I liked the idea of Logan and Victor being brothers in the Origins movie, even if the movie wasn’t so good. Jackman and Liev did a good job portraying them
He crawled his way out of hell. He was originally meant to be an irredeemable villain but he has done some unselfish things from time to time. He has layers
@@damianprock1650 a r rating won't save it cause deadpool was a bussy popping dualogy and wolverine was a garbage movie from a garbage time line that they can't even accurately bring to movies cause they ain't got the rights to every marvel character and replaced wolverine with the made for xmen evolution o.c. gender swapped character x23
@@tyronleung5276 I wouldn't be so sure, having X23 be Wolverine's daughter in *Logan* really put things into perspective for us, when Tchaka died in a fight with Ulysses Klaw, his son, Tchalla took his place as the Black Panther, I reckon the same can be said for Damian Wayne when his father, Bruce ends up killed by forces sent by Plankton
Kind of surprised you guys didn't mention the relationship with Sabretooth and Mystique. Also surprising is the fact that despite both of them being mutants, their son was born human who ended up hating mutants, forming The Friends of Humanity.
In the movies Wolverine could beat Sabretooth but in the comics Sabretooth was always a step ahead and was always a Big Brother type villain...I actually likes the idea of them being related since their powers are so similar
Wolverine actually grew up in an affluent family. His abusive life didn't start until after his biological father killed the man who was raising him in front of him
Wolverine actually grew up in an affluent family. His abusive life didn't start until after his biological father killed the man who was raising him in front of him
The reason why Sabretooth is more "brutal" and aggressive than Wolverine is because Sabretooth never got the Adamantium infusion. Wolverine would be EXACTLY as savage as Sabretooth; however, since Wolverine got the Adamantium infusion attached to his bones, his body/healing factor are CONSTANTLY trying to fight it off (it is a foreign substance to his body). That fight going on within Wolverine was causing his body to focus on healing him, instead of focusing on his inherent feral instincts. However, since Sabretooth's body has nothing to fight, he becomes more and more feral as time goes on. You see Sabretooth as a child, and he looks normal; just like Wolverine did. Then, you see them getting older, and Victor starts acting more aggressive (with the "attacking" the women during war-times). Logan wasn't as old as Victor, so he still had some time before Logan became as vicious as Victor. Then, Wolvarine got the Adamantium, and you can clearly see he remains just about the same from then on. But, if you look at Victor, he continues to further become more beast-like. Victor ends up growing longer K-9 teeth; longer hair; his hands becoming claws; his feet starting to look like paws; his eyes begin to lose their humanity. That's why you don't see Sabretooth in the Logan movie. Sabretooth continued to get feral to the point where he couldn't control himself. He went "insane" and began killing indiscriminately. And, some "alphabet government agency" sent agents to kill him before he causes any more damage. Meanwhile, in the same movie, the doctor whom helped Logan told him that he had "something" inside him which was killing him. The funny thing is, the same Adamantium which was killing him NOW, was the same Adamantium which prevented him from going full-on feral beast mode. It was the Adamantium which was killing him, but it also helped him keep his humanity until the very end.
It's why X-23 is the best mix of both. Her claws are coated yet that's it. She's already just as dangerous as Creed due to the Trigger scent where she can wipe out a whole town like it's nothing. Only due to her own guilt from those events she isn't more feral. Yet she's still very young.
To further your point look at what happened to Logan when he got the metal ripped out I hated how they messed with "hes gonna be Logans older half brother" to "jus kidding dog is a different person and he's human"
One version that's not often brought up is the age of apocalypse sabertooth, in an alternate timeline where apocalypses evil rules the world, even in a time were heroes like Hank McCoy are turned into twisted servents to him, in a twist that timelines Victor Creed stands with the resistance against apocalypse and shows his heroism, not just in figuring him, but being a father to Blink. I loved this sabertooth, including when he continued his story with Blink across alternate realities in the Exiles comics.
@@reapersritehand Yeah, which suggests the path of evil he follows in the main 606 timeline was averted by the events of apocalypse rising to power, and Victor going down an entirely different path, instead of embracing apocalypses evil, he stood against it in the end siding with magneto.
That was because Sabretooth became popular in the 90's, and Age of Apocalypse gave a great long alt dystopian (What If? type) story. Plenty of role reversals. All while the characters struggled with what they were in essence. It was successful. Prime (back to 616) merged the personality types through the M'Kraan. Victor Creed as a character was able to be accepted by fans as potentially Heroic, and brought through rehab before the Phalanx Covenant. Blink with Sabretooth was relatable like how Kitty Pryde had a Mentor/Caretaker in Wolverine. It was just a great time. Later on, Exiles expanded on it with a lot of fun adventures.
@@memorydrain7806 yeah I know this version of Victor died in exiles comics 😔, but because its comics I like to hold out belief either he still exists in another alternative timeline or he'll come back to life one day, since you know, comics
Man I read that comic as a kid and loved that sabretooth. It was my first experience with alternate versions of characters and people and not blew my mind
Sabertooth, Mr. Sinister and Magneto... 3 of the greatest villains. Not to be confused with most powerful/greatest powers. And all originating from X-men.
Sabretooth is too hardcore for modern day comics and MCU. He can't be watered down, sissified, or made to push an agenda. Creed is cold. He kills and gets off on it.
Liev Schreiber was a great sabretooth I even liked the scene were Logan and sabretooth were tied up and he said to Logan wake me up when they finished shooting at us even the xmen 90’s cartoon version was awesome i was shocked they did a PDST episode of Sabretooth horrified of his past, were mystique and sabretooth partners at one stage correct me if I’m wrong
You're not wrong my guy *Sabertooth and Mystique* were getting it in so much that Sabertooth shot her club up. Then Mystique carried his offspring son to full term. She realized that their son is not a mutant and she dump him off. I can't remember what his first name is, but he does have Sabertooth's last name in Creed. I think he's like William Stryker and the Friends of Humanity zealots.
One more thing Liev Schreiber was great as Sabertooth arrogant, cocky and snarkey remarks. I believe they drew Liev Schreiber's face onto the current Sabertooth that's on lockdown in Krakcoa.
Victor Creed Sabretooth is one of the few "Street Level" Marvel Villains tht would almost undoubtedly defeat Batman in their 1st fight. If Batsy lives then Bruce attones.
Good video, but there are some flaws with what you've stated: 1. Wolverine and Sabretooth are NOT brothers in the mainline comics (Earth-616) 2. Wolverine Origin II mentions Creeds brother Saul and Clara (Saul ended up being killed by Logan in a scuffle and Clara cut all ties with Logan as a result) 3. Part of the reason Victor hates Logan so much is that Logan pretty much killed Saul, who was apparently Victor's punching bag and with him gone Victor pretty much desired a new one (And we all know who...)
This particular character.....is what any of us could hope for concerning ability as a human being. The difference being our healing, sensory & durability factors would be absolutely stellar surpassing what Logan presents for example. They each have been insane not savage as killing or molestation of any sort for that matter is unnatural as instinct denotes hence their capacity being restricted by default instead of meek, mighty or each. Research regenerative medicine, tamarind & martial artistry as well as vegan as vegan is all about 100% food/drink solely yet + spirituality. I KNOW we can achieve such capacity per one of us. Intuition denotes it. To the beach bod. 👣
Sabretooth is such an interesting character. This video gave a basic history, but Creed is one of the most savage, terrifying and bloodthirsty characters marvel has. He terrorised the X men in the 90s and early 2000s. Shame he's been so dumbed down in recent years.
Great video! I love Sabretooth. He's ruthless, and a great addition to Marvel. He's definitely part of the darker side of comics, and I love it. Ps. Love the layout and format of the video. It was a fun watch.
I remember Sabretooth from the comics but what really took it is when he appeared in X-men the animated series. The way Wolverine reacted to just the smell of Sabretooth let's you know it's darker and alot more sinister between them.
I hope they will make his rivalry with wolverine more recognized in mcu because we all know back in the day everytime logan can smell sabretooth you can feel that something's bad is gonna happen
During the “axis” story line Sabretooth along with some other villains had their morality flipped and become good guys as well some heroes turned more villainous. After some events everyone got flipped back except for Sabretooth and some other characters, so he was a hero for a while until his last bit of good ran out when sacrificed himself for the soul of his dead son Graydon. Wish they kept the hero version instead of returning him back.
@@alexferrana3979 Perro Celia Great That His Offspring Redeemed Him, that He broke the cycle of abuse that his father did and that his son did not suffer.
One of my favorite comics with Wolverine and Sabertooth is a poster comic. Half of the pages flip out into larger poster sized pages and the art style was amazing. After a massive fight leaves both bloody and battered, Sabertooth tell Wolverine if he lets him live then he'll hunt down and kill everyone he knows. Wolverine with Sabertooth pinned against the wall and his fist under his chin, Wolverine pops two claws and lobotomized Sabertooth. For several comics after that one Sabertooth was just a big dumb puppy kept in a jail cell that was more like a nature reserve like he was just another animal in a zoo
Marvel needs a new SuperVillain Team: Leader-Mr. Sinister; #2 & CFO- Archangel; Muscle-Juggernaut; V. Creed & Mystique as Lead Assassins; Destiny & Psylocke as scout/espionage team;
WHY NOT SHOWING THE ORIGINAL ORIGIN FROM SABRETOOTH !!! THE COMIC VERSION , THE 90'S ANIMATED SERIES! THE WOLVERINE MOVIE VERSION IS NOT THE ORIGINAL IS NOT PROPPER!!!!!
Sabertooth in the comics originally was not Wolverine's brother. Sabertooth believed he was Wolverine's father but then they had a DNA test proving that he wasn't related to Wolverine at all. But for years saber to have memories falsely implanted by The weapon x program showing that he is Wolverine's father. That is why he would punish Wolverine on his birthday because he used to punish Wolverine as a child on his birthday well he was believed to have punish Wolverine on his birthday but that never really happened again those were memory implants. I believe it was in Wolverine 42 or 43 where he revealed that he was Wolverine's father.
I don't care how much how many people like Liev Schreiber's Sabretooth and I really don't give a toss on how well he may have captured Sabretooth's "personality" (if you read about him in the comics Liev didn't really portray a faithful Sabretooth in fact...). I don't care about any of these. The character design he was given was appalling. Even deplorable like someone would say... LOL. It was the worst design they could've given Sabretooth. On top of that they came with with an even lamer story that made Wolverine and him brothers... They messed up Wolverine himself too by trying to replicate the character's hairdo from X-Men: Evolution which only ended up creating a very sissy look for Wolverine... LOL. Overall, the movie was bad and except some decently accomplished fight and action scenes this movie was far below average...
Sabretooth and Wolverine aren’t brothers,aren’t father and son,none of that. They just have a similar mutation. They left out that Sabretooth is a former partner of The Constrictor and used to partner with him against Luke Cage and Iron Fist.
@@benparrish672 it was scary to wake up to if I had a nightmare. But I had many Batman and Kiss posters with a bloody Gene Simmons too. Come to think of it I only had an Edsy Van Halen and Yngwie Malmsteen posters that were not scary.
I love Sabertooth. It’s so sad that he’s only in 2 of the X-men movies, and never in anything else except cartoons. He’s so cool and he’s so much like Wolverine, except of course being more bloodthirsty. On a scale of 1 to 10, (1 being a normal human, and 10 being Logan at his peak), I give Sabertooth’s healing power about a 7 or an 8.
X-Men Origins: Wolverine was a shit movie, but making Logan and Victor half brothers actually made sense and worked for their story and the film. It makes sense as to why their powers are so similar and gives a deeper meaning as to why Victor loved to torment Logan. Since he was so ruthless already, giving in to his wild side, tormenting his brother just suits his character. Plus the fact that he knows Wolverine can put up a fight and heal from whatever wounds he gets, it makes sense why he continues to attack him every year.
How could anyone forget the mutant massacre or the night he was locked in the x mansion with bishop beast iceman and jubilee who he stalked and in an alternate story managed to kill both bishop and beast and got himself brutally roasted and chopped up by lasers in the danger room
For the movie they decided to use Sabretooth instead of Dog actual brother me. Because of Sabretooth popularity and general audience wouldn't know who Dog is.
Everyone talks so much trash about X-men Origins. It was a good movie. I liked it back in 2009 and still love it now. It’s actually gotten better with age. Especially juxtaposed against a lot of modern stuff.
One key thing on Sabertooth's backstory that was left out on this video is that on the rising popularity of the character, it was considered to have Sabertooth be in fact Logan's father. For many issues on the Wolverine early comics, every time Sabertooth would appear to attack Logan one way or the other, they would argue about their "Father and Son" status. Logan always was doubtful of this but Sabertooth was completely full on board thinking that he was indeed was Logan's father, until Logan, SilverFox, Maverick, Sabertooth and others from the Weapon X program were compelled to return to the facilities and there they discovered all the experiments that all of them were subjected to. SilverFox believed that the false memories that they all were subjected to made even her past relationship with Logan a false memory but it was revealed that they really had been together and that Sabertooth did indeed attack her, even intimately to hurt Logan. Also it was confirmed that Logan and Victor were NOT Father and son at all, just that they have an almost identical mutation, which led to the whole Romulus story line about a mutant that had claws like both Wolverine and Sabertooth, and was supposedly older with a stronger Healing Factor than both of them. At some point even Victor was feeling overwhelmed by his Blood lust that he couldn't deal with himself. And For sometime, Sabertooth had a Telepath Mutant called Birdie that would help him control his ever increasing blood lust. After many missions, when he would return she would give him a sort of Telepathic "Fix" that would tone down his animalistic violent tendencies. This would allow him to function normally and even made him seem peaceful and functional, but in one mission, Birdie was shot and killed, and Victor though minimally distress, decided that he was already tired of the fix and in one point was considering offing Birdie himself, embracing his animal side. The Romulus character had claimed that in ancient times when Mutants were emerging, and Homosapiens had evolved to their present line, a deviation of the Canine Lupus line have had a similar evolution as primates and that all animalistic Mutants were descendants of this line. Characters like Logan, Victor, Feral, Wildchild, Sasquatch and the such. Supposedly Dark haired clans of the animalistic Mutants were always at war against the Light haired Clans, and this was so ingrained into their genes that the descendants of these clans would instinctually fight one another, as a way to justify Logan's and Victor's rivalry. That was also revealed to be a lie, but it was also revealed on key element to Sabertooth, and that was that he had been successfully cloned many times as well. This would show that his appearance in Iron Fist where in one issue he had been killed would turn out that that a Sabertooth was a clone. The revelation would also explain why in many appearances Sabertooth he looked different and also in some, like in his early Iron Fist appearance he sometimes didn't have claws nor a healing factor. Also Apocalypse had also killed a Sabertooth clone in a comic, and eventually Logan would too kill a Sabertooth clone that had eviscerated Feral with Silver Samurai's Katana that nullified the Healing Factor. Indeed, Sabertooth is a great character and a darker vision of Logan, had the latter would give into his own Blood Lust and animalistic mutation.
@@edwardbloecher4563 I think many of us were into the idea of them being father and son. Even presently, though knowing that they are not related, one could accept them actually have some sort of blood relation.
Sasquatch isint mutant and Claremont original plan was that Sabretooth with John Byrne costume was weaker clone and The one with Jim Lee costume was original.
@@kanukki84 All the same, in the Romulus storyline Sasquatch was also considered a descendant of this supposed line of Hominid Lupines, as well as any humanoid animalistic character, even the Wolf morphing Wolfsbane. Just look up the storyline...though as I said, it all was proven to be a lie from Romulus anyway.
@@EternalRoman they have lupine ancestry that's how their related their mutation is supposed to turn them into what wolfsbane feral sasquatch thornn wild child
When the MCU brings Wolverine I really hope they do Sabertooth justice and have him appear more frequently like Loki and maybe have him be a Villain in the beginning but then become more of an Anti Hero down the line and it’s a little dumb I know but have him and Wolverine be half brothers
I like how this video is read from wikipedia, Wolverine and sabertooth aren’t related…James Howlett is son to Thomas Logan and Elizabeth Howlett…Victor Creed is son to Zebidiah Creed and Victoria Creed. Sabertooth torments Wolverine because he kills his brother Saul Creed…everyone thinks they are brothers because Sabertooth looks exactly like Dog Logan son to Thomas Logan, who is wolverines half brother.
I hope they brought Victor from the Wolverine movie back for DP3 . Dude was the only good version of the character. And I like how he kept calling him Jimmy 😂.
Liev's sabretooth is probably one of the biggest dissapointments in comin book movie history.. absolute rubbish wheres the hair , size , animal like appearence .. they destroyed him
Ya'll didn't even read the comic that you referenced. Sabretooth didn't kill his older brother. His older brother had a weak healing factor and was ritualistically tortured by Sabretooth every year on his birthday, into his adulthood until he was killed by Wolverine. Hence why Sabretooth has the ritual with Wolverine and treats him like a pseudo brother in his own sick way
Still will never understand why they wouldn’t tap Triple H to play sabertooth. The guy is the living embodiment of the comic version. PS liev was azz 🥴😭
Sabretooth had also killed another mutant with similar powers: Feral! He not only killed Feral, but partially cannibalizes her, which caused Wolverine to decapitate him.
Saberthooth Isn't wolverine's blood brother or friend brother. In the early comics it was believed Sabertooth was wolverine's dad but that was a false implanted memory that sabertooth manipulated a memory losed logan with. Victor Creed has a brother named Saul Creed and a deformed sister named Clara Creed, wolverine took the place of his brother Saul creed's torment by victor victor creed after Logan killed Saul. the shitty Foxmen franchise took liberties of the comic source material and made it worst. They messed up wolverine origins by combing victor creed with James Howlett half brother Dog Logan, and took the run away story of james and his girlfriend/ adopted sister Rose running away from his families estate, after James mutant powers of a healing factor, practical immoratality of slow aging, animalistic senses, and forearm bone claws manifested from the trauma of John Howlett was killed by grounds keeper Thomas Logan and he killed his biological father Thomas scratching his brother Dog across the face and witnessing his mother Elizabeth Howlett commit suicide, dr Abraham Cornelius the professor whos responsible for the bonding process of lord dark wind yashida encasing adamantium to bone and brainwashing wolverine to be a killing machine is a relative of Elizabeth Howlett and he was no where on x men origins and replaced with William Stryker in the x2 xmen united days of future past mystique cameo xmen age of apocalypse who is just a evangelical revrend anti mutant biggot who leads a hate group malitia in god loves man kills and has nothing to do with weapons plus and John wraith replaced him in the ultimate universe of xmen weapon x story line.
I would have loved to see Liev or Leiv (I forgot how to spell his name) from origins in LA movies more as I loved him, very good but kinda creepy performance
It would be great if they got another shot at a live action movie. I would love to see them square off with the full potential of what those two are capable of. It'll never happen, sadly.
Their not brothers the real backstory from the comics is different sabertooth sister was dating Logan her younger brother attack wolverine so ofc Logan kill he’s ass, she left Logan and told sabertooth what happen so every year on he’s brothers birthday he attacks Logan.
They still haven't done a proper sabretooth. I remember the first xmen movie actually had someone who resembled Sabre too but than that Liev dude got the role and Butchered it. Sabretooth the wildest enemy of wolverine has not yet been portrayed as he was in the comic books.
The fox men lore doesn't deserve to be in this video they messed up the source material badly in these films sabertooth was killed off in a tie in comic they gave toad of all characters a better showing washing the x men when in the comics Toad's a straight jobber
I liked the idea of Logan and Victor being brothers in the Origins movie, even if the movie wasn’t so good. Jackman and Liev did a good job portraying them
He crawled his way out of hell. He was originally meant to be an irredeemable villain but he has done some unselfish things from time to time. He has layers
“ you didn’t come to warn me, you came to save your own ass…!”
They aren't brothers.
Sabretooth is one of the rawest most blood thirsty villains and Hollywood always screws him up. He needs his own r rated film for real!
Disney not going to allow it and fox messed up all the x men story lines powers and characterization
@@tyronleung5276 I wouldn't be so sure, with Disney being boycotted, they might not be left with no other choice, an r rating might be in order
@@damianprock1650 a r rating won't save it cause deadpool was a bussy popping dualogy and wolverine was a garbage movie from a garbage time line that they can't even accurately bring to movies cause they ain't got the rights to every marvel character and replaced wolverine with the made for xmen evolution o.c. gender swapped character x23
Liev was sold and intimidating as Sabertooth was the only good thing about the movie
@@tyronleung5276 I wouldn't be so sure, having X23 be Wolverine's daughter in *Logan* really put things into perspective for us, when Tchaka died in a fight with Ulysses Klaw, his son, Tchalla took his place as the Black Panther, I reckon the same can be said for Damian Wayne when his father, Bruce ends up killed by forces sent by Plankton
Kind of surprised you guys didn't mention the relationship with Sabretooth and Mystique.
Also surprising is the fact that despite both of them being mutants, their son was born human who ended up hating mutants, forming The Friends of Humanity.
You just wait til they join the Suicide Squad
Their son was in the X-Men cartoon; actually .
@@matthewschwartz6607 interesting
@@matthewschwartz6607 Yep
Because their son was born without mutant powers and deep-down he was envy for mutants because of their powers
In the movies Wolverine could beat Sabretooth but in the comics Sabretooth was always a step ahead and was always a Big Brother type villain...I actually likes the idea of them being related since their powers are so similar
Sabretooth has been one of my favorite Supervillains in Marvel Comics. He grew up in a Abusive childhood just like Wolverine did.
Wolverine actually grew up in an affluent family. His abusive life didn't start until after his biological father killed the man who was raising him in front of him
Wolverine actually grew up in an affluent family. His abusive life didn't start until after his biological father killed the man who was raising him in front of him
Liev’s performance in origins was so good! Hope they bring him back
I hope not. That Sabertooth was garbage
Dude was almost as bad the movie gtfoh 😂
He is going to be in Deadpool 3 I'm pretty sure.
Terrible sabretooth
The reason why Sabretooth is more "brutal" and aggressive than Wolverine is because Sabretooth never got the Adamantium infusion. Wolverine would be EXACTLY as savage as Sabretooth; however, since Wolverine got the Adamantium infusion attached to his bones, his body/healing factor are CONSTANTLY trying to fight it off (it is a foreign substance to his body). That fight going on within Wolverine was causing his body to focus on healing him, instead of focusing on his inherent feral instincts. However, since Sabretooth's body has nothing to fight, he becomes more and more feral as time goes on.
You see Sabretooth as a child, and he looks normal; just like Wolverine did. Then, you see them getting older, and Victor starts acting more aggressive (with the "attacking" the women during war-times). Logan wasn't as old as Victor, so he still had some time before Logan became as vicious as Victor. Then, Wolvarine got the Adamantium, and you can clearly see he remains just about the same from then on. But, if you look at Victor, he continues to further become more beast-like. Victor ends up growing longer K-9 teeth; longer hair; his hands becoming claws; his feet starting to look like paws; his eyes begin to lose their humanity.
That's why you don't see Sabretooth in the Logan movie. Sabretooth continued to get feral to the point where he couldn't control himself. He went "insane" and began killing indiscriminately. And, some "alphabet government agency" sent agents to kill him before he causes any more damage. Meanwhile, in the same movie, the doctor whom helped Logan told him that he had "something" inside him which was killing him. The funny thing is, the same Adamantium which was killing him NOW, was the same Adamantium which prevented him from going full-on feral beast mode. It was the Adamantium which was killing him, but it also helped him keep his humanity until the very end.
It's why X-23 is the best mix of both. Her claws are coated yet that's it. She's already just as dangerous as Creed due to the Trigger scent where she can wipe out a whole town like it's nothing. Only due to her own guilt from those events she isn't more feral. Yet she's still very young.
To further your point look at what happened to Logan when he got the metal ripped out
I hated how they messed with "hes gonna be Logans older half brother" to "jus kidding dog is a different person and he's human"
One version that's not often brought up is the age of apocalypse sabertooth, in an alternate timeline where apocalypses evil rules the world, even in a time were heroes like Hank McCoy are turned into twisted servents to him, in a twist that timelines Victor Creed stands with the resistance against apocalypse and shows his heroism, not just in figuring him, but being a father to Blink.
I loved this sabertooth, including when he continued his story with Blink across alternate realities in the Exiles comics.
Loved the him and wildchild relationship, and it still showed flashbacks of him and weapon x working black ops back in the day
@@reapersritehand Yeah, which suggests the path of evil he follows in the main 606 timeline was averted by the events of apocalypse rising to power, and Victor going down an entirely different path, instead of embracing apocalypses evil, he stood against it in the end siding with magneto.
That was because Sabretooth became popular in the 90's, and Age of Apocalypse gave a great long alt dystopian (What If? type) story. Plenty of role reversals. All while the characters struggled with what they were in essence. It was successful. Prime (back to 616) merged the personality types through the M'Kraan. Victor Creed as a character was able to be accepted by fans as potentially Heroic, and brought through rehab before the Phalanx Covenant.
Blink with Sabretooth was relatable like how Kitty Pryde had a Mentor/Caretaker in Wolverine.
It was just a great time. Later on, Exiles expanded on it with a lot of fun adventures.
@@memorydrain7806 yeah I know this version of Victor died in exiles comics 😔, but because its comics I like to hold out belief either he still exists in another alternative timeline or he'll come back to life one day, since you know, comics
Man I read that comic as a kid and loved that sabretooth. It was my first experience with alternate versions of characters and people and not blew my mind
Sabertooth, Mr. Sinister and Magneto... 3 of the greatest villains.
Not to be confused with most powerful/greatest powers.
And all originating from X-men.
Born in 84 & sharpened by 90's Edge; Sabretooth & Juggernaut were nigh-perfect X-Men SuperVillains.
Victor & Cain should always b Villains
Sabretooth is too hardcore for modern day comics and MCU. He can't be watered down, sissified, or made to push an agenda. Creed is cold. He kills and gets off on it.
Sup comics explained, i really like your work
Should see what he did in the new comic for Wolverines birthday.
Liev Schreiber was a great sabretooth I even liked the scene were Logan and sabretooth were tied up and he said to Logan wake me up when they finished shooting at us even the xmen 90’s cartoon version was awesome i was shocked they did a PDST episode of Sabretooth horrified of his past, were mystique and sabretooth partners at one stage correct me if I’m wrong
YEAH, Liev Schreiber's portrayal of Sabretooth is ASTONISHING!
Yes Liev Schreiber play sabertooth to perfection.
You're not wrong my guy *Sabertooth and Mystique* were getting it in so much that Sabertooth shot her club up. Then Mystique carried his offspring son to full term. She realized that their son is not a mutant and she dump him off. I can't remember what his first name is, but he does have Sabertooth's last name in Creed. I think he's like William Stryker and the Friends of Humanity zealots.
One more thing Liev Schreiber was great as Sabertooth arrogant, cocky and snarkey remarks. I believe they drew Liev Schreiber's face onto the current Sabertooth that's on lockdown in Krakcoa.
He sucked as Sabertooth
Jason Momoa would be a perfect cast for Sabretooth ....He basically looks like Victor Creed
Sabertooth in the 80s and 90s was savage as fuck
Victor Creed Sabretooth is one of the few "Street Level" Marvel Villains tht would almost undoubtedly defeat Batman in their 1st fight. If Batsy lives then Bruce attones.
He's not street level. He can take on a full super team. He's a solo tank. He's a bit above stree level.
Yes
Of course he would healing factor and brutal.
Batman is so freaking overrated lol Shit a regular thug can defeat Batman
@@sonicmoore6196 nah
YOU THOUGHT YOU AND YOUR PITIFUL X-MEN COULD STOP ME!!!!!!!
Loved the vid. Got my solo Sabretooth issues up to almost 40. Surprisingly, the only x- "villian" that even comes close in self titled books is Mags.
Sabretooth to Wolverine: COME GET ME, RUNT
Good video, but there are some flaws with what you've stated:
1. Wolverine and Sabretooth are NOT brothers in the mainline comics (Earth-616)
2. Wolverine Origin II mentions Creeds brother Saul and Clara (Saul ended up being killed by Logan in a scuffle and Clara cut all ties with Logan as a result)
3. Part of the reason Victor hates Logan so much is that Logan pretty much killed Saul, who was apparently Victor's punching bag and with him gone Victor pretty much desired a new one (And we all know who...)
Thank you
@@thompsonaaron83 No prob! :)
Guess nobody kills Saul but Victor
Didn't Victor kill Clara and eat her flesh
@@chrisedwards3214 No
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To be very clear though, in comic book canon, Logan and Sabertooth are not and have never been brothers. That was just Hollywood movie BS as usual.
They combined Victor Creed and Dog Logan on X-Men origins.
They need to get someone huge and imposing to play Sabertooth in his next movie appearance. The last time in a movie wasn’t convincing for me
Consider Logan is supposed to be 5'2 but Hugh Jackman is 6'0+ Liev was a good choice..
Saber tooth in the first X-men movie was as saber tooth should be, tall and brutish. Tyler mane is like 6’9 and he also plays Michael myers
AND, in various versions of the MCU, is His FATHER, SON, and HALF-BROTHER!!!...That's GROSS!!!
I prefer Sabertooth over wolverine
I hope the new version of the character gets Admantium claws like Wolverine does.
@@biguy617 back when I was reading them he hunted Wolverine because he hated that Logan had the admantium
@@thecartoonsthatmadeus4 he was jealous. He wanted the metal claws too.
This particular character.....is what any of us could hope for concerning ability as a human being. The difference being our healing, sensory & durability factors would be absolutely stellar surpassing what Logan presents for example.
They each have been insane not savage as killing or molestation of any sort for that matter is unnatural as instinct denotes hence their capacity being restricted by default instead of meek, mighty or each.
Research regenerative medicine, tamarind & martial artistry as well as vegan as vegan is all about 100% food/drink solely yet + spirituality.
I KNOW we can achieve such capacity per one of us. Intuition denotes it. To the beach bod.
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Sabertooth is wolverine’s number one villain in my opinion.
Sabretooth is such an interesting character. This video gave a basic history, but Creed is one of the most savage, terrifying and bloodthirsty characters marvel has. He terrorised the X men in the 90s and early 2000s. Shame he's been so dumbed down in recent years.
Good choice but I'm going to go with Omega Red.
Definitely needs his own series
Great video! I love Sabretooth. He's ruthless, and a great addition to Marvel. He's definitely part of the darker side of comics, and I love it.
Ps. Love the layout and format of the video. It was a fun watch.
I remember Sabretooth from the comics but what really took it is when he appeared in X-men the animated series. The way Wolverine reacted to just the smell of Sabretooth let's you know it's darker and alot more sinister between them.
You said Victor and Logan spent the next few centuries... bro, didn't you just say their lives together started in the mid 1800's?
And I thought Mystique was the only villain who wasn't created for the X-Men.
They both have a racist anti mutant human son friends of humanity leader graden creed
@@tyronleung5276 who in turn is the half brother to Nightcrawler.
@@rodgill9376 yep
I didn't know Jaws were located on the knuckles.
I hope they will make his rivalry with wolverine more recognized in mcu because we all know back in the day everytime logan can smell sabretooth you can feel that something's bad is gonna happen
During the “axis” story line Sabretooth along with some other villains had their morality flipped and become good guys as well some heroes turned more villainous. After some events everyone got flipped back except for Sabretooth and some other characters, so he was a hero for a while until his last bit of good ran out when sacrificed himself for the soul of his dead son Graydon. Wish they kept the hero version instead of returning him back.
I didn’t like that one. Sabretooth doesn’t work as anything other than a villain.
Heroes are as boring as white bread.
@@matthewschwartz6607 Agree. Sabretooth is a vicious murderer who enjoy mayhem and violence
@@alexferrana3979 Perro Celia Great That His Offspring Redeemed Him, that He broke the cycle of abuse that his father did and that his son did not suffer.
One of my favorite comics with Wolverine and Sabertooth is a poster comic. Half of the pages flip out into larger poster sized pages and the art style was amazing. After a massive fight leaves both bloody and battered, Sabertooth tell Wolverine if he lets him live then he'll hunt down and kill everyone he knows. Wolverine with Sabertooth pinned against the wall and his fist under his chin, Wolverine pops two claws and lobotomized Sabertooth. For several comics after that one Sabertooth was just a big dumb puppy kept in a jail cell that was more like a nature reserve like he was just another animal in a zoo
Sabretooth has a redemptive story arc in the "Age of Apocalyps" comic books.
Marvel needs a new SuperVillain Team: Leader-Mr. Sinister; #2 & CFO- Archangel; Muscle-Juggernaut; V. Creed & Mystique as Lead Assassins; Destiny & Psylocke as scout/espionage team;
WHY NOT SHOWING THE ORIGINAL ORIGIN FROM SABRETOOTH !!! THE COMIC VERSION , THE 90'S ANIMATED SERIES! THE WOLVERINE MOVIE VERSION IS NOT THE ORIGINAL IS NOT PROPPER!!!!!
Ryan Hurst would Rock as MCU’s Sabretooth
Sabertooth in the comics originally was not Wolverine's brother. Sabertooth believed he was Wolverine's father but then they had a DNA test proving that he wasn't related to Wolverine at all.
But for years saber to have memories falsely implanted by The weapon x program showing that he is Wolverine's father.
That is why he would punish Wolverine on his birthday because he used to punish Wolverine as a child on his birthday well he was believed to have punish Wolverine on his birthday but that never really happened again those were memory implants.
I believe it was in Wolverine 42 or 43 where he revealed that he was Wolverine's father.
I don't care how much how many people like Liev Schreiber's Sabretooth and I really don't give a toss on how well he may have captured Sabretooth's "personality" (if you read about him in the comics Liev didn't really portray a faithful Sabretooth in fact...). I don't care about any of these. The character design he was given was appalling. Even deplorable like someone would say... LOL. It was the worst design they could've given Sabretooth. On top of that they came with with an even lamer story that made Wolverine and him brothers... They messed up Wolverine himself too by trying to replicate the character's hairdo from X-Men: Evolution which only ended up creating a very sissy look for Wolverine... LOL. Overall, the movie was bad and except some decently accomplished fight and action scenes this movie was far below average...
Sabretooth and Wolverine aren’t brothers,aren’t father and son,none of that. They just have a similar mutation. They left out that Sabretooth is a former partner of The Constrictor and used to partner with him against Luke Cage and Iron Fist.
Yeah, didn’t Sabretooth just use that as a way to trick Wolverine? Did they even mention Graydon Creed in the movies?
I loved both Taylor Mane and Leib Shreibers movie adaptations of Saber Tooth
I love Sabertooth. I had a poster of him over my bed as a kid.
Tht seems odd & terrifying to wake up to. Coo tho. Victor Creed is a badass
I'd prefer to wake up seeing my 1st love, Rogue from X-Men TAS
One of the few Marvel characters who’s two live action iterations are both great
@@thedude8457 Liev was the truth!
@@benparrish672 it was scary to wake up to if I had a nightmare. But I had many Batman and Kiss posters with a bloody Gene Simmons too. Come to think of it I only had an Edsy Van Halen and Yngwie Malmsteen posters that were not scary.
This was poorly edited.
A guy fitting his description was accused of The Woodsburrow murders. 😂 😂 😂
you missed an importants detail. Victor origionally wanted revenge on Logan because Logan killed his brother. This happens in Origins II
Another marvellous video by Marvelous Videos
Liev's Sabertooth needs a film
I love Sabertooth. It’s so sad that he’s only in 2 of the X-men movies, and never in anything else except cartoons. He’s so cool and he’s so much like Wolverine, except of course being more bloodthirsty. On a scale of 1 to 10, (1 being a normal human, and 10 being Logan at his peak), I give Sabertooth’s healing power about a 7 or an 8.
My favorite X villain. He used to be so awesome before they made him a mindless animal.
X-Men Origins: Wolverine was a shit movie, but making Logan and Victor half brothers actually made sense and worked for their story and the film.
It makes sense as to why their powers are so similar and gives a deeper meaning as to why Victor loved to torment Logan. Since he was so ruthless already, giving in to his wild side, tormenting his brother just suits his character. Plus the fact that he knows Wolverine can put up a fight and heal from whatever wounds he gets, it makes sense why he continues to attack him every year.
He also was one of the members of the Mauraders that slaughtered the morlocks
How could anyone forget the mutant massacre or the night he was locked in the x mansion with bishop beast iceman and jubilee who he stalked and in an alternate story managed to kill both bishop and beast and got himself brutally roasted and chopped up by lasers in the danger room
@@tyronleung5276 the Whait if: Cat and mouse. Scary one.
@@dogalrorn yes
Although I absolutely adore leiv Schreiber I have to say that I liked the sabertooth variation from the original X-Men movies
Yeah, Tyler Mane gave us Sabretooth at his most savage
I hope Sabertooth appears in the insomniac Wolverine game! A brutal boss fight between Logan and Creed.
For the movie they decided to use Sabretooth instead of Dog actual brother me. Because of Sabretooth popularity and general audience wouldn't know who Dog is.
Also because Dog is really just a cheap powerless version of Sabretooth anyway
Sabertooth is my favorite villain for mutants
My top favorite villain
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Would love to see Sabretooth take on a Wendigo!
That's a real thing. Check out Sabretooth "open season" 4 issue mini-series.
Everyone talks so much trash about X-men Origins. It was a good movie. I liked it back in 2009 and still love it now. It’s actually gotten better with age. Especially juxtaposed against a lot of modern stuff.
One key thing on Sabertooth's backstory that was left out on this video is that on the rising popularity of the character, it was considered to have Sabertooth be in fact Logan's father. For many issues on the Wolverine early comics, every time Sabertooth would appear to attack Logan one way or the other, they would argue about their "Father and Son" status. Logan always was doubtful of this but Sabertooth was completely full on board thinking that he was indeed was Logan's father, until Logan, SilverFox, Maverick, Sabertooth and others from the Weapon X program were compelled to return to the facilities and there they discovered all the experiments that all of them were subjected to. SilverFox believed that the false memories that they all were subjected to made even her past relationship with Logan a false memory but it was revealed that they really had been together and that Sabertooth did indeed attack her, even intimately to hurt Logan. Also it was confirmed that Logan and Victor were NOT Father and son at all, just that they have an almost identical mutation, which led to the whole Romulus story line about a mutant that had claws like both Wolverine and Sabertooth, and was supposedly older with a stronger Healing Factor than both of them.
At some point even Victor was feeling overwhelmed by his Blood lust that he couldn't deal with himself. And For sometime, Sabertooth had a Telepath Mutant called Birdie that would help him control his ever increasing blood lust. After many missions, when he would return she would give him a sort of Telepathic "Fix" that would tone down his animalistic violent tendencies. This would allow him to function normally and even made him seem peaceful and functional, but in one mission, Birdie was shot and killed, and Victor though minimally distress, decided that he was already tired of the fix and in one point was considering offing Birdie himself, embracing his animal side.
The Romulus character had claimed that in ancient times when Mutants were emerging, and Homosapiens had evolved to their present line, a deviation of the Canine Lupus line have had a similar evolution as primates and that all animalistic Mutants were descendants of this line. Characters like Logan, Victor, Feral, Wildchild, Sasquatch and the such. Supposedly Dark haired clans of the animalistic Mutants were always at war against the Light haired Clans, and this was so ingrained into their genes that the descendants of these clans would instinctually fight one another, as a way to justify Logan's and Victor's rivalry. That was also revealed to be a lie, but it was also revealed on key element to Sabertooth, and that was that he had been successfully cloned many times as well. This would show that his appearance in Iron Fist where in one issue he had been killed would turn out that that a Sabertooth was a clone. The revelation would also explain why in many appearances Sabertooth he looked different and also in some, like in his early Iron Fist appearance he sometimes didn't have claws nor a healing factor. Also Apocalypse had also killed a Sabertooth clone in a comic, and eventually Logan would too kill a Sabertooth clone that had eviscerated Feral with Silver Samurai's Katana that nullified the Healing Factor.
Indeed, Sabertooth is a great character and a darker vision of Logan, had the latter would give into his own Blood Lust and animalistic mutation.
I remember that story arc. It was a fun little mystery though. Sure had me wondering lol.
@@edwardbloecher4563 I think many of us were into the idea of them being father and son. Even presently, though knowing that they are not related, one could accept them actually have some sort of blood relation.
Sasquatch isint mutant and Claremont original plan was that Sabretooth with John Byrne costume was weaker clone and The one with Jim Lee costume was original.
@@kanukki84 All the same, in the Romulus storyline Sasquatch was also considered a descendant of this supposed line of Hominid Lupines, as well as any humanoid animalistic character, even the Wolf morphing Wolfsbane. Just look up the storyline...though as I said, it all was proven to be a lie from Romulus anyway.
@@EternalRoman they have lupine ancestry that's how their related their mutation is supposed to turn them into what wolfsbane feral sasquatch thornn wild child
When the MCU brings Wolverine I really hope they do Sabertooth justice and have him appear more frequently like Loki and maybe have him be a Villain in the beginning but then become more of an Anti Hero down the line and it’s a little dumb I know but have him and Wolverine be half brothers
They won't cause he's a serial killing cannibal
I like how this video is read from wikipedia, Wolverine and sabertooth aren’t related…James Howlett is son to Thomas Logan and Elizabeth Howlett…Victor Creed is son to Zebidiah Creed and Victoria Creed. Sabertooth torments Wolverine because he kills his brother Saul Creed…everyone thinks they are brothers because Sabertooth looks exactly like Dog Logan son to Thomas Logan, who is wolverines half brother.
I hope they brought Victor from the Wolverine movie back for DP3 . Dude was the only good version of the character. And I like how he kept calling him Jimmy 😂.
Liev's sabretooth is probably one of the biggest dissapointments in comin book movie history.. absolute rubbish wheres the hair , size , animal like appearence .. they destroyed him
Ya'll didn't even read the comic that you referenced. Sabretooth didn't kill his older brother. His older brother had a weak healing factor and was ritualistically tortured by Sabretooth every year on his birthday, into his adulthood until he was killed by Wolverine. Hence why Sabretooth has the ritual with Wolverine and treats him like a pseudo brother in his own sick way
Still will never understand why they wouldn’t tap Triple H to play sabertooth. The guy is the living embodiment of the comic version. PS liev was azz 🥴😭
Sabretooth had also killed another mutant with similar powers: Feral! He not only killed Feral, but partially cannibalizes her, which caused Wolverine to decapitate him.
You missed loads of his past and his actual origin. You just focus on the movie
Saberthooth Isn't wolverine's blood brother or friend brother. In the early comics it was believed Sabertooth was wolverine's dad but that was a false implanted memory that sabertooth manipulated a memory losed logan with. Victor Creed has a brother named Saul Creed and a deformed sister named Clara Creed, wolverine took the place of his brother Saul creed's torment by victor victor creed after Logan killed Saul. the shitty Foxmen franchise took liberties of the comic source material and made it worst. They messed up wolverine origins by combing victor creed with James Howlett half brother Dog Logan, and took the run away story of james and his girlfriend/ adopted sister Rose running away from his families estate, after James mutant powers of a healing factor, practical immoratality of slow aging, animalistic senses, and forearm bone claws manifested from the trauma of John Howlett was killed by grounds keeper Thomas Logan and he killed his biological father Thomas scratching his brother Dog across the face and witnessing his mother Elizabeth Howlett commit suicide, dr Abraham Cornelius the professor whos responsible for the bonding process of lord dark wind yashida encasing adamantium to bone and brainwashing wolverine to be a killing machine is a relative of Elizabeth Howlett and he was no where on x men origins and replaced with William Stryker in the x2 xmen united days of future past mystique cameo xmen age of apocalypse who is just a evangelical revrend anti mutant biggot who leads a hate group malitia in god loves man kills and has nothing to do with weapons plus and John wraith replaced him in the ultimate universe of xmen weapon x story line.
Victor Creed The Brother Of Logan Jimmy Howett
From 1800 something, they spent the next few centuries? That would put them like 200 years into the future. A century is 100 years
Don't forget he was part of the First X-Men Movie too.
Wolverine vs Victor Creed in X-men orgins Wolverine was awesome 😎
I would have loved to see Liev or Leiv (I forgot how to spell his name) from origins in LA movies more as I loved him, very good but kinda creepy performance
It would be great if they got another shot at a live action movie. I would love to see them square off with the full potential of what those two are capable of. It'll never happen, sadly.
Nice 🙂
Their not brothers the real backstory from the comics is different sabertooth sister was dating Logan her younger brother attack wolverine so ofc Logan kill he’s ass, she left Logan and told sabertooth what happen so every year on he’s brothers birthday he attacks Logan.
Sabertooth finds Wolverine on his birthday every year just to fuck him up haha
Claws not jaw... someone needs to spell check your scripts. Plus they are not related, that was just the movie and one of the many lies Creed told.
Good video but the way you portray it, you're saying the movie continuity abd comic continuity are one in the same....which they aren't
All the more reason why Sabretooth should have been in the 2017 Logan movie
I've seen a few videos about Sabertooth. And this one is the best.
They still haven't done a proper sabretooth. I remember the first xmen movie actually had someone who resembled Sabre too but than that Liev dude got the role and Butchered it. Sabretooth the wildest enemy of wolverine has not yet been portrayed as he was in the comic books.
The fox men lore doesn't deserve to be in this video they messed up the source material badly in these films sabertooth was killed off in a tie in comic they gave toad of all characters a better showing washing the x men when in the comics Toad's a straight jobber
Sabretooth is definitely one of my favorite characters, dudes a real savage.
So Sabretooth is only Wolverine's brother in the movie?
Why does bro sound like Cleveland from family guys😂
Meaning no disresept, I have to say Liev Schreibers Sabertoorh makes that other one look like a yeti.
about a minute in asking for likes and subs (does it twice in one video) everyone should always dislike for that reason
I prefer the Sabretooth from the first X-Men movie
Who thinks Sabretooth would make a great horror movie villian?
I may be alone here but does anyone else hate Savertooth's original comic costume?
My favorite Sabretooth appearance is where he has a barfight with the Hulk, and the Hulk kicks the living daylights out of him. 😂
That was Grey Hulk, he beat his ass
When was this?
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They are not brothers in the main 616 comics continuity. Only in that terrible movie
6:40 deadpool was weapon 11, not weapon X (10). Logan was weapon X