The Sleep Token Situation…
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Why can’t people just enjoy music and not be fucking weirdos. Ppl need to get outside and make some friends
Isn’t their gimmick that they’re a cult spreading the word of their cult so people join?
@@GG-kn2seno, they’re nothing like a cult. their gimmick is their masks and keeping their identity secret whilst saying ‘Worship’, having their own alphabet etc.
But there are some Sleeptoken fans that are insanely fucking weird, creepy and perverse and take things overboard. When joining the ST discord server the first rule is to not sexualise the band members because they’re sick and tired of it.
@@GG-kn2se Isn't that just part of their lore and fictional story, like Ghost has the whole Satanic church thing? In Ghost's case, it's not serious, it's just for the image.
Yes, but they also wish to remain completely anonymous. We should respect their privacy. They're as entitled to theirs just as much as anyone else.@@GG-kn2se
@@GG-kn2se bruh, aint no mf way you are serious right now
"She hates masked bands" is DC super villain levels of motivation.
I was thinking also John Jonah Jameson levels lol
scooby doo villain levels even
Don’t show her any dubstep or riddim DJ
As a person who never looked into who Sleep Token actually were and really got into the lore aspect, that would crush me if they unmasked because some messed up fans decided to be felons and just dox band members’ addresses, like how screwed up in the head do you have to be to think that’s okay… granted I’ll still listen to the band, but these people have genuinely crossed the line in terms of respecting these guys’ rights to privacy and I hope the band goes after whoever did this
I hope that the bass player at least takes action against the person cause there's a good chance he's gonna have to move too a new address now cause of this psycho
Rights to privacy while you perform work in the public? Fuck off entitled kids lmao. Quit being ashamed or change?
You have no expectation of privacy outside your home.
Don't look into it if you don't wanna know, coz it seems like they've been revealed.
Personally i was happy to let them be anonymous. I like the lore, but more importantly, I respect these artists' desire to be anonymous.
If that's what they want, then let them be anonymous.
Besides, who cares who they are? They make great music that I enjoy listening to. Thats more than enough for me
@@1donniekakfine, sure. Not you shouldn't have to worry about people showing up at your damn house like crazy ass stalkers
Sleep Token could be my Barber and I'd still listen to them.
Is your barber a lame ass weird Pseudo-Metal bad vocalist?... Lol
Well yeah
Do you not listen to your barber?
@@mangopie7602new single from Sleep Token - Tilt left
@@mangopie7602They get paid to cut hair, not talk.
I still STRONGLY believe that Vessel might be my 67 year old Hispanic father. Holding out hope.
Can't be. Otherwise he'd be El Señor Vessel lol
Hes a young man leo faulkner
@@codyquinn8646 no, his name is obviously Bruce Wayne... idiot
I'm comfy in my "I don't need to see their faces or know their names" corner. I love a good gimmick and I love it when bands commit to it. I do hope they won't unmask, but mostly I hope they'll figure out a way around this and keep producing amazing music 💜
this!
Its not even just a gimmic it lets them make art without the creepy press in thier personal life
@@austinklaas8866 absolutely 💯 and seeing this mess you can really understand why they were doing it.
I was today years old when I realized I don't know what anybody in Slipknot besides Corey Taylor looks like.
After seeing Corey's face I dont wanna see the others faces lol
How??? 💀💀💀💀😅😅😅
Jim Root is pretty famous though.
@@aar0n357 I've never cared enough to look. The only reason I know what Corey kinda looks like is from when everyone was obsessed with his opinion on everything.
@@snooginsivmf 😂😂😂😂😂
So apparently this was all done by a single crazy fanatic on an obscure messageboard. I think many need to remember this wasn’t an entire fanbase, but ONE PERSON had the power to cause this much chaos.
Still Completely wild.
Not sure what part is worse. That one person is so unhinged or that its even possible for a complete stranger to get this info.
This band rules but their fans are the absolute fucking worst. The second they all started spamming 'worship' in comment threads, we should have assumed they were largely pos degenerates
Yeah.... SCREW THAT GUY
Then I sincerely hope that one person gets charged with a crime.
You wanna talk about their identities and tell people their names whatever, that's one thing.
But birth certificates and addresses? That's illegal for a reason
She hated sleep token she wasn't a fan
If I made a conscious decision to remain anonymous and separate my art from my personal life, someone going out of their way to ruin that would be a nightmare for me.
Oh so your famous then eh?
@JSmith91 uh no, and I don't want to be. But these guys obviously were trying to keep their identities secret and maintain some privacy and some fuckwad ruined it.
@@mastod0n1 lol I gotcha. I was just picking at you.
@@JSmith91 ah no worries
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It’s one thing for fans to say “yeah III is actually John Cena”.
This thing is crazy.
I don't see that myself.. 😅
Doxxing is a crime
*And Sssniperwolf took this personally*
F that creature
Sssniperwolf: "and I'm standing outside III's house right now, y'all. Hey! Did y'all write Granite about me?! Come out here and show me your face!"
^ advocating doxxing and kiddie diddling is a wild choice
@@nun6661 bot/bait
None of this is the flex you think it is. Get some help!
I refuse to perceive who they are under the mask unless they take off their masks in front of my own eyes. I do not see it. I respect them too much for that shit
Same. I accidentally stumbled upon their identities (don't look at the album credits on Apple Music, maybe this has changed) and I refuse to share that information and I actively try to forget it, but to your point it ultimately doesn't' matter to me.
LOL. This was me three years ago
But if you find vessels name his old music is great.
Thank you, exactly this.
I accidentally found out their names just coz I read about what happened.
And I've already forgotten those names because i don't want to know.
As far as I'm concerned, they're so a nameless collective until THEY say otherwise
@@MichaelCarlestill just some random dude making music. Don't know him or anything about him except that he makes good music. Cuz that's really all I want or need to know
Firmly in the "don't care who they are under the mask" camp.
These guys are passionate, skilled, and wildly clever and thats all I need to know. Their music speaks for them.
For real the not knowing who they are under the mask for me is just a bonus if they came out showing their faces now I still will listen to them.
I’m sure many of us have thought ourselves as crazy at one point in their lives…and then I see stuff like this and it really makes me feel so much better about my mental state 😂
It would make sense from their lore if they unmask. Their last album of the trilogy has been released, their last song of their last album has the mask ripped off, and its a send off song to their entire trilogy.
I could see it being a deliberate, calculated choice to create biz, coz these dudes are so clever and EVERYTHING they do is so well thought out.
And if that's the case, and it wasn't done psycho fan, but a choice they made, then cool.
In all likelihood though it was some deranged fan, in which case, not freaking cool.
Like damn, just let artists make art in the way they want to.
And it's not like people didn't know before. You could find their names of you did a little digging and really wanted to.
But personally I never cared. And as far as I'm concerned, they're still just some random dudes in masks, making music is like. Coz that's enough for me.
@@bottomofastairwellDid you really need to make all of those separate paragraphs? 🤣
@@HyzerFlip guess not. i feel like shit is easier to read when it's not endless run on sentences with no grammatical structure though, and maybe that's just me cuz i'm dyslexic so breaking up all the words makes it look less messy and makes it easier to read and i find that helpful which is why i do that, but i guess you do you, and besides, it's not like i'm out here telling you how to type so whatever
This is why we can't have nice things..
My guess about the social media situation is that theyre probably entering a new "era" of music especially with all the new masks and outfits recently. "Nothing lasts forever" and the tweet linking the ascensionism mv could maybe mean they're ascending to a new phase? Either way I just hope these parasocial "fans" go outside and touch an entire forest lmfao
you know they wont and don't even know the smell of 100% pure oxygen LMAO
And sucks to hear about them being doxxed
Also please check out NOTHING MORE’s new single, I think Nik would like their high energy and hard hitting breakdowns
They're more boring and unexiting than going to the church with your grandma...
@@IsaacTuduriLlabresWhat you think of the music doesn’t matter, it’s their livelihood and careers we’re talking about here. Sane people don’t wish misfortune on artists they hate.
@@IsaacTuduriLlabres I bet you are so much more better than them.
@@IsaacTuduriLlabres I hate Sleeptoken, but they don't deserve to be doxxed just because I dislike their music. If you're gonna say some stupid shit, at least say it with your chest instead of being a coy douchebag.
@@IsaacTuduriLlabresyour reply makes total sense. Also, unexiting? What are they never leaving the room?
"I don't even know where my own birth certificate is..." well there's an easy fix for that, just start a masked band
yes iii used to stream and it was awesome watching him play COD knowing who he was but also not saying shit along with other ppl to just sty humble and enjoy it and not ruining it for everyone. I also used to follow ii's personal insta til ppl ruined that too....... its now private
On top of clearing their Instagram and having their bio “Nothing Lasts Forever” Blacklit Canopy uploaded a live song after 9 years of not having posted anything and they sing “Nothing is Infinite”
Been a fan of ST since 2020. dont give a shit about the lore or who they are, the music fucking rocks. more music please. the people trying to destroy something beautiful are horrible human beings and should be prosecuted. let it fucking be. yes, i know who they are. dont give a shit.
sleep token is just bad brah, get another band.
Missing the point of the “you ruined it for us” it was more about the band retracting their social media and possibly causing them to second guess tours and the timeline of releasing new material.
Love me some Sleep Token, it sucks to hear about the creeps stalking them and doxxing them along with the birth certificate stuff... It's just weird and unfortunate coming from the cultish fans or whatever they are 😅 I'm not that tied into it.
I think the performance they put on bring on this kind of degeneracy. Anonymous band? Definitely getting stalked
5:50 The best part of the video 🤣 I'm dying of laughter
Wtf😂😂😂
It's so fvcked, think about it! I can't even get ahold of my own birth certificate without taking my photo ID and social security card to the county clerk's office and then paying for it 🙄🙄🙄
5:02 That was me listening to the song Drugs going, "This guy sounds a lot like the lead singer of Slipknot." having never listened to Stone Sour
The amount of people that thought they were breaking up because of the instagram wipe was straight up C H I L D I S H
It’s still confuses me how do you even have access to a birth certificate that fast?
A birth certificate isn’t classed as private info in the UK, if you have enough info about the person you can purchase a copy of a birth certificate from the council.
my friend did it i was like how tf did u get my birth certificate mind u hes in a different country lmao
You need to, at least, provide your full name (all your names), date and place of birth. In some countries you even have to prove your identity by sending your identity card or filling an administrative form. Anyway, it's not easy to get a birth certificate.
I was wondering the same.
2 is the new drummer of Slipknot
To be honest no ones gonna enjoy them any less if we know who they are and stuff. Its still messed up though.
Regarding them fully getting rid of their masks, I don't think they'll do it. Tl;dr - the mystery is what pulls people in and makes the band stand out.
1. The whole narrative point of Sleep Token is shedding personal identity and creating for the sake of art and for the glory of Sleep. Getting rid of the masks would basically mean they would also get rid of their entire narrative, which is part of the allure. Idk if you know of Heilung, but it's comparable to if Heilung started performing in just casual clothes, completely invalidates the main point of the performance.
2. The masks (especially Vessel's mask) are super iconic. Without them they would become just another band, slotting nicely between Loathe or Bad Omens with some spice added.
3. There's still many people who respect Vessel's wish for their identities to not be publicly distributed. As much as we love to hate on metal news outlets, even they have been pretty good about not spreading the information which (as Nik says) is already out there. I think it's really cool that after a year of Sleep Token's immense popularity most of the fans and community can still be respectful and not make a huge deal out of revealing their identities. I do not know their names and I don't intend to, it makes the narrative experience of listening to the band's music so much more special to me.
If they're judt another band without their maks that's not great for them. I loke their music. I don't find them to be just another band per se. It'd not.loke I see their masks from Spotify.
ALL THAT LORE WAS MADE UP BY THE FANS YOU DUMMY
I worked at a big bank a few years back and we had a bunch of large profile celebrities and politicians etc as customers. As a customer service rep as long as we knew their name we could access all of their info, address, ID, phone numbers etc. There were obviously strict rules and laws around it, but it would just take one obsessive fan working in the right place to doxx someone easily. I knew a few people who just used to just look up famous people for fun to see if they came up in our system, the boss asked about it and they stopped but realistically there was nothing stopping them just posting it all online if they wanted to
Two years to build a libray. Two hours to burn it to the ground
I agree with Tank's take on this. I think that it is a rumor that got blown out of proportion. From what he says, there is no proof whatsoever that this actually happened
someone did obtain their birth certificates and threaten to release them alongside other personal and sensitive information, but i dont believe she ever actually did it.
Probably cuz she didn't have shit....🤔
@@madhya someone SAID that they obtained those birth certificates. i can say and threaten anything too. it's a dumb and awful thing to say (especially to a fanbase as devoted as sleep token's) but whether she actually did or didn't no one knows. media outlets and content creators just ran with it as if it was a fact and no one fact-checked anything lol
That tour dropped conveniently right after all this drama 😂
III was also conveniently back on instagram 😂
Yup so conveniently after a year of more than 250 concerts... Like they need drama to drop a Tour...
There's still no confirmation that they actually posted the birth certificate or home addresses. Just threats that they had the info and were going to release it.
Exactly, this is 2024 and if someone shared the actual birth certificate or address that shiz would be ALL over the internet by now via screenshots.
So like this maybe didn't even happen?
Something a bit strange, "Nothing lasts forever" showed up on a poster and shirt for sale on the Sleep Token store a month or 2 before Eden was announced and was in the same style as the new artwork. It was up for only a couple of hours and taken down, never to be seen again. I thought maybe it was the original name of the album but it was changed? Always some weird stuff with these guys, love it :D
You just can't win in the world we live in. People will hate them for being masked and people will hate them if they decide to take them off.
I wouldnt say 7-8 years is a fast rise to fame. Theyve been grinding for a while now 💪
To think I felt bad for finding out who the drummer is lol
This is another level.
The thing with slipknot is that 3 of the 9 members were in bands outside of slipknot, then for Vol.3 the all did interviews unmasked for the dvd. It was a gradual process for them
Unmasking would really make people believe that doxing is the go to option when they want to unmaske a band or a member of a band. I think this would only make things worst in the future
Fans that did that are why we can’t have nice things.
i don't wanna know who sleep token is under the mask. i don't want the importance of the masks and anonymity to be ruined.
I just enjoy the music don't really give a shit about a musicians personal life, then again I'm over 30 now at some point you don't go crazy about artists anymore.
lmao i listened to them and was like " dude there just a male evanescence"
for those wondering the instagram of iii is back and they just anounced a new tour
I've been a fan of vessel since he went by a different name, I know his real name and everything and that changes nothing. His old music is just as unique and appealing as Sleep Token.
The big reason of why the members are masked outside of the sleep god narrative is because all 4 members are already famous people from different backgrounds who came together to make this band what it is.
What if the bass player kept it so secret he didn't even know he was the bass player. Like in Fignt Club how he didn't know he was Tyler Durden 😮
Nick! Yes at least at one time a few months ago, iii was following you on twitch. I saw it during a live twitch.
i never knew about this band until i started watch you which has been for about a month..
Most brain dead comment section yet
accurate take ty for bringing sanity into this situation
Nik: "Why would someone do this???"
Also Nik: "because RAIN IS ABOUT FEMALE EJACULATION!!!!"
“May have just ruined Sleep Token for everyone” 5:38
WTF? It’s not III’s fault he has a damn birth certificate
No address was leaked. No birth certificate was leaked. She said she bought them. That’s it.
The vocalist of Sleep Token is James Marriot in a mask
Somebody find Nick birth certificate. His real name will be Nikolay Noktoornov 1991 Moskva 😅
Me learning there's a Sleep Token situation based on this video's title
Another 101% viewership chart video! Let's go!
I don't get the sleep token thing. I checked out a couple songs and they just aren't for me. Putting their personal info out there is jacked though.
2:17 “only 2 and 4” “prime numbers are gone”
Man they have come too far to go unmasked due to someone that ruined what they wished to keep private. You cant bend the knee to someone who cheap-shotted you. I wish them the best. Messed up.
1:49 - Every Time I Die (Distress Rehearsal) moment*
When kpop fans start to feel less crazy to Sleep Token fans, that's a bad sign.
Had Sleep Token been a kpop band they wouldn't have lasted a week without their identities leaked 😂 Some kpop fans are straight up stalkers
Oh this is nothing compared to some of the craziest Kpop fan stories
Gotta love a band using doxxing for the algorithm 😂 this band and fanbase is painful. What a middle finger to the people that actually have to deal with being doxxed, not to get clicks before announcing a major tour
unmasking tour would be wild, everyone wants to see that ritual when they unmask for latest new single in live
I used to tell ppl slipknot was actually mighty mighty bosstones
😂😂😂
hahahahaaa
Dude I had no clue who they were and I waslooking stuff in Pinterest for a proyect, then my curiosity came in and wanted to check some of their pictures live and looked that up and literally got a pin of they whithout their masks and doing regular stuff. It's depressing that people break things appart for the rest.
No you didn’t.
Why is everyone praising Sleep Token for their new album when Sundowing is just a superior album. The trend makes no fucking sense.
I lost everything in the Stone Sour joke cause I love the make this same joke to those tr00 metal guys saying "Omg, don't you think that the guy from Foo Fighters is so similar to that old drummer from Nirvana, I guess if he was still alive he would look just like him" just to see their reactions hahaahahah
I was talking to a friend of mine yesterday: I have to agree with Tank, and both scenarios are f*cked up. If this was made by a fan, it sucks, but also if it's a market scheme it sucks too cause I don't like to be played on my feelings
Living in this post truth era it's tough =/
Damn. First SSSniperwolf to JJJacksfilms, and now Sleep Token? Why is this still happening?
...imagine thinking anonymity/privacy still exists in 2023...
I don't care what they look like and who they are and to be honest the face of the band is the masks. To this day I recognise Corey quicker with his mask on than without
SLEEP TOKEN announce 2024 North American tour that's why they wiped their social
How does leaking a birth certificate change anything? Like I get the address but birth certificate doesn’t really show anything that we don’t know. You could look up the sleep token members and get their names before this.
She probably hates that show the masked singer
as a sleeptoken fan, i just cant imagine how painful it must feel to see your own fans do this shit to you. like if i was a band, it would absolutely crush me if this is what my fans did to US. like theyre wearing a mask for a reason, sure they all made music before the band BUT as fans, you should respect the decision to now remain anon. thats how respect works , and if you are a fan, you should understand that and abide by that.
like, if someone tells me they prefer to go by the name Bob but they used to go by robert, im not going to go out of my way to only call them robert
also i dont think that person who said it ruined the band meant like "oh man now i know who they are" i think they meant they ruined the band for everyone as in they may not act the same anymore because of the breach in trust
I also have no idea where my own birth certificate is 😂😂
WHAT IS RAIN ABOUT?
I am 5 . And once that I want to be undercover I don't appear.
The weird thing is people have known who they are for years now. I personally know who they are and I still love the anonymity and enjoy their characters. People are so fucking weird.
Still dont get why this band is so big. It just seems like a few people said they liked them and then the rest of the world was like well if these two people like them they must be good. Dont get the hype
If you know where to look… vessel actually puts clues in his lyrics as to who he is.
Like...?
@@craigsovilla6578 black lit canopy is his other band. He says those exact words in one of their songs
"Nothing lasts forever" has been a slogan since the beginning. dont think there's too much to read into there.
Is this why bradley did a video attacking sleep token out of blue ?
Now things makes sense, that clown used this situation to bait clicks...
I imagine Sleep Token will do the same thing Ghost/TF did and stop worrying about the anonymity for those who want to know... but remain masked at shows.
Did anyone see the vocalist old band "backlit canopy" just uploaded a song couple days ago?
That’s wild, and withthegirl that everyone thinks sleep token songs are written about
so are they the guys from Imagine Dragons or not?
does anyone talk about mushroom head? lol I still havent really seen their faces
only 2 and 4 left ? confirmed new music in 2024
You can't even do anything with a birth certificate. It doesn't prove that someone works in a certain profession. All it does is show that someone...exists? So like...so?
The home address is another story, obviously. That can have actual consequences, but leaking a birth certificate does nothing.
I would love to know what the record is for musician to stay anonymous the longest. Marshmallow??
One thing that baffles me. Maybe I'm overthinking it or something.
I see countless posts everywhere wondering who they are. People who seem to have made it their personality to be fans of them. Its sadly becoming worse than Tool fans. And thats saying alot. Now I'm rambling. Point is this.
I see all these posts and essays breaking down who they might be and...
Its not hard to find who they are. Its literally easy. Tank did a video on it the other day and he knows who they are. And he confirmed that one google search points you to who they are. Actually who they are. Not theories or maybes. But facts.
I know who they are and im not necessarily a fan. I thought everyone knew this because its so easy to find. So, what are these people doing making it such a big deal to know when its easy to know?
So, why are people acting like its some thing thats hard to do and
Nothing was leaked. If it actually was, there would be screenshots of it EVERYWHERE!
Metal community might have some weird ass controversies, but at least it never comes CLOSE to whatever the hell is going on with Taylor Swift Twitter fans
Sleep Token ending now would be like when Refused dropped 'The Shape of Punk to Come' and then that was it.
So there is a precedent for it.
Not saying that's what they do, but a HUGE band did it then.
if refused really called it a day after the shape of punk to come they would have been credible. but the reunion and the cyberpunk soundtrack was just embarrasing
Refused weren’t big when they broke up. They released ‘shape’ and no one cared. They played a basement show to 40 people and was cut off from cops and then called it quits. Only afterward people realised how amazing that record was and started to give the props they deserved.
This is why we can't have nice things
He said something about something similar happening to Bad Omens. What happened to Bad Omens?