Yessss, it’s not avoidable for some of us as well, I’ve had a migraine triggered by flashing on a tv IN A HOSPITAL WAITING ROOM I’m lucky it didn’t trigger a full seizure as they have before but yeah, it’s not avoidable for a lot of us in a lot of ways. Thankyou for this 💜
Yeah. I like Markiplier's way of doing this, where theres a warning at the beginning, then a notice from his friend editor Lixian's character popping up, not even interrupting the content. Amazing. And I'm not even in need of the disclaimers, so really no complaints here.
James Hoffman makes content about coffee and when he's taste testing, he slurps. Since RUclips introduced the option to have several audio tracks (originally meant for different languages) for the same video, he uses this feature to provide a slurp-free audio track so viewers with misophonia can still enjoy his videos 😊
Wow that's amazing! I have misophonia and I didn't think something like this was possible. I personally prefer them to add captions to the video and then I can watch the video with the sound off (GMM is a good example of this).
I would love media - particularly streaming content - have settings options. For me that would be sound mixers so I could turn down soundtrack and sound effects to be able to hear dialogue. Also the ability to turn up brightness on those ridiculously dark TV shows and movies. Things that can already be done in gaming.
Oh yes, exactly! I very much like that in games. It's the first think I do. When I start a new game, I always protect my ears for the beginning movie part, before the setting are accessible, then put the sounds (music, backrounds, this sound like explosions I don't know the english word for) down and so am able to enjoy the game.
Thank you for this! It’s exhausting to be perpetually told that accessibility isn’t important. That there’s no option planned for our participation. That if a given event or media is inaccessible, we can just skip it. I wasn’t able to attend a once-close-friend’s wedding or my uncle’s funeral because no one thought “Oh. Person I allegedly want attending is bedbound. I should set up a livestream.” The funeral feels more excusable (though death was anticipated for a while), but to send a wedding invite with zero planning just felt like a slap to the face. Also the fact that people can’t even be bothered to mask in public or even medical settings, as if disabled people should (once again/still) be disappeared from public life. As if we aren’t more likely to need medical care and also to acquire infections in medical settings. Like, what kind of life is that? To almost always be an afterthought at best and usually not thought of at all!? Also “wannabe billionaires” is a perfect insult. Thank you for this and for all your advocacy.
We definitely need this sort of thing in the food industry, too. Let's say you have a food allergy, or even an immune disorder- like Celiac, for instance(something I deal with on a daily basis, as well as undiagnosed autism and difficulty interacting in public spaces); You need to know a lot more information than what's openly available to you. It's a lot more in depth than just 'is this ingredient in my food?' You have to know if there's shared equipment/prep surfaces involved. Are there risky ingredients hidden under a different name? Does this specific brand of spice/seasoning use flour or wheat starch as an anti-caking agent? What about the grains used in this product? Were they harvested or processed alongside wheat, barley, or rye? What about cross pollination? The list goes on. Folks working in the food service industry aren't always going to have the answers you need to know, and they aren't likely paid enough to know all the ins and outs of every food allergy, etc(Kudos to those who do, you folks have to put up with a lot of stuff). I'd say we need more transparency and accessibility in pretty much everything. There's lots of ways to do things and make things. Maybe we've just settled too heavily on the single most efficient route. Thanks for reading!
Dealing with newly cropping up heavily symptomatic celiac and have been getting more and more enraged at how little anybody cares at restaurants that are supposedly friendly to us. And at how companies are allowed to lie on their products about being gluten free while using spice blends that aren't or having other contamination paths. These laws need to be cracked down on much more heavily. I'd go out to eat much more often if there were more than a few places dedicated gf and certain safe within driving distance. This shit is hellish isolating.
OMG I ❤ what You said! You just perfectly explained it in a way I think (stress on the "I") no one could NOT understand it now. But people....some people....well....
I had no idea about this topic but I agree with you. Talking about me any content that is disturbing for me because of the lights is avoided right in that moment. They are missing clients.
Sometimes, I wonder how many of us have more photosensitivity than we realize? I went for years getting skin rashes (different from burns) in the sunlight before realizing it was the sun / UV triggering it, allowing me to be diagnosed with PMLE. Likewise, how many people believe they aren't photosensitive because they feel fine while viewing content containing strobing, only to feel a migraine hours later as a delayed reaction? In many cases (especially those of us with ADHD) it's easy to miss the connection because it doesn't happen immediately. If more efforts were made to decrease unnecessary strobing in media, and these events were announced clearly every time so that it *didn't* feel like a homogenized part of the experience, people might be able to more accurately identify this as a delayed migraine-triggering event. For these people, the way it's so casually and frequently blended into mass media makes it as easy to miss or ignore as the sugar in our food. It plays the long game. Content warnings are definitely appropriate and sufficient in some circumstances, because like you mention, there exists content that relies on the potentially inaccessible elements for education, clarity and context, it's going to permeate the video. But I think you make an excellent point about how, in general, just posting a disclaimer at the beginning of a video as a license to freely include unnecessary and alienating elements unnecessarily really isn't "making it accessible", and it certainly works against the spirit of accessibility, which is to keep a mindfulness about people, especially those with struggles different from our own. Alternate cuts, clear time skips, if people can't at least include that, then they really don't have the photosensitive members of their audience at heart and maybe they would prefer not to have that audience.
Also everyone needs accomodations with some things, it’s just disabled people are seen as not worthy of those things because of ableism and prejudice. If people think we just shouldn’t be able to have things because we need help with them then by that thinking, hairdressers, spas, restaurants/takeaways, buses/taxis/trains/planes, doctors, dentists, electricians/plumbers/builders, clothing stores etc, SHOULDNT exist and people just shouldn’t have those things if they can’t do them themselves. I am disabled and need help with some things, but I can also sew knit and crochet clothes, I can cut hair, and can do a lot of plumbing, my partner is also disabled and needs help, but they can fix electrics brilliantly, we rarely need handymen/repair people if anything in our flat breaks, like most people do, but other people need help with those things.
I’m not super familiar with disability laws, but I think usually accessibility is only required if it’s readily achievable, which means not too difficult or expensive. It takes the kick out of a lot of ADA laws because businesses can often say it would be a big expensive to make this accessible.
I used to volunteer to transcribe captions for content creators (before ai captions) but they'd get reallly mad when i offered. Later years went by and auto captions became a thing and the same people complained that they couldn't find any humans to help make the captions better. It's like, the feature of captions widened their audience and only then did they care how the accessibility feature performed. I don't volunteer anymore because it seems like an in crowd thing but yeah.
Can somebody with some “influence” also please start a conversation around the accessibility of “digital coupons” in grocery stores?! How do we put these things in the ground? If you can offer a low price, just offer the low price. They are confusing, elitist , ableist, ageist- all the “ists”!!! I hope dearly there is someone out there with a class action law suit brewing.
But it isn’t though, and it’s people with this fixed mindset that are the reason that change is slow. Just because I’m autistic does not mean that I should be disclosed from doing things that I love, and that everybody else gets to do. It’s really not that difficult to make things accessible. I think it’s interesting that people are so quick to tell me that I’m too much work, when the only reason I’m ‘being difficult’ is because they didn’t bother to accommodate me, and they won’t support me afterwards. My disability, however debilitating it is, shouldn’t cause me to be ostracised from the rest of society, because they’re not ready to accommodate me.
I’m always amazed by how certain people think it’s too much work to reach a wider audience, and then promotion, advertising departments etc put in obscene amounts of money to reach a wider audience. I think it maybe says something about those people’s attitude towards disabled or otherwise disadvantaged folk. Maybe they see it as fine to spend that money on people like themselves, just not on anybody else
Yessss, it’s not avoidable for some of us as well, I’ve had a migraine triggered by flashing on a tv IN A HOSPITAL WAITING ROOM I’m lucky it didn’t trigger a full seizure as they have before but yeah, it’s not avoidable for a lot of us in a lot of ways. Thankyou for this 💜
Yeah. I like Markiplier's way of doing this, where theres a warning at the beginning, then a notice from his friend editor Lixian's character popping up, not even interrupting the content. Amazing. And I'm not even in need of the disclaimers, so really no complaints here.
James Hoffman makes content about coffee and when he's taste testing, he slurps. Since RUclips introduced the option to have several audio tracks (originally meant for different languages) for the same video, he uses this feature to provide a slurp-free audio track so viewers with misophonia can still enjoy his videos 😊
Wow that's amazing! I have misophonia and I didn't think something like this was possible. I personally prefer them to add captions to the video and then I can watch the video with the sound off (GMM is a good example of this).
Oh my goodness amazing! Next time I watch one of his videos this will be so nice to know.
I would love media - particularly streaming content - have settings options. For me that would be sound mixers so I could turn down soundtrack and sound effects to be able to hear dialogue. Also the ability to turn up brightness on those ridiculously dark TV shows and movies. Things that can already be done in gaming.
Oh yes, exactly! I very much like that in games. It's the first think I do.
When I start a new game, I always protect my ears for the beginning movie part, before the setting are accessible, then put the sounds (music, backrounds, this sound like explosions I don't know the english word for) down and so am able to enjoy the game.
This would be amazing to have. My ears and eyes struggle so much with the medias.
Thank you for this detailed explanation
SATISFACTORY VIDEO!
Thank you for this! It’s exhausting to be perpetually told that accessibility isn’t important. That there’s no option planned for our participation. That if a given event or media is inaccessible, we can just skip it.
I wasn’t able to attend a once-close-friend’s wedding or my uncle’s funeral because no one thought “Oh. Person I allegedly want attending is bedbound. I should set up a livestream.” The funeral feels more excusable (though death was anticipated for a while), but to send a wedding invite with zero planning just felt like a slap to the face.
Also the fact that people can’t even be bothered to mask in public or even medical settings, as if disabled people should (once again/still) be disappeared from public life. As if we aren’t more likely to need medical care and also to acquire infections in medical settings.
Like, what kind of life is that? To almost always be an afterthought at best and usually not thought of at all!?
Also “wannabe billionaires” is a perfect insult. Thank you for this and for all your advocacy.
And also oh my gosh it would be amazing if media companies did this. My poor eyes.
We definitely need this sort of thing in the food industry, too. Let's say you have a food allergy, or even an immune disorder- like Celiac, for instance(something I deal with on a daily basis, as well as undiagnosed autism and difficulty interacting in public spaces);
You need to know a lot more information than what's openly available to you. It's a lot more in depth than just 'is this ingredient in my food?'
You have to know if there's shared equipment/prep surfaces involved. Are there risky ingredients hidden under a different name? Does this specific brand of spice/seasoning use flour or wheat starch as an anti-caking agent? What about the grains used in this product? Were they harvested or processed alongside wheat, barley, or rye? What about cross pollination? The list goes on.
Folks working in the food service industry aren't always going to have the answers you need to know, and they aren't likely paid enough to know all the ins and outs of every food allergy, etc(Kudos to those who do, you folks have to put up with a lot of stuff).
I'd say we need more transparency and accessibility in pretty much everything. There's lots of ways to do things and make things. Maybe we've just settled too heavily on the single most efficient route.
Thanks for reading!
Dealing with newly cropping up heavily symptomatic celiac and have been getting more and more enraged at how little anybody cares at restaurants that are supposedly friendly to us. And at how companies are allowed to lie on their products about being gluten free while using spice blends that aren't or having other contamination paths. These laws need to be cracked down on much more heavily. I'd go out to eat much more often if there were more than a few places dedicated gf and certain safe within driving distance. This shit is hellish isolating.
OMG I ❤ what You said!
You just perfectly explained it in a way I think (stress on the "I") no one could NOT understand it now.
But people....some people....well....
I had no idea about this topic but I agree with you. Talking about me any content that is disturbing for me because of the lights is avoided right in that moment. They are missing clients.
Sometimes, I wonder how many of us have more photosensitivity than we realize? I went for years getting skin rashes (different from burns) in the sunlight before realizing it was the sun / UV triggering it, allowing me to be diagnosed with PMLE. Likewise, how many people believe they aren't photosensitive because they feel fine while viewing content containing strobing, only to feel a migraine hours later as a delayed reaction? In many cases (especially those of us with ADHD) it's easy to miss the connection because it doesn't happen immediately. If more efforts were made to decrease unnecessary strobing in media, and these events were announced clearly every time so that it *didn't* feel like a homogenized part of the experience, people might be able to more accurately identify this as a delayed migraine-triggering event. For these people, the way it's so casually and frequently blended into mass media makes it as easy to miss or ignore as the sugar in our food. It plays the long game.
Content warnings are definitely appropriate and sufficient in some circumstances, because like you mention, there exists content that relies on the potentially inaccessible elements for education, clarity and context, it's going to permeate the video. But I think you make an excellent point about how, in general, just posting a disclaimer at the beginning of a video as a license to freely include unnecessary and alienating elements unnecessarily really isn't "making it accessible", and it certainly works against the spirit of accessibility, which is to keep a mindfulness about people, especially those with struggles different from our own. Alternate cuts, clear time skips, if people can't at least include that, then they really don't have the photosensitive members of their audience at heart and maybe they would prefer not to have that audience.
Also everyone needs accomodations with some things, it’s just disabled people are seen as not worthy of those things because of ableism and prejudice. If people think we just shouldn’t be able to have things because we need help with them then by that thinking, hairdressers, spas, restaurants/takeaways, buses/taxis/trains/planes, doctors, dentists, electricians/plumbers/builders, clothing stores etc, SHOULDNT exist and people just shouldn’t have those things if they can’t do them themselves. I am disabled and need help with some things, but I can also sew knit and crochet clothes, I can cut hair, and can do a lot of plumbing, my partner is also disabled and needs help, but they can fix electrics brilliantly, we rarely need handymen/repair people if anything in our flat breaks, like most people do, but other people need help with those things.
I’m not super familiar with disability laws, but I think usually accessibility is only required if it’s readily achievable, which means not too difficult or expensive. It takes the kick out of a lot of ADA laws because businesses can often say it would be a big expensive to make this accessible.
I used to volunteer to transcribe captions for content creators (before ai captions) but they'd get reallly mad when i offered. Later years went by and auto captions became a thing and the same people complained that they couldn't find any humans to help make the captions better. It's like, the feature of captions widened their audience and only then did they care how the accessibility feature performed. I don't volunteer anymore because it seems like an in crowd thing but yeah.
4:00 Couldn't the warnings be included and in the closed captions, so people can turn them on if they're needed?
4:48 auto skip would be nice for sure
I think you can just make it a separate chapter in a video so that the photosensitive viewer can just click to the next chapter.
The problem is that then they miss out on the content if they don't have access to a transcript or description of the scene.
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There is a bot filter, an off-brand version of Captcha, which I can't get past. The Home Depot has lost me as a customer.
Can somebody with some “influence” also please start a conversation around the accessibility of “digital coupons” in grocery stores?! How do we put these things in the ground? If you can offer a low price, just offer the low price. They are confusing, elitist , ableist, ageist- all the “ists”!!! I hope dearly there is someone out there with a class action law suit brewing.
If you don't have legs, you don't get to enjoy running. That's just life and how it is
Have you by chance heard of Oscar Pistorius? As an example.
But it isn’t though, and it’s people with this fixed mindset that are the reason that change is slow. Just because I’m autistic does not mean that I should be disclosed from doing things that I love, and that everybody else gets to do. It’s really not that difficult to make things accessible.
I think it’s interesting that people are so quick to tell me that I’m too much work, when the only reason I’m ‘being difficult’ is because they didn’t bother to accommodate me, and they won’t support me afterwards.
My disability, however debilitating it is, shouldn’t cause me to be ostracised from the rest of society, because they’re not ready to accommodate me.
I’m always amazed by how certain people think it’s too much work to reach a wider audience, and then promotion, advertising departments etc put in obscene amounts of money to reach a wider audience. I think it maybe says something about those people’s attitude towards disabled or otherwise disadvantaged folk. Maybe they see it as fine to spend that money on people like themselves, just not on anybody else
thank you for making this and expanding on your previous video! appreciate the perspective and education 🩵