Yamato kits.. Tamiya 1/350 vs Glow2b 1/200.. My take on both kits.....
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- A few watchers have asked my opinion of the Tamiya premium kit in 1/350 scale vs the new 1/200 Yamato. So, here's what I think. If you would like to contribute to the channel.. please look here.. / nigelsmodellingbench
For people who want a bit smaller kit than the Tamiya 1/350 scale kit(s)....there is a really nice 1/450 scale kit of Yamato from Hasegawa, and I'm not talking about their ancient 1/450 Yamato from 1962! I mean their new kit #40151 (also reissued under some other numbers) from 1993 through 2020. It's very nicely molded, and it's just under 2 feet long, which is a handy size for display purposes. Also...it's quite reasonably priced. You might want to add some photoetch in certain areas.
So funny to hear Nigel talked about slipping his new toys under the wife’s nose at night.
I am so glad that there are people from the other part of the world having the same problem as I
Hi Nigel, This is a great comparison between the two kits. I took a look at scalemates right now the Premium Tamiya kit is over $400.00 US. The Pontos kit is over $250.00. The Trumpeter 1/200 is about $650. If space wasn't a consideration, I would think the Trumpeter kit was a way better deal. Thanks for taking the time to put this together. It is very interesting. Have a great day. Jeff
i have tamiya&pontos set 600 euros abot..still work it.
As alway Nigel , a great review not really into ships but this trumpeter kit is something else , has got me tempted. I just love your reviews and tutorials, I have them on when modelling, always something interesting and relevant, you never stop learning with hobby and you Nige are a great teacher. Just keep on doing what you always do 👍
Nigel, fancy missing out on the chance to say 'I'm not trying to blow Trumpeter's trumpet...' 1:19:40. Great video, I'm not good enough and I don't have the space at the moment, but the Trumpeter kit is now where my modelling career is heading, for sure. Thanks.
Brilliant video as usual so thanks for the comparison, I've had a closer look at the decking on my Glow2B and it is planked rather than very long strips.
Yeah, the point I was making was that the planking is staggered at exactly the same point across the deck??
Thanks for the comparison of the kits. I was actually pondering which to build later on myself, but since space is limited (too many big models) I will go for the 1/350 with Pontos detail up set. Always a joy to watch your videos. Cheers!
Glad it was helpful!
I have the 1/1200 esci/revell Yamato, not quite on par with these offerings but for anyone on limited budget and display space it's the biz 😁👍
Sorry for a late comment, I recently bought the Glow2B one and I'm happy to have watched your review. I picked it because of its size, ever since the pandemic I've wanted a large Yamato behind me during video calls, but needed to move before that was going to be a thing (which it now is). For me I prefer the kits mostly as an out of box experience, though I did order metal gun barrels. The Pontos kit for the Glow2B one has been on my mind, but it' would likely prevent me from finishing the ship so I've decided not to buy it (does look mighty impressive though). Seeing from your review the Tamiya kit doesn't come with railings would've been quite a deal breaker, a ship that size just needs them, reason enough to stand with my choice as it was one of the features that I actually had on my list as a must.
Also thanks for the advice to at least look through/download the Tamiya manual, I've saved it for reference and will probably use it as a guide when I build the Glow2B kit.
Well done with the comparison Nigel and I agree with your hesitation with the Tamiya photo etch. I will try their photo etch but if it doesn’t work out, I will go with aftermarket.
Have fun
Always a good video sir nigel.
Nice side by side comparison Nigel. I would love to buy the Glow2b but unless I took over the dining room table to display it(that’s a NO from the wife) just don’t have the space, sigh. i will certainly look forward to watching you build this one. Cheers and stay safe.
Awesome bro..you should get the New Edition Super Illustration Japanese Navy Battleship Yamato book aswell...i cant share links to amazon as it get deleted.
Cracking comparison Nigel. Off course, I am going to say that Tamiya is the better kit lol. Mainly because that is the kit I have. I will never get a 1/200 ship kit. I just do not have room. I do have the de-gausing cable set, plus 2 Eduard PE sets for the Tamiya kit. I think I will probably get the metal barrels too. You doing the review of the Trumpeter kit and this comparison, just makes me want to get my Tamiya one out and build it lol. But I would really like to see you do a build series of either kit. You don't tend to build many ship kits. I would like to see you do one matey.
Thanks 👍
I’ve always said trumpeter packaging is brilliant the titanic and the dkm u boat 1/200 a nicely safely packaged 10/10 definitely
great review Nigel
Thanks Paul.
For the turrets can always go with fujimi 1/200 sets which are perfect and also have em dedicated PE.
Yeah, I did mention that in the video, but you'd need a mortgage to buy them..
Overall great video mate👍
With a kit that large it may not only be an issue of space to display it, but also of space to actually work on the model. What seems to be missing from the Glow2b kit on the box and instruction sheet is an indication of the time and occassion of when the ship is modelled on, and explaination of the two painting guides. I suppose the 2nd paint is for the final voyage, when the ship didn't carry the planes and sailing into battle had the flags on the mast.
I think the knowledgeable historian could depict the model in many guises as all the holes are flashed over in the deck so one could do as one pleases? Trumpeter tend to not give periods, squadrons, divisions and sometimes even nations on their paint schemes these days??
that was a fun watch, seems like Trumpeter did there homework this time 🙂
A Model ship equivalent of Battleship's... very interesting
Made the Tamiya Yamato, but i think Trumpeter wins again, essentially because of the photoetch, and value for money... i can find it for 400 bucks. Doing a comprehensive Bismarck would also be so expensive. Here it looks hardly anything needs to be supplemented.
What s missing at the barbettes for instance can be replaced easily.
Once i finish the 1.200 Arizona...
Wow that 1/200 scale is massive that's one of those where the the hell am I going to put it when it's built.
Hi Nigel , The PE in the Tamiya kit will most likely be Nickel Silver rather than Stainless Steel - yes it will be harder and as such difficult to cut but can be annealed for bending in the same way as Brass PE
No Robert, the PE in pretty much all Tamiya kits is stainless steel. It is actually magnetic for starters.
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Hi Nigel , I stand corrected , just done the magnet test on the Bracing set for Tamiya's Fairey Sword and as you say its magnetic
Yes Robert.. I don't know why they do it.. yes, its more rigid, but it is a pig to work with. I must look up the annealing process.. It would be nice to know what grade it is? I'm guessing a cheap grade and being magnetic it could be S416??
Hey Nigel, Thanks for taking the time to compare the Yamatos' quite informative. I do find it a bit difficult to compare the quality of the injection moldings in different scales, a fact you alluded too in the beginning. Do you feel that manufacturers will start producing more 'premium' type kits in the future?
As to size......1/200 is not very big in my little world. Some years back I constructed a model of the SS Edmund Fitzgerald at 1/72 scale resulting in a model 7 & 1/2 feet long.......the display case is 9' long.........thing is though......these Great lakes ore carriers are long with a rather slender beam compared to their length.......although my model is nearly 8' long it is only about a foot wide. So......this 9' long display case sits nicely against the wall not protruding very far at all into the room. I'm thinking already that this 1/200 Yamato will one day sit nicely directly above it! Trumpeters 1/48 u-boat sits comfortably below my ore carrier. The trumpeter u-boat is roughly 55" long. I do realize however that 1/200 will present space issues for a lot of modelers. In closing..........thanks much Nigel for your wonderful review on the Yamato. I could listen to you for hours talking about the hobby.
Put my order in so looking forward to getting a Paddington bear stare from the postie next week 🙂
Hi Nigel, great comparison video, its all in the detail right and you do always include great detail. Just shocked that there is no main gun Barbette detail; and nothing within all thoes photo etched sheets. Just about every ship kit I have ever seen or built comes with both plastic molded detail and included PE brass boxes, vents, doors and grills. Why would Trumpeter leave visibly obious and simple features out of a very expensive kit. Kind regards Dave Porter London
My thoughts exactly Dave. maybe I Love kit and Pontos are working together to bring out a PE set and these omissions will make us want to buy the set? Having said that, I don't think Yamato had all the vents and such as Bismarck did, but nonetheless there are plates, brackets and ladders to my knowledge.
@@NigelsModellingBench Nigel, as I don't have the book on the Yamato, maybe you could talk about this omission in more detail including what the book displays in photographs and Cad during your next video.
Regards Dave Porter London
I did a double-take seeing 'Yamato in 1:200'. Have to limit my ships to 1:700 or my shelving will be gone, as i also build aircraft in 1/144.
Though concentrating more on 1/72 aircraft and their build I really like to watch your fascinating videos on all these large scale kits - so just one question (you might have heard 100 times before): WHERE do you store them?
All over the house!!
Nigel I really enjoy how your experience shows with your breakdown of both kits.. I have to ask are you going to be building both kits..? I’m asking as I’d definitely be interested in watching both but the Trump kit is going to be amazing to follow 👍
I may make a start on one of them? I think the Tamiya kit would be a good intro to the biggie as the modeller will learn from it.
Just thinking would buying the less expensive 1/350 but upgrading with a brass photoetch set be better?
Not sure???
Good morning Nigel how many spruce are in the Tamia Premium Edition I thought there was like 34
A lot lol
I tried building the 1/350 premium Yamato, and the separate bow joint was so poorly done, with mismatching long distance radiuses both vertically and horizontally, that even when I replated 50% of the entire hull plating, the mismatching radiuses and surfaces still showed, under shaving light, all the way around the hull, including the horrendously designed bottom... Keep in mind this joint is near a million delicate details, as well as dozens of rows of very revealing, full length, dead straight plating... It was literally my worst Tamiya experience ever (possibly my worst modelling experience ever, certainly my most bitter), and despite all efforts, the entire $500 thing (with all the AM) is in a landfill now... If your tolerance is fine for a hull looking like two disparate parts joined, but that can still be made to look passable from 5 feet away, then this kit is for you. (BTW, I always prefer moulded-on degaussing cables...)
Thanks for the warning, I had a similar experience (though admittedly much less expensive) with Revell's 1/32 Bf109G-10 and Bf109G-6 kits. They were a weird combination of brilliant moulding combined with what were you people thinking? Half way through the G-6 kit I came to the conclusion trying to make this into an accurate model was going to require a lot of expensive aftermarket stuff simply to correct the inaccuracies, and wasn't sure I'd be satisfied with it even then. For instance why put a cockpit tub in a model when the real aircraft doesn't have one? After a little pondering, both went into the trash can.
I don’t have room for a 1/200 at this point so my question is: the old Tamiya 1/350 + Pontos or just go with the Premium Tamiya 1/350?? It seems to me that the premium would not need a Pontos kit. Looks like it would double up a lot of the PE.
I think probably old kit + Pontos would be the way to go?
@@NigelsModellingBench - The old Tamiya 1/350 Yamato is quite nice, in a general sense...but the premium kit is way more detailed in all kinds of ways. The only real problem appears to be the hull joint at the separate bow parts.
Trumpeter Color call-out has one page with planes, and the second without planes
The build sequence of front to back of the ship is maybe to allow the glue to dry on the small pieces?
There are also no flags on one call out?
Yay first comment, exciting stuff. All that photo etch would drive me insane!
Good morning Nigel I just got my ship by Tamia the Premium Edition Yamamoto and I know it comes with photo etch you think that ship will still look good just with the photo etch comes with a kit can you give me your opinion on that thank you
I believe it needs railings minimum. Perhaps wooden deck and metal barrels too?
Hello Nigel!
I have a off-topic question:
Is it possible that you continue the work on the hull modified Trumpeter Titanic in the future?
Because it really inspired many (how I could read from multiple posts on reddit and another forum (i forgot the name) including me!
Would love to see a "revival" of that video series from you because there are no comparable videos on RUclips! 😊
🙏
Maybe one day.. trouble is, I can only work on what interests me at the time. No point in working on something you dont enjoy??
I think they are cat flaps at the bottom of the doors :)
Hi Nigel,Not really significant BUT comment amount wont hurt,So. After seeing you modding a hull i thought i would have a bash at a ship kit in the 1/350th scale,just about the right size and price for me. As usual i thought Tamiya would be the best bet quality and fit wise for me the novice. Having only really done 35th armour. So went with the Tamiya 1/350th King George VI .After opening the box and looking at the contents i was surprised how little there was to build and detail very basic. I sold it straight away at half cost. If i was to build a ship kit i would certainly see if there was a more detailed 350th? 350th might be detail lacking? if the latter i would go larger scale. This is just the observation of a novice looking at ship kits ,coming from well detailed 35th kits.
Some of the newer ship kits like this Tamiya Premium and the new Very Fire kits are amazing. The old Tamiya Battleships are just that.. old!!
The KGV Tamiya kit is an old tooling from 1985. I built the Tamiya Prince of Wales last year. Which is basically the same kit as KGV. It was a little basic. But with the addition of wooden deck sets, metal barrels, and the Eduard cranes & railings PE set. It built up into a pretty decent model. But the newer Tamiya 1/350 ships are much better. Their 2 Mogami and Tone Cruisers, plus the premium Yamato kit, very good kits.
I have the Yukikaze which is also very nice Gary.
the tamiya deck is dreadful, you'll need filler which kills the planking (you'll need to rub it down) you'll also need filler for the hull joints too............ don't touch the Tamiya if you get impatient and fed up quickly because the P.E is very fiddly....... stick to 1/35 tanks...lol.
The Japanese pronounce it "YA-ma-to". Think "BAR-bar-a" or "MEL-a-nie" and you've got it.
1 200 new Yamato is full of errors
One thing mate..that tamiya aint perfect aswell...even japanese modellers are fixing it based on dive pictures of musashi.