Live Loops - Digging in and Composing on the Fly With 10.5's Flagship New Feature
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- Опубликовано: 17 май 2020
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Live Loops is Logic Pro X's flagship new feature from the 10.5 update. Learn everything you'll need to know for composing and performing on the fly: 
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“giving live loops a try” ? dude i’ve been praying for this feature to come! this opens up the ability to actually record your jam through your parts and make a song of it pretty easily and intuitive, this is a big day for logic users
Ive been having so much fun with this feature. Its very fast and intuitive for me and the way it handles loops is very slick.
Good little intro tutorial too but to be honest I think you are confusing people who haven’t used it yet by not concentrating more on the use of scenes (columns). The way you turn on and off loops from different scenes at the same time defeats the whole idea of scenes. If you decided you like a particular combination of loops you would make a new scene for that combination. That way when you go to commit to a song structure idea, or even while still experimenting, you play entire scenes in whatever order you like or are trying out.
So a scene (column) are in effect different parts of a song, or different ideas for parts. Bridge, bridge idea 2, verse one, outro, ect. You may then want to turn off or on some different loop cells from other scenes to experiment or for live performances but the whole idea of scenes is to help give structure and organisation to your work environment.
Now of course people can use this all however they want, ultimately there are no rules, but from a tutorial perspective I think the way you have dealt with it is a little confusing. Don’t get me wrong, your vids are generally super useful and very comprehensive and I’m a dedicated viewer of your channel.
And PS, Really good work by the Apple Logic team.
The way Logic handles and displays loops is the best in the biz at the moment, bravo Apple Team for bringing these tools to the masses at no additional upgrade costs unless you upgrade the Mac dongle!
My only complaint is that I can't seem to automate them. It'd be nice to have a scene play once and automatically play the next scene after one time through the loop. I remember being able to do this in abelton.
@@mrgrubbage519 and working with different tempos for live performance purpose
Matt Grubb agreed. To be able to simply program a list of scenes in the order you want is an update I’m sure will come at some point. It seems a no brainer and very useful. 🤞🏻🤞🏻 It is a fantastic start though. I’m having so much fun with it and it’s super easy and intuitive.
@@mrgrubbage519 you can technically automate the scenes but it's a bit of a workaround. I used the IAC bus and an external instrument to send midi back into logic and assigned those to the "previous scene" and "next scene" commands in the key commands editor. Tempo is also controllable if you use the special tempo fader in the environment, however it gets a bit funky if you start automating the tempo track or use a cycle range.
All in all, Live is still better in regards to tempo automation and scene automation imo.
I'm looking forward to future improvements and additions to the live loops area!
Wonderful Tutorial!! I look forward to the entire week of learning live loops and the other features. Music is not my primary income, so I don't have much time to spend on learning new features. Having it spelled out as simple and understanding as you make it saves me time. You're my go-to guy for Logic Pro X 10.5!!
Logic has been long overdue with a major upgrade, but 10.5 is great!
Thanks for the walkthrough and being a quick learner of Logic.
This is such a great Logic feature that's presented so well. Tons of new info presented, packed solid into a pro video. I use you as my reference. Bravo!
Thank you so much for putting together such a concise video. This is such great content!!!
Your videos are so simple and super clear! It inspires me to learn more about my tool and apply and practice it. Thank you so much! Keep it up man!
love these tutorials. they've got amazing tips
Great video as always Chris! Thank you so much!
Very cool, Sir! I'm digging the groove, as well!
Best explanation of this feature I've found. Thanks!
Thank you for this! I had been trying to use Live Loops like Ableton Session view and was getting frustrated. Onwards and upwards!
Thank you for creating this wonderful video!
Thank you SO MUCH for your expertise . You ROCK!!!
Best thing is you dont have to use it if you prefer using the conventional style of logic. So people don't need to get 'weirded out' as its great to have the option. Great vid. Thanks again
This is so awesome! Seriously! I'm mindblown! Thanks!
Saw the channel and instantly thumbs up
That was excellent. Thank you so much!
Thanks, Chris. Excellent video.
Awesome tutorial, I learned a lot!
great tutorial. More please!!!
Fantastic presentation - thanks 🙏🏻
Beautiful feature. Thanks for the video.
thank you for this overview!
Great tutorial!
Thanks for this!
Great tutorial, thanks!!
Thank you for a great video I love the presentation and the product I can’t wait to get it. If I can follow those guidelines in the video it would definitely help to great product.
Gotta get into this. Thanks.
Been waiting forever for this update, just wish it wouldn’t keep crashing on me every time I try to record into the live loop cells while the scene is playing 😪 hope they fix the bugs soon but everything else is 🔥
big thanks . how to handle or to create the loops while recording audio material ?
this is dope! thanks
hi, how did you create this lead syth thing at 7:43? what plugin or synthesizer? thank u!
dude! you are awesome!
Great video, I think I'll be upgrading just for this feature. Can you redo the video without the metronome clicks? :)
Thanks!
Nice man..Thank you
did you use Akai Apc Mini with these live loops grids? is there any settings file or install structure? Help meeeeeeeeeeeee... Thanks!
Amazing tutorial mate! Congratulations! It is possible when you map to trigger stop on a midi controller to let the scene or cell finish the loop instead stop immediatly? Can help how to do if it's possible?
Informative video.BTW did you compose that tune? I like this music, it grooves.
excellent dude
what's the best way to match the key of audio files? thx for the video too!!!
Great video! I still havnt updated from Logic 10.4.4😂
Do you know if you can rrcord FROM arrange view into a cell?If I have a cinematic cue and want to put it into one or multiple cells.Currently I do Bounce in place.
Thanks!
I'm having difficulty capturing the first recorded note which I believe is happening due to me playing it slightly early? Any tips on a way around this? Thanks for the vids btw
Is there a template for this new Live Loops anywhere? You know, something with all the pretty colours and arrangement stuff already sorted out? I looked at the ones provided on the Templates section in Logic and all of them are sample based only, whereas I was looking for something set up and optimized for midi instruments. I can build myself but curious if you know a source for something with Live Loops as the focus since its all so new to me. Thx
Hi there… First Up, THANK YOU for these xlnt tutorials.
Now… Got a question for you that i have not been able to find ANYWHERE… I have a gig coming up where i want to use Live Loops BUT i also need to be able to play some tracks that run all the way through the gig from the arrangement window.
My Problem is that if i select a Loop Scene it stops the track playing in the Arrangement view. This is REALLY tedious …
Is there a way to protect a track from switching to the LOOPS mode?
Hey Chris. Thanks for the introduction to Live Loops. Your videos are always so succinct and thoughtful. I have a few questions that I'm hoping you can answer. Google wasn't much help.
1. When using live loops, is it possible to play an entire track stack with only one click? For example, let's say I have a track stack of a drum machine and the individual instruments are nested beneath. Pressing play at the top level only plays that track but not all of the files underneath it. I'd like to be able to mix and match different cell stacks without having to select all of the nested instruments, if that's possible.
2. This next one is just weird. Whenever I drag a region from the Tracks Area into the Live Loops Grid, the cells copy over the region at half speed and with two instances in a row. I can go into the editor and cut the duration and tempo in half, but I'm wondering if there's a way to make it transfer correctly the first time.
that demo reminds of the native instruments expansion
thank you
Do you know if is possible to do hands free live looping with Logic, like in Ableton or Alk2? Programing before the record areas and tracks and effects
Nice!
CAN we use the sequencer or the launchpad with Logic plugin?
How do you re record over a cell though? It just keeps recordinginto arrangement view
Is there any reason you can think of why I cannot see the extract loops button after recording in something into a cell?.. it’s using my
MIDI keyboard
Does Live Looping replace Mainstge3 or will it be integrated?
Best DAW ever
When I try and trigger loops and play back the recorded section there is gaps and it’s all over the place. I’ve tried reset prefs change bars etc and it’s the same. Driving me nuts
Live loops comes with the theory that one can play their loops in variation through minimal tasks during live performances while simultaneously allowing for the recording of performances. How does this translate to a more traditional music producer who does not do live performances? Well this can be a useful tool to test a variety of sequences in orders that are easier to manipulate than the traditional shift + click or highlight region(s), copy and paste or option + click/drag selected regions. As shown in the video this can be very useful to add variety in ways one would normally not come up in the "traditional song writing within your DAWS capabilities sense" def will incorporate to future productions. Just tryna find the right work flow now
And it's great for jamming different ideas out!
this track sound really cool. where can i listen to your tunes?
I think these tunes are from a template
Great vid as always!
Do you know how to drag samples in from Splice and get samples with different tempos to sync to the project tempo? I saw a video somewhere that said this was possible, but I can't seem to make it happen. I can get them to sync and play in the grid view, but when actually recording the arrangement to the timeline, the sample reverts back to its original tempo.
Any help would be appreciated!! Thank you!
if you haven't already I suggest downloading the provided logic tutorial templates that explain the live loops from Apple themselves. It does cover somethings not mentioned in this video to include the queuing scenes features
Bambamsounds Beats Cool! I’ll try that. However, I was hoping to get an answer specifically about Splice samples, not Apple Loops. Apple Loops change automatically according to the tempo of the project. The problem I am having is with Splice samples.
Thank you for the answer!!
In logic if you go to File / Project settings / Smart tempo / Set Imported Audio files to. HEre you can put them on "ON" and then yr imported samples will be matched with the tempo of yr song
@@jasondunn5125 oh dude yeah with the update you can drag any loop in there bro. Splice included it will auto configure
Could you map each cell to a external trigger pad, like a Novation Launchpad?
I'd like to know that too 👍🏻
hi! what is the best midi controller for this Logic pro x 10.5,thank you!!
Sampler (Multiple)
Great tutorial
any idea why my loops are all out of time when i record them ? like , they are in time in the loop area , but when i record they appear to keep the same shape (1 bar etc.) but the loops are all different its driving me crazy
The same thing is happening to me.
J G just upgraded / wiped my comp too . and used low latency mode
I noticed that the color of all of your cells match your track header colors. I’m having an issue with mine. When I create a Pattern Cell, it always defaults to the same color, a sort of amber yellow? Is this happening to anyone else?
Do you have auto colour select turned on in preferences? I’d have to have a hunt to find its exact location but it’s there somewhere and may be the problem. 🤞🏻 it’s working fine for me. 🤷🏻♂️
so thought this might be a good place to ask ... I'm in middle of 10.4.8 trial and diggin' it ... i want to buy but I don't want to update to 10.5 ... what's the best way to do that? Gotta be possible yes? Then I'll update when I get a handle on what 10.5 does to 3rd party plugins, etc. I've already updated to Mojave ... Late 2012 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7 32 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 ... Many thanks ...
You should be able to add payment info and buy it when the trial ends on the current version you have. Just make sure auto updates are turned off
Is it possible to use a midi controller to change scenes and activate live recording to individual cells?
Would like to know this as well. The launchpad would be the obvious choice here.
Yes, Novation has announced support for a number of controllers with Logic. Here's a link. novationmusic.com/en/news/launchpad-logic-pro
i don't think the newest Lauchpad Pro MK3 is supported yet, but that could be just a matter of time. That's the one with the sequencer. Looke like all others are supported though.
Yes. Apple have designed this to be live as well as in the studio.
You can actually use ANY MIDI controller you have to play each Scene, I’ve done it
I looveee you channel
Please help me! 🙏
I couldn't record into the cell, and record to the regular arrangement at the same time (to mix after the jam)! How about you!?
This very cool, but I’m confused; 🤨 is there any way to use the loops you’ve created to complete a finished, linear, song without having to perform the loops live? Like how do you pre-plan which loops play when? 🧐
Just drag and drop into tracks view and you can move them around like usual. The live loop capture allows you to construct the arrangement on the fly, essentially like a DJ...
Right click each Scene and there’s an option to copy the entire Scene to the Main Window in one shot
Cool, thanks guys, I’ll try it. Although I’m an old linear tape kinda guy, I can see a cool use for these new features 🤓
Can Logic pro x new live loops feature be useful for life performing? also is it compatible with hardware such as ableton push etc. ?
Maybe not Push, but Novation has announced support for Logic with several of its controllers. As of now, the newest Launchpad Pro MK3 is not supported but that could change soon. Here's a link. novationmusic.com/en/news/launchpad-logic-pro
Absolutely. They make a point of saying it of a great live feature. It would be super fun to use live! I’ve played around in my studio and all I want to do is compose with it and take it out live playing. Super cool and so easy to use.
7:46 😆 💀
Thank you for teaching us the ropes of this dope as fuck update 👌🏼
I have input my tracks all recorded under one tempo into cells, and it all sounds out of sync, and abrupt
They kicked Ableton
Everyone cheering the live loops in the meanwhile 10.5 broke almost all multi-output plugins... no one is complaining? Why?
I can't open most of my projects now in 10.5 :-(
Because Apple made huge refactorings to a lot of modules to add this feature, so the authors of those plugins need to adjust their plugins to this version of the Logic.
@@c_saezm MDrummer was failing for me. Did a reinstall of the entire Melda bundle and my projects now open!... Oh my... use MDrummer on most of my tracks so that is a big relief... still don't know what happened but I'm not entirely sure it was related to the update. In hindsight it could have been a coincidence...
Only 20 years after Ableton Live! 😂
totallypixelated Logic can Ableton, but Ableton can’t Logic.
its complicated am not getting this live loop. its taking us back to 60s if you start recording and make mistake you repeat the whole song or pre arrange the classic way. and again many loops can make the song to be out of key. its good for making gaming sounds. Very few professional will be using it. i would love to hear a nice song made out of it. For me i draw my music cant play piano very hard to record those loops.
Normally I love your tutorials. With this one, however, I am lost at sea. I have no idea whatsoever what is going on here.
That's okay. I got lost about looping that first time as well. Just rewatch and try doing it yourself. You'll get the hang of it!
Try it yourself if you’ve upgraded. It’s super fun and very easy to use.
I think he trips himself up in this vid by not concentrating more on what Apple call scenes. They are the combination of all the loop cells in a column. You could think of each column as a part of a song, or an idea for a part, made up a a number of loops (called cells) that are in that column. By then clicking on the bottom of the column all those loops will start together.
Press the button at the bottom of another column and at the next bar that column will start playing.
You could think of each column this way. One might be intro. One might be intro idea 2, verse 1, bridge idea 3, chorus 1, chorus 2 etc etc
Within all that individual loops (cells) can be started and stoped as the that scene plays. This lets you experiment or tinker around while recording or use it live for a lot of freedom.
If you find a new combination of cells you enjoy together the easiest thing is to create a new scene (column).
Once you decide to like playing your scenes on a particular order you can then record that by playing it through (while in record) and it is recorded to the corresponding tracks in the traditional track view.
Hope this makes sense and helps get a handle on what’s going on.
Yeah appreciate your tutorials but this one seems meant for someone who already knows what they are doing.
You talk in 1.25x speed
Creativity is not dead. Not a fan.
Sooooo much technology nowadays, but oh boy, what dull boring, uninspired
Same sounding 'mmusic'
Live Loops is buggy as fuck to the point of being utterly useless. Loops do not continue in cycle play. They just cut out and refuse to play or play intermittently. Pure shit.
U talk so much.
I am soooo late to the party but this is awesome!!🤯🫠