I received my R1T in June of 2022 with no issues like you did. Only problem was the bed cover and my radio. No drive problems at all. Still love the truck.
i had tones of problems with my R1T i sold it and just bought a tesla and all my problems are a thing of the past the trash quality of rivian is laughable to me now what a clown car.
Your experience with a failure that Rivian service was unable to root cause and fix isn't limited to Rivian. I had a similar experience with my 2017 Subaru Outback. Its 12V battery would drain overnight while the car was in the garage - and it would do that every night. I had to jumpstart it from my wife's Corolla. I brought the Outback to an official Subaru dealer. They charged the battery, ran the checks, and told me they couldn't find any issue, and that the problem was that I didn't drive enough miles per day to recharge the battery. I had to search the internet myself, only to find out that this was caused by a subsystem (Starlink) which charged itself even when the vehicle was not running, thereby draining the battery. The fix was for me to bridge two contacts in the fuse box so that the subsystem would only charge when the car was running, which completely fixed the issue. From what I read at the time, Subaru never admitted there was a problem, even though many owners of 2017 and 2018 Outbacks experienced this issue. So, if Rivian admits there is an issue and that they are trying to figure it out, that's even better compared to an established manufacturer like Subaru who just went into denial.
I have a 2016 Outback and have to replace the battery every year for the same reason. It’s wicked obnoxious and no dealer tech or service advisor cares to look into issues like this. Thank you for addressing it!
We've had our R1S coming up a year now and we still love it with only a couple minor issues fixed at service; tailgate spring broke, and panel fitment issues. They've made some great progress on more recent vins as you may expect. Hopefully they fix the refresh coming this year.
He mostly didn’t use his Rivian due to the charging network outside of Tesla. He would had used the Rivian more if the charging on road trips were to be easier. I think he will get the cyber truck
I just got an email asking if I wanted a Foundation Series Cybertruck. So you're likely correct! 100k is way too much for my budget. I also just purchased a MY LR in Dec. 2023, figuring that it was going to be 2-3 years before my CT reservation came up in the que. IF the CT price manages to drop down to 60k, then I'll buy one. The foundation series is just too expensive IMHO.
@@worrellthomas3735Yes, the cybertruck is super cool but it’s a big fail for the electric car industry. People buying this thing don’t need a truck. I was considering buying one before realising that.
@@kng128 Because Tesla superchargers are the only reliable EV chargers. I bought a Tesla over a Rivian for this sole reason. The R1T was what I really wanted, but I couldn't deal with the sub-par charging situation.
I parked my 2023 Model S Plaid for 2 months whilst overseas. I kept monitoring the battery drop on the App. When I left, the charge was at 79%. After 5 weeks the charge had dropped to 72%. The car was parked in my garage and the temperature in my garage never dropped below 10C (50F) and never went above 15C (59F) Posted just for general information, for what it's worth.
Dude, most of your complaints about your Rivian sound nearly identical to my 2015 (bought new) Tesla Model S 85D. There are still bugs in that car that haven’t been resolved, and I’ve replaced so many different entire systems in that vehicle due to simply just wearing out. Part of the EV game we play I think.
A 2015 S is something that in EV terms is many generations old. Things have changed a lot. We have a 2018 Model 3 and a 2021 Plaid S . Not a single issue with them. Not one. Only maintenance is fluid for the windshield-wiper. Recent CR report shows that Tesla is (by a good margin) the cheapest cars to maintain.
I have a 2016 S 75D with 130k miles. The only issue I've had with it is that the high voltage battery pyro fuse needed to be replaced at 7 years old, but that was covered under power train warranty. Upside is that I got an appointment 3 days after the warning message popped up and the appointment only took 30 minutes. Other than that, my model S has had zero problems.
Sorry to hear about the problems you had with this truck and your battery on the Model Y. I've have no issues so far with Model 3 (80k miles), Y (70k miles) and now R1S (3k miles..). All doing great with no issues
As an owner of a aging Model S (2013), I realize I'm going to have to replace it eventually. I keep test driving, and looking over new EV's from other companies, but I keep stopping myself. Tesla just has so much of this stuff ironed out that I feel like I may be making a foolish mistake, especially when this is the vehicle I rely on everyday. I'm sure a lot of the other brands offerings have caught up to my aging Tesla, but then a new Tesla would probably be even better yet.
I have 5 EV’s.currently and use them for Turo. 2 Teslas. MY and M3. VW ID4, Ford F150 Lightning, and a Cadillac Lyriq. I really like the Lyriq, and charging infrastructure has been OK where Ilive for non Tesla’s
I drove Teslas exclusively since 2013 - S then X, 3 then Y. Sold my 2016 X last year as its 8 year battery/powertrain and extended warranties were wrapping up soon. Replaced it with a Rivian R1S, because the new Model X felt like a downgrade in some respects - Tesla keeps removing things like radar and ultrasonic sensors, and steering wheel stalks for signals and shifting. R1S has more 3rd row and cargo space due to its boxier shape, and a large frunk with powered hood. I had an electrical issue at the beginning - a loose ground wire caused 12V problems - but everything else has been great, including fit and finish. And the regular monthly updates have added significant functionality. Charging is like the Supercharger network 5 or so years ago, not great but I've figured out the places that work for my usual trips. Very glad I went with the R1S, especially now that Supercharger access is coming very soon.
@@pskirby128I live in Bend, OR. Not sure where you're at, but the number of Rivians on the roads here is crazy. Beautiful rides. Can't afford a R1T, or R1S, but here's hoping the R2 is as great as it could be. There's a pretty healthy charging infrastructure here, especially non Tesla charging, but as you pointed out, won't matter much longer.
Agree lots of wind noise and build issues for a high priced vehicle. I have had too many issues. Long wait times at Costa Mesa service. 6+ service visits and months in the service center in a year of ownership doesn’t bring confidence. I respect they’re doing their best, but being a beta tester for a new company isn’t for everyone. Our Tesla Model Y in comparison has been so much more reliable with extremely quick service, not apples to apples I know but it’s our other electric car experience. Like Ryan I have to agree the drive and interior quality is very nice (as one would expect at this price point). OTA updates have actually made substantial quality of life improvements including much better suspension feel and dampening. I do appreciate the updates, its just not enough to recommend the vehicle or company as it stands based on my experiences.
Wind noise road noise in an EV is another level of annoying. A few turns of the seasons depending on the region, interior vibration will drive your nerves wild. Music, loud music is key
ADDITIONAL: I rented a Rivian R1S from Enterprise while on vacation this past January. I only liked four things about the vehicle- it's size [I used to own a SUV] top down back up camera, power frunk and the wifi hot spot. Everything else I hated including that there is no glovebox [that is a sin] and the center display doesn't have a web browser [also a sin]. Tesla has it all over these guys. When the time comes [if the time comes] for me to purchase my second Tesla, it will be one of their SUVs.
I bought Tesla’s first generation Model S (2014 P85+) and still have it today. 10 years and 161k miles later, it remains the most reliable and most affordable vehicle I’ve ever owned. With noting one if its greatest strengths is its unlimited access to free Supercharging, saving over $5000+/year in comparable gas costs, not mention all the money saved on other ICE-related maintenance of course. Yes, Tesla has made numerous improvements with the Model S since, but the OTA software updates have kept it feeling new over the years. Additionally, an LTE/infotainment upgrade that included a higher resolution drivers display made the experience even better and more in line with a more recent version. Cosmetically, I did a chrome delete and swapped the front bumper for a refreshed one, for an external appearance similar to a 2021 model. Feels great having a Model S that still looks new, operates like new, and feels like new, with unlimited free Supercharging (thank you Tesla). What’s also great is Tesla has offered to transfer the unlimited Supercharging to a new S, X, 3, or Y. While I think there’s benefits waiting for second gen products, in the case of Tesla’s Model S, being an early adopter has proved to have been an excellent decision, though I supposed it could be argued that the original Roadster could be counted as Tesla’s first generation product, making the S actually their second generation effort, but still first generation in terms of the actual model itself.
I think the R2 reveal better blow people’s minds, because I think Rivian needs about ten billion dollars more than it has now to make it through the R2 ramp in 2027. Rivian will not get that money unless they have a product that astonishes and thrills.
@@LuisAngelSantos The R2 looks pretty good, and if they can sell it at $45,000 at a profit they should be able to find enough buyers to survive. The other two look nice, no estimated date for arrival and no cost.,,,
1. Access to superchargers granted. 2. They replaced my cover but mine worked fine. 3. My maps worked fine. 4. 30k miles and super solid. 5. Love road trips. Using plug share to research working stations. 6. No issues with High voltage battery.
Thanks for this rundown. I've sworn off buying cars for a long time, but I also feel I can get one of these for a song once their lineup starts shipping with native NACS plugs. I hoped you would compare the ADAS systems between Tesla and Rivian, but the plethora of other issues you raised were more valuable than that.
My brother loves his R1T which he picked up in 2022 and manages to road trip regularly in the South where charging infrastructure is not so developed. Has hand no problems requiring service. We have been very happy with Tesla 3 and Y but will Probably need to replace aging ICE vehicle in next few yrs. Excited for new R2S since I am not loving the lack of stalks on updated 3 and lack of parking sensors.
My Model 3 is coming up on 6 years old this summer and I want to replace it with a Model Y or Rivian R2 at the end of this year. If Tesla delays the refresh of the Model Y too long, I think a lot of us will go with the R2 - depending on when it will be available. Your nightmare road trip won't cause me to hesitate if the R2 has a NACS port in the correct spot for Superchargers. The only slight worry is that currently the Ford EVs are limited to V3 and V4 Superchargers but that's with the CCS adapter. I assume with a native NACS port, you could use any version Tesla Supercharger.
I have an R1T purchased early (July 2022) because I, too, wanted the Tonneau cover. At first, I had a few minor issues with it. I found, however, that using a dry lube available for bicycle chains, I no longer had any problems with the cover and the sound radically decreased. I lubed twice a year. I just had mine replaced under recall and the new one appears to be better. Interestingly, I have had none of the problems you report with software, fit and lag time. I have, however, had real challenges charging on the road which I don't have with my Model Y. All the problems were with Electrify America towers. Nevertheless, I still travel extensively with my R1T.
@@br_ok_inIt had nothing to do with being unselfish. To qualify for the new charging network subsidies, it has to be open. For someone who claims to be libertarian, Elon sure likes to chase subsidies.
Got the r1T 1quad motor on 12/31 its amazing. i have had 3 teslas. R1T is way better than i thought and I am a huge Musk/Tesla fan. Rivian vibe is really refreshing. A+ experience for me so far
Excited for the R2 price, range, and features. Regarding EV future, I suspect a continuing down trend based on the number of tech job lay-offs that I'm seeing in Northern California. Typically the Bay Area tech folks are early adopters of new tech etc and big purchases are normal given their usually higher earning capacity but give the recent and extent of volume of lay-offs I can only suppose that EV's would be sold back and/or any consideration of purchasing an EV is off the table until the economy or tech jobs comeback to the bay.
I'm also an R1T owner, and have done several cross country trips. While 3rd party charging isn't the best, it's not as bad as you're suggesting. Tesla Supercharger access will also fix these issues. Rivan does prioritize fixes. I too had some service center trips when I first took delivery, the fixes have made my truck super reliable now, and a blast to drive. Honestly, this video really sounds like you're just justifying your action of selling the vehicle, and unnecessarily dragging them through the mud. For that reason, I've unfollowed.
Phantom drain is not limited to Rivian. It's not uncommon to see a Model S with 3-5% daily phantom drain. The 1% over 2 weeks on the EV6 it's pretty amazing.
I parked my Tesla model 3in a friend’s garage for 10 months with 220 miles during the pandemic, when I came back to office, it still had more than 80 miles and I was able to drive right away without any issues, except that tires showed a little bit low pressure.
@@benjaminfranklin4760 I've heard about Teslas randomly slamming on the brakes on the highway due to a glitch or something it didn't see during self driving mode. Thats terrifying imagine ur car just slamming on the brakes when everyone around you is going 70 MPH
I cancelled my launch priced R1S mostly due to charge availability. Having driven a Tesla for 8 years and experienced range anxiety early on, i was not ready to go through it again. My on road price for the R1S would have been 70k 😊
I’ve never had an issue with EV Go, ChargePoint, or EA chargers. And Tesla SCs are coming real soon. Never had a recall on mine… Never had a fault warning. No issues with build quality. I also think I’m in the majority of owners. Ryan had one of the first trucks released to public…
Compared to a lot of their peers and other automakers, Rivian is pretty darn good. But as good as they are, they still serve as a clear example of just how impressive Tesla is. Tesla was founded only 6 years earlier than Rivian... Even if you account for those 6 years, Rivian is trailing Tesla in pretty much every metric -- vehicle sales, margins, charging network, software-prowess, factories, etc. And Tesla has given them (and everyone else) a precise product portfolio and business plan to copy and follow. Plus they are only tackling the automotive business while Tesla has (and had) much broader business (AI, batteries, solar) while running their automotive business at a a much deeper level of vertical integration.
Traded my R1T three months ago, mainly because I moved and have no way to charge it. I loved the truck, but had numerous issues with the air suspension, charging port getting fried and the Driver's +/navigation was garbage. Resale value is pretty bad and even though I was a pre-order, it didn't bode well for trading. Loved everything else though and miss it. Fingers crossed they get a better UI and navigation as Map Box is worthless. I would definitely buy again if they could get their prices lower and improve the quality.
My Rivian is the best truck I’ve ever had, had zero issues with mine…if you think Rivian has issues though try owning a Ford, or GM, or dodge…they all suck and all have big issues too with some owners having non too. The Rivian even with all its flaws is still 1000times better then any ice truck or car. This coming from a guy who has owned almost 100 vehicles over m6 50years on earth.
On a tangential matter, I had a great experience charging my Tesla using one of Rivian's level 2 chargers. It only cost USD 0.15 per kWh, and the app was easy enough to use. The location at a trailhead was great.
Sad to hear you say you sold the R1T. I bought mine due to multiple YTs getting them and showing off the cool features. I'm loving my R1T. I would have bought the R1S if the price was the same (bought used). It's great for my use case. Have a diesel truck for my RV and a hybrid for long trips/wife's car.
Ryan, thanks for your honest assessment…. Good and bad. I canceled my R1T order months ago for the primary fears you experienced. The charging network, though, was the biggest reason. I bought a Tesla and couldn’t be happier.
I’ve been looking at Rivian for some time , the price went up to 100k vs the 75 for early buyers and with the new 2025 so many old issues are mostly improved like battery drain , battery issue locked at 13mph so selling now your really not taking a loss as you won’t lose that much for owing a car for a year, cyber truck is just too long so def need the rear wheels turning helps like the hummer EV I just test drove a 2025 much smoother, heat pump 50k 4 yr warranty , stereo is great now, but the driver+ needs better auto lane change. For now I’ll just not have a car and save up
I’m sorry you had to let your R1T go and hope you didn’t lose too much on it. We love our R1S with a family of 5. With the exception of the passenger door latch issue, everything seems to be holding up. I hope we don’t have the same problems as you.
If I used this as a work truck it'd be a non-starter because of the reliability issues and service time/logistics. Tesla will be ok, but Lucid and Rivian may be in trouble since the affluent customers who can splurge on a luxury EV have already bought them (and they're probably Teslas). The R2S will be make-or-break for Rivian. I'm sure it'll look cool, but any more than $40k will be a tough sell in this market, even if they manage to iron out their service problems.
Though unacceptable I think most of this is because of early build. My march of 23 R1T has had only a few minor things in 29k miles already. Yes it can be argued that even minor things aren't acceptable with a new vehicle but it's still my favorite vehicle I've ever owned. Drive experience is amazing. Better than either of my Teslas and any ICE I've ever had.
Glad you never had a dent or damage. Have seen other videos where they backed into a wall and minor damage. But the repair costs were astronomical. I wonder if the govt is partially funding large car insurance companies on EVs to "synthetically" keep the costs down.
I have a 2024 Cadillac Lyriq AWD. So far I love the car. Just in case anything goes wrong: Cadillac is 3 miles away. I have a home charger, but for 2 years I have EVgo free. Therefore, I'll make as much use of it as I can.
The charging situation with all over Ev's besides Tesla is a huge thing for me. I have looked at Rivian for years and hoping they add more chargers on the East coast.
TBH I had pretty much the same and even worse experience with my Tesla M3P which has slowly been degrading to total standstill after 2 years of ownership. It started with the screen going dead and ended with the driving computer dying. The car has been at the Tesla shop for 3 months with little to no communication. Absolutely horrifying experience.
Personally, I’m rooting for Rivian and Lucid to succeed for variety sake. Tesla at some point will brand saturated where people will not want the same car as everyone else. Legacy autos are too stuck in their box to know what a car could be.
I wonder if you have back issues driving in the Model Y. That's the one thing (along with lack of Apple Car Play) that I hated about the Model Y on Southern California freeways. I'm shocked at the errors you received. I still see the occasional R1T on the road. Also, calling the 13 miles per hour a "corner case" is ridiculous. That is one thing I like about my now 18-month-old Ford Mach-e. I have 27,000 miles and zero issues. I did have one, where I couldn't fast charge. Turns out a piece of plastic had gotten stuck in the DC fast charging area.
Agreed Tesla way over promises all the time. Cybertruck so underwhelming. Rivian blows it away can’t wait to see the new R2S introduction. Hopefully Rivian does survive. I’m sold. Plus I have a lever for my blinder and one for putting my car in gear.
Agreed Tesla way over promises all the time. Cybertruck so underwhelming. Rivian blows it away can’t wait to see the new R2S introduction. Hopefully Rivian does survive. I’m sold. Plus I have a lever for my blinker and one for putting my car in gear. So crazy those don’t exist on a Tesla. But those cars can drive themselves.
I just want an EV truck or SUV from Rivian or Tesla that has parking assist. There’s so much hub bub about full self driving, why can’t we aim a little lower and just solve parking first ?
I’m on the cusp of buying a Model Y and the only thing I’m waiting on is that R2.. I really hope Rivian can fix their software issues because the R1s &T just look awesome.. would love to see Rivian do well.. There SUVs on a decent battery though are just unaffordable for the average joe.
Thanks for the video. I put my order in for an R2. Now I think I'm quickly regretting it. When you spend 100,000 on luxury vehicles, "R1" you have a speed limiter at 110 MPH, I'm out 👎🏽🤬 800 + horsepower 900 + torque.
Teslas are reliable. I put 40k + miles annually on my MS, besides paying less than $150 a month for insurance it has had zero other issues from maint to software….and it’s an old 2017 100d. I got an EV to avoid maint headaches, I’m apprehensive to get anything that can’t do a clean run to 250k miles….
if I get an electric vehicle - a big if because I'm a late adopter of tech - the first EV I get will be the R2. I currently love my Subaru Forester, where I can throw everything in back in a climate controlled space.
I like how the rivian offers bigger cars..if any maker makes a bigger interior vehicle than the r1t or at least lets me reconfigure that middle seat i would buy it
The vampire drain in my cyber truck is about 6 or 7 KW per day. When It sits idle in the garage. No sentry mode in California where we don't have weather.
If you have proximity lock/unlock disabled at home, check if either any of the door/frunk latch sensors are functioning. Same goes for seat belts. Something is preventing the car from going sleep
I have a 21 Y but won't get a new one until it's a garitee 100 % charging rate all the time. Range of 350 miles, winter, summer, air on, heat on, radio on, All the shit I paid for. Now afraid to use when traveling .
I really hope Amazon helps Rivian stick around a bit longer, their whole philosophy/design/marketing around adventure is spectacular. Yes Tesla might be the tech powerhouse. But I don't think Rivian needs to be designing/manufacturing their own batteries and developing from the ground up autonomous driving software. I think CATL and other battery manufacturers with their singular focus being on designing and building batteries will outpace anyone else including Tesla. Tesla is not stupid though and are ahead of everyone except China when it comes to manufacturing costs but even they switched their Semi to LFP batteries, so even Tesla is not immune in trying to maintain profitable at all costs.
Hmmm. You say it’s a great vehicle overall and had a lot of fun. Follow up with a litany of problems (build, electrical, software, charging, service). In selling I think you finally figured out what “Walk away reset” really means.
Walk away reset, how gullible are Rivian owners ?? LOL I love the way Rivian kept clearing and removing the evidence of problems from the car's logs too 🤣
So - Not really a truck user.. Tesla's large SUV (misnamed as a Pickup-Truck) is probably a better fit. Roadtripping in a Diesel or Diesel hybrid truck manes more sense, as towing is less affected by increased trailer drag... Experiences worth recording??
After enumerating the issues you experienced with your truck, you mentioned Rivian built an incredible product. Perhaps the definition of incredible has changed?
I reserved an R1T two years ago. A few things have happened since then: - I had a delivery window that Rivian could never meet. It was pushed back many, many times. -All of the sudden the price of my truck went up $15K. I cancelled. They backtracked and I reserved again at the same introductory price. -After months passed by and customers were getting their vehicles I asked what was happening mine. I was told there was no service center in my area and they couldn't deliver until one was close to me. - Many other months passed by. The car I configured disappeared from my account. Rivian wants me to buy the already configured ones. -Rivian is now giving me until September 20th to buy my car or I will lose the initial price I locked in back in 2022 (or2021?). -Despite not having a service center near my area (the closet one is Houston and I live in New Orleans) Rivian tells me that no matter what after September 20th my car will be more expensive as I lose my initial price. I want to make note that a technician may come and try to solve any problems with the vehicle free of charge. If unable to be fixed service may not be guaranteed to be covered and I may need to cover the costs of transportation if Rivian deems necessary. This has become a hard buy for me. I will likely cancel and purchase something else.
early in viewing the video but I would like to get the R3X once it comes out which I hope it does. This would be my first time going electric, would you do Rivian or Tesla as the first electric vehicle?
As a two time Tesla owner that has experienced unacceptable issues too, with massive depreciation as salt on my wounds, I have come to the conclusion that to avoid all these problems means buying a Toyota hybrid… the very company and type of car the EV world was clowning just a year ago.
They must lose so much money on every car they sell. Not only is it sold at a loss but the servicing - towing when the car bricks or sending a tech to your house for a fix must all add up. Wonder if the trucks at Amazon have the same issues? A real problem for commercial customers.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts, Ryan. BTW, how much was Carmax offering for your R1T? Rivian extended my delivery of R1S quad as an early reservation holder INDEFINITELY, where I wanted to just cancel. With the binding agreement and the state credit, i can purchase R1S quad for $625000. What do you think?
I be never buying test car from new company for 100k! How now people want some interesting between all old gas car buying this pilot test drive vehicle☹️
Ive owned a model 3 so I'm not a EV hater. That said, what I hear you saying is don't buy a Rivian. A vehicle never makes sense if you can't drive it when you get in it. Otherwise, its a beautiful expensive paper weight.
Your headaches aren't the first I've heard about the Rivan. A coworker of mine has the R1S and he's had quite a few random glitches with his. I really like the look of it vs the model X. I enjoyed the 3 years with my model 3 performance but it wasn't perfect (no car is) but I'm happily back in a normal ICE vehicle for a while. I'm a musician also and needed more space than the M3 had. On the flip side, the wife is now in an XC90 Volvo hybrid and we've enjoyed not dealing with gas with that vehicle. It gets about 35 miles of EV range and her daily commute is less than that. According to the trip computer, it's driven nearly 1400 miles since last fill up. We considered the Q8 Etron too but ultimately decided to go hybrid. In the trips we've taken with it, it's nice not having to worry about finding a charger that may or may not work and realistically, when we did the math for charging in terms of how many miles per kW and the MPG her XC90 gets, the cost of fuel vs electricity wasn't that different and also just being able to get in the car and drive uninterrupted for 500+ miles regardless of how cold it is outside is nice.
It’s fair to call our efficiency and phantom drain. But come on. Compare that to the 30%-35% (maybe) for ICE. Ur still coming out significantly ahead going with any BEV over ICE on efficiency. It’s not remotely close.
Sounds like typical gen 1 issues. Seems like yesterday Tesla was going through the same thing! I’m keeping my eye on Rivian! I’m feeling a major player will come in and take them over! These vehicles look a bit more plush than Tesla. Which I like!
I like Rivian. I don’t understand why they are building a new car when they are already losing money on every sale now? Are they profitable on a variable basis and just need to cover fixed overhead costs? Or what’s the deal. I’m cautious about buying a car from a manufacturer that could go under.
Electrify America is a bust. Our government gave a slap to VW to roll out a half-baked implementation so they could reimburse for Dieselgate. There was some movement to get VW to be held accountable for the dismal reliability of these charging stations, but alas, it has gone quiet. The only way is hoping you could cover this topic so it could drum up visibility.
Fantastic and objective review. Rivian seems like a company trying very hard to remain viable, and I’m pulling for them. Maybe the R2 and R3 will be their Tesla model 3 moment.
EVs still have some work to do. Once affordable vehicles with solid state batteries come that offer, extreme weather performance, long cycle life batteries like 500k, more power density, more performance, more safety, larger charging network, affordable replacement batteries, 3rd party mechanics, faster charging times and a significant reduction in weight to the vehicle, I really don't see why you anyone that can charge at home wouldn't want one.
You are quite correct....road tripping in any EV other than a Tesla is a nightmare. My sister owns a Cadillac Lyriq....did not have a great time from SD to Stockton and back. While we make the same RT with less than 40 minutes and two stops. Never waited for a charger, never charged for more than 25 minutes.
Would you change your mind if leasing and standard pack was available when you got it? There’s also a new service center in Eastvale. I recently did a demo drive there. I may lease a standard pack R1T. Like you I don’t need a truck and happy with our Tesla cars but there are times we need one. I was impressed with the demo drive and with NACS support coming and a closer service center, I can consider another EV brand other than Tesla
Im confused. What were the pros that outwieghed the cons? Cause you named a lot of cons. Personally just bought a new truck a couple years ago for 33k dollars. Ive had exactly 0 visits for service. 4 oil changes that took less time than you did charging. Its done every job ive asked it to do with no issues. It even has bluetooth for my phone music and electric windows so i don't even have to crank them. Im so lazy lol but the real icing on the cake is that it has cruise control!!!!!!!
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I received my R1T in June of 2022 with no issues like you did. Only problem was the bed cover and my radio. No drive problems at all. Still love the truck.
i had tones of problems with my R1T i sold it and just bought a tesla and all my problems are a thing of the past the trash quality of rivian is laughable to me now what a clown car.
@@CUZC0M sounds like you don’t have a Tesla. As the owner of a Rivian and two teslas the Rivian is a much more well built vehicle overall.
@@Shumdit1 sounds like you don't own either to me tbh...
@@CUZC0M please, tesla's have all kinds of issues. its well documented.
@@CUZC0M🙄 guy Tesla had this exact same problems at first..
Your experience with a failure that Rivian service was unable to root cause and fix isn't limited to Rivian. I had a similar experience with my 2017 Subaru Outback. Its 12V battery would drain overnight while the car was in the garage - and it would do that every night. I had to jumpstart it from my wife's Corolla. I brought the Outback to an official Subaru dealer. They charged the battery, ran the checks, and told me they couldn't find any issue, and that the problem was that I didn't drive enough miles per day to recharge the battery. I had to search the internet myself, only to find out that this was caused by a subsystem (Starlink) which charged itself even when the vehicle was not running, thereby draining the battery. The fix was for me to bridge two contacts in the fuse box so that the subsystem would only charge when the car was running, which completely fixed the issue. From what I read at the time, Subaru never admitted there was a problem, even though many owners of 2017 and 2018 Outbacks experienced this issue. So, if Rivian admits there is an issue and that they are trying to figure it out, that's even better compared to an established manufacturer like Subaru who just went into denial.
Sounds like that technician was useless.
@@johnrcoben agree you would think there would be a way to tell a battery has an above average parasitic load on it when the car is off
I have a 2016 Outback and have to replace the battery every year for the same reason. It’s wicked obnoxious and no dealer tech or service advisor cares to look into issues like this. Thank you for addressing it!
Can you please explain in simple terms how did you do that? I also have a OB 2017 and suffer from this problem, I dont use starlink
@@ashokpadhy1100 it can be anything in your car that draws power when its off short term just disconnect the battery when you park it for the night
We've had our R1S coming up a year now and we still love it with only a couple minor issues fixed at service; tailgate spring broke, and panel fitment issues. They've made some great progress on more recent vins as you may expect. Hopefully they fix the refresh coming this year.
Spoiler alert someone has a cybertruck coming.
He did say he realized he didn’t need a truck though..
He mostly didn’t use his Rivian due to the charging network outside of Tesla. He would had used the Rivian more if the charging on road trips were to be easier. I think he will get the cyber truck
Ryan has afford pay to play
I just got an email asking if I wanted a Foundation Series Cybertruck. So you're likely correct!
100k is way too much for my budget. I also just purchased a MY LR in Dec. 2023, figuring that it was going to be 2-3 years before my CT reservation came up in the que.
IF the CT price manages to drop down to 60k, then I'll buy one. The foundation series is just too expensive IMHO.
@@worrellthomas3735Yes, the cybertruck is super cool but it’s a big fail for the electric car industry. People buying this thing don’t need a truck. I was considering buying one before realising that.
Tesla superchargers will save the road tripping with Rivians.
My brother's RS is amazing...charging on the road scares me though.
@@qpham63scares you charging on the road? How come?
@@kng128 Because Tesla superchargers are the only reliable EV chargers. I bought a Tesla over a Rivian for this sole reason. The R1T was what I really wanted, but I couldn't deal with the sub-par charging situation.
We just better hope that Tesla chargers don’t become over crowded
@@JET34568 not a real issue on 90% of charging stations in Europe. But there are few stations that during holidays and weekends have queues.
I parked my 2023 Model S Plaid for 2 months whilst overseas. I kept monitoring the battery drop on the App.
When I left, the charge was at 79%. After 5 weeks the charge had dropped to 72%.
The car was parked in my garage and the temperature in my garage never dropped below 10C (50F) and never went above 15C (59F)
Posted just for general information, for what it's worth.
Dude, most of your complaints about your Rivian sound nearly identical to my 2015 (bought new) Tesla Model S 85D. There are still bugs in that car that haven’t been resolved, and I’ve replaced so many different entire systems in that vehicle due to simply just wearing out. Part of the EV game we play I think.
A 2015 S is something that in EV terms is many generations old. Things have changed a lot. We have a 2018 Model 3 and a 2021 Plaid S . Not a single issue with them. Not one. Only maintenance is fluid for the windshield-wiper. Recent CR report shows that Tesla is (by a good margin) the cheapest cars to maintain.
I have a 2016 S 75D with 130k miles. The only issue I've had with it is that the high voltage battery pyro fuse needed to be replaced at 7 years old, but that was covered under power train warranty. Upside is that I got an appointment 3 days after the warning message popped up and the appointment only took 30 minutes. Other than that, my model S has had zero problems.
Sorry to hear about the problems you had with this truck and your battery on the Model Y. I've have no issues so far with Model 3 (80k miles), Y (70k miles) and now R1S (3k miles..). All doing great with no issues
As an owner of a aging Model S (2013), I realize I'm going to have to replace it eventually. I keep test driving, and looking over new EV's from other companies, but I keep stopping myself. Tesla just has so much of this stuff ironed out that I feel like I may be making a foolish mistake, especially when this is the vehicle I rely on everyday.
I'm sure a lot of the other brands offerings have caught up to my aging Tesla, but then a new Tesla would probably be even better yet.
I have 5 EV’s.currently and use them for Turo. 2 Teslas. MY and M3. VW ID4, Ford F150 Lightning, and a Cadillac Lyriq. I really like the Lyriq, and charging infrastructure has been OK where Ilive for non Tesla’s
@@carlfriedrichs2404the Lyric keeps getting brought up often. What do you think of it so far?
I drove Teslas exclusively since 2013 - S then X, 3 then Y. Sold my 2016 X last year as its 8 year battery/powertrain and extended warranties were wrapping up soon. Replaced it with a Rivian R1S, because the new Model X felt like a downgrade in some respects - Tesla keeps removing things like radar and ultrasonic sensors, and steering wheel stalks for signals and shifting. R1S has more 3rd row and cargo space due to its boxier shape, and a large frunk with powered hood. I had an electrical issue at the beginning - a loose ground wire caused 12V problems - but everything else has been great, including fit and finish. And the regular monthly updates have added significant functionality. Charging is like the Supercharger network 5 or so years ago, not great but I've figured out the places that work for my usual trips. Very glad I went with the R1S, especially now that Supercharger access is coming very soon.
@@pskirby128I live in Bend, OR. Not sure where you're at, but the number of Rivians on the roads here is crazy. Beautiful rides. Can't afford a R1T, or R1S, but here's hoping the R2 is as great as it could be. There's a pretty healthy charging infrastructure here, especially non Tesla charging, but as you pointed out, won't matter much longer.
How’s your Model S going?
Agree lots of wind noise and build issues for a high priced vehicle. I have had too many issues. Long wait times at Costa Mesa service. 6+ service visits and months in the service center in a year of ownership doesn’t bring confidence. I respect they’re doing their best, but being a beta tester for a new company isn’t for everyone. Our Tesla Model Y in comparison has been so much more reliable with extremely quick service, not apples to apples I know but it’s our other electric car experience.
Like Ryan I have to agree the drive and interior quality is very nice (as one would expect at this price point). OTA updates have actually made substantial quality of life improvements including much better suspension feel and dampening. I do appreciate the updates, its just not enough to recommend the vehicle or company as it stands based on my experiences.
@angryGTS Maybe you got a lemon. My MY has been great and very dependable and I have no issue so far (knock on wood).
@@lancetruong4957 ditto, our MY has been super dependable.
Wind noise road noise in an EV is another level of annoying. A few turns of the seasons depending on the region, interior vibration will drive your nerves wild. Music, loud music is key
Lesson learned: Never buy the first year of a new model or redesign; you will end up being auto manufacturers' beta tester! [guinea pig].
ADDITIONAL: I rented a Rivian R1S from Enterprise while on vacation this past January. I only liked four things about the vehicle- it's size [I used to own a SUV] top down back up camera, power frunk and the wifi hot spot. Everything else I hated including that there is no glovebox [that is a sin] and the center display doesn't have a web browser [also a sin]. Tesla has it all over these guys. When the time comes [if the time comes] for me to purchase my second Tesla, it will be one of their SUVs.
I bought Tesla’s first generation Model S (2014 P85+) and still have it today. 10 years and 161k miles later, it remains the most reliable and most affordable vehicle I’ve ever owned.
With noting one if its greatest strengths is its unlimited access to free Supercharging, saving over $5000+/year in comparable gas costs, not mention all the money saved on other ICE-related maintenance of course.
Yes, Tesla has made numerous improvements with the Model S since, but the OTA software updates have kept it feeling new over the years. Additionally, an LTE/infotainment upgrade that included a higher resolution drivers display made the experience even better and more in line with a more recent version.
Cosmetically, I did a chrome delete and swapped the front bumper for a refreshed one, for an external appearance similar to a 2021 model.
Feels great having a Model S that still looks new, operates like new, and feels like new, with unlimited free Supercharging (thank you Tesla).
What’s also great is Tesla has offered to transfer the unlimited Supercharging to a new S, X, 3, or Y.
While I think there’s benefits waiting for second gen products, in the case of Tesla’s Model S, being an early adopter has proved to have been an excellent decision, though I supposed it could be argued that the original Roadster could be counted as Tesla’s first generation product, making the S actually their second generation effort, but still first generation in terms of the actual model itself.
uhoh me who is about to buy the 2024 model 3.... hopefully that one doesnt have any issues
So don’t buy the Tesla refresh lol
@@pvic6959 you should be fine. The Model 3 has been out for sometime now and the refresh has a lot of nice upgrades. Congratulations!
Cyber truck? Wait, I thought you said the Rivian was too large and more than you need, plus you are all about efficiency...
I think the R2 reveal better blow people’s minds, because I think Rivian needs about ten billion dollars more than it has now to make it through the R2 ramp in 2027. Rivian will not get that money unless they have a product that astonishes and thrills.
I’m from the future and it’s not just the R2 that launched… but the R3 and R3X!! Rivian pulled two “One More Thing”s!!
@@LuisAngelSantos The R2 looks pretty good, and if they can sell it at $45,000 at a profit they should be able to find enough buyers to survive. The other two look nice, no estimated date for arrival and no cost.,,,
@@tribalypredisposed RJ said R3 would be lower cost than the R2. The R3X will be its top tier trim, so probably 55-65k or something?
1. Access to superchargers granted. 2. They replaced my cover but mine worked fine. 3. My maps worked fine. 4. 30k miles and super solid. 5. Love road trips. Using plug share to research working stations. 6. No issues with High voltage battery.
Thanks for this rundown. I've sworn off buying cars for a long time, but I also feel I can get one of these for a song once their lineup starts shipping with native NACS plugs. I hoped you would compare the ADAS systems between Tesla and Rivian, but the plethora of other issues you raised were more valuable than that.
My brother loves his R1T which he picked up in 2022 and manages to road trip regularly in the South where charging infrastructure is not so developed. Has hand no problems requiring service. We have been very happy with Tesla 3 and Y but will
Probably need to replace aging ICE vehicle in next few yrs. Excited for new R2S since I am not loving the lack of stalks on updated 3 and lack of parking sensors.
My Model 3 is coming up on 6 years old this summer and I want to replace it with a Model Y or Rivian R2 at the end of this year. If Tesla delays the refresh of the Model Y too long, I think a lot of us will go with the R2 - depending on when it will be available. Your nightmare road trip won't cause me to hesitate if the R2 has a NACS port in the correct spot for Superchargers. The only slight worry is that currently the Ford EVs are limited to V3 and V4 Superchargers but that's with the CCS adapter. I assume with a native NACS port, you could use any version Tesla Supercharger.
I have an R1T purchased early (July 2022) because I, too, wanted the Tonneau cover. At first, I had a few minor issues with it. I found, however, that using a dry lube available for bicycle chains, I no longer had any problems with the cover and the sound radically decreased. I lubed twice a year. I just had mine replaced under recall and the new one appears to be better. Interestingly, I have had none of the problems you report with software, fit and lag time. I have, however, had real challenges charging on the road which I don't have with my Model Y. All the problems were with Electrify America towers. Nevertheless, I still travel extensively with my R1T.
Just be grateful Tesla is unselfish with their charging network. Good things happening!
@@br_ok_inIt had nothing to do with being unselfish. To qualify for the new charging network subsidies, it has to be open. For someone who claims to be libertarian, Elon sure likes to chase subsidies.
You got lucky, a lot of people have software bugs.
@@TroySavary Is Rivian's charging network open to other EV?
Did you get recall notice from rivian? Or any power tonneur automatically eligible for replacement? Thx
Got the r1T 1quad motor on 12/31 its amazing. i have had 3 teslas. R1T is way better than i thought and I am a huge Musk/Tesla fan. Rivian vibe is really refreshing. A+ experience for me so far
Excited for the R2 price, range, and features. Regarding EV future, I suspect a continuing down trend based on the number of tech job lay-offs that I'm seeing in Northern California. Typically the Bay Area tech folks are early adopters of new tech etc and big purchases are normal given their usually higher earning capacity but give the recent and extent of volume of lay-offs I can only suppose that EV's would be sold back and/or any consideration of purchasing an EV is off the table until the economy or tech jobs comeback to the bay.
I'm also an R1T owner, and have done several cross country trips. While 3rd party charging isn't the best, it's not as bad as you're suggesting. Tesla Supercharger access will also fix these issues. Rivan does prioritize fixes. I too had some service center trips when I first took delivery, the fixes have made my truck super reliable now, and a blast to drive. Honestly, this video really sounds like you're just justifying your action of selling the vehicle, and unnecessarily dragging them through the mud. For that reason, I've unfollowed.
Phantom drain is not limited to Rivian. It's not uncommon to see a Model S with 3-5% daily phantom drain. The 1% over 2 weeks on the EV6 it's pretty amazing.
I have to leave my ICE truck on a trickle charger so it doesn’t kill the battery. Drain is not a new phenomenon.
Good video. That stinks about all the issues. I haven’t heard this much about the R1S.
I got my R2 reservation in.
Agreed on efficient and usage. The same reason I didn't go for F-150 Lighting and Cybertruck.
I parked my Tesla model 3in a friend’s garage for 10 months with 220 miles during the pandemic, when I came back to office, it still had more than 80 miles and I was able to drive right away without any issues, except that tires showed a little bit low pressure.
Every car company has issues. I work in the tow industry Tesla's are being towed everyday cause a malfunction
What’s the issue. Im thinking about getting one. Plz let me know
@@benjaminfranklin4760 I've heard about Teslas randomly slamming on the brakes on the highway due to a glitch or something it didn't see during self driving mode. Thats terrifying imagine ur car just slamming on the brakes when everyone around you is going 70 MPH
I’ve seen so many Teslas get into car accidents, not even sure if it’s the driver or the car
Tesla are the safest car on the market. Full self driving is 5x safer than human driving.
@@lukevo6485 this is not true as of yet. Hopefully in the future yes but definitely not yet.
That Rivian sounds like a lemon with all the problems you had.
I cancelled my launch priced R1S mostly due to charge availability. Having driven a Tesla for 8 years and experienced range anxiety early on, i was not ready to go through it again. My on road price for the R1S would have been 70k 😊
bro, you lost me when you said the tesla truck is “built incredibly well” LOL
Yep... Says he's impartial then peddles a product that everyone else agrees is horribly badly built lol
I’ve never had an issue with EV Go, ChargePoint, or EA chargers. And Tesla SCs are coming real soon.
Never had a recall on mine…
Never had a fault warning. No issues with build quality.
I also think I’m in the majority of owners. Ryan had one of the first trucks released to public…
He bought a lemon!😢
Compared to a lot of their peers and other automakers, Rivian is pretty darn good. But as good as they are, they still serve as a clear example of just how impressive Tesla is. Tesla was founded only 6 years earlier than Rivian... Even if you account for those 6 years, Rivian is trailing Tesla in pretty much every metric -- vehicle sales, margins, charging network, software-prowess, factories, etc. And Tesla has given them (and everyone else) a precise product portfolio and business plan to copy and follow. Plus they are only tackling the automotive business while Tesla has (and had) much broader business (AI, batteries, solar) while running their automotive business at a a much deeper level of vertical integration.
Traded my R1T three months ago, mainly because I moved and have no way to charge it. I loved the truck, but had numerous issues with the air suspension, charging port getting fried and the Driver's +/navigation was garbage. Resale value is pretty bad and even though I was a pre-order, it didn't bode well for trading. Loved everything else though and miss it. Fingers crossed they get a better UI and navigation as Map Box is worthless. I would definitely buy again if they could get their prices lower and improve the quality.
I wonder who the unlucky person is who bought your Rivian.
R1 EV Fault anxiety, biggest issue.
Thanks Ryan!
My Rivian is the best truck I’ve ever had, had zero issues with mine…if you think Rivian has issues though try owning a Ford, or GM, or dodge…they all suck and all have big issues too with some owners having non too. The Rivian even with all its flaws is still 1000times better then any ice truck or car. This coming from a guy who has owned almost 100 vehicles over m6 50years on earth.
On a tangential matter, I had a great experience charging my Tesla using one of Rivian's level 2 chargers. It only cost USD 0.15 per kWh, and the app was easy enough to use. The location at a trailhead was great.
Sad to hear you say you sold the R1T. I bought mine due to multiple YTs getting them and showing off the cool features. I'm loving my R1T. I would have bought the R1S if the price was the same (bought used). It's great for my use case. Have a diesel truck for my RV and a hybrid for long trips/wife's car.
Ryan, thanks for your honest assessment…. Good and bad. I canceled my R1T order months ago for the primary fears you experienced. The charging network, though, was the biggest reason. I bought a Tesla and couldn’t be happier.
Model y?
God no......A model S long range@@johnathanepic3790
@@johnathanepic3790 Model S long range.
I’ve been looking at Rivian for some time , the price went up to 100k vs the 75 for early buyers and with the new 2025 so many old issues are mostly improved like battery drain , battery issue locked at 13mph
so selling now your really not taking a loss as you won’t lose that much for owing a car for a year, cyber truck is just too long so def need the rear wheels turning helps like the hummer EV
I just test drove a 2025 much smoother, heat pump 50k 4 yr warranty , stereo is great now, but the driver+ needs better auto lane change. For now I’ll just not have a car and save up
I’m sorry you had to let your R1T go and hope you didn’t lose too much on it. We love our R1S with a family of 5. With the exception of the passenger door latch issue, everything seems to be holding up. I hope we don’t have the same problems as you.
Whenever I go to a customer’s house they always have the Rivian in the garage and the Tesla in the driveway collecting dirt 🤣
If I used this as a work truck it'd be a non-starter because of the reliability issues and service time/logistics. Tesla will be ok, but Lucid and Rivian may be in trouble since the affluent customers who can splurge on a luxury EV have already bought them (and they're probably Teslas). The R2S will be make-or-break for Rivian. I'm sure it'll look cool, but any more than $40k will be a tough sell in this market, even if they manage to iron out their service problems.
Though unacceptable I think most of this is because of early build. My march of 23 R1T has had only a few minor things in 29k miles already. Yes it can be argued that even minor things aren't acceptable with a new vehicle but it's still my favorite vehicle I've ever owned. Drive experience is amazing. Better than either of my Teslas and any ICE I've ever had.
Glad you never had a dent or damage. Have seen other videos where they backed into a wall and minor damage. But the repair costs were astronomical. I wonder if the govt is partially funding large car insurance companies on EVs to "synthetically" keep the costs down.
I have had a R1T since Nov 2022 and have had zero issue. They fixed the power tonneau cover. It is also more practical than a CT, in terms of storage.
If, if Rivian can scale it will dominate EV higher end trucks. Interested in the upcoming R2 or a CT mini if it comes out this decade.
can it make fart noise though
@@se6836 fair point
I have a 2024 Cadillac Lyriq AWD. So far I love the car. Just in case anything goes wrong: Cadillac is 3 miles away.
I have a home charger, but for 2 years I have EVgo free. Therefore, I'll make as much use of it as I can.
The charging situation with all over Ev's besides Tesla is a huge thing for me. I have looked at Rivian for years and hoping they add more chargers on the East coast.
Rivian was rated highest for customer loyalty and satisfaction so clearly they didn’t survey you! 😂
Was your truck a launch edition or when was it made, how many miles on it ?
My biggest issue is that you have to do a walk away reset. You shouldn't have to walk away for 30 minutes. Why not make a button combo to do this?!
TBH I had pretty much the same and even worse experience with my Tesla M3P which has slowly been degrading to total standstill after 2 years of ownership. It started with the screen going dead and ended with the driving computer dying. The car has been at the Tesla shop for 3 months with little to no communication. Absolutely horrifying experience.
Personally, I’m rooting for Rivian and Lucid to succeed for variety sake. Tesla at some point will brand saturated where people will not want the same car as everyone else. Legacy autos are too stuck in their box to know what a car could be.
I wonder if you have back issues driving in the Model Y. That's the one thing (along with lack of Apple Car Play) that I hated about the Model Y on Southern California freeways. I'm shocked at the errors you received. I still see the occasional R1T on the road. Also, calling the 13 miles per hour a "corner case" is ridiculous. That is one thing I like about my now 18-month-old Ford Mach-e. I have 27,000 miles and zero issues. I did have one, where I couldn't fast charge. Turns out a piece of plastic had gotten stuck in the DC fast charging area.
How much did you get for your rivian r1t?
It would be great if Tesla bought Rivian and kept and improved Rivian's current and future lineup.
Funny, I remember when Tesla quality was shit and all Tesla fans remain blind to it. Rivian will fine and don’t need Tesla
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Agreed Tesla way over promises all the time. Cybertruck so underwhelming. Rivian blows it away can’t wait to see the new R2S introduction. Hopefully Rivian does survive. I’m sold. Plus I have a lever for my blinder and one for putting my car in gear.
Agreed Tesla way over promises all the time. Cybertruck so underwhelming. Rivian blows it away can’t wait to see the new R2S introduction. Hopefully Rivian does survive. I’m sold. Plus I have a lever for my blinker and one for putting my car in gear. So crazy those don’t exist on a Tesla. But those cars can drive themselves.
I'll take a canoo. Looks much better than Cybertruck AND Rivian.
I just want an EV truck or SUV from Rivian or Tesla that has parking assist. There’s so much hub bub about full self driving, why can’t we aim a little lower and just solve parking first ?
Small issues come with Tesla as well but Rivian is very nice, I am waiting for charging stations of Tesla
I’m on the cusp of buying a Model Y and the only thing I’m waiting on is that R2.. I really hope Rivian can fix their software issues because the R1s &T just look awesome..
would love to see Rivian do well.. There SUVs on a decent battery though are just unaffordable for the average joe.
Thanks for the video. I put my order in for an R2. Now I think I'm quickly regretting it. When you spend 100,000 on luxury vehicles, "R1" you have a speed limiter at 110 MPH, I'm out 👎🏽🤬 800 + horsepower 900 + torque.
Teslas are reliable. I put 40k + miles annually on my MS, besides paying less than $150 a month for insurance it has had zero other issues from maint to software….and it’s an old 2017 100d. I got an EV to avoid maint headaches, I’m apprehensive to get anything that can’t do a clean run to 250k miles….
if I get an electric vehicle - a big if because I'm a late adopter of tech - the first EV I get will be the R2. I currently love my Subaru Forester, where I can throw everything in back in a climate controlled space.
I like how the rivian offers bigger cars..if any maker makes a bigger interior vehicle than the r1t or at least lets me reconfigure that middle seat i would buy it
My experience is go to caravana and they will kind of lowball you over Carmax. Just give it a few weeks and they’ll keep offering more.
The vampire drain in my cyber truck is about 6 or 7 KW per day. When It sits idle in the garage. No sentry mode in California where we don't have weather.
Oh dang. That’s pretty bad. Do you have climate conditioning off too? Where is it wasting battery?
@@tomg9476 climate control is off. Nobody knows where it's going. It's not spoken about yet. Too much but lots of owners are having this issue.
Yeah something is wrong. That’s insane.
If you have proximity lock/unlock disabled at home, check if either any of the door/frunk latch sensors are functioning. Same goes for seat belts. Something is preventing the car from going sleep
@@pting66 lol Yes It's called a software issue
Love your informative vids. Thanks for all the great info.
The gesticulation is distracting, but your a drummer 🥁, so makes sense.👊
If there is anything I’ve learned in the long term Tesla is almost always right 😂😂
Tesla is only brand to trust and buy until ev market grows ❤
Except for vision and lidar 🤐 suddenly I’ve boosted the number of replies there will be on this post bahahhaa
@@kelvpoon nah I agree that still a big L but from what it was to what it is I’m holding out hope 🤣🥲🥲😅😅
I have a 21 Y but won't get a new one until it's a garitee 100 % charging rate all the time. Range of 350 miles, winter, summer, air on, heat on, radio on, All the shit I paid for. Now afraid to use when traveling .
I really hope Amazon helps Rivian stick around a bit longer, their whole philosophy/design/marketing around adventure is spectacular.
Yes Tesla might be the tech powerhouse. But I don't think Rivian needs to be designing/manufacturing their own batteries and developing from the ground up autonomous driving software.
I think CATL and other battery manufacturers with their singular focus being on designing and building batteries will outpace anyone else including Tesla. Tesla is not stupid though and are ahead of everyone except China when it comes to manufacturing costs but even they switched their Semi to LFP batteries, so even Tesla is not immune in trying to maintain profitable at all costs.
Hmmm. You say it’s a great vehicle overall and had a lot of fun. Follow up with a litany of problems (build, electrical, software, charging, service). In selling I think you finally figured out what “Walk away reset” really means.
Walk away reset, how gullible are Rivian owners ?? LOL I love the way Rivian kept clearing and removing the evidence of problems from the car's logs too 🤣
So - Not really a truck user.. Tesla's large SUV (misnamed as a Pickup-Truck) is probably a better fit.
Roadtripping in a Diesel or Diesel hybrid truck manes more sense, as towing is less affected by increased trailer drag...
Experiences worth recording??
Great overview of the issues you faced.
After enumerating the issues you experienced with your truck, you mentioned Rivian built an incredible product. Perhaps the definition of incredible has changed?
I sold my R1T after 5 months because of all the bugs. I now have a FS Cybertruck and it is incredible.
I reserved an R1T two years ago. A few things have happened since then:
- I had a delivery window that Rivian could never meet. It was pushed back many, many times.
-All of the sudden the price of my truck went up $15K. I cancelled. They backtracked and I reserved again at the same introductory price.
-After months passed by and customers were getting their vehicles I asked what was happening mine. I was told there was no service center in my area and they couldn't deliver until one was close to me.
- Many other months passed by. The car I configured disappeared from my account. Rivian wants me to buy the already configured ones.
-Rivian is now giving me until September 20th to buy my car or I will lose the initial price I locked in back in 2022 (or2021?).
-Despite not having a service center near my area (the closet one is Houston and I live in New Orleans) Rivian tells me that no matter what after September 20th my car will be more expensive as I lose my initial price.
I want to make note that a technician may come and try to solve any problems with the vehicle free of charge. If unable to be fixed service may not be guaranteed to be covered and I may need to cover the costs of transportation if Rivian deems necessary.
This has become a hard buy for me. I will likely cancel and purchase something else.
early in viewing the video but I would like to get the R3X once it comes out which I hope it does. This would be my first time going electric, would you do Rivian or Tesla as the first electric vehicle?
As a two time Tesla owner that has experienced unacceptable issues too, with massive depreciation as salt on my wounds, I have come to the conclusion that to avoid all these problems means buying a Toyota hybrid… the very company and type of car the EV world was clowning just a year ago.
Love the looks of all Rivian’s and very much looking forward to the new vehicle as it may be my first venture into the EV market?
They must lose so much money on every car they sell. Not only is it sold at a loss but the servicing - towing when the car bricks or sending a tech to your house for a fix must all add up. Wonder if the trucks at Amazon have the same issues? A real problem for commercial customers.
It's sad, they need all the help they can get to survive, and the Bezos link don't allow them to have Android Auto or Apple Car.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts, Ryan.
BTW, how much was Carmax offering for your R1T?
Rivian extended my delivery of R1S quad as an early reservation holder INDEFINITELY, where I wanted to just cancel. With the binding agreement and the state credit, i can purchase R1S quad for $625000. What do you think?
YES, BUT WITH ANOTHER $375,000 YOU COULD GET A MILLION DOLLAR CIRRUS .......THINK ABOUT IT !
I be never buying test car from new company for 100k!
How now people want some interesting between all old gas car buying this pilot test drive vehicle☹️
Will the new R2 have an optional D2 package available?
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Ive owned a model 3 so I'm not a EV hater. That said, what I hear you saying is don't buy a Rivian. A vehicle never makes sense if you can't drive it when you get in it. Otherwise, its a beautiful expensive paper weight.
Your headaches aren't the first I've heard about the Rivan. A coworker of mine has the R1S and he's had quite a few random glitches with his. I really like the look of it vs the model X.
I enjoyed the 3 years with my model 3 performance but it wasn't perfect (no car is) but I'm happily back in a normal ICE vehicle for a while. I'm a musician also and needed more space than the M3 had. On the flip side, the wife is now in an XC90 Volvo hybrid and we've enjoyed not dealing with gas with that vehicle. It gets about 35 miles of EV range and her daily commute is less than that. According to the trip computer, it's driven nearly 1400 miles since last fill up.
We considered the Q8 Etron too but ultimately decided to go hybrid. In the trips we've taken with it, it's nice not having to worry about finding a charger that may or may not work and realistically, when we did the math for charging in terms of how many miles per kW and the MPG her XC90 gets, the cost of fuel vs electricity wasn't that different and also just being able to get in the car and drive uninterrupted for 500+ miles regardless of how cold it is outside is nice.
whats was the depreciation?
It’s fair to call our efficiency and phantom drain. But come on. Compare that to the 30%-35% (maybe) for ICE. Ur still coming out significantly ahead going with any BEV over ICE on efficiency. It’s not remotely close.
Amazing how startups check so many boxes from the gate vs legacy auto
Sounds like typical gen 1 issues. Seems like yesterday Tesla was going through the same thing! I’m keeping my eye on Rivian! I’m feeling a major player will come in and take them over! These vehicles look a bit more plush than Tesla. Which I like!
I like Rivian. I don’t understand why they are building a new car when they are already losing money on every sale now? Are they profitable on a variable basis and just need to cover fixed overhead costs? Or what’s the deal. I’m cautious about buying a car from a manufacturer that could go under.
Electrify America is a bust. Our government gave a slap to VW to roll out a half-baked implementation so they could reimburse for Dieselgate. There was some movement to get VW to be held accountable for the dismal reliability of these charging stations, but alas, it has gone quiet. The only way is hoping you could cover this topic so it could drum up visibility.
Fantastic and objective review. Rivian seems like a company trying very hard to remain viable, and I’m pulling for them. Maybe the R2 and R3 will be their Tesla model 3 moment.
I have a new 2024 en route to me. I’m hoping it’s not a lemon. Excited
EVs still have some work to do. Once affordable vehicles with solid state batteries come that offer, extreme weather performance, long cycle life batteries like 500k, more power density, more performance, more safety, larger charging network, affordable replacement batteries, 3rd party mechanics, faster charging times and a significant reduction in weight to the vehicle, I really don't see why you anyone that can charge at home wouldn't want one.
You are quite correct....road tripping in any EV other than a Tesla is a nightmare. My sister owns a Cadillac Lyriq....did not have a great time from SD to Stockton and back. While we make the same RT with less than 40 minutes and two stops. Never waited for a charger, never charged for more than 25 minutes.
Would you change your mind if leasing and standard pack was available when you got it? There’s also a new service center in Eastvale. I recently did a demo drive there. I may lease a standard pack R1T. Like you I don’t need a truck and happy with our Tesla cars but there are times we need one. I was impressed with the demo drive and with NACS support coming and a closer service center, I can consider another EV brand other than Tesla
Vehicle battery issue-lost me at that-my MYP Tesla works very well
Im confused. What were the pros that outwieghed the cons? Cause you named a lot of cons. Personally just bought a new truck a couple years ago for 33k dollars. Ive had exactly 0 visits for service. 4 oil changes that took less time than you did charging. Its done every job ive asked it to do with no issues. It even has bluetooth for my phone music and electric windows so i don't even have to crank them. Im so lazy lol but the real icing on the cake is that it has cruise control!!!!!!!
Are the newer Rivian vehicles less buggy?
Good decision, although it is a very sexy truck with a lot of new features, ultimately a vehicle's reliability is the priority to most people.