i really hope you cover the new Rocket Knight Adventures Re-sparked at some point!! when i heard that announcement you were the first person i thought of. it's going to be sold physically on limited run games if u want a physical copy. i want to know what you think!
@@RetroBirdGaming *More Overrated Games That Actually Aren’t* • Donkey Kong Country (series) • Super Mario Bros Wonder • Sonic 3 & Knuckles • 2D Super Mario series (Super Mario Bros. 3, Super Mario All-Stars, Super Mario Advance 1-4, Super Mario World 1 & 2, hacks of the original SMW with custom music and custom endings, and yes, even Super Mario Bros. Wonder, no matter what the Game of the Year awards and its supporters that didn’t make it win say. I love Baldur’s Gate 3, but it’s not the only best game of last year!) • Pac-Man World (series) • pre-2010s Final Fantasy games • Sonic Adventure 1 & 2 (Dreamcast) • 2000s Mario RPGs • Mega Man (franchise; re: classic series, Mega Man X1-X4, Zero, Battle Network/StarForce) • Pokémon (2000s - mid-2010s generations) The list goes on, anyone can let me know if I’m missing anything, because I might just be missing a lot of things.
Chrono Trigger Super Metroid Dragonquest VIII Mortal Kombat Dragonquest 1 Doom Resident Evil 1-3 Halo 1-3 Mega Man Legends Fallout Banjo Kazooie Super Smash Bros Final Fantasy Tactics Legend of Dragoon Metroid Prime StarTropics Link's Awakening Secret of Mana Final Fantasy 4 Diddy Kong Racing
Never played Earthbound till the SNES classic came out. Wow, what an awesome game. Never also played Zelda Ocarina of Time till it came out on the Switch rental service 😋. I lived through both of these periods in gaming and I can say, I missed out but thankfully through these options I was able to play what I had previously missed. The best part though about "missing out" is that I now have a back catalog so massive I can very thankfully concentrate purely on retro games. So many of the games of today simply bore me and are lacking in creativity. IMHO, it's a money grab today vs. creating fun and interesting titles.
Can we appreciate how cool and yet also hilarious it is to see him playing Sonic 2 + Sonic & Knuckles on a Sega Nomad? Imagine taking that setup on a road trip.
Three great games as far as I'm concerned! I definitely thought about this channel when I saw the Rocket Knight collection. The original Genesis game is great and I'm very curious about the other two, which I've hardly ever seen mentioned anywhere (even here!).
Earthbound is hilarious to me. I played it a couple years ago and i was laughing my ass off at almost every line of dialogue, even in battles! Thats definitely what carried it for me
When I see Earthbound, I don't think over rated. I do think over-priced. Big time. It's not that rare, it was included on the SNES classic mini, and can be played on the switch if you have the subscription to the SNES games. Still, it ends up going for $400 or $500 dollars (Canadian) in my local area. Makes no sense to me at all.
I'd say that most of the "overrated" games that I've played (including OoT and Sonic 2) are actually very worthy of their positive reputations. And to be clear, it's not just nostalgia: I've picked up all kinds of games a decade or two after they released, and I can still appreciate their quality, despite not growing up with them. That said, there are definitely a few that I found mediocre (you could say "overrated"!), though even those all have redeeming qualities in their presentation.
Yeah, the nostalgia defense is not really very applicable considering that many games just last long enough where a huge portion of the fans are newer. I think the key example is Castlevania as I think that most the people who care about Castlevania are either very experienced with gaming, or are mostly new fans. So when people call it overrated due to nostalgia because there is stiff jumps, I find that a poor critique because most of the people who are playing it aren't really nostalgia based.
Hate to say it. But I do think it is nostalgia that's the reason you love these games. I mean. There the most popular games after all and if u ask me what video game is the best, alot of people will tell you it's Ocarina of Time or Sonic 2.
@@jaretco6423 There are all kinds of games that I didn't grow up with- Goldeneye and Perfect Dark being great examples- that I still enjoyed and would still rank among my all-time favourites. Many would say that those games have aged terribly, and that their popularity is only fuelled by nostalgia, but I had no nostalgia for them when I picked them up a decade late, around the age of 20. And it's not the popularity that's swaying me, either, as there are similarly popular, beloved games that I do think are overrated.
@3dmarth Depends on the type of nostalgia. Sometimes it's good. Other times it might not be. But Ocarina of Time has been nominated as the best game ever; if not top 3 in many reviews. IGN, GameSpot, Nintendo reviews, any of them. From what I've seen, Ocarina of Time has been in the top property game that any reviews put it in.
@@jaretco6423 If I'm following correctly, you think that people are biased because of OoT's extreme popularity, and are basically obligated to think/say it's the best? There's definitely some truth to that, but it's not the whole story. For one, it has gotten a lot of (over?)exposure in Nintendo circles, so it's likely to get mentioned a lot as a favourite. I've noticed that people of different ages and regions will have different gaming tastes, broadly speaking, and some groups are not very Nintendo-centric at all! I also believe there are strong reasons for OoT's popularity, based on its merits alone. It's a very cleverly-designed adventure, and it has a certain atmosphere and "feel" that most later games in the series haven't been able to match.
I did that recently with SNES. It's kind of a wonderful feeling to experience the things you missed. I played a few SNES games as a kid, but getting to really explore the library now is awesome.
Ooo, Earthbound, one of my favorite RPGs! I love it. And I'd be the first to acknowledge its flaws and why other people might not like it. If I were a hacker/programmer with the ability to easily modify code in such a way, I would love to: * Move key items to their own inventory * Say thank you for the attempt at the condiment system for being ambitious but it belongs in a game with less restrictive inventory * Make it easier to sell or drop multiple items * Make equipped items not take up inventory space So mostly my biggest hangup with the game is having to stop having fun so much and be forced to play inventory management quite frequently. Also I'd like to just not give a response when you check/talk in a position that has nothing to provide, as personally I think this discourages players from looking for secrets.
I have to say, the inventory management in that game could seem quite daunting at times and even annoying. Those are some good ideas. Also, that floating photographer really got on my nerves sometimes, but strangely, at other times, I kind of enjoyed the interruption.
I appreciate the "whatever floats your boat" sentiment. I have friends who have teased me over the years calling me a hipster who hates everything mainstream and only likes offbeat stuff just because I don't like Ocarina of Time and others, but honestly, most of my personal top ten would be super mainstream... Marios, Metroids, Castlevanias, a Final Fantasy, Earthbound... I just appreciate games that do something different quite a bit as well. Popular games are, as stated in the video, highly regarded for a reason. I like Mario 64 because it really just is fun. I don't like Halo or Fortnite, but I don't begrudge anyone for enjoying them. I don't like Ocarina of Time at all. Zelda became something different starting with that game, and it wasn't for me anymore, even if the prior games were some of my all-time favorites. It doesn't mean it's bad, but it's okay not to like it, too. I do think some of the pushback against some of these games comes from people treating it like you're somehow stupid if you don't like them. It makes you want to trash those games, whereas you'd probably just agree to disagree otherwise.
This is probably the first time I've seen someone use the phrase "Zelda became something different and it wasn't for me" in reference to OOt, and not Botw. This sentiment has been so prevalent in discussions of botw that I had forgotten that OOT did the exact same thing, just instead of linear to open, it was 2d to 3d. I think it kinda demonstrates a certain lack of perspective sectors of the Zelda community have developed. But you're spot on about people treating you like you're stupid if you don't like certain games. It's very hard not to hate something, if people actively insult your intelligence for just not liking it. A Zelda channel ran a poll ranking Zelda games, and TOTK won over OOt, and the comments were just full of people claiming anyone who preferred Totk was a "stupid child with recency bias who had probably never played oot".
It's hard to explain the impact of OoT to Zelda fans during the time it originally launched. 3d games were far from their "stride". Emoraptor sentiment and the ilk have good points and the Zelda feel was reinvented but it was unmistakably Zelda. Zelda 1 my favorite btw but OoT captured my imagination with far less need to do so in some crazy way. Imo... the best Zelda song is The Original Hyrule Castle on snes. My first Zelda game. From the uneasy panic of the rain to lit Halls of the Castle. THE song is so powerful even if the entry dungeon doesn't live up to it. It's like going from enter the eternal fire to equimanthorn on my bathory Playlist. God bless u God bless Zelda God bless that bird God I love talking Zelda memories
Look I grew up with oot I can tell you I like botw and totk more than oot because I played oot and remember really hating it I replayed it recently because I have it for GameCube and still hate it. Honestly it a bad game mechanically, story was ok and gameplay was bad but I still like majora mask which puzzles me but hey “what ever floats your boat they say”. Honestly I gald some ppl are speaking out on oot because I thought I was alone in hating it. That an final fantasy series as well but love jrpgs I don’t know what people see in final fantasy but I grew up with chrono trigger so I still think I am spoiled.
'These people' are emboldened by countless articles singing the praises of OoT. Naming it as a touchpoint in the industry. Very florid language used and very hyperbolic. It's goes with the territory of writing copy. People tend to exaggerate to just make things sound more exciting to the reader. So Ocarina of Time is officially the best game ever made. I did some research into the top ten games a couple of years ago and OoT and Mario 64 were consistently in the top 2 but OoT killed it by miles. So people are going to assume what they read has some truth in it and feel confident in repeating an opinion they already read. Then feel good in a chat room agreeing with other people and just waxing lyrical about how much they like things. So it can be a shock when someone says they don't like something because they've not heard that opinion before. It's part of media that messages become simplified and condensed for the sake of shorthand. There are alot of tastes but games get money spent on them when they sell and what sells it what people can agree on that is good. So tastes are being directed all the time to favour one party or another based on influence and brand loyalty.
@@MaxM210yeah tbh that’s how I feel about BOTW. The weapon degradation and lack of returning magic items was a major turn off. I got the collectors edition and was so hyped….never made it off the plateau 😅
I was just talking to my Dad about this. It's great that my Dad is an old school gamer. He was born in 58 and now that he has retired he has been asking me about how to go about getting back into retro. During this talk it came up that when I was a kid he just never liked Sonic. It was just one of those things that didn't stick for him. I loved it as it was doing something that back then felt very different from Mario and other platformers. My pops loves Mario but no matter how hard I tried I just couldn't get him to love that blue hedgehog
As a huge Sonic fan not sure how Sonic Mania passed my radar for the Switch! Thanks for the Bird Seeds to that gem or shall I say Rings? Ha-Ha! Actually I'm amazed how many 2D games are out there for systems out now, which is why this passed my Retro Radar! When I play my 2D games I lose track of time & then reality hits & I'm like: Where am I? What year is it? Is the Rock President? What? There's more 2D Sonic than Sonic Superstars? Woo, I love being a Turtle! I mean Hedgehog!
clicked the vid and was skeptical to say least with huge influx of retro creators these days but I'm literally one minute in and love the format and script , very interesting as I've commented maybe 5 months ago on another vid and i never comment , your face maybe back ground or how you look I Dunno seems to normal or neutral if you want constructive criticism grow a beard or have a funky hair cut or color i Dunno my 2 cents still only at 1 min lol- 5 mins in and loved the banana window joke with double entendre , took 10 seconds before i got it , i like your perspective and found myself agreeing to the point i knew there was an option c and hoped it was what you wrote , 7 mins now , just writing this because i think your a top tier creator with low count subs but if you continue the hard work youll be at a mill within a year now im at the end ive laughed twice real hard love your perspective just sad it wasn't longer .... but that's what she said keep up the good work
First time viewer. Just wanted to say that I noticed the attention to detail in your shots and framing. Everything is so prestine and well taken care of. The shots of gameplay on the hand-helds are steady so that it's easy to view and the boxes/consoles in the background are a nice touch. Same thing with the dark room and playing on a CRT TV. Wish I was more articulate when it comes to praising things like this. My main point is that it has not gone unnoticed. Screw it! While we're at it, the sound mixing was also great. Didn't have to adjust my volume throughout the whole video.
Thank you for that! Those are all things that take a lot of time being meticulous to get right (or as close to right as I can). The sound mixing in particular nearly gave me a nervous breakdown the way I would fret over it. Anyhow, thank you and welcome to the channel!
Ocarina of time is the only game I ever pre-ordered. I still remember going down to my local game store in the mall to get the collectors edition with prima magazine!
The term "overrated" is overrated. I think a lot of the use of the term comes down to changing expectations. I saw it rather clearly with Mario Odyssey. There was the people who played it at launch (like me), where coming off of SM3DW it blew them away. They all talked it up, and then then there was a second wave of players hearing that buzz and giving it a try and all of a sudden "It's no masterpiece". Then a 3rd wave sees people putting it down and give it a go after hearing that and go "well hold on, it's still really great." I've also seen this happen with Beatles albums, the one seen as the general 'best' seems to fluctuate over the years as whenever one is decided and sits at the top to long people get to used to it and start to change sentiments from "Well Sgt. Pepper is not that good.... look at Revolver" OoT I was on the other side of, where after hearing how it was "The greatest game of all time" for like 15 years before I finally gave it a go, well nothing can live up to that let alone a game on the N64 lol. I was not too impressed after initially playing it. Also really popular and influential works tend to get woven into the fabric of the medium itself, and what was once fresh and unexpected seems less so when everything after was copying it lol.
One of my daily internet pet peeves is the egregious misuse of "Under and Overrated" these days. People just use it for their selfish opinions instead of understanding why something is rated the way it is to begin with. It's okay to not like something but understand why so many do (and vice versa). We really need to normalize the Unbiased Opinion. Great video though.
this video somehow mentions all 3 major category of games for me sonic 2, which i love ocarina of time, which im just kinda indifferent towards and earthbound, which i absolutely cannot stand ig it just shows how different opinions can be.
I don't tend to like when someone says a game is overrated. Like you said that means people shouldn't like something because you feel differently, and that's kind of silly. Great video as always!
Dude… and you’re underrated at comedy. The banana counters not watching you and finally scratching the sniffcards in your deathbed were hilarious lmao 😅
6:15 This is a great point. People often forget how important pacing is to a game. In OoT, you are never spending more than an hour between dungeons unless you decide to do a side quest like the Big Goron Sword. So, even if you don't like the stuff in between dungeons, it's not a painful process... unlike some other 3D Zeldas...
The biggest issue that I have with OoT is how big and barebones the world of Hyrule and getting to the progression is. Even with Epona, trying to get to one place to another is an chore because of how massive traveling to Hyrule were and there isn't anything happening. I also thought the dungeons were average at best. Forest, Water & Spirit Temple not withstanding. The issue is that they weren't very unique nor challenging. It's just puss this button there, play the Ocarina there and other reputation that don't feel like an solid dungeon. I think other Zelda games handle the dungeons far better. And the bosses aren't even that challenging.
@@jaretco6423the world really isn't that big and getting places with fast travel makes it even better. I also felt the dungeons are still some of the best designed in the series to this day 🤷♂️ I agree with the op that the game has incredible pacing for how many dungeons there are
@chrispy3051 Different taste I guess. But I still rest my case. I still think Hyrule is big & empty. Not like BotW/TotK levels of big because that's an different genre. But I still think it's huge, there's nothing happening during thise events and going through places can be an chore. I still say the dungeons are the weakest in any 3D Zelda games. The designs, puzzles, gimmicks & progression wise weren't all that unique, clever & challenging and some like the Forest, Water & Spirit Temple are so annoying because the puzzles are so obnoxious and you have to backtrack so many times to this & that to progress and it's really tedious all around. Also I don't care about any if the characters in OoT because they weren't interesting. Majora's Mask handles that better. Or better yet. Majora's Mask and other 3D Zelda games handles everything OoT does but better.
@@jaretco6423 yeah if you prefer dungeons ocarina of time, if you prefer characters and world building Majora's mask. I love both and they kind of have opposite strengths. Crazy we got both on N64
@chrispy3051 I guess. I still respect OoT and without it, we wouldn't had more games like that and Majora's Mask as an sequel. I will always appreciated it. Even if I don't agree it's the best Zelda game or best game in general as most people claim and I prefer Majora's Mask way more because I feel it did what OoT does, but better.
Thank you for taking me down Memory Lane!! I will briefly mention just one game you talked about, Earthbound. I love how even though it’s so different from other RPGs it still WORKS, offers so much comedy, and gives an experience that is totally unique and yet isn’t too abstract (most of the time😅) I love how the stores and shops are portrayed like a totally wonderful place(smile, smile ), you call your parents to save your game or when Ness is simply feeling homesick, and let’s not forget: COFFEE BREAK, with its musical serenity and encouraging message halfway through the game.😊
Opinions often change over time also. Games I used to rank top tier has fallen while others I disregarded have risen. Not to mention core mechanics can change how a person views a series.
I feel like a lot of people who aren't open to certain genres will call something overrated when maybe it's just not for them. Earthbound is probably the key example because a lot of people in the west just don't like turn based RPGs, so one with a pretty basic battle system will just turn them off completely, because they don't really like the gameplay loop. They may be able to enjoy something more complex like Final Fantasy because the complexity makes the gameplay loop work for them. I also think that a lot of people have biases towards certain eras of games, so if something in 3D isn't perfect, then they will consider it dated like Ocarina of Time. It's just pretty complex.
Tbh, I don't think Ocarina lives up to the hype. It gets respect because it laid so much groundwork, but I think it pales in comparison to something like Majora's Mask or Wind Waker. By the way, if you want to play the best version of the game, try ship of harkinian with 3DS textures and assets. You get HD resolution and glorious 60fps.
Growing up I only played Super Mario Bros. So the style of gameplay these games have never been interesting to me. Games like Mario or something like Double Dragon are straight forward. I guess I'm just too simple minded. I still am like this today. But I don't see any game as overrated. We all like different things.
Straight fwd lol. Mario games have things you need to figure out in them. Like World 4 Castle, World 7 Castle & World 8 Castle. Double Dragon on the Nes also not straight fwd as you need to also figure out where to go in later levels.
@@tonyp9313 The majority of the game is go from left to right and jump on/shoot enemies. That's all I mean. Double Dragon II is pretty simple. Those are my type of games is what I meant. A game like Zelda you're just going all over the place the entire game not knowing what to do. At least when it was new or if you've never played before. Which is the boat I'm in. So I don't have any interest. But I'm glad people enjoy that. No game is overrated to me.
@@Wheels8504 Yeah for the most part it is for Super Mario Bros 1. Just pointing out if you never played A mario game, you will have trouble to beat them. Double Dragon 2 really straight fwd, & the hardest Double Dragon game to beat.
Imo I dont see retro games to be targets of being over or underrated. It was just a point of being a good or bad game back then. Games I consider to be overrated are games like Call of Duty or most EA sports games. Since they are basically the same game every time with new year added to them.
I was one of those 80s/90s kids who loved RPGs. By the time Earthbound was released I had beaten games like Secret of Mana, Final Fantasy 2 and 3, Illusion of Gaia, Breath of Fire, Lufia-all the “good” RPG releases of the time. I didn’t quite know what to make of Earthbound. It’s probably one of the first RPGs I started playing as a kid, but then abandoned partway through. Don’t get me wrong-I appreciated what it was doing at the time. But I guess my 15-year-old brain wanted something with a palpable fantasy or dungeons and dragons vibe. I am ashamed to say it, but I gave EB another go with the release of the SNES mini…and I abandoned it partway through again. 🍌 I intend to go back to it, and I know it’s a great RPG, but for some reason the game just doesn’t click with me. Great vid, as usual!
Any game/book/song/movie/etc that earn a positive consensus about it IS overrated and there is no argue about it. The truth is that there is nothing that will please everybody. About games, I dare to say that there is not a single game that is even liked by the majority of players, and I'm not even considering that, probably, most of people don't play videogames. There is, IMHO, a lot of illusion about it. As, for example: There were 33 milion Nintendo 64 consoles sold, but """only""" 8 million copies of Ocarina of Time. """Only""" 1/4 of N64 owners had a copy of this game. Even Mario 64, with 11M copies, represents 1:3 relation. Ok, we can consider that back in the day, there weren't so many copies available to sale, or that a great number of players used to rent or trade what they played. Even then, we are also talking about a Nintendo console, that basically didn't have much of support from thirdies and blablabla. But it's not only about these games. Every single one of all of greatest hits (yeah... we can even consider that selling numbers is the only real measure of quality), I doubt that there is one single game that most players of it's era liked it. So, IMHO-again, we are all enthusiasts here (or we wouldn't be discussing about a video on the topic) and is cool to discuss about what we like and rate it all. But in the end, the most that we can do is to give people REFERENCES about what games are good. Personally, I'm not a big fan of any of these three games, but if I'm asked about "what games to play" by a person that wants to know about these consoles/genres/eras, I would recommend it, specially if I see that the person is searching for a specific type of game that matches one of these titles. Unfortunately, most of the discussion around games is made by fanatics, pseudo-critics (or every critic is a pseudo... you folks tell me about it) or people that don't play and just echoes consensus for whatever reason. What I like about this channel is that you are not a fanatic, a critic nor even an echo-chamber... just a lad that knows about what you like and knows how to share the passion. So, yeah, Ocarina and Sonic 2 are overrated, Mother still underground (but have a lot of success with critics and echo-chamberists), none of them are near from my favorites, but all are at least very good on what they try to do, and it's enough when most of released games fails to accomplish their own proposal. Cheers!
I believe all gta games are over rated because it brought a new genre into gaming, the criminal mentality into being acceptable in a fictional game being ok.
I remember picking up a lap steel guitar a few years ago for the first time. I played around with it until I could play Epona’s song😂 took me about an hour.
Retro Bird, this has been maybe the funniest and best video I've ever seen of yours. And, counterpoint, I think people might use the term "overrated" to suggest a lack of sincerity, in the liking-its.
I think things can be over hyped. Some fans get way too aggressive about the things they like or dislike. I am happy when people find something to enjoy even if it's not my thing.
😂 This is definitely in my top three favorite channels. That witness protection bit almost made me spew bubbly water out of my nose. Speaking of controversial! Saying bubbly water is good might get you a black eye with some people. And I think you might possibly love bananas more than me. I don’t let mine watch the neighbors out of the window. But maybe I should? My cat gets a kick out of it. I will say though that my potassium is through the roof! Good times.
Zelda: OoT does NOT deserve the praise it so often gets. Time hasn't been kind to the N64 graphics and the quality of life stuff like faster text speed, skipable cutscenes, and game design that's clear on what you're supposed to do is severely lacking (especially when navigering Jabu-jabu's belly, the first phase of the Phantom Ganon fight and how to free King Zora is extremely cryptic, as is most of the side quests. It was revolutionary and it's a definive classic, but it's not a 99/100 masterpiece
I think the people that think these games are overrated are youngsters that played later iterations in the series/genre first and developed their own nostalgia for those later iterations. Imagine having Breath of the Wild or Wind Walker being your first Zelda completion then going back to OoT. Or Sonic Mania being your first Sonic completion then going back to sonic 2. Or even playing Undertale then going back and playing Earthbound. Even I’ve been guilty of this when playing shmups lately. Of course Batsugun is gonna be better than Tiger Heli. But once you factor in what else was available at the time, Tiger Heli becomes way more impressive. I think these youngsters NEED to factor in release date when judging, but that’s just me. Do what you want. This is all about fun right. Not everyone has to become a self proclaimed gaming historian like myself, right?
Sonic the Hedgehog's speed worked to his advantage when the platforming was 2D. It really showed off the Sega Genesis' sprite and background scrolling abilities too. However, high speed platforming worked against Sonic the Hedgehog when he moved to 3D. My advice to the Sonic the Hedgehog developers would be to SLOW Sonic down, and remove the homing attack, which takes all the fun out of having to aim your jumps on the enemies.
Sonic games have nice graphics and sounds and attitude, but I never cared for the gameplay. if I want to go fast in a platformer, I’ll play _Donkey Kong Country_ 🤷🏻♂️
The term "overrated" (as well as "underrated") implies people are wrong for liking (or disliking) a game. I understand that what one really mean is that there's flaws or tropes other people are either missing or letting slip past scrutiny or that the are other, better games to play. Still, the term is pretty useless when discussing good or bad games. "Overlooked" or "under appreciated", now, those are terms I can accept for games that deserves more exposure! In the end, we like what we like and if something is liked by a majority (but not by you) it just shows that you have a superior intellect and other people are stupid and biased. Bye, bye, I win!
When games share the same flaws, yet one is loved and the other is hated, is the definition of overrated. Or at least thats what the definition ahould be. My only beef with OoT is that the controls/gameplay is awful. The concept of waiting for an enemy to turn around then attack gets old after a while. Camera angles were awful, especially when doing puzzles. Using bombs was difficult. Being told how to store bombs every time you pick it up is annoying, etc. If OoT wasnt a zelda game it would have been a flop.
Zelda OoT 3DS is amazing but over all I’d say OoT is over hyped imo. I grew up with the game I love it but the gnarly things I’ve heard the fans say about this game I will admit goes overboard sometimes like borderline lieing about the games features and content/story.
I was a really big FF7 fan back in the day, but these days it just doesn't click for me in the same way. Just because it's not my cup-of-tea doesn't mean it's overrated. These days I prefer FF6. I have a hard time picking up OoT and Majoras Mask. Maybe I'll give them another try sometime. FWIW Minish Cap is my favorite Zelda. One could say that game is...underrated. 😂 But yeah... for any game there will always be someone that likes the game more than me...and same for less than me. No reason why I would really mind too much. So what if we have different tastes. I get to choose which games I play and don't really let others' opinions spoil my fun. 😁
I actually eat my bananas by sn\pping it in half in the middle with brute strength. that way i can save the other half for later and its still nice and cosy in its jacket
IMO, Mega Man 2 is one of the most overrated games of all time. Im not saying its a bad game by any means and its definetly one of the strongest of all the original titles. What gets me is whenever someone says its the greatest Mega Man game of all time and its never been done better since. I'm like, "Are you seriously trying to tell me that 2 was better than the first 4 Mega Man X games? Get outta here!"😂
I love Zelda, but Ocarina does not click with me still. I’ve yet to push through it all. Also, FF7 has become less favorable for me over time because of navigating the world is awkward. Now Earth Bound, it’s has continued to grow on me. But make no mistake, none of these are overrated.
@@abstractdaddy1384 Honestly, I don't mind Ocarina, it just doesn't do it for me like Wind Waker or Link to the Past. I like every mainline game to a certain degree, except Zelda 2 was miserable for me... I swore a lot. I have never played the CD-i games, but they seem dreadful. I overviewed my collection not long ago.
I love your videos, I can reminisce and learn and laugh and I appreciate the work you’ve done that demonstrates the banana’s fantastic potential as a practical learning aid and increases awareness of its surprising versatility which will surely have a positive effect on general banana awareness too and every little bit helps. (Go bananas!)👍
Nobody can be bothered hating something that isn't popular. Sometimes a person just feels like pushing back against the self-reinforcing nature of popular opinion. Sensible primates open bananas from the tip.
Ocarina of Time is one of my very favourite games, but outside of its warm, whimsical tone and a few very memorable sequences, I think the main thing going for it is that it's a Zelda game that doesn't really mess up too much. The whole series is typically pretty great, but there's a lot of stuff I don't relish coming back to in Wind Waker, Majora's Mask or Twilight Princess. In OoT, it's really just the Water Temple. I don't think it's impossible to make a better Zelda. I just don't think Nintendo have yet.
Well, I'm not gonna lie... I'm always ecstatic when a new trashy Sonic game comes out, because I'm feeding on the tears of that Stockholm Syndromed fanbase.
While I don't think Ocarina of Time is overrated, it is interesting that you showed footage from the 3DS version which irons out a few of the flaws (maybe the only flaws?) of the original: the framerate is better, and changing items and especially boots is less of a chore because of the second screen. I think my most controversial opinion is that I don't think the original Metal Gear Solid is all that great. But, I can see why people were blown away at the time and why a lot of people would still say it's a great game, so I guess I don't really think its overrated, just not for me.
@@Gonzalo_105 yes, Metal Gear Solid for the PS1. I just meant to differentiate it from MGS2 since a lot of people don’t like that one. I think Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2 play better than Metal Gear Solid (and the MSX version of Metal Gear is better than the NES port, but I have a soft spot for the NES port because I played that one the most back in the day)
The 3DS version only fixed part of the mechanics and added one more item imput. But that's about it. OoT still has flaws that could've been addressed better.
Never had Earthbound in the UK, don't think was released here. Also never had a SNES ha. But looks interesting, bit like Pokémon. Also I know you didn't mention this but Sonic 3 is not overrated ha, it's awesome. Especially with knuckles plugged in
I might've thought of something that nobody will say is overrated!! Floppy-Eared Dogs??
i really hope you cover the new Rocket Knight Adventures Re-sparked at some point!! when i heard that announcement you were the first person i thought of. it's going to be sold physically on limited run games if u want a physical copy. i want to know what you think!
Me too! I just saw that today and i was like retro bird will be so excited
Meh, dogs in general are overrated. Now cats on the other hand...
*nods head in agreement*
Floppy-eared dogs are overrated. Stiff-eared dogs are the best!
Others have said it, but I'll reiterate: your channel is fantastic! Thank you for your wonderful work.
Ah ... It's overrated.
Indeed. He appears to put a lot of thought and effort into each video. I wish the guy success; seems like a nice dude.
The banana budget for this video was insane!
You should see the Donkey Kong Country trilogy video ;) ruclips.net/video/rRlH4FUmrmo/видео.html
@@RetroBirdGaming
*More Overrated Games That Actually Aren’t*
• Donkey Kong Country (series)
• Super Mario Bros Wonder
• Sonic 3 & Knuckles
• 2D Super Mario series (Super Mario Bros. 3, Super Mario All-Stars, Super Mario Advance 1-4, Super Mario World 1 & 2, hacks of the original SMW with custom music and custom endings, and yes, even Super Mario Bros. Wonder, no matter what the Game of the Year awards and its supporters that didn’t make it win say. I love Baldur’s Gate 3, but it’s not the only best game of last year!)
• Pac-Man World (series)
• pre-2010s Final Fantasy games
• Sonic Adventure 1 & 2 (Dreamcast)
• 2000s Mario RPGs
• Mega Man (franchise; re: classic series, Mega Man X1-X4, Zero, Battle Network/StarForce)
• Pokémon (2000s - mid-2010s generations)
The list goes on, anyone can let me know if I’m missing anything, because I might just be missing a lot of things.
Chrono Trigger
Super Metroid
Dragonquest VIII
Mortal Kombat
Dragonquest 1
Doom
Resident Evil 1-3
Halo 1-3
Mega Man Legends
Fallout
Banjo Kazooie
Super Smash Bros
Final Fantasy Tactics
Legend of Dragoon
Metroid Prime
StarTropics
Link's Awakening
Secret of Mana
Final Fantasy 4
Diddy Kong Racing
Earthbound is one of my all time favorite games to this day.. the music when you discover a sanctuary is ethereal
Never played Earthbound till the SNES classic came out. Wow, what an awesome game. Never also played Zelda Ocarina of Time till it came out on the Switch rental service 😋. I lived through both of these periods in gaming and I can say, I missed out but thankfully through these options I was able to play what I had previously missed. The best part though about "missing out" is that I now have a back catalog so massive I can very thankfully concentrate purely on retro games. So many of the games of today simply bore me and are lacking in creativity. IMHO, it's a money grab today vs. creating fun and interesting titles.
The almost redheaded version of Scott The Woz (seriously, play this video at 1.1 times speed). I love it. 😂 Underrated channel.
That outro song is always 🔥🔥🔥
Can we appreciate how cool and yet also hilarious it is to see him playing Sonic 2 + Sonic & Knuckles on a Sega Nomad? Imagine taking that setup on a road trip.
I just need to get a game genie in there too :)
Buy an analogue pocket and install Genesis, snes, game gear and other fpga cores. Play everything without lag and super duper screen
@@vasilas432Where's the fun in that? Jk.
Three great games as far as I'm concerned!
I definitely thought about this channel when I saw the Rocket Knight collection. The original Genesis game is great and I'm very curious about the other two, which I've hardly ever seen mentioned anywhere (even here!).
Earthbound is hilarious to me. I played it a couple years ago and i was laughing my ass off at almost every line of dialogue, even in battles! Thats definitely what carried it for me
When I see Earthbound, I don't think over rated. I do think over-priced. Big time.
It's not that rare, it was included on the SNES classic mini, and can be played on the switch if you have the subscription to the SNES games. Still, it ends up going for $400 or $500 dollars (Canadian) in my local area. Makes no sense to me at all.
$2500 for complete in box.
I'd say that most of the "overrated" games that I've played (including OoT and Sonic 2) are actually very worthy of their positive reputations.
And to be clear, it's not just nostalgia: I've picked up all kinds of games a decade or two after they released, and I can still appreciate their quality, despite not growing up with them.
That said, there are definitely a few that I found mediocre (you could say "overrated"!), though even those all have redeeming qualities in their presentation.
Yeah, the nostalgia defense is not really very applicable considering that many games just last long enough where a huge portion of the fans are newer. I think the key example is Castlevania as I think that most the people who care about Castlevania are either very experienced with gaming, or are mostly new fans. So when people call it overrated due to nostalgia because there is stiff jumps, I find that a poor critique because most of the people who are playing it aren't really nostalgia based.
Hate to say it. But I do think it is nostalgia that's the reason you love these games. I mean. There the most popular games after all and if u ask me what video game is the best, alot of people will tell you it's Ocarina of Time or Sonic 2.
@@jaretco6423 There are all kinds of games that I didn't grow up with- Goldeneye and Perfect Dark being great examples- that I still enjoyed and would still rank among my all-time favourites. Many would say that those games have aged terribly, and that their popularity is only fuelled by nostalgia, but I had no nostalgia for them when I picked them up a decade late, around the age of 20.
And it's not the popularity that's swaying me, either, as there are similarly popular, beloved games that I do think are overrated.
@3dmarth Depends on the type of nostalgia. Sometimes it's good. Other times it might not be. But Ocarina of Time has been nominated as the best game ever; if not top 3 in many reviews. IGN, GameSpot, Nintendo reviews, any of them. From what I've seen, Ocarina of Time has been in the top property game that any reviews put it in.
@@jaretco6423 If I'm following correctly, you think that people are biased because of OoT's extreme popularity, and are basically obligated to think/say it's the best?
There's definitely some truth to that, but it's not the whole story. For one, it has gotten a lot of (over?)exposure in Nintendo circles, so it's likely to get mentioned a lot as a favourite. I've noticed that people of different ages and regions will have different gaming tastes, broadly speaking, and some groups are not very Nintendo-centric at all!
I also believe there are strong reasons for OoT's popularity, based on its merits alone. It's a very cleverly-designed adventure, and it has a certain atmosphere and "feel" that most later games in the series haven't been able to match.
Just found your channel, really enjoy this style of video game & tech review. Looking forward to more in the future!
I have been watching for some time now. I love the humor. Clean and not crazy. Retro Bird does a great job in his videos!
Recently picked up a Genesis and the Sonic games, been having fun trying to play games I never grew up with.
Which Sonic do you like out of the Sonic 1-3 games?
I did that recently with SNES. It's kind of a wonderful feeling to experience the things you missed. I played a few SNES games as a kid, but getting to really explore the library now is awesome.
Why didn't you pick up a genesis mini? Far better value 🤷♀️
@@HUYI1 Not if you want to play it on a crt tv. Also it lags so worse value
This channels format vibe is like a fusion of Scott the Woz meets Classic Game Room. I dig it.
Retro Bird answers the question 'What's the opposite of AVGN?' 🙂 Love the channel, it's a refreshing take on retro game reviews!
Ooo, Earthbound, one of my favorite RPGs! I love it. And I'd be the first to acknowledge its flaws and why other people might not like it. If I were a hacker/programmer with the ability to easily modify code in such a way, I would love to:
* Move key items to their own inventory
* Say thank you for the attempt at the condiment system for being ambitious but it belongs in a game with less restrictive inventory
* Make it easier to sell or drop multiple items
* Make equipped items not take up inventory space
So mostly my biggest hangup with the game is having to stop having fun so much and be forced to play inventory management quite frequently.
Also I'd like to just not give a response when you check/talk in a position that has nothing to provide, as personally I think this discourages players from looking for secrets.
I have to say, the inventory management in that game could seem quite daunting at times and even annoying. Those are some good ideas. Also, that floating photographer really got on my nerves sometimes, but strangely, at other times, I kind of enjoyed the interruption.
Also i love your Channel! I enjoy your topics on Video games!
Your writing is super on point. Love this
I was spacing off and came back into consciousness with , "I wound up on the roof of a school once" 🤣
I appreciate the "whatever floats your boat" sentiment. I have friends who have teased me over the years calling me a hipster who hates everything mainstream and only likes offbeat stuff just because I don't like Ocarina of Time and others, but honestly, most of my personal top ten would be super mainstream... Marios, Metroids, Castlevanias, a Final Fantasy, Earthbound... I just appreciate games that do something different quite a bit as well. Popular games are, as stated in the video, highly regarded for a reason. I like Mario 64 because it really just is fun. I don't like Halo or Fortnite, but I don't begrudge anyone for enjoying them.
I don't like Ocarina of Time at all. Zelda became something different starting with that game, and it wasn't for me anymore, even if the prior games were some of my all-time favorites. It doesn't mean it's bad, but it's okay not to like it, too.
I do think some of the pushback against some of these games comes from people treating it like you're somehow stupid if you don't like them. It makes you want to trash those games, whereas you'd probably just agree to disagree otherwise.
This is probably the first time I've seen someone use the phrase "Zelda became something different and it wasn't for me" in reference to OOt, and not Botw. This sentiment has been so prevalent in discussions of botw that I had forgotten that OOT did the exact same thing, just instead of linear to open, it was 2d to 3d. I think it kinda demonstrates a certain lack of perspective sectors of the Zelda community have developed.
But you're spot on about people treating you like you're stupid if you don't like certain games. It's very hard not to hate something, if people actively insult your intelligence for just not liking it. A Zelda channel ran a poll ranking Zelda games, and TOTK won over OOt, and the comments were just full of people claiming anyone who preferred Totk was a "stupid child with recency bias who had probably never played oot".
It's hard to explain the impact of OoT to Zelda fans during the time it originally launched.
3d games were far from their "stride".
Emoraptor sentiment and the ilk have good points and the Zelda feel was reinvented but it was unmistakably Zelda.
Zelda 1 my favorite btw but OoT captured my imagination with far less need to do so in some crazy way.
Imo... the best Zelda song is The Original Hyrule Castle on snes.
My first Zelda game. From the uneasy panic of the rain to lit Halls of the Castle.
THE song is so powerful even if the entry dungeon doesn't live up to it.
It's like going from enter the eternal fire to equimanthorn on my bathory Playlist.
God bless u God bless Zelda God bless that bird
God I love talking Zelda memories
Look I grew up with oot I can tell you I like botw and totk more than oot because I played oot and remember really hating it I replayed it recently because I have it for GameCube and still hate it.
Honestly it a bad game mechanically, story was ok and gameplay was bad but I still like majora mask which puzzles me but hey “what ever floats your boat they say”.
Honestly I gald some ppl are speaking out on oot because I thought I was alone in hating it.
That an final fantasy series as well but love jrpgs I don’t know what people see in final fantasy but I grew up with chrono trigger so I still think I am spoiled.
'These people' are emboldened by countless articles singing the praises of OoT. Naming it as a touchpoint in the industry. Very florid language used and very hyperbolic. It's goes with the territory of writing copy. People tend to exaggerate to just make things sound more exciting to the reader.
So Ocarina of Time is officially the best game ever made. I did some research into the top ten games a couple of years ago and OoT and Mario 64 were consistently in the top 2 but OoT killed it by miles.
So people are going to assume what they read has some truth in it and feel confident in repeating an opinion they already read. Then feel good in a chat room agreeing with other people and just waxing lyrical about how much they like things.
So it can be a shock when someone says they don't like something because they've not heard that opinion before.
It's part of media that messages become simplified and condensed for the sake of shorthand.
There are alot of tastes but games get money spent on them when they sell and what sells it what people can agree on that is good.
So tastes are being directed all the time to favour one party or another based on influence and brand loyalty.
@@MaxM210yeah tbh that’s how I feel about BOTW. The weapon degradation and lack of returning magic items was a major turn off.
I got the collectors edition and was so hyped….never made it off the plateau 😅
I was just talking to my Dad about this. It's great that my Dad is an old school gamer. He was born in 58 and now that he has retired he has been asking me about how to go about getting back into retro. During this talk it came up that when I was a kid he just never liked Sonic. It was just one of those things that didn't stick for him. I loved it as it was doing something that back then felt very different from Mario and other platformers. My pops loves Mario but no matter how hard I tried I just couldn't get him to love that blue hedgehog
Somehow I'm leaving this video with a strange desire to now play No one can stop Mr. Domino
It is legitimately an awesome game.
As a huge Sonic fan not sure how Sonic Mania passed my radar for the Switch! Thanks for the Bird Seeds to that gem or shall I say Rings? Ha-Ha! Actually I'm amazed how many 2D games are out there for systems out now, which is why this passed my Retro Radar! When I play my 2D games I lose track of time & then reality hits & I'm like: Where am I? What year is it? Is the Rock President? What? There's more 2D Sonic than Sonic Superstars? Woo, I love being a Turtle! I mean Hedgehog!
clicked the vid and was skeptical to say least with huge influx of retro creators these days but I'm literally one minute in and love the format and script , very interesting as I've commented maybe 5 months ago on another vid and i never comment , your face maybe back ground or how you look I Dunno seems to normal or neutral if you want constructive criticism grow a beard or have a funky hair cut or color i Dunno my 2 cents still only at 1 min lol-
5 mins in and loved the banana window joke with double entendre , took 10 seconds before i got it , i like your perspective and found myself agreeing to the point i knew there was an option c and hoped it was what you wrote , 7 mins now , just writing this because i think your a top tier creator with low count subs but if you continue the hard work youll be at a mill within a year
now im at the end ive laughed twice real hard love your perspective just sad it wasn't longer .... but that's what she said keep up the good work
Really appreciate the compliments and am glad to have you on the channel! I hope you'll check out some of my other videos as well :)
First time viewer. Just wanted to say that I noticed the attention to detail in your shots and framing. Everything is so prestine and well taken care of. The shots of gameplay on the hand-helds are steady so that it's easy to view and the boxes/consoles in the background are a nice touch. Same thing with the dark room and playing on a CRT TV.
Wish I was more articulate when it comes to praising things like this. My main point is that it has not gone unnoticed. Screw it! While we're at it, the sound mixing was also great. Didn't have to adjust my volume throughout the whole video.
Thank you for that! Those are all things that take a lot of time being meticulous to get right (or as close to right as I can). The sound mixing in particular nearly gave me a nervous breakdown the way I would fret over it. Anyhow, thank you and welcome to the channel!
Ocarina of time is the only game I ever pre-ordered. I still remember going down to my local game store in the mall to get the collectors edition with prima magazine!
The term "overrated" is overrated. I think a lot of the use of the term comes down to changing expectations.
I saw it rather clearly with Mario Odyssey. There was the people who played it at launch (like me), where coming off of SM3DW it blew them away. They all talked it up, and then then there was a second wave of players hearing that buzz and giving it a try and all of a sudden "It's no masterpiece". Then a 3rd wave sees people putting it down and give it a go after hearing that and go "well hold on, it's still really great." I've also seen this happen with Beatles albums, the one seen as the general 'best' seems to fluctuate over the years as whenever one is decided and sits at the top to long people get to used to it and start to change sentiments from "Well Sgt. Pepper is not that good.... look at Revolver"
OoT I was on the other side of, where after hearing how it was "The greatest game of all time" for like 15 years before I finally gave it a go, well nothing can live up to that let alone a game on the N64 lol. I was not too impressed after initially playing it. Also really popular and influential works tend to get woven into the fabric of the medium itself, and what was once fresh and unexpected seems less so when everything after was copying it lol.
One of my daily internet pet peeves is the egregious misuse of "Under and Overrated" these days. People just use it for their selfish opinions instead of understanding why something is rated the way it is to begin with. It's okay to not like something but understand why so many do (and vice versa). We really need to normalize the Unbiased Opinion. Great video though.
Thank you!
Everything that has a fanbase is overrated. No matter what fanbase it is, they think it's the greatest thing ever. Keep that in mind.
this video somehow mentions all 3 major category of games for me
sonic 2, which i love
ocarina of time, which im just kinda indifferent towards
and earthbound, which i absolutely cannot stand
ig it just shows how different opinions can be.
I don't tend to like when someone says a game is overrated. Like you said that means people shouldn't like something because you feel differently, and that's kind of silly.
Great video as always!
Thanks for watching as always!
I've climbed on top of a couple school roofs.
I rarely watch gaming reviews/opinions anymore but man this channel is awesome. Keep up the good work.
You'll hit a million subs in no time.
I really appreciate you watching! Thank you :)
Dude… and you’re underrated at comedy. The banana counters not watching you and finally scratching the sniffcards in your deathbed were hilarious lmao 😅
6:15 This is a great point. People often forget how important pacing is to a game. In OoT, you are never spending more than an hour between dungeons unless you decide to do a side quest like the Big Goron Sword. So, even if you don't like the stuff in between dungeons, it's not a painful process... unlike some other 3D Zeldas...
The biggest issue that I have with OoT is how big and barebones the world of Hyrule and getting to the progression is. Even with Epona, trying to get to one place to another is an chore because of how massive traveling to Hyrule were and there isn't anything happening. I also thought the dungeons were average at best. Forest, Water & Spirit Temple not withstanding. The issue is that they weren't very unique nor challenging. It's just puss this button there, play the Ocarina there and other reputation that don't feel like an solid dungeon. I think other Zelda games handle the dungeons far better. And the bosses aren't even that challenging.
@@jaretco6423the world really isn't that big and getting places with fast travel makes it even better. I also felt the dungeons are still some of the best designed in the series to this day 🤷♂️ I agree with the op that the game has incredible pacing for how many dungeons there are
@chrispy3051 Different taste I guess. But I still rest my case. I still think Hyrule is big & empty. Not like BotW/TotK levels of big because that's an different genre. But I still think it's huge, there's nothing happening during thise events and going through places can be an chore. I still say the dungeons are the weakest in any 3D Zelda games. The designs, puzzles, gimmicks & progression wise weren't all that unique, clever & challenging and some like the Forest, Water & Spirit Temple are so annoying because the puzzles are so obnoxious and you have to backtrack so many times to this & that to progress and it's really tedious all around. Also I don't care about any if the characters in OoT because they weren't interesting. Majora's Mask handles that better. Or better yet. Majora's Mask and other 3D Zelda games handles everything OoT does but better.
@@jaretco6423 yeah if you prefer dungeons ocarina of time, if you prefer characters and world building Majora's mask. I love both and they kind of have opposite strengths. Crazy we got both on N64
@chrispy3051 I guess. I still respect OoT and without it, we wouldn't had more games like that and Majora's Mask as an sequel. I will always appreciated it. Even if I don't agree it's the best Zelda game or best game in general as most people claim and I prefer Majora's Mask way more because I feel it did what OoT does, but better.
i played and beat OoT 2 times. I have no clue what the hype i about, and LoZ is my 2nd fav video game franchise
Thank you for taking me down Memory Lane!! I will briefly mention just one game you talked about, Earthbound. I love how even though it’s so different from other RPGs it still WORKS, offers so much comedy, and gives an experience that is totally unique and yet isn’t too abstract (most of the time😅) I love how the stores and shops are portrayed like a totally wonderful place(smile, smile ), you call your parents to save your game or when Ness is simply feeling homesick, and let’s not forget: COFFEE BREAK, with its musical serenity and encouraging message halfway through the game.😊
Opinions often change over time also. Games I used to rank top tier has fallen while others I disregarded have risen. Not to mention core mechanics can change how a person views a series.
I feel like a lot of people who aren't open to certain genres will call something overrated when maybe it's just not for them. Earthbound is probably the key example because a lot of people in the west just don't like turn based RPGs, so one with a pretty basic battle system will just turn them off completely, because they don't really like the gameplay loop. They may be able to enjoy something more complex like Final Fantasy because the complexity makes the gameplay loop work for them. I also think that a lot of people have biases towards certain eras of games, so if something in 3D isn't perfect, then they will consider it dated like Ocarina of Time. It's just pretty complex.
Tbh, I don't think Ocarina lives up to the hype. It gets respect because it laid so much groundwork, but I think it pales in comparison to something like Majora's Mask or Wind Waker. By the way, if you want to play the best version of the game, try ship of harkinian with 3DS textures and assets. You get HD resolution and glorious 60fps.
I love your video on this topic! I feel the same way about Street Fighter 2, Super Mario World, and Final Fantasy 6.
Some of us just want to take down things that people like to draw attention to ourselves. And then we turn 12.
I never say a game is overrated, I just say it's shit
An alternative title: Games That Are Impossible to Overrate
Way to take on the tough subjects Retro Bird!
Growing up I only played Super Mario Bros. So the style of gameplay these games have never been interesting to me. Games like Mario or something like Double Dragon are straight forward. I guess I'm just too simple minded. I still am like this today. But I don't see any game as overrated. We all like different things.
Straight fwd lol. Mario games have things you need to figure out in them. Like World 4 Castle, World 7 Castle & World 8 Castle. Double Dragon on the Nes also not straight fwd as you need to also figure out where to go in later levels.
@@tonyp9313 The majority of the game is go from left to right and jump on/shoot enemies. That's all I mean. Double Dragon II is pretty simple. Those are my type of games is what I meant. A game like Zelda you're just going all over the place the entire game not knowing what to do. At least when it was new or if you've never played before. Which is the boat I'm in. So I don't have any interest. But I'm glad people enjoy that. No game is overrated to me.
@@Wheels8504 Yeah for the most part it is for Super Mario Bros 1. Just pointing out if you never played A mario game, you will have trouble to beat them. Double Dragon 2 really straight fwd, & the hardest Double Dragon game to beat.
Imo I dont see retro games to be targets of being over or underrated. It was just a point of being a good or bad game back then. Games I consider to be overrated are games like Call of Duty or most EA sports games. Since they are basically the same game every time with new year added to them.
No kidding. They crank out CoD and sports games like it is a bodily function. Worse than that, people keep buying them up!
I was one of those 80s/90s kids who loved RPGs. By the time Earthbound was released I had beaten games like Secret of Mana, Final Fantasy 2 and 3, Illusion of Gaia, Breath of Fire, Lufia-all the “good” RPG releases of the time. I didn’t quite know what to make of Earthbound. It’s probably one of the first RPGs I started playing as a kid, but then abandoned partway through. Don’t get me wrong-I appreciated what it was doing at the time. But I guess my 15-year-old brain wanted something with a palpable fantasy or dungeons and dragons vibe. I am ashamed to say it, but I gave EB another go with the release of the SNES mini…and I abandoned it partway through again. 🍌 I intend to go back to it, and I know it’s a great RPG, but for some reason the game just doesn’t click with me. Great vid, as usual!
Take your FF7 example. Anything that is a highly rated game seems to go through the same phases: hype, hate, nostalgia, becoming "retro", collectible
After it gets to nostalgia it can go instead to "remake/reboot" territory.
Any game/book/song/movie/etc that earn a positive consensus about it IS overrated and there is no argue about it. The truth is that there is nothing that will please everybody.
About games, I dare to say that there is not a single game that is even liked by the majority of players, and I'm not even considering that, probably, most of people don't play videogames.
There is, IMHO, a lot of illusion about it. As, for example: There were 33 milion Nintendo 64 consoles sold, but """only""" 8 million copies of Ocarina of Time. """Only""" 1/4 of N64 owners had a copy of this game. Even Mario 64, with 11M copies, represents 1:3 relation.
Ok, we can consider that back in the day, there weren't so many copies available to sale, or that a great number of players used to rent or trade what they played. Even then, we are also talking about a Nintendo console, that basically didn't have much of support from thirdies and blablabla.
But it's not only about these games. Every single one of all of greatest hits (yeah... we can even consider that selling numbers is the only real measure of quality), I doubt that there is one single game that most players of it's era liked it.
So, IMHO-again, we are all enthusiasts here (or we wouldn't be discussing about a video on the topic) and is cool to discuss about what we like and rate it all. But in the end, the most that we can do is to give people REFERENCES about what games are good. Personally, I'm not a big fan of any of these three games, but if I'm asked about "what games to play" by a person that wants to know about these consoles/genres/eras, I would recommend it, specially if I see that the person is searching for a specific type of game that matches one of these titles. Unfortunately, most of the discussion around games is made by fanatics, pseudo-critics (or every critic is a pseudo... you folks tell me about it) or people that don't play and just echoes consensus for whatever reason. What I like about this channel is that you are not a fanatic, a critic nor even an echo-chamber... just a lad that knows about what you like and knows how to share the passion. So, yeah, Ocarina and Sonic 2 are overrated, Mother still underground (but have a lot of success with critics and echo-chamberists), none of them are near from my favorites, but all are at least very good on what they try to do, and it's enough when most of released games fails to accomplish their own proposal.
Cheers!
Love your channel!
Bioshock Infinite is the one that comes to mind as a game that is revered, but gets a lot of hate, but I still like quite a bit.
Good pick. Bioshock and Ocarina of Time are the best games ever made, in my opinion.
I believe all gta games are over rated because it brought a new genre into gaming, the criminal mentality into being acceptable in a fictional game being ok.
I remember picking up a lap steel guitar a few years ago for the first time. I played around with it until I could play Epona’s song😂 took me about an hour.
Retro Bird, this has been maybe the funniest and best video I've ever seen of yours. And, counterpoint, I think people might use the term "overrated" to suggest a lack of sincerity, in the liking-its.
Or, actually, just more of an objective standard.
Glad you liked the video! Interesting point you bring up... hmm. I tend to believe people are very sincere when they say they like a game.
@@RetroBirdGaming Haha, that's a very optimistic sentiment. Thanks for the response!
I think things can be over hyped. Some fans get way too aggressive about the things they like or dislike. I am happy when people find something to enjoy even if it's not my thing.
If someone said Ocarina of Time or FF7 was overrated to my face, I would put them in a full nelson
😂 This is definitely in my top three favorite channels. That witness protection bit almost made me spew bubbly water out of my nose. Speaking of controversial! Saying bubbly water is good might get you a black eye with some people. And I think you might possibly love bananas more than me. I don’t let mine watch the neighbors out of the window. But maybe I should? My cat gets a kick out of it. I will say though that my potassium is through the roof! Good times.
Scratch and sniff those cards. You only live once!
Zelda: OoT does NOT deserve the praise it so often gets. Time hasn't been kind to the N64 graphics and the quality of life stuff like faster text speed, skipable cutscenes, and game design that's clear on what you're supposed to do is severely lacking (especially when navigering Jabu-jabu's belly, the first phase of the Phantom Ganon fight and how to free King Zora is extremely cryptic, as is most of the side quests.
It was revolutionary and it's a definive classic, but it's not a 99/100 masterpiece
I think the people that think these games are overrated are youngsters that played later iterations in the series/genre first and developed their own nostalgia for those later iterations.
Imagine having Breath of the Wild or Wind Walker being your first Zelda completion then going back to OoT. Or Sonic Mania being your first Sonic completion then going back to sonic 2. Or even playing Undertale then going back and playing Earthbound.
Even I’ve been guilty of this when playing shmups lately. Of course Batsugun is gonna be better than Tiger Heli. But once you factor in what else was available at the time, Tiger Heli becomes way more impressive. I think these youngsters NEED to factor in release date when judging, but that’s just me. Do what you want. This is all about fun right. Not everyone has to become a self proclaimed gaming historian like myself, right?
Thank you for including bananas in this video
Sonic the Hedgehog's speed worked to his advantage when the platforming was 2D. It really showed off the Sega Genesis' sprite and background scrolling abilities too. However, high speed platforming worked against Sonic the Hedgehog when he moved to 3D. My advice to the Sonic the Hedgehog developers would be to SLOW Sonic down, and remove the homing attack, which takes all the fun out of having to aim your jumps on the enemies.
Bananas were harmed in the making of this video 😢
We need to weed out overrated from our vocabulary. It's just another word for "I don't like popular thing."
Sonic games have nice graphics and sounds and attitude, but I never cared for the gameplay. if I want to go fast in a platformer, I’ll play _Donkey Kong Country_ 🤷🏻♂️
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The term "overrated" (as well as "underrated") implies people are wrong for liking (or disliking) a game. I understand that what one really mean is that there's flaws or tropes other people are either missing or letting slip past scrutiny or that the are other, better games to play. Still, the term is pretty useless when discussing good or bad games. "Overlooked" or "under appreciated", now, those are terms I can accept for games that deserves more exposure!
In the end, we like what we like and if something is liked by a majority (but not by you) it just shows that you have a superior intellect and other people are stupid and biased. Bye, bye, I win!
We're getting a Rocket Knight Collection on modern systems! 🍌
One of the best RUclipsrs out there!
When games share the same flaws, yet one is loved and the other is hated, is the definition of overrated. Or at least thats what the definition ahould be.
My only beef with OoT is that the controls/gameplay is awful. The concept of waiting for an enemy to turn around then attack gets old after a while. Camera angles were awful, especially when doing puzzles. Using bombs was difficult. Being told how to store bombs every time you pick it up is annoying, etc.
If OoT wasnt a zelda game it would have been a flop.
❤ The Banana Hype turned out weak!!! I saw chocolate more 😶🌫️🤫
Zelda OoT 3DS is amazing but over all I’d say OoT is over hyped imo. I grew up with the game I love it but the gnarly things I’ve heard the fans say about this game I will admit goes overboard sometimes like borderline lieing about the games features and content/story.
Did you hear about the limited run for Rocket Knight?
Sure did!
I was a really big FF7 fan back in the day, but these days it just doesn't click for me in the same way. Just because it's not my cup-of-tea doesn't mean it's overrated. These days I prefer FF6.
I have a hard time picking up OoT and Majoras Mask. Maybe I'll give them another try sometime. FWIW Minish Cap is my favorite Zelda. One could say that game is...underrated. 😂
But yeah... for any game there will always be someone that likes the game more than me...and same for less than me. No reason why I would really mind too much. So what if we have different tastes. I get to choose which games I play and don't really let others' opinions spoil my fun. 😁
Minish Cap is the Best Zelda everyone forgets about its in my top 3 with Majoras Mask and the original Links Awakening
@@wangchung2157Okay but kinstones were not a great mechanic yet are very prevalent in that game.
I'm with barak Obama, you mean minish crap?
ff7 and 6 are interchangable for me, they are equals imho. the vast cast of characters in 6 with their own unique abilities is just great.
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Loved seeing the Nomad with a Tower.
I actually eat my bananas by sn\pping it in half in the middle with brute strength. that way i can save the other half for later and its still nice and cosy in its jacket
good thing you corrected that mistake lol
Thanks mate, I fancy banana custard now 😮😮😊
IMO, Mega Man 2 is one of the most overrated games of all time. Im not saying its a bad game by any means and its definetly one of the strongest of all the original titles. What gets me is whenever someone says its the greatest Mega Man game of all time and its never been done better since. I'm like, "Are you seriously trying to tell me that 2 was better than the first 4 Mega Man X games? Get outta here!"😂
Yeah Mega man games I agree they are over rated.
Just played through Sonic 2 again last week. That game is excellent!
Until you fight the 2 last bosses, then it's trash
Please collaborate with TechDweeb 😂 your guy's sense of humor together would be bomb!
lol "Witness protection for that one" 🤣
Final Mpeg 7 had way too many cutscenes. It was a fun game overall, but man they were pushing that FMV hard in the early days of the CD-ROM format.
They were really pushing 3D content creation tech at the time, but the PS1 didn't have enough power to render it, so FMV it was.
Needs more pineapple jokes.
I love Zelda, but Ocarina does not click with me still. I’ve yet to push through it all. Also, FF7 has become less favorable for me over time because of navigating the world is awkward. Now Earth Bound, it’s has continued to grow on me. But make no mistake, none of these are overrated.
Which zelda games do you like?
@@abstractdaddy1384 Honestly, I don't mind Ocarina, it just doesn't do it for me like Wind Waker or Link to the Past. I like every mainline game to a certain degree, except Zelda 2 was miserable for me... I swore a lot. I have never played the CD-i games, but they seem dreadful. I overviewed my collection not long ago.
As far as ff7 goes I used to hate it but in reality I hated how overrated it was, it was great but do I think it's the best final fantasy no 6 is IMO
Nanner Dreams? DK64 here we go!
I love your videos, I can reminisce and learn and laugh and I appreciate the work you’ve done that demonstrates the banana’s fantastic potential as a practical learning aid and increases awareness of its surprising versatility which will surely have a positive effect on general banana awareness too and every little bit helps. (Go bananas!)👍
Nobody can be bothered hating something that isn't popular. Sometimes a person just feels like pushing back against the self-reinforcing nature of popular opinion. Sensible primates open bananas from the tip.
Ocarina of Time is one of my very favourite games, but outside of its warm, whimsical tone and a few very memorable sequences, I think the main thing going for it is that it's a Zelda game that doesn't really mess up too much. The whole series is typically pretty great, but there's a lot of stuff I don't relish coming back to in Wind Waker, Majora's Mask or Twilight Princess. In OoT, it's really just the Water Temple. I don't think it's impossible to make a better Zelda. I just don't think Nintendo have yet.
Well, I'm not gonna lie... I'm always ecstatic when a new trashy Sonic game comes out, because I'm feeding on the tears of that Stockholm Syndromed fanbase.
While I don't think Ocarina of Time is overrated, it is interesting that you showed footage from the 3DS version which irons out a few of the flaws (maybe the only flaws?) of the original: the framerate is better, and changing items and especially boots is less of a chore because of the second screen. I think my most controversial opinion is that I don't think the original Metal Gear Solid is all that great. But, I can see why people were blown away at the time and why a lot of people would still say it's a great game, so I guess I don't really think its overrated, just not for me.
Oot 3d was so much better. You could go back to your bed and have a rematch with all of the bosses
I asume you are talking about ps1 metal gear? The original is on the nes...
@@Gonzalo_105 yes, Metal Gear Solid for the PS1. I just meant to differentiate it from MGS2 since a lot of people don’t like that one. I think Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2 play better than Metal Gear Solid (and the MSX version of Metal Gear is better than the NES port, but I have a soft spot for the NES port because I played that one the most back in the day)
The 3DS version only fixed part of the mechanics and added one more item imput. But that's about it. OoT still has flaws that could've been addressed better.
Never had Earthbound in the UK, don't think was released here. Also never had a SNES ha. But looks interesting, bit like Pokémon. Also I know you didn't mention this but Sonic 3 is not overrated ha, it's awesome. Especially with knuckles plugged in
Did I see a Breath of Fire III box appearing? Yas!
Rocket knight on the Genesis is the most over rated game much like bananas are the most over rated fruit.
Tryin' to trigger me haha. Well played :)
I enjoyed all of the SNES power rangers games I purchased in 2009 or 2010.
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