Air Flavor Pro for the MPC One/Live/X series has a beautiful emulator for the SP1200. Amazing distortion and saturation. Great vid, too, brother! Keep up the great work!
Lol, the plugin is fine, but it is still a bit reducer or bit crusher, it is good to have something like that, because today's DAWs do not allow your sound card to reduce bit frequencies to a certain point. I have a real S950 with a floppy disk drive, and a 100MB ZIP/JAZ, that's really a lot of space for 12-bit mono 48khz percussion hits, the trick of using 33 to 45 rpm disks was a great trick, it makes complete instrumentals to put on a 1.44mb floppy disk, they never sampled in stereo because it took up twice as much and that could cause problems. In the old versions of the most famous DAWs, the configuration allowed recording below 16 bits 48khz, and I remember that with Cubase SX I could record external audio at 14 bits mono/stereo with 32khz, if the sound is dark and turned off, but the details are not degraded, they remain in a less bright sound, as if someone had turned off the equalizer, but the sound began to crackle when you went to 6 bits. With 8 bits we could record well-audible sound without crackles. Another alternative for Mac users is Player Pro, a powerful tracker for composing only with samples and with an audio editor that allows you to manipulate everything and digitize audio at 12 bit 48khz or less. can degrade an audio jack up to 4 bits. ¨Milky Tracker¨ also works and is great. I use protools free 3.4 for an ibook G4 with mac os9.2 and I really love it because I can use many bit-based audio configurations, without a doubt another very powerful thing to make audio edits for that 90s sound, Pro Tools Free It does not need ilock, it works with any Mac computer, and can be used as 8 audio tracks or 16 mono, it also has its typical digirack plugins although they are the basic ones. There are abandoned things that can be so great that no one values them anymore, but I'm happy about that because with 80 dollars I can get a high-end Mac G4 and do many things with it that people try to emulate. But having a complete protoosl 5 with sample cell is a totally unknown world for any generation Z millennial. I'm glad you come back to these tips again and thank you for this interesting video.
I use the Inphonic RX1200 vst for making beats and I'm blown away by how good it is. When you speed the sample up and then PITCH it down, it adds those iconic SP1200 artifacts. Highly recommended!
I like all your videos but I love this one! I am not in rap at all but I love your final track! As a former synth demonstrator/salesman, I can say you sold this plug-in like a pro! Thank you and bravo for this good and enjoyable demo 🙏🙏🙏👏👏👏👍👍
that's so interesting that there was research on how the SP achieved those sounds and that people were able to recreate it. I wonder if there's research on other pieces of famous sampleware, like the sp303 or MPC that people have begun to emulate.
I don't know about SPs, but for MPC, Akai is actually replicating themselves within their free MPC Beats software, only you need to migrate everything into using that daw 😅 Edit: for SPs, Roland is doing the same thing with Zenology FX plugin, not free and subscription needed :(
@@playpm thank you for the response! one more question, since i got you here: i've been trying to find a good way to do DJ scratching via software but can't seem to find a good plug in to emulate it well. I started trying to look into certain small scratching equipment, like the ones that Teenage Engineering came out with but they were too expensive for me. do you have any recommendations?
I actually have a plan to make one, but I haven't started the research on DJ scratching nuances. So before my solution, you can totally try Mixxx, which is a free professional dj software, will be powerful enough for you to make some scratching noises.
Nice job as usual. Love the rap! I’ll have to check out the SP950. Next, we need some urgent GAS therapy for the new woovebox, which looks/sounds pretty great.
I hadn't seen this one before, sounds really good. I use chipcrusher by plogue, it has a nice a SP model as well as a bunch of other models. I love the channel, I'm always excited to see when you drop a new video ❤
Amazing content man. Glad to have found you. I hereby challenge owners of the original Sp1200 to make a better beat and they would have to explain in the rhymes why the hardware sounds „better" and at the same time not feel silly while insisting on it :-)
Back in the 90s you needed hardware cause computers were very very limited back then. The latency was so bad this is how fruity loops took off, their design helped reduce the latency issue via step sequencing rather than the kind of realtime sequencing you can easily do today even on a pre-paid cellphone
This is definitely a great plugin. I've had the demo on my system for a while now... personally I prefer Inphonik's products as you can create your own kits, do the tuning and EQ thing, etc. It's also very well priced.
Yes when it comes down to it, the extra thousands $ spent on owning particular pieces of esteemed gear isn't at all about making music - its just about the idea of collecting electronic music instrument history. It's alluring to the music-maker, yes, and contributes to major GAS, but as you point out its downright silly to think that spending thousands to get the machine which fueled hits 20-30 years ago would be a good workflow today.
@@playpm I think it focuses on both, but you might be right in that the SP950 plugin does focus more on emulating the sound of not only the SP1200 but also the S950.
As an owner of the grey SP i can say for sure it’s absolutely not sounding like the original. Sounds like a bitcrusher, nothing more. You don’t have to pitch drums on the SP and most of the iconic users didn’t do this in the 90s. Listen to ACQ, Beastie Boys, Pete Rock…. There is not much ringing noise going on, has more to do with the 12bit DAC. This thing knocks really hard when you sample. Is it worth the cash? Not sure. ;d. But nevertheless nice video. Best
Thanks for sharing, I think we should compare the same source with different methods then record them all then compare to tell the difference, would you like to take some time and go through this with me? I'm really curious about this too.
@@playpm Don´t waste your time. You simply can't fake a 12bit Sampler. Same thing with the S900/950, 12bit Rolands, Emax, SCS 440.... These Samplers can sound very clean but they have THAT punch. These artifacts ring noise sounds when pitched down are only a very small part of that sound. Best
Good video. However, nothing sounds like an SP1200. How can you criticize the “workflow” if u don’t have one. Have you ever had the chance to physically use one, or even seen one IRL?
A sound can't be iconic. Only imagery is iconic - i.e., a person or thing whose Image is famous. Just as flavors, scents, sensations, ideas, emotions, etc., cannot be iconic, niether can sounds.
Wow, so you’re telling me in 2023 there are vst’s and other software that replicates and hardware while adding convenience? WOW thanks man, such valuable information, nobody knows that !
To be fair it's a project by the co-founder of E-MU who also designed (co-designed?) the SP range. He's having them handmade in the US using almost all original parts except for some minor, modern updates to the PCB that don't effect sound. There's a bunch of QoL updates to the machine, it has double the sampling time, and it's fully backward compatible with original SP12/1200 files. It's a boutique 1:1 sounding remake by the original designer with tons of upgrades that are impossible or costly on an original unit. $4k is expensive (I could never afford it) but it's such a niche thing for an audience that already owned or wanted to own a sampler that sells used for that amount or more. The Rossum website goes through the build and components and it's an interesting read. I look at this project like more of a faithful recreation for really devoted fans vs a cash grab. It's expensive but that's to be expected in a 'no corners cut' project like this and from everything I've read it delivers on it what it promises.
I was interested and adamant on getting a S2400 by ISLA Instruments. However for now I'm opting for TAL-Sampler. I already have this SP950 plugin. Its good, but the TAL-Sampler has a few extra work flow features I want for making DnB, etc.
@@cnnxcore Thanks for the additional information. It is a good point that niche audiences that love this type of gear may look at 4k as not a terrible price to pay. Side note: I wish I knew more about electronics. Circuit design looks like a great thing to know, but sadly I've already got way too many projects that I probably won't finish. lol
Thanks for adding up, I've been gassing around on it for a long long time, but I can never afford the cost for purchasing it 😂 (money, space, relationship)
Actually you need to pay a little bit to use vcvrack as a plugin in daw, even with free Cardinal you still need to put time and learn. The core value of certain plugin is saving time and effort imo, plug and go, super efficient.
You are like the legend synth hero that synthesizer community desperately needed.
Appreciated, I'll try to fit this niche corner in my way.
One channel where im happy to see sponsored content
came for the GAS therapy, stayed for the rap masterpiece.
I use this very often!! Definitely a fan of the SP950, good stuff sir!
Thanks for stopping by my hero!!!
Air Flavor Pro for the MPC One/Live/X series has a beautiful emulator for the SP1200. Amazing distortion and saturation. Great vid, too, brother! Keep up the great work!
Lol, the plugin is fine, but it is still a bit reducer or bit crusher, it is good to have something like that, because today's DAWs do not allow your sound card to reduce bit frequencies to a certain point.
I have a real S950 with a floppy disk drive, and a 100MB ZIP/JAZ, that's really a lot of space for 12-bit mono 48khz percussion hits, the trick of using 33 to 45 rpm disks was a great trick, it makes complete instrumentals to put on a 1.44mb floppy disk, they never sampled in stereo because it took up twice as much and that could cause problems.
In the old versions of the most famous DAWs, the configuration allowed recording below 16 bits 48khz, and I remember that with Cubase SX I could record external audio at 14 bits mono/stereo with 32khz, if the sound is dark and turned off, but the details are not degraded, they remain in a less bright sound, as if someone had turned off the equalizer, but the sound began to crackle when you went to 6 bits. With 8 bits we could record well-audible sound without crackles.
Another alternative for Mac users is Player Pro, a powerful tracker for composing only with samples and with an audio editor that allows you to manipulate everything and digitize audio at 12 bit 48khz or less. can degrade an audio jack up to 4 bits. ¨Milky Tracker¨ also works and is great.
I use protools free 3.4 for an ibook G4 with mac os9.2 and I really love it because I can use many bit-based audio configurations, without a doubt another very powerful thing to make audio edits for that 90s sound, Pro Tools Free It does not need ilock, it works with any Mac computer, and can be used as 8 audio tracks or 16 mono, it also has its typical digirack plugins although they are the basic ones.
There are abandoned things that can be so great that no one values them anymore, but I'm happy about that because with 80 dollars I can get a high-end Mac G4 and do many things with it that people try to emulate. But having a complete protoosl 5 with sample cell is a totally unknown world for any generation Z millennial.
I'm glad you come back to these tips again and thank you for this interesting video.
Appreciated, hands down for all the experience sharing!
I bought this sp950 a few years ago and i still use it now on me drums, fantastic little gem this one, 👌👌great Pal!
I use the Inphonic RX1200 vst for making beats and I'm blown away by how good it is.
When you speed the sample up and then PITCH it down, it adds those iconic SP1200 artifacts.
Highly recommended!
I used to do the bitcrush/low pass combo and I agree, this plug-in sounds more dynamic !!
i have been trying to make proper emu-style lofi for YEARS and it's always fallen short. i am gonna try this out FOR SURE.
I like all your videos but I love this one! I am not in rap at all but I love your final track! As a former synth demonstrator/salesman, I can say you sold this plug-in like a pro! Thank you and bravo for this good and enjoyable demo 🙏🙏🙏👏👏👏👍👍
The waveTracing SP950 is amazing and 20 bucks
that's so interesting that there was research on how the SP achieved those sounds and that people were able to recreate it. I wonder if there's research on other pieces of famous sampleware, like the sp303 or MPC that people have begun to emulate.
I don't know about SPs, but for MPC, Akai is actually replicating themselves within their free MPC Beats software, only you need to migrate everything into using that daw 😅
Edit: for SPs, Roland is doing the same thing with Zenology FX plugin, not free and subscription needed :(
@@playpm thank you for the response! one more question, since i got you here: i've been trying to find a good way to do DJ scratching via software but can't seem to find a good plug in to emulate it well. I started trying to look into certain small scratching equipment, like the ones that Teenage Engineering came out with but they were too expensive for me. do you have any recommendations?
I actually have a plan to make one, but I haven't started the research on DJ scratching nuances. So before my solution, you can totally try Mixxx, which is a free professional dj software, will be powerful enough for you to make some scratching noises.
Nice job as usual. Love the rap! I’ll have to check out the SP950. Next, we need some urgent GAS therapy for the new woovebox, which looks/sounds pretty great.
that track at the end is so dope!
Hey loved you TE video last week! 😂
GAS Therapy anthem ...love it!!
Another software option that is perhaps overlooked for aliasing artifacts when tuning samples is Renoise, or Redux(vst version of Renoise).
I hadn't seen this one before, sounds really good.
I use chipcrusher by plogue, it has a nice a SP model as well as a bunch of other models.
I love the channel, I'm always excited to see when you drop a new video ❤
Always love your videos. This is the right approach to making music.
Amazing final song!!
PS: koala's BITCOOKER internal effect is also based on the same Stanford paper.
Wow! That's amazing, you mean the one in IAP mixer?
@@playpmyes! It doesn't sound as good probably but I read the same paper and tried to implement the bitcooker similarly
Wonderful! Thanks for sharing this, also thanks for bringing the mixer, it's SUPER useful!!!
@@playpm thanks for the amazing videos!!
but what about the fixed filtered outputs on the sp1200? where is that on the plugin?
Amazing content man. Glad to have found you.
I hereby challenge owners of the original Sp1200 to make a better beat and they would have to explain in the rhymes why the hardware sounds „better" and at the same time not feel silly while insisting on it :-)
Appreciated! Actually you can check out videos from Cookinsoul, it is amazing indeed.
That ending song is fire.
That track at the end is Atmosphere-esque. Outstanding.
Interesting. Thanks for sharing. Will try!!
Man I appreciate this dude always 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
You’re the man, bro! 👊🏾
SUPER love!! Very creative and awesome !!!
👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽 shout out from France ! Keep it up
This video made my day.
you should checkout rx1200, it has better drum sampler thing going on and more features. it awesome!
Thanks for recommending, I actually bought it for my iPad, for laptops I usually go to SP950.
Correction, I own RX950 on my ipad, no rx1200 at all 😂
I really like the video the song was a surprise, very entertaining thumbs up 👍🏽
Back in the 90s you needed hardware cause computers were very very limited back then. The latency was so bad this is how fruity loops took off, their design helped reduce the latency issue via step sequencing rather than the kind of realtime sequencing you can easily do today even on a pre-paid cellphone
Dope bars man definitely I’ll check this plugin
I got this a while back as well. I need to use it more. 👍
EP-133 bit crush and low pass filter works real nice in real time
I strongly suggest you try Inphonik RX1200
Do they have ios version? Or anyone knows other SP style iOS plugins? Great video by the way!
Appreciated, currently I think it's not, but you can check out Lo-Fly Dirt on iOS, still a great alternative.
@@playpm I have that one 👍🏻 I will play with it more. 👍🏻✅
This is definitely a great plugin. I've had the demo on my system for a while now... personally I prefer Inphonik's products as you can create your own kits, do the tuning and EQ thing, etc. It's also very well priced.
love your channel, ty
Yes when it comes down to it, the extra thousands $ spent on owning particular pieces of esteemed gear isn't at all about making music - its just about the idea of collecting electronic music instrument history. It's alluring to the music-maker, yes, and contributes to major GAS, but as you point out its downright silly to think that spending thousands to get the machine which fueled hits 20-30 years ago would be a good workflow today.
Wow I’m super getting that plug-in ❤ thanks
Thanks for the tip and great song !
Can you do a video on mastering?
Really convinced by this one !
I'm down with that!!!
Sp950 is a sexy little plugin, but Espi is the goat in this category.
Yeah, I own it, but it's focusing on the workflow, not sound.
@@playpm I think it focuses on both, but you might be right in that the SP950 plugin does focus more on emulating the sound of not only the SP1200 but also the S950.
It slaps.
spitting truth
loving the rap
🙌🎶🙌🎶🙌🎶🙌🎶
Great 👍
Nice
This would be fun in AUM
sympathic dude!
As an owner of the grey SP i can say for sure it’s absolutely not sounding like the original. Sounds like a bitcrusher, nothing more. You don’t have to pitch drums on the SP and most of the iconic users didn’t do this in the 90s. Listen to ACQ, Beastie Boys, Pete Rock…. There is not much ringing noise going on, has more to do with the 12bit DAC. This thing knocks really hard when you sample. Is it worth the cash? Not sure. ;d. But nevertheless nice video. Best
Thanks for sharing, I think we should compare the same source with different methods then record them all then compare to tell the difference, would you like to take some time and go through this with me? I'm really curious about this too.
@@playpm Don´t waste your time. You simply can't fake a 12bit Sampler. Same thing with the S900/950, 12bit Rolands, Emax, SCS 440....
These Samplers can sound very clean but they have THAT punch. These artifacts ring noise sounds when pitched down are only a very small part of that sound.
Best
Good video. However, nothing sounds like an SP1200. How can you criticize the “workflow” if u don’t have one. Have you ever had the chance to physically use one, or even seen one IRL?
Great rap!!
Dynamite 👍🏻
There is also clone from isla instruments that doesn't cost so much.
The rap got the thumbs up 🔥💪🏾💯
$4K for less is nutz
🔥🔥🔥
👏👏👏
A sound can't be iconic. Only imagery is iconic - i.e., a person or thing whose Image is famous. Just as flavors, scents, sensations, ideas, emotions, etc., cannot be iconic, niether can sounds.
Next month chase bliss will release a SPedal1200 for 469€…
Just wait for the Behringer SB1200 instead, full on hardware with USB at $399 ..
truth
Inphonik way better (saying this as an sp1200, rossum, and s2400 owner who also has all the plugins)
Oh thanks for sharing the info, do you have some 1 on 1 comparisons to share? I'm also curious about this.
Am I the only one that think his voice gives ASMR ? Hehe
Bars🔥
有点意思
行
阔以阔以@@playpm
wish this came to ios
I’m pretty sure you can get similar results with Koala and Bit Juggler.
bit juggler ill have to check that out i have koala @@mooseymoose
Rx1200
lol
🤣
youre trippin. that plugin is not even close to an SP1200... foh with that shit
Wow, so you’re telling me in 2023 there are vst’s and other software that replicates and hardware while adding convenience? WOW thanks man, such valuable information, nobody knows that !
doesn't sound like an SP1200 at all beside of this it does not deliver groove. it?s just a bit reduction fx that doesn't even sound good
I apologize 😢 no disrespect intended, but that is the absolute worst rap song i have ever heard 😂
Lol it SHOULD be, respect for real rappers 🙌🙌🙌
doesnt sound nothing like an sp1200 sorry.....
I'm all for companies and people making money, but $4000? .. uh, no thanks.
To be fair it's a project by the co-founder of E-MU who also designed (co-designed?) the SP range. He's having them handmade in the US using almost all original parts except for some minor, modern updates to the PCB that don't effect sound. There's a bunch of QoL updates to the machine, it has double the sampling time, and it's fully backward compatible with original SP12/1200 files.
It's a boutique 1:1 sounding remake by the original designer with tons of upgrades that are impossible or costly on an original unit. $4k is expensive (I could never afford it) but it's such a niche thing for an audience that already owned or wanted to own a sampler that sells used for that amount or more.
The Rossum website goes through the build and components and it's an interesting read. I look at this project like more of a faithful recreation for really devoted fans vs a cash grab. It's expensive but that's to be expected in a 'no corners cut' project like this and from everything I've read it delivers on it what it promises.
I was interested and adamant on getting a S2400 by ISLA Instruments. However for now I'm opting for TAL-Sampler. I already have this SP950 plugin. Its good, but the TAL-Sampler has a few extra work flow features I want for making DnB, etc.
@@cnnxcore Thanks for the additional information. It is a good point that niche audiences that love this type of gear may look at 4k as not a terrible price to pay. Side note: I wish I knew more about electronics. Circuit design looks like a great thing to know, but sadly I've already got way too many projects that I probably won't finish. lol
Thanks for adding up, I've been gassing around on it for a long long time, but I can never afford the cost for purchasing it 😂 (money, space, relationship)
Your work is important and appreciated 🫡
vcvrack will do all this and more...for even less $
Thx for the info, how can I do that with vcv rack?
there are ?hundreds of modules you can use for free..so build what you want..but they do require a little learning. @@stephanscharf5524
Actually you need to pay a little bit to use vcvrack as a plugin in daw, even with free Cardinal you still need to put time and learn. The core value of certain plugin is saving time and effort imo, plug and go, super efficient.