I quite enjoy the idea of Clover diving into the underground with vengeance in their heart, only to be floored by the reality of the situation... just a bit too late
I imagine their idea of what monsters are like differs a lot from what they ended up meeting. Especially considering they would end up just living with Toriel if not for Flowey’s intervention.
This is probably why the Martlet fight gives you the option to apologize. With all other monsters up to this point, you can at least see where Clover would feel threatened. Random encounters feeling like ambushes, Dalv's warnings sounding sinister, etc. But with Martlet, there's no excuse. She's trying to help you escape from some unknown threat, oblivious to the fact that that threat is Clover themself, and doesn't even fight back for a good while. There's little to no excuse for fighting her, and Clover would probably recognize that.
I think to even encounter El Baliador you would have to not kill everyone monster before your encounter with him. Think of him like Napstablook. If you kill everyone monster before encountering Napstablook you don’t fight him.
Yea if you deplete the kill count before his area he’s not there but I had the misfortune or battling him before I had finished it He was the one I felt the least guilty (but still really guilty) about cause I hated his boss fight on pacifist
The fact that Axis saying "YOU STILL [freaking] SUCK" when pretty much none of his text is formatted like that makes me think that he actually did cuss Clover out right there, but Chujin programmed him with a profanity filter.
I like how the genocide route in Yellow actually has a degree of in-universe justification for why Clover would go through with it; they're on a mission to punish humanity's old enemies for the _murder of several children._ Even if it becomes obvious pretty quickly that most of the people in your path are innocent of the crime, if you get into Clover's headspace it isn't hard to imagine someone like that hardening their heart out of rage, ingrained prejudice and a desire for retribution. In the original game, choosing genocide felt like you were just some deranged asshole flying into a killing spree for no reason at all lol.
In Undertale it is justified by it being not the character's own decision, but directly yours...Player's. The game judges YOU personally, not the human. The player themselves gets tired of replaying the game the nice way and tries something new for once.
@@almas4663 That's true, and it was an interesting exploration of players' insatiable want for "more game" at any cost; I just like the new angle they gave Genocide in Yellow. It feels more like a decision your _character_ might choose to make, rather than being a meta thing.
@@Daniel_Lancelin Exactly! I love it too! Personally, I found myself enjoying UTY even more than UT itself, and we shall see if Deltarune can top the bar set narratively, visually, gameplay-wise and musically
@@DromusTH No it won't. In both UT and UTY it will just brush it off as self defence...Then call you out. Then blame you for something horrible...And only if you do the unthinkable - the game will call you sick
Nah it's ok, the Neutral ending in this game just ends up with Flowey erasing everything anyways, there aren't diverse neutral endings like in regular undertale (which is kinda dissapointing)
@@darksoulsismycityTrue but they still experience the suffering after you spared them And if you say "it doesn't matter because their memories will be reset", this is just saying that monsters and humans' feelings don't matter because we'll all die at some point
@@Firefly256 If you keep resetting long enough, from your perspective those 'things' wouldnt even be really alive anymore. Just another set piece of scenery. So its all about perspective
I like the thought that some characters actually *understand* why Clover would be killing monsters and then suddenly realize what it's been entailing. Martlet even explicitly says that Clover was just expressing self defence, understanding not only that Clover wouldn't *want* to die, but that Clover also wasn't aware that the monsters were just misunderstood innocents.
"Innocent" is a joke right? Axis is a murder death machine. Ceroba performed lab experiments to make monsters stronger and ultimately be another death machine. Martlet is a solider trained to deal with and kill humans
Strange how striking Dalv down is easily kinder, easily more merciful than... Sparing his life. It's hard to call murder the "nicer" option, but at this point? It's too late. The little he had left in his self-imposed isolation is gone, you took everything away without care. Don't force him to live in that reality, too.
Lmao, I like how even on Genocide there are options to be even more of a prick and that you're punished for it. Like Genocide itself can be written off as Clover avenging the other fallen humans, but apologizing and then attacking her really is inexcusable. Amazing.
When it comes to what happens when you abort the pacifist or genocide routes, I think this game's got Undertale beat. I mean, in Undertale, if you abandon the genocide route in Snowdin, Papyrus acts like you did the puzzles even though you didn't, and if you abandon in Waterfall, Alphys still wants to help you even though she was supposedly helping everyone evacuate.
Yeah, in Undertale they act like everything's fine and you did nothing wrong, in here, they are just weirded out, but most of them still fcking hate you because you ruined so many lives and you just suddenly stop
UTY does also have consistency problems when it comes to aborting routes too. Such as with aborting pacifist by killing axis. Ceroba will leave as expected but all the planned pacifist events that should have happened, like Starlo sending you a letter and him and Ed investigating Ceroba's house. Cease to exist just because you're placed on neutral, even though they would have been happening before you even fought Axis. Martlet's private letter is also pretty jarring as it should take her a decent amount of time to know you have killed someone.
Precisely! As much as i love the story writing in Undertale, this is definitely one of its main downsides. UTY definitely handles the whole "route abortion" situation better.
@@Turbulation1 Good point. I didn't know about this. Still, I don't think that's as bad as the two things I mentioned about Undertale. Also, I just think it's funny that in both Undertale and Undertale Yellow, destroying a robot has basically the same consequences as killing a living monster.
5:05 “You’re getting annoyed by the music” when there is no music almost sounds like Clover’s pissed we forced them to spare Bailador, even though canonically that isn’t actually the case
NoooOooOoOooo!! Why won't they forgive Clover after he killed her best friend and comitted genocide 😭?!? More seriously, it's kinda strange that you can't spare Ceroba. She's just incapacited like Axis. I haven't tried tough since the fight was too hard and I wanted to continue.
@@omniscientomnipresent5500 I guess that Ceroba won't accept your mercy unlike Axis. (Which make sense, Axis only fight you because you want to kill him, not the other way around. And Ceroba just hate you)
i assume you mean genocide instead of pacifist, but i can confirm that this is true, what i did was kill everyone except decibat, this was after i reset my first real neutral route after fighting Dalv due to feeling too guilty to left him all alone, and by fighting Dalv a bit. afterwards he'll stop talking and will keep fighting until either of us dies.
There's a theory going around that the Integrity soul could be Clover's twin sister, which would not only explain why Dalv mistakes them for Integrity, but also why their LV goes so high when fighting Axis, it also gives them a more personal reason for going into the underground seeking vengeance in the first place
I think Clover is just THAT serious about getting “justice” for the human souls. I mean they instantly turn to attack flowey the second he slips up and implies he wants the souls for himself
One small hole with that theory: How would Clover "know" that Axis killed Integrity? We, the player, remember what happened in previous runs. But Clover doesn't. And Axis only mentions he killed a human. You can only learn which human it was if you visit Ceroba's old house, but you don't do that in this run.
@@yacine_607 Uh...? Yeah, I'm saying that Clover DOES remember what happened IN the genocide run, DURING the genocide run. But they wouldn't remember a prior pacifist run.
@@graysongdl They could always assume it was integrity, considering how little Axis has rusted, he still seems in pretty good shape before you shoot him But then again, who knows the order of souls that falls down, because im pretty sure perseverance falls in between justice and integrity
"yeah im sorry lol yeah it was self defense it wasnt my fault martlet they just kept running into my bullets the wind made my finger pull the trigger on my gun when it was perfectly on their heads okay it wasnt my fault BELIEVE ME" 10/10 apology would apology again
She made me abandon genocide twice. The first time because I loved her too much to go through with it. The second time because I suck at this game and ragequit.
@@cantaloupegodling352 4 months late, but same here; Martlet endgame was so much of a nightmare for me, I stopped counting the amount of times I died to her.
yeah I wonder, cus Flowey we mentions that you could leave the ruins destroyed and not face much in terms of consequences because barely no one goes there
That’s what I did and it’s neutral. Flowey has extra dialogue where he’s like “it was starting to seem like you understood, then you went all soft on me” something like thay
Fun fact: You can spare Dalv on the genocide run but it will still continue as the genocide run, by killing everyone in the underground. You have truly made Dalv alone.
On my first attempt at a genocide run I genuinely couldn't bring myself to try to kill Martlet. She doesn't even attack back after you hit her the first few times. She's just too lovable I couldn't take it so I spared her. I didn't save and came back the next day after steeling myself. She also ended my second genocide attempt. In a much more direct manner.
The way axis tells you you freaking suck it is like that alphys ending in undertale where she tells you she would want to kill you when she had the chance
@@OblivionCreator Aw drats. There were quite a few enemies I would've liked to pummel first for dialogue and what not if I knew postponing mass murder had an effect. Guess that's something to look forward to in a later run. Thanks for the answer though
@@alextheidiot8071 NAHHH it's fiiiiine. Not like any of them will remember what happened to them later on anyways. Though if they did, they would probably be really mad that I first spared them all, then killed them all, and later plan to kill some of them in that order out of pure curiosity.
What would happen if you managed to reach the NEW HOME area in pacifist to fight cereba but you went back to an area where you fight a monster then kill it and go back, what would happen?
@@Maannnn... Well, i guess you can still get either a true or false pacifist ending depending on whether you kill or spare Ceroba after the final fight, but yea, neutral ending is pretty much impossible after that point.
Wow. Now I feel like a bad guy for having enjoyed killing him on my genocide run. He gave me a lot of trouble on my pacifist run so I really hated the guy by the time I was back to the same spot on my second playthrough. Am I the only one? 😅
@@yourlocalchloesimp Я больше скажу. После 40+ траев на пацифисте у меня с него подгорело настолько, что я плюнул на весь пацифизм и дал ему то, что он действительно заслужил... 4 лв неплохо апают Кловера)
Wait how did you fight the rhythm boss guy? I literally did not see this guy in my entire geno run. I've heard about his fight but I thought it was really like a pacifist-exclusive character or something... I'm already fighting (the final boss) in my genocide playthrough too so...
He doesn't show up if you've already cleared the area, as if he was a normal enemy, so if you want to kill him you have to wait to grind until after fighting him.
@@ZombieManF ah dang; I know that I missed out on at least half of the normal enemies by exhausting the count immediately in every monster room... but even a boss fight gets cut from it? Welp, I guess I got to keep more items for the final boss then but, still kinda sucks that I missed out on a particularly unique battle
@@ZombieManF my theory is that, the ''special'' enemy's they heard about your massacre and ran away or Knew they were next if they fought you so, they ran away
I got the boss cause I didn't know that when the sandstorm stops monsters could spawn so I kinda got to the cave and got it (I got confused as hell when it said there were still monsters left I backtracked through the entire cave and map till I reached the sandstorm area lol)
Hmmm… what if you kill everyone but martlet? Outcome would be the same but Cerobas still alive… would martlet not attempt to kill you just because you spared her but no one else?
It's not a true genocide. I failed the run because of this, but they didn't kill *all* of the robots. Doing so makes Axis not confess to him killing a human, thus not making Clover beat him inside out with the handle of their revolver.
@@solisruben296 That makes sense, it's a shame I made a back-up of my savefile *after* killing every robot so I don't see a way to get this outcome, I'll replay it another time though
@@Mart1n192 and it's a shame I went in completely blind so I didn't realize that I accidentally abandoned my run too. It's worse because I was following what flowey said of the robots being a waste of time.
I haven't played the game yet, but it seemed like the vampire was the only one where you actually aborted the genocide run. The others felt like if you spared them in a normal run. They didn't really freak out like I thought they would. Did the creator of the video reload their save after the vampire then kill him in order to continue genocide run or did they continue on after sparing and keep doing a killing spree but now on a neutral run.
But i just think its kinda weird. Why would sparing something that doesnt even matter or have actual real feelings ruin a genocide? Flowey said it himself. If someone actually listened to flowey in a genocide and expected to just get out faster of the steamworks.. they would have to do it all again by loading back.
Because Axis only feels pressured into mentioning the human he killed if you eliminate everything in Steamworks. Otherwise, he has no reason to bring it up, so Clover never has a surge of LOVE, thus doesn't try to kill Martlet and so no Zenith
Gotta say, this is honestly depressing¡, like kudos to the creator for giving the dialogue such emotion Like Dalv's is just sad, and i even feel bad for el bailador
Dalv hurts a lot. Only he will have witnessed those horrors, he’ll always wonder why you decided he was important enough to spare or somehow more worth of sparing. Like wow man. You could make a fanfic outta this/hj
Odio la pelea ritmica con El Bailador en la ruta neutral y en la ruta genocida me dije "disfrutare matarte Bailador" pero sus ultimas palabras antes de matarlo en geno me hizo sentir muy mal, él solo queria ser un heroe haciendo que todos tengan siempre una sonrisa en la cara
If you spare bosses in genocide, there wont be an PERFECT genocide but rather paci-cide. AND HELP I CANT KILL MARTLET GENOCIDE :CRY: (not the last bost the snowdin one)
You can spare Dalv in the geno run without turning it into a neutral, you can get the silver scarf since the npc’s needed are there, then you can start geno again without any repercussions.
I haven’t played the game yet but I think this results in Clover being locked out of LV 19 for the rest of the run and will be on Neutral (Aborted Genocide) route And from what I’ve read Axis does not talk about the human if the player hasn’t gotten the “But nobody came.” for this area
Honestly this shows how evil you truly are as the people of the underground are willing to spare you even when you killed all of their friends and family, except a select few
@@Tyson-i7r Actually most monsters didn’t do anything and are just victims to this. We can also assume that the children (except yellow) died around where the equipment was.
@@dylanzlol7293 Yes but do we know where he killed him? Also if anything it proves my point that most monsters didn’t do anything. We know that Axis killed cause of his programming and that only 1 person designed him
5:33 im sorry. that attack took me 2 hours of practicing with cheats in order to nohit. how did you just... do that? also the thumbnails pretty spoilery but how did you do that so casually?
@@dracibatic2433 Multiple unusual movements were done, such as jittering left and right often, almost always dashing a frame or two away from damage, and not dashing in situations where it’d be the obvious choice in favor of doing dodges that simply don’t seem optimal. (In particular, check times like 0:30 and 3:00) There’s no definitive proof, but it’s extremely questionable when viewed with an introspective eye.
*remembers how martlet becomes a final boss yet your full on permitted to spare her* ...honestly... why? It doesn't make the final boss any easier in fact I'd argue it just makes it harder by proxy of one less lv
I quite enjoy the idea of Clover diving into the underground with vengeance in their heart, only to be floored by the reality of the situation... just a bit too late
Not a bad idea, clover does feel actual emotions and you do see a bit of his character in uty compared to frisk, so this makes sense
I imagine their idea of what monsters are like differs a lot from what they ended up meeting. Especially considering they would end up just living with Toriel if not for Flowey’s intervention.
This is probably why the Martlet fight gives you the option to apologize. With all other monsters up to this point, you can at least see where Clover would feel threatened. Random encounters feeling like ambushes, Dalv's warnings sounding sinister, etc. But with Martlet, there's no excuse. She's trying to help you escape from some unknown threat, oblivious to the fact that that threat is Clover themself, and doesn't even fight back for a good while. There's little to no excuse for fighting her, and Clover would probably recognize that.
@timmyreobed5043 yeah he would but at the point JUSTICE MUST BE DONE
nice madotsuki pfp
"Feel free to trip and fall to your death on the way out." - GlaDOS, probably
GlaDOS would be proud honestly
Axis is GlaDOS’s adopted child
@@MasterIsabelle and consider that they are both underground... perhaps the undertale underground and aperture science are connected
@@MasterIsabelle wait til he hear what she said about an adopted child
Axis is both wheatley and glados
I no joke felt the most guilty killing El Baliador in geno. He just gets so sad my heart could barely take it
really? I thought he just didn't show up at all
I think to even encounter El Baliador you would have to not kill everyone monster before your encounter with him. Think of him like Napstablook. If you kill everyone monster before encountering Napstablook you don’t fight him.
Yea if you deplete the kill count before his area he’s not there but I had the misfortune or battling him before I had finished it
He was the one I felt the least guilty (but still really guilty) about cause I hated his boss fight on pacifist
me too I felt so bad seeing him just quit dancing and just letting me attacking him
Fuck that guy. His fight in pacifist is so freaking annoying.
The fact that Axis saying "YOU STILL [freaking] SUCK" when pretty much none of his text is formatted like that makes me think that he actually did cuss Clover out right there, but Chujin programmed him with a profanity filter.
He also says "[screw] YOU" after you destroy his generators in neutral/pacifist so you're probably correct.
Huh didn’t think much of his Bracket text until now
he does it so many times its so funny
He does it a lot. Like
"IM REACHING UNHEARD LEVELS OF [ticked]."
Yeah, Axis literally pulls out a Spamton move on us.
I like how the genocide route in Yellow actually has a degree of in-universe justification for why Clover would go through with it; they're on a mission to punish humanity's old enemies for the _murder of several children._ Even if it becomes obvious pretty quickly that most of the people in your path are innocent of the crime, if you get into Clover's headspace it isn't hard to imagine someone like that hardening their heart out of rage, ingrained prejudice and a desire for retribution. In the original game, choosing genocide felt like you were just some deranged asshole flying into a killing spree for no reason at all lol.
In Undertale it is justified by it being not the character's own decision, but directly yours...Player's.
The game judges YOU personally, not the human.
The player themselves gets tired of replaying the game the nice way and tries something new for once.
@@almas4663 That's true, and it was an interesting exploration of players' insatiable want for "more game" at any cost; I just like the new angle they gave Genocide in Yellow. It feels more like a decision your _character_ might choose to make, rather than being a meta thing.
@@Daniel_Lancelin Exactly! I love it too! Personally, I found myself enjoying UTY even more than UT itself, and we shall see if Deltarune can top the bar set narratively, visually, gameplay-wise and musically
@@almas4663 No it's not if you even kill a single person the game will call you sick.
@@DromusTH No it won't. In both UT and UTY it will just brush it off as self defence...Then call you out. Then blame you for something horrible...And only if you do the unthinkable - the game will call you sick
In some sense this is actually worst than just killing them, now they’re all alone, suffering as they realize their friends are dead.
Nah it's ok, the Neutral ending in this game just ends up with Flowey erasing everything anyways, there aren't diverse neutral endings like in regular undertale (which is kinda dissapointing)
@@darksoulsismycityTrue but they still experience the suffering after you spared them
And if you say "it doesn't matter because their memories will be reset", this is just saying that monsters and humans' feelings don't matter because we'll all die at some point
@@Firefly256 If you keep resetting long enough, from your perspective those 'things' wouldnt even be really alive anymore. Just another set piece of scenery. So its all about perspective
I like the thought that some characters actually *understand* why Clover would be killing monsters and then suddenly realize what it's been entailing. Martlet even explicitly says that Clover was just expressing self defence, understanding not only that Clover wouldn't *want* to die, but that Clover also wasn't aware that the monsters were just misunderstood innocents.
"Innocent" is a joke right? Axis is a murder death machine. Ceroba performed lab experiments to make monsters stronger and ultimately be another death machine. Martlet is a solider trained to deal with and kill humans
@@monotone5059a lot of monsters *are* innocent though. Not all of them, but a lot of them.
@@monotone5059Most evil monster in the Underground: I felt bad about killing that teenager ngl
@@monotone5059 Martlet just wanted the job for money. She didn't want to hurt anyone.
@@The-S-H3lf-EaterI don't even feel like they trained her any
Honestly, sparing Dalv during genocide is more evil then killing him.
true, for you are leaving him to be in the ruins to be all alone and he never comes to snowdin
Honestly, it shouldn’t abort genocide
@@Speak22wastakenwell, if Genocide was a Route of pure Evil, then yes. But Genocide is exactly what it's called. Genocide. You kill everything.
how@CRINGEassdude
Sparing Dalv actually doesnt end genocide, i tried it recently
Strange how striking Dalv down is easily kinder, easily more merciful than... Sparing his life. It's hard to call murder the "nicer" option, but at this point? It's too late. The little he had left in his self-imposed isolation is gone, you took everything away without care. Don't force him to live in that reality, too.
If you apologize to Martlet then attack her, it actually starts her fight early
Lmao, I like how even on Genocide there are options to be even more of a prick and that you're punished for it. Like Genocide itself can be written off as Clover avenging the other fallen humans, but apologizing and then attacking her really is inexcusable. Amazing.
@snacksfaggot Not really, since you only have 1 free attack instead of 3 (or 4? i don't remember).
@@trekkinmain4974 They don't avenge anyone by attacking random monsters that have nothing to do with the others deaths.
@@sheogorath6834 from a skewed sense of justice it could be viewed as revenge
@@trekkinmain4974 For Asgore, yes. For everyone else? Not really.
They're just fucked up.
Axis' parting shots are hilarious
Also, first ever time i've seen someone no-hit his final attack
that attack is fucked dude it took me so long
When it comes to what happens when you abort the pacifist or genocide routes, I think this game's got Undertale beat. I mean, in Undertale, if you abandon the genocide route in Snowdin, Papyrus acts like you did the puzzles even though you didn't, and if you abandon in Waterfall, Alphys still wants to help you even though she was supposedly helping everyone evacuate.
Yeah, in Undertale they act like everything's fine and you did nothing wrong, in here, they are just weirded out, but most of them still fcking hate you because you ruined so many lives and you just suddenly stop
UTY does also have consistency problems when it comes to aborting routes too.
Such as with aborting pacifist by killing axis.
Ceroba will leave as expected but all the planned pacifist events that should have happened, like Starlo sending you a letter and him and Ed investigating Ceroba's house. Cease to exist just because you're placed on neutral, even though they would have been happening before you even fought Axis.
Martlet's private letter is also pretty jarring as it should take her a decent amount of time to know you have killed someone.
Precisely! As much as i love the story writing in Undertale, this is definitely one of its main downsides.
UTY definitely handles the whole "route abortion" situation better.
@@Turbulation1 Good point. I didn't know about this. Still, I don't think that's as bad as the two things I mentioned about Undertale. Also, I just think it's funny that in both Undertale and Undertale Yellow, destroying a robot has basically the same consequences as killing a living monster.
@@spencerhiginbotham7538Being fair, Mettaton IS a monster with a robotic body, so that is understandable at least
Marlet’s made my heart hurt
“You’re scared… This was probably self defense.”
monsters attacked first tho
@@Milkguy33 They attacked CLOVER first.
5:05 “You’re getting annoyed by the music” when there is no music almost sounds like Clover’s pissed we forced them to spare Bailador, even though canonically that isn’t actually the case
On Martlet or Ceroba’s genocide fight, the yellow name means they’re on their last hit.
Not that they are seperable.
NoooOooOoOooo!!
Why won't they forgive Clover after he killed her best friend and comitted genocide 😭?!?
More seriously, it's kinda strange that you can't spare Ceroba. She's just incapacited like Axis. I haven't tried tough since the fight was too hard and I wanted to continue.
@@omniscientomnipresent5500 I guess that Ceroba won't accept your mercy unlike Axis. (Which make sense, Axis only fight you because you want to kill him, not the other way around. And Ceroba just hate you)
@@sheogorath6834 I remember you
I think I have seen you on deltarune comment sections
I think you are smart
@@AldinRamichuman. i remember you're deltarune youtube comments
@@xmorphias6888 nice one
The experimentation that people do with undertale just makes so much of this fun
And now,you’re the yellow soul
Another noted thing is that if you abort Genocide by sparing Decibat, Dalv has some special dialogue
i assume you mean genocide instead of pacifist, but i can confirm that this is true, what i did was kill everyone except decibat, this was after i reset my first real neutral route after fighting Dalv due to feeling too guilty to left him all alone, and by fighting Dalv a bit. afterwards he'll stop talking and will keep fighting until either of us dies.
@@GoniMineCraft oops. This is what happens when I type while tired
What did he say
@@Maannnn...He said the same thing but with pacifist where genocide is I assume.
how do you do that though, decibat dissapears after the kill counter is exhausted just like napstablook
There's a theory going around that the Integrity soul could be Clover's twin sister, which would not only explain why Dalv mistakes them for Integrity, but also why their LV goes so high when fighting Axis, it also gives them a more personal reason for going into the underground seeking vengeance in the first place
I think Clover is just THAT serious about getting “justice” for the human souls. I mean they instantly turn to attack flowey the second he slips up and implies he wants the souls for himself
One small hole with that theory: How would Clover "know" that Axis killed Integrity? We, the player, remember what happened in previous runs. But Clover doesn't. And Axis only mentions he killed a human. You can only learn which human it was if you visit Ceroba's old house, but you don't do that in this run.
@@graysongdlI think clover remembers the genocide scince he's the one to reset
@@yacine_607 Uh...? Yeah, I'm saying that Clover DOES remember what happened IN the genocide run, DURING the genocide run. But they wouldn't remember a prior pacifist run.
@@graysongdl They could always assume it was integrity, considering how little Axis has rusted, he still seems in pretty good shape before you shoot him
But then again, who knows the order of souls that falls down, because im pretty sure perseverance falls in between justice and integrity
I like how every boss is like: You suck!
But Martlet is like: Okay :D
Only Axis is like that
Dalv is like: I'll be fine without them
And Bailador is like:Uhm...i'm just gonna leave, bye
the way clover just stares at the screen after axis just roasts him is so funny
What if you kill some of them on the pacifist route? In particular, I'm wondering what happens if you do the pacifist route then kill AXIS.
It would go to neutral route.
Ceroba gets pissed at you :)
WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT TO MY POOR BABY AXIS
@@theseer4439 I mean I figured that, I just wondered what Ceroba would do.
@@ZombieManF but as flowey said the machines arent monster
"Feel free to trip and fall to yout death on the way out" COLD
"yeah im sorry lol yeah it was self defense it wasnt my fault martlet they just kept running into my bullets the wind made my finger pull the trigger on my gun when it was perfectly on their heads okay it wasnt my fault BELIEVE ME"
10/10 apology would apology again
It was self defense. They shot me with magic, I shot them with bullets. The bullets won.
@@alzhanvoid Okay, that is funny jsksjs
Honestly that's an understandable response from AXIS
Leave it to Martlet to make me abandon genocide.
Same lol! The final part of the genocide with her, though i still enjoy liking the game.
She made me abandon genocide twice. The first time because I loved her too much to go through with it. The second time because I suck at this game and ragequit.
@@cantaloupegodling352 4 months late, but same here; Martlet endgame was so much of a nightmare for me, I stopped counting the amount of times I died to her.
I've been wondering what happens if you go Genocide in the Ruins and then do Pacifist after that point. I'd assume Neutral, but I still wanna see.
yeah I wonder, cus Flowey we mentions that you could leave the ruins destroyed and not face much in terms of consequences because barely no one goes there
That’s what I did and it’s neutral. Flowey has extra dialogue where he’s like “it was starting to seem like you understood, then you went all soft on me” something like thay
Thanks for sharing@@animated_finn
Ceroba doesn't do her plan after you spare Starlo and you pose with him early, then neutral after that.
@snacksfaggot Ceroba leaves you and doesn't go through the Steamworks with you.
I like how each boss have reasonable reactions to you sparing after all the killing you did up to that point.
Fun fact: You can spare Dalv on the genocide run but it will still continue as the genocide run, by killing everyone in the underground. You have truly made Dalv alone.
you can salvage a genocide run after sparing everyone in the ruins
Clover: **Apologize**
Also Clover: **Back to blasting again**
😂
fun fact: you can continue the genocide route if you spare dalv (and it allows you to get the silver scarf!)
That's fucking hilarious
Me: spares dalv
Also me: get's back on genocide route
Killing five monsters and calling it a day should be a ending
**Casually attempts to spare "The Zenith"...**
"Feel free to trip and fall to your death on the way out."
On my first attempt at a genocide run I genuinely couldn't bring myself to try to kill Martlet. She doesn't even attack back after you hit her the first few times. She's just too lovable I couldn't take it so I spared her. I didn't save and came back the next day after steeling myself.
She also ended my second genocide attempt. In a much more direct manner.
“Feel free to trip and fall to your death on the way out” is such a cold but hilarious line
The way axis tells you you freaking suck it is like that alphys ending in undertale where she tells you she would want to kill you when she had the chance
Axis is a goddamn savage bruh
4:06 how tf did you get this guy to fight you on genocide? He made a single sound but didnt bother me at all while going through the area
If you kill everybody in the area (i.e getting 'But Nobody Came') before meeting him, he never shows up. Else he'll show up and you can fight him.
@@OblivionCreator Aw drats. There were quite a few enemies I would've liked to pummel first for dialogue and what not if I knew postponing mass murder had an effect. Guess that's something to look forward to in a later run. Thanks for the answer though
@@Doobie-kx8fk God maybe we ARE sick, kinda screwed up even if I understand it
@@alextheidiot8071 NAHHH it's fiiiiine. Not like any of them will remember what happened to them later on anyways. Though if they did, they would probably be really mad that I first spared them all, then killed them all, and later plan to kill some of them in that order out of pure curiosity.
@@Doobie-kx8fkI mean this will at most just leave a deja vu efect on them, no biggie
What would happen if you managed to reach the NEW HOME area in pacifist to fight cereba but you went back to an area where you fight a monster then kill it and go back, what would happen?
If you meet matlet at the mtt hotel rooftop you *could not change the ending at all*
As the game says, "*if you proceed, you cannot turn back*"
I think once you've defeated Axis, you can't encounter random enemies any more. So if you're doing pacifist, you're locked in after that point.
just like Mettaton, Axis is a soft lock, once you spare him in Pacifist or kill him in genocide you cannot abort the route
you cant leave the ug hotel area after meeting martlet on the rooftop
@@Maannnn... Well, i guess you can still get either a true or false pacifist ending depending on whether you kill or spare Ceroba after the final fight, but yea, neutral ending is pretty much impossible after that point.
It's kinda wild that killing at least SOMEONE is neccessary to get the cool final boss instead of the shitty one
I feel so bad for El Bailador 🥲
Yeah same I think his death hurt the most for me
Wow. Now I feel like a bad guy for having enjoyed killing him on my genocide run.
He gave me a lot of trouble on my pacifist run so I really hated the guy by the time I was back to the same spot on my second playthrough. Am I the only one? 😅
Me too😢
@@yourlocalchloesimp Я больше скажу. После 40+ траев на пацифисте у меня с него подгорело настолько, что я плюнул на весь пацифизм и дал ему то, что он действительно заслужил... 4 лв неплохо апают Кловера)
They are all so confused by showing mercy
Fun fact: you can spare Dalv in geno go get the silver scarf then continue with geno which makes ceroba a lot easier
6 defense and 2 hp per turn makes ceroba easier than 7 defense? I highly doubt that but okay
won't gonna be a neutral tho?
@@j3wos Dalv is the only monster you can spare and still continue with a genocide run.
@@j3woseven if you spare Dalv, you should still stay on Genocide as long as the kill count is fulfilled in every area
@@kozolith2121con el pañuelo dorado solo me tomo 2 intento derrotar a ceroba
axis was so personal with this one 💀
martlet made me reset just cause she's too cute (she's too darn loveable that stupid little burb)
Also the dialogues change if you spare minibosses like the bat in the ruins
Fun fact if your spare Dalv you can reenter genocide in snowding you can get the Bunny scarf and later continúe genocide
Wait how did you fight the rhythm boss guy? I literally did not see this guy in my entire geno run.
I've heard about his fight but I thought it was really like a pacifist-exclusive character or something...
I'm already fighting (the final boss) in my genocide playthrough too so...
You cna fight him if you dont kill everyone before his room
He doesn't show up if you've already cleared the area, as if he was a normal enemy, so if you want to kill him you have to wait to grind until after fighting him.
@@ZombieManF ah dang; I know that I missed out on at least half of the normal enemies by exhausting the count immediately in every monster room... but even a boss fight gets cut from it?
Welp, I guess I got to keep more items for the final boss then but, still kinda sucks that I missed out on a particularly unique battle
@@ZombieManF my theory is that, the ''special'' enemy's they heard about your massacre and ran away or Knew they were next if they fought you so, they ran away
I got the boss cause I didn't know that when the sandstorm stops monsters could spawn so I kinda got to the cave and got it (I got confused as hell when it said there were still monsters left I backtracked through the entire cave and map till I reached the sandstorm area lol)
I don't understand how can you spare axis in genocide. Doesn't your soul goes on full kamehameha after hearing axis killing the human?
You can spare him if you miss some robots
You just did a thing i was always doing in the OG undertale
Axis have no fucking fear
I love how Clover doesn't kill the monsters who don't hurt innocent human, He always places himself in his own definition of justice.
The Martlet one hits hard.
Honestly Axis is my favorite undertale yellow character.
Same i love him
2:50 YOU'RE JUST APOLAGIZING AFTER DESTROYING LIFESS!?
"They shot me with magic first....I defended myself with bullest. Bullest won"
-Comment I stole.
0:28 you see Dalv.
You are my special
🎸🎸🎸
Hmmm… what if you kill everyone but martlet? Outcome would be the same but Cerobas still alive… would martlet not attempt to kill you just because you spared her but no one else?
nah u get the neutral ending where she tries to get u to live with her and then flowey kills her
Oh my god, do I LOVE Axis.
How did you spare AXIS in geno? everytime I get to the last attack Clover automatically kills the guy
It's not a true genocide. I failed the run because of this, but they didn't kill *all* of the robots. Doing so makes Axis not confess to him killing a human, thus not making Clover beat him inside out with the handle of their revolver.
@@solisruben296 That makes sense, it's a shame I made a back-up of my savefile *after* killing every robot so I don't see a way to get this outcome, I'll replay it another time though
@@Mart1n192 and it's a shame I went in completely blind so I didn't realize that I accidentally abandoned my run too. It's worse because I was following what flowey said of the robots being a waste of time.
@@solisruben296i also lost the route for not killing all the robots cuz i thought they arent important in the route if they give no exp
@@solisruben296you saw clover completely dismissing Flowey since a while back and decided to follow his advice??
its both funny and sad that el baliador's ends up being "i fucking hate this dance shit go away" and he's just like "oh. sorry. i'll be out."
I haven't played the game yet, but it seemed like the vampire was the only one where you actually aborted the genocide run. The others felt like if you spared them in a normal run. They didn't really freak out like I thought they would. Did the creator of the video reload their save after the vampire then kill him in order to continue genocide run or did they continue on after sparing and keep doing a killing spree but now on a neutral run.
Tbf you have to abort genocide (not finish the kill count) in order to actually get the option to spare axis
Fun fact: sparing Dalv is so cruel that doing so will not even abort the Genocide run
in axis battle genocide, you have to avoid killing all robots in order to be able to spare him
Fun fact: after sparing dalv in the geno route, you can get the silver scarf, a very useful item, and still go back to your genocide run.
noo poor el baliador gets so sad, how would one ever want to do that to the poor fellah
But i just think its kinda weird. Why would sparing something that doesnt even matter or have actual real feelings ruin a genocide? Flowey said it himself. If someone actually listened to flowey in a genocide and expected to just get out faster of the steamworks.. they would have to do it all again by loading back.
Because Axis only feels pressured into mentioning the human he killed if you eliminate everything in Steamworks. Otherwise, he has no reason to bring it up, so Clover never has a surge of LOVE, thus doesn't try to kill Martlet and so no Zenith
Gotta say, this is honestly depressing¡, like kudos to the creator for giving the dialogue such emotion
Like Dalv's is just sad, and i even feel bad for el bailador
The neat thing is, (while being underleveled until the final boss, you can spare Dalv, get the Silver Scarf, and still do genocide
What about Ceroba? I thought her name will be yellow when she is at low hp
you can`t spare her
@@spectral576ah gotcha
Yea Ceroba is the only one that definitely won’t just let it go. Her name turning yellow is likely a glitch
@@RenTheFen Same happens with Martlet. Idk, maybe yellow color on final blow means something like bringing justice to them?
@@RenTheFen yellow name means you can one tap them, It wouldn't let me spare dalv when i beat him to low hp
Dalv hurts a lot. Only he will have witnessed those horrors, he’ll always wonder why you decided he was important enough to spare or somehow more worth of sparing. Like wow man. You could make a fanfic outta this/hj
Odio la pelea ritmica con El Bailador en la ruta neutral y en la ruta genocida me dije "disfrutare matarte Bailador" pero sus ultimas palabras antes de matarlo en geno me hizo sentir muy mal, él solo queria ser un heroe haciendo que todos tengan siempre una sonrisa en la cara
You can somehow spare the final boss..... I never did it but I wanna try now
If you spare bosses in genocide, there wont be an PERFECT genocide but rather paci-cide. AND HELP I CANT KILL MARTLET GENOCIDE :CRY: (not the last bost the snowdin one)
"YOU STILL [freaking] SUCKS"
Whenever I read the comments, it’s literally just a war zone about if character’s deaths are justified or not, it’s very fun to read
5:57 does anyone know if its possible to kill axis here? and if so, what happens if you do?
Yeah it is infact i messed up genocide because i didnt know i had to kill the robots and after you do you simply get 200 exp and then neutral ending
You can spare Dalv in the geno run without turning it into a neutral, you can get the silver scarf since the npc’s needed are there, then you can start geno again without any repercussions.
Axis's life depended on a trash lid, yet he's got the NERVE to tell Clover to trip and fall to his death.
As far as I'm concerned, his death was the most satisfying thing in the entire run. Screw that robot.
@@Kiorka And yet, his death was the only one that made me feel regret for my actions.
What if you spare martlet in the genocide run as the final boss?
When I fought her I noticed her name was yellow when she was at 1 hp
You cant spare her ( or its a bug )
@@Shiryuu-x5oi think a bug, when You hit a enemy and almost kill it You can spare him without act, i think it confuses the Game enemies with bosses
@@martailsxd2049 it isn't a bug it's a feature, when enemies are 1 hit away from death their name.will show yellow only in the fight bar
Lore of Undertale Yellow - What happens if you SPARE bosses in the GENOCIDE Route? Momentum 100
I wonder what happens if you kill Axis after they ditch the shield, cuz they only give you LV when they start talking about Integrity
I haven’t played the game yet but I think this results in Clover being locked out of LV 19 for the rest of the run and will be on Neutral (Aborted Genocide) route
And from what I’ve read Axis does not talk about the human if the player hasn’t gotten the “But nobody came.” for this area
This happened to Me trying to do a genocide i killed him normally but doing it like this makes the game in a neutral run
Honestly this shows how evil you truly are as the people of the underground are willing to spare you even when you killed all of their friends and family, except a select few
To be Fair they killed five children you can't really feel bad for them
@@Tyson-i7r Actually most monsters didn’t do anything and are just victims to this. We can also assume that the children (except yellow) died around where the equipment was.
@@tyquil825in uty, axis was said to kill the blue human
@@dylanzlol7293 Yes but do we know where he killed him? Also if anything it proves my point that most monsters didn’t do anything. We know that Axis killed cause of his programming and that only 1 person designed him
@@tyquil825 axis killed the blue human in waterfall, ovviously.
5:33 im sorry. that attack took me 2 hours of practicing with cheats in order to nohit. how did you just... do that?
also the thumbnails pretty spoilery but how did you do that so casually?
Id assume he has practiced a lot too
@@mizzix but... but there was no reason to do it here. :(
the attack is like impossible
its so hard
@@dracibatic2433 This person used a TAS on Geno Martlet, so I wouldn’t be opposed to believing this is about the same.
@@mrepicdood9953 how do you know it was TAS?
@@dracibatic2433 Multiple unusual movements were done, such as jittering left and right often, almost always dashing a frame or two away from damage, and not dashing in situations where it’d be the obvious choice in favor of doing dodges that simply don’t seem optimal. (In particular, check times like 0:30 and 3:00)
There’s no definitive proof, but it’s extremely questionable when viewed with an introspective eye.
*remembers how martlet becomes a final boss yet your full on permitted to spare her*
...honestly... why?
It doesn't make the final boss any easier in fact I'd argue it just makes it harder by proxy of one less lv
It kinda odd that Marlet figures it out quicker than if you just kept on shooting her with the gun.
Well, apologizing for what was done is giving it away
6:25
Clover: you should be grateful that i didnt absolutely obliderate you mate, no need to be rude
6:25 Axis is so based)
Love him
Why didn't the third dude attack me on Genocide?
So you can’t spare Ceroba?
How do you get sparing on axis?
Just don't try to attack him or what
Simplemente no mates a todos los robots
@@P.-n8sx ah fair
Lore of Undertale Yellow sparing all bosses in Genocide route momentum 100
Well this certainly is a way to skip a few bosses
And loose your genocide run
Can you spare Ceroba?
What happens if you try?
you cant, the yellow means she's one hit from death
Clover literally killed her best friend in front of her
Lol axis still hates you
4:40 i want to cry now 🙁
I never encountered el balidor in genocide, was i supposed to?
he only shows up if you don't completely clear out the dunes before you get to the mountaintop. similar to napstablook and decibat.
Btw how I remember Genocide bosses also can be spared before final hit, maybe check this also?
Will you get level 19 by killing Axis?
you cant spare ceroba?
or you forgot?
You can't spare Ceroba. Why would she accept your mercy after you just shot Starlo to death?