Or non working people...the system/economy n tax setup is responsible for all global thievery on a scale you wouldn't imagine so just be aware your contributing too that if paying tax so we all guilty off stolen resources n lands directly the second your name is attached...just a thought ..cherrs
I've only been scammed once on ebay. It was when I got a new PS4 that came with a digital code. I decided to sell the digital code on ebay as i didn't like that game. Someone bought it and then asked for me to send the code to them instead. It was the first time I had sold a digital code on ebay so I wasn't aware I needed to still post the code to their address. They got the code and then asked for a refund claiming they had been hacked. Ebay gave them the money back and I lost the digital code as it had been used. That was my fault but it sucks that people will do that to you.
@pt4387 can u fight it.u send him a code thru emails.i did that 2 times they send me a code for fortnite.people just evil.i give a 100 percent feedback.u get good customers our bad customers
Thank you for alerting people of the scam. It’s unfortunate this stuff happens, but I’m glad eBay sided with you in the end. Hope you’re doing well man, take care!
Sellers like that are the ones who make it twice as hard for other sellers such as myself, now every buyer is on edge because nobody trusts nobody anymore. It's a damn shame, eBay used to be a great site with both honest buyers and sellers alike, but now it's filled with too many grifters and scammers on both sides. I'm sorry this happened to you mate, but I'm glad someone's making other people aware, scams don't work once people are informed.
They've learnt that from big employers who scam their staff by cutting their wages in real terms every year. Money hungry crooks like Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk etc etc
That’s just horrible I was a big eBay seller back 2007/2012 but the absolute abuse of the scams I would sell something for $200. They’d say they never got it or it wasn’t received. I just lose everything right then they get all their money back I was at the time using it as a full-time job on average I’d lose two to $500 a month off of people saying they didn’t get their item or they’d send me back the same item just broken. They switch it out. I had to quit doing it freedom of job that I had made for myself and not working for anyone else, but the stress was killing me. I had no ability to fight against being ripped off and having my money stolen. So I feel all of your pain in this one brother love the content please keep it up. And if you share the eBay name, there’s nothing wrong with that. You’re just warning the public I absolutely would if I was you because we in the gaming community don’t want to be ripped off there’s nothing we can do to him except avoid purchasing from him
🙂 samething happening at TEMU, some of the chinese sellers are nice and honest, but some of the americans and pretending they didnt recive item or its broke so that they can keep it for free, its nice theres protections for buyers but unfortunetly they are abusing too many sellers
Yup. Regular ground advantage has an added tracking number, whether you like it or not. In 15 years, I've never been scammed. I sell coins. Packages go out everyday. You didn't cover yourself, even accidentally, goof. Don't blame eBay cause you were put in the classes that required some strapped into helmet, and ride "that bus".
I live in sheltered accommodation and I don't make much money. Someone here over the past 4 years hase stolen over £500 worth of my money, phones, postage stamps and DVDS. Yet I'm just told I'm "misplacing" things. 2 months ago Someone took my £264 mobile out my pocket.
In that case you just send it back as faulty even though it may not be.The only way to get your money back . Don't even bother with the "procedure" Assume the "mistake" was deliberate gain as that is the upshot of it.
They got him a refund though. It's the liar that's the issue and it's not just ebay where liars exist. Tradesmen, Businesses and salespeople etc etc etc. Why i DIY almost everything. Fk this society.
What I have always done, and this is something I suggest , as soon as it drops through the post, just record on video, you opening up the package in real time, paying particular attention to the opening of it, showing that the seam has clearly not been touched. This has saved me multiple problems on ebay resolutions
I do this and it's always been something I plan to fall back on in the event of a dispute. The problem though is that ebay still dont have any way to upload a video. So it's a faff uploading it to google photos or youtube then providing ebay with the link, which they usually just ignore.
You missed something, he didn't cover himself, he actually screwed himself, he told you they were both sent in 1 package and you had both games, so how could 1 game end up sent back to him if they were in the same package? Ebay would have read that too and noticed the lie.
One track number = one parcel. I suppose a return address could exist on rear and get separated. But sellotape marks would exist on the envelope you got. Plus, why would he wait until you make contact to say oh I got it back in post? Not so much a scam in the usual sense of the word but rather a shyster. You saved a tenner on the £60 anyhow.
Damn, sorry you had to deal with that BS. Glad E-bay sided with you!! I don't understand those people, even trying to gaslight you into saying you scammed them!!
so glad you won! i lost two ebay scam disputes in the past. one i wasnt quick enough for because i assumed it was just stuck and the other it was marked as delivered but never came. so frustrating when its 100s of quids too
My track record has been surprisingly decent on eBay over the years. Plenty of flaky sellers, but no outright scammers as of yet. I keep hearing horror stories like this though.
ive bought like 200-500 things on ebay and never had an issue. I only buy from sellers at 99% thought. Maybe 98% if they have something I really want. These days they are the nicest people to do business with often sending thank you messages etc
@@cyan0xideJust be aware buyers also scam sellers. I'm on 98% and it was because a guy tried to get me to send the item to a different address and I cancelled the sale. I got a load of abuse saying it was for his child and they needed it asap and eBay read the messages but wouldn't allow me to give him negative feedback or withdraw the feedback he left for me. I also sold a water pump on eBay which I know was working. The guy knew you get 3 months to return an item so on the last day at 11.30pm he put in a returns claim and proceeded to demand his money back. My first response was ok this guy has used my pump and probably broke it now tried to say it never worked from the start. I could have believed it but when he bought it he already told me he had a plumber booked in and he needed it urgently for Tuesday so I actually paid more to get it to him for that date. So the messages started flooding in demanding a refund... As a seller you have three options at this point full refund, partial refund or allow eBay to intervene. I asked him why have you waited three months to tell me it was broke when you received it.. his response was I only just fitted it. I then said "look just be honest please I'm happy to give you a partial refund as it should have lasted longer than 3 months, would 50% be acceptable?". He replied with no I want a full refund so I let eBay intervene and he had to send the pump to me before I could issue a refund. Two weeks went by and a box appeared and straight away another message was received you've got the pump now give me my money. I inspected the pump and I had the serial of the one I sent, it did indeed match. I sent a message saying the pump was sent dry and you've sent it back with water inside so you've obviously used it. Anyway everything was sent to eBay they sided in their favour and I've now got a used broken pump. £250 down the drain. Buyers scam sellers just as much if not more.... I'm a fan of eBay but I think selling high value items is very risky. I've actually cancelled sales of buyers as I've now implemented this rule 1. If the username has been changed it's probably a hacked account 2. If they have no feedback or new user I refuse to sell to them. I've received bad feedback for this but if it's that or be hundreds of pounds out of pocket I'll take the feedback.
The biggest scams on Ebay are people asking for partial refunds on properly described and photographed items after getting buyer's remorse and sellers leaving out details about items purposefully, knowing that a return is unlikely esp if that item is vtg. These days everything is so high priced on ebay that it's rare I find anything anyway.
Well done mate. You fought hard, which you shouldn't have had to do. Very worrying when that happens and good on eBay for seeing sense. Yeah, those games are rare in UK cos were not released physical and only available on import. The seller wouldn't have refunded you. Would have scammed you a second time!
always...ALWAYS record yourself opening your parcels! Very easy to do, just prop your phone up against something, set it on front facing camera 'selfie' mode, press record, get the scissors and open it slowly to the camera. To me it sounds like that seller is partly looking to scam you, but more likely, he's looking to scam royal mail or whichever courier he used. He's probably claimed damage or contents missing and used the screenshot of the refund to evidence his claim that only half the order got delivered. I had someone send me a broken steam deck recently, he's clearly done that so he can claim for damage against the courier.
This is why you have to be real careful when dealing with people like this. If you weren’t as tactical about the situation he would’ve probably gotten away with it.
Yes I agree with you, I've been using ebay for many years so when a scammer comes along,I won't let go ,I will fight them all the way and report them and I block them from buying or bidding on my item
The seller has so much going on, he may have made a mistake and mispackaged only one game. Remember, sometimes it’s not always the person listing, is the person packaging. Sometimes the screw can occur on both the Seller and Packager. All messages are usually sent in immediacy without thinking, checking etc. This can lead to conflicts in their own backyard. I guess I am soft on Sellers giving a chance which you’ve done and leaving you a decrease in options.
I've never used ebay, mainly because I'm untrusting of the average Joe out there and don't want the hassle so it was surprising that your video turned up in my feed...but I'm glad it did as I found this whole saga pretty interesting. Very glad that you eventually got this problem sorted and that you got a refund...but it is still perplexing and depressing that the seller(scammer) has effectively been allowed to get away with it by still being allowed to trade on ebay after been proven dodgy...and having caused you a lot of aggrevation and wasted time. Good video ! 👍
I’ve had people saying they lost the item or their family took it without their knowledge when they’ve decided they didn’t get enough in an auction only for it it to reappear on a listing a day or two later. I also video myself opening expensive items so I have evidence of what was actually in the parcel.
I've been scammed on eBay before as well. Purchased what was advertised as an original copy of a classic d&d module but what I got was a print on demand cheap copy.
Sorry to hear you had to go through this. I have been on Ebay since 2003 and seen alot of scams I now check the weight on the packaging and if it doesn't seem right I film myself opening the packaging. I only do this because I have also been scammed. All the best for the future
Likely a scam but also could be that he used the same label twice in different packages instead of combining. If this happens again, and you get a parcel you're not sure on, stick it on the scales and take a photo before opening.
Cheers for the heads up Kev my man! Should name and shame them though... Im glad that you gave them a negative feedback as others need to be made aware... good vid bro!
Recently there is been a rash of eBay users altering shipping labels so that they appear to be delivered when they have not been. The way to deal with it is to open case with the USPS. Once the eBay user sees the USPS is snooping around, they tend to put the real item in the mail and the fake item with the altered tracking label "disappears".
I mainly get scammed from China related sellers i think supplement wise If i purchase from India I've been ripped off twice it sucks because the wait to Australia is almost a month
Your good and long ebay history/feedback probably played a part in them siding with you/believing you. If it was a new ebay buyer perhaps the scammer would have got away with it! Thanks for the story mate
I'm not sure how you can prevent this happening. You just have to trust sellers to put the correct number of items into the package. You can give negative feedback, warning others.
Thank you for putting this out mate. I think i only used ebay once.. and that was back in 2006... For a little movie called Lorca And The Outlaws aka 2084... Aka Starship... It was a movie with very controversial release variations from the 1980's. And the example i got off of Ebay was the American version that i did not wanted... So i never bothered with Ebay again. And i never had the need for Ebay. But good you putting this out! Scams are everywhere and they are just getting smarter. Cudos dude!
Normally tracking postage has weight. so there should of been a sticker with the weight. Putting 1 game in and not 2 would have a significant weight difference. That would of been enough proof. Usually around 100grams per game and case nowadays. Gone are the days of manuals, maps or additional advertisements.
@@accessarea6 Sometimes a bad experience is always a good eye opener for future buying. I'm glad you managed to get your money back and eventually found the other game you wanted.
All you needed to do was take note of the weight.. Everything posted is charged by weight.. The weight is applied to the label.. Go the post office with envelope get it weighed with 1 game first then 2 games.. compare the weights and you've got your answer.
i hate scammers >:( my friend preordered the new Horizon game and they never told her that they canclled her order and when she asked for a refund they told her to get paypal and will only refund it on there, ebay didnt care they said it was her problem right nasty work - listen to what kev says
In the last 5-6 years of eBay game collections I’ve been very fortunate to only have had 2 issues out of 370ish games with sellers. And it was just games not working. I did have a Dreamcast game that was cracked in shipping but the seller shockingly refunded me and told me to keep it lol I’ve had a run of good luck I suppose
Agree with you that you were 100% scammed. You should give the eBay seller's ID so that others can AVOID this scammer. What he should have done was post both in a box or at the very least put both in two envelopes and tapped them together so I can see this is 100% a scam on his part. But it's good you got half the money back. You should also leave negative feedback so to make clear you were scammed by this seller. But thanks for the warning too much of this sort of thing going on on eBay these days.
I had a similar situation with car parts recently, two items - same seller - same tracking number - only one arrived. In my case eBay initially decided in favour of the seller and decided I was trying to scam the seller but I stuck to my guns and kept fighting, in the end I had to report it to the police as online fraud, took a while but I got a refund in the end! If I'm ever in this situation again I'll just film the package being opened, indisputable evidence! Good job on getting your refund, you're probably better off in the long run as he wouldn't have dropped the price to 50 if you hadn't have bought both!
Great video to raise awareness. Had a Ebay disaster too recently. Bought a CiB copy of a rare N64 game that turned up way more battered then in the listing pics. The seller told me I was a lair and a scammer (even though I had to pay £120 just to import it) and ignored all the pics I sent with comparison pics from his listing. Ebay had to force a refund, I shipped it back and I'm still trying to get my import tax back even now 😅 Dude was really trying to claim I was scamming while costing myself loads of money in the process, what a tit. Mental.
Seriously? Do you actually understand that this works both ways? Buyers are the predominant scammers, because they use and abuse eBay’s policies of money back guarantee with impunity and to their advantage. It’s a scammers paradise. The sellers are the ones getting scammed, and yet they are the backbone of eBay. Without the sellers you have no eBay…. Take a moment to think about that…
Probably mostly Italian buyers. To be fair, the buyers might not always be scammers as they usually don't receive their items as customs staff just nick whatever is coming into the country.
I always film myself opening the more expensive packages that I've purchased off ebay. Atleast there is evidence then of what's been sent. I film the package being rotated around to prove it hasn't been tampered film and has the right address on it. Thankfully I haven't experienced anything like this so far. Great game collection BTW.
I've never been scammed but I did have an eBay purchase cancelled - a some what uncommon version of a ps1 game - Blockbuster ex rental of Alundra which I'd won in an auction for £14. The seller cancelled the sale after the auction and sent me a message explaining that he couldn't find it. Within minutes it was re-listed (buy it now/best offer) for £300!! 😮🤬 So I offered £14... 😅 Needless to say we exchanged a few rather heated messages...
Some people will list a auction expecting a certain price, if it doesn't reach the certain price they will cancel the order ,because to have a reserve price costs the seller
I'd be tempted to play dirty in that scenario. Use a burner account to buy it at £300 then claim item not as described and get your money back. Then send the knobhead an empty cardboard box back with £14 in it.
Bad idea sending the seller a message calling him a scammer as he can then report you for harrassment and that could result in a strike against you or possibly a ban. It's not worth it, just take the win and move on. Also, take a photo of the sealed package from multiuple angles before opening it.
Not just games either 🙄 I got scammed along with several people in a collectors group (80s toys) took me ages to get my money back. So many scammers there.
That’s unfortunate your lucky to get the refund. If he said they were both posted in the same package ebay would of checked the total weight of the parcel best thing to do in the future is check there feedback before purchasing 👍🏻
at least you got a couple of messages from the seller, i had a similar thing happen to me. i ordered 36 soaps , and only 18 was delivered , no reply even after i explained to the the seller with photos showing the packaging could only just about hold 18 bars. got no reply the seller told Ebay they had proof of tracking. i told Ebay that tracking does not tell you how many is in the pack, ebay eventually sent me the whole amount id paid so got 18 for free, id have rather had the 18 soaps. had a another one with a Graphix card, it did not arrive , seller did not reply, but good on Ebay they sent my money back, shame these people spoil it for the genuine sellers , its kind of put me off buying. thanks for sharing this video....
I know it might sound strange but it's not impossible that they did send it back to him. Does sound like a weird situation I agree but sometimes it does work out that way.
You should report that re-listing. If he stated in the original dispute that he sent both games in the envelope under the same tracking number and you received that envelope then it’s IMPOSSIBLE for him to get the other game back as he claims. It would have to have fallen out of the envelope. Fallen into a new envelope. Magically reprinted the same stamp and tracking info. For RoyalMail to then decide to send it back to the return address rather than the address it’s to be sent to. Get him reported!!
i have been reporting to eBay about a toast rack that's clearly just the case with a 48k board inside , they NEVER took it down and now some poor sod is going to be paying near two notes for a scam
Wow! I’m glad Ebay could help you at the end ☺️ Thank you for the warning, we’ll learn a lot from your unfortunate experience. Can’t believe they let him keep selling stuff. Karma will get him eventually 😈
If the scammer was smart, he could have just put 2 random games in and weight it and sent em off special recorded delivery too 😂🤣😅😉😆 So as a buyer, best open the package while recording it on video for expensive items, which is what I do 😘😙😚🤗😊😉
If this guy said he put both games in the same envelope, how can he claim that one of them had been returned to him in the post? Regardless, sounds a right knobhead. Cheers for the info Kev
Most people on eBay are cool, but there are quite a few scumbags to be wary of. You should get the first two fatal frame games on the Xbox 360 as they are hands down the scariest games i have ever played.
I had a similar situation, but a seller not shipping an item from the UK for over a month. Resulted in a refund and think the person's account was banned which was deserved. It is insane people can put you on hold for that long to then go through a process. I also bought a graded card which was "undeliverable" and I dount USPS will find it, but the card is insured so I can get a refund whenever I give in to my patience lol.
Speaking of rare horror games I've just spotted the Silent Hill: Shattered Memories in the case behind you - with the UK age rating too! I'm a big Silent Hill fan so I got that on release back in the day and was shocked to see the prices they fetch now due to the obscurity!
I had someone buy a $35 item once (pair of jeans), the same day she got the item she opened a case claiming she did not receive it or it was not the same i don't remember the exact reason. At the same time shes listed the item for sale for $50 on her ebay account with all new photos of the item lmao. Was probably the easiest case to prove to ebay, I won the case and a day later her account was banned by ebay.
He's not covered himself because he claimed it was in one envelope and that log exists, so he can't say it returned to his address when you literally hold the envelope it came in.
Yes ebay know this ,and as I said he put the same tracking number on both items but only sent one ,so in future I won't buy more than one item per seller
How did it come back through the post! He said he posted them together didn't he! 😂😂 He obviously lied! How did he cover himself. He stooged himself! 😂
He didn't cover himself because he'd said he sent both in one envelope.... id still report him. He didn't originally send a message saying he sent them both separately.
wouldnt have been unfair if he only refunded £40 as they were £60 each but you got them down to £50 each for buying them together. dome blame for for trying for the £50 back :) ebay are usually great for sorting stuff like this - cant remember where but you can request a phone call through the dispute page and ebay they usually call you within 10 minutes. dont forget - any problems & ebay take their side you can allways do a chrageback through your bank or open another dispute through paypal just a thought - if package arrives like that & you suspect its missing something dont open until you have a camera ready to record the opening :)
Love to see you keeping the love for gaming mate! Gives me hope as over the years I've lost interest a little . Which I hate.. but it's good to see you still enthusiastic and passionate about gaming 👌🍻
Bloody hell pal , glad you won , being thinking about buying the project zero ps4 games , sad how vultures , exploit people with these rarer games , thanks for the heads up.
Rule number 1. Always live record all rare openings. There is no dispute then. I do it for anything 50 quid and over and anything rare regardless of the cost. I got a new phone recently and the screen had a dent. I got it refunded instantly.
Man tell me about it. I’m starting up a small collection for GBA and it feels like trudging minefields looking for authentic carts. Sorry to hear about the loss. There’s always tomorrow brother
I've been lucky so far over the last 10 or so years but the only issue i had was i bought medievil 2 for the ps 1 for £50 but hogs of war was shipped instead so i messaged the seller and he said it was sent by someone else so eventually they sent out medieval 2 and they told me to keep hogs of war as a good gesture. I have noticed that some sellers on eBay aren't shipping the games themselves and that it's through a 3rd party
That’s mad :0(. The scams that people try to pull off. Good that eBay came to the right decision but these things can be stressful nonetheless. Cheers for sharing the details of what happened. On a plus the games def look like they’ll be fab collectors items and will hopefully go up in value. Have a goodun!
That’s bad stuff lad! If you used PayPal or your visa/mastercard debit or credit card you can call them and have the payment refunded, it isn’t contingent on the guy refunding you but the card with your bank or credit card company will refund you and they then chase the guy for the money and you get your refund regardless. I’ve had to do this myself and I got my money back (it’s happened to me a few times). Actually happened on Amazon once with me as well, I was sent the wrong product. I’m glad you got your £50 back!
Bloody scammers I’ve barely used eBay for buying so I’ve not been scammed. I’ve had issues with Amazon before and they just ignored my messages completely. Since I’m in Japan now no need for online shopping as game shops are still great here ;) I love the fatal frame series It’s called Zero on Japan
I've had a similar incident last week, matey. I only bought one game, though, and only received an envelope with a piece of card in it. The seller was adamant he had sent the game and that Royal Mail had opened it up, stolen it, replaced it with a piece of card, and re-sealed it 😂
I cancelled an order once that was taking forever to arrive. The seller got all salty and blocked me. Eventually a tracked enveloped arrived from him which was completely empty...If you thought the envelope was too small you should have filmed yourself opening it, that would have been all the proof eBay needed.
I film myself and the unboxing of anything that I buy via Ebay, I state my full name, the full address it was sent to me at, the date and the Ebay order number and item(s) name, description, who sent it to me then I commence with the unboxing video.
I absolutely hate scammers and thieves that steal from hard working people!
Or non working people...the system/economy n tax setup is responsible for all global thievery on a scale you wouldn't imagine so just be aware your contributing too that if paying tax so we all guilty off stolen resources n lands directly the second your name is attached...just a thought ..cherrs
I've only been scammed once on ebay. It was when I got a new PS4 that came with a digital code. I decided to sell the digital code on ebay as i didn't like that game. Someone bought it and then asked for me to send the code to them instead. It was the first time I had sold a digital code on ebay so I wasn't aware I needed to still post the code to their address. They got the code and then asked for a refund claiming they had been hacked. Ebay gave them the money back and I lost the digital code as it had been used. That was my fault but it sucks that people will do that to you.
@pt4387 can u fight it.u send him a code thru emails.i did that 2 times they send me a code for fortnite.people just evil.i give a 100 percent feedback.u get good customers our bad customers
Thank you for alerting people of the scam. It’s unfortunate this stuff happens, but I’m glad eBay sided with you in the end. Hope you’re doing well man, take care!
Yes I don't want people to get ripped off
Sellers like that are the ones who make it twice as hard for other sellers such as myself, now every buyer is on edge because nobody trusts nobody anymore. It's a damn shame, eBay used to be a great site with both honest buyers and sellers alike, but now it's filled with too many grifters and scammers on both sides. I'm sorry this happened to you mate, but I'm glad someone's making other people aware, scams don't work once people are informed.
post office would have the weight when it was posted
Best point so far
Not if it was lodged with a prepaid label, like a lot of ebay orders are.
eBay scammers are terrible such money hungry crooks they lie so hard just to scam an extra 20 quid 🙄
They've learnt that from big employers who scam their staff by cutting their wages in real terms every year. Money hungry crooks like Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk etc etc
I have cast a shield of protection on area 6. no more birds or turds!
Yes you know it lol
That’s just horrible I was a big eBay seller back 2007/2012 but the absolute abuse of the scams I would sell something for $200. They’d say they never got it or it wasn’t received. I just lose everything right then they get all their money back I was at the time using it as a full-time job on average I’d lose two to $500 a month off of people saying they didn’t get their item or they’d send me back the same item just broken. They switch it out. I had to quit doing it freedom of job that I had made for myself and not working for anyone else, but the stress was killing me. I had no ability to fight against being ripped off and having my money stolen. So I feel all of your pain in this one brother love the content please keep it up. And if you share the eBay name, there’s nothing wrong with that. You’re just warning the public I absolutely would if I was you because we in the gaming community don’t want to be ripped off there’s nothing we can do to him except avoid purchasing from him
Sounds like you were sending stuff without covering either it's value or tracking.
🙂 samething happening at TEMU, some of the chinese sellers are nice and honest, but some of the americans and pretending they didnt recive item or its broke so that they can keep it for free, its nice theres protections for buyers but unfortunetly they are abusing too many sellers
Yup. Regular ground advantage has an added tracking number, whether you like it or not. In 15 years, I've never been scammed. I sell coins. Packages go out everyday. You didn't cover yourself, even accidentally, goof. Don't blame eBay cause you were put in the classes that required some strapped into helmet, and ride "that bus".
I live in sheltered accommodation and I don't make much money. Someone here over the past 4 years hase stolen over £500 worth of my money, phones, postage stamps and DVDS. Yet I'm just told I'm "misplacing" things. 2 months ago Someone took my £264 mobile out my pocket.
It's crazy people will scam for such little amounts of money.
In that case you just send it back as faulty even though it may not be.The only way to get your money back . Don't even bother with the "procedure" Assume the "mistake" was deliberate gain as that is the upshot of it.
Ebay has always been garbage there is next to zero moderation and zero consequences for scammers.
Yes I don't do half as much ebay as I used to
They got him a refund though. It's the liar that's the issue and it's not just ebay where liars exist. Tradesmen, Businesses and salespeople etc etc etc. Why i DIY almost everything. Fk this society.
What I have always done, and this is something I suggest , as soon as it drops through the post, just record on video, you opening up the package in real time, paying particular attention to the opening of it, showing that the seam has clearly not been touched. This has saved me multiple problems on ebay resolutions
Yeah that's what I'm going to do from now on
I do this and it's always been something I plan to fall back on in the event of a dispute. The problem though is that ebay still dont have any way to upload a video. So it's a faff uploading it to google photos or youtube then providing ebay with the link, which they usually just ignore.
You missed something, he didn't cover himself, he actually screwed himself, he told you they were both sent in 1 package and you had both games, so how could 1 game end up sent back to him if they were in the same package? Ebay would have read that too and noticed the lie.
Yeah if you remember in my video I said there was a bit of a twist ,I did report him after the video but ebay haven't removed him
I commented that before I saw your great comment, Well spotted.
100%
One track number = one parcel. I suppose a return address could exist on rear and get separated. But sellotape marks would exist on the envelope you got. Plus, why would he wait until you make contact to say oh I got it back in post?
Not so much a scam in the usual sense of the word but rather a shyster.
You saved a tenner on the £60 anyhow.
@@keymad4every spotted that pal , apart from u
Damn, sorry you had to deal with that BS. Glad E-bay sided with you!! I don't understand those people, even trying to gaslight you into saying you scammed them!!
Ebay sides with the buyer 99 times out of 100
so glad you won! i lost two ebay scam disputes in the past. one i wasnt quick enough for because i assumed it was just stuck and the other it was marked as delivered but never came. so frustrating when its 100s of quids too
My track record has been surprisingly decent on eBay over the years. Plenty of flaky sellers, but no outright scammers as of yet. I keep hearing horror stories like this though.
All I say is please be aware
ive bought like 200-500 things on ebay and never had an issue. I only buy from sellers at 99% thought. Maybe 98% if they have something I really want. These days they are the nicest people to do business with often sending thank you messages etc
@@cyan0xideJust be aware buyers also scam sellers. I'm on 98% and it was because a guy tried to get me to send the item to a different address and I cancelled the sale. I got a load of abuse saying it was for his child and they needed it asap and eBay read the messages but wouldn't allow me to give him negative feedback or withdraw the feedback he left for me.
I also sold a water pump on eBay which I know was working. The guy knew you get 3 months to return an item so on the last day at 11.30pm he put in a returns claim and proceeded to demand his money back. My first response was ok this guy has used my pump and probably broke it now tried to say it never worked from the start. I could have believed it but when he bought it he already told me he had a plumber booked in and he needed it urgently for Tuesday so I actually paid more to get it to him for that date. So the messages started flooding in demanding a refund... As a seller you have three options at this point full refund, partial refund or allow eBay to intervene. I asked him why have you waited three months to tell me it was broke when you received it.. his response was I only just fitted it. I then said "look just be honest please I'm happy to give you a partial refund as it should have lasted longer than 3 months, would 50% be acceptable?". He replied with no I want a full refund so I let eBay intervene and he had to send the pump to me before I could issue a refund. Two weeks went by and a box appeared and straight away another message was received you've got the pump now give me my money. I inspected the pump and I had the serial of the one I sent, it did indeed match. I sent a message saying the pump was sent dry and you've sent it back with water inside so you've obviously used it. Anyway everything was sent to eBay they sided in their favour and I've now got a used broken pump. £250 down the drain.
Buyers scam sellers just as much if not more.... I'm a fan of eBay but I think selling high value items is very risky. I've actually cancelled sales of buyers as I've now implemented this rule 1. If the username has been changed it's probably a hacked account 2. If they have no feedback or new user I refuse to sell to them. I've received bad feedback for this but if it's that or be hundreds of pounds out of pocket I'll take the feedback.
The biggest scams on Ebay are people asking for partial refunds on properly described and photographed items after getting buyer's remorse and sellers leaving out details about items purposefully, knowing that a return is unlikely esp if that item is vtg. These days everything is so high priced on ebay that it's rare I find anything anyway.
Yes I've had that done to me it's called phishing, I call their bluff and tell them to send it back
Never deal with vendors without refering the issue to eBay first. Every time .
Well done mate. You fought hard, which you shouldn't have had to do. Very worrying when that happens and good on eBay for seeing sense. Yeah, those games are rare in UK cos were not released physical and only available on import. The seller wouldn't have refunded you. Would have scammed you a second time!
always...ALWAYS record yourself opening your parcels! Very easy to do, just prop your phone up against something, set it on front facing camera 'selfie' mode, press record, get the scissors and open it slowly to the camera.
To me it sounds like that seller is partly looking to scam you, but more likely, he's looking to scam royal mail or whichever courier he used. He's probably claimed damage or contents missing and used the screenshot of the refund to evidence his claim that only half the order got delivered. I had someone send me a broken steam deck recently, he's clearly done that so he can claim for damage against the courier.
Yes I'm going to film all package opening from now on
good idea 💡
I was already surprised he took the lower price. When I offer people 50 for a 60 item usually the counter offer is something like 59,50 lol
This is why you have to be real careful when dealing with people like this. If you weren’t as tactical about the situation he would’ve probably gotten away with it.
Yes I agree with you, I've been using ebay for many years so when a scammer comes along,I won't let go ,I will fight them all the way and report them and I block them from buying or bidding on my item
The seller has so much going on, he may have made a mistake and mispackaged only one game. Remember, sometimes it’s not always the person listing, is the person packaging. Sometimes the screw can occur on both the Seller and Packager. All messages are usually sent in immediacy without thinking, checking etc. This can lead to conflicts in their own backyard. I guess I am soft on Sellers giving a chance which you’ve done and leaving you a decrease in options.
I've never used ebay, mainly because I'm untrusting of the average Joe out there and don't want the hassle so it was surprising that your video turned up in my feed...but I'm glad it did as I found this whole saga pretty interesting. Very glad that you eventually got this problem sorted and that you got a refund...but it is still perplexing and depressing that the seller(scammer) has effectively been allowed to get away with it by still being allowed to trade on ebay after been proven dodgy...and having caused you a lot of aggrevation and wasted time. Good video ! 👍
I’ve had people saying they lost the item or their family took it without their knowledge when they’ve decided they didn’t get enough in an auction only for it it to reappear on a listing a day or two later.
I also video myself opening expensive items so I have evidence of what was actually in the parcel.
Yeah they're to many scammers out there, so I limit what I sell on any Web site, I tend to sell through friends or other,
I've been scammed on eBay before as well. Purchased what was advertised as an original copy of a classic d&d module but what I got was a print on demand cheap copy.
I'm very careful with ebay now ,and I don't really use it as much as I used to
Sorry to hear you had to go through this. I have been on Ebay since 2003 and seen alot of scams I now check the weight on the packaging and if it doesn't seem right I film myself opening the packaging. I only do this because I have also been scammed. All the best for the future
Likely a scam but also could be that he used the same label twice in different packages instead of combining. If this happens again, and you get a parcel you're not sure on, stick it on the scales and take a photo before opening.
Yes good idea but it has put me off buying more than one item from one seller
I hate these days so many scammers everywhere .
Yes ,I don't do half as much ebay as I used to
Cheers for the heads up Kev my man! Should name and shame them though... Im glad that you gave them a negative feedback as others need to be made aware... good vid bro!
The problem with name and shame is that he has my address cos obviously he posted a game to me and there's a lot of nutters out there
@@accessarea6 yeah true that mate
Thank you for looking out for everybody by spreading the word about this
the way he is scratching i think he is just spreading fleas
Recently there is been a rash of eBay users altering shipping labels so that they appear to be delivered when they have not been. The way to deal with it is to open case with the USPS. Once the eBay user sees the USPS is snooping around, they tend to put the real item in the mail and the fake item with the altered tracking label "disappears".
I mainly get scammed from China related sellers i think supplement wise If i purchase from India I've been ripped off twice it sucks because the wait to Australia is almost a month
Your good and long ebay history/feedback probably played a part in them siding with you/believing you. If it was a new ebay buyer perhaps the scammer would have got away with it! Thanks for the story mate
I really don’t know why people scam on such a site, that’s covering most angles. But they’d still try in hope that the customer isn’t persistent.😏
A lot of people prey on the weak
You would be able to tell it was a lie by checking the weight of the parcel from courier/postal service. And comparing it to the weight of two games.
Yes I think is why ebay wanted me to send them a photo of the envelope label
Thanks for letting us know, how we can be scammed. I hope this guy will have his amount of karma back on him. What a prick.
Thank you for letting us know. I was just buying obscure PS4 games on ebay today
And here i am giving an extra game when someone orders 1 from ebay lol
Thanks for letting us know of this. I absolutely hate scammers. Shame you can't name the seller so we can avoid.
The problem with naming is that he posted to my address and there are a lot of nutters out there
@accessarea6 That is very true, totally understand.
I'm not sure how you can prevent this happening. You just have to trust sellers to put the correct number of items into the package. You can give negative feedback, warning others.
Yeah, I don't really use ebay now since that scam
I believe you 💯 I hate the scammers horrible , disgusting.
Thank you for putting this out mate. I think i only used ebay once.. and that was back in 2006... For a little movie called Lorca And The Outlaws aka 2084... Aka Starship... It was a movie with very controversial release variations from the 1980's. And the example i got off of Ebay was the American version that i did not wanted... So i never bothered with Ebay again. And i never had the need for Ebay.
But good you putting this out! Scams are everywhere and they are just getting smarter.
Cudos dude!
Normally tracking postage has weight. so there should of been a sticker with the weight. Putting 1 game in and not 2 would have a significant weight difference. That would of been enough proof. Usually around 100grams per game and case nowadays. Gone are the days of manuals, maps or additional advertisements.
Yes that is why ebay wanted a photo of the envelope
@@accessarea6 Sometimes a bad experience is always a good eye opener for future buying. I'm glad you managed to get your money back and eventually found the other game you wanted.
All you needed to do was take note of the weight..
Everything posted is charged by weight..
The weight is applied to the label..
Go the post office with envelope get it weighed with 1 game first then 2 games.. compare the weights and you've got your answer.
i hate scammers >:(
my friend preordered the new Horizon game and they never told her that they canclled her order and when she asked for a refund they told her to get paypal and will only refund it
on there, ebay didnt care they said it was her problem right nasty work - listen to what kev says
In the last 5-6 years of eBay game collections I’ve been very fortunate to only have had 2 issues out of 370ish games with sellers. And it was just games not working. I did have a Dreamcast game that was cracked in shipping but the seller shockingly refunded me and told me to keep it lol I’ve had a run of good luck I suppose
I rarely any have luck buying stuff on eBay. Probably 1/3 of every has something wrong with it or straight up not what I was buying.
Agree with you that you were 100% scammed. You should give the eBay seller's ID so that others can AVOID this scammer.
What he should have done was post both in a box or at the very least put both in two envelopes and tapped them together so I can see this is 100% a scam on his part. But it's good you got half the money back. You should also leave negative feedback so to make clear you were scammed by this seller. But thanks for the warning too much of this sort of thing going on on eBay these days.
Because he posted to my address I don't want to name him cos there are a lot of nutty people out there
I know they are new and sealed, But make sure you check the games are in the box's, It's easy to to reseal stuff.
I had a similar situation with car parts recently, two items - same seller - same tracking number - only one arrived. In my case eBay initially decided in favour of the seller and decided I was trying to scam the seller but I stuck to my guns and kept fighting, in the end I had to report it to the police as online fraud, took a while but I got a refund in the end! If I'm ever in this situation again I'll just film the package being opened, indisputable evidence! Good job on getting your refund, you're probably better off in the long run as he wouldn't have dropped the price to 50 if you hadn't have bought both!
I'm glad you got your refund in the end , I won't buy 2 items from 1 seller anymore
The fact hes sent a small envelope that couldn't reasonably fit it, ebay must be aware its a scam and side you with
Great video to raise awareness. Had a Ebay disaster too recently. Bought a CiB copy of a rare N64 game that turned up way more battered then in the listing pics. The seller told me I was a lair and a scammer (even though I had to pay £120 just to import it) and ignored all the pics I sent with comparison pics from his listing. Ebay had to force a refund, I shipped it back and I'm still trying to get my import tax back even now 😅 Dude was really trying to claim I was scamming while costing myself loads of money in the process, what a tit. Mental.
It's good that eBay usually sides with the buyer. Sometimes to the detriment of the seller, but cant always have everything.
Seriously? Do you actually understand that this works both ways? Buyers are the predominant scammers, because they use and abuse eBay’s policies of money back guarantee with impunity and to their advantage. It’s a scammers paradise. The sellers are the ones getting scammed, and yet they are the backbone of eBay. Without the sellers you have no eBay…. Take a moment to think about that…
eBay's global shipping program is also something to be aware of. It's also partly a scam they started with in 2016/2017.
Probably mostly Italian buyers. To be fair, the buyers might not always be scammers as they usually don't receive their items as customs staff just nick whatever is coming into the country.
@@highnoon7097 Nick?
@@MrUnknownName steal
@@highnoon7097 Okay.
I've had one GSP item go missing but many more Royal Mail to UK.
So sorry it happened but glad that you were able to be compensated somewhat. Thanks for the heads up as well!
I always film myself opening the more expensive packages that I've purchased off ebay. Atleast there is evidence then of what's been sent. I film the package being rotated around to prove it hasn't been tampered film and has the right address on it. Thankfully I haven't experienced anything like this so far. Great game collection BTW.
Yes I'm going to film all package opening from now on
@@accessarea6 you could even monetise your parcel openings by uploading these unboxing videos to youtube.
I've always been a little skeptical about ebay for reasons like this to be honest but i suppose support came through so maybe that's unfounded.
Thanks for sharing to keep us aware. I'm glad you ended up with both games in the end. Keep doing what you do!
I've never been scammed but I did have an eBay purchase cancelled - a some what uncommon version of a ps1 game - Blockbuster ex rental of Alundra which I'd won in an auction for £14. The seller cancelled the sale after the auction and sent me a message explaining that he couldn't find it. Within minutes it was re-listed (buy it now/best offer) for £300!! 😮🤬
So I offered £14... 😅
Needless to say we exchanged a few rather heated messages...
Some people will list a auction expecting a certain price, if it doesn't reach the certain price they will cancel the order ,because to have a reserve price costs the seller
I'd be tempted to play dirty in that scenario. Use a burner account to buy it at £300 then claim item not as described and get your money back. Then send the knobhead an empty cardboard box back with £14 in it.
@@highnoon7097 🤣👍
Bad idea sending the seller a message calling him a scammer as he can then report you for harrassment and that could result in a strike against you or possibly a ban. It's not worth it, just take the win and move on. Also, take a photo of the sealed package from multiuple angles before opening it.
Not just games either 🙄 I got scammed along with several people in a collectors group (80s toys) took me ages to get my money back. So many scammers there.
That’s unfortunate your lucky to get the refund. If he said they were both posted in the same package ebay would of checked the total weight of the parcel best thing to do in the future is check there feedback before purchasing 👍🏻
at least you got a couple of messages from the seller, i had a similar thing happen to me. i ordered 36 soaps , and only 18 was delivered , no reply even after i explained to the the seller with photos showing the packaging could only just about hold 18 bars. got no reply the seller told Ebay they had proof of tracking. i told Ebay that tracking does not tell you how many is in the pack, ebay eventually sent me the whole amount id paid so got 18 for free, id have rather had the 18 soaps. had a another one with a Graphix card, it did not arrive , seller did not reply, but good on Ebay they sent my money back, shame these people spoil it for the genuine sellers , its kind of put me off buying. thanks for sharing this video....
I know it might sound strange but it's not impossible that they did send it back to him. Does sound like a weird situation I agree but sometimes it does work out that way.
Seller was a con man and only put 1 game in envelope. 2 wouldn't fit in it and buyer would of spotted it had Been opened. If he did send 2.
You should report that re-listing.
If he stated in the original dispute that he sent both games in the envelope under the same tracking number and you received that envelope then it’s IMPOSSIBLE for him to get the other game back as he claims.
It would have to have fallen out of the envelope. Fallen into a new envelope. Magically reprinted the same stamp and tracking info. For RoyalMail to then decide to send it back to the return address rather than the address it’s to be sent to.
Get him reported!!
Just open a dispute with your bank. You'll win it and get the full amount back plus get to keep the game he sent.
Love the collection mate. And that facehugger! Also thanks for bringing attention to this
all you had to do to prove is weight - the label he did probably weighed one games worth
If I was the seller, I would just insist on everything sent back for full customer refund. I don't send part deliveries out, BTW
i have been reporting to eBay about a toast rack that's clearly just the case with a 48k board inside , they NEVER took it down and now some poor sod is going to be paying near two notes for a scam
Sorry to hear that…
Thank you for the heads up
You're welcome
Wow! I’m glad Ebay could help you at the end ☺️ Thank you for the warning, we’ll learn a lot from your unfortunate experience. Can’t believe they let him keep selling stuff. Karma will get him eventually 😈
In Australia we weigh the packages so this could never happen 👍
If the scammer was smart, he could have just put 2 random games in and weight it and sent em off special recorded delivery too 😂🤣😅😉😆
So as a buyer, best open the package while recording it on video for expensive items, which is what I do 😘😙😚🤗😊😉
Sellers can purchase labels and print them themselves. Parcels are only weighed if you lodge them at the post office.
If this guy said he put both games in the same envelope, how can he claim that one of them had been returned to him in the post? Regardless, sounds a right knobhead. Cheers for the info Kev
Most people on eBay are cool, but there are quite a few scumbags to be wary of. You should get the first two fatal frame games on the Xbox 360 as they are hands down the scariest games i have ever played.
I had a similar situation, but a seller not shipping an item from the UK for over a month. Resulted in a refund and think the person's account was banned which was deserved. It is insane people can put you on hold for that long to then go through a process.
I also bought a graded card which was "undeliverable" and I dount USPS will find it, but the card is insured so I can get a refund whenever I give in to my patience lol.
Speaking of rare horror games I've just spotted the Silent Hill: Shattered Memories in the case behind you - with the UK age rating too! I'm a big Silent Hill fan so I got that on release back in the day and was shocked to see the prices they fetch now due to the obscurity!
Yes they are uk pal release and are very expensive now
I had someone buy a $35 item once (pair of jeans), the same day she got the item she opened a case claiming she did not receive it or it was not the same i don't remember the exact reason. At the same time shes listed the item for sale for $50 on her ebay account with all new photos of the item lmao. Was probably the easiest case to prove to ebay, I won the case and a day later her account was banned by ebay.
Nice one ,these people should be banned ,I've always used ebay to sell stuff and never have or would think about ripping someone off its disgusting
He's not covered himself because he claimed it was in one envelope and that log exists, so he can't say it returned to his address when you literally hold the envelope it came in.
Yes ebay know this ,and as I said he put the same tracking number on both items but only sent one ,so in future I won't buy more than one item per seller
I can't believe how petty people can be.
Thank you kindly for this! Cheers.
Ebay have always been absolutely useless for buyer support. Glad you had a good experiance though.
How did it come back through the post! He said he posted them together didn't he! 😂😂
He obviously lied! How did he cover himself. He stooged himself! 😂
He didn't cover himself because he'd said he sent both in one envelope.... id still report him. He didn't originally send a message saying he sent them both separately.
I did report him but he is still active on ebay
wouldnt have been unfair if he only refunded £40 as they were £60 each but you got them down to £50 each for buying them together. dome blame for for trying for the £50 back :)
ebay are usually great for sorting stuff like this - cant remember where but you can request a phone call through the dispute page and ebay they usually call you within 10 minutes.
dont forget - any problems & ebay take their side you can allways do a chrageback through your bank or open another dispute through paypal
just a thought - if package arrives like that & you suspect its missing something dont open until you have a camera ready to record the opening :)
Love to see you keeping the love for gaming mate! Gives me hope as over the years I've lost interest a little . Which I hate.. but it's good to see you still enthusiastic and passionate about gaming 👌🍻
Many thanks for this video. Your collection is awesome!:)
Thank you very much please stick around for more
Sometimes it’s the seller that makes the mistake got a parcel late then eBay refunds you then the item arrives not the buyers fault
Bloody hell pal , glad you won , being thinking about buying the project zero ps4 games , sad how vultures , exploit people with these rarer games , thanks for the heads up.
Rule number 1. Always live record all rare openings. There is no dispute then. I do it for anything 50 quid and over and anything rare regardless of the cost.
I got a new phone recently and the screen had a dent. I got it refunded instantly.
Good point , I take pictures as well 👍👍
Man tell me about it. I’m starting up a small collection for GBA and it feels like trudging minefields looking for authentic carts. Sorry to hear about the loss. There’s always tomorrow brother
Good luck on your journey,my friend
I've been lucky so far over the last 10 or so years but the only issue i had was i bought medievil 2 for the ps 1 for £50 but hogs of war was shipped instead so i messaged the seller and he said it was sent by someone else so eventually they sent out medieval 2 and they told me to keep hogs of war as a good gesture. I have noticed that some sellers on eBay aren't shipping the games themselves and that it's through a 3rd party
Awesome collection and figures you got there! 🙌👍
That’s mad :0(. The scams that people try to pull off. Good that eBay came to the right decision but these things can be stressful nonetheless. Cheers for sharing the details of what happened.
On a plus the games def look like they’ll be fab collectors items and will hopefully go up in value.
Have a goodun!
That’s bad stuff lad! If you used PayPal or your visa/mastercard debit or credit card you can call them and have the payment refunded, it isn’t contingent on the guy refunding you but the card with your bank or credit card company will refund you and they then chase the guy for the money and you get your refund regardless. I’ve had to do this myself and I got my money back (it’s happened to me a few times). Actually happened on Amazon once with me as well, I was sent the wrong product. I’m glad you got your £50 back!
I thought CC companies say that you haven’t got a contract with eBay themselves so you can’t use the CC company to claim against them?
It would be interesting to see his feedback to see if he's done it to other people too, which I'm sure he must've done.
Don't use eBay but glad they got it fixed, the balls to put it back up too
Cheers mate
Bloody scammers I’ve barely used eBay for buying so I’ve not been scammed. I’ve had issues with Amazon before and they just ignored my messages completely.
Since I’m in Japan now no need for online shopping as game shops are still great here ;)
I love the fatal frame series
It’s called Zero on Japan
I've had a similar incident last week, matey. I only bought one game, though, and only received an envelope with a piece of card in it.
The seller was adamant he had sent the game and that Royal Mail had opened it up, stolen it, replaced it with a piece of card, and re-sealed it 😂
That's crazy but I know it happens
I cancelled an order once that was taking forever to arrive. The seller got all salty and blocked me. Eventually a tracked enveloped arrived from him which was completely empty...If you thought the envelope was too small you should have filmed yourself opening it, that would have been all the proof eBay needed.
I film myself and the unboxing of anything that I buy via Ebay, I state my full name, the full address it was sent to me at, the date and the Ebay order number and item(s) name, description, who sent it to me then I commence with the unboxing video.