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Fantastic effort in those conditions, and sound decision to call it when you did. I have been on much of the West Highland Way, over some years of visits from my home in tropical North Queensland, but most often in milder months! Your videos take me back to Munro bagging with my soulmate (who did them all, some two times and a few three times in fact). He lost a battle with Cancer 4 years ago, and died too soon too young, and I doubt I will ever be able bring myself to visit Scotland without him. Watching your channel reminds me of the best years of my life. We were in Wales with his family when he succumbed, but not before we stayed one last time at Hawthorn Cottage Glencoe, 3 weeks before the end. In so many of your videos that I have watched so far, you tread trails and stand in spots we stood, and it brings back how wonderful it felt to be there with him. It is bittersweet, but thank you.
Excellent video again! 100% agree with the decision! I really think recording such decisions is a fantastic way to teach safety on the trails. Especially with someone as experienced as yourself. It proves that safety always comes first and never regret turning back. Thank you
Thanks Caroline, absolutely agree - sometimes things that seem easier in summer condition take on a whole new perspective in a Scottish Winter (whether that be a hill walk or a trek through the Glens :)) Take care , thanks for watching and ATB for The New Year Murray
Yes it isn’t just the weather that’s the problem, even driving can be gruelling , by the time you get to John O Groats , cars, caravans and motor bikes often end up suffering the worst for wear. The terrain is hard going.
I guess one of the bright spots is…no midges! What a challenge you two put on yourselves. I’m just happy I’m watching it in my nice, warm living room in my comfy recliner! 😆. ATB
Had the privilege of completing the West Highland Way a couple of times, but never in a million years would I try it in winter. One of those things at times you think to yourself why the Fk am I doing this?!?, but good company and the experiences it brings are unforgettable for sure. All the best for 2023.
You have to be smart, or you end up as a warning for others of what not to do. This is the example young men especially need to see. Took guts to get so far as you did in my book. Thanks
Epic conditions! Good to see Ray again but you did the right thing to call it a day. No point in suffering and risking hypothermia. Hats off to you both for getting as far as you did and especially to your gallant rescuer!🥶🏴🥾❄️
It's gas I'm watching Ray ages, only started watching your videos.. & who should pop up in the first few minutes... Only the man himself 😂😂😂, great stuff & his good self has always been a kind fella anytime I asked for advice.. God bless yous & keep up the good life 🤝🤝🤝
Looks like proper character building stuff, good decision to call it a day where you did. Hats off to Gerry for coming to get you.. That stretch along Loch Lomond is hard work in any weather neverminf the conditions you had.
Epic Murray, just shows that even a recognised trail in Scottish winter conditions is no walk in the park. Respect to you for the effort and video, even more respect to the ability to call it quits. Well done
I have done this hike few years back.We were a group of South Africans.We did it early Summer. Was a lovely hike and could embrace the beauty all around.Had wet days too.But nothing heavy.Tried to climb Ben Nevis but had to turn around due to heavy rain and mist the day.Sad about that.Since it was our main aim on this trip.Our group having climbed Kilimanjaro together as well.Will have to go again.Just cannot see the fun in doing this hike in Winter and night.You are challenging the weather conditions very much.Love Scotland.
Good effort in tough conditions boys ! Ma proudest accomplishment in life was finishing the west highland way solo in winter 2020 during the lockdown, no pubs or cafes no shops , jist me , ma bivvy and ma ruck, only food a ate was what a carried. Barely any people either given the time of year and the lockdown conditions, few ramblers , couple hill walkers , one Dutch farmer shouting at me from 20 yards away wearing a mask, "what are you doing here !? You've walked from a tier 4 area to a tier 2 area" dafty he was , told him let me eat ma soup n I'll be on ma way. Journey took 5 nights and 6 full days early starts before dawn and stopping around 4pm to get a quick lean too or A frame thrown up afore dark, was a whole load of pain and hardships, wet and cold constantly, and a fungi infection on ma nob cause a didn't even look at ma frozen wee pecker the whole time just about, but it was truly challenging and amazing and makes ye feel good to overcome them hard times and look back on em with a smile. Was right to call it though, ave had to walk away from a couple mountains in ma day too, better to come back and tackle it again another time than push on blindly if you know it's beyond you.
The part you were sitting at Bienglas trying to keep smiling. Brilliant, brought back memories of my first experience of WHW. March 1975, me and my two pals, the pocket money mountaineers. At 15 yrs old we earned £2.50 a week as milk boys. Our technical gear was a campari summit high pack, a bluet stove and my grandfathers cavalry twill hand me down trousers. One week of freezing horizontal sheets of water my wee thin peters stores cagoul gave up after 3 hours. But we laughed and laughed. Keep up the productions. I have had quadruple heart surgery, chronic back pain and a destroyed cruciate ligament (climbing accident) your videos give me inspiration to go through the pain barrier and get out on the hills, or at least tell my grandweans the tales.
Brilliant...Good call on stopping...I never considered the WHW in winter but after watching this I may have a pop at it next winter. Thks for sharing .
What can I say about this. You should be very proud of what you and Ray done. To have got to the underpass on the A82 in those conditions is totally amazing given those conditions. Myself and my friend got to that exact spot in May last year where my mate called it a day and we pushed on into Tyndrum before he headed home. I went on solo and completed the 96 miles. Definitely you have made the right choice. What an achievement Murray, very well done.
Brilliant advice, what we have come to expect from Murray and refreshing to see the respect you have for mother nature....Great seeing you and Ray out again !
Despite the conditions an excellent video. And showing the correct decision. I think it is important to show adventures that don't go to plan as well as those that do! Gerry, what a legend! I think you owe him more than a pint.
Thanks for showing this type of hike when it is tough and difficult decisions need to be made. Keeping safe is always the correct course of action. My neighbour is a member of the Mountain Rescue and they have had so many callouts this year to help walkers who were ill equipped and having poor knowledge of where they were or what they were attempting to achieve. Your content is always compelling to watch. Thanks.
Murray, I arrived at Crainlarich in the early hours (4 am) of the 23rd, deep snow and ice once you left the road, carried onto the Bridge or Orchy, no snow just black ice. Christmas Day hiked up Stob Ghabhar, just a bit of ice and mainly slush until the last 400 metres from the top, then it was like walking into a winter wonderland, deep snow, vast ice spots, bitter wind, snow showers, freezing. Tried to get to the summit but had to call it from 100 metres short of the summit, conditions were dangerous plus the weather was changing. The next few days we had some heavy snow, followed by heavy rain and very strong winds, right mess, so you weren't alone out there guys, good fun though. Atb Bill
my first view of your work, planned to do WHW as a sponsored walk in 2000 but foot and mouth stopped us. Sadly never got round to doing it. You are obviously a very experienced outdoor person which is a lesson to all of us when your experience says no. Not sure the excellent video really shows how tough those conditions were but it was a fascinating watch. I look fwd to watching more of your adventures. Thanks
Absolutely right call guys. Completed the WHW 2021 in better weather and round the Loch is tough. Not sure we would have tackled it in winter conditions. Your video lets people see how bad it gets in Scotland. I was hoping you would call it earlier,could feel every step of your pain. Well done, glad you got back safe. What a great guy Gerry is.
Murray, excellent video. Safety is the most important thing to encompass our everyday adventures. The fact you and Ray made a very wise decision and included this on your video, shows the experience you have. The West Highland Way will be there for another day and i for one, look forward to that video. Clarity is our friend and the decision taken was clear. All the best in 2023
Terrific effort Murray. Right from the start on soaking slippy ground with full pack on. The Inversnaid to Inveroran was torcherous never mind the snow. Love your footage. To the extent you have inspired me to get back on the hills and climbed Ben Vorlich last weekend, not bad for a 69 year old. Keep it up I look forward to your next adventure.
Hi Murray. As a follower of your adventures and a resident of 'northish' Loch Lomond - at Arrochar, I can absolutely attest to the huge differences in snow depth (and thaw) during that three day period. I recorded 14" of snow during the Friday into Saturday and whilst the rainfall was biblical during the following days, very little moved or thawed here - it was as you said, very localised. Both you and Ray made the right call... But for me, the message is clear in having a friend/legend/someone to call on and the ability to call them. I'm with you all the way with enjoying a little solitude - but - to have someone, to be able to contact someone, even on the most innocuous routes - is paramount.. so important... No place for bravado.. Very well done both. A short hike with with a powerful message. Happy New Year pal. Jim.
Hi Jim, glad someone was able to clarify, the amount of snow between Inversnaid and even Doune Byre Bothy was ridiculous !! Same as I looked to the Glen Coe web cams and saw zero snow on the train back down! As you say it was very localised, maybe another year we will try again and perhaps get some nicer conditions :) Take care , thanks for watching and ATB for The New Year Murray P.S. keep up the good work on your vid sir
Can't wait to get into bed and watch this video ! I also can't wait until the weather is a little better and days are longer to get myself back out there and see more of the home country 🏴
I walked it Easter 1996 (stayed in Bothies). Incredible hike! Lovely to see it again from my couch. Congratulations on calling it. Hard to do but smart.
This is such a good video, because it demonstrates so well how severe the weather can be and how it is necessary to have all the appropriate gear as well as several alternatives to your plan in mind, including bailing out, like you did! It was the right thing to do, with those burns all running so fast and furious, I'm certain!
A sound mountaineering decision Murray. The conditions looked sh*t so hats off for sticking with it that far. And well done to Gerry in Thunderbird 2 for picking you up. All the best to you, Ray and Gerry for next year 🍻
Holy moly! I'm over by Gareloch and know exactly the day you called it! Can't believe that you were out on the WHW that day. Definitely the right call. It's a long time since I've formally done the WHW but I've stayed in Doune Bothy myself. North end of Loch Lomond before and after it is absolutely the most challenging. I was kinda open-mouthed when you were suggesting you were going to push to Bridge of Orchy. Amazing footage though. Thanks for sharing, glad you'e both safe.
twas a wild and wet Scottish winters day which beat us !!lol - next time I may wait until we can see the trail ;) lol Thanks for watching and ATB for 2023 Murray
And the master said "fight on to glory" and the soldier cried "get safe and go back" and the soldier lived. PLEASE, on the hills, be sensible you are not the master, the hills, the conditions and the weather are. Well done Murray and hats off to Gerry for the rescue (a decent malt at least!)
Did the WHW in May 2017. Snow and freezing overnight temps. I did the way in 5 days. I did the lakeshore route along Lomond and boy was it energy sapping with a large pack. I was really struggling and stopped at the bothy. Stove and hot food and a sleeping bag nap. Returned to the path and it was a real stretch to beinglas. I agree with Ray that was a real hard stretch. Got to know your limits on this long distance walks. I had a short day at Tyndrum as snow was falling ~ in May. My goal was orchy but too cold. Pitched in Tyndrum. Next day set off early and saw too lads who had camped overnight with hypothermia. Had to get them to a farmers cottage. Plan for 5 days but expect 6 days.
Great video, guys. That bothy was in the right place at the right time, it looked lovely. Shame you couldn't continue but very much the correct decision made in the end. Cheers
Visited Scotland and Skye last summer, 62 and first holiday in Scotland, it was fantastic, the scenery is like nothing else, very different from North and South Wales, cannot wait to return
Did this back in late May, with pretty decent weather except the first and last day. Didn't do much research as I knew it was very popular and the first two days it was easily the busiest long walk I'd started. Quite annoying, if I'm being honest, in places and accepting that me being there was adding to the numbers. Day two I thought, looking at the map, would be a straight forward walk alongside Loch Lomond. Nope, the hardest day for me from memory. I seem to remember getting to where I'd roughly planned, at the end of the day, but was surprised as to how winding the path was by the Loch shore. Thanks for the vid and for bothering to attempt it in that weather, not for me for sure.
Yesterday evening when I went to bed, I was thinking of a wintertrip along the WHW. And this morning your video was provided to me by youtube. Some kind of AI? This could be frightening. Thank you for sharing this adventure. This will have impact to my plans, no question. All the best for 2023.
The Three Amigos! Brilliant video. No frills, no glamour, just dealing with difficult conditions until common sense dictates enough is enough and discretion is the better part of valour. That's what it's all about.
Totally the right call there stopping when you did, I've seen another RUclipsr push on and have to call for emergency assistance, which is putting someone else at risk as well. Glad you both got home safe and well!
Have nothing but respect and admiration for you for doing this in the poor weather conditions and also taking all your gear with you! I did this in Sept 2022,it was glorious sunshine the entire 10 days and I stayed at B&Bs and had my luggage transferred! I bet Conic Hill and Lochmond were the hardest. Stunning views though
Good grief, how gruelling was that??! I was willing you to give up earlier than you actually did, and when you finally made that decision I was relieved. I think Jerry deserves more than a pint, Murray!! Well done both of you, and well done for filming as much as you did. You deserve a medal. Happy New Year for 2023, Murray!
Knowing when to quit and planning alternatives is so important. We all love to push ourselves in one way or another but accepting our limits is key. If it all goes wrong, it's not just our lives we risk but also those who come out to save us from peril. Yet another excellent video, thanks.
this is just stunning .i want to buy a small bit of land back home in Scotland in the middle of nowhere. just so I can breath this air and see these beautiful sights
This was the first video I came across of yours..I'm now hooked . Thank you for such luvly little programmes, I don't bother with tv now..I just watch these .x
I think this is one of your best and most interesting videos. Felt like I could feel every step through that sludgy snow and the cold wetness as it seeped through. Glad you bailed and lived to tell the tail.
Great video, what a trek you and Ray made in such awful weather. Better safe than sorry, good decision to call it. And Jerry to the rescue! I got cold watching you guys and had to break out my whiskey and have a wee bit. Thanks for sharing Murray. Good to see you and Ray together, and tell Jerry to stay classy!
Well done Murray & Ray! You both absolutely called it right. Also, what a top notch friend you have in Gerry, to come and rescue you both. On a plus note, you & Ray have inspired me to have a go at the West Highland Way but not in the winter. I've been building up my light-weight camping set-up recently, including a Durston X Mid Solid 1P tent plus I've built myself up a light-weight cooking set-up including a Trangia spirit stove, a Trangia triangular stand and a Toaks 750ml pot. I shall for ever be grateful to you and Ray for inspiring me to get exploring outdoors. May I wish you both a Happy & successful New Year. Kindest regards, Chris Harris
I did the first half of the West Highland Way during a mild spell in March 2018 with a tent (Vango Nevis), carrying all my food. Absolutely loved it. I camped on Conic Hill the first night, near Rowchoish Bothy the second night and in Bogle Wood near Crianlarich the third night.
Good ole Jerry to the rescue! 🙌 Thanks for sharing this vid, it's important to show people that it doesn't always go to plan and you sometimes have to make a judgement call. Good shout on bailing too! I did the WHW in August 2020 and that section between Beinglas and Tyndrum was torrential. The paths were burns, the burns were raging rapids and the rivers were downright scary and bursting their banks. If we hadn't planned ahead hadn't booked a room in the Tyndrum bunkhouse we would have almost certainly headed back to Glasgow on the train. That section after Inversnaid is definitely the trickiest/most challenging of the WHW (I ended up falling on the steep section going down toward Rob Roy's Cave, flat on ma back wi one arm trapped under me, flapping about like a turtle lol). Anyway, the day we did Beinglas to Tyndrum, in the torrential rain, there were people doing that awful Inversnaid to Beinglas section in the same horrible weather... only to arrive at Beinglas and the Campsite was 2 feet under water! I remember seeing 3 lassies post on insta that they arrived late at night having battled that section in the rain to find the Campsite under water. Thankfully the Drovers let them camp in their grounds. Anyway, moral of that story is that we can't get complacent, even on the WHW which many consider a dawdle. When the weather is against ye and its miserable, there's no shame in bailing. It is, after all, meant to be enjoyable! 😊 Bliadhna mhath ùr! 🥃🔥
It was a worry for me after last years injury , however my physio work seems to be helping and my knees were well strapped up for this adventure with the big pack on !! The physio training has been intense this year but it is working so I am keen to keep going with it into 2023 :) Thanks for watching and ATB for 2023 Murray
Brillant, love that you embrace the difficult decisions that needed to be made. Better that, than mountain rescue coming to your aid or worse becoming a statistic! Well done lads, maybe next year
The only thing more exceptional than the weather was Gerry! That man is a legend and my better half and I love it when he is in your videos, clearly a skilled mountaineer and a great person to have in your life. 🏔️🏔️
Thankyou Murray for another fantastic adventure. Down here in Devon a centimetre of snow/ice is enough to bring things to a halt, so you did fantastically to get so far. Look forward to your next installment.
The West Highland Way will still be there for you to have a bash at when the weather is more tenable... Making the decision to bale out was obviously the only decision worth taking... A great video again, with Gerry to the rescue... that's what friends are for...
My toes feels numb watching this !! Big hello from Ireland 🇮🇪❤️🏴 No way badgers...so lovely to see them! I've only ever seen dead badgers on the road side 😭😭
Thank you Murray, Thank you Ray, Thank you Gerry, you called it right, no point in risking it in these conditions and harming yourselves. Always time to try again in the future. It was just too harsh and nobody can blame you for letting it go for another day. At the very least it will show people how bad conditions can get up here and serve as a good lesson on when it is time to call it a day. Thank you both for another superb video of Scotland.
Thanks John, I concur - the weather can get you anywhere in Scotland. One of the reasons we chose the West Highland Way was the fact that it is relatively easy to bail out. I had another long trek planned (hoping to do it later this year) and that wouldn't have been so easy to bail from! Glad to have had the adventure and lived another day !:) Thanks for watching and ATB for 2023 Murray
Here re waterproofing my coat just as this video popped up, rain sure does get in , called it right for so many reason as you said ,time restrictions etc still a great watch
Great effort Murray by both you & Ray. The conditions looked dreadful at times for you. The two days up to Beinglas Farm campsite are quite a challenge even in summer, the rocky, tree rooted Eastern side of Loch Lomond was difficult when we walked the WHW in July 2006. A great video once again & I'd like to wish you both a Happy New Year. 🎉🥃🥳💙 It took us (my son Daniel, friends Phill, Peter & myself), a total of seven days to complete the West Highland way. We raised over £3500 for our local hospital & bowel cancer UK after having lost my wonderful Dad, Ralph to the disease in November 2005. A truly memorable adventure. ✅⭐👏💙🥃
It's all an adventure Murray! Called it right. Wet cold and dark isn't always that awesome ☺️. Great film anyhow! Still waiting for more snow down here 😎
What an adventure ....Good call to bail out disappointing but sensible.Great video and particularly enjoyed the recap at the end . Many people will benefit from your sensible advice Murray so it was a success ..... well done to you both for your endurance!
Brilliant Video with some great advice within. And when I saw the title I thought this could be an interesting and tough challenge, Having completed the WHW on 2 occasions recently with a 3rd later this year. But i doubt if i would try it in such conditions, And i have spent 3 years of my life in the Arctic. Unlucky with the weather, Great video, All the best Andy
It’s definitely a story. I’ve watched some fantastic videos you’ve filmed ascending some munros in winter that I couldn’t imagine doing and then you show this where the WHW gets the better of you! It proves you definitely cannot to anything for granted! Thanks and a very Happy New Year to you and your fellow hikers.
Really good adventure for a winter one. Good to see that what ever you do it is okay and sensible to make the decision to leave it for another day it will always be there. And Gerry what can I say a legend and a gent
A great effort by you and Ray, Murray. And what a guy, that Gerry. He was able to take a break from his ice-dangling to come to the rescue. Fascinating video, thanks for sharing it with us. Hope the knee is holding up!
Thanks for sharing your journey. I completed this hike with 4 colleagues in 3 days and 4 hours, in much better weather. Cudos to you both for the exit decision. I believe it was the correct, safe choice! I would encourage you to revisit the whw in a warmer climate.
Thanks for all the comments - Part Two is here if of interest - ruclips.net/video/QdgUXU0hEjU/видео.htmlsi=Khh01i-R_YWcVEsU
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Thanks all
Murray
Fantastic effort in those conditions, and sound decision to call it when you did. I have been on much of the West Highland Way, over some years of visits from my home in tropical North Queensland, but most often in milder months! Your videos take me back to Munro bagging with my soulmate (who did them all, some two times and a few three times in fact). He lost a battle with Cancer 4 years ago, and died too soon too young, and I doubt I will ever be able bring myself to visit Scotland without him. Watching your channel reminds me of the best years of my life. We were in Wales with his family when he succumbed, but not before we stayed one last time at Hawthorn Cottage Glencoe, 3 weeks before the end. In so many of your videos that I have watched so far, you tread trails and stand in spots we stood, and it brings back how wonderful it felt to be there with him. It is bittersweet, but thank you.
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Excellent video again! 100% agree with the decision! I really think recording such decisions is a fantastic way to teach safety on the trails. Especially with someone as experienced as yourself. It proves that safety always comes first and never regret turning back. Thank you
Thanks Caroline, absolutely agree - sometimes things that seem easier in summer condition take on a whole new perspective in a Scottish Winter (whether that be a hill walk or a trek through the Glens :))
Take care , thanks for watching and ATB for The New Year
Murray
@@ScotlandsMountains Happy New Year to you and yours. Thank you for your inspiration and sharing the beauty we live in
Yes it isn’t just the weather that’s the problem, even driving can be gruelling , by the time you get to John O Groats , cars, caravans and motor bikes often end up suffering the worst for wear. The terrain is hard going.
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@@ScotlandsMountains Summer?! Well, I spend much of my trek wading through mud! The route gets a lot of footfall!
Medieval self flagellation came to mind when I watched this video, sensible decision made and Gerry to the rescue 🙂
I guess one of the bright spots is…no midges! What a challenge you two put on yourselves. I’m just happy I’m watching it in my nice, warm living room in my comfy recliner! 😆. ATB
good point Erin - funnily enough no wee beasties were encountered on our trip!! lol
Thanks for watching and ATB for 2023
Murray
Had the privilege of completing the West Highland Way a couple of times, but never in a million years would I try it in winter. One of those things at times you think to yourself why the Fk am I doing this?!?, but good company and the experiences it brings are unforgettable for sure. All the best for 2023.
Thanks 👍 Well done for getting that far.
A for Effort Lads! Mon The Bothies!! All the best for 2023
You have to be smart, or you end up as a warning for others of what not to do. This is the example young men especially need to see. Took guts to get so far as you did in my book. Thanks
This was the first time I have seen someone on RUclips try the WHW in winter....cool to watch your attempt.
Epic conditions! Good to see Ray again but you did the right thing to call it a day. No point in suffering and risking hypothermia. Hats off to you both for getting as far as you did and especially to your gallant rescuer!🥶🏴🥾❄️
It's gas I'm watching Ray ages, only started watching your videos.. & who should pop up in the first few minutes... Only the man himself 😂😂😂, great stuff & his good self has always been a kind fella anytime I asked for advice..
God bless yous & keep up the good life 🤝🤝🤝
Looks like proper character building stuff, good decision to call it a day where you did. Hats off to Gerry for coming to get you.. That stretch along Loch Lomond is hard work in any weather neverminf the conditions you had.
Epic Murray, just shows that even a recognised trail in Scottish winter conditions is no walk in the park. Respect to you for the effort and video, even more respect to the ability to call it quits. Well done
Another quality expedition. Where common sense showed that that no matter what experience you have to put common sense first for it to work well .
I have done this hike few years back.We were a group of South Africans.We did it early Summer. Was a lovely hike and could embrace the beauty all around.Had wet days too.But nothing heavy.Tried to climb Ben Nevis but had to turn around due to heavy rain and mist the day.Sad about that.Since it was our main aim on this trip.Our group having climbed Kilimanjaro together as well.Will have to go again.Just cannot see the fun in doing this hike in Winter and night.You are challenging the weather conditions very much.Love Scotland.
Good effort in tough conditions boys ! Ma proudest accomplishment in life was finishing the west highland way solo in winter 2020 during the lockdown, no pubs or cafes no shops , jist me , ma bivvy and ma ruck, only food a ate was what a carried. Barely any people either given the time of year and the lockdown conditions, few ramblers , couple hill walkers , one Dutch farmer shouting at me from 20 yards away wearing a mask, "what are you doing here !? You've walked from a tier 4 area to a tier 2 area" dafty he was , told him let me eat ma soup n I'll be on ma way. Journey took 5 nights and 6 full days early starts before dawn and stopping around 4pm to get a quick lean too or A frame thrown up afore dark, was a whole load of pain and hardships, wet and cold constantly, and a fungi infection on ma nob cause a didn't even look at ma frozen wee pecker the whole time just about, but it was truly challenging and amazing and makes ye feel good to overcome them hard times and look back on em with a smile. Was right to call it though, ave had to walk away from a couple mountains in ma day too, better to come back and tackle it again another time than push on blindly if you know it's beyond you.
The part you were sitting at Bienglas trying to keep smiling. Brilliant, brought back memories of my first experience of WHW. March 1975, me and my two pals, the pocket money mountaineers. At 15 yrs old we earned £2.50 a week as milk boys. Our technical gear was a campari summit high pack, a bluet stove and my grandfathers cavalry twill hand me down trousers. One week of freezing horizontal sheets of water my wee thin peters stores cagoul gave up after 3 hours. But we laughed and laughed. Keep up the productions. I have had quadruple heart surgery, chronic back pain and a destroyed cruciate ligament (climbing accident) your videos give me inspiration to go through the pain barrier and get out on the hills, or at least tell my grandweans the tales.
Brilliant...Good call on stopping...I never considered the WHW in winter but after watching this I may have a pop at it next winter.
Thks for sharing .
Good decision to bail when you did. And good on Gerry to leave his comfortable Prow to pick you both up.
Really respect you for teaching us all when to be safe and sane!
What can I say about this. You should be very proud of what you and Ray done. To have got to the underpass on the A82 in those conditions is totally amazing given those conditions. Myself and my friend got to that exact spot in May last year where my mate called it a day and we pushed on into Tyndrum before he headed home. I went on solo and completed the 96 miles. Definitely you have made the right choice. What an achievement Murray, very well done.
You both made the right decision, safety first..
Brilliant advice, what we have come to expect from Murray and refreshing to see the respect you have for mother nature....Great seeing you and Ray out again !
Despite the conditions an excellent video. And showing the correct decision. I think it is important to show adventures that don't go to plan as well as those that do!
Gerry, what a legend! I think you owe him more than a pint.
Thanks for showing this type of hike when it is tough and difficult decisions need to be made. Keeping safe is always the correct course of action. My neighbour is a member of the Mountain Rescue and they have had so many callouts this year to help walkers who were ill equipped and having poor knowledge of where they were or what they were attempting to achieve. Your content is always compelling to watch. Thanks.
Another great adventure Murray. As Kenny Rogers said "You've gotta know when to hold them and know when to fold them" Cheers mate.
Murray, I arrived at Crainlarich in the early hours (4 am) of the 23rd, deep snow and ice once you left the road, carried onto the Bridge or Orchy, no snow just black ice. Christmas Day hiked up Stob Ghabhar, just a bit of ice and mainly slush until the last 400 metres from the top, then it was like walking into a winter wonderland, deep snow, vast ice spots, bitter wind, snow showers, freezing. Tried to get to the summit but had to call it from 100 metres short of the summit, conditions were dangerous plus the weather was changing. The next few days we had some heavy snow, followed by heavy rain and very strong winds, right mess, so you weren't alone out there guys, good fun though. Atb Bill
my first view of your work, planned to do WHW as a sponsored walk in 2000 but foot and mouth stopped us. Sadly never got round to doing it. You are obviously a very experienced outdoor person which is a lesson to all of us when your experience says no. Not sure the excellent video really shows how tough those conditions were but it was a fascinating watch. I look fwd to watching more of your adventures. Thanks
You will meet the banshee up in this mountains /old house !
That old cottage house you guys stayed in looks super old ...very cool!
Absolutely right call guys. Completed the WHW 2021 in better weather and round the Loch is tough. Not sure we would have tackled it in winter conditions. Your video lets people see how bad it gets in Scotland. I was hoping you would call it earlier,could feel every step of your pain. Well done, glad you got back safe. What a great guy Gerry is.
Murray, excellent video. Safety is the most important thing to encompass our everyday adventures. The fact you and Ray made a very wise decision and included this on your video, shows the experience you have. The West Highland Way will be there for another day and i for one, look forward to that video. Clarity is our friend and the decision taken was clear. All the best in 2023
Terrific effort Murray. Right from the start on soaking slippy ground with full pack on. The Inversnaid to Inveroran was torcherous never mind the snow. Love your footage. To the extent you have inspired me to get back on the hills and climbed Ben Vorlich last weekend, not bad for a 69 year old. Keep it up I look forward to your next adventure.
Hi Murray. As a follower of your adventures and a resident of 'northish' Loch Lomond - at Arrochar, I can absolutely attest to the huge differences in snow depth (and thaw) during that three day period. I recorded 14" of snow during the Friday into Saturday and whilst the rainfall was biblical during the following days, very little moved or thawed here - it was as you said, very localised. Both you and Ray made the right call... But for me, the message is clear in having a friend/legend/someone to call on and the ability to call them. I'm with you all the way with enjoying a little solitude - but - to have someone, to be able to contact someone, even on the most innocuous routes - is paramount.. so important... No place for bravado.. Very well done both. A short hike with with a powerful message. Happy New Year pal. Jim.
Hi Jim, glad someone was able to clarify, the amount of snow between Inversnaid and even Doune Byre Bothy was ridiculous !! Same as I looked to the Glen Coe web cams and saw zero snow on the train back down! As you say it was very localised, maybe another year we will try again and perhaps get some nicer conditions :)
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P.S. keep up the good work on your vid sir
@@ScotlandsMountains thank you very much... 👍
Can't wait to get into bed and watch this video !
I also can't wait until the weather is a little better and days are longer to get myself back out there and see more of the home country 🏴
I walked it Easter 1996 (stayed in Bothies). Incredible hike! Lovely to see it again from my couch. Congratulations on calling it. Hard to do but smart.
It's extremely useful for us less experienced to see that you professionals sometimes bail out for safety reasons. Tnx a million!
The Scottish weather can get you , no matter where you are!!lol - it was pretty brutal
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Agree
wow Hats off for getting that far they were some conditions.
This is such a good video, because it demonstrates so well how severe the weather can be and how it is necessary to have all the appropriate gear as well as several alternatives to your plan in mind, including bailing out, like you did! It was the right thing to do, with those burns all running so fast and furious, I'm certain!
A sound mountaineering decision Murray. The conditions looked sh*t so hats off for sticking with it that far. And well done to Gerry in Thunderbird 2 for picking you up. All the best to you, Ray and Gerry for next year 🍻
thanks Ian
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Holy moly! I'm over by Gareloch and know exactly the day you called it! Can't believe that you were out on the WHW that day. Definitely the right call. It's a long time since I've formally done the WHW but I've stayed in Doune Bothy myself. North end of Loch Lomond before and after it is absolutely the most challenging. I was kinda open-mouthed when you were suggesting you were going to push to Bridge of Orchy. Amazing footage though. Thanks for sharing, glad you'e both safe.
twas a wild and wet Scottish winters day which beat us !!lol - next time I may wait until we can see the trail ;) lol
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And the master said "fight on to glory"
and the soldier cried "get safe and go back"
and the soldier lived.
PLEASE, on the hills, be sensible you are not the master, the hills, the conditions and the weather are.
Well done Murray and hats off to Gerry for the rescue (a decent malt at least!)
Awesome stuff ..excellent video thank for posting.
Did the WHW in May 2017. Snow and freezing overnight temps. I did the way in 5 days. I did the lakeshore route along Lomond and boy was it energy sapping with a large pack. I was really struggling and stopped at the bothy. Stove and hot food and a sleeping bag nap. Returned to the path and it was a real stretch to beinglas. I agree with Ray that was a real hard stretch. Got to know your limits on this long distance walks. I had a short day at Tyndrum as snow was falling ~ in May. My goal was orchy but too cold. Pitched in Tyndrum. Next day set off early and saw too lads who had camped overnight with hypothermia. Had to get them to a farmers cottage. Plan for 5 days but expect 6 days.
Incredible video ... loved the landscape
It’s truly stunning.
Great video, guys. That bothy was in the right place at the right time, it looked lovely. Shame you couldn't continue but very much the correct decision made in the end. Cheers
Visited Scotland and Skye last summer, 62 and first holiday in Scotland, it was fantastic, the scenery is like nothing else, very different from North and South Wales, cannot wait to return
Did this back in late May, with pretty decent weather except the first and last day. Didn't do much research as I knew it was very popular and the first two days it was easily the busiest long walk I'd started. Quite annoying, if I'm being honest, in places and accepting that me being there was adding to the numbers. Day two I thought, looking at the map, would be a straight forward walk alongside Loch Lomond. Nope, the hardest day for me from memory. I seem to remember getting to where I'd roughly planned, at the end of the day, but was surprised as to how winding the path was by the Loch shore. Thanks for the vid and for bothering to attempt it in that weather, not for me for sure.
Yesterday evening when I went to bed, I was thinking of a wintertrip along the WHW. And this morning your video was provided to me by youtube. Some kind of AI? This could be frightening. Thank you for sharing this adventure. This will have impact to my plans, no question. All the best for 2023.
One of your best videos yet Murray, fully get the decision to bail too🥶
The Three Amigos! Brilliant video. No frills, no glamour, just dealing with difficult conditions until common sense dictates enough is enough and discretion is the better part of valour. That's what it's all about.
Totally the right call there stopping when you did, I've seen another RUclipsr push on and have to call for emergency assistance, which is putting someone else at risk as well. Glad you both got home safe and well!
Have nothing but respect and admiration for you for doing this in the poor weather conditions and also taking all your gear with you! I did this in Sept 2022,it was glorious sunshine the entire 10 days and I stayed at B&Bs and had my luggage transferred! I bet Conic Hill and Lochmond were the hardest. Stunning views though
I live on the south coast of England and we have it easy compared to you guys, great video I wish I had been with you.
Great effort lads. Kudos for attempting the WHW in they conditions.
absolute hats off fellas, bailing is never a good feeling at the time but living to fight another day is!
Good grief, how gruelling was that??! I was willing you to give up earlier than you actually did, and when you finally made that decision I was relieved. I think Jerry deserves more than a pint, Murray!! Well done both of you, and well done for filming as much as you did. You deserve a medal. Happy New Year for 2023, Murray!
Knowing when to quit and planning alternatives is so important. We all love to push ourselves in one way or another but accepting our limits is key. If it all goes wrong, it's not just our lives we risk but also those who come out to save us from peril.
Yet another excellent video, thanks.
this is just stunning .i want to buy a small bit of land back home in Scotland in the middle of nowhere. just so I can breath this air and see these beautiful sights
What a trip, thank God for Gerry
It's great to watch these feats of endurance from the comfort of your arm chair. Beware you don't end up with sciatica like me.
Thanks for the HC.
Valiant effort Murray and Ray, you called it right as you said and got home safe
That’s some effort that mate , well done
Greetings from expats in Australia feeling the heat in Summer!
Good effort✊️ it's a different ball game walking in the snow, you did it in the snow and dark! Respect to you and friend 👏👏
This was the first video I came across of yours..I'm now hooked .
Thank you for such luvly little programmes, I don't bother with tv now..I just watch these .x
Thanks Vanessa and welcome to the channel - hope you enjoy some of the videos and adventures we have over here :)
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Murray
As always your photography and narration is exceptional. It's wonderful seeing a route I've walked several times look so very different.
thank you - hope you enjoyed the video
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Murray
I think this is one of your best and most interesting videos. Felt like I could feel every step through that sludgy snow and the cold wetness as it seeped through. Glad you bailed and lived to tell the tail.
I am so thanksful for CC ..beautiful landscapes
Great video, what a trek you and Ray made in such awful weather. Better safe than sorry, good decision to call it. And Jerry to the rescue!
I got cold watching you guys and had to break out my whiskey and have a wee bit.
Thanks for sharing Murray. Good to see you and Ray together, and tell Jerry to stay classy!
Your health and safety is far more important than finishing the Way. Thank you so much for sharing your adventure.
Well done Murray & Ray! You both absolutely called it right. Also, what a top notch friend you have in Gerry, to come and rescue you both. On a plus note, you & Ray have inspired me to have a go at the West Highland Way but not in the winter. I've been building up my light-weight camping set-up recently, including a Durston X Mid Solid 1P tent plus I've built myself up a light-weight cooking set-up including a Trangia spirit stove, a Trangia triangular stand and a Toaks 750ml pot. I shall for ever be grateful to you and Ray for inspiring me to get exploring outdoors. May I wish you both a Happy & successful New Year. Kindest regards, Chris Harris
I did the first half of the West Highland Way during a mild spell in March 2018 with a tent (Vango Nevis), carrying all my food. Absolutely loved it. I camped on Conic Hill the first night, near Rowchoish Bothy the second night and in Bogle Wood near Crianlarich the third night.
Went on the WHW in March 2022 with me lady had a great time bar one -5°c night with non appropriate gear is heaven there
good luck Chris - hope you have a blast when you do the west highland way -
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You seriously do not need any cooking gear ,, plenty of places to eat and folks leave stuff out in the way ,,, uneccesary weigh,,
Well done Murray & Ray another cracking video.Shame you both couldn’t finish the WHW unfortunately Mother Nature a war we can’t win .
Good ole Jerry to the rescue! 🙌
Thanks for sharing this vid, it's important to show people that it doesn't always go to plan and you sometimes have to make a judgement call. Good shout on bailing too!
I did the WHW in August 2020 and that section between Beinglas and Tyndrum was torrential. The paths were burns, the burns were raging rapids and the rivers were downright scary and bursting their banks. If we hadn't planned ahead hadn't booked a room in the Tyndrum bunkhouse we would have almost certainly headed back to Glasgow on the train.
That section after Inversnaid is definitely the trickiest/most challenging of the WHW (I ended up falling on the steep section going down toward Rob Roy's Cave, flat on ma back wi one arm trapped under me, flapping about like a turtle lol).
Anyway, the day we did Beinglas to Tyndrum, in the torrential rain, there were people doing that awful Inversnaid to Beinglas section in the same horrible weather... only to arrive at Beinglas and the Campsite was 2 feet under water! I remember seeing 3 lassies post on insta that they arrived late at night having battled that section in the rain to find the Campsite under water. Thankfully the Drovers let them camp in their grounds.
Anyway, moral of that story is that we can't get complacent, even on the WHW which many consider a dawdle. When the weather is against ye and its miserable, there's no shame in bailing. It is, after all, meant to be enjoyable! 😊
Bliadhna mhath ùr! 🥃🔥
My knees were aching just watching you on this feat!
It was a worry for me after last years injury , however my physio work seems to be helping and my knees were well strapped up for this adventure with the big pack on !! The physio training has been intense this year but it is working so I am keen to keep going with it into 2023 :)
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Brillant, love that you embrace the difficult decisions that needed to be made. Better that, than mountain rescue coming to your aid or worse becoming a statistic! Well done lads, maybe next year
Wow, that was tough going. If anyone is going to know its not safe to carry on its you two. Thank heavens for Gerry, he's a star.👍
The only thing more exceptional than the weather was Gerry! That man is a legend and my better half and I love it when he is in your videos, clearly a skilled mountaineer and a great person to have in your life. 🏔️🏔️
Glad you made it home, safe and sound.
Thankyou Murray for another fantastic adventure. Down here in Devon a centimetre of snow/ice is enough to bring things to a halt, so you did fantastically to get so far. Look forward to your next installment.
The West Highland Way will still be there for you to have a bash at when the weather is more tenable... Making the decision to bale out was obviously the only decision worth taking... A great video again, with Gerry to the rescue... that's what friends are for...
The weather changes like crazy in the west Highlands! Do it in the summertime!!
My toes feels numb watching this !!
Big hello from Ireland 🇮🇪❤️🏴
No way badgers...so lovely to see them! I've only ever seen dead badgers on the road side 😭😭
Thank you Murray, Thank you Ray, Thank you Gerry, you called it right, no point in risking it in these conditions and harming yourselves. Always time to try again in the future. It was just too harsh and nobody can blame you for letting it go for another day. At the very least it will show people how bad conditions can get up here and serve as a good lesson on when it is time to call it a day. Thank you both for another superb video of Scotland.
Thanks John, I concur - the weather can get you anywhere in Scotland. One of the reasons we chose the West Highland Way was the fact that it is relatively easy to bail out. I had another long trek planned (hoping to do it later this year) and that wouldn't have been so easy to bail from! Glad to have had the adventure and lived another day !:)
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@@ScotlandsMountains Thank you Murray, Happy New Year for 2023 and hope you have a good year.
Really enjoyed watching this, thanks.
Here re waterproofing my coat just as this video popped up, rain sure does get in , called it right for so many reason as you said ,time restrictions etc still a great watch
Great effort Murray by both you & Ray. The conditions looked dreadful at times for you.
The two days up to Beinglas Farm campsite are quite a challenge even in summer, the rocky, tree rooted Eastern side of Loch Lomond was difficult when we walked the WHW in July 2006.
A great video once again & I'd like to wish you both a Happy New Year. 🎉🥃🥳💙
It took us (my son Daniel, friends Phill, Peter & myself), a total of seven days to complete the West Highland way. We raised over £3500 for our local hospital & bowel cancer UK after having lost my wonderful Dad, Ralph to the disease in November 2005. A truly memorable adventure. ✅⭐👏💙🥃
It's all an adventure Murray! Called it right. Wet cold and dark isn't always that awesome ☺️. Great film anyhow! Still waiting for more snow down here 😎
Good drills Murray! A real adventure. 👍
Excellent video as always Murray, good call! The WHW will be there for another day! Very best to you and yours for 2023.
What an adventure ....Good call to bail out disappointing but sensible.Great video and particularly enjoyed the recap at the end . Many people will benefit from your sensible advice Murray so it was a success ..... well done to you both for your endurance!
Brilliant Video with some great advice within. And when I saw the title I thought this could be an interesting and tough challenge, Having completed the WHW on 2 occasions recently with a 3rd later this year. But i doubt if i would try it in such conditions, And i have spent 3 years of my life in the Arctic. Unlucky with the weather, Great video, All the best Andy
It’s definitely a story. I’ve watched some fantastic videos you’ve filmed ascending some munros in winter that I couldn’t imagine doing and then you show this where the WHW gets the better of you! It proves you definitely cannot to anything for granted! Thanks and a very Happy New Year to you and your fellow hikers.
Can’t blame you on the decision mate, did the trail back in summer 2020 and that was hard enough to do in 5 days nevermind the winter, great effort
Really good adventure for a winter one.
Good to see that what ever you do it is okay and sensible to make the decision to leave it for another day it will always be there. And Gerry what can I say a legend and a gent
A great effort by you and Ray, Murray. And what a guy, that Gerry. He was able to take a break from his ice-dangling to come to the rescue. Fascinating video, thanks for sharing it with us. Hope the knee is holding up!
Yep, safety first and you can rightly be proud of yourselves!
That was truely an adventure Murray! It definitely was better drama than a TV adventure program ....Cheers!
Thanks for sharing your journey. I completed this hike with 4 colleagues in 3 days and 4 hours, in much better weather. Cudos to you both for the exit decision. I believe it was the correct, safe choice!
I would encourage you to revisit the whw in a warmer climate.