GT350R vs ZL1 1lE track battle at Thunderhill West (Part I)
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- Опубликовано: 28 мар 2020
- An exciting and fun battle against a ZL1 1LE. The 1LE is one of my favorite cars, I always get excited when I see one at the track. Enjoy the video.
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That letter in the passenger floorboard is fucking with me 😖
😂😂😂. I think it was the track layout print out. It messed me up too when editing the video. Next time I'll put a fire extinguisher there that doesn't move.
Shoutout to the 350r for not falling behind with 100 hp less
Thanks. I enjoyed the race :)
The power difference doesn't really mean much unless it is driven by a professional driver.
r_vs_zle do you know the dude in the ZLE
Not to make excuses, just pointing out a technicality, a ZL1 in a circuit track setting is down at least 50 horsepower due to excessive intake temperatures. It has two maps that pull timing based on downstream manifold and IAT temps. All stock on a track they pull around 6-10 degrees normally. That said reduced timing in a blown car like a ZL1 does not reduce lowend and mid range torque as much as you'd think so it's still got that stump pulling power out of the corners.
@@aaron_1le456 sorry for the late reply my dude. Yeah he is a good friend.
That ZL1 1LE is awesome! What a legend!
Lifelong Camaro guy here. The ZL-1 1LE is my dream car and everyone know that the track advantage with the same driver goes to it, but…… I always wish it sounded as good as the Mustang and sometimes I almost think I would give the Mustang the advantage in the looks department if I wasn’t so smitten with the Chevy. Awesome cars and great driving. Thanks for the bud!
I don't get those Mopar boys and their 1/4 mile times. This is so much more fun. Talking about those worn Cup 2's... Yeah, I've got a prepped 1st gen CTS-V and used to run a Honda Civic. That's the one disasvantage of high torque V8's on the track. They eat tires like snacks.
I agree this is a lot more fun than 1/4 mile runs. That CTS-V will eat those rear tires in quick time. I moved away from Cup 2s since, too expensive and loses tread and grip quickly.
@@leggoracing8451 I run Yoko A052's.
The 1LE is definitely the superior track car but the fact that you kept up with him like that shows how superior of a driver you are. I guarantee if you were in the same car as him you would’ve SMOKED his ass!
I definitely agree the 1LE is going to be faster around a track, all else constant. The limits of these cars are so high that you aren't going to notice them unless it's a professional driver behind the wheel.
The Mustang 360 R is just plain cool !!
It's so bad ass! I love it!
ZL1 IS A BEAST ! GM REALLY DID A PHENOMENAL JOB ON THAT CAMARO!
What a great video! Thank you for sharing. Two great cars on a great day!
YW! just friends having some fun
good driving. nice vid. subbed man.
Thank you man! Much appreciated!
Nice, car, driving and sound...subbed.
Much appreciated! More fun track content coming soon 😉
Awesome thanks
I don’t want to be a YT troll.....but, your lap belt should go across your pelvic girdle. Especially with a 4pt harness. I run a Schorth ASM 4pt so I don’t need a sub belt as well. Good car control and threshold braking though! Your lines are proof that HP can be negated somewhat by better skill.
You are not being a YT troll at all. Thanks for the recommendation, you are 100% right, I was also moving around the seat more than I would like, I have the lap belt a lot lower now. Thanks for looking out for a brother!
@@leggoracing8451 I love how humble you are and that you took the advice. Straight up great driving sir.
@@vincebermudez869 Thank you Vince! I believe we can all learn from each other, I'm not a know it all by any means.
@@leggoracing8451 i saw that and I couldn't help but commend for that. 👍
It’s saying a lot when a car in a lesser performance class out drives you! A SS 1LE would’ve been a closer match up but the 350R don’t care! One day I’d like to see a GT500, a ZL1 1LE, and a viper ACR go head to head on a track like this.
Coming soon! Stay tuned for our latest videos on other tracks
Why viper? The viper would lose even without the use of a vette or GT40
@@MichaelDouglas-24…😂 Good one bud!
Nice driving. The driver of the ZL1 is slow and can't really hit apexes....
This is purely driver oriented. We all know the ZL1 is superior on a track like this
@@davidlosey183 said nobody ever
ZL1 has more HP tho
@@yusufgta4341 And GM Alpha chassis is world class and generates more mechanical grip which never hurts either. Honestly, I don't know why people continue to compare 350r vs ZL1/ZLE, aiming too high.
Best marketing the Mustang could ever do for me. What a solid machine!
Dude what tires are u running your grip is so consistent not to mention ur so smooth
Goodyear F1 Supercar 3.
awesome video! the GT350R is a beast
It sure is!
Mustang looks much cooler, but the Camaro is really impressive.
Each to their own I guess I think the Camaro looks better lol
Oh no it’s definitely the Mustang
Doesn’t the 1LE have a splitter and canards on the front end? That alone would make it a quicker car on the track even if hp was the same…
That 5.2L engine sound! Excellent battle...Camaro with more HP, torque and GT350R with better handling and brakes.
Couldn't agree more!
I disagree BIG TIME on the handling comment! 1LE alpha is FAR superior!
There's no way a gt350r could hang with a ZL1, most certainly not a ZL1 1LE. The 130hp difference is more than enough to dust the Ford. Not to mention the torque advantage the ZL1 has.
It really depends (mostly drivers game), however the gt350 with it's "lack of torque" is able to get on power out of a corner much earlier and harder than the ZLE. The ZLE requires smooth throttle inputs for tight turns otherwise you're just drifting or spinning.
@@leggoracing8451 true, the driver must have his game on but as you mentioned, the gt350r can come out of a corner faster and whatever advantage that may give it the ZL1 has more than enough stones to negate that. The ZL1 1LE however can stay with the gt350r through the turns then dust it when things open up. For proof of that I read the ZL1 1LE dusted the normal ZL1 the Nuremburg track, much quicker due to the wing and fins and suspension tweeks. Exactly how much faster I don't recall but it was significantly faster.
350 is an awesome track car but, everyone knows the zl1 Crushed the 350 On the Nürnberg race track where the test all the track cars. It’s was over 2-4 seconds faster, there not even in the same league. Also two professional drove the cars.
You said it! It's all in the driver
Just shows you how capable the GT350R actually is, when it can battle with a car that has a 100hp advantage.
Lets be honest...its the driver. If you drove the 1LE, you'd crush it even more so. Both cars are capable.
You mean the ZL1 that costs almost $10,000 less than a 2020 350R?
@@JKerr-iy2jr if you want quality and longevity, you have to pay for it.
@@Eraudog If by quality you are referring to blown voblew engines then yes you do pay more to go slower and have issues with oil consumption and vibrations that can potentially shake components loose. Yep, this sounds like quality... half finished products as usual. 350r has no chance against ZLE given equal drivers, just reality.
@@FL50ssp let's see here.....
Less than 1% of Gen 1 5.2L engines had issues, and it was narrowed down to one team that had a trainee that came from the Chrysler plan down the road. So if you want to cherry pick, by all means, knock yourself out.
Now, if we are going to talk about legit issues, let's talk about the ZL1 supercharger, and the problems that GM continues to ignore since 2014 that causes catastrophic failures, and it's not isolated to one issue, it's the entire build.
So sorry for your lack of legitimate rebuttal.
this is dope
if possible I'd like to see a 3rd camera filming his footwoork
Thank you! We are actually planning on adding a foot cam. We will have it in future videos :)
@@leggoracing8451 noice!!
that's cool
Looks fun. !!
It's all the fun
Both awesome cars but the 1le has proven its faster. Lap times with same driver in both cars and the Z is faster. Superior driver in the 350 here its obviously 👍
All about balance and chasing the throttle throughout the corner.
HP is nothing without driveability and balance.
350 R has it in spades.
Sticking and moving I said sticking and moving...😍😍😍😁😁😁✌✌✌
But good driving
Purely driver oriented. We all know car for car in a straight away mustangs are faster but around corners on a track like this Porsche and Camaros win all day
@@uncle_salty_3675 race circuits are not drag races.
@@uncle_salty_3675 actually it isn't its a roll race. 350R is a collector car and should get beaten by a blower car. It is a pure driver experience though. I have GMs also. the ZL will be forgotten easily, not the 350R
Well the ZL1 1LE has 70+more HP than the Shelby GT350R. Duh, ZL1 would win a drag race. If it's 2020 Shelby GT500, then it will be a different story. The new DCT in the GT500 is no joke.
@@yusufgta4341 I think your math is a little off on HP difference between ZLE and 350r. Either way Camaro ZLE is faster and outperforms 350r in every performance category.
@@02hreblue30
I’m not so sure the zl1 1LE will be forgotten . Camero is almost done with production and the days of big motor manual trans is almost over . The 1LE may be a collector down the road too.
1le just looks better 😏 no competition
I love Camaros but the 350 looks better tbh. The 1le still looks great
The gt350r should be fair running the z28 the zl1le is more a race car with pretty much slicks and 125 more hp and 200 foot pounds of torque
I love both cars. 1LE has the power and torque advantage, the 350r has that special something that connects to your soul. Excited to drive both back to back at the track after this outbreak.
Tires are comparable between the two.
@@leggoracing8451 Don't forget Alpha chassis which is a big advantage for Gen 6 Camaro. 350r doesn't compare well against ZL1/ZLE total mismatch.
@@FL50ssp Don't talk bullshit mate, the R is every bit as good a handler as the 1le !!
@@arkhsm Not really, Alpha chassis is far superior to mustang. Driver mod in the ZLE in the video and not even close sorry. Proof for you here ruclips.net/video/wdmKb-pDxWg/видео.html SS 1LE having no troubles with 350R... that is until he tries to throw it away in turn 3. I'm in the SS 1LE, both drivers are advanced rating with tons of track time. In my case, I was still getting used to my new SS 1LE (~3rd track day with SS 1LE) and have since run just over .5 sec faster on the same track in similar conditions. 350 is a good car but the chassis is not at the level of Gen 6 Camaro.
GT350R ran which tires?
The OEM Cup 2s. They were corded after this day. I don't recommend them because the grip they provide doesn't last. Supercar 3R is what have been using since, same grip but better wear characteristics.
The stock GT350R tire size is 305's up front and 315's in back on the OEM carbon fiber wheels. Goodyear SC 3R's don't come in 315's, so are you running 325's in back?
Correct, 325 in the rear. Fits perfect. Cheaper and lasts longer as well
@@leggoracing8451 Thank you for the info, good to know! I was told by my 3 local tire suppliers that I should not run 325's in the rear with the carbon fiber wheels.
@@californiaexplorer5836 only thing that matters is the tire width not the aspect ratio. Michelins tend to run narrow for their width.
I know I'm not the only that saw the zL1 driver pull over and let the mustang driver pass em 4:11 fuk out here😆
Chases are always fun and it's good to switch it up for more video from the following car
r_ vs _zle true true definetly is but when it comes down to it we all know who REALLY wins this vs lol
You did well considering that ZL1 1LE can even leave a GT500 CFTP behind on a track.
Lmao, put down the crack pipe.
I would say the gt500 beats the 1LE on track when both cars are on new sets of tires and with stick equipment.
@@burgerbandit3646 😂
Ummm... No. There are multiple videos done by pro drivers in both cars. The 350R is quicker around a track than a 1LE. The 500 should be even quicker.
@@leggoracing8451 Maybe on the first lap by a few tenths of a second, what about lap 2 onwards? Yeah GT500 is slower and now behind ZLE. Check the facts big heavy car with mediocre chassis and lower mechanical grip will fall off once the tires are overheated and get greasy. Just physics and an inferior chassis design.
Was that a pathetic excuse I just seen on the screen ?
Zl1 tires are cold ??
Gt350 doing better in the corners. Zl1 pulls away on the straights
as a Camaro owner they always make jokes of mustangs in the rear view camera and this proves right.. lol
Unfortunately the zl1 driver has to get use to a numb driving experience but does get the benefit of large amounts of h.p. and a numb commute to work.
1LE driver was a rookie, turning in too late almost every corner.