12 Angry Men: The Test We All Fail

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  • Опубликовано: 23 янв 2025

Комментарии • 49

  • @sandlewood-c8b
    @sandlewood-c8b 11 дней назад +3

    this video inspires me 🔥

    • @BraveNewSlop
      @BraveNewSlop  7 дней назад

      Just remember, when the time comes, you won't feel inspired. You'll feel afraid. Stand anyway!

  • @Catimeran
    @Catimeran 18 дней назад +3

    Best video yet, you have me aspiring to be someone with the strength to stand

    • @BraveNewSlop
      @BraveNewSlop  18 дней назад

      Let the fear be your beacon. If you're not feeling it, you're not doing it! :)

  • @roxas2k991
    @roxas2k991 19 дней назад +26

    why ai images? the video would've been actually pretty good

    • @BraveNewSlop
      @BraveNewSlop  19 дней назад +11

      I'm not an absolutist about AI. It's contextual for me. I don't have an issue using AI art for humanist content praising and recommending a human made movie. If anything, I think AI democratizes communication by helping people translate thoughts to words, and words to images. Both of which aid people who aren't naturally gifted storytellers. When AI is used to aid positive art, positive communication, I see it as a tool being used for good. Just thinking aloud here.

    • @babypuppykitty
      @babypuppykitty 19 дней назад +9

      I think the video definitely did not benefit at all from the ai images and i do think there are serious existential questions around their use, however the content of this micro essay was in no way harmed by the images and roxas could stand to calm his word choice; the video WAS pretty good

    • @BraveNewSlop
      @BraveNewSlop  19 дней назад

      @@babypuppykitty That's fair. Sometimes AI art can be used as a lazy crutch.
      And agreed, I don't want there to be zero conversation about the boundaries of AI art. Appreciate the comment!

    • @mc_cheshire
      @mc_cheshire 18 дней назад +2

      @@BraveNewSlop I am not an absolutist on AI either, but I don't think they added anything of value to the video, and their presence felt a bit jarring and distracted me from the point you were making. There's definite moral arguments against it as well.

    • @BraveNewSlop
      @BraveNewSlop  18 дней назад

      @@mc_cheshire That's good to know. I'm not so looped into the discourse around it.

  • @jongilbertson2106
    @jongilbertson2106 18 дней назад +5

    What was interesting is that the hero did not really know why the accused was innocent, he just wanted him to receive a proper defense, and not just get railroaded.
    Imitation is flattery, and this plot has been copied many times. I remember when The Fonz was the lone dissenter on Happy Days and used his knowledge of English motorcycles to prove the accused’ innocence. There was an episode of Monk that followed the plot line.

    • @BraveNewSlop
      @BraveNewSlop  18 дней назад

      I liked that too, that he's admitting there's risk to their decision either way. No clean easy answer. Was this before or after Fonz jumped the shark? I've only ever seen clips of Happy Days on RUclips.

    • @jongilbertson2106
      @jongilbertson2106 17 дней назад +2

      @ pre-shark jump. I remember Mr. C was also in the jury, because all the Happy Days characters do everything together.

    • @BraveNewSlop
      @BraveNewSlop  17 дней назад

      Lol. Are you an old-timer who watched it when it aired? Or watched it on DVD/streaming

    • @jongilbertson2106
      @jongilbertson2106 17 дней назад +1

      @@BraveNewSlopin between your options. I saw it when Happy Days was in syndication.

    • @BraveNewSlop
      @BraveNewSlop  17 дней назад

      @@jongilbertson2106 Ah, my rare but treasured middle-aged demographic. Some of the sillier stuff may not be up your alley, but will definitely have more serious stuff too.

  • @themicrobrandexpert
    @themicrobrandexpert 18 дней назад +2

    Beautiful, man! Here, I stand with you! With a subscription for now.

    • @BraveNewSlop
      @BraveNewSlop  18 дней назад +1

      Happy to have you! We are the beginning of a very long journey ;)

    • @BraveNewSlop
      @BraveNewSlop  17 дней назад +1

      (Subbed ya back of course ;)

    • @themicrobrandexpert
      @themicrobrandexpert 17 дней назад

      @@BraveNewSlop, awww, thank you!

  • @Robopercy
    @Robopercy 19 дней назад +4

    I completely forgot my hs social studies teacher showed this movie in class years ago.. Thinking about it, he showed a few black n white political-ish movies and he was overall a chill guy 😂

    • @BraveNewSlop
      @BraveNewSlop  19 дней назад +1

      Lol, it's a great movie. I remember really liking most of my social studies teachers, tho not sure if we ever watched this one.
      When you get older you realize life really is like 12 Angry Men. Everyone complains about the horrible things they see around them--at work, in their friend groups, in their families, etc. But very few people want to risk confrontation, judgment, discomfort to use their voice to talk to the people perpetrating those things they think are wrong.

  • @zevfarkas5120
    @zevfarkas5120 17 дней назад +2

    How many juries have reached conclusions simply because they wanted to be done with it?

  • @jaguarrescue8
    @jaguarrescue8 20 дней назад +3

    Insightful ideas, I appreciate this video

  • @Gio-ys8fz
    @Gio-ys8fz 19 дней назад +5

    great video man just try to not read coments too much i think you shoud post your ideas

    • @BraveNewSlop
      @BraveNewSlop  19 дней назад +2

      Appreciate it man. I actually am committed to reading comments and replying as much as possible for my own growth. Engaging with comments both thickens my skin, and helps me grow as a person. I've had a lot of exchanges with people where I showed them I genuinely wanted to understand them, and am acting in good faith. They wound up losing some of the anger or hatred from their comments and the exchange ended pleasantly. I want the ability to speak my mind, not fear hatred, and meet hatred without hatred of my own. :)

  • @BraveNewSlop
    @BraveNewSlop  20 дней назад +1

    Which character are you most like?

    • @jaguarrescue8
      @jaguarrescue8 20 дней назад +1

      @@BraveNewSlop I’m going to have to watch the full movie and get back to you on this

    • @BraveNewSlop
      @BraveNewSlop  20 дней назад +1

      @@jaguarrescue8 Check it out and be honest! :)

    • @ice-iu3vv
      @ice-iu3vv 4 дня назад

      jack klugman.

    • @BraveNewSlop
      @BraveNewSlop  3 дня назад

      @ He does such a good job of portraying initial insecurity escalated to moral confidence. Definitely a standout performance.

  • @danielhodgkins2325
    @danielhodgkins2325 18 дней назад +1

    Always feels good to be the one to lead a group decision (what movie to watch, where to eat) and everyone ends up happy 😅

    • @BraveNewSlop
      @BraveNewSlop  18 дней назад

      Gotta lead even when it sucks ;)

  • @elvismansoncpa
    @elvismansoncpa 19 дней назад +5

    12 Angry Men is one of my all time favorites. I've seen it a dozen times. But imagine there was one more scene, a twist at the end where it turns out the boy was guilty. See how everything changes.

    • @BraveNewSlop
      @BraveNewSlop  19 дней назад

      Agreed, it would be really interesting to think of it way. Then it almost becomes about another kind of conformity. Because when you do watch it critically, some of the points "the heroes" make are very weak.

    • @rossneil4413
      @rossneil4413 19 дней назад +3

      That’d kinda ruin the whole film

    • @blipblop5757
      @blipblop5757 18 дней назад

      Imagine if the twist was Henry Fonda was the real killer. When I saw the movie for the first time, I thought the reason Fonda was so convinced was that he was the actual killer and I thought that would be the twist.

    • @rossneil4413
      @rossneil4413 18 дней назад +3

      @@blipblop5757 that’d be a good twist but then it’s a totally different movie.

    • @BraveNewSlop
      @BraveNewSlop  18 дней назад

      @@blipblop5757 Lolllll that would be the craziest twist of all time. You make a completely serious, classically written moral drama and then you pull out a twist at the end.

  • @zevfarkas5120
    @zevfarkas5120 17 дней назад +1

    Your life is in the hands of twelve people who were not smart enough to get out of jury duty.

    • @BraveNewSlop
      @BraveNewSlop  15 дней назад

      Lol

    • @Shorty_Lickens
      @Shorty_Lickens 13 дней назад +2

      in the original story and the movie, the idea was they were intelligent people but they walked in with bias and prejudices. Thats the drama, and its beautifully made.