A common trick I use to help with a low compression engine to see how it runs. I use some oil on the piston. Pour it down the spark plus take up extra ring spacing. Smoky but works
yeppers thats how I would always tell if I had a ring issue or a valve issue... ring issue id see great increase in compression.. valve issue id see minimal increase
you could try adding fiberglass fibers to the cement for strength. it also takes about a week for concrete to hit half strength and a month for full strength. I also think you'd be better off trying to cut the ring grooves rather than molding them
EXACTLY! The comment said "reinforced concrete" not normal cheap stuff. They didn't even do the suggestion right. This needs to be redone correctly with a fiber-reinforced concrete such as Fibercrete.
Try some type of "ironwood". I built a deck out of Ipe. Pain in the ass to work with. You have to pre drill every hole with special bits then buy non standard decking screws or both will just snap.
Lol real science was making them out of light weight aluminum and realizing they last for thousands of hours. This is literally going backwards. My 10 year old saw this and said that wouldn't last at all. I hugged him and told him how proud I was to have so much common sense at a young age like we did generations ago !!!
A little fibermesh 150 would have helped too. Not as much as actually waiting for it to cure but had they actually done so, the fibermesh instead of the lint trap or whatever would have been a big help
The rocks are mostly just to make it cheaper you'll hear that 95% of the time from the owners I've been laying concrete for 27 years now and I've heard them say that to the customers lmfao 😂@@allenrhodes
Really great. Loved it. Back to screwing around like the early videos. Been a fan since the yz. This is great. I would love a 110 tee shirt about a concert piston.
i was trying to think of ideas for you. making a fiberglass piston maybe...but i think itd be similar to the 3d one. 🤔 however. maybe making one of denim? ive seen some other stuff being made of that recently. another thought. maybe try a plastic piston again. but try and make the top of the piston out of carbonfiber. or try to make carbon fiber piston. also maybe a wood piston.
Steve cool as hell nice first attempt. Fiberglass reinforcement in the concrete. You need stronger concrete and a lot longer cure time. 30 days minimum. Cut the ring grooves in with diamond saw. Polish head. Might be worth sealing concrete as well prior to running it. Possibly have a pro mix designer on the concrete. Box store is a mistake. Love it!
Next piston should be made of hard granite, tools required are a CNC, diamond tool bits and plenty of flowing cutting fluid, make sure there's no fracture around the gudgeon pin area
It was absolutely entertaining regardless! To see Steve’s Brian go to work is entertaining itself! Awesome group effort, can’t wait for the next insane idea you come up with!
if they do this they should oversize it a bit, because it will definitely shrink when kiln dried, and then cut it/sand it to proper dimensions very carefully
He's actually accurate and everything he's doing slush casting is where you rotate your cast to make a thin layer around the interior then you build up layer by layer. Add vibrations to reduce bubble accumulation.
Camden Bowden has been making a 3D printed gas engine series for a while, a fully 3D printed cylinder doesn’t seal enough but an acrylic or metal pipe works
Using fiber reinforced concrete with very fine particles of concrete would probably work pretty well! With a lot of fiber added in, plus quick setting chemicals added in as well would help a lot. Also use JB weld to fill and seal the ring-lands.
i love the effort and passion you guys put into these experiments. it really makes it entertaining. what if you casted your own piston out of melted down pop cans? or another guy mentioned a jb weld piston which would be awesome too😂
If you ever wanna redo it i have the recipe. Plaster of Paris 1/3 in Portland Cement with river or sea sand 1/3 of the overall mix volume and whatever your hand can grab of concrete reinforcing fibers. For every cup of water add a spoon of PVA glue. No rebars, mesh, aggregate, anything else. You need to leave it alone for a couple days before remove the mold and occasionally spray it with water the first few days, you aren't going for structural concrete you just want this as ready is possible. I use this recipe for model houses and the cast comes out smooth, it sets within moments with the plaster added, and strength wise i can step on a model house with a 3mm ceiling slab.
fiberglass, bondo, JB weld, gorilla glue, or dried paint pistons may be some neat ideas. I think you will have to do all of them in layers, or the center may not dry all the way.
I would love to help you with projects as a local Michigan, aerospace/defense tooling designer. I can show you a lot of the tools and R&D stuff done in the past.
If you plan on making any other pistons with other materials that require air to cure may I suggest making the molds from silicone instead of plastic as silicone rubbers is actually fairly air permeable
What if you cut the ring lands out of a piston and put them in the mould before you pour the concrete and when it dries you can have a concrete piston with aluminum ring lands and rings. That way you know it's going to seal for sure and we can see if the dome will hold up.
Jb weld piston!!! Or bondo piston!!!!!!! Jb bondo weld piston!!!!!!!! Killin it guys. Love watching this kind of stuff with you guys in your natural state 😆
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We may or may not have a 4 stroke quad for the next test subject 🤔 Let us know what we should do with it!
Make a wooden piston for the 4 stroke like a sawdust particleboard type idea 💡 idk 😄
A piston built from rcv and plastic....
So i know this wouldnt involve printing anything… but have a piston machined from a “billet” of marble or some other rock
Make one out of solder
Have a machine shop machine a mold and try to make your own casting from bronze or lead
Use the mold and fill it with JB WELD!!!!!!!!! JB WELD PISTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JB WELD !!!!!!!!
I was thinking the same thing!
this would be hilarious
Or superglue and baking soda
This.
Yes jb please lol
Make a piston out of a very hard wood It will for sure be a hoot
BRB ordering some Australian Buloke
Some Brazilian ipe
Ol' hickory otta do it 😂
Ironwood from Arizona, it is so dense it sinks in water like a rock!
Cap the piston with some sort of heat shield
A common trick I use to help with a low compression engine to see how it runs. I use some oil on the piston. Pour it down the spark plus take up extra ring spacing. Smoky but works
Can vouch, did it on my last built motor. Oil holds just enough to get that initial compression going.
We tried, it helped but wasn't quite enough
yeppers thats how I would always tell if I had a ring issue or a valve issue... ring issue id see great increase in compression.. valve issue id see minimal increase
This is some Garage 54 stuff, and I mean that in the absolute best way. Awesome.
Just came to say the same thing
I thought it was one of their videos when I first saw the thumbnail
@@everythingloud4068 same
@everythingloud4068Same 😂
Yup fr
you could try adding fiberglass fibers to the cement for strength. it also takes about a week for concrete to hit half strength and a month for full strength. I also think you'd be better off trying to cut the ring grooves rather than molding them
A fiberglass window screen would do a tolerable job if it were spiraled or soaked and wadded, then vibrated in the mold, I imagine.
Yeah and for maximum strenght the part should be cured under water or kept moist until the 1 month mark
EXACTLY! The comment said "reinforced concrete" not normal cheap stuff. They didn't even do the suggestion right. This needs to be redone correctly with a fiber-reinforced concrete such as Fibercrete.
You guys needed to do a polished concrete piston with sealer enamel on it. It would be beautiful and probably run for a spell.
Steve has definitely been the star of both channels recently he deserves a raise
Young Stevie Tarantino 😂
Try hydraulic cement . Cures much faster,stronger, smoother, not permeable (waterproof), and no rocks. Lowe’s and hd both have it
I was going to suggest the same thing we use hydraulic cement to fix toilet flanges set up quick gets very hot super hard and durable
All the hands at once when putting the nuts on the head cracked me up! 😆
"If you learned something it's not a failure." - Guru Steve.
Doesn't matter if it ran for 4 seconds or if it ran for 4 hours. It ran with a concrete piston. Absolute champions.
Get a mold made so you can make a glass piston.
Temper it properly and it would last a surprisingly long time
They should talk to the rabbit hole. They have some pretty good glass blowers over there. It’s about 20 minutes from their shop.
@@jacobfoulds7618 Do you know someone there specifically? I'd have to figure out how to machine/grind it but it would be cool
@@Steve-sxsblogparts I’ll email you guys with the details
@@jacobfoulds7618 Do you know someone there? I'd be down to try it, I'd just need to figure out how to grind it
Try some type of "ironwood". I built a deck out of Ipe. Pain in the ass to work with. You have to pre drill every hole with special bits then buy non standard decking screws or both will just snap.
Camera to Steve “I don’t know shit about concrete” that made my day you guys make great content lol
This man out here doing REAL science.
RIP Thick44
Lol real science was making them out of light weight aluminum and realizing they last for thousands of hours.
This is literally going backwards.
My 10 year old saw this and said that wouldn't last at all.
I hugged him and told him how proud I was to have so much common sense at a young age like we did generations ago !!!
Epoxy piston, steel, or brass wrist pin bushings, aluminum burn plate on the top. I wanna see how long you can get it to run like that!
Concrete takes 28 days to cure but I love it anyways
Same. I did sorta feel like shouting at the screen the first few times they said cured instead of dried. Still cool, though.
Correct 7 days for 50% and 28 days for 100%. And many people believe the rock in concrete gives strength but its main purpose is to absorb heat
A little fibermesh 150 would have helped too. Not as much as actually waiting for it to cure but had they actually done so, the fibermesh instead of the lint trap or whatever would have been a big help
The rocks are mostly just to make it cheaper you'll hear that 95% of the time from the owners I've been laying concrete for 27 years now and I've heard them say that to the customers lmfao 😂@@allenrhodes
Depends on the pound you purchased
Steve try an epoxy piston
Epoxy and resin piston
Really great. Loved it. Back to screwing around like the early videos. Been a fan since the yz. This is great. I would love a 110 tee shirt about a concert piston.
i was trying to think of ideas for you. making a fiberglass piston maybe...but i think itd be similar to the 3d one. 🤔 however. maybe making one of denim? ive seen some other stuff being made of that recently. another thought. maybe try a plastic piston again. but try and make the top of the piston out of carbonfiber. or try to make carbon fiber piston. also maybe a wood piston.
You should try pouring a resin piston 🤷🏼
It’s been done
Garage 54 already done it
Wanna see these guys do a resin piston though
Steve cool as hell nice first attempt. Fiberglass reinforcement in the concrete. You need stronger concrete and a lot longer cure time. 30 days minimum. Cut the ring grooves in with diamond saw. Polish head. Might be worth sealing concrete as well prior to running it. Possibly have a pro mix designer on the concrete. Box store is a mistake.
Love it!
Fill the same molds up with some two part epoxy or marine Tex
Had me impressed at the 3 piece 3D printed moulding. Seriously impressive.
I love Steve he is the mad scientist of the Blog 😎👍
love these kind of video's... what about porcelain? it looks fragile but sometimes can be very strong. Keep up the awesome vids men, cheers
It was a good idea while it lasted. KEEP TRYING. Make the outside of the piston real smooth with a concrete sealer
Next piston should be made of hard granite, tools required are a CNC, diamond tool bits and plenty of flowing cutting fluid, make sure there's no fracture around the gudgeon pin area
Time for a glass molded piston!!!!
Sawdust and water frozen is very strong , freeze a slug machine it keep it cold throw it in try to start it before it melts .
I'd like to smell a piston made out of jolly ranchers or butterscotch candies
It's all aboat having fun! Entertaining.
Why not cast an aluminum piston out of recycled cans or old engine parts? You could use the rest of the concrete for the mold.
It was absolutely entertaining regardless! To see Steve’s Brian go to work is entertaining itself! Awesome group effort, can’t wait for the next insane idea you come up with!
Maybe try making a piston with 3d printed ceramic, it can be hardened and can withstand high heat
The future of tensile, compressive, and hardness super materials 😉
if they do this they should oversize it a bit, because it will definitely shrink when kiln dried, and then cut it/sand it to proper dimensions very carefully
Steve is the man.
Next title side by side vlogs shoots for world record with 2jz swapped RZR running concrete pistons
It’s insane how much work went into making that piston 🤯 thanks for the awesome video guys! What a hoot
Even tho it’d didn’t work was still a good video
He's actually accurate and everything he's doing slush casting is where you rotate your cast to make a thin layer around the interior then you build up layer by layer. Add vibrations to reduce bubble accumulation.
Make a piston out of WOOD. I bet it’s last way longer than the plastic one
Outstanding! Plus you have made a self honing piston. Very cool Steven - wow you continue to amaze me.
You guys walked right past the 10000 Quikrete 😂
The HD concrete conversation was great.
hydraulic cement might be the ticket here!! love the videos thanks
stole the words out my mouth😂
Try making a piston out of hdpe (high density polyethylene) it's used in low pressure gas piping so it can handle some heat and friction
I still would really like to see a 3D printed jug!
Camden Bowden has been making a 3D printed gas engine series for a while, a fully 3D printed cylinder doesn’t seal enough but an acrylic or metal pipe works
@@jetpackjbd thanks for the info! I am gonna check him out!
31:54 jumpscared me bc i was listening on my headphones on 100% volume and my ears are hurting
You should make one out of melted down lead you could do it pretty cheap with old wheel weights
Garage 54 already done it and tons more.
Can you make an opposing magnet piston? You would need the head magnet to activate at just the right time. 🤔
You should try a polished peace of marble!!!/ next best thing to concrete.
Try concrete filler epoxy and use the powdercoat oven to melt the plastic mold out of it.
No this is the main channel boys.
Using fiber reinforced concrete with very fine particles of concrete would probably work pretty well! With a lot of fiber added in, plus quick setting chemicals added in as well would help a lot. Also use JB weld to fill and seal the ring-lands.
Lead piston. It would probably be a lb and would be interesting to see if it deforms with the heat
What about an epoxy piston hi PSI with standing high temperature epoxy would be something to see
i feel like epoxy would actually last for a little bit.
i love the effort and passion you guys put into these experiments. it really makes it entertaining. what if you casted your own piston out of melted down pop cans? or another guy mentioned a jb weld piston which would be awesome too😂
Next make a ceramic piston clay into the mold and then kiln dry.
If you ever wanna redo it i have the recipe. Plaster of Paris 1/3 in Portland Cement with river or sea sand 1/3 of the overall mix volume and whatever your hand can grab of concrete reinforcing fibers. For every cup of water add a spoon of PVA glue.
No rebars, mesh, aggregate, anything else.
You need to leave it alone for a couple days before remove the mold and occasionally spray it with water the first few days, you aren't going for structural concrete you just want this as ready is possible.
I use this recipe for model houses and the cast comes out smooth, it sets within moments with the plaster added, and strength wise i can step on a model house with a 3mm ceiling slab.
Keep this cool science stuff coming!!!!
you got to try Ceramic. Its easier to cast and its strong and can withstand the heat!!
Be cool to see if making the whole piston out of jb weld would be the move.. lol
Jb weld is kinda fragile. It will crack fairly easily.
This is right up garage 54's videos. 💯
Love these experiments!
I love this it’s like myth busters but better 😂
Think good ol’ JB weld might have been the ticket for the rings.
I just snapped a ring rebuilding a weedwacker, I used JB weld to fill in the spots. Interested to see how long that lasts if it runs at all
@@jetpackjbd lol it’s gotten me out of a couple binds.. good chance it might will work well for you.
Now, make a transparent reinforced resin piston :D
That thing crushed like ocean gate.
fiberglass, bondo, JB weld, gorilla glue, or dried paint pistons may be some neat ideas. I think you will have to do all of them in layers, or the center may not dry all the way.
“Hydration” is the chemical reaction Matt.
J.B. Weld piston? Think that could work for a few minutes!
I started laughing before I even clicked on the video 😂
What about submerging a dry/cured block of Concrete in Resin then machining that into a piston?
26:47 everyones face watching this whole video
love this kind of content
Poor man's big/over bore with MRP powder coated stock piston
Make one out of clear table top apoxy would be cool . Be a clear light piston
This channel is hilarious. Next try straight Gorrilla glue let it dry completely lol
You should try K15 floor leveler no rocks hard as steel when cured
Concrete would not likely make good breakfast cereal either.
On next week’s episode of 110 Garage…
You should make a V-twin engine with one 4 stroke cylinder and one 2 stroke cylinder
I would love to help you with projects as a local Michigan, aerospace/defense tooling designer. I can show you a lot of the tools and R&D stuff done in the past.
I appreciate the offer. Sometimes the haphazard DIY approach is half the fun though
@@Steve-sxsblogparts believe me I know, this is more of a point of contact for industry needs but I’d share knowledge to y’all for free 😂😂
I would like to see some experiments with different materials for the wrist pin like pvc pipe or a wood dowel rod. Great videos keep up the work
When your all out of crazy piston ideas make this a electric quad
Use self leveler concrete. Will mold smoother
"I Don't Know Sh!t About Concrete"
CAN WE PLEASE HAVE SOME 110 GARAGE DECALS/STICKERS!!!!!!!!! I love your content on this and the main channel!!❤❤
Piston out of reenforced Bondo
What about using your mold and pressure injecting gasket maker. Make a rubber piston.
High heat epoxy is the way
If you plan on making any other pistons with other materials that require air to cure may I suggest making the molds from silicone instead of plastic as silicone rubbers is actually fairly air permeable
What about epoxy?
What if you cut the ring lands out of a piston and put them in the mould before you pour the concrete and when it dries you can have a concrete piston with aluminum ring lands and rings. That way you know it's going to seal for sure and we can see if the dome will hold up.
Make a piston out of glass
It will break
Jb weld piston!!! Or bondo piston!!!!!!! Jb bondo weld piston!!!!!!!! Killin it guys. Love watching this kind of stuff with you guys in your natural state 😆
Diamond piston 💎
You should try making an epoxy grout piston. As a mason that’s some of the toughest stuff I ever used it would definitely hold up better the. Concrete
Epoxy piston
I was just about to comment that
That’s screen is what I used on my TRX450 for a spark arrester ,lol