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@@scmom65 I agree! The knuckleheads move out here then complain about what we love......cows, hay, loose dogs, chickens..... It drives me nuts when they show up to city council meetings and complain about the cows 🤦🤦🤦
IF YOU ARE RELOCATING to Salt Lake City, Utah... DON'T! Us lifelong residents don't even recognize our home anymore. The influx of out of staters is no longer sustainable. It's quite literally pushing out people who've lived here their whole lives. I have the utmost respect and love to my core for these mountains and canyons. They are my church. People with no personal connection to the surrounding wilderness move here and treat our natural wonders like a Walmart parking lot. Zero understanding of the basic ethics & code between locals AKA leave no trace. Treat our mountains with reverence & grace. Don't get me started on what all the newcomers has done to the housing situation for locals. Hell, even driving here is different now. We've got a bunch of newcomers that have main characters syndrome apparently. So yeah... if you're relocating, please don't be trendy. Start your own trend. Find a place that could use a boost in their economy & has potential for growth. All you're doing by coming here is putting stress on air quality, natural resources. Those of us who have been here for generations just want to preserve what made us stay for so long in the first place.
I love your passion! I share the same feeling of reverence and respect for the natural beauty of my home state as well as the gift that we've been given to have those majestic Wasatch mountains right on top of us.
@scottdsteele Thank you for your well tempered response. I have to say, it was a welcome surprise, considering the social climate these days. I saw the caption of your video, and immediately, my emotions reacted for me, I commenting with no intention of watching. Your reply changed my mind. I just started your video. Thanks for loving our mountains & understanding their importance. I think of them as gentle giants in a deep slumber all around us. Our monolithic protectors. One could say I've anthropomorphized them... just a bit.
Perfectly said Artemis, and unfortunately it is money that talks and until the money is placed towards efforts to preserve and defend nature and with zero alternative motive (of profiting), we are mercy to what is profitable and general over consumption. I love Utah and I love it's unworldly and breathtaking landscape from the mountains to the deserts to the Salt flats and everything in between. I look at those mountains each and every single day and to me, they are Utah, and they are all the mental health that I will ever need. I love that you appreciate this place as much as I do, and thank you!
If you think that I have influence to get people to move here, you're greatly inflating my position. I serve and help answer questions for those moving here. I do not and cannot get people to move here.
Pretty much the same everywhere lol I lived in Florida most of my life and people have been flooding that state the entire time, even more so since Covid.
@@scottdsteele More homes will only bring the prices down if we build more homes than the number of families and individuals that come in. Less homes would be necessary if fewer people came in. Right now we aren't even building enough to maintain the problem. It will continually get worse until we build double or triple per year what we build now, or reduce the inflow of people.
Amen!!! It doesn't feel like the home I once knew because of how many people have moved here. I completely understand what you mean. I miss all the open areas and the farmland. The traffic is IMMENSE compared to what it was before.
Yeah, the farmland and open spaces in and along the Wasatch Front are soon going to be gone and you'll have to stretch out beyond the Wasatch Front to find that.
As someone who has spent my whole life in salt lake county, dont move here. Utah is the new California and all the people that made Utah great are now priced out of residing here. Utah is full
I grew up on Mount Olympus (Olympus Cove) where we crossed the street and started our hike up 'The Z-Trail' . We would hike to a stream that had the best tasting water. Sixty years later I don't recognize the bright, shiny city I knew. The Salt Lake City zip code is ravished, busting, pricey, ruined, gentrified, judged, hopeless. Salt Lake City has lost its charm.
I completely understand your experience and your perspective. To others, Salt Lake City is just beginning to find it's charm. My office is @ Old Mill just south of Olympus Cove and it is a very desirable area and real estate prices there are reflective of that
@@scottdsteele That’s probably because they never knew the real Salt Lake. No more outdoor feel….clear up and down the Wasatch Front. It’s too bad that developers have taken over our government, I hope you will forgive me for saying that, but I got the word from my representative that it’s true, and she says there is nothing we can do about it. At least not at this point.
I am originally from Utah County, but I have been a Salt Lake County resident for the last thirty-six years now. This is quite a rosy video and sparkly picture you paint of the Wasatch Front. The truth is, though, the Wasatch Front has warts that people thinking of moving here need to know about, as well. First, we have a weather phenomenon that is exacerbated by our mountains and deep valleys called inversions, where colder air is trapped deep in the valleys by warmer air above. The longer inversions last, the worse the pollution levels in the trapped colder layer below become to where they can become dangerous for even very fit people to breathe. You will live in the lower inversion layer. We have run out of water for further development and the Great Salt Lake is drying up. Because of this things are going to get ugly: green lawns are going to have to become a thing of the past and dust from the exposed bottom of the lake are full of toxic heavy metals will be blown into your neighborhood. Breathe deeply. If you choose to live in a community near the Great Salt Lake or Utah Lake and the wetlands adjacent to them expect your neighborhood to be regularly sprayed, without your knowledge or permission, by mosquito abatement programs in your local areas. Wash your produce and breathe deeply.
If you watch my videos I talk regularly about all of the things that you mentioned sharing not only the good but also the bad while backing it up with facts and data.
I've lived in the Salt Lake Valley all my life. Started out in South Jordan when there were a few small neighborhoods near Bingham High School, surrounded by pastures and fields. As an adult I've lived in Taylorsville, right snack dab in the middle of the quadrants. It's convenient because we can quickly get to any freeway, Bangerter, Redwood Road, State Street, etc in a couple of minutes. We also have lots of shopping nearby and are 10 minutes away from 3 different Costcos and 2 Sam's Clubs, where we buy most of our food to cheaply feed our starving teenagers. Having traveled all over the western states, I will say that the infrastructure in the Wasatch Front is the very best. Our streets are laid out well, it's easy to navigate, and our roads are mostly well maintained. That being said, I can't wait until our youngest child graduates and my hubby retires from the FD, because we are out of here. It is waaaay too crowded here and they keep building high rise apartments all over the place, making the overcrowding worse. Also, Utah taxes retirement income, which is a deal breaker. I will miss the mountains but can always come for a visit.
Thanks for sharing Erika! I grew up in Taylorsville and yes, it's only getting more crowded. Let me know if there's anything that I can ever do for you and thanks again!
I miss the meadowlarks that used to sing in the valley, the open horse pastures that used to surround I-15, & the open feeling all-around. Lifelong Urahn here, & I Hate the urbanization of the entire county/valley/state. It's too crowded. People have ruined this place.
Agreed! Housing affordability across the country has worsened terribly and that's especially true in Utah. You have to advance in a career or start a business and make it successful in order to comfortably afford a home and a lifestyle that's desired
A lot of that land near Magna cannot be built in due to Hexcel, Rio Tinto/Kenecott, and the rocket building company. I grew up in Magna and LOVED it but it’s grown a lot and is a whole different experience now. Great people out there!!
I have read an article about the housing market nationwide recently and Utah is ranked #3 for the most expensive Real Estate in the country (after California and Hawaii). If you "do" decide to move to Utah, I recommend moving to the Ogden/Clearfield metro area since the housing market is cheaper than Salt Lake and Provo areas.
Yes, it is more affordable there. Thank you so much for sharing. To add context, what that article says is that we are the 3rd least affordable when factoring in the ratio between the median home price vs the median income. Overall, we are the 7th - 9th most expensive state for real estate depending on the data used.
Saint George does not have a lot of water. There shouldn't be more building there. Yeah its beautiful, but it sure is extremely hot. Salt Lake County doesn't need any more people or development. We get horrible pollution regularly as there is no where for it to go. It builds up quickly after it gets washed away by rain. It doesn't rain often enough, in my opinion. There are two refineries in North Salt Lake. Mountains block the pollution in. My lungs hurt when it happens. Bangerter will take several years to be extended and connected more south to the I-15. Right now, the area it connects to the I-15 and on I-15 is very heavily congested during rush hour. Daybreak is extremely expensive. It is also heavily conjested. It is a pretty area and the homes are beautiful. They are HOA controlled though. Not only do you pay top dollar for these beautiful homes, you have to pay HOA fees and have them control what you can do to your home and property. There was a builder that had the basements cracking. Not all builders there had that happen. I got blocked for making that comment on their site. This man wants to put a rosy spin on all of this. Jordan River ends up being a creek during the hotter parts of the year. Do not build near Utah Lake. The ground is unstable. One family in particular has their basement sinking and they can see a lot of daylight between their basement foundation and the house above them. It is beginning with their neighbors with their driveways for now. Research it.
Thanks for sharing! I agree with you on the inversion / pollution problem for sure. As for Bangerter Hwy connecting with I-15, that's been done for so many years, I'm not sure what you're saying there. I chose to be positive and share it because this place is amazing and while it certainly has its Cons as well (every single place does), I firmly believe that what you focus on expands so if all you see is the negative, that's all you'll find. I do however share all of the negatives as well on this channel if you watch my videos. Thanks for sharing!
@scottdsteele I am not a realtor and don't need to paint a rosy picture and not mention the concerns. I don't dwell on the negative and love where I live and the people around. I rarely meet anyone who is not kind and friendly. I have family in St. George and they have told me, and I have seen it reported that there is not a lot of water there. It is also extremely hot during the summer. It is so heavily congested in Utah. We all have health concerns when the inversions hit. Until it rains, there is no place for it to go. We do need to be aware not to build near Utah Lake. We do need to research so we get the right builder. I was warned never to use a certain builder when we moved to Utah 30 years ago, and that person has proven to be right. The traffic does back up a lot on I-15 back to 7200 W. during rush hour. Connecting Bangerter further south, I think, will alleviate that. I can honestly say that our representatives work hard to be on top of the expansion of freeways. It is difficult because it costs a lot of money. They plan, and each project gets its turn.
The main problem with this influx of people is the water supply. Utah is a desert and has a lot smaller water supply than most of the states, ie the eastern states. Because of that, cities are encouraging people (extremely) to do options like zeroscaping which is ruining the ecosystem which pioneers died to create in this once barren wasteland that no one wanted to touch. The more people that move in, the more zeroscaping will have to be done, the more our ecosystem will die, the more our lakes will dry up, and the hotter it will get here. Grass and trees absorb and other plant life absorb heat people.
Don't move to Utah. I have been here almost 40, and Utah is changing. Utah used to be great. We went camping over the weekend. We had a hard time even finding a campsite. I camp to enjoy the peace and quiet. It was constant ATV traffic on the forest service road from sunrise to well passed midnight. Utah is ruined.
This is the BEST explanation video by a realtor I have ever watched, this is exactly what I wish was available for every area before contemplating a move! A well explained map, plenty of back ground on the neighborhoods, costs, traffic and travel explanations, and amenities. Great job!
People move here to escape whatever it is they left behind. Except they bring a piece of that somewhere with them in terms of mental/cultural baggage. The character of this place is changing quickly. It's the usual story. People find a better, kinder place to live. They move there. Then it becomes an average place to live. Then it becomes a nasty place to live. And so it goes, round and round.
That is where you are wrong. The scarcity mindset of "not in my back yard" and "stay out of Utah" are not doing any good are they? Is that working for you? Yes, I can understand someone else's perspective and viewpoint and still share a differing opinion.
Awesome video, Thanks! Have a question for you. Are there many construction jobs in Utah? Which suburb is closer to where new construction projects are located. Im thinking to buy a propery in utah, somewhere 20 to 40 miles from main construction boom place. Your help will be appreciated
Of course! We build more here than any other state... construction jobs are everywhere near the metro areas. You couldn't possibly pick a spot that doesn't work for finding a construction job!
Native Utahn here. Mt. Pleasant (Sanpete County) is my hometown which is such a great place to live and so beautiful right at the base of the Manti Lasal Mountain range. I now live in Echo (Summit County) and work at the Park City hospital. This county is growing so fast! I wish it would just stop but theres major developing everywhere you look here!
Yeah, it's growing up there like crazy... and that's not going to slow down. I sold a cabin to a client in Mt. Pleasant and that sunset view in the evening is unbelievable! Beautiful and underrated place for sure!
I lived in Ephraim for 8 years and I don't believe how fast its grown since we left. Its very sad that the sweet quiet small towns are losing that attribute.
Lived in Magna for the last 25 years. Not sure how you consider my town "less desirable community". When everyday more and more home, apartments are built here. There is so much construction going on here the town doesn't even look like it did just 7 years ago. I think what you meant to say is this area is more blue collar and you wont see as many tesla cars in the neighborhoods like you do in daybreak. Magna has been working class since it was settled, that hasnt changed and proably wont change anytime soon. I am ok with that. Alot of us here are proud of our town it has a long history. Old main street is full of that classic architecture. Hey, Hollywood sure likes to film here.
You drive west on Main Street -- every other building is a church, or a pub!🙃 Crime is up. Several murders reported the last few years. Sidewalks are the most awful I've ever seen in any city in Salt Lake County, but they have a nice big park & golf course, with a new playground. Don't live there if you homeschool. Nothing is happening there -- you have to drive your kids everywhere else in the county to do anything. Can't push a baby stroller -- you have to walk on the street & the streets are really narrow. The local tattoo shop hosts a Halloween Parade for the kids in July! Friendly town. You might like it if you want to live in a good sized city near, but not in the thick of the Salt Lake area. The Southwest end of the county often has boil alerts. Check the geology. It is quite common for new houses to be falling in sink holes, or mudslides because of the flooding and poor decisions by the builders. Buy a older house, but best not to move there at all. Way too many move-ins. Traffic, pollution & water restrictions keep getting worse.
I lived in Utah from 1988-2011, save a couple of years in the mid 90s. Basically, high school and Undergrad. Moved in 2001 and have never moved back. I dont plan to. I still have siblings down there, and Im willing to make that trip 1-2 times a year, but outside of that, Im good. Im good.
As a lifelong resident of SLC, If you're considering moving to Utah County, I'm sorry, it's horrible out there. And while Daybreak is unique, it's build on the old Kennecott dumping ground. Of course you'll be reminded of this every time you look outside and see the destroyed mountain that is Kennecott.
And he didn't mention the pollution in Daybreak that demands tap water be imported from other parts of the valley as well as making gardens impossible to grow.
Herriman is nice, but it’s an extra 15-20 minutes away from downtown. Daybreak is expensive and congested in many places. From what I’ve seen, the West side of West Jordan is more affordable and is far less congested.
Really good info. Been here a few years now and the growth is just crazy. Where do you foresee opportunities for small multifamily properties? Cashflow properties seem nonexistent east of I-15.
Cash flowing investment property if you're buying now is nearly non existent except for larger multi family projects. Here, the play for an investor is a long term buy & hold strategy for that beautiful appreciation
A little disappointed to not hear anything about Commuter rail, light rail, BRT and regional bus. There are great areas where you can live car free or car light. Harvard-Yale and sugar house are excellent places to ditch the car. Driving sucks, and many families want to avoid it as much as possible.
@@erikaw5669 Yeah, it's a highly desired area with a lot of destinations. That's why the streetcar, buses and bikes are so popular there. It's probably one of the best neighborhoods in the state.
I live in Murray, between the northeast and southeast quadrant. When the valley fills up, I am selling, cashing in, and moving out to rural Utah. I hope whoever moves in enjoys the Salt Lake Valley as much as I have.
SLC Uber driver here. The homes in the Avenues are pretty, but ancient in SLC terms. But more importantly, driving around up in there is dangerous as all of the N/S roads are on a grade, and barely wide enough for 2 cars to pass by each other. And that with people treating every intersection as if any signage is no more than a suggestion. Mountain View Highway is horribly designed with high speeds and widely spaced intersections. People have a tendency to build up speed and then blow through red lights because the road feels like a freeway when it isn't. There are almost zero overpasses on that road as of yet. That said, Traffic congestion is on the rise across the greater SLC metro area, (Ogden to Draper.) And property values are skyrocketing in the area in a bad way.
Thanks for sharing! Mountain View is wonderfully designed, but what you're driving on now is not yet built as what it will become. The over passes will come, the space is ample and the treacherous road that it may feel like now will be long gone. Give it time. This is how these interstate highways and major infrastructure have to be implemented in phases
They air quality needs to be addressed HERE! It is often the worst in the nation. I believe quite a few of my relatives died of exposure over the years. I can not image how bad it is going to be in just a few years, with all the underplanned growth in the valley. :( I would not want my children to grow up in this soup.
@@scottdsteele it's bad a lot of the time for no other reason than traffic. There are summer days that are hot and yucky. They put out notices to "work from home" or "carpool." It's not just the winter!
Anywhere with lots of Trucking infrastructure? I’m from North Dakota and want to move somewhere warmer that still has all seasons. Utah is in my short list of potential states but the cost of housing is a major concern. Things are getting bad when a 6 figure income can’t cover housing prices within the 50/30/20 rule.
I agree with you for sure with cost of living and housing. As for trucking, that industry is big here given our geographic location in the middle of the west. Salt Lake City is the center (specifically the industrial area to the west of SLC) of the industry and SLC is known as the "crossroads of the west" as a central hub between Mexico and Canada as well as connections through Las Vegas to Southern California as well as going straight west to San Francisco.
Great question! PROS: - Hot isn't as Hot - Cold isn't as Cold - Amazing summer nights in Utah - Very few bugs compared to most states CONS: - Dry skin - Dry Hair - Dry throat, etc that can make it worse when you're sick Solution: - upgraded skin care & hair care routines & products - humidifier for use when sick - Lotion / hand moisturizer
I live in Tooele. It takes 45 minutes to get to the University of Utah on a good weather, no I-80 accidents day. Daybreak, super high property taxes. My son bought on the Herriman side of the road that divides the cities because of the taxes. The NE quarter is as blue as blue can be. The SE is getting there too.
Property taxes in Daybreak (84009) are slightly lower than in Tooele. There are online tools from the state where you can look this up and enter zip codes. This is based on the same price of a home. If you buy a more expensive home, you'll pay more in taxes, not a higher rate. Also, Herriman and Daybreak have identical property tax rates of 0.640%
Utah lake is a lake, not a reservoir and due to its location at the bottom of a basin in Utah County, it's sort of like a giant shallow bathtub. It used to be polluted but it's not anymore and the overall water quality is good. However, it's what is called a hypereutrophic lake meaning it's very high in minerals as well as nutrients like nitrogen and phosphorus so you wouldn't want to eat fish from this lake. It's very shallow with a muddy lake bed which gives it a less than desirable color and it also can be greatly affected by seasonal algae blooms. Yes you can boat on it and ski (sometimes) but most people go to one of our many reservoirs instead.
@@scottdsteele thanks a lot for the details i appreciate it. I love ski season and boating so SLC is good for my relocation. But i wanna find rural property.
I absolutely LOVE where I live in rural Utah. Very small town in the desert. Quiet, peaceful, not a ton of traffic. Not much has changed from when I was little. We moved to Utah county when I was 7, but we still spent a lot of time in my hometown. My husband and I are buying a place 30 minutes away from where I grew up. I wouldn’t trade my house out here for anywhere. It’s not as convenient as living near big grocery stores but we have our own small business pool here and that’s enough for us. We are still close enough to commute back to Utah county when we need to. Our towns in Utah have gotten way too big and housing way too expensive. I’m grateful to have found our home after 6 years of being homeless. We couldn’t afford living costs up north.
@@scottdsteele I’d rather not say. It’s a town that many people don’t know of or even know it exists. It was almost a ghost town but since we moved here, there has been quite a lot more people moving in here as well lately but not too many.
@@scottdsteele I grew up in price. I’m closer to green river. We picked up our fixer upper for 35,000. It had been vacant for 15 years. We have an acre of property too. Watching the deer every night is so peaceful
We love living in Cottonwood Heights for many years. But I am not sure about the quality of air and the shortage of water these days. Anyway thank you for the very insightful video.
The problem with the Wasatch front is the "corridor" affect combined with all the "small" cities crammed next to each other. It makes it so there is no to little room for expansion/growth of those cities. So these small cities need tax income, right. Well, be prepared for those small cities to look for revenue elsewhere, like by ticketing the populace to make up for no growth. It is crappy and it happens all along the Wasatch front. This guy wants to sell you a house in SLC, he don't care if you find you local police ticketing you as much as possible. There have been local news reports on this very issue... I am sure this happens in other "corridor" settlements as well, I advise you look for places with more possiblity to grow, like southern utah, its gorgeous there. Or the far north "Brigham city area", alas there's not alot of "work" up there, and the morning commute to/from SLC is packed. Oh and there is the wanning influence of the Mormon Church. Utah is there home state after all...
Thanks for the comment! How do you feel like you know what "I don't care" about? I'm genuinely interested because those who have ever spoken with me or better yet, actually know me, would laugh at that statement.
@@scottdsteele I don't truely know your feelings, I do hope your friends are correct. Sorry for the assumption. I do know real estate agents have a monetary motivation to hide any negatives about buying houses in areas they're trying to sell them in. You do touch upon some of the issues with SLC area living. So I hope you are not like that. The Great Salt Lake area is nice, best snow on earth, it can smell out west some days, and those gorgeous mountians we have do trap the smog in far to often. So pardon my diskile of more people moving here, especially since all I see is appartments going up (even seen the start of "tent cities" in SLC under the freeway while working on our new airport) and fewer and fewer single family housing projects. I am sorry for any personal slight against you, it is my frustration over a system trying to cram more and more people into a smaller and smaller area.
I moved here 4 weeks ago from Oklahoma city with a construction company from Denver to build a facility at the University. The pay in SLC is really good. But finding an affordable rental is very difficult. Almost every add on social media is a scam. What area could I find a basic I person rental so I can still send $ money to my family. Where do regular working people live that isn't 2k a month?
Ogden is a hack. Lived in SL county most of my life, bought a house in Ogden for about 60/70k less than comps in Salt Lake. I can walk to local restaurants and coffee shops. Old world tree growth. In the canyon in 5 minutes. Yes, some lower income residents & different crime than newer developed areas. Haven't had personal problems, nor have my neighbors. Lots of pockets of young professionals renovating older homes here, myself included. Almost want to gatekeep, but its a great community that is continually getting better. The old stereotypes are very outdated.
You nailed it with this comment and you're 100% correct. In fact, I'm posting a video this weekend showing some new homes just west of Ogden and it's awesome up here.
Wow, Scott. Awesome video, excellent content, informative and educational! Loved it! To answer your question, my wife and I just moved here from Arizona, Buckeye, and Lake Havasu. By the way, what's with all the haters 🤔 maybe they are the one's that should head over to New Jersey, I'm sure they'll fit right in! Just saying 😊
Thanks! That's awesome. The haters come out when I create a video that attracts negativity and I have 2 that have done that including this video. It's draining
Hi Gustavo!? I'd love to show you precisely what's happening both in your neighborhood in Lindon as well as in St. George. Reach out to me and let's meet up on person or on a call.
You have to be careful about complaining about the noise near the air force base. People will insult you and tell you to deal with it. So, if you don't like jets or their noise. Don't come to Layton. I like to mention it just because i love to get them started. lol
@@scottdsteele I moved here 15 years ago to marry my lovely wife. I also moved my family here shortly after. They all love it here and I'm currently helping the rest of my family to come here. :)
After living and raising our family in Taylorville, we retired and moved to a small rural town in central utah with a population of 1500. So, glad we moved when we did. Occasionally we have to go to the city and it's unbelievable how crowded it is. It also smells bad. The infrastructure can't handle the traffic.
Thanks for sharing! Change is difficult and the infrastructure continues to evolve and grow along with it and is keeping up nicely in some areas and lagging in others. The infrastructure does work and for almost everyone who is moving here from elsewhere laugh a little when they hear of our terrible traffic and then witness how easy it is compared to where they come from. It's all perspective and for those of us who have lived in Utah out entire lives, it can feel much more difficult.
Most places are safe and far safer than most everywhere they people are moving from. To answer your 2nd question, the spots that are really popping off right now with more affordable single family homes and townhomes is northern Utah county in Lehi, Saratoga Springs and especially Eagle Mountain as well as southern z Utah County in and around Spanish Fork, as well as Tooele County (just west of Salt Lake County) as well as up north around Syracuse
It's a very very vocal minority of people who choose to share negativety. You'll find this everywhere you go. I just spoke to neighbors tonight and asked these very questions and people have a wonderful experience moving here. Don't let the few bad apples ruin it for you.
You talked about all of the bottle necks on the freeways, but you didn't talk about any of the transit options. Frontrunner is fairly reliable and is double tracking to bring more trains.
Yes he did! However, no politician or anyone has any power to control where free Americans choose to move to, so it was more of a political play to pander to his constituents than anything else. It is absolutely reality that we need to build more homes for Utahns regardless of who is moving here and I love your Utah pride!
I live across the street from Liberty park which is part of SLC metro area. What I love about Utah is how small the city is. I don't have to get on a freeway, I can just take 700 S all the way to Cottonwood Heights When he shows you the older homes? That's where I live. In a 1987 Victorian home in a neighborhood called Liberty or Liberty Wells. I wouldn't come here to live in the suburbs. It all looks the same.
@@scottdsteele would you recommend purchasing chunks of land in like Nephi, or somewhere further south that you think will eventually develop like Lehi or AF? I want to sit on valuable assets in about 20 years. What’s your opinion?
Nate, if you want a non income generating property to park money for 20 years, you'd be incredibly wise to invest in anything all of the way down to Nephi. Also, you'll likely see the best return where the median priced homes will be developed over the next 2 decades and all of the population forecasts point directly to southern Utah County, Eagle Mountain and here's a really really good one.... Tooele County. Tooele County is going to explode over the next 2 decades due to its proximity to SLC.
I used to ride my bike along the Jordan River parkway for years. The North end is not what it used to be, and I don't really feel comfortable riding on it anymore.
Do not move into San Pete County. I'm from Utah and LDS, and I have been treated like I'm a nothing. Been here 6 years and I have been told things like "I ruined their work family when I moved here". (I'm very talented in the design and floral industry so I got a job at the one and only local floral shop. After 4 years of busting my butt, that's what I was told. I make $12 and an hour with a degree. My daughter was told to "go back to where she came from." Got a "Dog at Large" ticket when I was playing ball with our dog on my own front yard. Never left the dogs' site, yet when I asked about a dog park so that new people could meet others, I was told, "Lady, the whole town is a dog park." It's the worst
Thats real crappy.... I just don't understand some areas/wards and how some have the most supportive and nice people while others are the pits. I have experienced both in my life. I hope that either you can move to a better area or those who are around you either change for the better or move out so better neighbors can move in.
When you come across people that don't lift you up, just move on and keep looking, you'll find good people. They are everywhere and if we focus on linking up with the good ones rather than focusing on the bad ones, you'll find what you are looking for
I've lived in Utah my whole life. There's a lot of benefits. I currently live in Eagle Mountain and have lived here for 5 years. I can attest to the traffic situation. It's genuinely horrible. I've spend lots of time driving in Los Angeles and Eagle Mountain, Saratoga Springs, and Herriman are the only places in the state that rival the horrific traffic in LA. The distances traveled generally aren't as far so it's not as bad as LA, but any given intersection during rush hour is just totally gridlocked. It's gotten way worse in the last couple of years. I do think the new road construction will do a lot for the traffic situation, but that's still a long way out. I think building permits need to be slowed down to allow for infrastructure to catch up because in a couple years it will genuinely be unlivable for anyone who has to commute to work.
Thanks for sharing! The funding for the infrastructure and the construction itself is there and underway now. In 3-5 years it will be massively improved
I am living in Austin, Texas now. I have emailed several area chamber of commerces of Salt Lake City, Provo, Murray and Lehi yesterday. Not one chamber reponded to me as of today. I am beginning to think that a lot of cities really don't want any more newcomers moving to the Salt Lake City area.
Utah is amazing, most people across the country have no idea how good it is. Salt Lake is wonderful and, despite all the comments about "Dont move here," the people are friendly and most neighborhoods are full of good people. But it is growing and everyone needs to understand that it is definitely going to grow more, whether people want that or not. There is no stopping it. So if you are coming to Utah, WELCOME. Look around and find a place that suits you. But expect more growth, always. Also, be aware that the Winter Olympics is coming, again, in about 10 years and lots of things will be changed to get ready for it. I grew up in the middle of Downtown and have lived all over Salt Lake, in all 4 quadrants that he has mentioned. Depending on what you want, there are good places everywhere. NW, including West Valley City and Magna are definitely more blue collar, but I even lived in West Valley for 15 years and loved it. I have great access to everything because I currently live between Bangerter Highway and Mountain View Corridor Freeway, on the border between Riverton and Herriman, about 1 mile south of Daybreak, and half a mile north of the new Mountain View Village, and I think some amazing things are happening. But, yeah, growth 😐.
Not sure I understood you: Is a major league baseball stadium planned for the Power District or the Daybreak District? Or both? Are those two areas in competition for it? Also, if a hockey stadium is built, where will it likely be?
Sorry for that confusion Steven! The AAA Salt Lake Bees stadium is currently being built right now in Daybreak and will be completed next year. A proposed Major League Baseball stadium has been given the green light in terms of location, private funding in The Larry H Miller Group, public money through HB562 to help fund the development. This will be in the Power district right in between downtown SLC and the airport. The Hockey team is now officially coming. Ryan Smith bought the team and it is starting this fall and they'll be playing in the Delta center until they get construction going on a new 3 block sports and entertainment district that will include a remodeled Delta center where the NHL team will share the same arena as the Utah Jazz
The public money? The publicaly funded 1 billion in tax dollars going straight into the Ryan Smith's pocket. A billionaire's pocket. We are giving a billionaire a billion dollars so he can make billions more, with tax breaks, while increasing the sales tax .5 percent to 8.5 percent within the Salt Lake City boundaries only, up to 8.5%. All of Utah will be going to entertainment that we are being forced to pay for while the mayor is hiking up her salary in a huge tax grab from 160K a year to 202K a year. 26 percent along with the city council going from 33K to 53K for part time work. The state is a corruption machine now heavily affecting Salt Lake City.
It's so hard to see public money (our money) being used and I completely understand and agree with your frustration! Everyone should read the actual bill that has passed to partner with the Miller Group for the baseball stadium. The funding does not come from our tax payer dollars, but instead is done through bonds tied to hotel taxes so that essentially visitors are helping to pay the majority of that 900 million. Then, the Miller Group is going to put up 3.5 billion and together they will create this new area full of business and residential units that will bring a massive increase in property and sales taxes to the State of Utah. The state is investing 1B (of mostly visitors $) to then create an ongoing stream of drastically increased cash from it's use along with owning the stadium. As for the NHL / NBA Arena (Delta Center) Development plan involving 3 city blocks to build a new sports and entertainment district, that .5% increase in sales tax is in Salt Lake City, not state wide and that added revenue alone will create 1Billiion in addition to the added revenue by the increased spending in that district by those attending games. Let me know if this is a good video for me to produce as well!
The church does not run the state on paper, but considering how deeply rooted it is in the people and the culture, you will see regulations and policies that are influenced by the church and their history. The scales are tipping away from the Mormon population and the liquor laws are slowly changing, but the culture is still present. It's a bit of a culture shock for those not used to it. More apparent in Utah County around Provo.
You are spot on! The values, beliefs and traditions of those who are members do influence for sure since they are the majority who hold office. I do also believe that it is those very values that built this state into what it is and hope that those who are coming will add to the diversity and the culture, which I've loved seeing over these recent years
Let's hope we gain a stronger hold on the Christian values which have made this state great. SLC is a great warning to us to stop driving down the decency and morals of the standards which are necessary to make and keep a great civilization. What is being pumped out from the left mentally ill, is sad and extremely damaging; dangerous to themselves and all around them.
I lived here for 37 years. i love this valley and have lived in West Valley Salt Lake Kearns magna. i currently live in South Jordan, buy I 15, and i must say it is much better than anywhere else in the valley
I know it's been mentioned before that renting right now can be cheaper in some cases compared to purchasing a home. How does the rental market and properties compare in the SLC metro area?
Great question! Right now... it is cheaper to rent single family homes than it is to buy and that spread is greater now than it's been in 20 years. This will certainly change in the coming months and years as interest rates relax and the markets balance out again.
Watching this as ssomeone from Uintah going to college at the U. It's a very nice city, and I like seeing the growth. However, construction is such a pain to get through.
Excellent!! Great description of area. We bought two years ago just west of I-15 in Lehi. Easy two minute access to the highway. The best information to provide is not how far but rather how long is the commute to get to I-15 during rush hours.
I live in academy Park, West valley. I've lived in Utah all my life and we were always east side dwellers. I told my husband I would never live past 1300 East. In 2020 we bought a home in West valley City. I hate West valley, however I LOVE academy Park area. Beautiful neighborhood, neighbors, quiet. We've never had any issues with theft or crime in our neighborhood. However, if I had the opportunity to move back to the East side, I would.
utah doesn't want prople to keep moving in. Utah is a cold desert. Spring breaks after memorial day. Logan has really bad air...inversions full of Mormons, Pay is low and houses are high. Utah lake is highly polluted.
Yes, Utah is a high elevation cold desert. Spring in Utah absolutely is bi-polar most years. Logan, surprisingly, has worse air than SLC oftentimes. Full of Mormons? What's your point here? If you don't like that there are "mormons" here, you're welcome to leave where you won't have to rub shoulders with them. Regardless, that's a pretty bigoted thing to say and that's something that I can't imagine anybody wants more of. Wages are low here (23rd in the nation) especially as a ratio to housing costs, but more people here create their own businesses than most states rather than rely on wage income. Utah lake used to be very polluted, and still is with respect to high levels of mineral Salt and Phosphorus.
They foolishly want to build manmade islands in Utah Lake, but ignore that it's the home of the endangered June Sucker. Plus, it would look ugly, likely increase pollution in the lake (think additional oil runoff from leaky cars in the middle of the lake), & ruin the whole feel of its State Park status. Morons!!!
That winter weather creates what is called an inversion and we typically see about 14-17 days of it per year. The government is NOT run by the LDS church despite that being something that many people seem to like to say. Lastly, yes, Utah is a conservative state and is precisely why many are moving here and this is happening all over the country.
Dude I live in Utah and I'm sorry we have way more inversion than that and the government is definitely run by the Mormon Church absolutely no question
Lol as someone who is intimately familiar with Utah government, you are obviously not from here. The LDS do not run the government. And Utah is conservative compared to Oregon and California, but not nearly as much as most of the south. The state is very centrist.
I'm using data, not my feelings about both the inversions as well as the government. Anyone can look these things up as well. There is literally absolutely nothing to even remotely prove or show that the LDS church runs the government here. The Church is politically neutral and only becomes involved in advocating it's interest when there is a moral issue at stake. How do they do so? Influence, for sure, just like any other organization and because a very large part of the population here belongs to this faith and shares its values, it is also represented in the character and makeup of the political bodies here. There is of course, opposition in all things... and that is actually a good thing. Every person or organization can have a voice and of course that voice is magnified by the extent of it's influence based on its size. About 80% of lawmakers in the state identify as members of the faith, and about 40% of Utahn's identify as members of the faith. A good question to ask is why is that? If people that have differing views, they have the opportunity to run for elected positions just the same. The narrative that the Church runs the government is completely false and is simply regurgitation of ignorance that gets recycled over and over again.
@@scottdsteele Most of the areas you're talking about. The counties away from Salt Lake, Davis, Summit and Utah County you can live there for less than 6 figures.
I believe that it will continue to get worse... until we actually tackle the problem and that is our supply. We just don't build enough homes and we haven't since 2008 with the only exception being the crazy hot pandemic market where builders ramped up production and that gap finally started to shrink, but now it's doing the opposite again.
Who remembers when you where in the middle of the valley. You could go anywhere in 15 minutes or less? When the Doyle family operated Brighton and it was 5 bucks! Keg party's at lark sand dunes ! Who's old enuf to remember what daybreak use to be? In case your not here goes. Daybreak is literally built atop a caustic landfill. Harper excavation was brought in to remove the top 36 inches of that retired caustic landfill prior to building that community. I personally as a local recommend staying where your at and get involved in fixing what's causing you to move. 🍻
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Thank you for not mentioning the top rated US / Utah City in the greater SLC area where I live 😎!
Utah’s ful and we’re really rude. Look elsewhere, there’s WAY better places to move.
Please don't mention the small country towns. Most country folks move to the country for a reason! We don't need to advertise them.
@@scmom65 I agree! The knuckleheads move out here then complain about what we love......cows, hay, loose dogs, chickens.....
It drives me nuts when they show up to city council meetings and complain about the cows 🤦🤦🤦
We live are looking to rent a home in Utah County for a couple years to buy, until the market changes a bit. Do help find rental homes?
IF YOU ARE RELOCATING to Salt Lake City, Utah... DON'T!
Us lifelong residents don't even recognize our home anymore. The influx of out of staters is no longer sustainable. It's quite literally pushing out people who've lived here their whole lives.
I have the utmost respect and love to my core for these mountains and canyons. They are my church. People with no personal connection to the surrounding wilderness move here and treat our natural wonders like a Walmart parking lot. Zero understanding of the basic ethics & code between locals AKA leave no trace. Treat our mountains with reverence & grace.
Don't get me started on what all the newcomers has done to the housing situation for locals.
Hell, even driving here is different now. We've got a bunch of newcomers that have main characters syndrome apparently.
So yeah... if you're relocating, please don't be trendy. Start your own trend. Find a place that could use a boost in their economy & has potential for growth.
All you're doing by coming here is putting stress on air quality, natural resources. Those of us who have been here for generations just want to preserve what made us stay for so long in the first place.
I love your passion! I share the same feeling of reverence and respect for the natural beauty of my home state as well as the gift that we've been given to have those majestic Wasatch mountains right on top of us.
@scottdsteele Thank you for your well tempered response. I have to say, it was a welcome surprise, considering the social climate these days. I saw the caption of your video, and immediately, my emotions reacted for me, I commenting with no intention of watching. Your reply changed my mind.
I just started your video.
Thanks for loving our mountains & understanding their importance. I think of them as gentle giants in a deep slumber all around us. Our monolithic protectors. One could say I've anthropomorphized them... just a bit.
@@artemis2666Well said. The last four years have been an absolute drain on our state.
Perfectly said Artemis, and unfortunately it is money that talks and until the money is placed towards efforts to preserve and defend nature and with zero alternative motive (of profiting), we are mercy to what is profitable and general over consumption. I love Utah and I love it's unworldly and breathtaking landscape from the mountains to the deserts to the Salt flats and everything in between. I look at those mountains each and every single day and to me, they are Utah, and they are all the mental health that I will ever need. I love that you appreciate this place as much as I do, and thank you!
I would love to hear anyone's ideas for better managing our inevitable growth. Please share, and thank you for the comment!
States full.
I get it Carlos!
Absolutely
Yes. Don't move here. It sucks!
I hear you
To the brim...
Whyd you have to give anyone the idea of moving here?
I know... I'm sorry!
$$$$ of course. 🙄
If you think that I have influence to get people to move here, you're greatly inflating my position. I serve and help answer questions for those moving here. I do not and cannot get people to move here.
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The freeways here are a walk in the park compared to most major cities
STOP COMING HERE ITS TOO PACKED
I sense that many people do not want more people moving here and I understand that 100%
Facts
well this makes me want to move my entire family here.....oh wait.... i already did. :)
Pretty much the same everywhere lol I lived in Florida most of my life and people have been flooding that state the entire time, even more so since Covid.
It's happening throughout states like Florida, Texas, Nevada, Arizona, Utah, Idaho, and others
Roads on Sunday used to be empty now they Aren’t
True
Utah isn't only for Mormons.
Bingo!
Still no public transportation available on Sundays?
There is, absolutely
STOP MOVING TO UTAH, IT IS ALREADY TOO EXPENSIVE TO LIVE HERE!
We need more homes here or it is only going to get much more expensive
@@scottdsteele More homes will only bring the prices down if we build more homes than the number of families and individuals that come in. Less homes would be necessary if fewer people came in. Right now we aren't even building enough to maintain the problem. It will continually get worse until we build double or triple per year what we build now, or reduce the inflow of people.
You're exactly right!
Population has become unbearable. I was born and raised here and I miss seeing farm property and open land. It’s gross.
I totally understand
Amen!!! It doesn't feel like the home I once knew because of how many people have moved here. I completely understand what you mean. I miss all the open areas and the farmland. The traffic is IMMENSE compared to what it was before.
Yeah, the farmland and open spaces in and along the Wasatch Front are soon going to be gone and you'll have to stretch out beyond the Wasatch Front to find that.
yep, its turned into just one big city.
It's only going to continue
I hear California is nice.. go there..
California is so beautiful! ... but a nice place to live? That's a big question mark.
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Yeah if you guys think Utah is overpopulate, visit Cali and see how crazy it is over there
People that move here from most places laugh about how locals complain of traffic and too many people
@@scottdsteele If money and family were of no consideration, places like Carmel, Santa Cruz, Santa Barbara, & La Jolla might even compete with Utah.
As someone who has spent my whole life in salt lake county, dont move here. Utah is the new California and all the people that made Utah great are now priced out of residing here. Utah is full
I understand this sentiment
Wow 😢same problem here in Las Vegas NV it’s turned into California.
The Intermountain west and the sunbelt are growing faster than anywhere in the nation and it's still growing.
Ok sheriff
I grew up on Mount Olympus (Olympus Cove) where we crossed the street and started our hike up 'The Z-Trail' . We would hike to a stream that had the best tasting water. Sixty years later I don't recognize the bright, shiny city I knew. The Salt Lake City zip code is ravished, busting, pricey, ruined, gentrified, judged, hopeless. Salt Lake City has lost its charm.
I completely understand your experience and your perspective. To others, Salt Lake City is just beginning to find it's charm. My office is @ Old Mill just south of Olympus Cove and it is a very desirable area and real estate prices there are reflective of that
@@scottdsteele That’s probably because they never knew the real Salt Lake. No more outdoor feel….clear up and down the Wasatch Front. It’s too bad that developers have taken over our government, I hope you will forgive me for saying that, but I got the word from my representative that it’s true, and she says there is nothing we can do about it. At least not at this point.
I totally understand where you're coming from Katherine!
The whole area feels boxed in now by buildings. It sucks. Urbanization has ruined the area!
I get it
I am originally from Utah County, but I have been a Salt Lake County resident for the last thirty-six years now. This is quite a rosy video and sparkly picture you paint of the Wasatch Front. The truth is, though, the Wasatch Front has warts that people thinking of moving here need to know about, as well. First, we have a weather phenomenon that is exacerbated by our mountains and deep valleys called inversions, where colder air is trapped deep in the valleys by warmer air above. The longer inversions last, the worse the pollution levels in the trapped colder layer below become to where they can become dangerous for even very fit people to breathe. You will live in the lower inversion layer. We have run out of water for further development and the Great Salt Lake is drying up. Because of this things are going to get ugly: green lawns are going to have to become a thing of the past and dust from the exposed bottom of the lake are full of toxic heavy metals will be blown into your neighborhood. Breathe deeply. If you choose to live in a community near the Great Salt Lake or Utah Lake and the wetlands adjacent to them expect your neighborhood to be regularly sprayed, without your knowledge or permission, by mosquito abatement programs in your local areas. Wash your produce and breathe deeply.
If you watch my videos I talk regularly about all of the things that you mentioned sharing not only the good but also the bad while backing it up with facts and data.
I've lived in the Salt Lake Valley all my life. Started out in South Jordan when there were a few small neighborhoods near Bingham High School, surrounded by pastures and fields. As an adult I've lived in Taylorsville, right snack dab in the middle of the quadrants. It's convenient because we can quickly get to any freeway, Bangerter, Redwood Road, State Street, etc in a couple of minutes. We also have lots of shopping nearby and are 10 minutes away from 3 different Costcos and 2 Sam's Clubs, where we buy most of our food to cheaply feed our starving teenagers. Having traveled all over the western states, I will say that the infrastructure in the Wasatch Front is the very best. Our streets are laid out well, it's easy to navigate, and our roads are mostly well maintained.
That being said, I can't wait until our youngest child graduates and my hubby retires from the FD, because we are out of here. It is waaaay too crowded here and they keep building high rise apartments all over the place, making the overcrowding worse. Also, Utah taxes retirement income, which is a deal breaker. I will miss the mountains but can always come for a visit.
Thanks for sharing Erika! I grew up in Taylorsville and yes, it's only getting more crowded. Let me know if there's anything that I can ever do for you and thanks again!
I miss the meadowlarks that used to sing in the valley, the open horse pastures that used to surround I-15, & the open feeling all-around. Lifelong Urahn here, & I Hate the urbanization of the entire county/valley/state. It's too crowded. People have ruined this place.
I understand and it's going to continue to grow as well
@@scottdsteele Thank you fit warning people….they do need to know!! Aren’t there other ways to do real estate? I say plenty!!
What do you mean?
No jobs, too many people, expensive - Don't move to Utah!!!
No jobs? Utah is ranked #3 for economy, number 8 for job growth and it's ranked #1 overall. There are jobs here.
Sorry let me correct his comment. No jobs paying a living wage unless you have a specialized degree. @@scottdsteele
Agreed! Housing affordability across the country has worsened terribly and that's especially true in Utah. You have to advance in a career or start a business and make it successful in order to comfortably afford a home and a lifestyle that's desired
I’m from Utah. Please don’t move here. It’s a great place to visit, but then go home to your state and live there. Love ya’ though. ❤
I get it!
A lot of that land near Magna cannot be built in due to Hexcel, Rio Tinto/Kenecott, and the rocket building company. I grew up in Magna and LOVED it but it’s grown a lot and is a whole different experience now. Great people out there!!
That's awesome! Yes, there's so much lame out there belonging to Northrop Grumman and Magna is growing rapidly.
I have read an article about the housing market nationwide recently and Utah is ranked #3 for the most expensive Real Estate in the country (after California and Hawaii). If you "do" decide to move to Utah, I recommend moving to the Ogden/Clearfield metro area since the housing market is cheaper than Salt Lake and Provo areas.
Yes, it is more affordable there. Thank you so much for sharing. To add context, what that article says is that we are the 3rd least affordable when factoring in the ratio between the median home price vs the median income. Overall, we are the 7th - 9th most expensive state for real estate depending on the data used.
Saint George does not have a lot of water. There shouldn't be more building there. Yeah its beautiful, but it sure is extremely hot. Salt Lake County doesn't need any more people or development. We get horrible pollution regularly as there is no where for it to go. It builds up quickly after it gets washed away by rain. It doesn't rain often enough, in my opinion. There are two refineries in North Salt Lake. Mountains block the pollution in. My lungs hurt when it happens. Bangerter will take several years to be extended and connected more south to the I-15. Right now, the area it connects to the I-15 and on I-15 is very heavily congested during rush hour. Daybreak is extremely expensive. It is also heavily conjested. It is a pretty area and the homes are beautiful. They are HOA controlled though. Not only do you pay top dollar for these beautiful homes, you have to pay HOA fees and have them control what you can do to your home and property. There was a builder that had the basements cracking. Not all builders there had that happen. I got blocked for making that comment on their site. This man wants to put a rosy spin on all of this. Jordan River ends up being a creek during the hotter parts of the year. Do not build near Utah Lake. The ground is unstable. One family in particular has their basement sinking and they can see a lot of daylight between their basement foundation and the house above them. It is beginning with their neighbors with their driveways for now. Research it.
Thanks for sharing! I agree with you on the inversion / pollution problem for sure. As for Bangerter Hwy connecting with I-15, that's been done for so many years, I'm not sure what you're saying there. I chose to be positive and share it because this place is amazing and while it certainly has its Cons as well (every single place does), I firmly believe that what you focus on expands so if all you see is the negative, that's all you'll find. I do however share all of the negatives as well on this channel if you watch my videos. Thanks for sharing!
@scottdsteele I am not a realtor and don't need to paint a rosy picture and not mention the concerns. I don't dwell on the negative and love where I live and the people around. I rarely meet anyone who is not kind and friendly. I have family in St. George and they have told me, and I have seen it reported that there is not a lot of water there. It is also extremely hot during the summer. It is so heavily congested in Utah. We all have health concerns when the inversions hit. Until it rains, there is no place for it to go. We do need to be aware not to build near Utah Lake. We do need to research so we get the right builder. I was warned never to use a certain builder when we moved to Utah 30 years ago, and that person has proven to be right. The traffic does back up a lot on I-15 back to 7200 W. during rush hour. Connecting Bangerter further south, I think, will alleviate that. I can honestly say that our representatives work hard to be on top of the expansion of freeways. It is difficult because it costs a lot of money. They plan, and each project gets its turn.
Thanks for sharing!
The main problem with this influx of people is the water supply. Utah is a desert and has a lot smaller water supply than most of the states, ie the eastern states. Because of that, cities are encouraging people (extremely) to do options like zeroscaping which is ruining the ecosystem which pioneers died to create in this once barren wasteland that no one wanted to touch. The more people that move in, the more zeroscaping will have to be done, the more our ecosystem will die, the more our lakes will dry up, and the hotter it will get here. Grass and trees absorb and other plant life absorb heat people.
Thanks for sharing!!
Don't move to Utah. I have been here almost 40, and Utah is changing. Utah used to be great. We went camping over the weekend. We had a hard time even finding a campsite. I camp to enjoy the peace and quiet. It was constant ATV traffic on the forest service road from sunrise to well passed midnight. Utah is ruined.
I totally understand, it's become so much more busy during my lifetime
This is the BEST explanation video by a realtor I have ever watched, this is exactly what I wish was available for every area before contemplating a move! A well explained map, plenty of back ground on the neighborhoods, costs, traffic and travel explanations, and amenities. Great job!
Wow, thank you! That means a lot.. this is a big time commitment and I'm dead set on getting 1% better with each video. Thanks Adam!
@@adamgettinger491 And don’t forget to read the comments that also give information too, lots in the form of warnings….things to be aware of.
People move here to escape whatever it is they left behind. Except they bring a piece of that somewhere with them in terms of mental/cultural baggage. The character of this place is changing quickly. It's the usual story. People find a better, kinder place to live. They move there. Then it becomes an average place to live. Then it becomes a nasty place to live. And so it goes, round and round.
I understand your sentiment
@@scottdsteele No you don't. If you did you wouldn't encourage it.
That is where you are wrong. The scarcity mindset of "not in my back yard" and "stay out of Utah" are not doing any good are they? Is that working for you? Yes, I can understand someone else's perspective and viewpoint and still share a differing opinion.
@@chunkyd5880 I'm 78. I've seen it happen. Twice. Experience is a good teacher. There IS such a thing as too crowded.
I agree, and yes... experience is the very best teacher
Awesome video, Thanks!
Have a question for you. Are there many construction jobs in Utah? Which suburb is closer to where new construction projects are located. Im thinking to buy a propery in utah, somewhere 20 to 40 miles from main construction boom place. Your help will be appreciated
Of course! We build more here than any other state... construction jobs are everywhere near the metro areas. You couldn't possibly pick a spot that doesn't work for finding a construction job!
Native Utahn here. Mt. Pleasant (Sanpete County) is my hometown which is such a great place to live and so beautiful right at the base of the Manti Lasal Mountain range. I now live in Echo (Summit County) and work at the Park City hospital. This county is growing so fast! I wish it would just stop but theres major developing everywhere you look here!
Yeah, it's growing up there like crazy... and that's not going to slow down. I sold a cabin to a client in Mt. Pleasant and that sunset view in the evening is unbelievable! Beautiful and underrated place for sure!
I lived in Ephraim for 8 years and I don't believe how fast its grown since we left. Its very sad that the sweet quiet small towns are losing that attribute.
I agree with you.
Lived in Magna for the last 25 years. Not sure how you consider my town "less desirable community". When everyday more and more home, apartments are built here. There is so much construction going on here the town doesn't even look like it did just 7 years ago.
I think what you meant to say is this area is more blue collar and you wont see as many tesla cars in the neighborhoods like you do in daybreak.
Magna has been working class since it was settled, that hasnt changed and proably wont change anytime soon. I am ok with that. Alot of us here are proud of our town it has a long history. Old main street is full of that classic architecture. Hey, Hollywood sure likes to film here.
You are right, and I apologize for mis speaking too.. but less desirable, I am meaning the values of the real estate there vs other areas
You drive west on Main Street -- every other building is a church, or a pub!🙃
Crime is up. Several murders reported the last few years.
Sidewalks are the most awful I've ever seen in any city in Salt Lake County, but they have a nice big park & golf course, with a new playground. Don't live there if you homeschool. Nothing is happening there -- you have to drive your kids everywhere else in the county to do anything. Can't push a baby stroller -- you have to walk on the street & the streets are really narrow.
The local tattoo shop hosts a Halloween Parade for the kids in July!
Friendly town. You might like it if you want to live in a good sized city near, but not in the thick of the Salt Lake area.
The Southwest end of the county often has boil alerts.
Check the geology. It is quite common for new houses to be falling in sink holes, or mudslides because of the flooding and poor decisions by the builders. Buy a older house, but best not to move there at all. Way too many move-ins. Traffic, pollution & water restrictions keep getting worse.
To each their own!
Yeah from magna aswell miss the 5 star movie theater and just found out they tore down the alorica building and now putting houses up.
It seems like everything is being torn down to throw houses up these days
I lived in Utah from 1988-2011, save a couple of years in the mid 90s. Basically, high school and Undergrad. Moved in 2001 and have never moved back. I dont plan to. I still have siblings down there, and Im willing to make that trip 1-2 times a year, but outside of that, Im good. Im good.
Awesome, where did you move to?
As a lifelong resident of SLC, If you're considering moving to Utah County, I'm sorry, it's horrible out there. And while Daybreak is unique, it's build on the old Kennecott dumping ground. Of course you'll be reminded of this every time you look outside and see the destroyed mountain that is Kennecott.
Utah county isn't horrible at all... but some people certainly do not like it and I get that completely!
@@scottdsteeleokay, okay, disagreeable. Unpleasantly disagreeable.
I hear you!
And he didn't mention the pollution in Daybreak that demands tap water be imported from other parts of the valley as well as making gardens impossible to grow.
As a Daybreak resident of 17 years 😂, I should show you my garden boxes of tomatoes, strawberries, cucumber, etc 😂
Herriman is nice, but it’s an extra 15-20 minutes away from downtown. Daybreak is expensive and congested in many places. From what I’ve seen, the West side of West Jordan is more affordable and is far less congested.
Your assessment is Spot on! Great comment!
Really good info. Been here a few years now and the growth is just crazy. Where do you foresee opportunities for small multifamily properties? Cashflow properties seem nonexistent east of I-15.
Cash flowing investment property if you're buying now is nearly non existent except for larger multi family projects. Here, the play for an investor is a long term buy & hold strategy for that beautiful appreciation
A little disappointed to not hear anything about Commuter rail, light rail, BRT and regional bus. There are great areas where you can live car free or car light. Harvard-Yale and sugar house are excellent places to ditch the car. Driving sucks, and many families want to avoid it as much as possible.
Thanks for sharing this! I think I sound create an entire video about this honestly
Yeah, traffic is AWFUL in Sugarhouse. Even fire trucks have difficulty getting to where they need to go.
@@erikaw5669 Yeah, it's a highly desired area with a lot of destinations. That's why the streetcar, buses and bikes are so popular there. It's probably one of the best neighborhoods in the state.
I agree as well
The transit system SUX in Utah compared to other states.
I live in Murray, between the northeast and southeast quadrant. When the valley fills up, I am selling, cashing in, and moving out to rural Utah. I hope whoever moves in enjoys the Salt Lake Valley as much as I have.
Great outlook!
SLC Uber driver here.
The homes in the Avenues are pretty, but ancient in SLC terms. But more importantly, driving around up in there is dangerous as all of the N/S roads are on a grade, and barely wide enough for 2 cars to pass by each other. And that with people treating every intersection as if any signage is no more than a suggestion.
Mountain View Highway is horribly designed with high speeds and widely spaced intersections. People have a tendency to build up speed and then blow through red lights because the road feels like a freeway when it isn't. There are almost zero overpasses on that road as of yet.
That said, Traffic congestion is on the rise across the greater SLC metro area, (Ogden to Draper.) And property values are skyrocketing in the area in a bad way.
Thanks for sharing! Mountain View is wonderfully designed, but what you're driving on now is not yet built as what it will become. The over passes will come, the space is ample and the treacherous road that it may feel like now will be long gone. Give it time. This is how these interstate highways and major infrastructure have to be implemented in phases
They air quality needs to be addressed HERE! It is often the worst in the nation. I believe quite a few of my relatives died of exposure over the years. I can not image how bad it is going to be in just a few years, with all the underplanned growth in the valley. :( I would not want my children to grow up in this soup.
This is the dirty little secret... oil refinery, copper mine/smelter, Geneva steel, ATK, chemical weapons incinerator at dugway... its a mess.
Geneva is long gone. Now it's people, houses and more traffic plugging up the roads 😔
The air here gets trapped mostly in those winter inversions but also smokey air when California, the northwest or even Canada are on fire
@@scottdsteele it's bad a lot of the time for no other reason than traffic. There are summer days that are hot and yucky. They put out notices to "work from home" or "carpool." It's not just the winter!
I know, it's the winter that's the worst but the air can be poor on days throughout the year
Anywhere with lots of Trucking infrastructure? I’m from North Dakota and want to move somewhere warmer that still has all seasons. Utah is in my short list of potential states but the cost of housing is a major concern. Things are getting bad when a 6 figure income can’t cover housing prices within the 50/30/20 rule.
I agree with you for sure with cost of living and housing. As for trucking, that industry is big here given our geographic location in the middle of the west. Salt Lake City is the center (specifically the industrial area to the west of SLC) of the industry and SLC is known as the "crossroads of the west" as a central hub between Mexico and Canada as well as connections through Las Vegas to Southern California as well as going straight west to San Francisco.
From Seattle
How do you best handle the dry non humid air? Pros/cons of no humidity
Great question!
PROS:
- Hot isn't as Hot
- Cold isn't as Cold
- Amazing summer nights in Utah
- Very few bugs compared to most states
CONS:
- Dry skin
- Dry Hair
- Dry throat, etc that can make it worse when you're sick
Solution:
- upgraded skin care & hair care routines & products
- humidifier for use when sick
- Lotion / hand moisturizer
I live in Tooele. It takes 45 minutes to get to the University of Utah on a good weather, no I-80 accidents day. Daybreak, super high property taxes. My son bought on the Herriman side of the road that divides the cities because of the taxes. The NE quarter is as blue as blue can be. The SE is getting there too.
Property taxes in Daybreak (84009) are slightly lower than in Tooele. There are online tools from the state where you can look this up and enter zip codes. This is based on the same price of a home. If you buy a more expensive home, you'll pay more in taxes, not a higher rate. Also, Herriman and Daybreak have identical property tax rates of 0.640%
How is the water quality in Utah Lake? i see big agriculture next to it. Where do their runoff water go? Is it a reservoir or a lake you can boat on?
Utah lake is a lake, not a reservoir and due to its location at the bottom of a basin in Utah County, it's sort of like a giant shallow bathtub. It used to be polluted but it's not anymore and the overall water quality is good. However, it's what is called a hypereutrophic lake meaning it's very high in minerals as well as nutrients like nitrogen and phosphorus so you wouldn't want to eat fish from this lake. It's very shallow with a muddy lake bed which gives it a less than desirable color and it also can be greatly affected by seasonal algae blooms. Yes you can boat on it and ski (sometimes) but most people go to one of our many reservoirs instead.
@@scottdsteele thanks a lot for the details i appreciate it. I love ski season and boating so SLC is good for my relocation. But i wanna find rural property.
Look outside of the Wasatch Front for sure!!
@@scottdsteele i saved your infos in my contact.
I ll remain on sideline until fedrate, median price, inventory gets more exciting
Bingo! If you ever want to have a conversation, I'm here for you!!
Syracuse is where i grew up farms and fields as far as you could see and now its just roads and houses
It's going to fill up much much more too
Ruinarion in progress.
Agreed. We tend to romanticize the past when the future & change frighten us.
You mentioned that Saint George'sbclimate is different, how is that?
St George has a climate very very similar to that of Las Vegas. It's much warmer, no snow, year round golf and palm trees
I absolutely LOVE where I live in rural Utah. Very small town in the desert. Quiet, peaceful, not a ton of traffic. Not much has changed from when I was little. We moved to Utah county when I was 7, but we still spent a lot of time in my hometown. My husband and I are buying a place 30 minutes away from where I grew up. I wouldn’t trade my house out here for anywhere. It’s not as convenient as living near big grocery stores but we have our own small business pool here and that’s enough for us. We are still close enough to commute back to Utah county when we need to. Our towns in Utah have gotten way too big and housing way too expensive. I’m grateful to have found our home after 6 years of being homeless. We couldn’t afford living costs up north.
Awesome! Thank you so much for sharing. Which town?
@@scottdsteele I’d rather not say. It’s a town that many people don’t know of or even know it exists. It was almost a ghost town but since we moved here, there has been quite a lot more people moving in here as well lately but not too many.
I completely understand! I lived for 5 years in my youth in Carbonville tucked between Price and Helper so I was just curious.
@@scottdsteele I grew up in price. I’m closer to green river. We picked up our fixer upper for 35,000. It had been vacant for 15 years. We have an acre of property too. Watching the deer every night is so peaceful
Awesome! It's a very different experience down there and the older I get, the more I appreciate the way of life that small towns provide
We love living in Cottonwood Heights for many years. But I am not sure about the quality of air and the shortage of water these days. Anyway thank you for the very insightful video.
Thank you so much for sharing! My office is right here in Cottonwood Heights too!
Where’s this time warp portal you’re hitting to get to SLC in 18min 😂😂
I can't remember that part of that video but perhaps I miss spoke!😁
My house (edge of Lehi and Bluffdale) to SLC this morning at 915am was 26 min to Pioneer Park downtown.
It totally depends on your proximity to the main arteries / highways.
I think he said he could get from South Jordan (Day Break) to the airport in 18-20 minutes by way of Bangerter Highway.
That is what I said, thanks!
Wouldnt mind moving to Daybreak. Currently live in the Ogden area. How much are the homes in daybreak?
Homes in Daybreak range from the 300's for condos, 400-500's for townhomes, single family homes 600k+
Let's talk and see what we can do to help you whether that is soon or way down the road
You're right, It is more expensive in Daybreak than Weber County
Glad we built in Draper 30 years ago. No way we could afford it today.
No kidding! Draper is expensive now and rightfully so. Thanks for the comment!
Can you tell me it that lake is private or is public beach??the one in the South???
Utah lake has mostly public space surrounding it but beaches are few
The problem with the Wasatch front is the "corridor" affect combined with all the "small" cities crammed next to each other. It makes it so there is no to little room for expansion/growth of those cities. So these small cities need tax income, right. Well, be prepared for those small cities to look for revenue elsewhere, like by ticketing the populace to make up for no growth. It is crappy and it happens all along the Wasatch front. This guy wants to sell you a house in SLC, he don't care if you find you local police ticketing you as much as possible. There have been local news reports on this very issue... I am sure this happens in other "corridor" settlements as well, I advise you look for places with more possiblity to grow, like southern utah, its gorgeous there. Or the far north "Brigham city area", alas there's not alot of "work" up there, and the morning commute to/from SLC is packed. Oh and there is the wanning influence of the Mormon Church. Utah is there home state after all...
Thanks for the comment! How do you feel like you know what "I don't care" about? I'm genuinely interested because those who have ever spoken with me or better yet, actually know me, would laugh at that statement.
@@scottdsteele I don't truely know your feelings, I do hope your friends are correct. Sorry for the assumption. I do know real estate agents have a monetary motivation to hide any negatives about buying houses in areas they're trying to sell them in. You do touch upon some of the issues with SLC area living. So I hope you are not like that. The Great Salt Lake area is nice, best snow on earth, it can smell out west some days, and those gorgeous mountians we have do trap the smog in far to often. So pardon my diskile of more people moving here, especially since all I see is appartments going up (even seen the start of "tent cities" in SLC under the freeway while working on our new airport) and fewer and fewer single family housing projects. I am sorry for any personal slight against you, it is my frustration over a system trying to cram more and more people into a smaller and smaller area.
Thank you so much for sharing, and I truly understand your frustration 100%!
Brigham City area has a lot of farms, and we need those. I haven't had a ticket in decades.
Do you really believe that I can get someone to move here? Really???
I moved here 4 weeks ago from Oklahoma city with a construction company from Denver to build a facility at the University.
The pay in SLC is really good. But finding an affordable rental is very difficult.
Almost every add on social media is a scam.
What area could I find a basic I person rental so I can still send $ money to my family.
Where do regular working people live that isn't 2k a month?
I know, 2k per month feels normal now but there are still places to be under $1,500 but it won't be something new. Reach out if you'd like some help
Ogden is a hack. Lived in SL county most of my life, bought a house in Ogden for about 60/70k less than comps in Salt Lake. I can walk to local restaurants and coffee shops. Old world tree growth. In the canyon in 5 minutes. Yes, some lower income residents & different crime than newer developed areas. Haven't had personal problems, nor have my neighbors. Lots of pockets of young professionals renovating older homes here, myself included. Almost want to gatekeep, but its a great community that is continually getting better. The old stereotypes are very outdated.
You nailed it with this comment and you're 100% correct. In fact, I'm posting a video this weekend showing some new homes just west of Ogden and it's awesome up here.
Ogdenite here also! Downtown...it's gentrifying so fast. We like it here.
I need to do more content in Ogden
I'm right here in ogden utah as well. Happy, healthy, raising 4 kids and loving it.
Also here in Ogden and I love this town. Started my company here and it’s the best decision I have ever made.
Everyone wants to live in Salt Lake and Utah counties. Let’s keep growth and traffic down there. Keep up the good work on those areas.
Good work?
Wow, Scott. Awesome video, excellent content, informative and educational! Loved it! To answer your question, my wife and I just moved here from Arizona, Buckeye, and Lake Havasu. By the way, what's with all the haters 🤔 maybe they are the one's that should head over to New Jersey, I'm sure they'll fit right in! Just saying 😊
Thanks! That's awesome. The haters come out when I create a video that attracts negativity and I have 2 that have done that including this video. It's draining
Thank you Scott we will retain your info.
You bet! I'm here to help you!
I selling my home in Lindon Utah and try to buy in Saint George Utah how’s the market?
Hi Gustavo!? I'd love to show you precisely what's happening both in your neighborhood in Lindon as well as in St. George. Reach out to me and let's meet up on person or on a call.
Im moving to SLC for 18 months for a construction project at the University.
Any suggestions for yearly rentals ?
Under 2k, not choosy, work a lot.
Hi Jeff! Yes, there are plenty of great options. Hit me up, I've got a team and we can help you
Very hard to find d a rental.
I'm at a hotel in Sugarhouse. Love the area.
If you get 15 -20 further from the city, it's much better in terms of what you'll get for the money
You have to be careful about complaining about the noise near the air force base. People will insult you and tell you to deal with it. So, if you don't like jets or their noise. Don't come to Layton. I like to mention it just because i love to get them started. lol
I love it! Thanks for sharing!
@@scottdsteele I moved here 15 years ago to marry my lovely wife. I also moved my family here shortly after. They all love it here and I'm currently helping the rest of my family to come here. :)
Awesome! I'm so happy that you love it here
After living and raising our family in Taylorville, we retired and moved to a small rural town in central utah with a population of 1500. So, glad we moved when we did. Occasionally we have to go to the city and it's unbelievable how crowded it is. It also smells bad. The infrastructure can't handle the traffic.
Thanks for sharing! Change is difficult and the infrastructure continues to evolve and grow along with it and is keeping up nicely in some areas and lagging in others. The infrastructure does work and for almost everyone who is moving here from elsewhere laugh a little when they hear of our terrible traffic and then witness how easy it is compared to where they come from. It's all perspective and for those of us who have lived in Utah out entire lives, it can feel much more difficult.
It’s great that you found a small town that worked for you!
I just moved back out here at the end of April. And I live in Copperton. Love this little area. Perfect for a family it's just me and my 3 kids.
Don't say too much or that little secret spot of Copperton will be let out!
Thanks for sharing Sarah
Then whats the safest and cost effective area of Utah to purchase a home and raise a family?
Most places are safe and far safer than most everywhere they people are moving from. To answer your 2nd question, the spots that are really popping off right now with more affordable single family homes and townhomes is northern Utah county in Lehi, Saratoga Springs and especially Eagle Mountain as well as southern z Utah County in and around Spanish Fork, as well as Tooele County (just west of Salt Lake County) as well as up north around Syracuse
What a great video. Very informative. I'm thinking seriously about moving to SLC though looking at the comments I'll not be welcome
It's a very very vocal minority of people who choose to share negativety. You'll find this everywhere you go. I just spoke to neighbors tonight and asked these very questions and people have a wonderful experience moving here. Don't let the few bad apples ruin it for you.
@@scottdsteele thanks for your thoughtful response!
You as well! Have an awesome day!
Of course you'll be welcome. Don't listen to the loud minority of people on here. Utah is beautiful, and we would love to have you.
Agreed!
You talked about all of the bottle necks on the freeways, but you didn't talk about any of the transit options. Frontrunner is fairly reliable and is double tracking to bring more trains.
Very good point! Frontrunner is great too. Thanks for sharing!
States full, don't come here
I hear you!
Minor quibble: Interstate 80 is continuous from New Jersey (Teaneck, IIRC) all the way to the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge.
Oh no! I thought that it had a break in it.. but you're absolutely right! I should have known this, thanks for helping me!
Governor Cox told Californians to stay home, we don't have the inventory. Utah homes for Utah residents.
Governor Cox also tells us to "disagree better" while supporting trans eradication.
Yes he did! However, no politician or anyone has any power to control where free Americans choose to move to, so it was more of a political play to pander to his constituents than anything else. It is absolutely reality that we need to build more homes for Utahns regardless of who is moving here and I love your Utah pride!
I hear you.
Born and raised in Salt Lake City. Currently living in St George.
Awesome!
Should mention 9th and 9th liberty park area.
I agree, I need to do a video just about that area for sure! Thanks!
I live across the street from Liberty park which is part of SLC metro area.
What I love about Utah is how small the city is.
I don't have to get on a freeway, I can just take 700 S all the way to Cottonwood Heights
When he shows you the older homes? That's where I live. In a 1987 Victorian home in a neighborhood called Liberty or Liberty Wells.
I wouldn't come here to live in the suburbs. It all looks the same.
Hi Lady! I Love Liberty Wells and I love those old homes too. You have a 💎
This was very informative. Thank you.
Thanks Josh!
I just moved to Payson, and it’s not too bad out here yet
Thanks Nate! I hope you love it here
It will continue to grow for sure
@@scottdsteele would you recommend purchasing chunks of land in like Nephi, or somewhere further south that you think will eventually develop like Lehi or AF? I want to sit on valuable assets in about 20 years. What’s your opinion?
Nate, if you want a non income generating property to park money for 20 years, you'd be incredibly wise to invest in anything all of the way down to Nephi. Also, you'll likely see the best return where the median priced homes will be developed over the next 2 decades and all of the population forecasts point directly to southern Utah County, Eagle Mountain and here's a really really good one.... Tooele County. Tooele County is going to explode over the next 2 decades due to its proximity to SLC.
I used to ride my bike along the Jordan River parkway for years. The North end is not what it used to be, and I don't really feel comfortable riding on it anymore.
I don't blame you Jazzie!
Do not move into San Pete County. I'm from Utah and LDS, and I have been treated like I'm a nothing. Been here 6 years and I have been told things like "I ruined their work family when I moved here". (I'm very talented in the design and floral industry so I got a job at the one and only local floral shop. After 4 years of busting my butt, that's what I was told. I make $12 and an hour with a degree. My daughter was told to "go back to where she came from." Got a "Dog at Large" ticket when I was playing ball with our dog on my own front yard. Never left the dogs' site, yet when I asked about a dog park so that new people could meet others, I was told, "Lady, the whole town is a dog park." It's the worst
I'm sorry, you might want to find a new crowd, and I wish you the very best
Thats real crappy.... I just don't understand some areas/wards and how some have the most supportive and nice people while others are the pits. I have experienced both in my life. I hope that either you can move to a better area or those who are around you either change for the better or move out so better neighbors can move in.
When you come across people that don't lift you up, just move on and keep looking, you'll find good people. They are everywhere and if we focus on linking up with the good ones rather than focusing on the bad ones, you'll find what you are looking for
I've lived in Utah my whole life. There's a lot of benefits. I currently live in Eagle Mountain and have lived here for 5 years. I can attest to the traffic situation. It's genuinely horrible. I've spend lots of time driving in Los Angeles and Eagle Mountain, Saratoga Springs, and Herriman are the only places in the state that rival the horrific traffic in LA. The distances traveled generally aren't as far so it's not as bad as LA, but any given intersection during rush hour is just totally gridlocked. It's gotten way worse in the last couple of years. I do think the new road construction will do a lot for the traffic situation, but that's still a long way out. I think building permits need to be slowed down to allow for infrastructure to catch up because in a couple years it will genuinely be unlivable for anyone who has to commute to work.
Thanks for sharing! The funding for the infrastructure and the construction itself is there and underway now. In 3-5 years it will be massively improved
Redwood Road in the saratoga area is such a nightmare, I try my best to avoid driving around there anywhere from 4-7:30ish pm
I know! It'll get so much better in the coming years but it's busy now
We are not taking new residents at this time. Come back in 50 years.
I hear you!
I am living in Austin, Texas now. I have emailed several area chamber of commerces of Salt Lake City, Provo, Murray and Lehi yesterday. Not one chamber reponded to me as of today. I am beginning to think that a lot of cities really don't want any more newcomers moving to the Salt Lake City area.
I don't think that an area chamber of commerce is the place to go at all. Let me know if I can help!
@@scottdsteele - Okay, I will. Thanks, Scott!
Best wishes!!
Utah is amazing, most people across the country have no idea how good it is. Salt Lake is wonderful and, despite all the comments about "Dont move here," the people are friendly and most neighborhoods are full of good people. But it is growing and everyone needs to understand that it is definitely going to grow more, whether people want that or not. There is no stopping it. So if you are coming to Utah, WELCOME. Look around and find a place that suits you. But expect more growth, always. Also, be aware that the Winter Olympics is coming, again, in about 10 years and lots of things will be changed to get ready for it. I grew up in the middle of Downtown and have lived all over Salt Lake, in all 4 quadrants that he has mentioned. Depending on what you want, there are good places everywhere. NW, including West Valley City and Magna are definitely more blue collar, but I even lived in West Valley for 15 years and loved it. I have great access to everything because I currently live between Bangerter Highway and Mountain View Corridor Freeway, on the border between Riverton and Herriman, about 1 mile south of Daybreak, and half a mile north of the new Mountain View Village, and I think some amazing things are happening. But, yeah, growth 😐.
Thank you so much for sharing and for your perspective!
Not sure I understood you: Is a major league baseball stadium planned for the Power District or the Daybreak District? Or both? Are those two areas in competition for it? Also, if a hockey stadium is built, where will it likely be?
Sorry for that confusion Steven!
The AAA Salt Lake Bees stadium is currently being built right now in Daybreak and will be completed next year.
A proposed Major League Baseball stadium has been given the green light in terms of location, private funding in The Larry H Miller Group, public money through HB562 to help fund the development. This will be in the Power district right in between downtown SLC and the airport.
The Hockey team is now officially coming. Ryan Smith bought the team and it is starting this fall and they'll be playing in the Delta center until they get construction going on a new 3 block sports and entertainment district that will include a remodeled Delta center where the NHL team will share the same arena as the Utah Jazz
The public money? The publicaly funded 1 billion in tax dollars going straight into the Ryan Smith's pocket. A billionaire's pocket. We are giving a billionaire a billion dollars so he can make billions more, with tax breaks, while increasing the sales tax .5 percent to 8.5 percent within the Salt Lake City boundaries only, up to 8.5%. All of Utah will be going to entertainment that we are being forced to pay for while the mayor is hiking up her salary in a huge tax grab from 160K a year to 202K a year. 26 percent along with the city council going from 33K to 53K for part time work.
The state is a corruption machine now heavily affecting Salt Lake City.
It's so hard to see public money (our money) being used and I completely understand and agree with your frustration!
Everyone should read the actual bill that has passed to partner with the Miller Group for the baseball stadium. The funding does not come from our tax payer dollars, but instead is done through bonds tied to hotel taxes so that essentially visitors are helping to pay the majority of that 900 million. Then, the Miller Group is going to put up 3.5 billion and together they will create this new area full of business and residential units that will bring a massive increase in property and sales taxes to the State of Utah. The state is investing 1B (of mostly visitors $) to then create an ongoing stream of drastically increased cash from it's use along with owning the stadium.
As for the NHL / NBA Arena (Delta Center) Development plan involving 3 city blocks to build a new sports and entertainment district, that .5% increase in sales tax is in Salt Lake City, not state wide and that added revenue alone will create 1Billiion in addition to the added revenue by the increased spending in that district by those attending games.
Let me know if this is a good video for me to produce as well!
This was a very fair assessment of SLC
Thanks TJack!
This is very helpful!
Thank you so much!
UTAH SUCKS! PLEASE DONT MOVE HERE! ITS A TERRIBLE PLACE TO LIVE! GO TO COLORADO, THATS A BETTER IDEA. OR BOISE! TAKE CARE!
Thomas, I love the sarcasm but this just proves how awesome it is here too! Thanks for the comment!
I rhibk u should do a video on ogden area.
I will!
The church does not run the state on paper, but considering how deeply rooted it is in the people and the culture, you will see regulations and policies that are influenced by the church and their history. The scales are tipping away from the Mormon population and the liquor laws are slowly changing, but the culture is still present. It's a bit of a culture shock for those not used to it. More apparent in Utah County around Provo.
You are spot on! The values, beliefs and traditions of those who are members do influence for sure since they are the majority who hold office. I do also believe that it is those very values that built this state into what it is and hope that those who are coming will add to the diversity and the culture, which I've loved seeing over these recent years
Let's hope we gain a stronger hold on the Christian values which have made this state great. SLC is a great warning to us to stop driving down the decency and morals of the standards which are necessary to make and keep a great civilization. What is being pumped out from the left mentally ill, is sad and extremely damaging; dangerous to themselves and all around them.
Well said Laura!
Thank you Scott. I already bought a home in Lehi!
Awesome! Lehi is great. Welcome!
Best these people just move to California
Why is that?
I live in Sandy, Utah, about 10 miles South of Downtown Salt Lake City, Utah, near Union Middle School and Midvalley Elementary School.
Nice! Thanks for sharing!
I was surprised you didn’t mention Utah City and Vineyard. That’s okay, we’ll keep it our own little secret. 😊
I love it! I will be doing videos there... and it's certainly not a secret, I'm sorry!!
I 'm from Washington State but I moved to Orem 5 years ago.
Welcome Allison!
I lived here for 37 years. i love this valley and have lived in West Valley Salt Lake Kearns magna. i currently live in South Jordan, buy I 15, and i must say it is much better than anywhere else in the valley
That is an amazing area Rob!
I know it's been mentioned before that renting right now can be cheaper in some cases compared to purchasing a home. How does the rental market and properties compare in the SLC metro area?
Great question! Right now... it is cheaper to rent single family homes than it is to buy and that spread is greater now than it's been in 20 years. This will certainly change in the coming months and years as interest rates relax and the markets balance out again.
I have some great data as well if you'd like me to email it to you. Just let me know!
here in daybreak too!
Hi Jeslyn! We're neighbors!!
Watching this as ssomeone from Uintah going to college at the U. It's a very nice city, and I like seeing the growth. However, construction is such a pain to get through.
I completely understand
Excellent!! Great description of area. We bought two years ago just west of I-15 in Lehi. Easy two minute access to the highway. The best information to provide is not how far but rather how long is the commute to get to I-15 during rush hours.
Great feedback and thank you! I love hearing what you guys want, it keeps me improving
I live in academy Park, West valley. I've lived in Utah all my life and we were always east side dwellers. I told my husband I would never live past 1300 East. In 2020 we bought a home in West valley City. I hate West valley, however I LOVE academy Park area. Beautiful neighborhood, neighbors, quiet. We've never had any issues with theft or crime in our neighborhood.
However, if I had the opportunity to move back to the East side, I would.
Thanks for sharing!
utah doesn't want prople to keep moving in. Utah is a cold desert. Spring breaks after memorial day. Logan has really bad air...inversions full of Mormons, Pay is low and houses are high. Utah lake is highly polluted.
Yes, Utah is a high elevation cold desert. Spring in Utah absolutely is bi-polar most years. Logan, surprisingly, has worse air than SLC oftentimes. Full of Mormons? What's your point here? If you don't like that there are "mormons" here, you're welcome to leave where you won't have to rub shoulders with them. Regardless, that's a pretty bigoted thing to say and that's something that I can't imagine anybody wants more of. Wages are low here (23rd in the nation) especially as a ratio to housing costs, but more people here create their own businesses than most states rather than rely on wage income. Utah lake used to be very polluted, and still is with respect to high levels of mineral Salt and Phosphorus.
They foolishly want to build manmade islands in Utah Lake, but ignore that it's the home of the endangered June Sucker. Plus, it would look ugly, likely increase pollution in the lake (think additional oil runoff from leaky cars in the middle of the lake), & ruin the whole feel of its State Park status. Morons!!!
That proposal did fall by the wayside
I live in the north west and want to be southeast. Magna is getting really popular as well for planned neighborhoods.
And my house is valued at around $450,000 we bought 14yrs ago for 130,000.
You're right Scott, Magna and West Valley and all along the west bench, we're seeing the most growth and with planned developments
It get's very smoggy here in the winter. The gov is run by the LDS and they are extremely conservative.
That winter weather creates what is called an inversion and we typically see about 14-17 days of it per year. The government is NOT run by the LDS church despite that being something that many people seem to like to say. Lastly, yes, Utah is a conservative state and is precisely why many are moving here and this is happening all over the country.
Dude I live in Utah and I'm sorry we have way more inversion than that and the government is definitely run by the Mormon Church absolutely no question
Lol as someone who is intimately familiar with Utah government, you are obviously not from here. The LDS do not run the government. And Utah is conservative compared to Oregon and California, but not nearly as much as most of the south. The state is very centrist.
I'm using data, not my feelings about both the inversions as well as the government. Anyone can look these things up as well. There is literally absolutely nothing to even remotely prove or show that the LDS church runs the government here. The Church is politically neutral and only becomes involved in advocating it's interest when there is a moral issue at stake. How do they do so? Influence, for sure, just like any other organization and because a very large part of the population here belongs to this faith and shares its values, it is also represented in the character and makeup of the political bodies here. There is of course, opposition in all things... and that is actually a good thing. Every person or organization can have a voice and of course that voice is magnified by the extent of it's influence based on its size. About 80% of lawmakers in the state identify as members of the faith, and about 40% of Utahn's identify as members of the faith. A good question to ask is why is that? If people that have differing views, they have the opportunity to run for elected positions just the same. The narrative that the Church runs the government is completely false and is simply regurgitation of ignorance that gets recycled over and over again.
Well said. Thanks!
What about Cache Valley? Logan?
I need to do more content up there for sure
You gotta make around $400k+ to live in those areas
I'm which areas? All of them?
@@scottdsteele Most of the areas you're talking about. The counties away from Salt Lake, Davis, Summit and Utah County you can live there for less than 6 figures.
I agree, costs have sky rocketed! We have a serious home affordability crisis here too
Will it get better or worse?
I believe that it will continue to get worse... until we actually tackle the problem and that is our supply. We just don't build enough homes and we haven't since 2008 with the only exception being the crazy hot pandemic market where builders ramped up production and that gap finally started to shrink, but now it's doing the opposite again.
I am new on the channel.
I began with the University of Utah.
It's my dream to go to the USA.
That's a good dream!
The real best place to live is outside our borders. You don't want to live in crummy old Utah.... so just keep driving... away from us.
I hear you
Hello. I'm moving to SLC from Tampa, FL
Welcome Diana! Let's talk!
Those older homes are nice but they are way expensive and you dont have a yard
Everyone has different trastes and preferences
Who remembers when you where in the middle of the valley. You could go anywhere in 15 minutes or less? When the Doyle family operated Brighton and it was 5 bucks! Keg party's at lark sand dunes ! Who's old enuf to remember what daybreak use to be? In case your not here goes. Daybreak is literally built atop a caustic landfill. Harper excavation was brought in to remove the top 36 inches of that retired caustic landfill prior to building that community. I personally as a local recommend staying where your at and get involved in fixing what's causing you to move. 🍻
Thanks for sharing Mark!