Prosocial (Communal) Malignant Narcissist

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  • Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
  • 3 Types of Malignant Narcissist: Grandiose, Covert, Borderline parallels high-functioning, prosocial/communal, and low-functioning.
    Low-functioning malignant narcissist utterly dysfunctional while high-functioning malignant narcissist professionally functional and interpersonally dysfunctional.
    In low-functioning (borderline) malignant narcissist, human contact of any kind - from shopping to dating - triggers sadism, justified by grandiose contempt and haughtiness. The cumulative adverse outcomes are such that the malignant narcissist gradually drifts towards withdrawal and avoidance (schizoid behaviors) as a way to preserve ego syntony via alloplastic defenses ("I should waste my precious time and towering intellect").
    Prosocial (Communal) Narcissist able to function professionally and interpersonally within an in-group. Directs his psychopathy and sadism exclusively at the out-group. Always charismatic leader.
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    WATCH 3 Types of Malignant Narcissist: Grandiose, Covert, Borderline • 3 Types of Malignant N...
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    Otto F. Kernberg (2020) Malignant Narcissism and Large Group Regression, The Psychoanalytic Quarterly, 89:1, 1-24, January 2020
    DOI: 10.1080/00332828.2020.1685342 (doi.org/10.108...)
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Комментарии • 70

  • @chernagast6754
    @chernagast6754 2 месяца назад +88

    Oh look, you described the current American political season. I thoroughly enjoy your research and work, and even though I am a layperson in the world of psychology, I have learned a wealth of information from your lectures. Thank you very much for sharing your observations like this.

  • @bethmoore7722
    @bethmoore7722 2 месяца назад +52

    Having been in a cult in the 1970s, I appreciate this. You have described the leader of that cult perfectly.

    • @irenegronegger8972
      @irenegronegger8972 2 месяца назад +6

      Do you know Anke Richter? She is a journalist specialized in cults. It is about a wide range from strict religious cults to softer esoteric movements. She publishes mostly in Englisch. She is German, roundabout 60 years old and lives in New Zealand.

  • @desertlilly
    @desertlilly 2 месяца назад +53

    Perfectly describes my hellish workplace.

    • @ivodols9244
      @ivodols9244 2 месяца назад +6

      It perfectly describes my hellish volunteer workplace.

    • @PaulTenenbaum
      @PaulTenenbaum 2 месяца назад

      @@ivodols9244 Perfectly describes my last several workplaces.

    • @MrTergugah
      @MrTergugah 2 месяца назад

      Haha (nervous laugh)...Sounds like most of the human population in general... Dangerous Bonobo chimps running amok, as- per-usual...Don't think there's much hope left for us 😢

  • @GreyCat827
    @GreyCat827 2 месяца назад +22

    I like your humor. Thank you for this video.

  • @InvisibleWarrior279
    @InvisibleWarrior279 2 месяца назад +26

    I believe they are the biggest threat as well. I believe I have known two of these people. One was a “high school principal” who eventually got fired and kicked out of the teaching profession for using the “school” as his own personal piggy bank. And the other was the head of his professional “alternative medicine” organization for his country. These people are the very high level, socially entrenched, well disguised con artists; the true Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde personalities.

  • @oneononehundred3912
    @oneononehundred3912 2 месяца назад +32

    I would love to see an in depth video talk on the topic of BPD with HPD ASPD comorbidities, I have been in a long term relationship (now separated) with someone who exhibited these traits in the extreme and you have only one brief video on the topic from 6-years ago. I know it’s asking a lot but another video idea for the odd couples series or a new series on horror stories, with a male covert borderline (I exhibit these traits) would be very much welcomed. I hope you’ll consider this topic for a future video. I have learned a great deal from you Prof. Vaknin and for this I am eternally grateful. Thank You for sharing your incredible insights and knowledge.

    • @samvaknin
      @samvaknin  2 месяца назад +16

      Search the comorbidities playlist.

    • @reflux043
      @reflux043 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@samvaknin​​ At 2:02, if someone isn't narcissistic, can you feel this exact way (what you describe) after years of physical/domestic violence and emotional/narcissistic abuse?

  • @helenas7416
    @helenas7416 2 месяца назад +8

    Thank you so much for this stunningly powerful and simultaneously horrifying expose of the publicly smooth yet psychologically terrorising predators in our midst. One of your best videos. Thank you immensely.

  • @GreyCat827
    @GreyCat827 2 месяца назад +11

    Yes...the threat is very relevant today; particularly in a political arena such as in the United States. A new season of uncertainty is upon us. Thank you for your video.

  • @mariamelbay6735
    @mariamelbay6735 2 месяца назад +3

    Eindelijk, in de roos, cirkel voor mij compleet. Zeer inzichtelijk én de moeilijkste, de beste in zijn soort 😂 om tegen te strijden in deze maatschappij. Dankjewel en kijk uit naar meer sessies over dit thema

  • @christinec.2579
    @christinec.2579 2 месяца назад +16

    Great video through and through. Very informative and helpful. Thank you for your continued contributions

  • @deanadutcher5877
    @deanadutcher5877 10 дней назад +1

    You just described my husband without ever having met him.

  • @macnchessplz
    @macnchessplz 2 месяца назад +12

    Televangelists come to mind while listening to this (politicians as well).

  • @JavierMares
    @JavierMares 2 месяца назад +4

    Never enough! Thanks for the phenomenal video, sadly shorter than one would like, but then it's hard to complain with all the videos available. Wishing Prof Vaknin and everyone a great day.

  • @DilfuzaKHaydarova-e1p
    @DilfuzaKHaydarova-e1p 2 месяца назад +7

    Thank you so much Dear Sam Vaknin

  • @joshuabeldo2656
    @joshuabeldo2656 2 месяца назад +1

    Sam Vaknin was a beast,love your vids my man👁️🙏🏾😎

  • @virginiaceballos144
    @virginiaceballos144 2 месяца назад +6

    You described my ex in Israel …. He stole my money just with lies ….

  • @wendymerrillperry9699
    @wendymerrillperry9699 2 месяца назад +1

    Totally agree. Big threat. Thank you!

  • @andrehanekom5665
    @andrehanekom5665 2 месяца назад +5

    Good video doc

  • @someguy495
    @someguy495 2 месяца назад +9

    This describes me well

  • @yolizen9980
    @yolizen9980 2 месяца назад +23

    But then he doesn’t care about his followers

  • @29parallelnorth
    @29parallelnorth 2 месяца назад +5

    Oh, you know my ex that has had me as the respondent of his corrupt circus divorce with his ‘men’s only’ lawyer.

  • @AwhisperNth3wnd
    @AwhisperNth3wnd 2 месяца назад +10

    Isn't this also true of victims of narcissistic abuse. I mean if they were isolated away from friends, family and work. Wouldn't this make it difficult for a victim to reenter society and maintain functionality. At the same time would most likely be going through all the stages of grief.

    • @samvaknin
      @samvaknin  2 месяца назад +7

      Search the comorbidities playlist for CPTSD and watch the NA Healing playlist.

  • @1506magda1
    @1506magda1 2 месяца назад +12

    Profesor Vaknin, I assume that, as with every other type of narcissist, the best way to stay sane is to go no contact, am I right?
    Do prosocial narcissists ever hoover?

    • @samvaknin
      @samvaknin  2 месяца назад +15

      Yes and yes.

    • @1506magda1
      @1506magda1 2 месяца назад +6

      @@samvaknin Thank you

  • @femalemisanthrope
    @femalemisanthrope 2 месяца назад +1

    You described my mother (borderline Narcissist) 1:1

  • @music7433
    @music7433 2 месяца назад +2

    I see I am the communal malignant in/ group . My family , especially children , in forever, friends I. If loyal, others who demonstrate exceptional intellect adventure perspective. I do hold all others in contempt but I do t like that - what is the alternative .
    Anyways - having a meeting with my ex husband to exchange kids tmrw at Disney World. He is clearly a
    Malignant narcissist - ignores everyone (see our kids 10 to 0 days a year) but seems to be good at his job, shocked why kids are “alienated “
    How to deal? How to best not affect the kids ?

  • @KristaErrickson
    @KristaErrickson 2 месяца назад +1

    Low functioning malignant narcissist: Dostoyevsky's Underground Man? 🤔

  • @Somethingwentwrong777
    @Somethingwentwrong777 2 месяца назад +11

    Finally ❤bateman style

  • @elizabethsesso9356
    @elizabethsesso9356 2 месяца назад +6

    ..could be where the so-called mob mentality comes from..?...that is, mob mentality begins with this type of person...

    • @samvaknin
      @samvaknin  2 месяца назад +6

      Time to watch the video.

  • @caml2004
    @caml2004 2 месяца назад +1

    Is the insignificant other's recovery of the prosocial malignant narcissist abuse more prolonged due to the element of exclusion from the group which would activate a core feeling of being ostracized?

    • @samvaknin
      @samvaknin  2 месяца назад

      Yes, among other reasons. Also the feeling of menace is much heightened.

  • @FSMusic86
    @FSMusic86 2 месяца назад +7

    Thank you Prof. Vaknin. Can a covert malignant narcissist who is generally very insecure and rages at other people in front of her friends, for example when under influence of alcohol in pubs, and shows her true face, become a borderline malignant narcissist?

    • @samvaknin
      @samvaknin  2 месяца назад +5

      Yes. There is no type constancy.

    • @FSMusic86
      @FSMusic86 2 месяца назад

      @@samvaknin ah yes thank you I forgot

  • @carolmiles7474
    @carolmiles7474 2 месяца назад +32

    Age 78 always opening buisness going around the world, Nothing works he gets investors . .Then broke again ,leaves woman to do buisness pays no rent ,Illegal immigrant very good a conning people,

  • @Snorli77
    @Snorli77 2 месяца назад +3

    hey Sam! is it child abuse when a parent forces you to stay in another country but the child wants to go back to their home country? Best regards!

    • @samvaknin
      @samvaknin  2 месяца назад +6

      Children do not have the right to make such decisions.

  • @Mybloomingiris
    @Mybloomingiris 2 месяца назад +2

    Are there somatic narcissists who are prosocial covert malignant narcissists? I look forward to more videos on this topic!

  • @yolizen9980
    @yolizen9980 2 месяца назад +15

    So DJT

  • @deadwolf3607
    @deadwolf3607 2 месяца назад +5

    What makes a 20 yo man want to be with a 30-40 yo woman?
    Is it simply a maturity thing or is there something subconscious?

    • @carolmiles7474
      @carolmiles7474 2 месяца назад +1

      Money ,pays no rent .Or next to nothing .Maybe owns a house or her own flat etc check it out.deadwolf3607

    • @carolmiles7474
      @carolmiles7474 2 месяца назад +4

      @@deadwolf3607 probably owns flat car etc ,Better life for him . He will come back on and off.

    • @tittat9351
      @tittat9351 2 месяца назад +7

      Lack of options. No ladies in his age wants him so he goes older and older ladies are starting to date younger men because the men her age dont want her or they arent good enough for her. The older ladies are still thinking they are young and sexy. I know it sounds simplistic but this is the occams razor answer 😅

    • @deadwolf3607
      @deadwolf3607 2 месяца назад +5

      @@tittat9351
      Doesnt make sense, getting an older woman is much harder. Even couple of years older is almost impossible to see

    • @tittat9351
      @tittat9351 2 месяца назад +3

      @@deadwolf3607 Getting a lady these days is very hard, period.... unless you're a top guy so to speak. Say what you want about incels/blackpill/redpill/manosphere/etc but they are right. We live in different times now. Alot has changed.

  • @29parallelnorth
    @29parallelnorth 2 месяца назад +4

    I just had a vision 😳the next phase of all these RUclips narcissist gaslighter sociopath videos will be an emphasis on the victims that fall prey which will have (pronoun here) fall prey again after spending years healing. It’s all tragic. Let’s just stop talking about it to not feed the monster

    • @nyxcole9879
      @nyxcole9879 Месяц назад

      Who the hell are you to tell experts to stop giving information to survivors

  • @Lostsoul_111
    @Lostsoul_111 2 месяца назад +1

    😂 Oh no

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    @apubanerjee5496 2 месяца назад +4

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  • @KristaErrickson
    @KristaErrickson 2 месяца назад +12

    Or, MAGA.