The Modern Dogfight | F-16C Viper Vs Su-27 Flanker | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |
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Please make a Indian MiG 29 video!!!
F16 vs f86
F104 vs mig 25 or 31
Nice vid, can we get this with reversed roles sometime soon?
I've been wanting to play DCS but I don't have the flight controls or head tracking equipment. Would it still be worth it?
@@Corporal_Idiot No
Thought this video was gonna be deck transitions, being patient, outrating, and the F-16 getting the kill, but that first round had me on the edge of my seat. Well played to both pilots.
Not in FOX-2 fight. Any kind of separation means certain death for any of these aircrafts.
which is exactly why i was repeatedly saying the F-16 fights became stale while ago - too predictable
this ... this was VERY entertaining to watch specifically because the fight could go to either of them instead of "now he is on the deck with plane literally designed to be unbeatable in deck ratefight"
That's probably true for a guns only fight, not a Fox-2 fight.
thats usually how gunfights go with the f-16. fox-2s change everything. otherwise modern jets like the f22 would have also been built to be 2 circle fighters
"Differential thrust this!" - smashed that thumbs up 👍
holy cow, that first fight was pure art. i didn’t even think it was possible to win a slow speed fight against a flanker in a viper, great job man!
Maybe you should just play better. I would’ve won every round.
You just are not good.
Go drink a Bud light.
Felt like an intentional throw to me.
@@GardenGuy1943what are you, gay?
I'm surprised you lived thru that 2nd round, considering he removed 5/5 flight control surfaces and turned you into a flaming rocket lol
Me too, I think it was only cuz it hit the rear of the aircraft
I bet Max Afterburner would love seeing that fight
That 1st round was some Top Gun shit 🏆
Well done to both GS and Toxic for putting on a great show!
I was thinking, 🤔- in Round 1, had that been ME in the Viper...
...lost count of how many times I'd have been killed ! 😄
Thanks, GS - great vid as always!
Love watching you fly against Toxic, he can really give you a run for your money. He's got instincts for getting into the right position like you do. Always feel the fights can go either way
Toxic did a pretty good job other than overshooting twice in the first fight. Had some impressive moves. Should have gunned you down a couple times in that one. He's got some skills but he shouldn't have ever lost to you once he forced you into the 1 circle. Still has a bit to learn. Great video.
This Toxic can not cope with his emotions in any way, it is necessary to drive him out of flight work with piss rags!
Awesome battles! Props to the Flanker pilot for keeping it competitive.
Damn, these were some fun fights to watch. I was as surprised as you that you were able to reverse and get that kill in the first fight. Holy crap that was good.
Always love coming home to a new GS video after i finish my work
Finishing off the day with this video just before sleeping....he he we all love GS
The aim 9x seems to track way better than the r73.
Different generations.
@@zyoungson215 The R-73 was basicly the OG back then
The aliexpress version of something is never as good as the real deal.
@@spookysnek1603 frfr
The R-73 uses a traditional infrared seeker from what I understand. The AIM-9X uses an infrared imaging system. It's a lot easier to tell plane from flare if your seeker system can tell you more than the brightness of one 'pixel'!
yes please do F-35 vs Su-57 and please fly in the F-35 this time GS🙏
BVR at least, because F-35 is gonna definitely lose in a dogfight
It's not built for it.
The pilot obviously makes all the difference in the world. These are so fun to watch. Thanks.
Last fight….love the use of the classic….” Hold this for me real quick bud”…..as u make the 9x shot….😂😂😂
Holy cow! Viper for the dub😳😳. Toxic was crushing it with the Flanker. Props to him
4:05 I really like the maneuver you do here, free engage in the WES and shoot the flanker with the gun. Good job sir!
He was doing differential thrust in the 3rd round too at least. When you did the first gun burst that took off his nose, I thought it had taken out his left engine at first, but a second later he put burner back on to both engines. I've been having fun getting my arse blown up trying to learn to fly the F-16 recently. For laughs, I put on that BVR mission from a few days ago and I tried to see if I could survive long enough to merge and kill the MiG-29 with the AIM-9X. Let's just say that of the 3 times I tried that... I did not do well. I managed to get myself to the merge (sort of) then I realized I actually don't have the first clue how to actually manuever and basically ate the first shot the MiG fired from that point on XD. It was fun though. I think part of it is I really have no idea how to use the rudder, and I always pull too hard.
Dude, i dont know HOW you do it, but everytime, fr everytime i peak into your channel to watch you for some days and then be off again etc, you upload exactly what i want to watch fighting against each other
That first fight was sick...... well done....
The F-16 is so small compared to the flanker! In that first fight he kept missing you but man easy to saw the wing off something thing the size of a building!
Feel very good to see your DCS videos daily ❤.
I’ve asked for this viper flanker hobs fight months ago. Glad to see it and glad to see my mighty viper beating the flanker😎
Do you think there would be any different results in the first turn if you use the 9X in Bore instead of Slave?
It would give you close to an extra 30° of launch angle and near instant tone. You wouldn't have to wait for the radar to travel to the target, and gain lock. Just uncage and go.
Day 27 of asking for F-35 vs Su57 bvr
Yes this would be epic!
Whats bvr
He really don't wanna do it !!?
I hope it doesn't happen
I put my bet on the F-35 but yeah would be cool to see it
that first round battle was one for the ages, definately highlight reel worthy
LOL, "differential thrust THIS" - Nuts, beating his own techniques lol
What's crazy is that first fight, he just goes to Idle,then CRUSHES a Flanker in the One Circle in a STOMP- I LOVE these vids where GS is in the enemy's den, and then still- beats them up at what they do best. So he's out-two circled the Viper in other planes like the tomcat and Fulcrum , has out-maneuvered and shanked the Raptor in the Flanker and Cobra/post-stall out-AOA'd it to a fast iR kill(longshot did this too) , he'- can't remember if he's fought the R_37 hypersonic missiles with phoenixes before... Just need him to outmanuever Felons now lol
SO interesting, even in the enemy's specialty- it doesn't mean they're the only ones who can do it - when he says the other guy can still compete - they still can, amazingly ... .- you can do it too -even to the guy who's best at it - GS just proved that lol...
(Unless it's that supermanueverability 120 degree AOA post-stall Cobra aerodynamics, then you can't quite match them- but you can still survive)
Wow, was really exciting video. Good job. 👍
that first one had me at the edge of my seat. the resolution was excellent.
What identifies as a new player? I have DCS for awhile but haven't put much time into it. Love your videos. Taught me a lot of dogfighting on many other games
Nice fight. Thanks for the F-16 content GS.
would love to take a look at tacview to see how all these maneuvers look relative to the ground. The way two planes move relatively still to each other makes it hard to follow how certain maneuvers are executed
Overloading those K-74M CPUs with all the flares! Well done.
Interesting seeing how the F-16 fares in a High off-boresight/HOBS environment. I'd expect to see 2-cirlce optimized fighters like the F-16 struggle in a HOBS fight; as opposed to aircraft with better High-Aspect performance, like the Hornet or Flanker. While the F-16 seems to be operating at somewhat of a disadvantage, it still clearly is a capable aircraft in that scenario.
Hope to see more F-16+9x fights from you. 😁
Holy shit! That first one was exciting! Can't believe you won that! Well played sir! Cheers!
Would love to see you fly the F 35 to show how capable it actually is. It's not designed with WVR as a priority but my understanding is it can hold its own with a pilot who knows the aircraft. Also, maybe when DCS simulates the magic helmet you could pull some little tricks by being able to maintain visual even when the bandit is under your seat in certain one circle situations?
I really want Max Afterburner to analyze this one cause he flew the F16 and could give tips on how to use the aircraft pass its limits to defeat a Flanker in the one circle
"Here, hold this for me real quick bud...." love it!
Thanks for these vids, my whole dcs life up until now has been staying in bvr, at least now I know what to do in ACM, even if I have trouble tracking the bandit without track ir.
2:32 “cross my nose!” - he almost literally crossed your nose here )
Just got a vr headset and getting good with the f18. In the discord and was on the growling sidewinder server for first time today and had a blast
10:41 - he was already using differential thrust in the previous round when he took the vertical on top of you
You had me biting nails on the first fight....awesome.
Commentary on that last kill was so disrespectful… I love it.
The Flanker is so much bigger than the Viper that in the first kill it looked like the Viper was super far away 😂 I wonder how the initial prototype Viper (with extra wing area) would do vs the Flanker
the japanese f16 variant would be cool to see
@@aunderiskerensky2304 You mean the F-2? Yea that would be a very close fight, it has some differences compared to f16s
Love to see some more MiG-28 fights
2:28 Ohhh "Can't touch this"
Day35.5: F35 vs SU57
You're persistent, I'll give you that much.
It’ll only be a 2 min video.
Why? A su-57 can hang with the 22, it will shit on a 35 (pilot skill being equal)
those mods suck compared to the actual modules, so no thanks
pucker factor on that first engage was at maximum for sure.
Much like the Huey AH-1 the F16 was a masterpiece out of the box.
9:12
"What do you mean there was traffic?"
"You'll never guess what happened..."
Insightful as always thank you GS
Toxic obviously saw your earlier vid of the Mig-29 v Viper bcs he did EVERYTHING you said to do to defeat the Viper. Great fights!
i keep seeing you make these Su-27 vs F-16 F-15 even Rafales. Reminded me of my country whose actually trying to buy them and your vids is like showing which one is better. lol
Nice moves by the Flanker pilot.
1st round the Flanker should have done a Cobra to avoid overshoot. But easier said than done in heat of battle
yea, I was thinking the same thing. Also in I think the 3rd fight where he dropped down, he should've kept himself high for a little longer
dude that first fight was like a DCS talent show act holyy
I wish we did a little tac view again; that was always super fun
In this particular flight, which head track did you use? VR, trackir or eye tracker?
Both were pretty good and close.
The Su27 is a great looking Jet😊
To be honest, all russian fighters including Su-27 look weird to me comparing with western counterparts.
@@WNrHuot idk in terms of looks I really prefer the russian desgins - especially the look of the Su57 is so sattisfying to me... the only western jet that kinda comes close is the YF23 desgin
yes, I love how the Su-27, 30, 33 and 35 look!
It would be interesting to see an F-16XL in DCS.
I'm not sure if the planes exist in these sims yet, but I'd love to see some WW2 naval aircraft like the hellcat, wildcat, corsair dauntless diver bomber, Zero, ext
Not just knifes fight in a phone booth. It's knifes fight by MMA technique within an oversized sleeping bag.
Round 1 was awesome!
Hey GS. You may have answered this before but I’m wondering if there really is such a thing as “jet wash” like from Top Gun. If so, is it possible to stall out an aircraft? Help. Please!!
I think you should fly some Su-35s ;)
Gran combate !!!
"No es la flecha, es el indio"
"Is not the arrow, is the indian"
No fue el F16, fue el piloto.
Thank you for another awesome video.
That Su-27 has so much nose authority!
Gotta ❤ the Vulcan!
10:50 kinda reminds me of this scene from Indiana Jones, where this one guy flexes his sword and Indie just straight up shoots him 😂
Are you still using the Tobii eye tracker? or are you using the tried and true TrackerIR in this vid?
8:00 He had blue eyes!
In these fights with only 2 IR missiles I think shooting after the 1st turn is a waste. Its defended successfully most of the time. Better to save the missile for a better shot. Also it makes sense to hold on to one missile so the other fighter can't go to the rate fight after the deck transition.
Good fight!
Thinking about the f-16 vs NGAD bfm? Maybe that could out rate the f-16
When that Battlefield Theme kicks in!
You were so lucky in that first round.
Will you do more "modern" dogfights with IR missiles?
Wouldn't it bei interesting to see same aircraft Fights, like Flanker vs. Flanker, Eurofighter vs. Eurofighter etc. ?
That'll just show who is the better pilot... speaking of which, just how good IS GS in the DCS World?
I kinda believe that anyone playing in DCS is aware of GS... and they are honing their skills to make an attempt to challenge him in a guns only or Fox2 fight.
I've yet to see the chivalrous "throwing down of a gauntlet" as of yet.
It's the MMA of the Air. Pretty soon it'll be a PayPerView event. Ha!
Reflecting on Round 1, was ditching to the rate fight out of the question? Was he too stuck in your control zone to think about ditching to the rate?
Hey could someone link me the cinimatic dogfight video GS did a while back, wanted to watch it again but can't find it.
awesome fight. round 3 you could have high fived the other pilot when he got that close. I still would like to see an F-4 Phantom vs Unknown. see what she can do.
Hit the brake and he'll fly right by!
I didnt even know an F16 could manuever that slow meaningfully
I keep expecting the battlefield music to start every time you play a montage.
Would like to see how an F16 Vista would fair against a Sukhoi 27.
could you do a video similar to this one but with a CFT equipped Viper
We need to see the F-22 vs the YF-23
The first kill was a ridiculous move by him 🥺
i'm here for a long time and i allways forget to coment.. here we go.
First Dogfight was epic!
At least i allways leave a like .... =b
Did u see that flanker literally turn it's nose into u in the 2nd round like damn
Salute to TOXIC! well played pilot . Next ask Toxic to be in Su35 then lets ur structures GS 😅
1st fight was Spicy
What does the computer saying "counter!"mean?
How many flares do these things have?
Great, exciting vid!
Why on skinny load like this 9X are always putted on wingtips, but if Viper is with bags, TGP, bombs, etc AMRAAMs are on wingtips and Sidewinders under wings?
Sorry I know nothing about this but what is a 9x and WES?
Hi, a 9x is a type of missile, and a WEZ is an Weapon Employment Zone, like an effective envelope where the missile can hit a target. (max range and min range)