It's nice to see that instead of buying a dedicated controller (with pads) for fingerdrumming, you simply use a generic one (with standard mini piano keys). Your GAS therapy has now been completed.
Keyboard is the only drum kit I'm any good at. I feel validated to quit lusting for pad controllers and e-kits, and practice more of what I already know. Thank you!
Mate, you talk a ton of sense! I have lugged a full drum set around for..some decades and it's not really been worth it. Your points about using keys rather than pads are really worthy..I make EDM and playing in the patterns with dynamics does really help the groove. Of course subbed! :)
I'm just starting to learn finger drumming, so your timing is perfect! I plan to join your patreon page after my current guitar class ends -- don't have time to commit to both at once! I like your basic approach to make simple things work well, and your sense of humor.
Appreciated, and when you do join it, make sure to start from #0 then each and every one by order, the difficulty will slowly hike up while bulding your fundamental skills.
I started to learn fingerdrumming recently and having something that is accessible and available is an immense help. I went with yamaha fgdp50. It is more of self-contained instrument, if one can call it like that. It is still too big to lug it around just in case I'll get few minutes to practise (although recent traffic jams made me to rethink this) but it has nice pad layout, battery, sounds and is instant way to play whenever I want. One major downside is lack of battery status indicator, more than once it just turned off when I was drumming.
Nice bass lick and already nice druming too ! I like all your videos and this one in particular : I have always been interested to make music with the smallest possible set. In the 90's I was showcasing and selling in France very expensive devices like AKAI samplers and customers were impressed by their sound quality... but when preparing my demos at home I used only inexpensive gears to make my sounds !!! I find it so gratifying to obtain good results making music with stuff that most people would consider as too basic... I am already looking forward to seeing you next video !!! Congrats and Bravo !
Yes, from personal experience, learning to fingerdrum on the rubber pads can be hard and exhausting! Had to put a lot of hours in Melodics and still going. Keys from a MIDI keyboard are a great alternative indeed!
Glad to know that I'm not alone! Plus with Melodics, you can't really practice intense clips with scrolling piano roll, the static sheet got its pros for centuries.
Some time ago, I found myself needing more than just super basic drum sounds. So for a while I consciously focused on the drum parts of songs I liked, finger drumming on the steering wheel on the way to and from school. My first keyboard was a Radioshack sample-based keyboard, with a few drum kits on it, and all my drum playing went into that. I no longer use that keyboard, but these days I've been using a midi keyboard to control an Alesis drum machine. I've felt that the keys have much better action than any dedicated drum pad controller, like you're saying -- and yeah, velocity is so inconsistent on those that it's almost useless.
Totally feel your pain! Even with the best ones from NI and Akai, the velocity is still not consistent. And yes learning drums brings more improvements to my music than learning melodic ones, it's really inspiring, so I decide to make it a thing to the world 😆
@@playpm Yeah it felt like another example of looking behind the curtain.. going from knowing what styles of drums I liked to being able to actually piece them together myself. And yeah regarding velocity, I think people should give more attention to velocity-processing plugins, like things that reshape or rescale the range to be more usable.
I absolutely agree with you about those drum pads. It's hard to play them and really use their velocity right. They seem good for doing note on or off okay. But they're hard to judge how hard to hit if you want a hard or soft sound. And if you have arthritis like I do, they hurt! I agree with you. A good midi keyboard that can sense velocity goes a LONG way. But here's the thing with that. I've found that a lot of the cheap midi keyboards hurt just as much as those pads. For instance, I've tried the cheaper Akai midi controllers, in their MPK series, and those keys are all one piece of plastic. There's no hinge on any of the keys. The plastic just bends as you push down. Playing midi controllers like those also hurt my fingers. I've found that if you really want to finger drum, you need a midi controller that doesn't have stiff keys that just bend, but has actual keys that are separate and hinged. They should offer not much resistance when you hit those keys and they can't be stiff in the slightest. The BEST thing to use in my opinion is an actual synth because the keyboards on those are usually pretty good. But if you need small and portable, keep in mind to look for a controller that doesn't have stiff keys. Those Akai MPK midi controllers are the most popular controllers around here. Everyone seems to use them, but I absolutely can't stand them.
I feel you! Currently I'm using a super dated Akai lpk one which has the worst velocity response cuz I want to train my muscles in a hard way, but when I switch to my Korg airkey, it's just so much easier to get finer dynamic. And from my experience, most of the latest generation of midi keyboard will serve you a way better job than old ones like mpk MK2 or my lpk.
Good idea! Though I'll leave my controller to be black and white to save me from color grading my videos 😆. The black key bump is already perfect for the tactile feel I'm chasing for, and for the general midi mapping drum method, the mapping never changes, perfect to keep you in the flow state.
Yeah, not only practicing, for the pads you also need to deal with pad cc remapping which will cut even more sounds out from 16. So my decision is crafting my skill to adapt to widely existing virtual drum sets.
Very cool stuff. Do you have a smart way to connect a small 25 midi keyboard and a guitar to an iphone/ipad at the same time? (Something that does not involve tons of adapters and cables).
I thought rythm is such a basic and crucial element of any music - even before melody is introduced - that musicians in general miss much not developing the skill of using drums. I was similarly kinda shocked to discover that my mini mpk keyboard had such hard rubber pads that made playing the beats uncomfortable for me - I ask whats the reason that they make it so hard, durability or what?
Ever check out anything from teletone audio? They just put out a drum sequencer that may be up your alley.. manual drumming but also some quality of life stuff. (Also it sounds amazing)
Just checked it and it's interesting and sounds amazing, great to grab some inspiration. But for this project I want to focus more on the performance part, burn the rhythm and tricks into my body and fingers, the benefit is not only I can play drums, it also improves my other instrument composing and playing skills.
Nice! Just wanted to connect two creators I respect and enjoy. Their virtual piano (Golden Age Grand) is the best fake piano I’ve ever heard, so much so I built a module just for it.
As a real drummer I’m skeptical how much expression and feel you’ll be able to achieve with fingers on a keyboard. There’s an advantage you have by being able to make large motions with all your limbs to create the groove. Plus, the level of expression of an acoustic sound source is unmatched. That’s why you don’t see a lot of guitar parts played on keyboard as well. But I’m curious to see what you’ll achieve.
Yeah, but it's funny that while mixing, people always compress the drum and other instruments just to maintain the loudness consistency which is conflicting with how one performs. And for keyboard guitar, the main reason midi composing sounds fake is the nuances on tuning, polyphony and tone variation, not dynamics imo. I think I might never get to the same dynamic level as a real drummer, but good thing is I don't make music for pro drummers lol
I finally found someone that agrees with me, keys are much easier for finger drumming than pads. I thought it was just because that's how I first started doing it way back in the 90s.
Appreciated, as far as I remember it's the pure flat wound string tone with a little bit of compression, I would recommend everyone to try flat wound strings.
Yep. I've been finger drumming since the 90s. Keys. And the general MIDI layout has been the same since the 90s. I lucked out on timing on that. :) I don't have a video of myself but a drummer friend of mine said that I'm better than him on kit. Of course you have to work to make it sound real and it's not the same because you don't have rebound and the travel time is so short that intention is tough. Real drums are more fun but plugins with finger drumming in a bedroom is great, you already covered why. It's faster tracking than the mouse. Then quantize by a tiny % to keep the feel. The double bass drum in the left had is tough because you are probably weak in the left hand and your fourth finger is very week because of how the bones are. So, idk. It's not really sexy but I love it. Then I can do the same on the OP1 with a drumkit or the Octatrack or the digitakt. But yeah, tiny midi controller like the keystep is the best. A piano action keyboard is too slow.
For the double kick, I already found the solution using my thumbs, I'll share it in the future. The hardest one for me is how to fake the snare roll with drastic dynamic, I have workarounds but still I want to achieve it in the hardcore way lol
@@playpm :) BFD and others have roll, flam and multiple snare hits which you can almost do rudiments if you pretend your index fingers are drum sticks. On a sample player, it would be very difficult.
Typical drum pads are fine, and a velocity-sensitive midi keyboard is fine, but neither one really works for my playing style. I tend to use 3 or 4 fingers on a single pad, playing notes as fast as 64ths, so I find I need bigger pads or some sort of actual drum. However, I'd take just about anything over a keyboard and mouse, which really aren't suited for the task.
There was a really good interview (years ago)on the Reason Studio channel with a guy that was unreal at finger drumming on the keyboard. I think it was when reason drums first came out, so maybe 10-12 years ago. IIRC he got into some basics of how to set things up and some of the essential movements a finger drummer needed to master.
Thanks for sharing! I'll dig his work later, I haven't seen anyone using the fingering I developed so far, but it feels great to grab more inspirations here and there~
I’ll add one more thing. Because I’m odd, I decided to get a drum kit and learn that rather than learn to finger drum. My teacher pointed me to a book called “Realistic Rock” by Carmine Appice. Lots of great grooves in there, very good stuff for a beginning drummer. It would probably be useful to someone learning finger drumming as well.
@@sv_gravity thanks for sharing, I went through his approach, it's a similar method, but we got different hand positioning and fingering, I utilize my thumbs more and separate the double hand multitasking more like a real drummer's approach. I think the one I developed is easier to get hands one and more versatile (imo).
@@playpm Absolutely. I don’t think there’s any need to do anything differently than what works for you (or anyone else). I definitely think anyone needs to find a consistent layout that works for them and practice until you can truly groove.
I've had that $40 LPK 25 keyboard for many years, I think I bought it in the 2010s. It's the coolest thing I have for my macbook and with Logic pro. Small keys really make you more skilled at being a finger drummer. I didn't have much success at first, but I also use Koala sampler for my Mac, because I bought it for ipad and it works for mac and iphone at the same time, this Koala sampler is my favorite for a long time. Thanks for the video.
well, I use my drum furniture basically on the daily. can't wait for a video like this for replacing guitar, because fortunately or unfortunately I am already a drummer 😂😂😂 and already have over a decade of experience and thousands of dollars of gear 🤭
@@playpm I'm excited to see what you do next 👀 also, calling it drum furniture made me laugh so hard. I think I'm going to have to add musical furniture to my vocabulary
You are awesome but I must admit I didn't see or hear any finger drumming in this video that would cause me to seek you out as a teacher. Maybe I missed something...
That's totally fine, it's definitely not for everyone. What I'm doing is as I'm constantly growing and getting better, I pack up my experience and knowledge to help others who are willing to learn from start but don't want to waste time going through all the digging testing and bad directions. It's more of helping and serving than teaching as a master.
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It's nice to see that instead of buying a dedicated controller (with pads) for fingerdrumming, you simply use a generic one (with standard mini piano keys).
Your GAS therapy has now been completed.
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That’s what joy 👀s like on a person’s face.
Good for you.
New journey, let’s go✌🏿💯👍🏿
Keyboard is the only drum kit I'm any good at. I feel validated to quit lusting for pad controllers and e-kits, and practice more of what I already know. Thank you!
A great idea and video to explain the GAS theory. Excellent bass riff! Keep up the good work.
Great! Sounds like a fantastic plan, I´m inspired. Thank you Michael!
I'm massively inspired by drummers too! I'll share more inspirations, stay tuned~
welcome back great seeing you again !
looking forward to this
Mate, you talk a ton of sense! I have lugged a full drum set around for..some decades and it's not really been worth it. Your points about using keys rather than pads are really worthy..I make EDM and playing in the patterns with dynamics does really help the groove. Of course subbed! :)
Im with ya! I started Finger Drumming back in days of an Atari ST and a Roland D10
Love the new spot bro, congrats. Also excited for this new series 🔥
Thumb up for the new fingerdrummer :)
thank you!! I needed this. I'm starting on finger drumming as well
I'm just starting to learn finger drumming, so your timing is perfect! I plan to join your patreon page after my current guitar class ends -- don't have time to commit to both at once! I like your basic approach to make simple things work well, and your sense of humor.
Appreciated, and when you do join it, make sure to start from #0 then each and every one by order, the difficulty will slowly hike up while bulding your fundamental skills.
Congratulations on the new apartment!!! 🤘🤘🤘🙏
very nice presentation and demonstration, you inspired me.
I started to learn fingerdrumming recently and having something that is accessible and available is an immense help. I went with yamaha fgdp50. It is more of self-contained instrument, if one can call it like that. It is still too big to lug it around just in case I'll get few minutes to practise (although recent traffic jams made me to rethink this) but it has nice pad layout, battery, sounds and is instant way to play whenever I want. One major downside is lack of battery status indicator, more than once it just turned off when I was drumming.
Nice bass lick and already nice druming too ! I like all your videos and this one in particular : I have always been interested to make music with the smallest possible set. In the 90's I was showcasing and selling in France very expensive devices like AKAI samplers and customers were impressed by their sound quality... but when preparing my demos at home I used only inexpensive gears to make my sounds !!! I find it so gratifying to obtain good results making music with stuff that most people would consider as too basic... I am already looking forward to seeing you next video !!! Congrats and Bravo !
Appreciated and kudos! Your GAS Therapy is way in front of mine lol
Very cool project
Bro, i think i saw u in one movie, there was a scene u are were being interviewed- don’t remember the name sry😂 btw amazing channel. Cheers!
Love your channel! ❤ From France !
This is very interesting! Props!
Yes, from personal experience, learning to fingerdrum on the rubber pads can be hard and exhausting! Had to put a lot of hours in Melodics and still going. Keys from a MIDI keyboard are a great alternative indeed!
Glad to know that I'm not alone! Plus with Melodics, you can't really practice intense clips with scrolling piano roll, the static sheet got its pros for centuries.
You’re such a great inspiration to me
Crazy to think some have written you off for previous content. Their loss. Our gain. Cheers.
This was so cool 🙌
Michael gives all of us legit drummers who can't use a set or have the noise or whatever the case, hope, in the way of finger drumming 🙂
Some time ago, I found myself needing more than just super basic drum sounds. So for a while I consciously focused on the drum parts of songs I liked, finger drumming on the steering wheel on the way to and from school. My first keyboard was a Radioshack sample-based keyboard, with a few drum kits on it, and all my drum playing went into that. I no longer use that keyboard, but these days I've been using a midi keyboard to control an Alesis drum machine. I've felt that the keys have much better action than any dedicated drum pad controller, like you're saying -- and yeah, velocity is so inconsistent on those that it's almost useless.
Totally feel your pain! Even with the best ones from NI and Akai, the velocity is still not consistent. And yes learning drums brings more improvements to my music than learning melodic ones, it's really inspiring, so I decide to make it a thing to the world 😆
@@playpm Yeah it felt like another example of looking behind the curtain.. going from knowing what styles of drums I liked to being able to actually piece them together myself. And yeah regarding velocity, I think people should give more attention to velocity-processing plugins, like things that reshape or rescale the range to be more usable.
I absolutely agree with you about those drum pads. It's hard to play them and really use their velocity right. They seem good for doing note on or off okay. But they're hard to judge how hard to hit if you want a hard or soft sound. And if you have arthritis like I do, they hurt! I agree with you. A good midi keyboard that can sense velocity goes a LONG way. But here's the thing with that. I've found that a lot of the cheap midi keyboards hurt just as much as those pads. For instance, I've tried the cheaper Akai midi controllers, in their MPK series, and those keys are all one piece of plastic. There's no hinge on any of the keys. The plastic just bends as you push down. Playing midi controllers like those also hurt my fingers. I've found that if you really want to finger drum, you need a midi controller that doesn't have stiff keys that just bend, but has actual keys that are separate and hinged. They should offer not much resistance when you hit those keys and they can't be stiff in the slightest. The BEST thing to use in my opinion is an actual synth because the keyboards on those are usually pretty good. But if you need small and portable, keep in mind to look for a controller that doesn't have stiff keys. Those Akai MPK midi controllers are the most popular controllers around here. Everyone seems to use them, but I absolutely can't stand them.
I feel you! Currently I'm using a super dated Akai lpk one which has the worst velocity response cuz I want to train my muscles in a hard way, but when I switch to my Korg airkey, it's just so much easier to get finer dynamic. And from my experience, most of the latest generation of midi keyboard will serve you a way better job than old ones like mpk MK2 or my lpk.
awesome vid bro , when is part 2 coming out?? im starting finger drumming today for sure.
Soon, I’m planning to introduce my fingering on the keyboard next time, stay tuned~
@@playpm nice
Can we get a GAS therapy on the RC 505 mk ii? Great stuff as always
Awesome! I love your videos.
Absolutely no matter the tool we have many way to express… can even do just clap 👏 play to make rythm
You could even colour or label different keys for different sounds too!
Good idea! Though I'll leave my controller to be black and white to save me from color grading my videos 😆. The black key bump is already perfect for the tactile feel I'm chasing for, and for the general midi mapping drum method, the mapping never changes, perfect to keep you in the flow state.
Hi Michael, another great vid! Any news on anyampIR reaper preset switching fix?
Not yet, but it still hangs in my head all the time for sure! I can't promise when it will be, but I'll let you know when it's done.
Not sure if I agree, the more modern non-MPC pads are super sensitive and you can defo get good dynamic range, but yes it needs practice
Yeah, not only practicing, for the pads you also need to deal with pad cc remapping which will cut even more sounds out from 16. So my decision is crafting my skill to adapt to widely existing virtual drum sets.
i can do both, but pads are better for dynamic and more visual when you use a kit with lot pieces
Very cool stuff. Do you have a smart way to connect a small 25 midi keyboard and a guitar to an iphone/ipad at the same time? (Something that does not involve tons of adapters and cables).
Maybe try a 1 to multiple usb extend adaptor, if you're still with lightning port then make sure the adaptor can be powered externally.
A second-hand Launchpad Pro Mk3 is perfect for this. It can do more than just that!
中古な「Launchpad Pro Mk3」がこのつもりに絶好だ。色々ができる!
Good for you, I tried the MK2 but for me it's too big, I want to be closer to my laptop keyboard to do everything rest.
I thought rythm is such a basic and crucial element of any music - even before melody is introduced - that musicians in general miss much not developing the skill of using drums. I was similarly kinda shocked to discover that my mini mpk keyboard had such hard rubber pads that made playing the beats uncomfortable for me - I ask whats the reason that they make it so hard, durability or what?
One cent, Get the Xequence AU Pads, you’re welcome! Trust me, you’d be surprised.❤❤❤
Ever check out anything from teletone audio? They just put out a drum sequencer that may be up your alley.. manual drumming but also some quality of life stuff. (Also it sounds amazing)
Just checked it and it's interesting and sounds amazing, great to grab some inspiration. But for this project I want to focus more on the performance part, burn the rhythm and tricks into my body and fingers, the benefit is not only I can play drums, it also improves my other instrument composing and playing skills.
Nice! Just wanted to connect two creators I respect and enjoy. Their virtual piano (Golden Age Grand) is the best fake piano I’ve ever heard, so much so I built a module just for it.
As a real drummer I’m skeptical how much expression and feel you’ll be able to achieve with fingers on a keyboard. There’s an advantage you have by being able to make large motions with all your limbs to create the groove. Plus, the level of expression of an acoustic sound source is unmatched. That’s why you don’t see a lot of guitar parts played on keyboard as well. But I’m curious to see what you’ll achieve.
Yeah, but it's funny that while mixing, people always compress the drum and other instruments just to maintain the loudness consistency which is conflicting with how one performs. And for keyboard guitar, the main reason midi composing sounds fake is the nuances on tuning, polyphony and tone variation, not dynamics imo. I think I might never get to the same dynamic level as a real drummer, but good thing is I don't make music for pro drummers lol
Clearly the solution here is a drum VST on a touchscreen with two drawing pens.
Nice bassline!
I finally found someone that agrees with me, keys are much easier for finger drumming than pads. I thought it was just because that's how I first started doing it way back in the 90s.
Since this video, I'm sure that I'm not alone too.
Nice bass tone
Appreciated, as far as I remember it's the pure flat wound string tone with a little bit of compression, I would recommend everyone to try flat wound strings.
Yep. I've been finger drumming since the 90s. Keys. And the general MIDI layout has been the same since the 90s. I lucked out on timing on that. :) I don't have a video of myself but a drummer friend of mine said that I'm better than him on kit. Of course you have to work to make it sound real and it's not the same because you don't have rebound and the travel time is so short that intention is tough. Real drums are more fun but plugins with finger drumming in a bedroom is great, you already covered why.
It's faster tracking than the mouse. Then quantize by a tiny % to keep the feel. The double bass drum in the left had is tough because you are probably weak in the left hand and your fourth finger is very week because of how the bones are. So, idk. It's not really sexy but I love it. Then I can do the same on the OP1 with a drumkit or the Octatrack or the digitakt. But yeah, tiny midi controller like the keystep is the best. A piano action keyboard is too slow.
For the double kick, I already found the solution using my thumbs, I'll share it in the future. The hardest one for me is how to fake the snare roll with drastic dynamic, I have workarounds but still I want to achieve it in the hardcore way lol
@@playpm :) BFD and others have roll, flam and multiple snare hits which you can almost do rudiments if you pretend your index fingers are drum sticks. On a sample player, it would be very difficult.
Oh and BFD went downhill since the buy-out, I haven't gotten used to Superior Drummer yet. :|
Yessss
Would be nice to see the pattern you are learning and try and follow along
Currently I'm still fine-tuning and testing the translating system, will share more challenges when it's super steady and versatile.
Finger drumming, because trying to kit the keys right with drumsticks is very hard. 😁
And it costs a lot 😅
Typical drum pads are fine, and a velocity-sensitive midi keyboard is fine, but neither one really works for my playing style. I tend to use 3 or 4 fingers on a single pad, playing notes as fast as 64ths, so I find I need bigger pads or some sort of actual drum. However, I'd take just about anything over a keyboard and mouse, which really aren't suited for the task.
There was a really good interview (years ago)on the Reason Studio channel with a guy that was unreal at finger drumming on the keyboard. I think it was when reason drums first came out, so maybe 10-12 years ago.
IIRC he got into some basics of how to set things up and some of the essential movements a finger drummer needed to master.
Thanks for sharing! I'll dig his work later, I haven't seen anyone using the fingering I developed so far, but it feels great to grab more inspirations here and there~
@@sv_gravity thank you!
I’ll add one more thing. Because I’m odd, I decided to get a drum kit and learn that rather than learn to finger drum.
My teacher pointed me to a book called “Realistic Rock” by Carmine Appice. Lots of great grooves in there, very good stuff for a beginning drummer. It would probably be useful to someone learning finger drumming as well.
@@sv_gravity thanks for sharing, I went through his approach, it's a similar method, but we got different hand positioning and fingering, I utilize my thumbs more and separate the double hand multitasking more like a real drummer's approach. I think the one I developed is easier to get hands one and more versatile (imo).
@@playpm Absolutely. I don’t think there’s any need to do anything differently than what works for you (or anyone else). I definitely think anyone needs to find a consistent layout that works for them and practice until you can truly groove.
hi man. pc keybord -This real fast start for music))
Hell yeah! I do finger drumming on qwerty keyboard too, that'll be another video for sure!
My knuckles feel ok! 😂
Salute! Love your videos ❤
Haha thank you man!
Saw your video on the KO 133, great perspective!
"Let's learn how to play a Rock 'n Roll rhythm!"
1:11 AI-generated hands be like...
Best way to drum with fingers? Piano!
Pure data is a solution 👌
You can play drums with guitar
Haven't tried Pure data, but I do have a secret midi guitar which I will make a video in the future lol
I've had that $40 LPK 25 keyboard for many years, I think I bought it in the 2010s.
It's the coolest thing I have for my macbook and with Logic pro.
Small keys really make you more skilled at being a finger drummer.
I didn't have much success at first, but I also use Koala sampler for my Mac, because I bought it for ipad and it works for mac and iphone at the same time, this Koala sampler is my favorite for a long time.
Thanks for the video.
Could you give your thoughts on my music
Enjoying Atone, it's sooooooooo good!!!!
0:51 😬🙈😭
well, I use my drum furniture basically on the daily. can't wait for a video like this for replacing guitar, because fortunately or unfortunately I am already a drummer 😂😂😂 and already have over a decade of experience and thousands of dollars of gear 🤭
The plan is finger the drum first, then everything lol, stay tuned~
@@playpm I'm excited to see what you do next 👀
also, calling it drum furniture made me laugh so hard. I think I'm going to have to add musical furniture to my vocabulary
从朋友圈来的😂
they call him the drumless fingerer
I use my macbook's keyboard lol
Same approach, after I figured out my unique hand shape, the qwerty keyboard can be a real killer, will share it in the future.
You are awesome but I must admit I didn't see or hear any finger drumming in this video that would cause me to seek you out as a teacher. Maybe I missed something...
That's totally fine, it's definitely not for everyone. What I'm doing is as I'm constantly growing and getting better, I pack up my experience and knowledge to help others who are willing to learn from start but don't want to waste time going through all the digging testing and bad directions. It's more of helping and serving than teaching as a master.
@@playpm thanks for taking the time to reply! You are one of my favorite RUclipsrs.
Buy a cheap electronic drum kit. Its the most relaxing experience to bang something with sticks
Yeah, we had the same expectation, only didn't went well for us lol
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