CHAPTER TIMES Intro - 00:31 Thoughts on Reveal - 6:34 Previous FF Movies - 9:54 FF Comics - 13:37 Pedro Pascal as Reed Richards - 17:31 Vanessa Kirby as Sue Storm - 22:38 Joseph Quinn as Johnny Storm - 25:47 Ebon Moss Bachrach as Ben Grimm - 29:26 Questions and Polls - 32:07
As a big fan of The Bear and MCU, Ebon Moss-Bachrach will be exceptional in the role of Ben Grimm. Basically gets to do what Bradley Cooper does with Rocket Racoon. I think it's phenomenal casting. He can have that role for all time in a major franchise, whilst being able to do other dramatic / comedic roles off the back of the likely success of the film.
I really like Grace but man does she sometimes have the WORST takes imaginable. She would've preferred Seth Rogan as The Thing?! Nothing against Seth, but he's always Seth. I don't want The Thing talking and laughing like Seth Rogan...it was distracting and lazy for Donkey Kong already. And her argument is that Ebon is such a great actor that it would be wasted for The Thing?? Does she not realize that Thanos had so much gravitas precisely because Josh Brolin is a great actor? Same thing with Rocket being played by Bradley Cooper. Mark Ruffalo as Hulk. Literally Oscar nominated actors have always brought the best Marvel CGI characters.
Calm down. Relax lmao you're right with Rogen. I would honestly consider not watching if I had to hear Seth as Thing. Your face being hidden by Cgi is something no actor wants. You'd have to be pretty dumb to think they'd want that. Your few examples are just tht.. few examples. 2 being irrelevant. Thanos is still Brolins face and Raffulo gets to go back to his actual human face
@@piusdoe8984 What does an actor wanting to do a CGI character or not have to do with what I said or what Grace said?? She said she doesn't quite like the choice of actor for The Thing cause he's such a great actor she feels it's wasted potential. I'm replying with examples of other great actors that proved their talent wasn't wasted potential for CGI characters. You don't need to see their face for that, Rocket Raccoon has proven that.
Reed was the only "Science Guy" in the FF. If they try to make everyone scientists like Trank did it will tank. The FF works because everyone is different. Johnny Storm was a teenager who was into cars. I don't know where the "male model" bit came from.
Joesph Quinn doesn’t give me ladies man Johnny storm. Michael B and Chris Evans are conventional attractive and muscular. That’s not Joesph no disrespect. Zane Phillips or Callum Turner or Austin Butler would have been a better choice Also Pedro is a good actor but I do believe he is a bit of a miscast. Henry Cavil would have been a great Mr. Fantastic. He could play the egoistic version great and it would stick it to WB and we all know Kevin likes to do that.
Why are people constantly bringing up Wanda. She had a pocket dimension replicating thr 60s. Shes not from it. Wanda stans and fans really need to chill with the inserts. Sheesh
Lizzie acted the hell out of what mediocre writing they gave her and Benedict in DSMom. Wished that movie was better written. Anyway the damage has been done. Give Wanda a proper return/redemption instead of shoving her in in any chance you get.
Yeah, the problem with casting Pedro is that people only see Pedro, not the character. He’s a great actor but idk why I have a hard time seeing the character he plays. He was great in GoT and I definitely saw him embody the character. After he got his cult following though. Last of Us. While he was similar to Joel, it did feel like he’s Pedro first before Joel. When I saw the picture, it felt like Pedro Pascal was just cosplaying. I didn’t even feel that when Michael B. Jordan was casted as Johnny and I felt that casting was dumb
I think if the fans didn't do such a good job voicing our displeasure of the over-focusing on comedy (especially with the last Thor and Ant Man), they probably would have casted him. I hope this movie brings us back to the more serious tone I loved in Winter Soldier to Endgame.
Agreed. Everyone’s hiring him right now but all of his upcoming projects are gonna be at once. It will definitely be weird to see him in everything soon.
Grace you were the first one to confirm Sue was Vanessa. I searched my texts I sent to Marvel fan friends to tell them you were right!! From August 2023!!! Great live, too many people at the end and it froze. Thanks for covering!!
When it came to Superman you often said they went for a good choice but not an interesting choice but the second you said Rockstar I was like Joseph Quinn became infinitely more interesting as a different spin
Look, I'm really happy for Pedro Pascal but him and Joseph Quinn seems to have been chosen more because they're really popular at the moment rather than because they fit the characters. I'm open to have a change of mind and this poster already is a good start. P.S. Love your outfit Grace!
Exactly. The whole “the had a great audition” argument doesn’t really make sense to me. I highly doubt actors of their popularity have to audition for the MCU anymore… I’m pretty sure Marvel Studios purposely sought them out to gain viewership… Not great casting imo.
Oh boy. Prepare for Joseph Quinn to change your minds. I think he's going to be great! He will make us care and be FANTASTIC. I disagree he needs to be a heartthrob. It's the acting. Let's remember, when Downey was cast as Stark, there was outrage Downey wasn't as tall, or handsome as Stark. These characters are drawn. It's hard to match that. Not everyone is Hemsworth.
It’s not his acting people have issue with, there’s no doubt he can pull that off. It’s his looks. Johnny Storm’s looks are vital to his character because it influences his personality.
"White" in reference to ethnicity simply means caucasian of European/western descent, not necessarily determined by pale skin colour. Pedro has relatively "white" skin colour, but he's actually of Chilean descent.
@@voiceinthenoise3357 "Chilean" isn't ethnicity. There are white chileans and south americans. Pascal is a french surname. His family is pretty much white. Just like US there were a lot of european inmigrants in South America and not all of them mixed with natives.
OMG Grace! I love your outift! Where did you get those sunglasses? They're so stinkin' cute! Just wanna say I love your content and keep up the good work! I always enjoy watching your videos after a long day of work. It really helps me decompress for the day.
Fantastic Four not Deadpool is the possible savior of the Marvel Universe. A signal character or characters can’t save an entire film franchise. Fantastic Four can open the possibility to a bunch of neat ideas if they get it right.
To me, Pedro is definitely “white passing.” So I don’t know why we keep bringing up that he is diversifying this cast lol. I thought he was a white man in Wonder Woman.
Quinn is probably the best casting. You’ll see in time. Group think here aside, there is a reason Quinn has millions of fan pages. Most people disagree with you Grace. Joe pretty boyed up, blonde and jacked. You’ll see. He’s literally the perfect choice. You’re way off.
@@markkwassheree Sure. It’s not as many as you think tho. These places are echo chambers. The numbers will show what’s real in the end. No point in arguing. We’ll find out.
@@markkwassheree Box office will speak in the end. Mainstream doesn’t think like this though, they see Pedro, they like it. They see popular actors who haven’t broken out yet. They like it. You only think it’s split because you’re in these communities online. Again, doesn’t matter. If the box office is big that kind of proves all this; I like it, I don’t like it, crap is irrelevant.
They didn’t want an all white cast but Pedro looks just white enough for people who still wants a traditional fantastic four if that’s something they were concerned with. Same thing with him being cast as Joel
So many actors have gone through physical transformations to embody their characters. Obvious examples are Chris Pratt, Kumail Nanjiani and my fave Will Poulter. Joseph Quinn was hired to act. And based on his past work. A haircut and some months in the gym will take care of the physical aspect easily.
Looking at some of his pictures in IMDB, I can tell Joseph Quinn has a very handsome face. The man is a diamond in the rough. Once he goes through Marvel's extreme makeover, a lot of people will change their minds.
The whole cast is perfect for me Quinn to me is just perfect, I get the point but to me he can do that kind of role. Also that artwork is really really good, I what as a postcard.
I’m split on whether Pedro should be playing the character to be like him..or to be character accurate - cause I love Pedro, but wanted that aloof hot cold senpai that Reed is supposed to be giving 😭🙏
I appreciate the Ben Grimm photo in the back. I never understood Ben was portrayed as the lovable dumb jock of the team when he was also an astronaut. He may not be a genius like Reed but he’s certainly not an idiot.
I think Ebon will be great and we loved the Mandalorian and didn’t see the characters face till the end of the first season. And how many motion capture movies that no one complains about the acting 🤷🏽♀️ So I’m not sure why this should be different. Seth Rogan is a no for me 😂😂😂
Sue powers can just look like monicas when she phases through stuff. When the spear went thru her chest in kamalas house on the table literally was sue invisiblity
Everyone’s a fit for me except Joseph Quinn. From what we’ve seen, not one aspect of him on or off screen gives Johnny Storm😭 especially not when it’ll be compared to how Chris Evan’s was a perfect casting for him
I really hope this is the costumes they look awesome! Some classic costume vibes and a nice change of pace from the usual costumes we get in the mcu that all look the same
Fantastic 4 is about family, not their powers I REALLY hope Marvel gets it. That said, a dual-vintage timeline seems very much like Jupiter's Legacy (Netflix).
what I will say about her powers is that I’ve always perceived her to have loosely based telekinetic energy based abilities. Force fields are invisible until you touch them for example, the fantastic four worlds greatest heroes animated series episode where the Hulk was out there, fighting them, she put up a force field around herself and Ben. trying to keep the two of them from breaking Harlem. So when the Hulk was walking towards them, he bumped into her force field. And you saw it ripple almost like water. Then he started trying to break it. So it’s like when you touch it and you attack it you can actually see it. And there are force fields that are invisible but then, when you actually interact with them, you can actually see them. and I feel like that’s the best representation of her powers as far as the invisible is concerned. As far as emission of loosely, based energy, though, that she’s using to do telekinesis, and throwing discs and shooting bolts, I feel like that takes her power to a whole new level. I feel like yes, the base of our powers is invisibility, but what they’ve grown into after that can only be classified as a form of energy. And she can choose whether or not she’s invisible. She can choose whether or not her force fields are invisible. I think she can’t choose when she’s throwing discs or bolts whether or not they are invisible. But if she could again, like you said, that would defeat the purpose. I feel like her powers have to look cool, so we need to classify them as loosely based energy in the telekinesis department. I mean for chrissakes, Jean Gray shoots pink energy. in the comics lol. Jeans, telekinetic abilities have a pink energy quality to them no matter how she’s using them. No Phoenix force integrated of course, because then things starts to change. I’ve always felt the same way about Sue.
Grace, it's awesome that you mentioned Strange Way of Life. Almodovar is one of my favorite filmmakers. I was certain it was going to get a best short film Oscar nom.
My hopes for casting were Mr.F, Penn Badgley. Sue, Vanessa Kirby. Johnny, ( like Grace always says )Austin Butler. And Thing, idek so I’m cool with Andor guy.
Imo Joseph Quinn is better looking than all those other model options you mentioned. Obviously it’s subjective but just cause he doesn’t appeal to one person doesn’t mean he won’t appeal to many others.
The idea of conventional attraction is that it’s the widest spread lol. Just because people find him attractive doesn’t mean he’s conventionally good looking…
I actually feel like the best casting is Johnny and Ben. Both are great actors that I think will pull off their roles well. I love both Pedro and Vanessa but I’m not sold on them being together. All these actors are amazing but we’ll see if the chemistry is there cause that’s what will make or break the film.
Don’t know why but fantastic 4 is my fave. Spiderman is neat and xmen are cool but I’ve always been hardcore FF . Past movies haven’t gotten them right and I really hope they knock this out of the park
Johnny Storm’s “Rock Star” persona was 90% his total attitude ( plus he raced cars and had the confidence one has with that, except for the crime part, he would have fit in with the early movies of the F&F), it was not as much that he was “male model”, but because is confidence was huge, his attitude was huge, he raced cars and such and he soaked in the attention.
His attitude was huge BECAUSE he looked like a Chad. The whole point of his character was that there was more to him than his looks. He’s essentially the prince of superheroes in the Marvel universe. His looks are just as important to his personality. His casting takes a lot of that away from the character…
31:47 Recently checked out the SpiderMan cartoon Secret Wars. There’s a story where Doom makes Grimm able to change back & forth. Maybe they do something like that with The Thing.
Papa Pedro as Reed Richards I'm Here 4 it! I also love Vanessa Kirby so I can see them both doing an excellent job! The Bear is a great show and we are about to see a version of The Thing we have never seen before! LOL
If I was a Marvel writer/executive, I would establish that in the X-Men universe, the Xmen are like the Avengers, which in the main universe are also loved and hated. This would make the multiverse storylines more interesting in the sense that we don't need to have an Avenger team in every universe, but all the universes have their own heroic teams.
Now that you mention it - Kamala can elongate limbs like Reed, create disks and shields like Sue, wear crystallized armor kinda like Ben, and can fire projectiles like Johnny… 🫠
Didn’t appreciate the “wouldn’t want to put that on him” about being autistic and that it would be weird if he was an “autistic daddy” as if autistic people can’t be attractive or be charming like anyone else. The general public knows very little about autistic people and how they operate. Anyone that knows enough about being autistic knows that he very much so could be interpreted as an autistic character. NOT THAT HE NEEDS TO BE! Because I’m not saying he should be written that way, but it isn’t that far fetched of a concept. Those comments were unsavory Grace. Honestly, I’m very disappointed…
I really don't like that they are bringing characters in from other universes instead of having them just be in the MCU. It overcomplicates things and feels very convoluted.
I'm excited for Vanessa Kirby's Sue Storm, and the rest, well I'll need to see more to get excited for them. I would really like to see Ion Gruffudd as Reed one last time. I thought he was underrated casting and would've been a better cameo in Multiverse of Madness over the lame Krasinski one.
CHAPTER TIMES
Intro - 00:31
Thoughts on Reveal - 6:34
Previous FF Movies - 9:54
FF Comics - 13:37
Pedro Pascal as Reed Richards - 17:31
Vanessa Kirby as Sue Storm - 22:38
Joseph Quinn as Johnny Storm - 25:47
Ebon Moss Bachrach as Ben Grimm - 29:26
Questions and Polls - 32:07
And who will be the actor of Doctor Doom?
28:37 I always love that ringtone, but love it more when it goes off as you're talking about the past.
As a big fan of The Bear and MCU, Ebon Moss-Bachrach will be exceptional in the role of Ben Grimm. Basically gets to do what Bradley Cooper does with Rocket Racoon. I think it's phenomenal casting. He can have that role for all time in a major franchise, whilst being able to do other dramatic / comedic roles off the back of the likely success of the film.
Yeah I agree. I think he’s gonna make an awesome Ben Grimm
Cousin’s gonna do great
Fully agree.
I love Pedro Pascal’s work but I’m still not onboard with him being Reed. Hoping he’ll turn out to be great in the role though.
I really like Grace but man does she sometimes have the WORST takes imaginable. She would've preferred Seth Rogan as The Thing?! Nothing against Seth, but he's always Seth. I don't want The Thing talking and laughing like Seth Rogan...it was distracting and lazy for Donkey Kong already.
And her argument is that Ebon is such a great actor that it would be wasted for The Thing?? Does she not realize that Thanos had so much gravitas precisely because Josh Brolin is a great actor? Same thing with Rocket being played by Bradley Cooper. Mark Ruffalo as Hulk. Literally Oscar nominated actors have always brought the best Marvel CGI characters.
Calm down. Relax lmao you're right with Rogen. I would honestly consider not watching if I had to hear Seth as Thing.
Your face being hidden by Cgi is something no actor wants. You'd have to be pretty dumb to think they'd want that. Your few examples are just tht.. few examples. 2 being irrelevant. Thanos is still Brolins face and Raffulo gets to go back to his actual human face
@@piusdoe8984 What does an actor wanting to do a CGI character or not have to do with what I said or what Grace said??
She said she doesn't quite like the choice of actor for The Thing cause he's such a great actor she feels it's wasted potential. I'm replying with examples of other great actors that proved their talent wasn't wasted potential for CGI characters. You don't need to see their face for that, Rocket Raccoon has proven that.
I love the Fantastic Four logo! It’s retro and it fits perfect.
Agree
Still hard to picture Pedro Pascal as Reed Richards but I guess we’ll see lol
There's literally tons fanart of him as reed and he looks great
Yeah I’m not feeling it so far… I’ll have to see him in action
@@korggod9989 you can make fanart of anyone as a character and they'll look great lmao doesn't mean it will translate to the screen
@@korggod9989 This is a bad argument.
@@korggod9989nah. I don’t think he has the acting chops to pull this off.
Reed was the only "Science Guy" in the FF. If they try to make everyone scientists like Trank did it will tank. The FF works because everyone is different. Johnny Storm was a teenager who was into cars. I don't know where the "male model" bit came from.
Joesph Quinn doesn’t give me ladies man Johnny storm. Michael B and Chris Evans are conventional attractive and muscular. That’s not Joesph no disrespect. Zane Phillips or Callum Turner or Austin Butler would have been a better choice
Also Pedro is a good actor but I do believe he is a bit of a miscast. Henry Cavil would have been a great Mr. Fantastic. He could play the egoistic version great and it would stick it to WB and we all know Kevin likes to do that.
Why would Austin Butler play a superhero hunk? He's an Oscar nominee but thanks for your preferences.
@jeremyd5850 Are you implying that Quinn looks like a soyboy?
Nah Rudy Pankow would have been perfect
I completely agree, Joseph Quinn seems like a huge miscast, I cannot see him as a ladies man / Johnny Storm at all lol.
Yall didn't watch Stranger Things 4. He's breathtaking
The Maras own the Giants and the Rooneys own the Steelers. Patricia Mara uses her mother's maiden name as her stage name, hence Rooney Mara.
I'm not into Pedro playing Reed. Venessa seems like a great choice for Sue, the other guys I'm ok for now untill I see them in action.
Why are people constantly bringing up Wanda. She had a pocket dimension replicating thr 60s. Shes not from it. Wanda stans and fans really need to chill with the inserts. Sheesh
😂
I don’t know why anyone cares about McU Wanda
Lizzie acted the hell out of what mediocre writing they gave her and Benedict in DSMom. Wished that movie was better written. Anyway the damage has been done. Give Wanda a proper return/redemption instead of shoving her in in any chance you get.
Shhhh let people enjoy things
@@DamnFineCupOfCoffee She's great in the MCU. But now it's always "IS this a Wanda?"
Pedro Pascal owns his mustache about as much as Burt Reynolds did.
Yeah, BR never played Reed Richards though, Redro Rascal will..
Yeah, the problem with casting Pedro is that people only see Pedro, not the character. He’s a great actor but idk why I have a hard time seeing the character he plays. He was great in GoT and I definitely saw him embody the character. After he got his cult following though. Last of Us. While he was similar to Joel, it did feel like he’s Pedro first before Joel.
When I saw the picture, it felt like Pedro Pascal was just cosplaying. I didn’t even feel that when Michael B. Jordan was casted as Johnny and I felt that casting was dumb
we’ve seen him without it also… not as daddy
Not even close 😅😅😅
Nah I didn't think of him as Pedro in any role I saw him in...I guess it's different for different ppl... @@John-to6sl
The best FF stories are Thing centric stories. The writers should look hard at those. And I am so glad they didn't cast Seth Rogen as the thing.
Like what trial of galactus. Galactus trilogy. Council of reedsand even this man this monster focused on reed primarilyor a villain.
I think if the fans didn't do such a good job voicing our displeasure of the over-focusing on comedy (especially with the last Thor and Ant Man), they probably would have casted him. I hope this movie brings us back to the more serious tone I loved in Winter Soldier to Endgame.
Austin Butler and Vanessa Kirby look like siblings too. What a missed opportunity!
Pedro pascal is definitely over exposed. He has like 10 upcoming projects.
Agreed. Everyone’s hiring him right now but all of his upcoming projects are gonna be at once. It will definitely be weird to see him in everything soon.
Agree. I love him but lately he is at every red carpet event and on too many chat shows.
I agree with your breakdown on the casting. I especially agree that it’ll be hard for some people to see Pedro Pascal as yet another iconic character!
Grace you were the first one to confirm Sue was Vanessa. I searched my texts I sent to Marvel fan friends to tell them you were right!! From August 2023!!! Great live, too many people at the end and it froze. Thanks for covering!!
Mark my words… Joseph Quinn will pull a Chris Pratt and look completely different by the time this comes out!
This was an awesome Valentine’s 💘 Day stream! Thanks Grace!
If Pete Davidson can be a ladies’ man, anyone can.
John Byrne’s run on FF was Fantastic!
Heya Grace…You are really rockin’ those glasses 😊
I disagree about Jacob Elordi. He's a good actor, but Id rather see Joseph Quinn in F4.
Happy Valentine's day Grace ❤❤❤. Have a good one.
When it came to Superman you often said they went for a good choice but not an interesting choice but the second you said Rockstar I was like Joseph Quinn became infinitely more interesting as a different spin
Look, I'm really happy for Pedro Pascal but him and Joseph Quinn seems to have been chosen more because they're really popular at the moment rather than because they fit the characters. I'm open to have a change of mind and this poster already is a good start.
P.S. Love your outfit Grace!
Exactly. The whole “the had a great audition” argument doesn’t really make sense to me. I highly doubt actors of their popularity have to audition for the MCU anymore… I’m pretty sure Marvel Studios purposely sought them out to gain viewership… Not great casting imo.
Really happy for Vanessa.
Elastigirl’s action in the second movie is just… spectacular
joseph quinn looks like RDJ in the 80s!
Oh boy. Prepare for Joseph Quinn to change your minds. I think he's going to be great! He will make us care and be FANTASTIC. I disagree he needs to be a heartthrob. It's the acting.
Let's remember, when Downey was cast as Stark, there was outrage Downey wasn't as tall, or handsome as Stark. These characters are drawn. It's hard to match that. Not everyone is Hemsworth.
Besides stranger things what’s he been in? I wanna see for myself if I like him or not lol
It’s not his acting people have issue with, there’s no doubt he can pull that off. It’s his looks. Johnny Storm’s looks are vital to his character because it influences his personality.
"They didnt want an all white cast", then went around and cast Pedro Pascal. He looks pretty white to me. Weird reasoning
There may be a memo somewhere replacement for white is latino
But he's not. Deal with it.
"White" in reference to ethnicity simply means caucasian of European/western descent, not necessarily determined by pale skin colour. Pedro has relatively "white" skin colour, but he's actually of Chilean descent.
@@voiceinthenoise3357 "Chilean" isn't ethnicity. There are white chileans and south americans. Pascal is a french surname. His family is pretty much white. Just like US there were a lot of european inmigrants in South America and not all of them mixed with natives.
@@wagnar Yeah so not ethnicity then. But nevertheless he represents diversity of nationality, and to some degree ethnicity.
OMG Grace! I love your outift! Where did you get those sunglasses? They're so stinkin' cute! Just wanna say I love your content and keep up the good work! I always enjoy watching your videos after a long day of work. It really helps me decompress for the day.
Fantastic Four not Deadpool is the possible savior of the Marvel Universe. A signal character or characters can’t save an entire film franchise. Fantastic Four can open the possibility to a bunch of neat ideas if they get it right.
You're awesome, Grace! ❤♥
To me, Pedro is definitely “white passing.” So I don’t know why we keep bringing up that he is diversifying this cast lol. I thought he was a white man in Wonder Woman.
27:15 geez grace you’ve been in the business long enough you should know it’s smart to wait to see the performance before judging
Elizabeth Olsen has said that she wants to take a break from Marvel so that would be why you are not seeing Wanda.
She’s been saying that recently. Wandavision was from 2021.. 3 years now
@@sophiag612 bruh you forgot Multiverse of Madness
@@simpayshenaides that was released at the beginning of 2022 “bruh.” Doesn’t make that big of a difference nimrod.
@@sophiag612 i remember the release of that movie, since when May is a beginning LOL
Also…she’s dead
Quinn is probably the best casting. You’ll see in time. Group think here aside, there is a reason Quinn has millions of fan pages. Most people disagree with you Grace. Joe pretty boyed up, blonde and jacked. You’ll see. He’s literally the perfect choice. You’re way off.
A lot of fans agree with Grace too… It’s not his personality people have issue with, there’s no doubt he can pull that off.
@@markkwassheree Sure. It’s not as many as you think tho. These places are echo chambers. The numbers will show what’s real in the end. No point in arguing. We’ll find out.
@@JarrenHunt Let’s wait and see. But I also don’t think it’s as much as you think either. It’s probably more split.
@@markkwassheree Box office will speak in the end. Mainstream doesn’t think like this though, they see Pedro, they like it. They see popular actors who haven’t broken out yet. They like it. You only think it’s split because you’re in these communities online. Again, doesn’t matter. If the box office is big that kind of proves all this; I like it, I don’t like it, crap is irrelevant.
@@JarrenHunt We’ll see. I’m curious to see how it competes against Superman: Legacy. Doesn’t look so good…
Thanks for sharing Grace 😁🍿🎥
Super excited for this casting news!!! 😃
They didn’t want an all white cast but Pedro looks just white enough for people who still wants a traditional fantastic four if that’s something they were concerned with. Same thing with him being cast as Joel
your critique of the thing casting is that the actor is too amazing.. WE ARE SOOO BACK
Right?? I guess she doesn't consider Josh Brolin and Bradley Cooper to be great actors for CGI characters.
Time to go watch _Bob Marley: One Love._
So many actors have gone through physical transformations to embody their characters. Obvious examples are Chris Pratt, Kumail Nanjiani and my fave Will Poulter. Joseph Quinn was hired to act. And based on his past work. A haircut and some months in the gym will take care of the physical aspect easily.
True. But idk if that’s the physical part people are thinking of
@@Jk_hbngfvg the ppl think he’s ugly lmao.
but not the face....
He gonna work out that face too?
Looking at some of his pictures in IMDB, I can tell Joseph Quinn has a very handsome face. The man is a diamond in the rough. Once he goes through Marvel's extreme makeover, a lot of people will change their minds.
Joseph Quinn literally played a rock star type in Stranger Things, what are you talking about Grace? lol
Yeah, I was gonna say so. He’s perfect for that type
His looks not his personality.
@@markkwassheree agree but I do think he’s really adorable
The whole cast is perfect for me Quinn to me is just perfect, I get the point but to me he can do that kind of role. Also that artwork is really really good, I what as a postcard.
I simply LOVE the 1960's aesthetics, I CAN'T WAIT.
I’m split on whether Pedro should be playing the character to be like him..or to be character accurate - cause I love Pedro, but wanted that aloof hot cold senpai that Reed is supposed to be giving 😭🙏
He played that kind of character in The Last of US.
Ebon was the casting I was most happy with. He didn't look anything like Microchip on Punisher but he was good.
I appreciate the Ben Grimm photo in the back. I never understood Ben was portrayed as the lovable dumb jock of the team when he was also an astronaut. He may not be a genius like Reed but he’s certainly not an idiot.
It’s a year off, but the unreleased Roger Corman movie is dated 1994.
I think Ebon will be great and we loved the Mandalorian and didn’t see the characters face till the end of the first season. And how many motion capture movies that no one complains about the acting 🤷🏽♀️ So I’m not sure why this should be different. Seth Rogan is a no for me 😂😂😂
Love The Valentines Day Shades!
Sue powers can just look like monicas when she phases through stuff. When the spear went thru her chest in kamalas house on the table literally was sue invisiblity
Happy Valentines Day everyone!!!!!
So fucking happy its Pedro and Vanessa!
Violet has invisibility and her force fields aren’t invisible rather transparent, they have done the same for sue storm. I see no issue
Fantastic 4 %one of my favorite comics and cartoon series! We will see!
Catch me if you can was set in the 60s as well. One of my favorite movies
Everyone’s a fit for me except Joseph Quinn. From what we’ve seen, not one aspect of him on or off screen gives Johnny Storm😭 especially not when it’ll be compared to how Chris Evan’s was a perfect casting for him
I was rooting for Rudy Pankow for Johnny Storm, but I'll take Joseph Quinn! Loved him in Stranger Things and can't wait to see him in the film!
Yeah, I think he’s perfect for the role
I really hope this is the costumes they look awesome! Some classic costume vibes and a nice change of pace from the usual costumes we get in the mcu that all look the same
Fantastic 4 is about family, not their powers I REALLY hope Marvel gets it. That said, a dual-vintage timeline seems very much like Jupiter's Legacy (Netflix).
LOVE THE GLASSES!!! ❤
what I will say about her powers is that I’ve always perceived her to have loosely based telekinetic energy based abilities. Force fields are invisible until you touch them for example, the fantastic four worlds greatest heroes animated series episode where the Hulk was out there, fighting them, she put up a force field around herself and Ben. trying to keep the two of them from breaking Harlem. So when the Hulk was walking towards them, he bumped into her force field. And you saw it ripple almost like water. Then he started trying to break it. So it’s like when you touch it and you attack it you can actually see it. And there are force fields that are invisible but then, when you actually interact with them, you can actually see them. and I feel like that’s the best representation of her powers as far as the invisible is concerned. As far as emission of loosely, based energy, though, that she’s using to do telekinesis, and throwing discs and shooting bolts, I feel like that takes her power to a whole new level. I feel like yes, the base of our powers is invisibility, but what they’ve grown into after that can only be classified as a form of energy. And she can choose whether or not she’s invisible. She can choose whether or not her force fields are invisible. I think she can’t choose when she’s throwing discs or bolts whether or not they are invisible. But if she could again, like you said, that would defeat the purpose. I feel like her powers have to look cool, so we need to classify them as loosely based energy in the telekinesis department. I mean for chrissakes, Jean Gray shoots pink energy. in the comics lol. Jeans, telekinetic abilities have a pink energy quality to them no matter how she’s using them. No Phoenix force integrated of course, because then things starts to change. I’ve always felt the same way about Sue.
Grace, it's awesome that you mentioned Strange Way of Life. Almodovar is one of my favorite filmmakers. I was certain it was going to get a best short film Oscar nom.
joseph quin IS A ROCKSTAR!!!
My hopes for casting were Mr.F, Penn Badgley. Sue, Vanessa Kirby. Johnny, ( like Grace always says )Austin Butler. And Thing, idek so I’m cool with Andor guy.
Tenóch and Pedro. NO WONDER SUE STORM IS CONFUSED!
Imo Joseph Quinn is better looking than all those other model options you mentioned. Obviously it’s subjective but just cause he doesn’t appeal to one person doesn’t mean he won’t appeal to many others.
The idea of conventional attraction is that it’s the widest spread lol. Just because people find him attractive doesn’t mean he’s conventionally good looking…
You won’t find Quinn many attraction polls over the other two Johnny Storms 😂
Pedro Pascal is descendant from Basque and other Spanish. He is 'white'.
If they were gonna go with a Stranger Things actor for Johnny, I would’ve gone with Dacre Montgomery tbh
I actually feel like the best casting is Johnny and Ben. Both are great actors that I think will pull off their roles well. I love both Pedro and Vanessa but I’m not sold on them being together. All these actors are amazing but we’ll see if the chemistry is there cause that’s what will make or break the film.
I’ve known this for a while now it just took marvel forever to announce
I never really watched I Love Lucy but I got the vibes of what ppl describe it to be from this image
Don’t know why but fantastic 4 is my fave. Spiderman is neat and xmen are cool but I’ve always been hardcore FF . Past movies haven’t gotten them right and I really hope they knock this out of the park
I can remember the platforms and discs from the 80’s.
Johnny Storm’s “Rock Star” persona was 90% his total attitude ( plus he raced cars and had the confidence one has with that, except for the crime part, he would have fit in with the early movies of the F&F), it was not as much that he was “male model”, but because is confidence was huge, his attitude was huge, he raced cars and such and he soaked in the attention.
His attitude was huge BECAUSE he looked like a Chad. The whole point of his character was that there was more to him than his looks. He’s essentially the prince of superheroes in the Marvel universe. His looks are just as important to his personality. His casting takes a lot of that away from the character…
Lucky for Pedro I don’t watch any of his other work so he will basically be brand new to me as an actor :)
The fantastic four has had other Marvel characters in their roster so I think there’s some extra appeal there.
Is there enough time to film this movie and for reshoots for that date? Isn’t Pedro still filming The Last of US?
Count the amount of times grace says Fantastic 😂
I would have loved to see Nico Greetham as The Human Torch
This is a laughable take
I’m so happy grace is putting in chapter times now!
omg I love the glasses
31:47 Recently checked out the SpiderMan cartoon Secret Wars. There’s a story where Doom makes Grimm able to change back & forth. Maybe they do something like that with The Thing.
Papa Pedro as Reed Richards I'm Here 4 it! I also love Vanessa Kirby so I can see them both doing an excellent job! The Bear is a great show and we are about to see a version of The Thing we have never seen before! LOL
If I was a Marvel writer/executive, I would establish that in the X-Men universe, the Xmen are like the Avengers, which in the main universe are also loved and hated. This would make the multiverse storylines more interesting in the sense that we don't need to have an Avenger team in every universe, but all the universes have their own heroic teams.
Now that you mention it - Kamala can elongate limbs like Reed, create disks and shields like Sue, wear crystallized armor kinda like Ben, and can fire projectiles like Johnny… 🫠
Didn’t appreciate the “wouldn’t want to put that on him” about being autistic and that it would be weird if he was an “autistic daddy” as if autistic people can’t be attractive or be charming like anyone else. The general public knows very little about autistic people and how they operate. Anyone that knows enough about being autistic knows that he very much so could be interpreted as an autistic character. NOT THAT HE NEEDS TO BE! Because I’m not saying he should be written that way, but it isn’t that far fetched of a concept. Those comments were unsavory Grace. Honestly, I’m very disappointed…
How do we know it's sent in 1963? Because of the couch?
The time magazine cover
Doctor strange mentioned 1960s also
Seth Rogen as the Thing? Be fr. Yeah no the cast we got I’m excited for.
Pedro is NOT a Reed Richards .🤷🏽♂️
With all due respect, David Corenswet is 100x hotter than Pedro 😂
If WE ARE FAMILY x SISTER SLEDGE isn’t the trailer song they’re missing an opportunity!!
Johnny Storm is a blonde himbo. How hard could it be to find one in Hollywood?
she killing those glasses!!!
your outfit is so cute Grace !!
I really don't like that they are bringing characters in from other universes instead of having them just be in the MCU. It overcomplicates things and feels very convoluted.
I'm excited for Vanessa Kirby's Sue Storm, and the rest, well I'll need to see more to get excited for them.
I would really like to see Ion Gruffudd as Reed one last time. I thought he was underrated casting and would've been a better cameo in Multiverse of Madness over the lame Krasinski one.
The fantastic four is a science based team. The storylines should reflect this