Proved the point ....you can only make them more efficient on miss hits. All these drivers hit on the screws will go the same distance within a couple yards.
I spent an hour on the launch monitor with a pro club fitter. This club just beat out the epic flash for the driver that fit me. . I hit it a bit further and straighter. My nephew is a course manager so got it much cheaper then retail. I would never pay the price these drivers get. That being said I average 25 more yards per drive and a much straighter ball flight with pretty consistent grouping. Played last Friday, first time. Hit most fairways and the ones I didn't were just off the fairway. I had approach shots 2 clubs shorter on the course I played many many times. I'm happy.
Good review but there's absolutely no way that a mass produced golf club will be CT tested...then have foam injected and them CT tested again...zero percent chance of that happening
Well i got fitted for new clubs and i hit all the new brands to see which was better for me as did not care which one suited me so he told me no to new irons as mine would not need changing but ended up with new M5 and Titleist fairway woods as all i was chasing was consistency first time owning Taylormade clubs so i will let you know after a few rounds great review
Great test, Neil. I like the parameters of which shots you excluded. My only nit with the new TM drivers is the price increase over the previous. It encourages me to keep playing my M1.
I play the 440cc R9 and found the Motore 65g shaft that suits my swing best. I prefer the accuracy and feel of the old R9 compared to the M1. Getting 280-310 outta old technology. Can't justify spending a fortune for tiny gains if any
Nice review but I read somewhere think it was mygolfspy that Taylornade are using c.o r to measure if there club is legal but actually the usga use ct to measure. I'm sure you guys know that answer more than me though😀
I understand the rationale behind setting up the two drivers identically and neutrally, but I feel it may be missing a trick. If you were to get fitted for both drivers to determine your optimum settings, that would surely be a better comparison. For example, if the new club allowed you to dial in better numbers, then surely this is a positive? I recognise this will only be based around the tester's game, but unless you are showing robot numbers the human element is significant anyway.
Very true David. The issue is that if the two drivers were set up differently, lots of people would come on here to say that we had changed the clubs to get the results we wanted. You can't really win either way! We just tried to do a simple, fair review
You will always say the new models are better or lose advertising revenue. We are down to talking fractions and for the club player level will be negligible. On positive the M5 does look great at address.
Let me flip this by saying - why would a manufacturer release a club that wasn't better than the generation before, even if it was only by a tiny amount? That wouldn't make sense
You are getting as bad as Taylor made Neil there brain washing the public to make you believe your getting more distance. All drivers I've tried in last 4 yrs go same distance give or take 5 yards, it's all about looks and forgiveness for manufacturers now. I wouldn't buy any new driver ever again the cash only lines the pockets of the tour pro's. Still not found a driver that out performs my Epic so that's here to stay.
Hi Neil, I always value the reviews Golf monthly do for us all but can’t help but feel that leaving the clubhead speed off the results is unfair - for obvious reasons.
Thanks JP. That wasn't intentional. I think we showed a screen with them on the M6 review. Apologies - all I can say is that from memory they were comparable. In fact, I tested the M5 first so I couldn't be accused of not having warmed up. Appreciate the feedback though - will add next time!
when the resin is injected how do anybody know where is settle's to eg front of the driver or bottom.or back? what if the club is lifted up or moved before resin gets solid
Marketing BS IMO. I can't believe a mass produced driver will have every individual face tested and the correct amount of foam inserted in each one. Yeah next Santa Claus exists absolute marketing twaddle.
Bring the price down to £300 i may give it a try prices are killing the game but suckers will buy this thinking they will get more distance 😁🤔 co concentrate on direction and forgiveness and you won't go far wrong. More bull from Tmade I'll stick with my Epic thank you.
I believe Titleist only bring out a new model every 2 years? Could be wrong. Taylormade are just ridiculous with their rebranding the same old shit. Maybe if they got it right the first time they wouldn’t have to spend so much on R&D and advertising and their DRIVERS WOULDN’T COST £5000!
MrOitoyboy 2016 Titleist released 917. 2017 it was the 918 and 2018 the TS 2/3. The only real difference you’ll find is Titleist don’t over market the drivers - funny - they don’t sell as many as TaylorMade either.... all manufacturers are the same. Have to agree with you on pricing though £500 for a Driver is ridiculous!
Proved the point ....you can only make them more efficient on miss hits. All these drivers hit on the screws will go the same distance within a couple yards.
Sir, thanks for the very in-depth review! Love the sound of the M5
Lol shot 23 went 301yards carry... 166.5mph ball, 14.3launch and 1881 spin. I'd buy this driver if I'd get those numbers!!
SuperYoda7 you’re right. Spend the money on lessons until you can hit the center of the fairway 280-300 yards.
Best info I’ve seen on the M5 so far. Answered the questions I had. Thanks and great video 👍🏼. Now time to go text one.
Twist face? I think the new srixon is now an even better deal. 😊 Nice balanced review though. Thx.
I spent an hour on the launch monitor with a pro club fitter. This club just beat out the epic flash for the driver that fit me. . I hit it a bit further and straighter. My nephew is a course manager so got it much cheaper then retail. I would never pay the price these drivers get. That being said I average 25 more yards per drive and a much straighter ball flight with pretty consistent grouping. Played last Friday, first time. Hit most fairways and the ones I didn't were just off the fairway. I had approach shots 2 clubs shorter on the course I played many many times. I'm happy.
Probably the best review I’ve seen so far 👍
Good review but there's absolutely no way that a mass produced golf club will be CT tested...then have foam injected and them CT tested again...zero percent chance of that happening
Well i got fitted for new clubs and i hit all the new brands to see which was better for me as did not care which one suited me so he told me no to new irons as mine would not need changing but ended up with new M5 and Titleist fairway woods as all i was chasing was consistency first time owning Taylormade clubs so i will let you know after a few rounds great review
Great test, Neil. I like the parameters of which shots you excluded. My only nit with the new TM drivers is the price increase over the previous. It encourages me to keep playing my M1.
Thanks Howie! Yes, price is fairly steep which is a point I really should have made!
Haven't added any distance in the past 10 years by changing drivers. I have added accuracy and improved on dispersion, but no distance shift.
I play the 440cc R9 and found the Motore 65g shaft that suits my swing best. I prefer the accuracy and feel of the old R9 compared to the M1. Getting 280-310 outta old technology. Can't justify spending a fortune for tiny gains if any
Correction it's the 422cc head not 440
Nice review but I read somewhere think it was mygolfspy that Taylornade are using c.o r to measure if there club is legal but actually the usga use ct to measure. I'm sure you guys know that answer more than me though😀
I understand the rationale behind setting up the two drivers identically and neutrally, but I feel it may be missing a trick. If you were to get fitted for both drivers to determine your optimum settings, that would surely be a better comparison. For example, if the new club allowed you to dial in better numbers, then surely this is a positive? I recognise this will only be based around the tester's game, but unless you are showing robot numbers the human element is significant anyway.
Very true David. The issue is that if the two drivers were set up differently, lots of people would come on here to say that we had changed the clubs to get the results we wanted. You can't really win either way! We just tried to do a simple, fair review
@@GolfMonthly Thanks for the reply and I totally recognise that you are in a no win situation.
Why not get properly fit for both and then do the test 🤔
Appreciate the quality of testing. My first comment is directed to TM.
Good test, but 1mph more ball speed is not really a real proper breakthrough
Good review Neil.
What happens to the injected gel at 2,3,4, 5 years? Will this club still be conforming 5 yr after purchase?
Good question - we will try and put that to them!
Im still confuse, don;t know wich one of them i should buy. Taylormade m5, Ping g400 max or the ping g410! Help!!
You will always say the new models are better or lose advertising revenue. We are down to talking fractions and for the club player level will be negligible. On positive the M5 does look great at address.
Let me flip this by saying - why would a manufacturer release a club that wasn't better than the generation before, even if it was only by a tiny amount? That wouldn't make sense
To pay the bills?
You are getting as bad as Taylor made Neil there brain washing the public to make you believe your getting more distance. All drivers I've tried in last 4 yrs go same distance give or take 5 yards, it's all about looks and forgiveness for manufacturers now. I wouldn't buy any new driver ever again the cash only lines the pockets of the tour pro's. Still not found a driver that out performs my Epic so that's here to stay.
Can the resen be removed .to then in theory make the club illegal but no way of testing it
I’m torn between the M5 and the Teeless driver.
Hi Neil, I always value the reviews Golf monthly do for us all but can’t help but feel that leaving the clubhead speed off the results is unfair - for obvious reasons.
Thanks JP. That wasn't intentional. I think we showed a screen with them on the M6 review. Apologies - all I can say is that from memory they were comparable. In fact, I tested the M5 first so I couldn't be accused of not having warmed up. Appreciate the feedback though - will add next time!
Golf Monthly thanks for the reply 👍🏻👍🏻
Is that a chipped sweet spot at 1 min 51 s?
when the resin is injected how do anybody know where is settle's to eg front of the driver or bottom.or back? what if the club is lifted up or moved before resin gets solid
There are two small channels where the resin sits, one in the heel and one in the toe
So TM is hand testing every club? Otherwise how do you know it isn't illegal as they say? I love golf marketing.....
Apparently so...
Great new vid
Marketing BS IMO. I can't believe a mass produced driver will have every individual face tested and the correct amount of foam inserted in each one. Yeah next Santa Claus exists absolute marketing twaddle.
We'll put that to them and see what they say...
an algorithm is used according to Rick shiels
Bring the price down to £300 i may give it a try prices are killing the game but suckers will buy this thinking they will get more distance 😁🤔 co concentrate on direction and forgiveness and you won't go far wrong. More bull from Tmade I'll stick with my Epic thank you.
Nice
Proof that go faster paint is worth £500, marketing bs at it's finest.
Rory McIlroy 😀😀😀😀
Oh look, another new driver from Taylormade. 🤦🏻♂️
You mean Calloway cobra Titleist they're not going to do that
I believe Titleist only bring out a new model every 2 years? Could be wrong. Taylormade are just ridiculous with their rebranding the same old shit. Maybe if they got it right the first time they wouldn’t have to spend so much on R&D and advertising and their DRIVERS WOULDN’T COST £5000!
MrOitoyboy 2016 Titleist released 917. 2017 it was the 918 and 2018 the TS 2/3. The only real difference you’ll find is Titleist don’t over market the drivers - funny - they don’t sell as many as TaylorMade either.... all manufacturers are the same. Have to agree with you on pricing though £500 for a Driver is ridiculous!
Take my money.... the end
you dont have the speed or the swing to carry the same as lee westwood just bollocks
TM is a joke anymore. Tell them to slow down. Sometimes less is more. Not gimmicks.
What a load of rubbish.... 1mph extra ball speed but 7yds extra distance.......I smell a rat.
Higher launch and lower spin...