I’ve been a film street photographer since 1998. This documentary confirmed why I will remain a film photographer for the next 30 years. Amazing documentary. Thank you so much.
Enjoyed this. The reason why I still shoot film. There is nothing like a feeling that's hard to walk away from. Thank you for the doc, and thank you, young people, for keeping it alive.
Love this doco so glad it popped up. I started my photography in the late 70s as a teenager my dad bought a camera took a shot of my sister and me then emptied some boxes under the stairs emerging later with a 10x8 print my mind was blown now 59 still working as a news photographer still my mind is blown I’m obsessed with photography digital is essential for my day job but I still shoot film initially for RUclips channel content but also now for pleasure using an old mechanical camera then developing the film is just enjoyable. If I had time and space I would complete the experience and set up a darkroom to relive the old days I’d just make sure to install an extraction fan this time. Thanks for posting this incredible documentary love it
I come from both worlds film and digital. I must say film was a prerequisite to better myself as a photographer. I agree with most of what this film represents but not all. My photography is not for everyone and not everyone is in flavor of my work. I do miss the darkroom days and hope to maybe re-enter the red light room someday. This video is an inspiration and has brought back so many good and fun memories.
I found this intensely moving because it tells a story beyond film. About observing life in its rich variety. So well caught and now I will send to many others. It inspired me to resurrect a Pentax film camera and start my first roll for many years. Thank you.
Wonderful documentary! Doesn't really change my mind why I shoot digital now. I've shot film for many years. Film is beautiful and digital isn't a dirty word. Looking forward to more of these documentaries!
Great documentary! Although I’ve been through that and will always say images shot on film stock will always look a bit more organic to my eyes, I can’t understand why people still use chemicals and all the waste it creates either it. It’s so unnecessary. I switch to digital in 2007 mostly for economic reasons. Buying 2 big packs of 20 rolls of slide film (what I shot exclusively) plus the Development costs was very expensive and the ratio of the keepers not satisfying. Digital took all that out and allowed for way more work without any additional costs. I can travel more and therefore photograph more. Digital opened so many doors no doubt and definitely made me achieve my goals but every time I switch the light table on and look at the old work I think , why did I moved ? When I then check online film stock prices of today I think immediately…..that’s way. Long life film though. I had my time with it that’s good enough for me. Generally absolutely beautiful to see so many young people getting into serious photography. Makes you see the world differently
As a long time photographer that started in film and moved to digital... Each type is a tool, each will take skill and vision to perfect and come up with worthy images. There is no silver bullet, pun intended...
35:00 He is right. Analog lovers cannot argue that digital is incapable of matching film colors and noise; software is really good at that. But digital CANNOT replicate the look you get on paper from chemical processes and darkroom optical printing. It's literally not digital.
I'll never get why people think that older technologies have to be automatically dumped just because new technologies come along, like some unwritten rule. People still like riding horses and coaches. Some own and drive Model Ts. Some like sailboats, etc. And newer technologies can enhance and even preserve old technologies. For example, digital technology has done a lot to clean up and save old photographs and movies. Analog and digital can indeed co-exist. BTW, I've read recently that there has been renewed interest in analog computing for some applications. Also, even older digital technologies are still around. The DOD still uses a FORTRAN computer program written back in the late 1950s. Jobs for being a data reel to reel tape librarian are still out there.
Do you use and drive a Ford Model T to go to work or travel? Just wondering... ;o) "People" do NOT "think that older technologies have to be automatically dumped", some do, some do not, some just use the most efficient tool at their disposal for their needs, don't you think?
@@BrunoChalifour Wow. So you really believe that most people don't think that old is automatically bad and obsolete? No, I don't drive a T. But my point wasn't that older technologies are necessarily "better". It wasn't a "mine is bigger than yours" argument. I was just saying that there are people out there who enjoy older technologies such as horseback riding or classic ICE vehicles. I just don't see the two as being mutually exclusive. Also, sailboating is still a big thing and has a heck of a lot of money tied up in it. In fact, some engineers are coming up with new designs for sail driven cargo ships. 35 mm and 8 mm film are still being manufactured and prints processed. Including slides. Last year for the first time in 30 years vinyl record sales overtook CD sales. Some people like joy riding in their Model T...or A...or 1968 Mustang, etc. Many more do so in their Tesla S. Really, what's the difference? Just the relative numbers. Still have a hammer? Screwdrivers? Notice that stores still sell tungsten filament incandescent light bulbs? Ever priced a brand new pre amp that uses vacuum tubes? Did you know that CRT color TVs are a hot item for video gamers? Again, I was talking about the general attitude of the public at large. I won't go the other way and attack something just because it's new, either. I think that having an increasingly greater number of technologies available to us as time goes on is pretty cool...the new along with the old.
Should not the magic lie in oneself, and whatever someone can do with their tools, whichever they are (and not in just the tools) as Bruce Gilden so aptly remarks at the end of this documentary?
I cut my teeth on film and rejected analog video like the plague. I developed still and motion picture film. It was fun. I had a great time. But I’m so glad there is a cheap way (I know, nobody likes hearing about money) to make images that are almost indistinguishable from film images. If you like loading magazines, dealing with chemistry, etc. I get it, it’s fun. But if you want to tell a story and not worry about money, we have the tools for that now and thank God. The makers of this documentary surely agree, otherwise they would have raised money to shoot this in Super 16. There is a place to appreciate and preserve old technology (my Eyemo and Bolex have a respected place on my shelf). There is excitement in reliving an old way of doing things, that’s why we have reenactors. But I don’t care to relive the financial stress of shooting film, freeing up that to focus on what matters: STORY.
I rather chew glass than go back to digital. And this is such a beautifully made documentary. I absolutely love it. I wonder though. Have any digital photographers converted because of it? I do hope so. I feel so sorry for these guys. Not all. But many are stuck in the false logic of convenience.
Coming from Bruce Gilden, I think it's rich... His images are really bad, 99% of the time. As Meyerowitz very well put it, "he is a bully" (meaning he just goes around, flashing people at close range with a distorting wide angle lens, with the probable intent of making them look as bad as possible).
Now it’s DSLR vs mirrorless and a lot of 10+ year old DSLRs keeping up and still outdoing some mirrorless in 2024. Eventually I think there will be a sought after nostalgia to the DSLR. I say this to say you don’t need the latest gear, stick to what feels good and perfect that!
Everyone has their, in most cases harsh opinion on the subject. This doc made me emotional. I only shoot digital these days simply because I'm broke and can't afford film. I have a plethora of lonely film cameras sitting in a closet. I remember when i could only shoot film because i couldn't afford digital lmao. Something about the tangible aspect has always drawn me to it. It could be nostalgia or just my love for making things with my hands whether it be wood working or playing an ancient guitar. My mother had a darkroom my entire childhood and I've had a camera in my hands since i was 8 or so. I really do miss shooting film so much. I don't think a proper digital 35mm equivalent sensor came out until i was 18 or 19 and they were ridiculous prices. First 1d was like 6 or $8k lol. Imagine how much this doc would cost today if shot on film compared to digital. There's a place for everything.
Watching this video & the music is just like ' the last hours before the sinking of the Titanic Cruise Ship', but I still admired creativity products of professional photographers everywhere around the world. We take pictures & videos on our smartphone because of personal ease & imagine you can keep record of your whole life events in just a few "Pendrive" devices.
u know i went to school for photography in the 90's when i was young and so was digital. but it was making in roads on film. i grew tired of trying to make a living shooting products to support my own photo work, which i felt that no matter how creative i or it was, i would then discover someone who had the same idea as me, but a little better, and maybe 10 or twenty years earlier. so i stopped. not shooting, but i moved to digital cause it was cheaper and less of a commitment. and i stopped trying to make a living in the commercial space, or trying to have a gallery career and moved to looking at images on a critical and historical basis for a living. then a couple years ago i realized i missed making images with film, so i decided to return to it thinking that maybe i could get some use out of my dusty old equipment, and i figured there would be some grumpy old guys still shooting, and i knew a few kids were doing it. but i could not imagine the amount of interest in film photography. it has been really refreshing to discover, even if it means i gotta pay more for old cameras that i think should be going for a lot less, and compete for gallery space with more attractive younger and more ironic people in their early twenties. it is nice to hear other people discuss why they use film. i thought maybe it was just nostalgia for me, or maybe something dealing with my fear of aging, but i never felt satisfied by a digital image the way i have been with something i shot and processed on film.
If I step into a gallery and all I see are people talking about film grain and imperfections then I am at the wrong exhibition (same goes for sharpness and perfection). It's cool if that is something people love but I am on Bruce's side on this. At the end it doesn't matter what you used it is how you used it.
Praising the analog for not being able to chimp, postponing review of the work in time so You're more strict and selective, honing the technique is cool and true, but You really can do all of that in digital just the same - it is just different kind of discipline.
For those that only know the digital version of photography, stepping into the analogue/film realm will improve your photographic skills and you will have a lot of fun with the process. However, if you grew up on film, then, as in my case, you might prefer digital. I try to retain some of the joy of the process by keeping the camera on 'single shot' mode, by using camera with lower mp count and limited low light capapability, by limiting my use of the review screen, by limiting myself to a small number of shots per outing, by not using any type of photoshop.
It doesn't say anything you could disagree with, but there's no technical info or overview about either film or digital. Lots of lovely images and people with cameras, and explaining why these photographers prefer film and its constraints which actually spur their creativity and art. Good, as far as it goes.
Great doc, but I'm so sick of analog photographers who feel like they have to sh*t on digital in order to praise digital. Those myths about quality have been debunked 100 times over. If you can't make good images with a tool that's on you, not the tool.
Yeah. As much as I enjoyed this doc, there were a lot of people talking as if digital cameras "force" you to shoot in a particular way. They don't. I agree with those who are tired of all the emphasis on sharpness and resolution etc, the tendency of many to want "flawless" images. You can get as much deliberate imperfection with digital as you can with film. The cameras are tools.
I agree. You should be able to speak about the benefits of your artistic method without denigrating another method. You don’t hear music fans justifying their love by slagging off cinema…
Did you watch it all the way through, lots of positive stuff about digital in this documentary and reasons why film is just a different practice to digital. I love digital it’s incredible these days but I love shooting film for my one reasons and 99% of my work is film.
15:18 is an example of why some people are suspicious and upset by "street photographers". Minding your own business and CLICK! For all that guy in the white shirt knows, CIA is tailing him out or some PI is stalking him for a client.
There is an unspoken alliance amongst these film photographers. For digital, clients have been trying lowball pay them cos digital is free. Film is money, development is expensive, photographers then make their fees go up for this "premium".
I miss somehow my darkroom , the analog cameras but on the other hand film has become to expensive. I had also to take care with developpers and so for allergic reactions. I don t go back to analog but still love the film look.
16:10 if you put black tape over the screen on a digital camera and shoot with memory card limited to about 200 Mb---BAM! it's just like an analog camera.
What Renaissance or Resergence is Popular Culture talking about? I have been a film photographer ever since 1990 & it is the only format that I have ever used & currently use. Also, I process, develop & print. Whenever I hear or read about this film Renaissance & Resurgence, it makes me think that the people or group promoting this assertion does not know much about Photography, a Medium that has been around for almost 200 years. Film is around & has always been around ever since the late part of the 19th Century. It seems like some people get this Pop-Cultural education of a Renaissance or Resurgence from Blue Check mark social-media famous photographers & stop there. No! This tangible format has been around. Yes, some films have been discontinued but we as veteran film photographers either Push or Pull Process the Film to get the latitude that past discontinued film speeds once gave to us. Please dump the gimmicks & actually get to know real veteran film photographers. There are no Classical Ancient Photographs because the Medium is a Modern visual world without a profound historical background.
To anyone who is complaining about the views in this video all I can say is that you are far too young to understand and most probably only used to Digital photography. Film photography is an entirely different world of photography far from Digital and organic.
This is all so romantic however the cost of film and developing has ruined the whole experience. I used to love shooting film but I am not going to spend a dollar or two per shot that's just outrageous.
If you think the price of film is ridiculous then you aren't a serious photographer. All serious creatives do what it takes. Drop the Starbucks and walk to work or the store instead of driving...in other words if it's important to you, you'll find a way. Otherwise you're just a hobbyist.
@@linjicakonikon7666I’m very intentional when shooting since only shooting film. I don’t just spray and pray. So for me film isn’t expensive at all. I also develop & scan myself. Considering the cost of a meal at a food court is $20, I feel like hours of enjoyment I get from a roll of film is very reasonable.
I was highly reluctant to go digital but once i did i have never yet since shot a roll. The only thing i miss about the film is its being at a premium and the inability to immediately review a shot (both of which caused me to appreciate the entire process, incl the image captured, much more.
For making a low budget video for RUclips digital is the obvious choice.For making a Hollywood movie there are still great directors like Nolan,Tarantino who prefer film.For making memorable photos for me film is the obvious choice.
This is gonna be controversial, but I think it's a little sad that a lot of the documentary was about photographers who not only embrace the imperfections of film, but actively look for them - as if they had some intrinsic value, or even create them, and also about photographers who, in my very subjective opinion, are not really good... There are wonderful and talented film photographers today, people like Laura E Partain, or Platon Antoniou, and there are "older" photographers who would have had a lot more to say about that wonderful analog medium than most of the ones in this video (people like David Burnett, or Don McCullin), and I think it's sad that they preferred to interview those artists that, in my very subjective and personal view, aren't really that good (Alec Soth and Andre Wagner are the rare exceptions). Yes, I'm one of those stubborn old farts that think that not everything should be called "art", that there is such a thing as objective beauty, and standards, and that not everyone who takes photographs is a photographer. That's why I completely disagree with what the guy from Lomo says at 42:58. People who throw paint on a canvas are not artists, they're con artists. They have managed to convince the world that what they do is art. It's not. Anyway. Don't get me wrong. I like grain, even heavy grain. I use a Sprocket Rocket, and a Kodak H35. I don't mind imperfections, at all. But I just don't shoot anything and everything, from the hip, after soaking my film in water, just for the sake of "experimenting". I still try to obtain a usable, decent photograph. Still an interesting documentary, and very well put together.
Haven’t been able to get hold of any Fuji film for over a year now, but it hasn’t stopped me. There’s still loads of other film, mainly Kodak. If Kodak packed up, then that would probably be the end, but that’s not likely to happen considering the demand.
the same problem is with music production and djing... technology and digital made it easy for almost everyone, but the quality isnt the same as on analog, and the skills and knowledge too, new generation cant handle analog, and they spit over it and over who use it just because they are not able... use real machines or play vinyls isnt the same then just press buttons on a pc or on a controller... digital ruined this world but slowly slowly people is starting to understand it and vinyls and real djs with real skills are starting to have their moment back
Yawn. This has all been done before. I shot film for 25 years and it was a pain in the neck. Digital was so liberating and I would never go back to film. When I shoot an event for a customer nowadays, they need a selection of images as soon as I get home and the balance within a day or two. How can I do that on Film? In Australia, a roll of 36 colour film is nearly $50. When you get that developed, scanned and some proofs, you are looking at just on $70. I shot an all day event recently in Western Australia. It was the Dragon Boat racing Nationals held at Champion Lakes, near Perth. I took over 2,000 images. At 70 bucks for 36, I'd be broke and out of work in the first week. When you shoot digital, you have to make sure you print your images and make photo books, something to hold and have a tactile outlet for your images. For me, that offsets any wild urge and craziness I'd ever have to return to film. Even the iconic Steve McCurry said he was very glad to see the end of film and has zero nostalgic feelings toward it. Like me, he was very glad when digital arrived.
I’ve been a film street photographer since 1998. This documentary confirmed why I will remain a film photographer for the next 30 years. Amazing documentary. Thank you so much.
Enjoyed this. The reason why I still shoot film. There is nothing like a feeling that's hard to walk away from. Thank you for the doc, and thank you, young people, for keeping it alive.
Love this doco so glad it popped up. I started my photography in the late 70s as a teenager my dad bought a camera took a shot of my sister and me then emptied some boxes under the stairs emerging later with a 10x8 print my mind was blown now 59 still working as a news photographer still my mind is blown I’m obsessed with photography digital is essential for my day job but I still shoot film initially for RUclips channel content but also now for pleasure using an old mechanical camera then developing the film is just enjoyable. If I had time and space I would complete the experience and set up a darkroom to relive the old days I’d just make sure to install an extraction fan this time. Thanks for posting this incredible documentary love it
Fantastic doc! Thanks for producing this wonderful piece of material !
I come from both worlds film and digital. I must say film was a prerequisite to better myself as a photographer. I agree with most of what this film represents but not all. My photography is not for everyone and not everyone is in flavor of my work. I do miss the darkroom days and hope to maybe re-enter the red light room someday. This video is an inspiration and has brought back so many good and fun memories.
Nice, enjoyed watching this.
This was a magnum opus type labor of love documentary on shooting analog. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
I found this intensely moving because it tells a story beyond film. About observing life in its rich variety. So well caught and now I will send to many others. It inspired me to resurrect a Pentax film camera and start my first roll for many years. Thank you.
Wonderful documentary! Doesn't really change my mind why I shoot digital now. I've shot film for many years. Film is beautiful and digital isn't a dirty word. Looking forward to more of these documentaries!
How does something this good only have 1k likes! Always great to see the faces of the people who continue to keep film alive!
Viva analogue photography! Great documentary! Thank you!!
This documentary brought up so many emotions and a clear understanding as to why film works best for me.
Excellent documentary! Entertaining, educational, and engaging.
Great documentary!
Although I’ve been through that and will always say images shot on film stock will always look a bit more organic to my eyes, I can’t understand why people still use chemicals and all the waste it creates either it. It’s so unnecessary.
I switch to digital in 2007 mostly for economic reasons.
Buying 2 big packs of 20 rolls of slide film (what I shot exclusively) plus the Development costs was very expensive and the ratio of the keepers not satisfying. Digital took all that out and allowed for way more work without any additional costs. I can travel more and therefore photograph more. Digital opened so many doors no doubt and definitely made me achieve my goals but every time I switch the light table on and look at the old work I think , why did I moved ?
When I then check online film stock prices of today I think immediately…..that’s way. Long life film though. I had my time with it that’s good enough for me. Generally absolutely beautiful to see so many young people getting into serious photography. Makes you see the world differently
Encapsulated all that Analog/Film Photography embodies: Presence and Grit.
As a long time photographer that started in film and moved to digital... Each type is a tool, each will take skill and vision to perfect and come up with worthy images. There is no silver bullet, pun intended...
I love this film very deeply. Thank you so much for making this!!!
This was absolutely incredible!
35:00 He is right. Analog lovers cannot argue that digital is incapable of matching film colors and noise; software is really good at that. But digital CANNOT replicate the look you get on paper from chemical processes and darkroom optical printing. It's literally not digital.
I'll never get why people think that older technologies have to be automatically dumped just because new technologies come along, like some unwritten rule.
People still like riding horses and coaches. Some own and drive Model Ts. Some like sailboats, etc.
And newer technologies can enhance and even preserve old technologies. For example, digital technology has done a lot to clean up and save old photographs and movies. Analog and digital can indeed co-exist.
BTW, I've read recently that there has been renewed interest in analog computing for some applications. Also, even older digital technologies are still around. The DOD still uses a FORTRAN computer program written back in the late 1950s. Jobs for being a data reel to reel tape librarian are still out there.
Do you use and drive a Ford Model T to go to work or travel? Just wondering... ;o) "People" do NOT "think that older technologies have to be automatically dumped", some do, some do not, some just use the most efficient tool at their disposal for their needs, don't you think?
@@BrunoChalifour Wow. So you really believe that most people don't think that old is automatically bad and obsolete?
No, I don't drive a T. But my point wasn't that older technologies are necessarily "better". It wasn't a "mine is bigger than yours" argument. I was just saying that there are people out there who enjoy older technologies such as horseback riding or classic ICE vehicles. I just don't see the two as being mutually exclusive.
Also, sailboating is still a big thing and has a heck of a lot of money tied up in it. In fact, some engineers are coming up with new designs for sail driven cargo ships.
35 mm and 8 mm film are still being manufactured and prints processed. Including slides. Last year for the first time in 30 years vinyl record sales overtook CD sales.
Some people like joy riding in their Model T...or A...or 1968 Mustang, etc. Many more do so in their Tesla S. Really, what's the difference? Just the relative numbers.
Still have a hammer? Screwdrivers? Notice that stores still sell tungsten filament incandescent light bulbs? Ever priced a brand new pre amp that uses vacuum tubes? Did you know that CRT color TVs are a hot item for video gamers?
Again, I was talking about the general attitude of the public at large. I won't go the other way and attack something just because it's new, either. I think that having an increasingly greater number of technologies available to us as time goes on is pretty cool...the new along with the old.
Being forced to work within the limitations of the film is where the magic lies.
Should not the magic lie in oneself, and whatever someone can do with their tools, whichever they are (and not in just the tools) as Bruce Gilden so aptly remarks at the end of this documentary?
Keep pumping out great content 👌
"I have more film in my fridge than food", love that line (Driely Carter)
Especially likely in a darkroom, not so much in her home possibly. Context is everything.
I cut my teeth on film and rejected analog video like the plague. I developed still and motion picture film. It was fun. I had a great time. But I’m so glad there is a cheap way (I know, nobody likes hearing about money) to make images that are almost indistinguishable from film images. If you like loading magazines, dealing with chemistry, etc. I get it, it’s fun. But if you want to tell a story and not worry about money, we have the tools for that now and thank God. The makers of this documentary surely agree, otherwise they would have raised money to shoot this in Super 16. There is a place to appreciate and preserve old technology (my Eyemo and Bolex have a respected place on my shelf). There is excitement in reliving an old way of doing things, that’s why we have reenactors. But I don’t care to relive the financial stress of shooting film, freeing up that to focus on what matters: STORY.
I rather chew glass than go back to digital. And this is such a beautifully made documentary. I absolutely love it. I wonder though. Have any digital photographers converted because of it? I do hope so. I feel so sorry for these guys. Not all. But many are stuck in the false logic of convenience.
“Because life is not made of 1’s and 0’s”-Carmencita Film Lab
Very Well..Wonderful
❤❤❤in love with this documentary
51:25 - "What always concerned me was the photograph. I don't give a shit about anything else, I care about the photograph." ahaha legend
Coming from Bruce Gilden, I think it's rich... His images are really bad, 99% of the time. As Meyerowitz very well put it, "he is a bully" (meaning he just goes around, flashing people at close range with a distorting wide angle lens, with the probable intent of making them look as bad as possible).
Amazing film! Thank you!!
Now it’s DSLR vs mirrorless and a lot of 10+ year old DSLRs keeping up and still outdoing some mirrorless in 2024. Eventually I think there will be a sought after nostalgia to the DSLR. I say this to say you don’t need the latest gear, stick to what feels good and perfect that!
So true I have and use many cameras but one digital I really love is a Fuji Xpro2 love that thing
I never stopped shooting film, but I don't have a darkroom anymore and I really miss it!
Such a great video! Great work guys! I love that I found film 4 years ago , don’t see myself slowing down using it anytime soon.
Everyone has their, in most cases harsh opinion on the subject. This doc made me emotional. I only shoot digital these days simply because I'm broke and can't afford film. I have a plethora of lonely film cameras sitting in a closet. I remember when i could only shoot film because i couldn't afford digital lmao. Something about the tangible aspect has always drawn me to it. It could be nostalgia or just my love for making things with my hands whether it be wood working or playing an ancient guitar. My mother had a darkroom my entire childhood and I've had a camera in my hands since i was 8 or so. I really do miss shooting film so much. I don't think a proper digital 35mm equivalent sensor came out until i was 18 or 19 and they were ridiculous prices. First 1d was like 6 or $8k lol. Imagine how much this doc would cost today if shot on film compared to digital. There's a place for everything.
Good digital cameras are very expensive.
Watching this video & the music is just like ' the last hours before the sinking of the Titanic Cruise Ship', but I still admired creativity products of professional photographers everywhere around the world. We take pictures & videos on our smartphone because of personal ease & imagine you can keep record of your whole life events in just a few "Pendrive" devices.
Keep pumping out great content 👌
BEAUTIFUL...
Such a good video
u know i went to school for photography in the 90's when i was young and so was digital. but it was making in roads on film. i grew tired of trying to make a living shooting products to support my own photo work, which i felt that no matter how creative i or it was, i would then discover someone who had the same idea as me, but a little better, and maybe 10 or twenty years earlier. so i stopped. not shooting, but i moved to digital cause it was cheaper and less of a commitment. and i stopped trying to make a living in the commercial space, or trying to have a gallery career and moved to looking at images on a critical and historical basis for a living. then a couple years ago i realized i missed making images with film, so i decided to return to it thinking that maybe i could get some use out of my dusty old equipment, and i figured there would be some grumpy old guys still shooting, and i knew a few kids were doing it. but i could not imagine the amount of interest in film photography. it has been really refreshing to discover, even if it means i gotta pay more for old cameras that i think should be going for a lot less, and compete for gallery space with more attractive younger and more ironic people in their early twenties. it is nice to hear other people discuss why they use film. i thought maybe it was just nostalgia for me, or maybe something dealing with my fear of aging, but i never felt satisfied by a digital image the way i have been with something i shot and processed on film.
If I step into a gallery and all I see are people talking about film grain and imperfections then I am at the wrong exhibition (same goes for sharpness and perfection). It's cool if that is something people love but I am on Bruce's side on this. At the end it doesn't matter what you used it is how you used it.
i needed this so bad rn.
This was much needed.
I'm surprised Michael Raso from Film Photography Project wasnt in this documentary. The film resurrgence started with Michael and the FPP.
Praising the analog for not being able to chimp, postponing review of the work in time so You're more strict and selective, honing the technique is cool and true, but You really can do all of that in digital just the same - it is just different kind of discipline.
Wonderful documentary!
For those that only know the digital version of photography, stepping into the analogue/film realm will improve your photographic skills and you will have a lot of fun with the process.
However, if you grew up on film, then, as in my case, you might prefer digital.
I try to retain some of the joy of the process by keeping the camera on 'single shot' mode, by using camera with lower mp count and limited low light capapability, by limiting my use of the review screen, by limiting myself to a small number of shots per outing, by not using any type of photoshop.
Great documentary.
Use the force! Use film!
It doesn't say anything you could disagree with, but there's no technical info or overview about either film or digital. Lots of lovely images and people with cameras, and explaining why these photographers prefer film and its constraints which actually spur their creativity and art. Good, as far as it goes.
Great doc, but I'm so sick of analog photographers who feel like they have to sh*t on digital in order to praise digital. Those myths about quality have been debunked 100 times over. If you can't make good images with a tool that's on you, not the tool.
Yeah. As much as I enjoyed this doc, there were a lot of people talking as if digital cameras "force" you to shoot in a particular way. They don't. I agree with those who are tired of all the emphasis on sharpness and resolution etc, the tendency of many to want "flawless" images. You can get as much deliberate imperfection with digital as you can with film. The cameras are tools.
I agree with you except for the part where you say great doc because I think it was a waste of energy
I agree. You should be able to speak about the benefits of your artistic method without denigrating another method. You don’t hear music fans justifying their love by slagging off cinema…
Did you watch it all the way through, lots of positive stuff about digital in this documentary and reasons why film is just a different practice to digital.
I love digital it’s incredible these days but I love shooting film for my one reasons and 99% of my work is film.
15:18 is an example of why some people are suspicious and upset by "street photographers". Minding your own business and CLICK!
For all that guy in the white shirt knows, CIA is tailing him out or some PI is stalking him for a client.
There is an unspoken alliance amongst these film photographers. For digital, clients have been trying lowball pay them cos digital is free. Film is money, development is expensive, photographers then make their fees go up for this "premium".
I miss somehow my darkroom , the analog cameras but on the other hand film has become to expensive. I had also to take care with developpers and so for allergic reactions. I don t go back to analog but still love the film look.
I live in a poor coutry and I just can't afford shoot on film...I do shoot on film but I have to train myself on Digital...
16:10 if you put black tape over the screen on a digital camera and shoot with memory card limited to about 200 Mb---BAM! it's just like an analog camera.
Large format film is not outdated. Show me a remotely affordable 4x5 digital back. For some work, I need camera movements.
I only shoot ISO 25600 and up. Gives my digital pix that gritty look.
Square grit, not rounded irregular grit. There's a difference. Film has grain. Digital has noise .
@@linjicakonikon7666 noise is life
What Renaissance or Resergence is Popular Culture talking about?
I have been a film photographer ever since 1990 & it is the only format that I have ever used & currently use.
Also, I process, develop & print. Whenever I hear or read about this film Renaissance & Resurgence, it makes me think that the people or group promoting this assertion does not know much about Photography, a Medium that has been around for almost 200 years.
Film is around & has always been around ever since the late part of the 19th Century.
It seems like some people get this Pop-Cultural education of a Renaissance or Resurgence from Blue Check mark social-media famous photographers & stop there. No! This tangible format has been around. Yes, some films have been discontinued but we as veteran film photographers either Push or Pull Process the Film to get the latitude that past discontinued film speeds once gave to us.
Please dump the gimmicks & actually get to know real veteran film photographers.
There are no Classical Ancient Photographs because the Medium is a Modern visual world without a profound historical background.
bingo !
@@spoken2good day & thank you.
To anyone who is complaining about the views in this video all I can say is that you are far too young to understand and most probably only used to Digital photography. Film photography is an entirely different world of photography far from Digital and organic.
This is all so romantic however the cost of film and developing has ruined the whole experience. I used to love shooting film but I am not going to spend a dollar or two per shot that's just outrageous.
If you think the price of film is ridiculous then you aren't a serious photographer. All serious creatives do what it takes. Drop the Starbucks and walk to work or the store instead of driving...in other words if it's important to you, you'll find a way. Otherwise you're just a hobbyist.
@@linjicakonikon7666I’m very intentional when shooting since only shooting film. I don’t just spray and pray. So for me film isn’t expensive at all. I also develop & scan myself. Considering the cost of a meal at a food court is $20, I feel like hours of enjoyment I get from a roll of film is very reasonable.
I bulk roll film and develop at home, mixing the chemistry from raw. It keeps costs down.
I'm an analog 35mm film wedding photographer. Keep me in mind.
I was highly reluctant to go digital but once i did i have never yet since shot a roll.
The only thing i miss about the film is its being at a premium and the inability to immediately review a shot (both of which caused me to appreciate the entire process, incl the image captured, much more.
عندما تلقيت جمال الواقع اختفت كثير امور عنما نتاخر نعتقد اننا متقدمون يصبح الجمال اكثر تركيب يصبح الغباء احسن في عبارتي
The irony: wasn’t this movie shot digitally?
For making a low budget video for RUclips digital is the obvious choice.For making a Hollywood movie there are still great directors like Nolan,Tarantino who prefer film.For making memorable photos for me film is the obvious choice.
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digital is as artificial as film. film is as real as digital. films expensive haha
This is gonna be controversial, but I think it's a little sad that a lot of the documentary was about photographers who not only embrace the imperfections of film, but actively look for them - as if they had some intrinsic value, or even create them, and also about photographers who, in my very subjective opinion, are not really good... There are wonderful and talented film photographers today, people like Laura E Partain, or Platon Antoniou, and there are "older" photographers who would have had a lot more to say about that wonderful analog medium than most of the ones in this video (people like David Burnett, or Don McCullin), and I think it's sad that they preferred to interview those artists that, in my very subjective and personal view, aren't really that good (Alec Soth and Andre Wagner are the rare exceptions). Yes, I'm one of those stubborn old farts that think that not everything should be called "art", that there is such a thing as objective beauty, and standards, and that not everyone who takes photographs is a photographer. That's why I completely disagree with what the guy from Lomo says at 42:58. People who throw paint on a canvas are not artists, they're con artists. They have managed to convince the world that what they do is art. It's not. Anyway.
Don't get me wrong. I like grain, even heavy grain. I use a Sprocket Rocket, and a Kodak H35. I don't mind imperfections, at all. But I just don't shoot anything and everything, from the hip, after soaking my film in water, just for the sake of "experimenting". I still try to obtain a usable, decent photograph.
Still an interesting documentary, and very well put together.
Sadly fujifilm just backed out
Haven’t been able to get hold of any Fuji film for over a year now, but it hasn’t stopped me. There’s still loads of other film, mainly Kodak. If Kodak packed up, then that would probably be the end, but that’s not likely to happen considering the demand.
the same problem is with music production and djing... technology and digital made it easy for almost everyone, but the quality isnt the same as on analog, and the skills and knowledge too, new generation cant handle analog, and they spit over it and over who use it just because they are not able... use real machines or play vinyls isnt the same then just press buttons on a pc or on a controller... digital ruined this world but slowly slowly people is starting to understand it and vinyls and real djs with real skills are starting to have their moment back
Yawn. This has all been done before. I shot film for 25 years and it was a pain in the neck. Digital was so liberating and I would never go back to film. When I shoot an event for a customer nowadays, they need a selection of images as soon as I get home and the balance within a day or two. How can I do that on Film? In Australia, a roll of 36 colour film is nearly $50. When you get that developed, scanned and some proofs, you are looking at just on $70. I shot an all day event recently in Western Australia. It was the Dragon Boat racing Nationals held at Champion Lakes, near Perth. I took over 2,000 images. At 70 bucks for 36, I'd be broke and out of work in the first week. When you shoot digital, you have to make sure you print your images and make photo books, something to hold and have a tactile outlet for your images. For me, that offsets any wild urge and craziness I'd ever have to return to film. Even the iconic Steve McCurry said he was very glad to see the end of film and has zero nostalgic feelings toward it. Like me, he was very glad when digital arrived.
Consider this: nobody is saying you should use film for that. Photography is more than shooting events, and you should use the right tool for the job.
That french dude is so arrogant (the accent doesn't help either) :p
analog is socialist, digital is capitalist , i am photographer too,
Ok, obviously using film is not really about creating images but waisting time with an exotic hobby explained with idiotic pseudo philosophy