Period me too, and they never even said a sincere sorry and made it up to her. Just bought her make up and acted like it's all good But should've even confessed to the mom
“MANG” is like the worst friend group I’ve ever seen they don’t understand each other and they just don’t talk about their real problems like they just can’t communicate with each other
OMG that one time when they were confronting each other and then just like ignored their problems and laughed it off like no wonder their friend group ended as quick as it started 💀
The fact that she was basically gossiping about it with her friends weirded me out so much. Throughout the season, she was constantly uncovering her mother's secrets and acting on the knowledge without actually taking to time to learn WHY her mother was keeping those secrets. Her mother never mails Austin's letters to his FELON father, has a jacket from a biker gang and owns multiple guns, and all Ginny does is complain that these secrets affect her, gossiping about it with friends without really bothering to look for what the secrets are or why they're secret in the first place.
Fr she is always asking her mom not show up so she doesn’t get the attention ‘drawn to her’ but then proceeds to tell them about how her mom has a gun and pulled out on her. She says how much she hates her mom and how she would rather ‘die’ then become her mom when she’s becoming worse than her mom when she lies for no absolute reason.While her mom lies for Ginnys Safety and her mental health
Honestly that shit pissed me off so much like also why would you be gossiping about shit like that?? Idk about anyone else but if some random ass bitch started talking about her mom owning a gun I would avoid them like the plague like ofc Norah was gonna tell her mom
When I saw the black characters I thought they weren’t gonna accept Ginny and that would be the narrative, but Ginny literally blew them all off when they were being so welcoming then complained she wasn’t accepted with black kids
She complains about not being accepted or understood because she doesn’t typically connect with black culture and leans the other way, I think she felt intimidated. I think she’s the type of person that would’ve gone with them had they pushed as hard as max did and been the only people that did so
@Caitlyn Wiafe that’s what happens when you only have a white parent in your life smh it’s very crucial to have both parents in your life especially if you two different races cuz each race has a different experience and that parent should help their child understand that
She literally chose the most TOXIC friend group and then wondered why they stayed having problems lmao. Everybody’s issue in this show was putting up a facade and not facing how they felt until it bottled up and came out as either a fight or a murder 💀 clearly there’s no good therapists in that town not even Abby’s parents 😭
@@ducklingscap897 how exactly was she toxic though? She may have not been the most stable parent but I don't really see how she was self absorbed or toxic?
Hunter was def cringe, but I never hated him. He’s a genuinely nice guy who never pressured or purposefully stressed out Ginny. Everyone’s hating on him for the racist remarks he made towards her, but everyone conveniently forgets that Ginny literally instigated that whole argument? Saying that Hunter wasn’t Asian enough/ even she was more Asian than him and that his struggles weren’t comparable to hers... overall, this show is just veryyy irresponsible...
His comments were a rebuttal--they weren't his actual thoughts he was just giving Ginny the same energy she gave him with the whole "I speak more mandarin than you" "you're basically white" bs.
Tbh I think I dislike the audience more than the show, they hate on Hunter for such stupid reasons and love Marcus despite him being lowkey problematic
@@khezya9491 RIGHTT they’re like “I’d rather have somebody who stalks me, breaks into my room, and disrespects my privacy over someone who is cringe” like ARE YOU OKAY-
I hate the part where all the non black ppl stopped being friends with her so she came to the black table and they made it seem like she didn’t fit in with the black kids but they were talking about senior things and she was a sophomore so of course she won’t really understand 🙄
She rlly should've sat alone. U weren't interested before but now that ur on ur own, u wanna go running to the black ppl? Netflix rlly made it seem like she couldn't be in more than one friendship group
I actually think that was a nice touch because she joins the 'black' table as if it's that easy to find a place to belong, but it would have been reductive to the black characters, reducing them to their skin color as if that's their entire identity. Showing they have interests different from her own, including different plans for their futures, really shows how small and limiting Ginny's desperation to fit in in high school is. She doesn't actually have a clue of what her interests are or what she wants to do in the future, but she resents her mom for not pushing her to take extracurriculors because that just what all her friends have been doing. It's about fitting in, not about having her own life.
Literally! Like the Black characters were literally just meant to be Black. I’m mixed and it in no way represents any interactions I’ve had with Black people. Honestly so tokenizing.
@@marielaberge8236 I mean I guess but I think they put it in to make an example of the reason why she says, “ I’m too black for the white kids and I’m too white for the black kids” even though that wasn’t the case....
the black kids that ginny sat at the table of in that one episode felt infinitely more like actual people that would be nice to hang out with while MANG was insufferable
i hate how everything wrong with this show could literally be solved with a long conversation, like how in the end when marcus said that it was a mistake to sleep with ginny, and she got all hurt, he was literally protecting her and stuff so like that was dumb and then max getting mad for like no reason, literally all of this is none of their buisness
Ok but Ginny is hella shallow for getting mad at Marcus for that...CLEARY it was to foreshadow the fact that the whole thing even happened and to make it seem like it was no big deal
I didn’t understand why Ginny even stayed in the “Mang” friend group after the shop lifting. Abby pretty much had it out for her the entire show and Ginny was so worried ab fitting in... she really irritated me
I think she still tried to fit it in bc she has never had friends before and max was the first person who was nice to her when she came to the new school. Ginny doesn‘t really know how friendships are supposed to be but she doesn‘t want to be lonely again, so she tries to fit in
@@mytb1420 If you grew up with a self absorbed very toxic mother, a dad that keeps leaving, always have a new parent and keep moving you'd have problems too. Nothing was stable for her. Her life is always changing and she's constantly hurting. The system sucks but I wonder if it would have been better for Ginny and Austin to land there instead with an abusive mother.
@@ducklingscap897 sorry but how is Georgia toxic and abusive? Serious question especially in terms with her kids. She’s not self absorbed with herself as 90% of what she’s done and endured are for her kids to have a better life she never physically assaulted them until Ginny said some shit and she hadn’t talked to them is a disgusting condescending manner until Ginny again said some rude shit and was doing foolishness. Ginny was given a silver spoon and a mother that supported her with everything and instead of being a little grateful she misused her and blamed everything bad thing in the world on her. Ginnys only issue is not begin able to stay in one town for the rest of her life as they keep moving as well as her social skills and friends otherwise her life was stable. And next thing she is okay with her dad living with them and wanting to live with her mom but tells him that she is in the happiest stage of her life and so he shouldn’t ruin it but blames her mom after her dad chooses to leave. What does she want?
Honestly! And black ppl are not that pressed over mix ppl “choosing a side”.. I as a black person would literally walk past a mix person without a thought of “they’re too white/black” like we rlly don’t care😭
@@eunowhowitis3547 no exactly! Like don’t get me wrong I’m sure mixed people have their own struggles and they should be allowed to express it. But not every black person is going around mixed kids and ridiculing them for not being black enough. Shii I’m black and I would dress up as Britney Spears too😂😂. She also had both parents in her life black and white.
@@eunowhowitis3547 haha, maybe that's not what you're thinking but there are definitely people who have said things of that sort. mostly, it's if the conversation is started. like, if someone mentions politics and an entire debate begins. that's how it usually happens. however, as for ginny, she rarely spoke to black people and her friends were never especially rude about her race, though they were ignorant.
Yeah I just didn't like that she was obviously a self absorbed, toxic and sometimes even abusive parent and the show tried to make her look good. Romanticizing that is just fucked up.
@@ducklingscap897 I don’t agree, she tried her absolute best. Can you explain to me how she was toxic? I’ve seen you on a lot of Videos glorifying Ginny and hating Georgia so I just want your viewpoint
Idk why is everyone supporting a psychopath and serial killer. Yes, the husband was a pedo and assaulted Ginny but Georgia could have DIVORCED or called the police instead of killing him. It makes Georgia just as bad as Kenny. She is still money laundering and taking advantage of new people to get money. This isn't game of thrones so she has no reason to do this in the 21st century. She is a bad mom. Austin stabbed a kid and Ginny turned out to be a cheating liar just like Georgia. She and Ginny are toxic to each other and to other people. After all this, I strongly dislike Georgia more than Ginny. I hope Georgia ends up in prison for all her crimes because I can't find a reason to root for her by the end of the season 1.
Can't we just agree on the fact that Georgia and Joe are the best characters and the show should've been about them. Idgaf about Ginny and her teen drama crap i wanna see some murder, Georgia backstory, badass woman, and cute Joe goddam it EDIT: I FORGOT AUSTIN OMGG EDIT 2: AND ELLEN AS WELL SHE'S SO UNDERATTED
Ong!!! I was really rooting for Georgia and Joe, especially after finding out they met in their childhood and she STILL had the glasses he gave her 😭 and He actually got a horse for her and named it Milkshake!!! Their character arch was heavily underated like even thru all Georgia’s drama, she came running back to Joe to have a drink & talk to him 🤦🏾♀️ i really hope they end up together in season 2
@@MirueYT i think you're mistaking ginny and goergia 😂😂😂 ginny is the daughter lol ! But yeah, totally right omggg I was ROOTING for Joe and Georgia to be together but u totally understand that this will be a slow romance ! I like that cuz it will make it more believable !!
the oppression olympics w hunter and ginny was so cringey too lol (edit: i think the conversations are valid and important, i’m mainly talking about the scripting and way it was approached)
I feel so bad for abby. Like at the dinner scene when she was explaining her family problems and then Ginny was like “ur not the only one with problems” i was like damn okay. That made me lose respect for ginny.
@@imuRgency bruh let’s be honest we would all wanna know. Imagine finding out your mom isn’t a real orphan and your auntie is chilling in the living room one day casually
@@lauramenendez3212 true, but it was still annoying lol. i get she’s supposed to be a teen, but like oh my gosh. reach out to the school counselor or something
@@imuRgency yeah she was usually an average bratty 15 year old but when she asked Georgia about her past and was mad when Georgia didn’t tell. That was a bit too rude
I just don’t like the fact how Ginny wants her mom to open up, but she goes around tell her moms business to a toxic friend group at that. That honestly really don’t care for her🤷🏾♀️. Yet had so many red flags as so called “friends”. They through her under the bus so many times
To be honest i liked that the characters looked so young. Most of the times those "teenagers" look super ripped and like they are in their 20s but they didn't. I don't mind that the actors are older (i find 21-24 good enough to not be weird in intimate scenes yk...) as long as they look like the age of their character. And they all pass
I didn't like any of the teens, the writers tried so hard to make it like 'today's kids' it's embarrassing. I was literally more interested in the Mayor drama then that shit
Joe, Ellen, and the guy who was dating the detective were 3 of all-time favorite characters. The teenagers were poorly created. All the boys in the friend group would irritate the braincells out of me whenever they were on screen. The most realistic teen was Abby (personal opinion).
Ok so we're just not going to talk about how Ginny never locked her window??? Like girl Marcus isn't the only creep that can climb thru a window... Also poor Joe he deserved better
And liking literature, being smart and insecure, craving stability and wanting to fit it. Also she speaks Korean and is able to ride motorcycles because of her dad. She loves her dad and adores her little brother. Her relationship with her mother is problematic due to her mother being very self absorbed and toxic in many cases. She had a lot of character actually.
I’m mad at ginny for dismissing the black girl in the beginning for being her friends but constantly complaining to her friends and boyfriend how hard it’s to be mixed with black. Like girl, you choose to be friends with white peoples, what do you expect. You wouldn’t be dealing with this if you had black friends. Her friends stay saying stereotypes/racist thing to her but she ignored it.
@@SierraSl tbh being mixed you get shit from both sides. the things my black friends said to me might've been different in content than the things my white friends said to me but the feeling they gave me, a v clear "you're not _really_ like us," was exactly the same
I freaked out when I saw the first episode and Ginny and Marcus don't know each other and had straight out of nowhere sex with each other. Like wtf a strange guy came through your window and you gonna sleep with him???
fun fact: the hand salute thing that Marcus does is actually how you say goodby i. sign language. he isn’t saluting. he’s saying goodbye. yknow cuz his dad is deaf so they all (his family) speaks and sign at the same time.
@@marieremelie6716 or it could also mean they don't really feel welcome there, is like if I went to aver Republican city, I'd feel uncomfortable by the way they'd talk about my people, you know?
Tbh I think Ginny was very ungrateful for everything her mum had ever done for her and never seen things from her mums perspective she was just too obsessed with herself and her own problems.
Yes exactly. Like when we see Georgia when she was a teenager, she literally did everything she could to keep Ginny and then in the last episode Ginny just runs away?? Georgia did everything she could to protect Ginny and Ginny was only caught up in her own problems. Same with when Abby talked about her parents divorce and that no one was there for her. Ginny literally told her “I’ve had my own family problems too” like that is not what you say to someone when they’re upset-
her mom is a literal murderer but shes supposed to be ok with that?Keep in mind that we as the audience knows more about georgia than ginny,her own daughter does. There is to much unessceary hate on ginny and not enough holding georgia accountable for her actions. Im sure you wouldnt be all giddy and happy if you found out your mother killed your stepfather from a stranger.
@@olannaiwu1252 not that I’m justifying murder but I’m pretty sure ginnys “stepfather” was eyeing her up and tried to grab her waist when she was exercising not saying it warrants murder but I’m sure her mother was just trying to do what she thought what was best for her children and not out of a whim. Again not condoning murder just saying.
@@Daraling1 No i get what your saying,i saw that too but there was so many other ways to deal with it then murder. Geogias an impulsive thinker, i think we can all agree,and ginny knows nothing about her. With all thats going on in her life and all these secrets abt her mum thats being revealed im not shocked she reacted the way she did.
Righht, when she was with her father and called her mom "crazy" right after her mother told her how she was molested and abused when she younger is something subtle that stuck with me
Being a teen myself, I absolutely hated how they showed all the teenagers. They basically made it look like all teens only want sex, alcohol, drugs and drama. They were all unlikable. The teen characters were either selfish, cringey, toxic, trying too hard to be deep but ending up as just being ridiculously mean. I actually thought Ginny was alright at first but with every episode I hated her more and more. She just seemed really selfish and it felt like she kept playing the victim card at everyone. Like she could just for once listen to someone and try to understand them instead of being like “oooh but my life is worse than yours you have no idea what I’VE been through”. I felt like whenever she was crying the show wanted to make think “oh poor her everyone’s so mean to her and they just don’t understand her” but I was actually thinking “wow okay so I guess it’s you who is getting treated bad?”. To me she was just really toxic.
the way hunter gets so much hate and didn't do anything to deserve it. yeah he was a little cringy, but he treated ginny with respect and she cheated on him. but no one talks about that
I thought he was really sweet to Ginny. Other than his cringiness and 0 personality he was fine. Marcus also had no personality and was kind of creepy. Both dudes were just off.
YES!!! i started watching the show bc of the hunter memes but after watching him, i actually did find him charming at some point every ep,,, and tbh boys his age do the same cringe shit he did (if not more 😐)
I agree. Why can't that just be his flaw? Every teenage character on this show is annoying. But Hunter being Hunter is not nearly as bad as Ginny being annoying, Max being self absorbed and dramatic, Abby being mean and Norah being fake. And Marcus being a twilight wannabe. Hunter and Bracia were the best two.
Ginny-ungrateful and only personally is being mixed. Georgia-she’s my queen❤️love her💕 Max-annoying but cared for Ginny. Marcus-weird... Joe-loved him and Georgia and he is underrated❤️ Ellen-loved her but she never knew what was going on😂
i feel like ginny kinda gets an unfair amount of criticism for some things. like, people complain about how she shouldn’t have been so rude and ungrateful to georgia cause of everything georgia has done for her, but it’s not like ginny knows this. from ginny’s POV, her mom has a ton of secrets, and she always does something that makes them have to move, which keeps ginny from having a normal teenage life.
Ginny from the get go was an entitled piece of garbage and her personality was "mehh disgusting everything sucks." Then all her rationale is thrown out the window when a white dude creeps into the window and kisses her. It's garbage. Georgia is infinitely cooler
I feel like these teen shows should get actual normal gen z teens as consultants to give them insight on how we actually are so the shows dont scream millennial
@@JC-yy8iv What the hell kind of teens were they getting input from cause Skins followed a bunch of wild ass basket cases for 6 series 😂? Teen dramas are always so damn out there, overdoing the teen experience everytime when MOST of us were not wilding out like that. Comedic shows and movies capture actual teens better than any drama show ever has. Indies also tend to do a good job.
I feel like ginny was such a shit character. she is rude and mean to her mom, and the one time Georgia punished her, she despised her mom; i really feel for Georgia bc she really tries, especially when she did the party only to ditch the party made me sad.
Georgia is a relax toxic parent. Ginny is behaving like a normal teenager. marcus and max were also rude to their parents as teenagers usually are but they don't get hate. Yet the person with the fucked up past, a whole lot of struggles and the toxic mother gets hate for acting like a normal teenager? If Georgia really cared about she'd have stayed with Zions parents and gotten her life back together. Or not tried to continuously fuck up every few years and move or cheat with Zion.
@@ducklingscap897 she is not acting like a normal teenager. Stop excusing her terrible behavior to shame Georgia’s character. Georgia does not have to like Zion
@@whatagirthypooyouvetaken5825and it’s not her fault that Zion left, lots of people say that it’s Georgia’s fault for Zion leaving, um…. Are we forgetting that he, a NINETEEN year old dude impregnated a FOURTEEN year old girl? Like, he should be in the list
I think the only realistic thing they put in this show was when they were all in a gc but people were secretly private messaging other people in the chat
Fr fr and a lot of people think her behavior is “cute” for some reason, when in reality, she’s so frickkng annoying and seriously never stopped talking
@@sanjnareddy5458 I’ve had a friend like that in high school with adhd. I actually liked her character. I think it’s less realistic to portray everyone as mature, balanced and well mannered. And a lot of people are cringey and annoying
I hate when shows would have a random character come up to the main character and then that random character becomes their best friend. Like you can’t have them realistically make a friend? Always the short cuts huh?
I saw how Ginny doesnt really like black ppl (besides from her dad) and when she was with Bracia and her friends, she was like so awkward and like "what are these ppl talking about ummmmmm" and she just wanted her white friends
Yeah I didn't like that scene where she only decided to reach out to a black group of friends (who were being very friendly) because her white friends dumped her. I think the black group of friends are all seniors so they are talking about like senior stuff so of course she wasn't able to talk to them and connect with them but they still tried their best to make her feel welcomed. And the thing is she didn't EVEN TRY. Is the thing that she said about being too white for the black community and too black for the white community which is valid but like girl you are ALWAYS going to be too black for the white community because you're experiences literally differ from them. And she had to learn that the hard way when they jacked up her hair and threw her under the bus with the shoplifting. And even after all that she still ignored Bracia and stayed with her horrible friends. 🤦🏽♀️
@@jojoc8229 “You are always going to be too black for the white community, your experience literally differs.” Thank you 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾. It’s the same way in the black community, you will always be too white because your experience is literally different. Finally someone who gets it. You will never share the exact same experience as a white person or a black person and that’s ok. Your experience is individual to yourself.
i predict that Ginny is going to her dads place because she brought that book that he gave her and it had his new address on it. BUTTT i kinda want a season 2😞
i think theyre going to see austins dad because they didnt bring much stuff and they just finished adressing the letters so i feel like thats where there going or maybe to atlanta because of the jacket she found and we know that Ginny wants to find out more about her moms past
joe deserves so much if they do a season 2, there should be more writing of georgia and joe!!! (Edit: why does ginny have to be extremely rude to georgia??!! it infuriated me yet georgia is protecting her why can’t she understand that??!! all the struggles georgia went through and ginny can’t be grateful and throws her anger at georgia?)
I completely agree that Ginny was unnecessarily rude to her mother....but in reality a lot of teenagers are like that. They really don't understand all that their parents are doing is protecting them.
Ginny was never told of these “struggles” and that was exactly her point, she wanted to know more about her mom bc the damage was already done but even georgia knew that a lot of the stuff she did was truly fucked up so she refused to tell ginny.
15 year old here We all are bratty and don’t appreciate our mother’s but that doesn’t mean we don’t love them. Plus whatever happens our parents don’t stop protecting us
i felt like they knew exactly what they were doing with the tap dance scene like there is no way they weren’t in the writer’s room just losing their shit
your hallway tap dance rant is so funny to me cause I went to an arts school so it was pretty typical to find the dance majors spiralling down the hallway, or the drama majors performing intense monologues in the stairwells and stuff and I actually kinda loved that XD
Flashbacks to Pretty Little Liars lmao I was a MAN in COLLEGE glued to my seat! Like “what nonsense can a 17 year old go through this episode that doesn’t leave them traumatized???”
What i don’t understand abt Ginny’s character is able to comprehend and dissect this works of literature but is dumbfounded when it comes to picking up the clues her mom leaves as to why she can’t say anything abt her past life
Lol!!! True but I think it's because it can be hard to deal with our own issues and the environment we're in. Her dad kept leaving her, there was always a new parent, she kept moving. Nothing was stable. I feel that when ur life is always changing and you're constantly hurting then you can find satisfaction in indulging something. Like a way of coping through a hobby or passion. I think she's so knowledgeable with literature because it's something that she can hold onto. It's facts, it stays the same, it's there to learn. It's something to focus on. But I'm not saying u gotta have issues to be good at something lol. I'm just analyzing her and her setting.
Hunter was also falling into the asian stereotypes of having perfect grades, a good girlfriend who knows different language’s, learning a instrument and being talented at other things like tap dancing
Well her hair was actually pretty but I can tell it had something to do with the influence of her white friends lol...and also when she let that lady do her hair at the school sleepover thing
Ginny is the most irritating and annoying character throughout the teens show history 🙄🙄 Please give us more development and backstory of Georgia (and Joe) 😭😭😭
I feel the same way abt Riverdale. The characters aren't exactly the most well written because of the absurdity of the writers, but the actors and production make it entertaining.
its the way that norah said all that stuff to her mom about ginny's mom having the gun the house and then her mom blasted it on tv, but then they all just laughed it off and never touched on it again💁🏾♀️
Because she's only vindictive with her professor, saying he's racist and unfair with her but of course she doesn't tell her friends when they're being racists or problematic...
I feel like Georgia not growing as a character is the point and very important for Ginnys character change. If Georgia would’ve changed for the better Ginny wouldn’t have had a reason to leave
when max made everything about herself.... when ginny mailed those letters... when ginny cheated on hunter... when hunter says literally anything... when abby blamed ginny for the stealing... norahs just boring... when marcus does that hand salut thing...
The fact that Ginny literally is so stupid and fails to understand that Georgia didn’t send those letters to a man in jail for a valid reason, Not just for the sake of it. Like Ginny... she’s trying to protect your brother, are you dense
Is it just me or was Max REALLY ANNOYING. That little thing she does with her lips infuriated me. Also, the way she talked and how cringe she was when she was dating that senior girl.
Unpopular Opinion: Maxine was annoying and probably my least favorite character on the show. I seriously don’t understand why people love her so much she‘s incredibly selfish, overbearing, entitled, and only cares about herself. Ginny’s annoying too but at least you can actually cut her some slack. Max is honestly a terrible friend and I hope Ginny befriends those black kids she sat with at lunch in the last episode. Don’t even get me started on the way she treated Abby...
But ginny is the main character so it they had to find ways to makes us understand her more. Max wasnt so we dont have a reason to justify her shit behaviour but they were definitely as bad as each other
I find it interesting that folks love max and Abby (white girls) who have clearly done fucked up shit, but Ginny gets shit on? White girls like Ginny have always existed, so I find it interesting that people are hating on Ginny like crazy. Is she annoying? No, shit. If you were a teenager, you should know that there were teens who were like Ginny. I’ve seen people like Ginny in real life- hell,I’ve even seen some parts of myself in her when I was an angry teenager. I feel like it’s mainly people who are so used to giving white girls a pass on their behavior and have to confront their own racial biases against black folks “causing” trouble. Ginny is a half- black girl who is making white folks and some poc characters confront their own biases about ginnys character. In addition, some people don’t like Ginny because Ginny reminds them of who they used to be- they’re projecting. Or, she’s the main character and some people will pick her flaws more.
@@k.d3983 what does they're causianess have to do with it? ik i spelled it wrong I just spell it like that/, and ginny is annoying she makes everything about her self. blames everything that she does wrong on her mom, shes a cheater , shes a hypocrite, started saying nitpicking hunters struggle's just because she didn't win a stupid paper, and plus ginny was causing trouble so was max and abby, ginny complained that she was to white for black kids and to black for white kids but when that one girl with the bantu knots tried to be her friend and make her feel welcomed she just passed her up.
@@k.d3983 omg someone said it👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽🥳 ... I agree with everything you said I see myself in Ginny too at that age. I see her lil friends acting the same but Ginny is the only one getting all the shit
Georgia and Joe ARE EVERYTHING my favorite characters Everyone else is meh Nora is a sheep Hunter is the textbook definition of cringe props to his actor
Well thats for legal reason would you like to see minors overworked Also people don’t like to see minors do stuff that actually minors do televised for everyone
yh its because although lots of teens have illegal sex but when filming shows they cant actually shoot those kinds of scenes with teens so it takes away from the storylines sometimes ig
I'm sorry but to me the most unlikeabke characters were Ginny and Marcus. His whole act about beeing a dark, "deep" quiet mystery boy was just awful to me, also the whole thing about cheating ? Hunter was cringe af but if Ginny didn´t want to be with him she should have ended it, I hate how teen shows always try to "justify" cheating because "they can't help it, they´re meant to be" EW
I personally didn’t like Abby the most, because of how she was written. The show didn’t really get into her issues as much and I definitely got the vibe she didn’t like having Ginny in the friend group. I can also understand why you hate Ginny, but I feel like she didn’t like hanging with the black kids because she felt like they were only nice to her because she was half black, but I also feel like she could have gave them a chance
@@thatgirlinthepurplejacket2212 i feel that they were nice and welcoming to her because they know what it’s like to be black in a predominantly white area and wanted her to feel welcome. She pushed them away though
Can we also talk about how bland Marcus character is? I’m just saying if the actor for him is ugly, none of the majority will be capping for him especially when he was such a creep in the beginning.
Honestly, as Rumi should. Some of these entitled ass people (haters) would criticize every little thing in a video even though the content creator execute their video’s with facts and opinions😭💯
I feel like Georgia character unraveled and i thought that was most interesting to watch. Although her persona was constantly unraveling she was still was winning in her own way, within her story line
this show gives me “I’m not like other girls vibe” like, it’s trying to be not like all these teen shows and point out clichés, but it just turns out...cringey
as a mixed kid i kinda get the whole “you’re not white enough for us” and the “you’re too white for us” thing that they put into the story but i feel like it was a bit exaggerated in the show lol like why only have to choose one group, that’s my only complaint bahah edit: oh wait you literally mentioned that later haha sorry
I think Bracia was only there for character development like that was the entire point of her character being there. to show how she only ever embraced one side.
Yea and I'm a bit uncomfortable how these people in the comments are being real violent against Ginny when literally her best friend was *just* as rude to her mama. The peanut gallery got the vim for biracial Afro-ethnic Ginny but none for Marcus and his twin? All these teens were rude to their parents 🤢 but they extra mad at Ginny. Meanwhile some of these folks let their kids call them by their first name and yell at them in public. But Ginny is the problem. Mkay 🤨 mind your children Karen. Mind your children b
Exactly, they kept trying to push the whole “ I don’t fit in with black people narrative “ when Ginny litteraly choose to hang out with her racist while friends instead of Bracia. Ginny entitled to be friends with who she wanteds , but don’t say you “don’t fit in with black kids” when never even tried to talk to them .
Netflix rlly hooked her up w 'backup blacks' like dfkm. she deadass kept talking bout her struggles as a minority but there's a group of ppl right there that can relate but noo u wanna be 'mang' so badd
I actually liked that they castes people in the age close to around 20. Instead of what they normally cast, they cast people over the ages of 27 to play teens, which is kind of creepy
Abby ANNOYS me to my wits end...but she is actually the most relatable teenager character. I think the writers had a bit of a far fetched idea of what its like to be a teenager today
@@rosiejones9716 but there was also that one scene that was never brought up or talked about again when Abby taped her thighs to make them smaller. I think that being insecure and doing things like that can be relatable amongst many teens today and the writers should have shown more of that. But I do agree with what you said.
The worst part of ginny and Georgia was when hunter was tap dancing for Ginny on her birthday and everybody was hyping him up like noooooooo the cringeness I would’ve just broke up with him then and there 🤦🏽♀️ the series of cringe that hunter brought
Exactly me too! No hate to hunters character/ the actor but I always preferred Marcus more (don’t come for me). But y do ppl make it a prob that some ppl happen to like Marcus more?? Did those same ppl have an issue with Stefan or Damon sneaking into Elena’s window like that? I hate the public attention that goes with the tap dancing scene (is he doing it for ego/attention or her?) I just don’t like the 2nd hand embarrassment that I wud get either I’d break up with him too! Altho he’s a nice guy srry!!
SPOILERRRR : just to add on to what you were saying , how was she creative enough to put the damn ashes into the fireworks 😭 but can’t have different hiding spots ! And can we get into them sex scenes cause those confused the hell outta me 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
Joe is the most underrated character
rightt i liked joe
We love Joe ❤️
He deserves better
Who's Joe I stopped watching after this dude broke in Ginny's home (first episode)
@@unknowns78 the restaurant owner
I just wanna know why MANG still existed after they let that girl get in trouble for shoplifting and then tried to blame her
& then she slapped her......
@@ziondeleya3992 & then laughed like nothing happened
Mang woulda had me in jail on several of these occasions Cz somebody shit woulda got rocked
The dynamics were a fucking mess. Like whyyy stay after that
I woulda had to throw hands.
Period me too, and they never even said a sincere sorry and made it up to her. Just bought her make up and acted like it's all good But should've even confessed to the mom
“MANG” is like the worst friend group I’ve ever seen they don’t understand each other and they just don’t talk about their real problems like they just can’t communicate with each other
ginny needs to cut off the group except Maxine if she ever forgives ginny
Exactly and the way they treat each other even when its joking is toxic. The most I ever say/call my friends is bitch..
Because... they’re high schoolers
OMG that one time when they were confronting each other and then just like ignored their problems and laughed it off like no wonder their friend group ended as quick as it started 💀
Unrelated, but I'm your 1,000th like.
I was so angry in that one episode where Ginny told her friends about Georgia’s guns...and then laughed after Cynthia used it against her mom
You're literally the first person to talk about this. Thank you I was so damn pissed I mean-
The fact that she was basically gossiping about it with her friends weirded me out so much. Throughout the season, she was constantly uncovering her mother's secrets and acting on the knowledge without actually taking to time to learn WHY her mother was keeping those secrets. Her mother never mails Austin's letters to his FELON father, has a jacket from a biker gang and owns multiple guns, and all Ginny does is complain that these secrets affect her, gossiping about it with friends without really bothering to look for what the secrets are or why they're secret in the first place.
Fr she is always asking her mom not show up so she doesn’t get the attention ‘drawn to her’ but then proceeds to tell them about how her mom has a gun and pulled out on her. She says how much she hates her mom and how she would rather ‘die’ then become her mom when she’s becoming worse than her mom when she lies for no absolute reason.While her mom lies for Ginnys Safety and her mental health
Honestly that shit pissed me off so much like also why would you be gossiping about shit like that?? Idk about anyone else but if some random ass bitch started talking about her mom owning a gun I would avoid them like the plague like ofc Norah was gonna tell her mom
I'm sorry I agree with this but which ep did Cynthia use it?
When I saw the black characters I thought they weren’t gonna accept Ginny and that would be the narrative, but Ginny literally blew them all off when they were being so welcoming then complained she wasn’t accepted with black kids
Right that was so confusing
She complains about not being accepted or understood because she doesn’t typically connect with black culture and leans the other way, I think she felt intimidated. I think she’s the type of person that would’ve gone with them had they pushed as hard as max did and been the only people that did so
@Caitlyn Wiafe honestly 🙄
Yep. Ginny is very unlikeable. I hope they fix that. I have mixed race heritage and my ass liked her crazy ass Mama more.
@Caitlyn Wiafe that’s what happens when you only have a white parent in your life smh it’s very crucial to have both parents in your life especially if you two different races cuz each race has a different experience and that parent should help their child understand that
i feel so bad for the man who played hunter😭 he just wanted that netflix bag and now he’s being bullied because of the script 💀 free my man
Ikr
lmaoaoao
Yeah but he’s earning so much money especially on cameo because of that meme 😭❤️ good for him lmao
Fr tho
ONGGG
She literally chose the most TOXIC friend group and then wondered why they stayed having problems lmao. Everybody’s issue in this show was putting up a facade and not facing how they felt until it bottled up and came out as either a fight or a murder 💀 clearly there’s no good therapists in that town not even Abby’s parents 😭
And Georgia is one of the most toxic parents ever. Her behavior was so self absorbed and often bordering on abusive it was hard to watch
@@ducklingscap897 how exactly was she toxic though? She may have not been the most stable parent but I don't really see how she was self absorbed or toxic?
@@ducklingscap897 how did you get here???
seriously they got so mad and overreacted to every little thing that didn't matter, max and ginny being the worst culprits for this
Hunter was def cringe, but I never hated him. He’s a genuinely nice guy who never pressured or purposefully stressed out Ginny. Everyone’s hating on him for the racist remarks he made towards her, but everyone conveniently forgets that Ginny literally instigated that whole argument? Saying that Hunter wasn’t Asian enough/ even she was more Asian than him and that his struggles weren’t comparable to hers... overall, this show is just veryyy irresponsible...
His comments were a rebuttal--they weren't his actual thoughts he was just giving Ginny the same energy she gave him with the whole "I speak more mandarin than you" "you're basically white" bs.
Tbh I think I dislike the audience more than the show, they hate on Hunter for such stupid reasons and love Marcus despite him being lowkey problematic
Nah after the essay I was done
@@thetruth830 this boy was BREAKING inside ginny’s room like it was nothing... LIKE ID BE SCARED FOR MY LIFE 🏃🏾♀️💨
@@khezya9491 RIGHTT they’re like “I’d rather have somebody who stalks me, breaks into my room, and disrespects my privacy over someone who is cringe” like ARE YOU OKAY-
I hate the part where all the non black ppl stopped being friends with her so she came to the black table and they made it seem like she didn’t fit in with the black kids but they were talking about senior things and she was a sophomore so of course she won’t really understand 🙄
She rlly should've sat alone. U weren't interested before but now that ur on ur own, u wanna go running to the black ppl? Netflix rlly made it seem like she couldn't be in more than one friendship group
@@destinyellis2408 EXACTLY
I actually think that was a nice touch because she joins the 'black' table as if it's that easy to find a place to belong, but it would have been reductive to the black characters, reducing them to their skin color as if that's their entire identity. Showing they have interests different from her own, including different plans for their futures, really shows how small and limiting Ginny's desperation to fit in in high school is. She doesn't actually have a clue of what her interests are or what she wants to do in the future, but she resents her mom for not pushing her to take extracurriculors because that just what all her friends have been doing. It's about fitting in, not about having her own life.
Literally! Like the Black characters were literally just meant to be Black. I’m mixed and it in no way represents any interactions I’ve had with Black people. Honestly so tokenizing.
@@marielaberge8236 I mean I guess but I think they put it in to make an example of the reason why she says, “ I’m too black for the white kids and I’m too white for the black kids” even though that wasn’t the case....
The fact that they wanted us to think Hunter was cool😭
😂😂😂
the TAP DANCING birthday gift was so 😭😭
I dont know.
Waitttt,they wanted us to think he was coolll?? 😭😭 I COMPLETELY MISSED ITTT
Lmaoo fr
the black kids that ginny sat at the table of in that one episode felt infinitely more like actual people that would be nice to hang out with while MANG was insufferable
Fr MANG was so toxic
yeah they were like mean girls
i hate how everything wrong with this show could literally be solved with a long conversation, like how in the end when marcus said that it was a mistake to sleep with ginny, and she got all hurt, he was literally protecting her and stuff so like that was dumb and then max getting mad for like no reason, literally all of this is none of their buisness
Ok but Ginny is hella shallow for getting mad at Marcus for that...CLEARY it was to foreshadow the fact that the whole thing even happened and to make it seem like it was no big deal
Too much "literally"
@@user-xq9cx9ky9m literally was used only 3 times tho
Hunter was just utter CRINGE especially in the Friday snapchat
Edit: thx for all these likes guys I'm feeling famous😂
yess.
Its Friday happy Friday good morning Ginny welcome to Friday
Sophomore sleepover sophomore sleepover sophomore sleepover
and the tap dance
I SEND A TIK TIK EVERY FRIDAY TO MY FRIENDS THAT SAYS “it’s Friday happy Friday good morning Ginny welcome to Friday”
literally who scripted hunter chen because he was the most cringey character i’ve ever watched in a tv show 😭🤚🏽
the way ginny would just laugh in his face
@@imuRgency the way she still stuck around him sjdjdksk, when he tap danced and sang that song i had second hand embarrassment
@@Flowergoatflower the way everyone was gushing over the song bc they thought it was so good smsjsjsk
@@madebyymira I WAS SO CONFUSED BC MY MAN COULDN’T SING 🤣🤣🤣
@@oseremhen9075 I know right?!! We all got our talents but singing was not his. 💀🤣🤣
JOE IS UNDERRATED , i feel he's gonna have a bigger part in season 2. I mean they invested in the character so much !! He desereves better
Joe is so good looking. I'm attracted to him the most.
@@msnandimarie7023 he's hot
Georgia and Joe gonna end up together
Am I the only one who got second hand embarrassment when Marcus said “can u handle 2 fingers”💀
Yikes
Ew
Bro is it just me but like Marcus creeped me the crap out
I didn’t understand why Ginny even stayed in the “Mang” friend group after the shop lifting. Abby pretty much had it out for her the entire show and Ginny was so worried ab fitting in... she really irritated me
I couldn't stand ginny the entire show. She's self centered and SO disrespectful to Georgia
Litterally I was so confused when they came over to her house to "hang out" afterwards. And they only did that to make max jealous
I think she still tried to fit it in bc she has never had friends before and max was the first person who was nice to her when she came to the new school. Ginny doesn‘t really know how friendships are supposed to be but she doesn‘t want to be lonely again, so she tries to fit in
@@mytb1420 If you grew up with a self absorbed very toxic mother, a dad that keeps leaving, always have a new parent and keep moving you'd have problems too. Nothing was stable for her. Her life is always changing and she's constantly hurting. The system sucks but I wonder if it would have been better for Ginny and Austin to land there instead with an abusive mother.
@@ducklingscap897 sorry but how is Georgia toxic and abusive? Serious question especially in terms with her kids. She’s not self absorbed with herself as 90% of what she’s done and endured are for her kids to have a better life she never physically assaulted them until Ginny said some shit and she hadn’t talked to them is a disgusting condescending manner until Ginny again said some rude shit and was doing foolishness. Ginny was given a silver spoon and a mother that supported her with everything and instead of being a little grateful she misused her and blamed everything bad thing in the world on her. Ginnys only issue is not begin able to stay in one town for the rest of her life as they keep moving as well as her social skills and friends otherwise her life was stable. And next thing she is okay with her dad living with them and wanting to live with her mom but tells him that she is in the happiest stage of her life and so he shouldn’t ruin it but blames her mom after her dad chooses to leave. What does she want?
I don’t like the way they portrayed the black characters, like black people talk about other things besides being black lmao😂😂
Honestly! And black ppl are not that pressed over mix ppl “choosing a side”.. I as a black person would literally walk past a mix person without a thought of “they’re too white/black” like we rlly don’t care😭
right lmao
@@eunowhowitis3547 no exactly! Like don’t get me wrong I’m sure mixed people have their own struggles and they should be allowed to express it. But not every black person is going around mixed kids and ridiculing them for not being black enough. Shii I’m black and I would dress up as Britney Spears too😂😂. She also had both parents in her life black and white.
@@eunowhowitis3547 haha, maybe that's not what you're thinking but there are definitely people who have said things of that sort. mostly, it's if the conversation is started. like, if someone mentions politics and an entire debate begins. that's how it usually happens. however, as for ginny, she rarely spoke to black people and her friends were never especially rude about her race, though they were ignorant.
@@eunowhowitis3547 rightttt like when I saw that scene I was like 🤨
best character is georgia, shes by far the most well written
Yeah I just didn't like that she was obviously a self absorbed, toxic and sometimes even abusive parent and the show tried to make her look good. Romanticizing that is just fucked up.
@@ducklingscap897 I don’t agree, she tried her absolute best. Can you explain to me how she was toxic? I’ve seen you on a lot of
Videos glorifying Ginny and hating Georgia so I just want your viewpoint
@@ducklingscap897 explanation?
Idk why is everyone supporting a psychopath and serial killer. Yes, the husband was a pedo and assaulted Ginny but Georgia could have DIVORCED or called the police instead of killing him. It makes Georgia just as bad as Kenny. She is still money laundering and taking advantage of new people to get money. This isn't game of thrones so she has no reason to do this in the 21st century. She is a bad mom. Austin stabbed a kid and Ginny turned out to be a cheating liar just like Georgia. She and Ginny are toxic to each other and to other people.
After all this, I strongly dislike Georgia more than Ginny. I hope Georgia ends up in prison for all her crimes because I can't find a reason to root for her by the end of the season 1.
@@whatagirthypooyouvetaken5825 For starters, she killed a man, and then proceeded to joke about it?
The most underrated character for me was teenage Mary/Georgia (played by Nikki Roumel). She nailed that role! They did an amazing job casting her.💕🔫
Yes and she also resembled the adult Georgia so so much.
Can't we just agree on the fact that Georgia and Joe are the best characters and the show should've been about them. Idgaf about Ginny and her teen drama crap i wanna see some murder, Georgia backstory, badass woman, and cute Joe goddam it
EDIT: I FORGOT AUSTIN OMGG
EDIT 2: AND ELLEN AS WELL SHE'S SO UNDERATTED
Ong!!! I was really rooting for Georgia and Joe, especially after finding out they met in their childhood and she STILL had the glasses he gave her 😭 and He actually got a horse for her and named it Milkshake!!! Their character arch was heavily underated like even thru all Georgia’s drama, she came running back to Joe to have a drink & talk to him 🤦🏾♀️ i really hope they end up together in season 2
@@MirueYT i think you're mistaking ginny and goergia 😂😂😂 ginny is the daughter lol ! But yeah, totally right omggg I was ROOTING for Joe and Georgia to be together but u totally understand that this will be a slow romance ! I like that cuz it will make it more believable !!
@@MirueYT that is a CRIME lmaooo
@@harunakirisaki2602 lmaoooo i was tripping OF COURSE I MEANT GEORGIA 😭😭😭 I’m sorry
@@theguy10n1 i meant Georgia 😭😭😭
the oppression olympics w hunter and ginny was so cringey too lol
(edit: i think the conversations are valid and important, i’m mainly talking about the scripting and way it was approached)
Yeah but it’s realistic. Minorities are always trying to compare each others oppression and struggles
it’s something about they way they were saying black in uppercase in that scene that ain’t sit right LMAO
@@believerc1 yeah i agree, ive definitely seen it happen in the real world all the time. it was just the way they scripted it made it so off putting
@@imuRgency ikr im mixed too and could resonate with the convo, but both of their arguments were so poorly worded
Monoracial people need to shut up about what they do/don’t think biracial people talk about
I feel so bad for abby. Like at the dinner scene when she was explaining her family problems and then Ginny was like “ur not the only one with problems” i was like damn okay. That made me lose respect for ginny.
Yes not compassionate. I had someone say that to me when I was in a bad spot. That really hurts
and when abby said that she'd date black men for mixed kids, or when she threw ginny under the bus for stealing.. yeah I lost mad respect for abby.
@@coldstonedreamery RIGHT
@@coldstonedreamery wait omg when did Abby say she would date a black man for mixed kids? That’s so..
@@coldstonedreamery it wasn't abby that said that, it was that samantha girl. But I still don't like abby
why did i not like this show but was addicted to it at the same time 😭
SAMEEEEE
Ginny got over my nerves so much to the point where I was about to stop watching the show
no it was whenever she’d press georgia for info on her past for me
@@imuRgency bruh let’s be honest we would all wanna know. Imagine finding out your mom isn’t a real orphan and your auntie is chilling in the living room one day casually
@@lauramenendez3212 true, but it was still annoying lol. i get she’s supposed to be a teen, but like oh my gosh. reach out to the school counselor or something
@@imuRgency yeah she was usually an average bratty 15 year old but when she asked Georgia about her past and was mad when Georgia didn’t tell. That was a bit too rude
@@lauramenendez3212 she doesn’t have to press her about it especially after finding out about her moms relationship with her grandfather
Her only personality is being mixed tbh
😂😂
Your not wrong
😂😂😂😂
For real
Yup! She wouldve been one of those girls who only has flags in her bio lmfao
I just don’t like the fact how Ginny wants her mom to open up, but she goes around tell her moms business to a toxic friend group at that. That honestly really don’t care for her🤷🏾♀️. Yet had so many red flags as so called “friends”. They through her under the bus so many times
To be honest i liked that the characters looked so young. Most of the times those "teenagers" look super ripped and like they are in their 20s but they didn't. I don't mind that the actors are older (i find 21-24 good enough to not be weird in intimate scenes yk...) as long as they look like the age of their character. And they all pass
I didn't like any of the teens, the writers tried so hard to make it like 'today's kids' it's embarrassing. I was literally more interested in the Mayor drama then that shit
Fr
Joe, Ellen, and the guy who was dating the detective were 3 of all-time favorite characters. The teenagers were poorly created. All the boys in the friend group would irritate the braincells out of me whenever they were on screen. The most realistic teen was Abby (personal opinion).
@Kim Seungmin Your a stay too 💅
@@Hi-ky2wd Samee
@Kim Seungmin 💅🏼
The black people in the show are just there to aid other characters, they were portrayed as plus 1’s
They were her 'backup blacks'
@@destinyellis2408 Fr
@@destinyellis2408 her blackups
@@jada4078 LOL FR THO
@@jada4078 😭
Ok so we're just not going to talk about how Ginny never locked her window??? Like girl Marcus isn't the only creep that can climb thru a window... Also poor Joe he deserved better
Ginny's only character traits are being mixed and having a hard childhood before they got there
And liking literature, being smart and insecure, craving stability and wanting to fit it. Also she speaks Korean and is able to ride motorcycles because of her dad. She loves her dad and adores her little brother. Her relationship with her mother is problematic due to her mother being very self absorbed and toxic in many cases.
She had a lot of character actually.
You’re completely right
It only took me a few minutes to realize the black characters were meant to be Ginny's fairy godmothers-
I’m mad at ginny for dismissing the black girl in the beginning for being her friends but constantly complaining to her friends and boyfriend how hard it’s to be mixed with black. Like girl, you choose to be friends with white peoples, what do you expect. You wouldn’t be dealing with this if you had black friends. Her friends stay saying stereotypes/racist thing to her but she ignored it.
@@SierraSl facts!!
@@SierraSl right 💀
@@SierraSl tbh being mixed you get shit from both sides. the things my black friends said to me might've been different in content than the things my white friends said to me but the feeling they gave me, a v clear "you're not _really_ like us," was exactly the same
I def peeped that too and I hated it 😒😒
I was also shocked by their ages. They looked sooo young.
really?? i was like marcus is def not 15 LOL
@@madebyymira oh yeah, but he's barely on screen enough for me to care. 😂
Yeah, I thought they had to be 18 or 19.
No way, I knew Hunter was 26 lmao ain't no way I was believing he was a teenager 🤣😂
abby definitely passed as a 16 year old
I freaked out when I saw the first episode and Ginny and Marcus don't know each other and had straight out of nowhere sex with each other. Like wtf a strange guy came through your window and you gonna sleep with him???
Yes that was crazy.
This show was just bizarre and contradictory she hated her mom but even her mom wouldn’t have done that
@@sashav.3189 Yet she wanted to be her mother so bad. I'm like girlfriend pick a struggle and stick with it
fun fact: the hand salute thing that Marcus does is actually how you say goodby i. sign language. he isn’t saluting. he’s saying goodbye.
yknow cuz his dad is deaf so they all (his family) speaks and sign at the same time.
1. her dad's face when she called wellsbury a progressive utopia- 2. the way they addressed suicidal thoughts + self harm was inadequate tbh...
So fucking true! Every character except for Paul and Nora needs therapy!
Not Ginny calling wellsbury a “progressive utopia” bc they legalize weed but have like 7 poc in the entire town 🤢🤢💀💀
@@Sarah-jz2qb sis literally complained about the lack of black people too 🙄
@@Sarah-jz2qb but you can’t get mad because a town has little poc, I understand why you would if it’s a show but irl it’s just coincidence
@@marieremelie6716 or it could also mean they don't really feel welcome there, is like if I went to aver Republican city, I'd feel uncomfortable by the way they'd talk about my people, you know?
Tbh I think Ginny was very ungrateful for everything her mum had ever done for her and never seen things from her mums perspective she was just too obsessed with herself and her own problems.
Yes exactly. Like when we see Georgia when she was a teenager, she literally did everything she could to keep Ginny and then in the last episode Ginny just runs away?? Georgia did everything she could to protect Ginny and Ginny was only caught up in her own problems. Same with when Abby talked about her parents divorce and that no one was there for her. Ginny literally told her “I’ve had my own family problems too” like that is not what you say to someone when they’re upset-
her mom is a literal murderer but shes supposed to be ok with that?Keep in mind that we as the audience knows more about georgia than ginny,her own daughter does. There is to much unessceary hate on ginny and not enough holding georgia accountable for her actions. Im sure you wouldnt be all giddy and happy if you found out your mother killed your stepfather from a stranger.
@@olannaiwu1252 not that I’m justifying murder but I’m pretty sure ginnys “stepfather” was eyeing her up and tried to grab her waist when she was exercising not saying it warrants murder but I’m sure her mother was just trying to do what she thought what was best for her children and not out of a whim. Again not condoning murder just saying.
@@Daraling1 No i get what your saying,i saw that too but there was so many other ways to deal with it then murder. Geogias an impulsive thinker, i think we can all agree,and ginny knows nothing about her. With all thats going on in her life and all these secrets abt her mum thats being revealed im not shocked she reacted the way she did.
Righht, when she was with her father and called her mom "crazy" right after her mother told her how she was molested and abused when she younger is something subtle that stuck with me
Being a teen myself, I absolutely hated how they showed all the teenagers. They basically made it look like all teens only want sex, alcohol, drugs and drama. They were all unlikable. The teen characters were either selfish, cringey, toxic, trying too hard to be deep but ending up as just being ridiculously mean.
I actually thought Ginny was alright at first but with every episode I hated her more and more. She just seemed really selfish and it felt like she kept playing the victim card at everyone. Like she could just for once listen to someone and try to understand them instead of being like “oooh but my life is worse than yours you have no idea what I’VE been through”. I felt like whenever she was crying the show wanted to make think “oh poor her everyone’s so mean to her and they just don’t understand her” but I was actually thinking “wow okay so I guess it’s you who is getting treated bad?”. To me she was just really toxic.
can we all agree that the only wholesome character is my girl, Ellen? she's the comedic relief in the show for sure i fucking love her
Ginny actively choose not to be friends with the black girls 😂😂
yes omfg, she kept making excuses as to why she couldnt go, then MANG kinda stopped and she just tried to go to the black kids?
no bc literally what was her problem
HONESTLY!!! MULTIPLE CHANCES TO BE THEIR FRIEND.
right wtf
literally and then she wanted to go back to them once her trash ass white friends and norah ditched her. like oh took her long enough
the way hunter gets so much hate and didn't do anything to deserve it. yeah he was a little cringy, but he treated ginny with respect and she cheated on him. but no one talks about that
I thought he was really sweet to Ginny. Other than his cringiness and 0 personality he was fine. Marcus also had no personality and was kind of creepy. Both dudes were just off.
Hunter was such a darling, yes he was cringey but they did him wrong. Ginny was just an immature b*tch that wasn't ready for what he had to offer.
Hunter was my favorite character
YES!!! i started watching the show bc of the hunter memes but after watching him, i actually did find him charming at some point every ep,,, and tbh boys his age do the same cringe shit he did (if not more 😐)
I agree. Why can't that just be his flaw? Every teenage character on this show is annoying. But Hunter being Hunter is not nearly as bad as Ginny being annoying, Max being self absorbed and dramatic, Abby being mean and Norah being fake. And Marcus being a twilight wannabe. Hunter and Bracia were the best two.
Ginny-ungrateful and only personally is being mixed.
Georgia-she’s my queen❤️love her💕
Max-annoying but cared for Ginny.
Marcus-weird...
Joe-loved him and Georgia and he is underrated❤️
Ellen-loved her but she never knew what was going on😂
Absolutely 😁😂😂!!
i feel like ginny kinda gets an unfair amount of criticism for some things. like, people complain about how she shouldn’t have been so rude and ungrateful to georgia cause of everything georgia has done for her, but it’s not like ginny knows this. from ginny’s POV, her mom has a ton of secrets, and she always does something that makes them have to move, which keeps ginny from having a normal teenage life.
Also Georgia is really toxic, constantly disrespects her children and tramples all over them. But nobody mentions that.
@@ducklingscap897 if anything her kids trample over HER and she doesn't discipline them at all which is why they are so disrespectful
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Ginny from the get go was an entitled piece of garbage and her personality was "mehh disgusting everything sucks." Then all her rationale is thrown out the window when a white dude creeps into the window and kisses her. It's garbage. Georgia is infinitely cooler
I feel like these teen shows should get actual normal gen z teens as consultants to give them insight on how we actually are so the shows dont scream millennial
They must not know any actual teenagers.
Yeah I agree but! They have to be 18 or older, other wise many topics and scenes wouldn’t have been able to be done due to being a minor.
I’m an old, granted. But it’s a real rite of passage to watch your generation be misrepresented on tv.
That’s exactly what Skins did, and they hired new ones every “generation” (every 2 seasons when the cast changed to the next class)
@@JC-yy8iv What the hell kind of teens were they getting input from cause Skins followed a bunch of wild ass basket cases for 6 series 😂? Teen dramas are always so damn out there, overdoing the teen experience everytime when MOST of us were not wilding out like that. Comedic shows and movies capture actual teens better than any drama show ever has. Indies also tend to do a good job.
Remember when Georgia told Joe he would look nice in a suit and so he wore a suit and she didn't even notice 😑
And yes Abby also deserved so much more
Dang... she did him dirty throughout the whole show.
On which episode did he wear a suit?
@@princesskarabo3914 The one where there was a town fund raiser or something like that
I’m pretty sure she noticed at that party
@@SierraSl then when you realize she knew who he was the whole time made it even more annoying
I would happily watch the whole movie with just Georgia’s story
I feel like ginny was such a shit character. she is rude and mean to her mom, and the one time Georgia punished her, she despised her mom; i really feel for Georgia bc she really tries, especially when she did the party only to ditch the party made me sad.
Georgia is a relax toxic parent. Ginny is behaving like a normal teenager. marcus and max were also rude to their parents as teenagers usually are but they don't get hate.
Yet the person with the fucked up past, a whole lot of struggles and the toxic mother gets hate for acting like a normal teenager?
If Georgia really cared about she'd have stayed with Zions parents and gotten her life back together. Or not tried to continuously fuck up every few years and move or cheat with Zion.
@@ducklingscap897 she is not acting like a normal teenager. Stop excusing her terrible behavior to shame Georgia’s character. Georgia does not have to like Zion
@@whatagirthypooyouvetaken5825and it’s not her fault that Zion left, lots of people say that it’s Georgia’s fault for Zion leaving, um…. Are we forgetting that he, a NINETEEN year old dude impregnated a FOURTEEN year old girl? Like, he should be in the list
I think the only realistic thing they put in this show was when they were all in a gc but people were secretly private messaging other people in the chat
Lmao fr
You have Sam Winchester as your pic I respect you
@@anamkouser7271 love that
fr
yes lmao
That max girl really ruined it for me the way she just was so cringe. Her acting reminded me a lot of Instagram 2016 like lele pons
The writers REALLY missed the mark on what teenagers sound like. Absolute fuckin yikes
Fr fr and a lot of people think her behavior is “cute” for some reason, when in reality, she’s so frickkng annoying and seriously never stopped talking
@@sanjnareddy5458 I’ve had a friend like that in high school with adhd. I actually liked her character. I think it’s less realistic to portray everyone as mature, balanced and well mannered. And a lot of people are cringey and annoying
I hate when shows would have a random character come up to the main character and then that random character becomes their best friend. Like you can’t have them realistically make a friend? Always the short cuts huh?
@@katybee3891 as someone with adhd, i also enjoyed her character haha.
I saw how Ginny doesnt really like black ppl (besides from her dad) and when she was with Bracia and her friends, she was like so awkward and like "what are these ppl talking about ummmmmm" and she just wanted her white friends
Yeah I didn't like that scene where she only decided to reach out to a black group of friends (who were being very friendly) because her white friends dumped her. I think the black group of friends are all seniors so they are talking about like senior stuff so of course she wasn't able to talk to them and connect with them but they still tried their best to make her feel welcomed. And the thing is she didn't EVEN TRY. Is the thing that she said about being too white for the black community and too black for the white community which is valid but like girl you are ALWAYS going to be too black for the white community because you're experiences literally differ from them. And she had to learn that the hard way when they jacked up her hair and threw her under the bus with the shoplifting. And even after all that she still ignored Bracia and stayed with her horrible friends. 🤦🏽♀️
@@jojoc8229 “You are always going to be too black for the white community, your experience literally differs.” Thank you 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾. It’s the same way in the black community, you will always be too white because your experience is literally different. Finally someone who gets it. You will never share the exact same experience as a white person or a black person and that’s ok. Your experience is individual to yourself.
"every character is older than me" *stares in 24*
i predict that Ginny is going to her dads place because she brought that book that he gave her and it had his new address on it. BUTTT i kinda want a season 2😞
She might but that's stupid because all he will do is call her mother to let her know where she is and she's going to run away again.
I think they went to see Austin’s dad
i think theyre going to see austins dad because they didnt bring much stuff and they just finished adressing the letters so i feel like thats where there going or maybe to atlanta because of the jacket she found and we know that Ginny wants to find out more about her moms past
I’m waiting for Ginny to realize her dad only wanted to stay around for her MOM and not her! Smh
nah cause here mom could easily find her and her dad's gonna bring her right back
joe deserves so much if they do a season 2, there should be more writing of georgia and joe!!!
(Edit: why does ginny have to be extremely rude to georgia??!! it infuriated me yet georgia is protecting her why can’t she understand that??!! all the struggles georgia went through and ginny can’t be grateful and throws her anger at georgia?)
I completely agree that Ginny was unnecessarily rude to her mother....but in reality a lot of teenagers are like that. They really don't understand all that their parents are doing is protecting them.
@@jordanneebanks9891 I totally agree with you!!
She is just a teen it happens
Ginny was never told of these “struggles” and that was exactly her point, she wanted to know more about her mom bc the damage was already done but even georgia knew that a lot of the stuff she did was truly fucked up so she refused to tell ginny.
15 year old here
We all are bratty and don’t appreciate our mother’s but that doesn’t mean we don’t love them. Plus whatever happens our parents don’t stop protecting us
i felt like they knew exactly what they were doing with the tap dance scene like there is no way they weren’t in the writer’s room just losing their shit
That was definitely on purpose
your hallway tap dance rant is so funny to me cause I went to an arts school so it was pretty typical to find the dance majors spiralling down the hallway, or the drama majors performing intense monologues in the stairwells and stuff and I actually kinda loved that XD
The fact that all these cringey shows have me in a chokehold bc I live for the absurdity every episode lol :/
The tightest chokehold i swear LMAO
Flashbacks to Pretty Little Liars lmao I was a MAN in COLLEGE glued to my seat! Like “what nonsense can a 17 year old go through this episode that doesn’t leave them traumatized???”
@@TubemastaC it be like that sometimes
Lmfao right 💀
@@TubemastaC LMFAOOO
What i don’t understand abt Ginny’s character is able to comprehend and dissect this works of literature but is dumbfounded when it comes to picking up the clues her mom leaves as to why she can’t say anything abt her past life
Lol!!! True but I think it's because it can be hard to deal with our own issues and the environment we're in. Her dad kept leaving her, there was always a new parent, she kept moving. Nothing was stable. I feel that when ur life is always changing and you're constantly hurting then you can find satisfaction in indulging something. Like a way of coping through a hobby or passion. I think she's so knowledgeable with literature because it's something that she can hold onto. It's facts, it stays the same, it's there to learn. It's something to focus on. But I'm not saying u gotta have issues to be good at something lol. I'm just analyzing her and her setting.
Lmao but true
But maybe there is more to it
What clues did her mom leave? She just lied to Ginny all the time and didn’t mention it.
@@mynameisddotcalm1008 the jacket, the guns, the money, the lying, the secret family...
Hunter was also falling into the asian stereotypes of having perfect grades, a good girlfriend who knows different language’s, learning a instrument and being talented at other things like tap dancing
Honestly, this is the best comment section I’ve seen on RUclips in a while. Like I agree with so many of the points being made about this damn show.
I know, I was expecting lthwre to be a freaking onslaught
Ginny felt like a token POC character. In a show abt a POC....
I see no lie
That was really her entire personality. Just a token.
definitely but i think that might have been the point. She kept her distance from the black girls on purpose i think
@@dollylove9311 but WHY when the Black characters were actually nice to her???
@@AMCW90 Because "biracial"
When she started straightening her hair at the end I’m was done ☠️
Well her hair was actually pretty but I can tell it had something to do with the influence of her white friends lol...and also when she let that lady do her hair at the school sleepover thing
@@Kamdynne no she looked good it’s just you can tell it was influenced by her white friends and that hurt 😭
She became "White & Boogie" she even wore the cardigan and the infinity sweater.
Dolly Pop PLSS
Ginny is the most irritating and annoying character throughout the teens show history 🙄🙄
Please give us more development and backstory of Georgia (and Joe) 😭😭😭
After every episode I had to take a brief pause 😭✋🏻
Somehow i both disliked most of the characters and still really liked the show loll
I totally see what you mean about her only talking to black characters for character development tho, yikes 😬
people forget that you don’t have to like a characters in a show to like it. sometimes those characters are meant to be frowned upon or not liked
same i couldnt stop watching and i loved the show but the literal only characters i liked were joe and ellen
I feel the same way abt Riverdale. The characters aren't exactly the most well written because of the absurdity of the writers, but the actors and production make it entertaining.
I mean I love Euphoria but most of the teenagers get on my nerves so I get it
its the way that norah said all that stuff to her mom about ginny's mom having the gun the house and then her mom blasted it on tv, but then they all just laughed it off and never touched on it again💁🏾♀️
So unrealistic
exactly. it’s SO unrealistic. if it were me, i’d be like screw this friendship, y’all can’t even keep one secrete which is important to me
Right I would be so done with that friendship
Because she's only vindictive with her professor, saying he's racist and unfair with her but of course she doesn't tell her friends when they're being racists or problematic...
RIGHT
I feel like Georgia not growing as a character is the point and very important for Ginnys character change.
If Georgia would’ve changed for the better Ginny wouldn’t have had a reason to leave
but like was I the only one who knew from second 1 that georgia killed her husband???
when max made everything about herself.... when ginny mailed those letters... when ginny cheated on hunter... when hunter says literally anything... when abby blamed ginny for the stealing... norahs just boring... when marcus does that hand salut thing...
Norah didn’t get screen time to even be called boring
@@zaylaaaaaa exactly, she was very underrated .. i literally had to watch it TWICE to know her name .
I KNOW WHATS UP WITH THE SALUT THING I WOULD JUST LIGHT MYSELF WITH LIGHTER FUEL🤮
The fact that Ginny literally is so stupid and fails to understand that Georgia didn’t send those letters to a man in jail for a valid reason,
Not just for the sake of it. Like Ginny... she’s trying to protect your brother, are you dense
Is it just me or was Max REALLY ANNOYING. That little thing she does with her lips infuriated me. Also, the way she talked and how cringe she was when she was dating that senior girl.
Unpopular Opinion: Maxine was annoying and probably my least favorite character on the show. I seriously don’t understand why people love her so much she‘s incredibly selfish, overbearing, entitled, and only cares about herself. Ginny’s annoying too but at least you can actually cut her some slack. Max is honestly a terrible friend and I hope Ginny befriends those black kids she sat with at lunch in the last episode. Don’t even get me started on the way she treated Abby...
But ginny is the main character so it they had to find ways to makes us understand her more. Max wasnt so we dont have a reason to justify her shit behaviour but they were definitely as bad as each other
I agree, and I think the whole reason of her character being that way is to show how she doesn't understand how privileged she is.
I find it interesting that folks love max and Abby (white girls) who have clearly done fucked up shit, but Ginny gets shit on? White girls like Ginny have always existed, so I find it interesting that people are hating on Ginny like crazy. Is she annoying? No, shit. If you were a teenager, you should know that there were teens who were like Ginny. I’ve seen people like Ginny in real life- hell,I’ve even seen some parts of myself in her when I was an angry teenager. I feel like it’s mainly people who are so used to giving white girls a pass on their behavior and have to confront their own racial biases against black folks “causing” trouble. Ginny is a half- black girl who is making white folks and some poc characters confront their own biases about ginnys character. In addition, some people don’t like Ginny because Ginny reminds them of who they used to be- they’re projecting. Or, she’s the main character and some people will pick her flaws more.
@@k.d3983 what does they're causianess have to do with it? ik i spelled it wrong I just spell it like that/, and ginny is annoying she makes everything about her self. blames everything that she does wrong on her mom, shes a cheater , shes a hypocrite, started saying nitpicking hunters struggle's just because she didn't win a stupid paper, and plus ginny was causing trouble so was max and abby, ginny complained that she was to white for black kids and to black for white kids but when that one girl with the bantu knots tried to be her friend and make her feel welcomed she just passed her up.
@@k.d3983 omg someone said it👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽🥳 ... I agree with everything you said I see myself in Ginny too at that age. I see her lil friends acting the same but Ginny is the only one getting all the shit
"clickity-clack your way to class, don't do that in the hallway" had me dying 😂😂😂
Georgia and Joe ARE EVERYTHING my favorite characters
Everyone else is meh
Nora is a sheep
Hunter is the textbook definition of cringe props to his actor
as a sophomore in college, it is so weird to know that there are people older than me acting as high schoolers on so many tv shows
Well thats for legal reason would you like to see minors overworked
Also people don’t like to see minors do stuff that actually minors do televised for everyone
Exactly I was surprised by the actress age who played Ginny, She’s 23 in real life and looks like a 15 yr old lol
Same! Gave me flash backs lowkey 😭
yh its because although lots of teens have illegal sex but when filming shows they cant actually shoot those kinds of scenes with teens so it takes away from the storylines sometimes ig
@@himanshisobti6937 stfu, they just said they find it weird.... u jumping to all these conclusions
I'm sorry but to me the most unlikeabke characters were Ginny and Marcus. His whole act about beeing a dark, "deep" quiet mystery boy was just awful to me, also the whole thing about cheating ? Hunter was cringe af but if Ginny didn´t want to be with him she should have ended it, I hate how teen shows always try to "justify" cheating because "they can't help it, they´re meant to be" EW
I personally didn’t like Abby the most, because of how she was written. The show didn’t really get into her issues as much and I definitely got the vibe she didn’t like having Ginny in the friend group. I can also understand why you hate Ginny, but I feel like she didn’t like hanging with the black kids because she felt like they were only nice to her because she was half black, but I also feel like she could have gave them a chance
I agree!!
@@thatgirlinthepurplejacket2212 i feel that they were nice and welcoming to her because they know what it’s like to be black in a predominantly white area and wanted her to feel welcome. She pushed them away though
Can we also talk about how bland Marcus character is? I’m just saying if the actor for him is ugly, none of the majority will be capping for him especially when he was such a creep in the beginning.
@@sarah-leamanning2946 he broke into their house several times and it was just brushed off it’s weird
Hunter chen is the personification of riverdale 😂
honestly Ginny is the equivalent to Tori in Victorious.
And max is a like mix of Trina and Jade lol
Don't do Tori dirty like that
"imma talk my good shit" this is my new motto
Honestly, as Rumi should. Some of these entitled ass people (haters) would criticize every little thing in a video even though the content creator execute their video’s with facts and opinions😭💯
I read it as he said it 💀💀💀
I feel like Georgia character unraveled and i thought that was most interesting to watch. Although her persona was constantly unraveling she was still was winning in her own way, within her story line
this show gives me “I’m not like other girls vibe”
like, it’s trying to be not like all these teen shows and point out clichés, but it just turns out...cringey
That season finale was epic! I had so many problems with the show but the way it ended intrigued me for S2!
It’s like 13rw and Riverdale mixed together with a dash of On My Block
I see that
this is completely right
Best way to put it 😭
Like Netflix is literally just recycling plot over and over, whats up with that🧍🏼
okay but omb is so good😩even tho it’s literally riverdale but its not white kids and its abt gangs
I only watched for Georgia and Joe, I had to skip through all the highschool scenes the second-hand embarrassment
And Zion. And the rest of the adults
The flashbacks were cool but then they started boring me at the end.
Same the adults were so much interesting
as a mixed kid i kinda get the whole “you’re not white enough for us” and the “you’re too white for us” thing that they put into the story but i feel like it was a bit exaggerated in the show lol like why only have to choose one group, that’s my only complaint bahah
edit: oh wait you literally mentioned that later haha sorry
Yea but let's be honest if ur mom is white and non black u have more of a loss in knowing the black side
@@sorryliars3550 yea i get that
Austin is iconic. This kid likes Harry Potter I already love him
I think Bracia was only there for character development like that was the entire point of her character being there. to show how she only ever embraced one side.
Yea and I'm a bit uncomfortable how these people in the comments are being real violent against Ginny when literally her best friend was *just* as rude to her mama. The peanut gallery got the vim for biracial Afro-ethnic Ginny but none for Marcus and his twin? All these teens were rude to their parents 🤢 but they extra mad at Ginny.
Meanwhile some of these folks let their kids call them by their first name and yell at them in public. But Ginny is the problem. Mkay 🤨 mind your children Karen. Mind your children b
@@israeliana so true I noticed that as well
Exactly, they kept trying to push the whole “ I don’t fit in with black people narrative “ when Ginny litteraly choose to hang out with her racist while friends instead of Bracia. Ginny entitled to be friends with who she wanteds , but don’t say you “don’t fit in with black kids” when never even tried to talk to them .
@@israeliana I hate them all 😩
Netflix rlly hooked her up w 'backup blacks' like dfkm. she deadass kept talking bout her struggles as a minority but there's a group of ppl right there that can relate but noo u wanna be 'mang' so badd
The way Ginny just let herself get slapped I-
And then they laughed 🧍🏾♀️ ooh chile they toxic
I was ready to fight on that part the whole time I was like "don't let these white girls blind sight you" and wtf did she do
I would have jumped across that table and lit Arby's a$$ up and read her for filth!
WAIT WHEN DID SHE GET SLAPPED 😭
@@exbeautyqueen At the end when they were all at the coffee shop and they were apologizing for being such bad friends...
I actually liked that they castes people in the age close to around 20. Instead of what they normally cast, they cast people over the ages of 27 to play teens, which is kind of creepy
Lets be honest though, we all know that Georgia and Joe are gonna hook up in season 2 if there is one
I kinda want her and Zion tho
Abby ANNOYS me to my wits end...but she is actually the most relatable teenager character. I think the writers had a bit of a far fetched idea of what its like to be a teenager today
We don't just talk about sex and social media all the time like we ain't that shallow
@@rosiejones9716 one hundred percent. Its like they forgot what its like to be a teenager.
i loved her, haha
@@rosiejones9716 but there was also that one scene that was never brought up or talked about again when Abby taped her thighs to make them smaller. I think that being insecure and doing things like that can be relatable amongst many teens today and the writers should have shown more of that. But I do agree with what you said.
she was annoying and fake but like she somehow ended up my favorite
Georgia carries the show. Such an interesting character i love her
ahh you used a clip from one of my videos!! i feel so honored lmao
Okay but Georgia’s outfits were so gooddd, especially the one with the long green coat
i like marcus and ginny, i just didnt like how they kinda romanticised cheating
Facts.. rlly weird they did that. she could’ve just not agreed to be Hunters girl when she knew she still liked Marcus.
@@eunowhowitis3547 yeah, i dont know why she just didn’t tell hunter the feelings weren’t mutual when there was many opportunities
Should have waited till after she broke up with Marcus.
It’s supposed to be coming of age like sh has to make mistakes and be dumb as hell
@@melaniefelix3655 i guess but she didnt need to lead hunter on like that 😟
The worst part of ginny and Georgia was when hunter was tap dancing for Ginny on her birthday and everybody was hyping him up like noooooooo the cringeness I would’ve just broke up with him then and there 🤦🏽♀️ the series of cringe that hunter brought
I skipped that scene lmao I just couldn't watch it
Exactly me too! No hate to hunters character/ the actor but I always preferred Marcus more (don’t come for me). But y do ppl make it a prob that some ppl happen to like Marcus more?? Did those same ppl have an issue with Stefan or Damon sneaking into Elena’s window like that? I hate the public attention that goes with the tap dancing scene (is he doing it for ego/attention or her?) I just don’t like the 2nd hand embarrassment that I wud get either I’d break up with him too! Altho he’s a nice guy srry!!
Georgia: *breathes*
Ginny: MOM, stop eMbARrAssInG mE
I hardly went up to ep. 3 and was like “remove from row”
I literally got second hand embarrassment during that tap dance scene 😭😭😭
if a guy or anyone did that to me, i would be like 😧
@@angeieticals3059 🥸😕😥🥸
SPOILERRRR : just to add on to what you were saying , how was she creative enough to put the damn ashes into the fireworks 😭 but can’t have different hiding spots ! And can we get into them sex scenes cause those confused the hell outta me 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
Same and they happened so abruptly
@@madisonmad2767 exactly one minute they talking abt recycling the next thing u know they dry huⓂ️ping each other 💀
@@alyssa3512 yeah like tf was happening
cremation fireworks are a thing lmao-
alyssa omg that part was so cringey and embarrassing I had to pause and laugh 😭
Don’t even get me STAAARRTED on MANG 🥲🥲ridiculous 😂😂 i had a friend group like that in elementary... high school me would neeeeverrr.
THE FIRE WORK PART WHEN I TELL U MY JAW DROPPED