a typical cringey netflix original but still talked about real issues like coming out, the loss of a parent, sexism, racism, eating disorders, etc and i think that's what makes it special. devi's character felt so real and honestly, quite relatable i felt like i was watching myself through the screen at certain moments.
I felt like I was watching myself through many of these characters. The boy crazy when used to not being seen. Parents reminding you, "you don't really have many black friends," feeling bad when someone who looks like you comes around but wanting to still hang out with them, Paxton not feeling smart enough. This show is cringey, but there were many moments in here that got me reflecting that I'm not used to doing with these teen shows
How do you put relatable and typical cringey netflix original in the same paragraph?
@@kayla-rae4770 you just can. If it was cliche and relatable in the same sentence, I'd question that too
It also had a toxic controlling relationship and how their childhood attachments repeat into their relationships growing up!
I don't think it's cringey at all
In Season 3, Devi either needs to be alone and work on herself or get with a new guy because i think too much has happened with Ben and Paxton and she needs to start fresh with someone new
please not another guy for her to ditch her friends for
@@imuRgency LOLLL im dead
she needs to be by herself bc she thinks that a boyfriend and only a boyfriend will make her happy and I think that once she realizes that's bull she'd be a better person.
Devi X therapy is a good ship tbh she doesn’t take therapy seriously but she should XD
I honestly think she needs to remain SINGLE for the whole of season 3 and work on herself. And also I want some more episodes on the other characters lives I feel like that would be interesting.
I have THOUGHTS.
*Devi*: Extremely flawed but I feel like her character development will be a multi-season build up because she is the main character. Though she can be really self-centered, I think she focuses on trivial things to distract her from more important issues in her life. It's a defense mechanism, not a good one but that's the plot so...
*Paxton*: It's the character development for me. Damn, I was really team Ben but Paxton came through this time.
*Ben*: Meh. I don't like how he used Aneesa as a replacement for Devi then got mad when she moved on. Pick a struggle sir.
*Kamala*: Yassss, go on with your bad self. I loved to see her stand up for herself and represent WOC in stem and the struggle of breaking the glass ceiling.
*Nalini*: She really pissed me off this season. I get that she was struggling but the way she gaslit Devi in that one scene and called her crazy for thinking she was dating Common. I felt like that hurt me personally. But I'm trying to give her the benefit of the doubt because she is also struggling with loss and trying to raise Devi.
*Fabiola*: I wish they gave her more time to figure out what her identity was now that she came out. I feel like we didn't get to see enough of that.
*Eleanor*: I feel like they could have given her a better arc than making her subservient to a white man in an abusive relationship. Like she's better than that. I wanna see her acting and her career goals progress.
exactly my thoughts
Nailni and Devi both need to spend time together or in be in therapy together because after the Dad’d death they don’t really communicate or bond together if that make sense .
Ben will forever have my heart. But everything else you said....sure ig
I don’t think Ben “used” Anessa. He was trying to get over Devi as he thought she never loved him to begin with. The actor says Ben genuinely likes Aness, and I think he likes her too, also he probably unconsciously saw Devi in her. But the thing is she is not Devi and Ben realizes that as the season goes on too. He also realizes that loving someone and being compatible with them is not the same thing as liking someone. Hopefully, Devi will realize this too. I love both Paxton and Anessa, and wish happiness for them, but Ben and Devi are the soulmates.
Omg right Eleanor is so much better than that tbh that made me really mad because I’m glad that her best friends are also POCs but I feel like that are just there for show and Ik the show is mainly abt Devi but I want the show to to a bigger dive into Fabiolas and Eleanors life
Glad we got some paxton development but I do feel like they did Ben dirty this season. I thought his character last season was pretty interesting, the way he feels so lonely at home and interacting with Devi's family made him feel happy. Speaking of which, I like how in this season, no matter how angry he was with Devi he was still respectful to her family.
Yeah going after Aneesa was pretty immature but you can tell he only did it cuz devi hurt him so bad so I don't even blame him. I think it affected him way more than paxton but we just didn't get to see it much. I'm surprised he forgave her at all.
Basically season 1 was ben development, season 2 was paxton development and I can only hope that season 3 is devi development lmao cuz imo she doesn't deserve either of them right now.
But Idk going after Aneesa just bc of hurt still seems pretty bad. Like that makes it seems like he’s just using her and he’s gonna end up hurting her if their relationship wasn’t real. Kind of toxic. I would hope it’s just bc he liked Aneesa even tho it is pretty sus to move on so quickly
I never thought he was good especially for Devi especially when in the first season he called her crazy or something for paralysing herself and that’s the same thing she talked to her therapist about in this season so his comment affected her and also the UN thing was really rude
@@ericamunoz8725 I think he genuinely did like her and he was hoping if he focused on her then his feelings for Devi would go away. I don't think he's intentionally trying to hurt Aneesa (whereas Devi's thing was very intentional). Still hope he comes to his senses and doesnt drag Aneesa along
@@himanshisobti6937 Yeah but they both said really mean shit to each other to be honest. It was never one sided. Also she talked about it because everyone was calling her "crazy devi" and I think her last straw was when her own mother said it. It's clear that both of them use the rude comments as a defense mechanism. Ben should go to therapy too tbh. I'm not trying to defend his actions but I'm just saying we can't pretend like he's any worse than devi or even paxton for that matter.
I think he actually tried to deal with the situation as a mature person and get over Devi, and he genuinely liked Anessa. But Anessa is not Devi and liking is not the same thing as loving, and he starts to see this as the season goes on too.
I really liked how Paxton didn’t immediately want to publicly date Devi because of the whole two-timing thing. It makes the show feel more realistic and not rushed because they don’t just immediately have the characters forgive and forget the harm and pain that was done to them.
He actually didn't want to publicly date Devi from the beginning.
I mean….. Jarens acting in his face!?!!? Like the face he makes when he is hurt is the most heartbreaking thing in the whole series, and how he smiles when he’s happy is so genuine I can’t handle it
I disagree. I'm sorry. He just gets wide eyed and opens his mouth which is why I think they may have jumped the gun a little bit by promoting him to love interest.
I entirely agree! He's sad, so am I!
Whats a Jaren
Also I still love Ben and truly believe that he is like the only character who truly understands Devi. But Ben has been deprived of true care/love for ummm his whole life. His parents consistently choose their careers or their selfish ambitions over him, and he doesn’t have any true friends. So when Devi two timed him and then chased after Paxton, it was new trauma and childhood trauma wrapped up in one. Which doesn’t excuse his poor choice in getting with the only other Indian girl and Devi’s good friend, but explains it. I think ben needs a therapist too.
Also. This show really illustrates “high school relationships are stupid and most oftentimes problematic. You should just work on yourself and wait for a better person and a better time.”
He is annoying and really toxic I’ll be fine with them staying frenemies but a relationship would directly or indirectly affect Devi’s mental health
@@himanshisobti6937 I mean whether devi is with Ben or Paxton, in real life neither relationship would last. I think Ben and Devi would potentially last longer, but I mean yeah they are all just teens who are stupid and don’t understand themselves yet. I personally think a relationship with Ben and Devi would be more interesting and worthwhile🤷🏼♀️
@@ellentally3789 I never thought ben was good especially for Devi especially when in the first season he called her crazy or something for paralysing herself and that’s the same thing she talked to her therapist about in this season so his comment affected her and also the UN thing was really rude
@@himanshisobti6937 you’re just simply forgetting about the fact that Devi told Ben (who is Jewish) she wished hitler had killed them. They both were mean to the other because that was their relationshipppppp, it’s called an enemies to lover troupe for a reasonnnn.
@@ellentally3789 well but banter till a point is fine till it gets toxic and they aren’t good for each other
While I liked this season fine enough, I found myself more interested in Nalini and Kamala's stories than in Devi's relationship drama, or most of the teens' plots. I thought that Ben, Eleanor and especially Fabiola were quite underused, and hope that they'll get more focus in a potential Season 3.
I agree!! Especially Nalini and Kamala’s storyline lol. I’d watch a spin off just of Kamala tbh lol.
Love Nalini so much
Kamala's arch was definitely a high point this season, like I like the toxic teen drama but it was also kind of refreshing to see her becoming disinterested in a guy because of different world views and values even if he was perfect otherwise, it's like a way more normal and adult reason of breaking up, although her just up and leaving in the middle of a family dinner was weird lol she could just say she was leaving
Same I was cheering for the mom like yeah flirt get your man lol 😂
I loved Kamala and Nalini’s storylines so much
I just hate how Devi was so jealous of Aneesa for being another brown person in her school just because she wanted to be the only main Indian girl at her school but I'll personally would be happy if another girl that's the same colour as me would attend my school so that we can relate to the same things. I also dislike how Devi was also jealous at Aneesa for dating Ben when she LITERALLY was using him and Paxton at the same time so she doesn't even have the right to get frustrated at Aneesa when she had the chance to be with Ben but messed up at the end.
from season 1 i never liked devi cause of her jealousy, it makes her look extremely miserable and bitchy
Jealousy is something a lot of people struggle with, even if they don’t want to. I agree that it might be bitchy that Devi was jealous of Ben, but it is completely valid that she felt that. She was into them both, after all.
Well, i'm not a POC so I definitely cannot speak from experience, but I think I understand where Devi is coming from. Her whole high school she strived to be unique, popular and recognized, she wanted everyone to know and consider her so bad. And she figured her best asset for that was that she was the only brown girl in school, and she looked different. And it kinda gave her that main character, "i'm unique' confidence. I think deep down she pretty much assumed that no one would give her the time of day if she wasn't a POC. So when she saw aneesa arrive, she freaked out because suddenly, she wasn't unique. Suddenly, she wasn't the only brown girl and in her mind, the only thing that made her stand out was now more common.
I don’t think Devi was jealous because she wanted to be the only Indian girl at school. I think she was jealous because she thought her being an “unf**kable nerd” was due to her being Indian, but then another Indian girl shows up and is instantly popular. I think it threw her for a loop, especially because Devi seemed to distance from her heritage in season 1 thinking that it was the cause for her lack of coolness.
@@ines2fenoyl756 coming from a POC, you’re absolutely correct. her jealousy was not unfounded, especially when aneesa’s arrival and sudden popularity was proof of everything that went against devi’s concurrent belief system. she did see her race as the sole reason for her “nerd” reputation and then aneesa - as lovely and amazing a person as she is - her showing up posed a “threat” to devi because she was everything devi wanted to be but could never achieve.
Devi was really stressful this season. The way I clicked on this so fast !
the first 3 episodes really were giving me MAJOR anxiety like especially the party scene jesus i just could not handle it
@@cameerkat I skipped that part😭
Everyone needs to stop forgiving Devi so she can finally feel the consequences of her actions and grow
I agree. How many times can you do horrible things to your friends and expect I'm sorry to make it okay.
I think the more she messes up the lot what people call her out and refuse to give coddle her. I will say though that her friends telling her to go big with Aneesa wasn’t actually great advice. But I think her friends are showing her grace because they know that she is grieving and is trying.
Respectfully, I disagree. I don’t think Devi has been just easily forgiven. There hasn’t been a single mistake she’s made that’s gone without consequences. In season 1 when she didn’t make time for her friends, Fab and Eleanor stopped being her friends. In season 2 the two-timing situation fell back on her and she lost both boys. Yes, Paxton forgave her, but it took time and she went without him for multiple episodes’ time. Then with the rumor about Aneesa she owned up to it and got suspended from school. In the principal’s office, not even her mom tried to excuse her this time. No one has coddled Devi around her consequences, but she’s a grieving teenager who deserves grace.
Yes THIS 🙌🏾
Ok but they always hated on her and when her other friend betrayed them they where tryna get her back and if it would’ve been Devi they would’ve hated her
Just as I was having some hope for Devi she decided to have two boyfriends... girl we were rooting for you why do you never learn
Ditto, it was BOUND to fall apart sooner or later, since Ben and Paxton could easily find out about each other, since it's not that large of a school.
I was disappointed in her for a second and then I realized that that was my literal dream when I was 16 soooo
I’m glad they didn’t let the two-timing go on for the whole season because I was lowkey expecting that but I like the direction they went kinda
Well at least she became a better person in the end of S2 and tried her best to not mess up with anything
@@THEBATCAVE. I was thinking the same thing! I’m glad they didn’t drag it out because that would’ve been cliché. I like that they left room for more plotlines.
Imagine Devi and Ginny in the same room…that would be interesting
starcat I think they mean Ginny from Ginny and Georgia
@@dianarastegar5526 OOPS MB
People blaming the therapist for Devi’s behavior 🙄 You have to want to change. Tho expecting someone to change in a few months after she witnessed her fathers death and having anger issues. It’s just not realistic! I enjoy Mindy’s messy protags. I have lots of critique for the show but I like Devi needs a lot of work. Oh it’s beyond obvious she’s gonna end up with Ben in the end.
Well as a therapist the therapist does nothing to guide Devi to think or reflect on her behavior in any real meaningful way she basically acts as a moral compass by telling her this is the right thing to do without really discussing how to get her needs met in healthy ways. I feel like the writers have to make the therapist kinda bad to keep the show interesting
@@jessica2575 I disagree I think the therapist gave her good advice and try to talk some since into her but the therapist can only do so much she can’t make Devi change if she’s not waiting to devi don’t even listen to her therapist
Plus an actual good therapist isn’t gonna force u to progress, they r willing to help u through the process & try not to pressure u to change
@@saigie3908 but the therapist does help her but she just doesn’t open up which makes things more difficult and when devi said she needed a new therapist wasn’t a fair thing to say to someone who actually put in work to help
@@eujaydennis8026 Ma’am Ik the therapist helps 😃
The way I clicked so fast because let’s get into it 😭
FACTSSS
Devi is def messy, but that’s the point. She’s supposed to be an anti-hero. She grew a tinyyyyyyyyyy bitttt but not much. I think the more she actually deals with her trauma she will grow more.
Ya as a teenager she s bound to make mistakes
My only problem with this show (other than Darren Barnett being too old) is the use of Paxton's sister. I am so sick of people with disabilities being used to virtue signal like in this, Sierra Burgess, The Peanut Butter Falcon. Like "oh Paxton so hot and he's nice to his sister".... it feels lazy and exploitative. Give her a proper storyline or fully realised characterisation.
this !!
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like how she worked hard to get into fashion school and she has an ambition and talent. They should give her some more screen time. She also gives good advice.
@@sunnight8287 I would love a episode of her because she is more than a side character to me
yeah i would love to see an episode about her!! i like that she's really ambitious about her fashion school & she's quite a savage person lol
Unpopular opinion : i didn't want davi to end up with either of the boys. they make her toxic as hell . I feel like she's not ready for that , she needs to focus on herself and try to be the best version she can ever be and stay away from all the boy drama . I think that would've been a great ending 🤷🏻♀️
Yes
Wdym Ben literally brought the best out of her. that’s why he was so hurt after finding out devi cheated Paxton literally forgave her so quick cause he didn’t have that emotional attachment like Ben did. Paxton hid her so he would be known saying the annoying Devi or whatever
i personally don’t think they make her toxic but your opinion so 🤨🤷🏾♀️
i think she makes THEM toxic lmao. she was a whole cheater this entire szn
@@huh_rinii ikr
Feel like the Ben slander isn’t necessary lmao. We see bens character arc and how his parents never gave him any attention. His relationship with devi saved him from his loneliness and void in his life and when they began dating it meant everything to him. So of course when he found out Devi was also dating paxton at the same time he was upset. Not only by that, but because at the party she chased him, making her decision of who she cared for more. He then cut her off, reasonably so...and when aneesa came I feel like it was a ploy to make her jealous at first but ultimately they both actually liked each other. Overall Ben>>>Devi as a character and idk why you think he’s like the worst lmao. Idek if someone gonna read this
He literally broke up with Shria or whatever her name was to be with Devi like do people not see how much she means to her 🥺😭. Devi really made mad this season
Also he didn’t initiate the thing in the car. He had feelings for Devi, but he already accepted that she sees him as a friend after she rejected his kiss for the first time. He genuinely did all of that at the end of season just to help her and not lose a valuable person in his life. Devi was the one who kissed him, so he has every right to be mad when he found out she is cheating on him. From his point of view it’s horrible to lose not only a girlfriend, but a friend. I think that is the main reason why Ben is so hurt, not because he jealous of Paxton’s abs lmao. Paxton only decided to come to the dance and publicly show he likes Devi only AFTER counselor told him he needs Devi to get into college. I feel like a lot of people miss that part. I do think Paxton genuinely likes Devi, but I don’t think it’ll work in the long run as they are not compatible. Also every time someone else has to remind him about Devi for him to express a feeling, while Ben was so proud to be Devi’s boyfriend.
The actor who plays Ben said Ben genuinely liked Anessa and I think that is true too, but it’s not the same thing as loving. I think Ben was trying to get over Devi as a mature person and he confused liking someone with seeing someone else in them. As the season goes on he realizes how they are not compatible with Anessa, and I think this is something Devi will realize about Paxton in next season too.
I agree I think people are too hard on Ben unlike devi and Paxton Ben doesn't have loving parents or emotional support.He also has abandonment issues from his parents neglect.
BENS MY FAVE!!! I COMPLETELY AGREE!
I just love that John McEnroe is devi's inner voice! It is sooo random but it fits so well...every time someone mentions devi's anger management issues, i'm like that's the whole point of John McEnroe being her inner voice! I couldn't stop laughing when it was revealed on the first episode!
that part where he compared devi’s third times to a hummus platter at a grocery store LMFAOAOAO
Seems like an unpopular opinion but I actually think Devi really grew in this season. Yeah she was on her shit at first (the highest Devi-ing we've seen so far) but she really made a change in those last few episodes. Like rewatch just the last three and see the difference. She was making better choices, listening more and setting her priorities straight. I won't pretend she wasn't wilding out for more than half of the season but let's not ignore the growth either. I just hope it actually sticks.
I totally agree.
When you have so much room to grow sometimes it's hard to see minimal growth. Like Devi definitely grows some. But I think that the reason people can't see it is because she still does some really messy shit even to the last second of the least episode. But growth is growth and she's definitely changing.
Paxton’s toxic attitude towards Devi when he basically told her that he is embarrassed to be seen with her, was horrible.. I like them, but I don’t see a future for them..
They designed Paxton's character as a not so smart boy, like who would swim all the way to...ok thats beside the point. Paxton dont have the tendency to overthink, he just feel what he was supposed to feel at the moment, that was why he dashed off when he heard about Devi 2-timing him, that was also why he is always the first person to come to Devi's rescue, and seriously the best punishment he can think of, was merely asking a scholar to do extra homework. But thats also the beauty of Paxton - he was too simple minded to bear grudges. He is willing to forgive Devi time and again and genuinely cared for her. Whenever Devi was in trouble he helped her without 2nd thought. Ben on the other hand, was so sore about being Devi's 2nd choice, that he shut her out of his life the entire season. He happily moved on with Aneesa, all those making out sessions in front of Devi and ignoring her....until Aneesa screwed up the debate. So who is more toxic?
his feelings were literally valid tho,,, she literally cheated on him. why would he want to be seen out in public with the girl that two-timed him?
@@huh_rinii exactly
what? are you joking?? He literally cheated on her and later on, he got into a car accident and his chances to get a swimming scholarship got ruined. Why would he want to go out publicly with a girl who LIED to him and CHEATED too
@@fatoumatacisse3796 tbh i think paxton is very much concerned about what other people say instead of just doing what he wants. so when he said he was embarrassed to be with her in public i got that, but at the same time, then he shouldn’t be with her at all and shouldn’t treat her like this hidden hook up.
Also, Ben was hurt by Devi cheating a lot more than Paxton. Paxton was upset that she cheated on him but mainly because it was with Ben who he thinks is below him or something. Honestly Devi deserves better. Paxton is cool but he's so embarrassed of her and I did not like that. Ben is weird for dating Aneesa though. It was not cute.
Maybe but at the end or the season 2 he came to the dance with her in front of all his friends after SHE cheated on him and ruined his swimming career so it’s kind of understandable
@@kadyatoutoure7098 thats what I got when he first came to her. She cheated on him and part of ruining his chances for college, so yeah I get that he'll feel conflicted
I definitely agree about the Paxton thing but she did cheat on him I’d be pretty embarrassed too but he does seem to really like her if he gave her another chance after she cheated.
@@kadyatoutoure7098 agree
okay now i get what you mean but devi definitely does NOT deserve better
"the only thing Devi and Paxton have in common is that they're both really toxic..."
I SCREAMED HAHAHAHAHAH
Paxton in any case is not toxic.. He didn't for a single moment behaved rudely with devi.. He was always polite to her
Honestly we can critique this show all day if we want, like most shows, but I have to praise it for how watchable it is!!! Also it completely is unafraid to have a messy protag and really tackle some important issues whilst keeping its teen drama roots!!!
I also really liked how they acknowledged that a lot of people only see him for his looks and that the only thing that highlights him. I like that they moved passed that and focused on him as a person, not just Paxton h-y “the hottest kid in the valley”.
@MF - 08SR 765975 Sunny View MS
I think they said H-Y because that’s how he’s sometimes mentioned in the show
devi’s mom and the black doctor was the interracial relationship i was WAITING for and i was loving it while it lasted
on the topic of fabiola's relationship, i just wanna say that eve is not a good girlfriend. and sasha is a terrible friend as well.
sasha sucks eve not perfect but ion think she bad
@@yerrrrrrrr4567 she basically treats fabiola like a prop and only cares about them being the perfect lesbian couple instead of actually caring about their relationship. it’s incredibly toxic shit
The thing that pissed me off the most in the entire season was how Eleanor and Fabiola were supportive of Devi's decision to have two boyfriends and even helped her??? Like wtf????? Do none of them have a brain
They are Devi's friends right 🤷♀️
@@ayoogunsakin9223 a good friend would've stopped her from doing something that idiotic
@@jadexpy I'm saying that they're no smarter than Devi. They're the same age as her and would probably have made the same mistake she did.
I dislike her friends but especially Eleanor the most she annoys me like I wanna slap her and or curse her out a lot😭
I cried to so hard when Devi finally called Nalini the “best mom ever”. Never would have seen this coming last season
I want Devi to find someone who likes her from the start. Not this toxic he's mean to you because he likes you bs that Ben pulled in season 1 or I like you but no one can know Paxton bs. Someone who likes her vibrant personality and finds her desire to be cool endearing and thinks she's beautiful and brilliant. I like Devi because I understand her boy craziness. The first boy who gives you an ounce of attention when you've been disregarded and friendzoned, will make you a little crazy. As a dark-skinned Black woman who was only acknowledged when jokes were made about my skin or ugliness in high school, I get it.
no cause you ate that
Disagree with the Ben part. Sure he was mean but they were rivals and both equally mean to each other. So both Ben and Devi were pretty much equals when it came to being mean to each other. It was more a rivals to lovers than the "I'm mean but like you trope"
What I mean is that it's not like Devi was a victim. She was just as mean to him as he was to her
I do second the last half of your statement, however, I must point at that Ben and Devi were extremely overboard at times. . . but the majority of their collision was playful/witty banter. I semi-agree with the whole Paxton bit, although, his character growth is phenomenal in season 2. But I do agree that she should end up with someone else but also believe that ending up single or with Ben wouldn’t be bad (plus if Paxton shapes up his act even more, they could be a potential school match). But it’s not like whatever she chooses by the end of the series is what she’ll be stuck with for life. I personally agree with the actress Maitreyi and root for Team Devi!
*I like you but no one can know* from Paxton was VERY justified after what she did to him. Ben bullying her and mispronouncing her name to be quirky was not. Paxton came around because he realized she makes him want to do better so he wants to be with her, even if he has to take his friends judgy glares for taking her back.
This is long but I have a lot of thoughts. Firstly, I really don’t see how Paxton has become “better” this season. He was okay last season and I was rooting for him in the first half, but I seriously couldn’t stand him this season. Him blaming Devi for walking into the street, his monumental development being him picking up a book, blaming Devi for not doing well on a test that she gave him flashcards for and rightfully telling him he also needs to put in effort, still being embarrassed to have his friends seeing Devi next to him at the dance, and STILL needing outsiders telling him to go out with Devi. I also feel like some of the Ben slander is unwarranted. It’s understandable if you find aspects of his personality obnoxious, but I don’t think it’s fair to say it’s weird that he would date Aneesa. He was (is) obviously in love with Devi so the cheating hurt him a lot more than it hurt Paxton which is why it took him longer to forgive her. I don’t think he immediately wanted to date Aneesa as soon as she came, but she was the only other person who enjoyed being with him. And besides thinking that Devi no longer liked him and moved on, I don’t think it’s odd for him to ask Aneesa out. We also barely saw Ben this season but even then, he was trying to help Devi do better even when he was still mad at her. Some of his advice even paralleled what her dad tells her in her dreams. If anything, I feel like Ben’s small development this season was more interesting than Paxton’s bigger one.
Preachhh. Said it perfectly.
This just sounds like you’re team Ben 😂
@@stasi8622 I am. But some of these are thoughts I had even during the first part of season 1 when I was Team Paxton too.
@@ddj1456 yeah because it seems like you ignore the context of reasons why he reacted the way he did and give Ben a pass for his behavior even though it’s rooted from the same reason 😂
@@stasi8622 When did Ben reject Devi in public and apologize in private? What third party had to tell Ben to like or acknowledge Devi? Paxton can sympathize but not empathize with Devi. We have not seen Paxton reconcile Devi's relationship with anyone, or care to even try connecting with her friends or family in both seasons. He has never even told his friends to treat her better in both seasons. He coined " crazy Devi ".He seemed more mad about who Devi cheated with as an ego thing than the fact that she cheated. And he forgave her sooner because a need he had for his grades forced him to talk to her sooner. Save for distract her as her crush I struggle to see how he improved her or her life in any way.
I’m so glad you covered this show!!! I have a theory that tv shows now a days like to give us extremely frustrating main characters because it keeps people watching. Whether it’s Grownish, Ginny and Georgia or Never Have I ever…they love to give us main characters that make you wanna pull your hair out because their choices💀😭. Also can we please talk about how they love to include infidelity in these shows🥴 why are they always cheating on someone and it’s so casually just put in there like it’s nothing lmao. I do agree this season gave more clarity to why she acts the way she does. She definitely has much more justification than most characters. But I hope season 3…we finally get some character growth from her. I also hope her mom finds love 🥲 *cough cough* I wanna see common again
THANK YOU for pointing out how ridiculous it is that Paxton was blaming Devi for him getting hit by a car. I thought that was so fucking stupid. Like, would that not be the DRIVER's fault? Did the driver not come and say "dude are you okay? I'm so sorry! Let's get you to a hospital!" And Paxton just gets up to say "Nah nah don't worry about it it's all HER FAULT!" *points at Devi* gimme a fucking break
I was confused about that too like don't get me wrong, what she did to the guys was completely awful and immoral but blaming her for his injury? Like sir, you look both ways when you cross the street and yeah, technically the driver would be at fault
They acted like she shoved him onto the street
@@sabahk not technically yo, the driver would LITERALLY be at fault. that's how accidents work. and the reason this bothers me so much is because Paxton and basically even the narrator of the show is saying it's Devi's fault and all throughout the season Devi is doing Paxton these school favors because of it and it's all just so ridiculous. Eventually Devi flips out on Paxton for it but that's only because she was going through something else right at that moment
@@FaZaFurhod I mean yes legally it is the drivers fault but I'd give some fault to paxton for just rushing out into the street.
But yeah there's no scenario where it's devi's fault and it definitely bothered me.
@@sabahk oh okay. Sorry I just didn't know what you meant when you said 'technically' there. But you're right, and I agree. Paxton's injury is because of him and the driver. That's it. The thing Devi is guilty of in this scenario is cheating.
@@sabahk I think he was just really mad because of her cheating so he just blamed her like that even though she didn't really cause his accident
My ideal ending would be Davi ending up with neither of them honestly
I feel like it isn’t talk about enough how he’s says it’s “our channel” I LOVE IT 🥲
Sir I've been waiting for this all day😭😭
well its here now!!!
what i dont get its how some of yall expect her to be perfect, and are disappointed with the lack of 'character development'. like that would be great but i mean she is a teenager dealing w a traumatic event. she is going to make questionable decisions and be annoying most of the time, also is a show. she IS messy but very entertaining lmao
This!
I agree that she's allowed to be human and messy. What I don't like is when the show lets her off from dealing with the consequences in a realistic manner, like Aneesa forgiving her after such a huge betrayal and the boys eventually forgiving her for two timing them and both continuing to be attracted to her. In real life, Devi would have lost all three of those relationships permanently or had to work much harder to get them back
@@Ru136 100%
Ok there is this one scene tho where Devi was genuinely the victim but not for the reasons that the show claimed that I'm kind of mad about...
I'm talking about when she confronted her mom on that date with the other dermatologist. Her mom literally lied and told Devi that it was a work thing when it really was a date. To make things worse, her mom even called Devi crazy which sent her into this whole spiral of self-doubt and insecurity. I wish that was discussed a little more because that was literally gaslighting, clear and simple.
But her mom didn’t call her crazy tho, she said that what she did was crazy. Which might not be the best way to describe what she did considering that Devi is still grieving and stuff but it was kind of crazy
@@ambre4144 That's not really a distinction that would matter to a teenage girl or change the way she took it tho. Besides, there's a difference between thinking you overreacted to your mom dating vs overreacting to your own baseless suspicions. To make Devi think she was paranoid on top of unreasonable just didn't sit right with me
Honestly I LOVE how flawed Devi is! I think a lot of us didn’t know how to be good people or make good decisions when in high school so I find it so funny to see how she isn’t the perfect main character and isn’t someone you would want to be. I don’t know why but I find that really interesting
Yeah dont most people cringe at their young teenage old selves?
People need to talk about Paxton’s sister! She is a queen I love all of her clothing designs too.
The speed with which I clicked on this is shameful--
LMAO and I love you for it!
Paxton went from a weirdly pretty McMuffin to a whole ass person, that whole development of his identity and being a better and deeper person. I was so here for it!
yessss i'm so ready for this one! devi stressed me out this season 😂.
i could really relate to devi, i saw myself from years ago in her the self destructive behavior and continuous fuckin up. Well i didnt go to the extent she went but the mental battle and not being able to stop it… i could really relate so i found it very relatable i even cried once cause of how much i could find myself in her situation and state of mind
devi IS CRAZY idc😭😭 ik it’s hard to hear but she does some crazzzyyy stuff💀
What she did to Aneesa😭✋🏾 oh no!
I was so proud of Paxton this season! He became my favorite character! I used to like Trent but this season he got on my nerves 😭
Same! I feel like next season he’ll be interesting bc of the whole him and Eleanor thing towards the end (which I’m confused by…but intrigued lol).
@@rebecca1331 Ngl, Trent looked really good on the last episode lol and I feel like Eleanor might bring out a different side of him and he might be able to bring Eleanor down from the clouds lol
Nah, Trent is still my boi. Love love love him. So hilarious! (Paxton is also cool tho)
There’s a lot of karmic cycling in these show. Like how in Season 1, Ben is looking at Paxton and thinking about Devi’s and Paxton’s relationship when Paxton turns around and asks him, “You good bro?” In season 2, Paxton sees Ben in a classroom and he thinks about Devi’s interest in Ben and Ben notices him and asks, “You good bro?” I love how the writers tie back those little instances to show the connection between these scenes and I hope they do it more in the next season.
Unpopular opinions for NHIE s2:
I feel like the only stable and healthy relationship in this show is Fabiola and Eve
I did like Eleanor's bf at first, but then he started being manipulative
Kamala is the underrated queen we all deserve
Aneesa was such a nice addition
I agree with all of your opinions! Fabiola and Eve are a cute couple, and I wish that they got more screentime. Kamala is also a fabulous queen, and I loved how she stood up for herself against her fiancé.
out of all the couples in the show, Fabiola and Eve are definitely the most healthy and I absolutely love them, but personally it bothered me a little bit how when Eve's friend(I believe her name was Sasha) kept mocking Fabiola, and Eve didn't do anything about it until the finale when she said she loved her even if she wasn't "cool"
@@ari_zona0 yeah, we do NOT stan Sasha here
@@ari_zona0 YEAH omg. if you’ve watched love victor, (spoilers ahead!!) it was kinda the same as when benji’s friends made fun of victor, and benji also didn’t do anything. Come on people, stand up for your s/o pls
@@misojimo2154 I haven’t and I wasn’t planning on watching it but I heard that it’s good so should I?
Also agreed😊
One thing that stood out to me was how Devi gave advice to Kamala. While Devi has anger issues that she has problems controlling, anger also can be a useful tool to give the drive to fight against injustice, and that's just how Kamala uses it in the end. It reminds me of a book by Gandhis grandson called "The Gift of Anger".
I actually think that Devi as a character is really three dimensional. Devi has some narcissistic traits there (which does not necessarily mean she's evil, just a little self-centered and problematic) and I would love to see how this realistically evolves over time. I would never see her become a goody two shoes, but I think for her to grow she has to learn that her superficial needs for boyfriends and validation mask some deeper rooted issues and needs. Also, that she has to behave a certain way if she wants to be accepted socially.
What I really hated was the whole love triangle trope. Like, come on, it's so overused and kinda cringy. We know how this ends, we've seen it enough times. Also, one of the most unpopular girls suddenly has two admirers. Yeah, sure.
Paxtons arc I actually did like a lot, and at some point I thought he was more friendly than Ben. Even when he's wronged he values friendship, that was already shown in season one. Ben on the other hand is just petty. But Paxton ending up with Devi? They don't fit at all. They could've just stayed friends, or friends with benefits, whatever.
I hope for the next season that it will recycle less common tropes.
I somehow managed to finish S2 and I’m genuinely surprised that I did. In my opinion Devi should’ve ended up with Ben (not that she deserved Ben or Paxton 🤷🏾♀️). Her chemistry with Paxton is forced. I liked her take on double standards regarding two timing but that in no way shape or form does it excuse what she did. Her in ability to not be selfish and have regards for others wellbeing apart from her own it’s what constantly gets her into stupid shit and it’s what’s most unattractive about her. Also Kamala was a literal queen during this season.
I do think she should've picked Ben. Look at the pros and cons list it made me come to a conclusion with how Devi sees the two of them. Paxton didn't really treat Devi like a girlfriend because 1. He brought his friends to a date 2. I do think he is embarrassed to be with her 3. He climbed up her window and had her thinking that they were good and they were going to be together fr 4. He said "either her do it privately or not at all" which is a red flag to me.
@@cuzimblk5719 1. Paxton said he invited his friends on all his dates. 2. He explained he couldn't date her publicly because she humiliated him in front of everyone at the party. He publicly dated her before that.
@@cuzimblk5719 she cheated on him and humiliated him why would he want to be seen with someone who lied and hurt him
@@raisaa1537 1. I could've sworn he said that afterward the date but I could be wrong. He still shouldn't be bringing them to his dates 2. He shouldn't have entertained her (She was definitely wrong for juggling two boys, but Paxton shouldn't have entertained her and wasted both if their times).
@@fatoumatacisse3796 Why would he entertained her a second time tho and waste his time?
I think the biggest flaw of this show's storyline is that the love triangle gives 2 great ships. Both Devi+Paxton and Devi+Ben are great couples with fans rooting for them. And so whoever becomes endgame, it's gonna leave people divided and disappointed. So, I think the only thing the show can do is not make her end up with any of them and go off to work on herself. It'll be bittersweet to see that but that's the only logical ending to her storyline I can see.
devi being problematic is a key element in the show but i hope that next season starts having devi focus and be okay with being alone, like all of these emotional ties when she’s so haywire is not good for her!
8:55 See I literally shouted at the screen “You don’t know how to look both way ways before crossing the street but Iiiii’m the reason you can’t get into college!???? Okay!” Because that would have been my ONLY response if he had said that to me.
Kamala’s fiancé is your typical “nice guy” who’s no better than the rest of them in my opinion. Just because a man is good looking and charming doesn’t mean they don’t have pretty bad views about women.
She ain't a good person either like she was secret dating a guy because she was being matched, but once she found out the Indian guy was hot she dropped the white guy. Now all of a sudden her Indian boyfriend says one thing and she already wants to cheat on him
How did he have bad views on women???
@@mewesquirrel6720 Her first boyfriend was also Asian ...
@@alannac.7392 nope he was white. They went to school or something together
@@mewesquirrel6720 he was Asian?
I feel like the show has been focusing so hard on Devi's strained relationships to the point where what really needs to be addressed is being completely swept under the rug: her trauma with her father. The way she's coping with that trauma and avoiding it with reckless and risque behavior NEEDS to be a topic, since it's a huge part in what makes her a horrible friend/daughter/girlfriend to begin with. Her therapist is really the only person in her life that presses to address it. I really thought with the whole voicemail bit they were going to touch up on how Devi's need for male validity and attention (as seen many times in the first and second seasons) perhaps stems from losing her father. He played a major role in reinforcing her self confidence and rational-thinking skills growing up since Nalani was absent being the family's breadwinner. And even with extremely supportive friends like Fabiola and Eleanor, the absence of Mohan has clearly left an void where she makes Ben and Paxton (knowingly or not) fill in for comfort. I liked the whole dream bit where Mohan comes and lets her know she's more than just a secret lover to Paxton and she deserves to be loved openly, but I wish it pushed more in a direction where it stressed Devi doesn't NEED romantic love to begin with and she needs to nuture herself and the people who DO care for her.
i loooove how messy devi is. it makes for such an interesting character. she's just great. i'm definitely a devi apologist.
i also loved paxton this season. bc when do you ever have teen drama's where actual schoolwork becomes integral to the character's arc? i think his character is very refreshing bc he seems very surface level dumb jock but there's sm more to him. he pretends to care about popularity when he really just uses it to hide how insecure he is about not being smart. and he never learned to be anything more than just a pretty face bc not even his parents expected more from him. idk i think it's just very interesting.
aneesa was great and she deserves sm better. devi did her wrong and ben... don't even start me on ben bc why does he treat his girlfriends so poorly?? he literally forgets their entire existence. yeah she deserves better.
and i personally love devi and paxton together but yeah i agree that it feels like it won't last especially with that ending... but i do think that while devi just likes attention she's always kind of chosen paxton over ben which i didn't notice at first and only realized when someone pointed it out in a comment:
season 1 it's very clear. then this season she agrees to a relationship with ben bc paxton "doesn't see her like that" but when he says that he does, she starts dating him even tho she's already in a relationship with ben. then she runs after him at the party and leaves ben. she rebuilds her relationship with paxton and doesn't chase after ben up until paxton friendzones her. but as soon as he knocks on her window, ben's out again. and then she only gives ben attention when paxton doesn't give her what she wants from him but as soon as he does ben falls to the sidelines again.
with eleanor's speech i do see the set up for ben and devi again tho but this show and devi are so messy it could honestly switch up again. i mean this season things blew up so fast too...
I love the insight you gave me about Paxton's character. I never noticed that he was using popularity as a way to cover up his insecurities about not being smart.
Paxton doesn't really treat her well. He thinks he's better than her
As much as I loved all the other characters development, I really related the Paxton because that was basically me I was like always a dumb kid and it seems that I didn't get encouraged enough, it's more like people would scrutinized me for my own failures or make it seem like I was inherently a failure in however, Paxton actually figuring out and working hard towards his education felt like my whole life flashed before my eyes.
I wish they talked a little bit more about how Elanor was dealing with her mom leaving again
I am still team Ben cause they actually have more than just “chemistry”
So truee
yeah thats true
She’ll probably cheat on him again 🥰
i can only repeat myself - devi being "problematically flawed" is what makes her so relatable to me.
everyone has flaws, we're all human, blah, blah, but in the end the main character is usually still super pretty, has flaws that are in one way or form (considered!) their fault or whatever makes them oh so human is actually not that big a deal. that's easy, you can more easily justify if that character screws up, more people can relate to that because you basically have the average person, they're more _likeable_ to the majority of the audience and so on. not so easy when a character 1) really _really_ or 2) constantly screws up.
now, you say devi offers a bunch of weak apologies to the people she hurt - that just adds to her "problematic" personality, she screws up big time and then doesn't know how to fix it. doesn't mean she's not genuinely sorry or she doesn't care because she clearly does.
many people are so understanding with mental illness (which is (almost) ALWAYS a flaw, a problem... just most of the time for only _one_ person), but as soon as it's "problematic" for yourself (as a mentally healthy person)... they should go see a therapist or keep it together while with others. it doesn't work like that. the whole point is that you don't have much control over what you're doing and only after realize the shit you've done.
it's shitty for EVERYONE involved, i know that mental illness is not an excuse, simply an explanation, but as you can see here, no one cares about that anyway - all they see is problematic behavior when that's by far not all a person is.
I was happy that Devi finally asked about why she was paralyzed. I also liked how they explained it.
The fact that I just finished your other Never Have I Ever video and subscribed.
Same here haha
I been waiting for this one 🥳🥳🥳
I feel like Devi was even more childish in the second season than in the first. And honestly I hoped for her to end up with anyone other than Paxton. He might have developed a little bit but to me he is still very toxic and not trustworthy so i'm team Ben all the way, even though he has his flaws. In my opinion Kamala had the most interesting story and I LOVED how she didn't let people disrespect her even after her boyfriend told her to just ignore it.
My thoughts exactly
100% agree with you. Paxton's characterization made me like him better, but I still don't think his relationship with Devi is good. Ben and Devi at least challenge each other in good ways and generally seem to get along better when Devi isn't being awful. First and foremost Devi needs to focus on herself before Ben but I'm still rooting for them whenever the Series Finale happens 😩
I never thought ben was good especially for Devi especially when in the first season he called her crazy or something for paralysing herself and that’s the same thing she talked to her therapist about in this season so his comment affected her and also the UN thing was really rude
Whereas Paxton didn’t know about her existence to hurt and her and when he did know about her he only hurt her once at the end of second season that too with a good reason that he told her. So I’m team Paxton
Yes absolutely! Also Paxton treats her so bad. He still seemed embarrassed by being seen with her at the dance. Paxton is just not worth it
You are team Ben and you have the nerve to call Paxton toxic???? Girl 💀💀💀
I like how they portrayed Devi’s character. Asian women are usually stereotyped as being too passive
I liked Anessa alot because of her anorexia storyline since I also have it.
I'm sorry to hear that you have anorexia:( Bodies come in all shapes and you should certainly love yourself as you are! To quote Bruno Mars and Lady Gaga together: you're perfect just the way you are, because you were born this way baby!
I'm also sending you positive energy and encourage you to talk about it with your friends and/or family, or even to call resources out there for people having anorexia so you can have all the help you deserve to get through it💕
@@jenniferlachance5844 thank you so much, I appreciate your words.
I just wanted to tell you that you are beautiful the way you are and you don’t need to change yourself. I hope that you can get through it and I’m sending you lots of love and support. I don’t know much about dealing with EDs but I’d suggest talking with someone you trust or calling one of the helplines. I hope you get through it soon. Have a wonderful day
@@luuuuux_ thank you so much
@@ani.mp3 thank you, I’m slowly trying to work towards recovery.
can we talk about how Paxton let Devi lie on his name spread rumors about him and her and then two timing him and he still wanted to be with her lmao if I was him this girl would never ever see me again is he not embarrazzed
it's tv. It's not supposed to be realistic
@@raisaa1537 out here acting like people don't make crazy *ss decisions like this in real life 👀💀
I mean that’s why he didn’t want their relationship to be public until the finale,the dude is rightfully embarrassed tbh
@@raisaa1537 sure, but if the writing breaks suspension of disbelief the TV show probably isn’t doing a good job at telling an engaging story
lmfaoooo the way i was like i hope he talks about season 2
I was just watching a video about astrology signs, and hearing you talk about Davi reminded me so much of Ares' traits
devi is still my girl despite being quite possibly the messiest tv character in existence! like yessss always make the wrong choice and never use rational, sound logic!
I really enjoyed this show but at some point I could not stop thinking about how old some of these “teenagers” look especially Paxton and Shira. I mean, if you’re gonna hire a bunch of adults to play teens at least make them all adults so that I don’t feel weird watching 18 yr old Devi make out with 30 yr old Paxton😐 like a year before that she was straight up considered a child and that’s kind of messed up to me
I feel awkward seeing them making out or kiss , I just have to cover my eyes with my hands causseee there's no way I'm watching this 😬😬
yeah why do they always have these big age gaps. Its so weird
Yes! I also noticed the car parallel. Hope Davi grows much more as a person in the next season
omg this upload made me so happy, i’ve been waiting for this one! :D
I still really like Deevi as a character. It's rare that you get a female *protagonist* with anger issues and the space to discuss and deal with them. It's very interesting.
Were y'all not emotionally out of control teenager? No? Just me? Aight. Those years were meeeeessy
No I'm with you 😂 I was awful. I usually say I turned into a person at like 17/18. Before that I was something else idk what but it was bad
God I'm still a bad teenager tbh
i just found your season 1 review video and saw you posted this 4 hours ago. ty universe ❤️
the rangeeeeeee rumi has in vids is everything go bestie
lemme just say that the therapy scene with devi was the best scene in the entire series!! it was so impactful and really well done. i cried so hard lmaoo
IVE BEEN WAITIN FOR THIS ONE
TURN IT UP
Ahhhh I’m so excited for this video😭😭
YES IVE BEEN WAITING FOR YOU TO TALK ABOUT SEASON 2
I do like Devi, I'M SO SORRY!! Hahaha. It's just that she is a relatable character and also is perfectly written. She's a teen girl, she's suffering from depression and anxiety and we shouldn't expect less from a girl in her situation. Depression in teenagehood is not the same as with adults, actually, teens tend more to irritability, violent behaviour and so on. It may seem a small issue for you, but it's hard for them to answer otherwise.
I like that this serie represents teens as that and not young adults.
BTW, I'm studying for psychology if u ask.
6:16 imo the weird thing isn't Ben being interested in aneesa is her being interested back?? Like she is new, pretty, and nice, gets along with anyone immediately, this is high school lol everyone would be interested in her, but why would SHE go for Ben, there's probably a ton cuter boys interested in her, isn't Ben generally known to be unlikable and uncool in this high school??? No shade to Ben's actor I think he's attractive just in the world of this show his character isn't high on anyone's list.
Cause she got along better with Ben and had more in common with him
@@nthabisengmolefe9868 they actually had very little in common, we see Ben becoming disenchanted with Aneesa because of that. He’s all into school and studying hard and Aneesa is very disinterested in that. They have banter but Aneesa had banter with like everyone so... them being together is really only for the plot of Devi being jealous of Aneesa, because it doesn’t really make sense otherwise.
you SPILLED. i’m glad you made this
I agree with so many of the points you made - it’s especially hard for me to watch how toxic Devi can be to her friends but I’m really rooting for s3 being dedicated to her figuring herself out and learning what it means to be *there* for the people in her life, like how her dad apologized to her mom. What I personally love about this show is the depiction of anger as a result of trauma/mental health. I know for me my depression/anxiety more often then not expresses itself as anger and frustration and I talk it out on ppl without meaning to. and bc of that, I see so much of myself in Devi. When we talk about depression or anxiety, people think about apathy, low self esteem, low energy, panic attacks, etc. which are all very important but anger isn’t necessarily the first thing discussed. And I love that it’s something depicted often in the show bc it’s genuine and illustrates that mental health is so complex. I just feel so seen, also bc of her relationship with her mother. It hits so deep 😭