If you are a federal employee you are pretty much screwed with everything! The agency/employer, HR, OSC, MSPB, OFO and EEOC all know it. The EEOC will be against you and side with the agency because your rights are limited with time frames, claims, lawyers and settlements. Since they are so backlogged, all those entities that are supposed to protect you and your employee rights will close your case even though you are 100% in the right or your case is 100% legit. Stay strong, don't back down and keep on fighting!! Good luck😇🤞🙏
My grandmother lost her job of 30 years but she was entitled to 11 months of severance pay and benefits. She had worked there for so long she was locked in to her severance pay before the employer ended severance. In fact, she had been there so long her supervisor didn't know she was even entitled to severance but boy he found out after they fired her. Three months later he was gone. Oh and he wasn't entitled to severance because he only been there a few years.
I'm glad it ended okay for your grandmother, at least she was able to realize some benefit for her commitment of 30 years. My guess is her super hadn't been there quite as long and didn't see the end coming. Thank you for watching!
The EEOC right to sue letter can be harmful to you as you try to find new jobs. Apparently, future employers can see that you've received an EEOC right to sue letter and will not hire you and will use pretext to discriminate against you and hide thr retaliation.
When employees file an EEOC complaint most of the time it's because they feel they have no other option. Unfortunately the process often works against them.
@Over50tv Yes, I totally agree. Employers somehow have a way of finding out about a person's past EEOC filings, which can really hinder a person's ability to secure future employment if companies can unfairly avoid hiring you and using a pretextual excuse!
I called numerous agencies after I quit my 15 year career and started applying for other jobs. I was being harassed by the HR person. I had emails as proof. But the agencies I called (EEOC, Dept of Labor, Insurance Commission) all pointed the finger at the other agency saying that it was not something they handled. My experience with this is that if something happens where you feel wronged, you are on your own unless you have the funds to pay attorneys to personally sue them. Since my proof was only of personal bullying and defamation of character (HR person sent a very hostile email about me to another prospective job request), I did not have solid proof of discrimination, my only proof was of bullying and defamation. Surprise!!!! Bullying is not illegal!!! I was told that it's immoral, but in the eyes of the government systems it is not illegal. And that the defamation is a civil issue, so they don't deal with that either. So that is why when they want to push you out, they can bully you and talk bad about you and get away with it as long as you cannot prove it was discrimination. Which is very difficult to prove in most cases.
Very interesting story. It's ridiculous that you had to go through that stuff. Unfortunately, that is the bureaucratic system we're stuck with. It's a system that I don't think has ever worked right.
I have paid $70,000 to my attorney so far in my EEOC process. My employer is currently willing to settle for $62,500. So if I accept that settlement I will have lost $7,500.
Sorry to hear this. If the companies attorneys are on retainer they have no incentive to settle quickly. It's almost always the employee who incurs the exorbitant legal fees. The system is broken.
This is a little misleading. Yes, you may lose your job because the employer is in a right to work state. However, if they fire you, they will have to compensate you. Who wants to go work for an employer that treats employees crappy?
I agree. Unions, like almost everything in life, have their positives and negatives, but having one is often better than not having one. Right now employees are completely on their own.
Lou, I think that over 50's workers are waking up to the unfair practices that employers play, and instead deciding to start a business, even if it doesn't pay much in the beginning.
@@Over50tv For example my ex and brothers ex both accused us of beating them during divorce. Neither of us hit a woman in our lives. Someone might conclude based on the "data" that women in divorces are especially vulnerable to violence. In reality in the two example I gave it's the opposite - whereby they are enacting the violence of the State for profit. People do this stuff because women and the weak men that support these ideologies have attached special extra government privileges to fake victimhood and no penalties for bearing false witness. It's everywhere now and spreading.. including in business.
HR works for the company, not the employees. They will do anything that benefits the company, not you, so it's not surprising nor not surprising people just quit instead of trying to fight it.
Yes, I agree it's not surprising people would rather quit than fight. One Over50tv viewer says he spent $70K in attorney fees in his EEOC process only to be offered a settlement of $62K. That doesn't include the time and stress I'm sure he endured.
If you are a federal employee you are pretty much screwed with everything! The agency/employer, HR, OSC, MSPB, OFO and EEOC all know it. The EEOC will be against you and side with the agency because your rights are limited with time frames, claims, lawyers and settlements. Since they are so backlogged, all those entities that are supposed to protect you and your employee rights will close your case even though you are 100% in the right or your case is 100% legit. Stay strong, don't back down and keep on fighting!! Good luck😇🤞🙏
Yep, most employees don't have the resources to defend themselves, even if their case is ironclad.
My grandmother lost her job of 30 years but she was entitled to 11 months of severance pay and benefits. She had worked there for so long she was locked in to her severance pay before the employer ended severance. In fact, she had been there so long her supervisor didn't know she was even entitled to severance but boy he found out after they fired her. Three months later he was gone. Oh and he wasn't entitled to severance because he only been there a few years.
I'm glad it ended okay for your grandmother, at least she was able to realize some benefit for her commitment of 30 years. My guess is her super hadn't been there quite as long and didn't see the end coming. Thank you for watching!
The EEOC right to sue letter can be harmful to you as you try to find new jobs. Apparently, future employers can see that you've received an EEOC right to sue letter and will not hire you and will use pretext to discriminate against you and hide thr retaliation.
When employees file an EEOC complaint most of the time it's because they feel they have no other option. Unfortunately the process often works against them.
@Over50tv Yes, I totally agree. Employers somehow have a way of finding out about a person's past EEOC filings, which can really hinder a person's ability to secure future employment if companies can unfairly avoid hiring you and using a pretextual excuse!
I called numerous agencies after I quit my 15 year career and started applying for other jobs. I was being harassed by the HR person. I had emails as proof. But the agencies I called (EEOC, Dept of Labor, Insurance Commission) all pointed the finger at the other agency saying that it was not something they handled. My experience with this is that if something happens where you feel wronged, you are on your own unless you have the funds to pay attorneys to personally sue them. Since my proof was only of personal bullying and defamation of character (HR person sent a very hostile email about me to another prospective job request), I did not have solid proof of discrimination, my only proof was of bullying and defamation. Surprise!!!! Bullying is not illegal!!! I was told that it's immoral, but in the eyes of the government systems it is not illegal. And that the defamation is a civil issue, so they don't deal with that either. So that is why when they want to push you out, they can bully you and talk bad about you and get away with it as long as you cannot prove it was discrimination. Which is very difficult to prove in most cases.
Very interesting story. It's ridiculous that you had to go through that stuff. Unfortunately, that is the bureaucratic system we're stuck with. It's a system that I don't think has ever worked right.
You are so right about this! This behavior often gets dismissed as “petty annoyances”.
I have paid $70,000 to my attorney so far in my EEOC process. My employer is currently willing to settle for $62,500. So if I accept that settlement I will have lost $7,500.
Sorry to hear this. If the companies attorneys are on retainer they have no incentive to settle quickly. It's almost always the employee who incurs the exorbitant legal fees. The system is broken.
This is a little misleading. Yes, you may lose your job because the employer is in a right to work state. However, if they fire you, they will have to compensate you. Who wants to go work for an employer that treats employees crappy?
I doubt the firing would happen immediately, most likely it would happen over time. Most of them are unlikely to ever see a red cent.
I think being in a union would definitely prevent being let go
Not 100 percent but way more protection for the worker than no union
I agree. Unions, like almost everything in life, have their positives and negatives, but having one is often better than not having one. Right now employees are completely on their own.
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Thank you! I appreciate the support.
Lou, I think that over 50's workers are waking up to the unfair practices that employers play, and instead deciding to start a business, even if it doesn't pay much in the beginning.
Yeah, Dave, I believe you are right.
Correlation vs causation May be the reason. Umbrellas don't cause rain - the rain causes umbrellas.
There's a preponderance of evidence that suggests causation, although as we know both can exist simultaneously.
@@Over50tv For example my ex and brothers ex both accused us of beating them during divorce. Neither of us hit a woman in our lives. Someone might conclude based on the "data" that women in divorces are especially vulnerable to violence. In reality in the two example I gave it's the opposite - whereby they are enacting the violence of the State for profit. People do this stuff because women and the weak men that support these ideologies have attached special extra government privileges to fake victimhood and no penalties for bearing false witness. It's everywhere now and spreading.. including in business.
HR works for the company, not the employees. They will do anything that benefits the company, not you, so it's not surprising nor not surprising people just quit instead of trying to fight it.
Yes, I agree it's not surprising people would rather quit than fight. One Over50tv viewer says he spent $70K in attorney fees in his EEOC process only to be offered a settlement of $62K. That doesn't include the time and stress I'm sure he endured.
Just started video. In your country is that legal?
I don't know if it's legal, but if it's not legal it's certainly another one of those things that is hard to prove.
@@Over50tv wow. i sure hope it is easier for the employee to win in israel.