Ive seen this done on zoom calls and always thought it was odd… but when being told why I thought it was amazing…. we often don’t think of these things because they don’t effect us…. we really need to consider others and do what we can to make their experience and life more accessible so we’re on a more level playing field… everyone deserves the same life experiences and entertainment…your comment helps others see that this is something that is helpful and yes people do benefit from this….
The whole "losing the ability to speak when overwhelmed or exhausted" thing directly happened to me just last night when my ex cornered me for a "discussion" when I was trying to go to bed... Several times I was trying to push words out and got stuck on "I..I..I..I..I.."
Doesn't sound like a nice time to be cornered for a discussion. If u r anything like me u were probably going to bed because otherwise u would have fallen down from exhaustion
It surprised me a bit that so many people who have a hard time getting their words out describe it like that. I'd always felt like I had this wall that was between my tongue and my words and over time I got better at pushing them through the wall and out the mouth, but it tends to lead to the words being blurted out even though it's exactly what I intended to say and normally I would just say it. As opposed to blurting things out because you're trying not to say them at all.
My now ex would deliberately torment me until I was running words together. He enjoyed getting a reaction from me and exasperating me. He complained about my monotone voice, would force me to do prolonged eye contact...ugh
@@recoveringsoul755 That cruel intent hurts and enrages me exponentially more than the actions themselves, and it always has. Did you get the "cute when you're angry" shtick or the "I'm just trying to help you be better" line? Or both? I've gotten both. Either way, it's just a bully exerting control and I'm glad you got away from that.
I'm noticing that your sentences often have nested clauses within clauses, digressions and explanations. It's very complicated and enjoyable to hear. I feel like I do the same thing and am constantly worried that most people won't be able to follow where my sentences are going and will miss my point.
You’d be surprised that people actually follow those tangents well, the trouble comes from tripping yourself up and forgetting where you were, what you said, or even forgetting the entire story for a moment - then they remind you the part just before what you said, and then you keep going with it - albeit a little more stressed out because you just spent 3 minutes setting up a point, and now you have completely forgotten, wasting 6 minutes in total between two people
@@flavourruling2162 I know that one. The other thing I've been noticing more about myself lately is that I just have no idea how to end a conversation. I usually just realize everything necessary has been said and quietly drift away. I feel like most people have a better idea of the beginnings and endings of interactions.
This is 100% how I think and I talk. I often try to tone it down especially for people who don't know me very well. But it's very rewarding when people can follow me, and I find people who communicate the same way. This is the first video I've seen from Sydney and it's very refreshing!
I have a bad habit of doing the "explaining around" thing but with entire stories. Instead of going "start, middle, end", I'll be like "start, unrelated character background story, the weather in that place last year, the political machinations of it's leaders, end". The peices all end up tying together in a way that (I think) creates a more impactful story, but people will often tune out before I get to the end. I've learnt as a result to preface what I'm doing - "So I'm going to tell a story, but I want to give it some context first."
That sounds a little like an ADHD trait to me! And a lot like a ME trait! I feel I have to OVERexplain everything. In the case of explaining to someone an event that occurred, which often includes myself, I will over explain so much that it sounds as if I’m defending myself, someone else, or some thing involved. Aaaannnddd, I probably AM doing just that! I have unresolved childhood trauma plus ADHD, whose traits overlap A LOT (particularly in women, and there’s evidence that chronic childhood trauma can “cause adhd”, but that topic is for another novel-length comment, for another day 😅), and they can often involve a lot of inherent shame. Inevitably, when you feel ashamed (most likely unnecessarily) or as though someone is shaming or judging you, you very naturally attempt to defend yourself! Childhood trauma can cause your brain (your mis-wired, abnormally developed brain) to jump into “explain and defend mode” as a means of protecting yourself from real, incoming danger (when you were in that time and place). Sad, but very, very true. I have an emotionally abusive father, who has (in the case of a disappointing or adverse event) always immediately placed blame on me and berated me without understanding what the actual circumstances were or why I made the decision to do what I did, to give a broad, sort of example. Therefore, I always attempted to defend myself and explain why/how I made the best decision available. Also, with ADHD, it’s just easy to get distracted with and wrapped up in details and, as a result, over talk when storytelling. As in adhd life, in adhd storytelling, details and side quests are of utmost importance!! 😂 To conclude, it really brings to my attention how closely-related many different types of neurodivergent conditions actually are. I understand there are many co-morbities, but this could actually explain the theory that neurodivergence is neurodivergence is neurodivergence, but definitely on a spectrum! And as for chronic childhood trauma, I believe the brain has developed and has been wired differently, therefore causing many of the traits associated with neurodivergence…….which is brains developing and being wired differently! Catch my drift?? 😂
I don't know that I'm autistic, but some of these speech patterns are very familiar to me. Namely, forgetting basic words and substituting them with non-word sounds. What's incredible to me is how often people can still understand what I mean. Like, I'll be working on something and need a certain tool and be like "hey can you pass me the... herbadeberp" and the guy i'm working with just goes and grabs the right tool for me.
Humans are very sympathetic, I don't think I am autistic at all, but something I notice a lot is that when I struggle with remembering a specific word, others will struggle too when I ask "whats that word when such-and-such happens" when I suspect if i just plainly asked them they would quickly find it. We both have the word in the backs of our mind now. Have you experienced this?
Or rather, if they had at that same instance wanted to use that word it would have been no problem. But because they are tuned into you it takes them a minute to recall that word
@@odinentertainment1079 oh yeah, been there many times. I'm not sure if it's more a sympathetic response or the brain being suddenly asked to recall a specific word when not in speach mode, but 100% i've had that many times
i heavily relate to the cluttering. as an autist i've always felt that my brain moves faster than my body does, in that i speak very quickly (cluttering), write too quickly (whoops i have dysgraphia), and walk very quickly.
I clutter a lot and will stop mid sentence and my brain will go blank, i will also sometimes confuse words and say a word that sounds similar to the word I was trying to say a lot or will pronounce a word weirdly and will make it long or halfway thru the word my brain gets confused and will replace it with a sound I think it’s supposed to make ex: “im hungry is there food in the fridge?” I’ll say something like “I’m hungry- ……………. I’m “hungryyyyyy isss” there “foop” in the “ridge?” Then someone will say “huh?” I’ll repeat it again without knowing that there is anything wrong and they’ll say “huhh??” Then I’ll stop and try to reword it and then magically they know know I’m saying
Is walking fast and talking fast correlated? (I certainly do both!) (Aslo there's a silent L i both those words, making my sentence above look all pretty.)
wtf i never realized i'm like this too. i type fast af, i write fast af, i never bother to think before speaking, what the hell (though honestly i think i got typing fast from this one server long story)
I love listening to other autistic people speak. There's something about it, I just understand what they're saying. I don't have to think, or wonder what something meant, or what they're trying to point to and the cadence is pleasing. It fits into my brain nicely. I remember being quiet and reserved when I was younger until one day I met a certain person that just made sense to me. We talked for hours one night, seven hours and it was wonderful. I realized then that I'm not stupid or bad at communicating, I just communicate in a different way and there's others like me out there. Every now and then I'll meet somebody like that and I always love being around them.
Just came upon your talk. My oldest child is Autistic. When he was small he constructed whole words using combinations of words that ended up being way more expressive and fun than the appropriate word e.g. spectacliars for spectacles. I, as a parent, tended to give long, many layered and complex answers to the myriad of questions my children plastered all over my life with them. Later I discovered that it was an aid to them to grasp language and develop a rich life in language and communication themselves. By the time they reached middle teens, they were verbally flying and somersaulting around each other and also by then when I launched into my usual long and complex layering of understandings, observations and meanings as answers to their questions, they would stop me with, “thats ok Mam, I get the picture”😂. And before long after that, we were having conversations rather than question and answer sessions. If in the street I saw or heard a small child ask a mother a question and the retort was “shut up” a frequent occurrence, it made me feel very sad for the child. I had by then read that long complex answers to a child, neurodiverse or normie is one of the valuable ways in which as parents we assist our children in the acquisition of language. And although my son could not read at twelve, after six weeks of one to one multi sensory teaching with a specialist teacher his reading rocketed, because he had the language skills already. Today he’s unbeatable when it comes to politics, history, current affairs and has a memory that can’t be bested. His speech flows and people cannot tell that he is autistic yet his idiosyncrasies are all his own, just like the rest of us. So thank you for this, it was illuminating and fun. 😊
The thing that I most notice in myself, (middle aged) and others like me is: excessive apologetic, inclusive corollaries. We have been so beaten down, rejected, and ridiculed by neurotypical society we have learnt to put in "verbal self defence" into how we communicate.
Beginning every sentence with the likes of " I don't mean to be rude, but...", "correct me if I'm wrong, but...". I stopped doing that in my 30's, and went looking for similar people instead. If something sounds offensive in my head, I just don't say it out loud because justifying myself is exhausting... Like, that young girl has beautiful teeth! I just imagined her face if I said it...
I'm an autistic woman in my 50's and linguistics has been one of my lifelong "special interests", so I was thrilled to find your video. I recently asked my husband for some "raw toast". I remember having a meltdown as a child and screaming at my mom about a pin cushion but it came out as "pishion cun". Liked & subbed!
I am silently screaming at this. I have called an elevator the Bing bong machine. A vending machine the poke clickclaclunk, my music thumpabump, and waiting for my coffee to cool "need un-hot bean water"
@@SuperKeithers In Germany (for example) toast-bread is a specific type of bread, since our commonly used bread is not suited for the toaster (because of seeds on it and/or size of the loaf).
Did he give you a normal untoasted piece of bread and is that what you wanted? It would be pretty awesome if that's how you successfully communicate :D
My fave instance of Anomic aphasia I've seen was when my mom could not remember the name for the washroom/bathroom/rest room and also how to communicate "we need to turn around and go home". We were in the car having just left to go somewhere when my mom realized she needed to use the washroom. She was struggling with words until she said "Rewind!". My dad stopped the car and looked at her for clarification and she said "I need to go... I need to go to.. you know the uuuh... THE PEE PLACE!"
My mind is a little blown right now. I never recognized this stuff as being related to autism, I actually find a number of these speech errors familiar, engaging, and easy to understand. Never been diagnosed, don't care about diagnosis, but I'm reflecting now about people I've known and myself differently, so thank you
@@alisonmercer5946 relating to people who speak in these ways always seemed natural and engaging to me, I've taken inspiration from these experiences and am able to speak more loosely and practically now because of it. I relate to words in a less direct way then most people, have a huge vocabulary and used to be overly concerned with choosing the most exact words for things, but have learned to cast thoughts more artfully. When I think I don't think in sentences, but rather in a way I would describe as either meta or sublinguistic, maybe both. So when I produce language whether in speech or writing its sort of like an active effort of translating my thoughts into words instead of just speaking them.
Do not self diagnose...I'm tired of kids like you grabbing onto one or two symptoms even if they're not even related or mean anything and then classify yourself as having X or Y mental illness. Most people who do this don't actually have mental illness, but more likely have internet addiction that causes inattentiveness and other symptoms that easily go away by reducing screen time. But unfortunately, you kids are so glued to your phone that you can't solve this simple fix
.....you talk *exactly* like I do. I. I've never met anyone that does that. The way you construct sentences, the intonation, the analogies, the word choice, the phrasing.....it was so comforting but a little unsettling because I'm so deeoly not used to hearing someone basically complete my mental sentence word for word
Ah man, you need to hang out with people with ADHD. Myself and pretty much everyone in my life talks like this, it just sounds so normal and unremarkable to me
I truly thank you for the immense dedication and understanding that it took to make this video. I myself being someone who now has a traumatic brain injury from an accident, this make so much sense that it's almost dumbfounding. I will say, at first when you mentioned Autism doesn't exist I was confused, but understanding your view and standpoint helped everything. From my own experience, I have felt so out of place because I was not born the way I currently experience things. Most of the people in my life knew my old way of communication, something that use seen as normal but is now foreign. I have no family members that understand the shift of the currently reality I am faced with. Unfortunately many won't understand your message unless they experience it first hand. I think you once again as this video, it helps in ways unimaginable to some
As somebody who has absolutely no significant mathematical capacity but is still autisitic, i loved the idea that metaphor has its origins in some kind of autisitic aphasia. Being really good at understanding metaphors was the primary reason why i thought i wasn't autisitic and it was incredibly validating to encounter a "shout out" of sorts to anyone who has maybe had a similar experiece. A lot of my masking was wrapped up in understanding rhetorical subtext very well and i would hope i can say I'm not alone in this.
Never been diagnosed, but the fact that lying by accident with no control and the lack of social skills to correct it is a thing just gave me a huge sigh of relief. I thought it was just me.
I’m so pleased that RUclips recommended this video to me! Partly because I’m a psychologist and neurodiversity is one of my special interests, but also because your communication style really suits my ADHD brain - you speak at a pleasantly quick pace, and include lots of extra clauses/comments dotted throughout which adds an element of spontaneity and maintains interest. I find it fascinating how neurodivergent people - particularly children, and including undiagnosed folk - are often drawn to each other, and I imagine this difference of communication style (and then, it follows, preference of received style) may play a part in this.
Being a psychology student in university doesn't mean you're a psychologist. 😂 Nothing of what you said is coherent or structured enough to bely anything else...nice try though!
@@tevarinvagabond1192 im able to understand the original comment perfectly well while you complained about being unable to do so. You might wanna give being less unjustifiedly full of yourself a try.
@@toatrika2443 Please read my comment again, because nothing about it said that I didn't understand...rather, that the OP's usage of speech implies that she/he is lying. Again...please improve your reading skills, because they're atrocious (if you're a child I'll give you some slack, perhaps you haven't graduated yet and/or haven't had a full education)
Funnily enough in Spanish we have only the word "dedos" for both toes and fingers so we actually refer to toes as "dedos del pie" which means "foot fingers."
I've only started trying to figure out what's up with me over the past few years but the more I dip into communities of people with ADHD and/or autism, the more I have that exact experience you're describing of going, "Oh! I thought that was just me being a weirdo!"
My parents thought I was a pathological liar for years because they would shout questions at me and I would give them the answer they wanted just to stop the shouting.
Yes! Like once, my father asked me to take a look at the roast chicken he prepared in the oven, asking from the living room :"so, how's the bird?" , and I replied "it's dead" 😂.
I have always spoken super fast. My teacher took off points because she said that I talked too fast and my speech pathologist was explaining to me that you wouldn't speak super fast when you're explaining something to someone. I was like what? That's just how i normally talk. I think that it shouldn't be allowed to take points off for those reasons because I can't really help it.
Gestalt is actually german and means something like the looks of somebody or something material, so this makes sense. You learn by looking at the whole thing
"don't panic, nothing is real" !! i am still laughing at this. i actually remind myself of this every day when my anxiety brain is out on a run around the world & back. also when people get really intense about gender, its just a lot. i like the prosidic section - i didn't know this word. i'm going to look further into that. i think where my peaks come out is different each time i speak & it's not usually where i want them. my brain goes fast too. i did enjoy this video & learning the technical terms. thanks so much, again so well done. thanks for being
I clicked on this video, and my attention span has not once left. I actually enjoyed your speaking pace, and find that most RUclipsrs and people tend to speak too slow for me.
I do the fast-talking! Oh, and I often go non-verbal. Now, I grew up totally undiagnosed, so I always considered it to be shyness, not feeling like putting the energy into speaking, or valuing thought over speech.
Yay!! I've been embracing my own wackiness as an autistic person in the last year or so. My speech patterns and directness in subject matter are turned up to ELEVEN most of the time! When you were talking about Doug the dog from the movie UP, I laughed, because I absolutely love talking like Doug! Simple, honest, exuberant, and direct. "I am your DOG and I LOVE you!" Fortunately, people in my life mostly get it.
One of the things your video makes me think of is the dearth of literature involving autism in adulthood and how autistics process various human interactions as children versus as adults. Specifically, it makes me think that it looks like you are making this your career so that when Gen A scholars, educators, and infotainers explain these things they will be referencing your books among their other sources. Thank you for doing this. It makes me happy.
Learning about gestalt language processing is interesting because I've noticed the process very clearly while learning new languages. When I listen to media (mainly music) in those languages, I've always remembered things in small chunks--interesting phrases or sentences--and been able to remember those chunks & their meanings far before I can really break them down into their components. Then at some point I start to identify components common to a few of them and either look up or guess at the meaning.
Unreliable speech. Lol I just thought that was me panic masking because I wasn't fast enough to construct the actual thing I wanted to say and just went with whatever popped in my head first to avoid the awkward.
I've been told that I sound like a text to speech program when I talk, whenever someone says that, it really bothers me. I've also been asked if I use recreational drugs. I tried over the years to develop a normal speaking style, and I ended up with something that sounds almost like I'm perpetually reading someone a bedtime story.
I was once told in high school that I sounded like one of those tannoid voices you hear telling you which train is going from which platform at a station. The whole class was like "oh yeah!!" That was 11 years ago and I still feel off about it haha
Yes, I understand, I have a bad habit of either sounding like I'm their therapist or like I'm in a movie acting (or I'm just repeating the way someone in a video/movie said something). No wonder all this masking causes social exhaustion so quickly!
So interesting. The prosody thing - I'm often asked whether English is my second language or where I'm from. When I say Indiana, they say, no where are you *originally from* and seem incredulous when I say I was born in the U.S. to parents who were also born here.
I've had a cashier ask me if I was a foreigner once in my own country, presumably because of my speech patterns. In her defence this was in a city whose most distinctive feature is a university which sees the odd international student
I just sorta lie and say that I spent a lot of time with my grandma when I was young, who was from [insert made up town name in England], and that made me talk kinda like her. Which isn't technically untrue, she was English, but the only things that really caused me to say that aren't common in America are how I accent the word "aluminum" and the fact that I say "innit" sometimes
I finally started telling those who asked that I grew up watching PBS and BBC. I grew up in Texas. I can make myself sound Texan (I'm good with accents) but I just don't naturally sound like I'm from there.
Do you ever catch yourself thinking 5 things at once and all of them sound better in your head than the often hilarious things that concurrently jumble their way out of your mouth 😂
the "feeling like your brain is constipated" thing is constant for me and it's so annoying!! there are so many thoughts in my head but I just can't verbalize them, I don't know the right words, and if I try to explain, the person listening would just misunderstand. I also can't speak when I'm too overwhelmed or in a sensory overload, it's too exhausting
You don't even have to start talking about the patterns for me to realize that we talk so much alike. The pace, the corners you round etc. I never understand why my partner sometimes has problems following me in a conversation and then I get this mirror and am like oh yeah haha. Eventhough I don't have that problem with you it is pretty stimulating^^
Yeah, I kept waiting for the part of the video where her speech patterns were going to be "odd" in some way because she kept mentioning herself as an example and, instead, I was confused because it all just sounded like natural and normal conversation to me. I came into the video wondering if I would recognize any of her speech patterns in myself (as I've been on a journey for the past couple of years to figure out why my executive functioning is so wack) but, though I didn't realize it at first, I guess my confusion at not finding anything out of the ordinary in the way she spoke was kind of an answer to my question.
I got called by a scammer trying to convince me they were from Microsoft and my computer had a critical virus and I was so irritated all I could do was sort of... screech. Normally I'd feel a little bad at screeching at someone out of the blue, but not this time! On work conference calls I do periodically have to stop mid-sentence because I'm getting verbally jumbled (cluttering, stuttering, dysnomia, anomia, prosidy problems, just a bucket of quirks), and just start it again from scratch.
oh this could explain why my language and writing abilities are quite strong, but when learning a new language (with a monolingual upbringing) was SOO difficult. genuinely an entirely different mental exercise. constructing grammar and sentence structure for a new-to-you language based on various independent rules is much more analytical. the shout out to anne of green gables style writing & speaking made me scream. i was truly so ~found by those books lmao
This is one of the first talking videos that I haven't been able to run at 1.75x or 2x because you're actually talking fast enough to listen to already
I like the way you talk. I get it. I was genuinely confused when you said its an autistic speech pattern. The interjections and idea mixing is very comfy.
I’m currently obsessed with the speech patterns of the incredible speaking parrot Gizmo the Grey The way she strings words into sentences is to me quite remarkable coz it’s very similar to the random sentences I hear coming from water or wind or traffic noises or tea kettles you name it sort of like the incredibly complex information coming in schizophrenic speak I’ve got a list of things she says that repeat in my head and I just have to say out loud giving me endless joy atm
Hearing the phrase " You perceive the whole rather than the sum of its parts" kind of hit me hard. Whenever i have subtitles/CC on (or read a book); I read the words as soon as I see them. Which I was surprised to hear is not how most people read. Edit: I am self-diagnosed ASC & ADH & in my late 30s.
12:00 I watch videos at 1.5 to 2x speed almost exclusively but I didn’t change the speed on this video and I thought it was strange that I didn’t feel like changing it until I got to this part where it made sense.
Fascinating video. Applause to the algorithm for recommending it to me. This is a fantastic info-dump, and helps me recognize and name the patterns of speech that myself and my neurodiverse family display. Looking forward to checking out your music.
Video: "Another very autistic example is using lines from a movie, for example, as a form of communication" Me, exactly replicating that Vine from like 2015: "haha I do that"
The "you" thing explains a lot that is referring to myself as "you" when speaking. Some mindfulness groups really emphasize "speak from your own experience" and I've found myself reminded of that because I kept saying "you" when I really meant I/me. I've worked really hard to get out of that habit.
Wow, you've made me realize that I also do this. It often happens anytime I'm trying to explain the sequence of actions within a narrative, an example being "you'd get drunk, immediately regret it, you'd feel horrible and then you'd pass out." which sounds like I'm talking about YOU but in reality I'm talking about myself. I've done this for years. Which means I do this verbally as well, which is harder to catch myself doing. Ugh.
@@tigristhelynx7224Around middle school a friend of mine made fun of Ozzy Osbourne referring to himself in third person on a talk show like "Ozzy likes..." and I felt weirdly hurt by that and didn't understand why as I wasn't a fan. I suppose I was self conscious that I recognized that I had an atypical speech style myself.
@@tigristhelynx7224 A *lot* of people do this. Often people start talking (or writing) using "I" and switch to "you" partway through. I always marvel at how pervasive this seems to be. 😊
Actually love the speed at which you speak. I just finished another of your videos and if asked how long they were without looking I'd have guesstimated them both 50% shorter. Like clown cars, RUclips videos are simply more engaging the more you manage to pack into them
You're passion for this subject really shines through in this video! Thank for the insight! This info is invaluable for us teachers who need to communicate with all students, not just student considered "neurotypical"
Years ago, I briefly entertained the possibility I was on the spectrum, but discounted it out of hand. Now, however, I'm finding a wealth of sources describing so many of the things I've experienced and... I just honestly don't know what to do with this information. There are times when my mind is going so much faster than my mouth, and I just start combining words into strange agglutinations. Sometimes speech comes slowly and stilted; I think of it like a mountain range, and I'm scaling each individual word, finding my way over, around and through them. Sometimes even the simplest words disappear from my mind. And there are times I simply can't say anything at all. I'm also recognizing now that, in childhood, I'd take on the voice of a character, and this sometimes helped me express myself more clearly. Moreover, I once had someone make fun of my flat intonation and affect, and I made a huge effort to incorporate greater pitch and range and expression. I'm not entirely convinced I AM on the spectrum, but there seem to be more and more signs pointing in that direction. And I guess it helps. It's good to know that I'm not broken, just wired differently.
I am the opposite and need to slow down the speed of videos to process what people are saying. Even rewinding and re-watching parts to understand what is being said, which can frustrate people when I am watching something with others. I tend to show more facial expressions and voice tones when I have a script in my head or know the answer to a question but if I have to think about my answer or what I want to say I struggle to do this. The struggle to put what I want to say into words is a big issue for me and very frustrating to the point I am often misunderstood and the other person has moved on to something else before I can re-word what I was trying to say. This is most likely why I hate phone calls because It doesn't matter how much I write a script before hand, if an unexpected issue comes up I struggle to put into words something to get conversation back on track to get what I needed from the phone call. At least in person It gives me more time to correct what I was trying to say even if it is awkward and embarrassing.
6:08 there’s a bird singing in the background that I fixated on and re-listened to about a dozen times. I don’t think that’s related to the video. It just made me happy
Christ that was intense . Well done. I find turning an idea into a liniar linguistic stream such an effort, I need a buffering tattoo on my face. So people dont presume I'm finished. Im just editing chunks of sentences to fit together , concisely and efficiently , removing erm just chunks,and trying to hold down the original idea in ram .
Man that's so annoying .... I haven't finished constructing what I'm trying to say but they take the first part and run with it and the conversation has gone way off course before I can start to explain the rest of my thinking. At that point I just give up and go along with it because it's too much effort because people don't seem to like to circle back in conversations. Another reason to avoid trying to have conversations with allists.
Got a couple for ya. I keep forgetting what air fryers are called, so been referring to it as the hotbox. My son (also autistic) called the ceiling fan a whirly-phoom once, and we all kind of decided that's what they are now.
Well, I didn't think I'd finally figure out why I talk how I talk and why. I have Cluttering, I used to speak faster than someone with adhd. And the only way I could get over it is if I lower my tone of voice and carefully focus on each syllable. It's not perfect and I'll slowly ramp-up my speech if I don't notice it. Semantic paraphasia is another I deal with and it's gotten better over time but it still really gets to me. And the most important one, insufficient speech. It's got a whole lot better as I've grown up. But I'd describe it as having emotions that for the life of you can't find words for, opting to instead draw desperately what you want to have spoken. I actually forget words, whole words, words I use everyday. And can't even give a vague idea of what I want to say because the word IS the idea I want said. And any other word that might better fit or another word that works just as well will never come to me, my brain in that moment just has a hole. I actually speech foreign languages better than my native language sometimes and I don't know why. As a quick side note: because of my "insufficient speech" I'm really good at making moppet like actions with my hands. I think it's cutely funny as I do it subconsciously, so I can be in a serious meeting and talking as proper as I can and my hands will still jazz around like everything is normal.
Hi. Can autistic people speak childlike? I'm autistic and my mom says that I need to speak more adultlike because of my age, she thinks I sound childish
Same here. I've had a childlike voice my whole life and some people are "shocked" that I still sound so childlike. Anyway from what I've seen the answer to your question is yes
It's possible, the question is to what extent you want to deal with the consequences of that versus the consequences of masking. I wish there were a good answer, but over the long term, the more people that just speak like themselves with the main focus being communication, the sooner this kind of silly advice won't be given.
I love that you talk in nested brackets (this is also how I talk especially when I am talking to other autistic people [I love talking to autistic people and your video goes some way to explain why]) getting out of breath resets the bracketing
Your comment about the metaphors legitimately and literally made my day. I love it. Also, I get great humor out of the fact I noted how I didn’t need to speed your video, as I do with many others. Thank you so very much- new sub!
This type of situation got awkward for me when I was speaking to a colleague and tried to end a sentence with "yeah so that's it, basically" but I contracted the word "basically" (with a bit of "probably" mixed in) and it sounded like "baby". So I just said "yeah so that's it, baby" to my coworker.
@@OhSoUnicornly my daughter says things that aren’t generally recognizable unless you have heard her say it before. She has a few regular phrases. If she wants more sausage for breakfast she says, “unt sausagain” for “I want sausage again” and if she doesn’t want to use the public toilets (usually because they have automatic flush) She says “po-home” for “potty at home” meaning “I want to go potty at home instead” (and she says these very quickly).
I missed some of the names of the different things because I was so fascinated listening to you talk. Your speech sounds so much like mine when I'm excited. Especially those teeny tiny pauses after words. When I'm anxious I have a lot of pauses and hesitations between words and a hard time finding the words I want and a hard time getting words to come out.
How is it possible that I've had my diagnosis for over 10 years, and this is the first time I've heard that accdentall lying and made up words are just natural for someone like me 🤣 Really great video ✨️
Wall water=fountain, seizure trees=sun filtering through trees as you drive by making a flashing effect, cat paper=Scotts toilet paper. I have more, just can’t think of them while listening to the video.
I've started speeding up youtube videos to 1.25 or 1.5 but the speed you're talking as it perfect for me, I realised this when you mentioned it and looked down to see if I sped it up but nope!
I'm an aspie and a linguistic major, and yet I've never heard of gestallt language development, but it makes SO much sense looking back over my life and the way I think of languages. That's literally entirely how I learnt Spanish as an adult. Like it's the only method I learned and I didn't even realize it until you explained it. I learned songs and song lyrics, and especially stuff they say over and over again.
My dad (innocently) laughed at me when it started raining and i happened to say "the rain has begun." I guess normal people would just say "it's raining." Lol
Just stumbled on this video and based on how fluent you seemed to me, as in, very recognizably similar to my own patterns, I think I've just learned something about how I speak that I'd never even begun to realize.
I jusr discovered your channel, in much the same way a 15th century European explorer discovers an inhabited continent. 😁 I really appreciated all your research and the presentation of the information. Best of all you have just improved my life immensely by reminding me of the long forgotten fact that I can watch videos at >1x speeds. I often get bored with many videos as my brain wants things to come in quicker. Now I am sorted, and you have a new subscriber. 😁😁
I have the same problem when I click on a link for what looks like an interesting article, but instead it's a video and they're talking so slow that I could easily have read the entire script before they finish the first sentence.
I love this feature and use it all the time (1.5x) - a quicker way to gather the data in video without getting bored, plus saves time. You can also adjust speeds on audio books or textbooks with audio features! Plus, probably easier processing the information for my ADD brain!
I was sent this by my father due to being a huge linguist enthusiast and immediately I found you to be so relatable with the way you speak. It was comforting listening to someone who also has distracted thoughts appear in the middle of a sentence and then go back to the topic at hand like it never happened. So many people look at me strange when I am “rambling” as they put it but it’s just how my brain works. I have liked and subscribed and look forward to seeing more videos from you. Thank you for putting this out and not over editing to make things more seamless. The realness is appreciated ❤
As someone that has thereotically perfect 20 20 vision but fail to identify objects practically in front of them unless given a colour to go with, I really appreciate you describing yourself and the room you are in ❤
UNRELIABLE SPEECH EXPLAINS SO MUCH HOLY SHIT Like, my friends know damn well that if I say a sentence in auto-pilot mode, I’m more than likely bullshitting. But like, I don’t mean to! I sometimes don’t even realize what happened! I’M JUST SAYING WHAT MY INSTINCTS TELL ME TO SAY!!
First video here! I'm sure I'll watch more. I loved the information and your delivery. Your last name is really cool too; I've never seen that before. Oh and my favorite dance-around-the-misplaced-word phrase I've done lately is "the metal fire bread box". I've had geese and "honk honk dog" is a 10/10, perfect substitute.
Ahhhhh this is the first video of yours I've seen and man I'm a bit caught off guard by how refreshing your voice / pattern of speech is. You talk like I do!! It's so easy to understand what you're saying.
I don't know that much about this, but i've heard mentions before of how autistic people might have an actual different accent than what they're expected to have. i did not grow up speaking with the same accent as the people around me (Norwegian, so country full of different accents) I spoke somewhat more like what would be on tv, than my parents, friends, school etc. i've even gotten questions of when i moved here, despite living basically at the same place my whole life. i just find this kind of interesting.
I'm Australian and I've been asked before if I'm American or grew up there, just because I adopted some inflections from watching cartoons a lot. My best friend is the same but it his accent is way more obvious
16:41 Speech patterns like a mother speaking to a child. O.M.G. I have a theory for why this happens. Mimicry. When it's hard to develop one's own "natural" way of speaking, the way to do the speaking thing is to imitate the speaking thing that I experienced. I heard the way my mother spoke to me as a child, and so I spoke like that. Like a mother speaking to a child. Damn. This makes sense of so much for me. At least, it makes sense to me.
At the risk of having you base a slight part of your self-worth on my comment, which, obviously, no one should ever do: YOU'RE SO AWESOME! I loved this video and ten minutes in I already learned more about autistic speech patterns than I had until now. I loved it! Thank you for putting your work out there and sharing your research (of research, lol) with others. Very helpful! P.s. love the 'autism just a label' thing. I see it that way too: neurodivergence is a minority as compared to neurotypical which has resulted in less understanding, accomodation and celebration of what it has to offer, when really, it offers the world so much! There's no better (of course there is: neurodivergent); there's only different. We should value both and help each other where differences cause miscommunications or issues.
I experience the sporadic mutism, stuttering, referring to myself in the third person, and messing up words the most. I find myself changing the consonants in words often. I also have difficulty with prosity, speaking in a sing-song voice and not regulating or standardizing my pitch or volume.
Oh my goodness! The one where you forget your word and can't say what you want to is so real! I've joked for years that "forgot my English and don't have a language to replace it with". Also, the one where you just don't have any words to say what you want to at all; where it feels as though there aren't actually words for it. Glad to know these are real things and I'm not just dumb. lol
When on ADHD meds, the speech blockages occur very alien and annoying; when off said drugs for a few days, the speech patterns return to my regular verbal diarrhoea. Though awareness of this means all who know their issues, tiring regulation and reading the listener to know when you've lost them. I spend way more time now listening and trying to restrict an answer to the question with the 'Apple advanced button theory' of pressing this button for a more detailed explanation, which comes out as 'this is my area of research and its complicated' then I'll give a broad basic answer, knowing if the listener wants to learn more. They can ask; if not, they won't feel that I would be offended, a mutual 'let's not go there '.
Many languages use pitch to convey meaning. Chinese, for example, has at least 4 tones (in Mandarin). So the Chinese word “ma” has 4 different meanings based on the actual tone (pitch of the word, rising, falling, monotonic, etc.) . Based on what you just said about pitch issues in autistic speech, I wonder if there are differences in how autistic Chinese people communicate versus how autistic people in non-tonal languages (like English) communicate.
I~ ... don't kno~w ... if I'm autistic. ... I've known it is a possibility for awhil~e but never got checked ... ... I often formulate what I'm going to say before I say it ... But will sometimes have a bit of a trail~ ... whil~e I think about the next part I'm not a fast (or frequent) talker. But, sometimes ... my brain goes faster than my mouth can keep up and I stumble on a word and then have to reset my mouth and enueaf;shfai ... nyeh ... e-nun-ci-ate said word before I can continue It's kinda fun trying to emulate my speech pattern in text. I have been told that I'm kinda robotic/monotone before. And, I'm usually pretty blunt.
thanks so much for this video. I'm constantly still learning about my own autism and this video really helped me to understand myself better. To understand why i say things in a certain way or why I'm not able to express myself "normally" in other ways. I genuinely feel better about myself as a person after watching this.
I think you just helped me realize what I meant when I was telling people I was learning stuff by understanding the "logic" and "reasons" behind it, and that I didn't need a dictionary for french lessons because I understood the rules of what letters made sense depending on their sounds (i'm from quebec, and remembered talking about this in high school). I've been thinking of being on the autism spectrum for a while with how I need to write down manually everything in a notebook whether it's creative or professionnal), but adding all of this just blown my mind. Thank you for this. I understand why I was writing the way I did. That is... huge!
I absolutely love the "go place box vroom vroom". Such kennings are also often to be found in certain sociolects. For example, I know an old Russian prison song whose protagonist arrives at his detention place "jingling like a Gipsy full of bracelets", referring to his shackles. And here in Austria, the slang expression for "being arrested" is "getting the 8", which I find particularly interesting as it directly refers to the shape of that cipher.
I never knew "insufficient speech" was something that actually existed outside of my own personal experience. I've really struggled with it as far back as I can remember, getting what's inside out there in a manner that's easy to parse feels anywhere from difficult to impossible because my thoughts are all so interconnected and occur all at once and I feel like I have to lay a foundation and carefully construct the pathway for the recipient to hopefully understand, even when it comes to writing/texting, sometimes especially when it comes to writing/texting (yes, even now), to the point where I will shutdown outside even though everything's going full-bore inside, its among the most frustrating things I deal with and it's f*cking exhausting.
When you got to cluttering I immediately went "yes - yes - YES!" because that's a perfect description of what I do all the time! Also I didn't notice anything unusual in the way you talk (not even the speed until you mentioned it), so I guess that's because I talk the same way lol
This is a great video especially learning about gestalt language processing! And gives me a lot more confidence in how I process my thoughts and language.
I definitely do the phonemic paraphasia thing. One example I started a few months ago is singing the hippopotamus for Christmas song as “I want a pippohotamus for Christmas.”
@@swagmundfreud666 That's a black culture thing. But this is an autistic thing. Do you not understand that she describes what I was talking about as an autistic idiosyncratic speech pattern in the video. I'm autistic so what is your point?
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I'm legally blind and wanted to say I really appreciate you describing what you look like. Love the pigtails. Also loved the video
I've not seen one single video where this was done. How lovely!!
Ive seen this done on zoom calls and always thought it was odd… but when being told why I thought it was amazing…. we often don’t think of these things because they don’t effect us…. we really need to consider others and do what we can to make their experience and life more accessible so we’re on a more level playing field… everyone deserves the same life experiences and entertainment…your comment helps others see that this is something that is helpful and yes people do benefit from this….
Sorry to hear dude, hope your doing well.
How did you type this comment? Serious question
She failed to say she looks amazing with the curls.
The whole "losing the ability to speak when overwhelmed or exhausted" thing directly happened to me just last night when my ex cornered me for a "discussion" when I was trying to go to bed...
Several times I was trying to push words out and got stuck on "I..I..I..I..I.."
Doesn't sound like a nice time to be cornered for a discussion. If u r anything like me u were probably going to bed because otherwise u would have fallen down from exhaustion
It surprised me a bit that so many people who have a hard time getting their words out describe it like that. I'd always felt like I had this wall that was between my tongue and my words and over time I got better at pushing them through the wall and out the mouth, but it tends to lead to the words being blurted out even though it's exactly what I intended to say and normally I would just say it. As opposed to blurting things out because you're trying not to say them at all.
My now ex would deliberately torment me until I was running words together. He enjoyed getting a reaction from me and exasperating me. He complained about my monotone voice, would force me to do prolonged eye contact...ugh
@@recoveringsoul755 That cruel intent hurts and enrages me exponentially more than the actions themselves, and it always has. Did you get the "cute when you're angry" shtick or the "I'm just trying to help you be better" line? Or both? I've gotten both. Either way, it's just a bully exerting control and I'm glad you got away from that.
@@HobGungan I didn't know I was autistic then. Or that he is likely a narcissist or worse
I'm noticing that your sentences often have nested clauses within clauses, digressions and explanations. It's very complicated and enjoyable to hear. I feel like I do the same thing and am constantly worried that most people won't be able to follow where my sentences are going and will miss my point.
You’d be surprised that people actually follow those tangents well, the trouble comes from tripping yourself up and forgetting where you were, what you said, or even forgetting the entire story for a moment - then they remind you the part just before what you said, and then you keep going with it - albeit a little more stressed out because you just spent 3 minutes setting up a point, and now you have completely forgotten, wasting 6 minutes in total between two people
@@flavourruling2162 I know that one. The other thing I've been noticing more about myself lately is that I just have no idea how to end a conversation. I usually just realize everything necessary has been said and quietly drift away. I feel like most people have a better idea of the beginnings and endings of interactions.
You should start learning German. Oh, the possibilities!
In some German books I've encountered sentences that wound on for more than a whole page.
This is 100% how I think and I talk. I often try to tone it down especially for people who don't know me very well. But it's very rewarding when people can follow me, and I find people who communicate the same way.
This is the first video I've seen from Sydney and it's very refreshing!
I don't find that enjoyable
I have a bad habit of doing the "explaining around" thing but with entire stories. Instead of going "start, middle, end", I'll be like "start, unrelated character background story, the weather in that place last year, the political machinations of it's leaders, end". The peices all end up tying together in a way that (I think) creates a more impactful story, but people will often tune out before I get to the end. I've learnt as a result to preface what I'm doing - "So I'm going to tell a story, but I want to give it some context first."
That sounds a little like an ADHD trait to me! And a lot like a ME trait!
I feel I have to OVERexplain everything. In the case of explaining to someone an event that occurred, which often includes myself, I will over explain so much that it sounds as if I’m defending myself, someone else, or some thing involved. Aaaannnddd, I probably AM doing just that!
I have unresolved childhood trauma plus ADHD, whose traits overlap A LOT (particularly in women, and there’s evidence that chronic childhood trauma can “cause adhd”, but that topic is for another novel-length comment, for another day 😅), and they can often involve a lot of inherent shame. Inevitably, when you feel ashamed (most likely unnecessarily) or as though someone is shaming or judging you, you very naturally attempt to defend yourself! Childhood trauma can cause your brain (your mis-wired, abnormally developed brain) to jump into “explain and defend mode” as a means of protecting yourself from real, incoming danger (when you were in that time and place). Sad, but very, very true.
I have an emotionally abusive father, who has (in the case of a disappointing or adverse event) always immediately placed blame on me and berated me without understanding what the actual circumstances were or why I made the decision to do what I did, to give a broad, sort of example. Therefore, I always attempted to defend myself and explain why/how I made the best decision available.
Also, with ADHD, it’s just easy to get distracted with and wrapped up in details and, as a result, over talk when storytelling. As in adhd life, in adhd storytelling, details and side quests are of utmost importance!! 😂
To conclude, it really brings to my attention how closely-related many different types of neurodivergent conditions actually are. I understand there are many co-morbities, but this could actually explain the theory that neurodivergence is neurodivergence is neurodivergence, but definitely on a spectrum! And as for chronic childhood trauma, I believe the brain has developed and has been wired differently, therefore causing many of the traits associated with neurodivergence…….which is brains developing and being wired differently! Catch my drift?? 😂
Thats adhd
Same and I’m audhd
I don't know that I'm autistic, but some of these speech patterns are very familiar to me. Namely, forgetting basic words and substituting them with non-word sounds. What's incredible to me is how often people can still understand what I mean. Like, I'll be working on something and need a certain tool and be like "hey can you pass me the... herbadeberp" and the guy i'm working with just goes and grabs the right tool for me.
Legitimately, I imitate the dingbang of whatever the tool does, and somehow I am understood. Blows my mind
Humans are very sympathetic, I don't think I am autistic at all, but something I notice a lot is that when I struggle with remembering a specific word, others will struggle too when I ask "whats that word when such-and-such happens" when I suspect if i just plainly asked them they would quickly find it. We both have the word in the backs of our mind now. Have you experienced this?
Or rather, if they had at that same instance wanted to use that word it would have been no problem. But because they are tuned into you it takes them a minute to recall that word
@@odinentertainment1079 oh yeah, been there many times. I'm not sure if it's more a sympathetic response or the brain being suddenly asked to recall a specific word when not in speach mode, but 100% i've had that many times
Maybe it's because they see what you're doing and know what tool you need for it?
i heavily relate to the cluttering. as an autist i've always felt that my brain moves faster than my body does, in that i speak very quickly (cluttering), write too quickly (whoops i have dysgraphia), and walk very quickly.
Me too!!
*as a defective
I clutter a lot and will stop mid sentence and my brain will go blank, i will also sometimes confuse words and say a word that sounds similar to the word I was trying to say a lot or will pronounce a word weirdly and will make it long or halfway thru the word my brain gets confused and will replace it with a sound I think it’s supposed to make ex: “im hungry is there food in the fridge?” I’ll say something like “I’m hungry- ……………. I’m “hungryyyyyy isss” there “foop” in the “ridge?” Then someone will say “huh?” I’ll repeat it again without knowing that there is anything wrong and they’ll say “huhh??” Then I’ll stop and try to reword it and then magically they know know I’m saying
Is walking fast and talking fast correlated? (I certainly do both!)
(Aslo there's a silent L i both those words, making my sentence above look all pretty.)
wtf i never realized i'm like this too. i type fast af, i write fast af, i never bother to think before speaking, what the hell (though honestly i think i got typing fast from this one server long story)
I love listening to other autistic people speak. There's something about it, I just understand what they're saying. I don't have to think, or wonder what something meant, or what they're trying to point to and the cadence is pleasing. It fits into my brain nicely. I remember being quiet and reserved when I was younger until one day I met a certain person that just made sense to me. We talked for hours one night, seven hours and it was wonderful. I realized then that I'm not stupid or bad at communicating, I just communicate in a different way and there's others like me out there. Every now and then I'll meet somebody like that and I always love being around them.
Same!
Just came upon your talk. My oldest child is Autistic. When he was small he constructed whole words using combinations of words that ended up being way more expressive and fun than the appropriate word e.g. spectacliars for spectacles. I, as a parent, tended to give long, many layered and complex answers to the myriad of questions my children plastered all over my life with them. Later I discovered that it was an aid to them to grasp language and develop a rich life in language and communication themselves. By the time they reached middle teens, they were verbally flying and somersaulting around each other and also by then when I launched into my usual long and complex layering of understandings, observations and meanings as answers to their questions, they would stop me with, “thats ok Mam, I get the picture”😂. And before long after that, we were having conversations rather than question and answer sessions. If in the street I saw or heard a small child ask a mother a question and the retort was “shut up” a frequent occurrence, it made me feel very sad for the child. I had by then read that long complex answers to a child, neurodiverse or normie is one of the valuable ways in which as parents we assist our children in the acquisition of language. And although my son could not read at twelve, after six weeks of one to one multi sensory teaching with a specialist teacher his reading rocketed, because he had the language skills already. Today he’s unbeatable when it comes to politics, history, current affairs and has a memory that can’t be bested. His speech flows and people cannot tell that he is autistic yet his idiosyncrasies are all his own, just like the rest of us. So thank you for this, it was illuminating and fun. 😊
The thing that I most notice in myself, (middle aged) and others like me is: excessive apologetic, inclusive corollaries. We have been so beaten down, rejected, and ridiculed by neurotypical society we have learnt to put in "verbal self defence" into how we communicate.
Beginning every sentence with the likes of " I don't mean to be rude, but...", "correct me if I'm wrong, but...".
I stopped doing that in my 30's, and went looking for similar people instead. If something sounds offensive in my head, I just don't say it out loud because justifying myself is exhausting... Like, that young girl has beautiful teeth! I just imagined her face if I said it...
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I'm an autistic woman in my 50's and linguistics has been one of my lifelong "special interests", so I was thrilled to find your video. I recently asked my husband for some "raw toast". I remember having a meltdown as a child and screaming at my mom about a pin cushion but it came out as "pishion cun". Liked & subbed!
I am silently screaming at this. I have called an elevator the Bing bong machine. A vending machine the poke clickclaclunk, my music thumpabump, and waiting for my coffee to cool "need un-hot bean water"
@@ItsJustAdrean NEED UN-HOT BEAN WATER
is raw toast just bread?
@@SuperKeithers In Germany (for example) toast-bread is a specific type of bread, since our commonly used bread is not suited for the toaster (because of seeds on it and/or size of the loaf).
Did he give you a normal untoasted piece of bread and is that what you wanted? It would be pretty awesome if that's how you successfully communicate :D
My fave instance of Anomic aphasia I've seen was when my mom could not remember the name for the washroom/bathroom/rest room and also how to communicate "we need to turn around and go home". We were in the car having just left to go somewhere when my mom realized she needed to use the washroom. She was struggling with words until she said "Rewind!". My dad stopped the car and looked at her for clarification and she said "I need to go... I need to go to.. you know the uuuh... THE PEE PLACE!"
I'm so glad I'm not alone in this!
"rewind! i need to go to the pee place!" is an iconic phrase haha
My mind is a little blown right now. I never recognized this stuff as being related to autism, I actually find a number of these speech errors familiar, engaging, and easy to understand. Never been diagnosed, don't care about diagnosis, but I'm reflecting now about people I've known and myself differently, so thank you
Me too. Exactly what I'm like
And there were times when I literally couldn't speak when I was younger I though it was shyness maybe it is but I just could not speak
@@alisonmercer5946 relating to people who speak in these ways always seemed natural and engaging to me, I've taken inspiration from these experiences and am able to speak more loosely and practically now because of it. I relate to words in a less direct way then most people, have a huge vocabulary and used to be overly concerned with choosing the most exact words for things, but have learned to cast thoughts more artfully.
When I think I don't think in sentences, but rather in a way I would describe as either meta or sublinguistic, maybe both. So when I produce language whether in speech or writing its sort of like an active effort of translating my thoughts into words instead of just speaking them.
Do not self diagnose...I'm tired of kids like you grabbing onto one or two symptoms even if they're not even related or mean anything and then classify yourself as having X or Y mental illness. Most people who do this don't actually have mental illness, but more likely have internet addiction that causes inattentiveness and other symptoms that easily go away by reducing screen time. But unfortunately, you kids are so glued to your phone that you can't solve this simple fix
@@InvertedInsideout there is a voice in my head but it goes too fast. Wish it would slow down at least lol
.....you talk *exactly* like I do. I. I've never met anyone that does that. The way you construct sentences, the intonation, the analogies, the word choice, the phrasing.....it was so comforting but a little unsettling because I'm so deeoly not used to hearing someone basically complete my mental sentence word for word
My son does this....except faster.
Ah man, you need to hang out with people with ADHD. Myself and pretty much everyone in my life talks like this, it just sounds so normal and unremarkable to me
@@rafferon3439 Yeah I'm AuDHD but most of my friends are one or the other and none of them speak quite like this so it was super nice to hear!
@@vforvalorant1019same
I truly thank you for the immense dedication and understanding that it took to make this video. I myself being someone who now has a traumatic brain injury from an accident, this make so much sense that it's almost dumbfounding. I will say, at first when you mentioned Autism doesn't exist I was confused, but understanding your view and standpoint helped everything. From my own experience, I have felt so out of place because I was not born the way I currently experience things. Most of the people in my life knew my old way of communication, something that use seen as normal but is now foreign. I have no family members that understand the shift of the currently reality I am faced with. Unfortunately many won't understand your message unless they experience it first hand. I think you once again as this video, it helps in ways unimaginable to some
As somebody who has absolutely no significant mathematical capacity but is still autisitic, i loved the idea that metaphor has its origins in some kind of autisitic aphasia. Being really good at understanding metaphors was the primary reason why i thought i wasn't autisitic and it was incredibly validating to encounter a "shout out" of sorts to anyone who has maybe had a similar experiece. A lot of my masking was wrapped up in understanding rhetorical subtext very well and i would hope i can say I'm not alone in this.
sydney i love the curly pigtails
Thank you babe they felt very Liesel Meminger but like she needs a beret
@@disabled.autistic.lesbian You'd look great in a beret!
Me who clicked on the video partly because of the pigtails
Oh a beret would be pretty
Never been diagnosed, but the fact that lying by accident with no control and the lack of social skills to correct it is a thing just gave me a huge sigh of relief. I thought it was just me.
I’m so pleased that RUclips recommended this video to me! Partly because I’m a psychologist and neurodiversity is one of my special interests, but also because your communication style really suits my ADHD brain - you speak at a pleasantly quick pace, and include lots of extra clauses/comments dotted throughout which adds an element of spontaneity and maintains interest.
I find it fascinating how neurodivergent people - particularly children, and including undiagnosed folk - are often drawn to each other, and I imagine this difference of communication style (and then, it follows, preference of received style) may play a part in this.
Being a psychology student in university doesn't mean you're a psychologist. 😂 Nothing of what you said is coherent or structured enough to bely anything else...nice try though!
@@tevarinvagabond1192that sounds like a skill issue on your end
@@toatrika2443 Yeah, your reading comprehension skills need some work kiddo
@@tevarinvagabond1192 im able to understand the original comment perfectly well while you complained about being unable to do so.
You might wanna give being less unjustifiedly full of yourself a try.
@@toatrika2443 Please read my comment again, because nothing about it said that I didn't understand...rather, that the OP's usage of speech implies that she/he is lying. Again...please improve your reading skills, because they're atrocious (if you're a child I'll give you some slack, perhaps you haven't graduated yet and/or haven't had a full education)
My friend called her toes “foot fingers “ and I love 💕 her even more now!
Funnily enough in Spanish we have only the word "dedos" for both toes and fingers so we actually refer to toes as "dedos del pie" which means "foot fingers."
I always loved how in German gloves are called "hand shoes".
@@drewzero1 no wonder I loved studying German as a kid, it tickled my autistic brain in a way I totally got!
It is the same word in Russian and Spanish, so I understand perfectly
Foot fingers are also used in greek😊
The whole answering someone’s question wrong is SOOO relatable! I thought my whole life it was just me and I was a freak for doing this.
I've only started trying to figure out what's up with me over the past few years but the more I dip into communities of people with ADHD and/or autism, the more I have that exact experience you're describing of going, "Oh! I thought that was just me being a weirdo!"
My parents thought I was a pathological liar for years because they would shout questions at me and I would give them the answer they wanted just to stop the shouting.
Yes! Like once, my father asked me to take a look at the roast chicken he prepared in the oven, asking from the living room :"so, how's the bird?" , and I replied "it's dead" 😂.
I have always spoken super fast. My teacher took off points because she said that I talked too fast and my speech pathologist was explaining to me that you wouldn't speak super fast when you're explaining something to someone. I was like what? That's just how i normally talk. I think that it shouldn't be allowed to take points off for those reasons because I can't really help it.
Gestalt is actually german and means something like the looks of somebody or something material, so this makes sense. You learn by looking at the whole thing
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Yep. You end up with a general sense of things, instead of being able to justify your statements with bullet points
@@JamesDavis-ps6yysomehow that specific way of describing it made it make sense for me. Didnt really get the spaghetti thing, so thanks
I had trouble understanding this as well. Already being familiar with Gestalt psychology distracted me, because it's not the same as that at all.
"don't panic, nothing is real" !! i am still laughing at this. i actually remind myself of this every day when my anxiety brain is out on a run around the world & back. also when people get really intense about gender, its just a lot. i like the prosidic section - i didn't know this word. i'm going to look further into that. i think where my peaks come out is different each time i speak & it's not usually where i want them. my brain goes fast too. i did enjoy this video & learning the technical terms. thanks so much, again so well done. thanks for being
I clicked on this video, and my attention span has not once left. I actually enjoyed your speaking pace, and find that most RUclipsrs and people tend to speak too slow for me.
I’m the opposite. I’ve slowed her down to 0.75x - she’s way too fast for me. 😂 There’s another autism RUclipsr who is the same.
I feel the same on most videos, I have to speed it up to 1.25 and on teaching videos up to 1.5. I was able to hold attention quite easily.
I do the fast-talking!
Oh, and I often go non-verbal. Now, I grew up totally undiagnosed, so I always considered it to be shyness, not feeling like putting the energy into speaking, or valuing thought over speech.
LOL "honk honk dog" is great, sort of like the "potato hashtags" my husband said when he forgot the term "waffle fries"
That is wonderful and will be added to my vocabulary, thank you
"Honk honk dog... which isn't wrong."
Ok, but now I just wanna call them potato hashtags from now on. Every time.
Basically reinventing German nouns but in English 😂
Potato hashtags are delicious
Yay!! I've been embracing my own wackiness as an autistic person in the last year or so. My speech patterns and directness in subject matter are turned up to ELEVEN most of the time! When you were talking about Doug the dog from the movie UP, I laughed, because I absolutely love talking like Doug! Simple, honest, exuberant, and direct. "I am your DOG and I LOVE you!" Fortunately, people in my life mostly get it.
One of the things your video makes me think of is the dearth of literature involving autism in adulthood and how autistics process various human interactions as children versus as adults. Specifically, it makes me think that it looks like you are making this your career so that when Gen A scholars, educators, and infotainers explain these things they will be referencing your books among their other sources. Thank you for doing this. It makes me happy.
Learning about gestalt language processing is interesting because I've noticed the process very clearly while learning new languages. When I listen to media (mainly music) in those languages, I've always remembered things in small chunks--interesting phrases or sentences--and been able to remember those chunks & their meanings far before I can really break them down into their components. Then at some point I start to identify components common to a few of them and either look up or guess at the meaning.
Unreliable speech. Lol I just thought that was me panic masking because I wasn't fast enough to construct the actual thing I wanted to say and just went with whatever popped in my head first to avoid the awkward.
@joiceomo2829 You've replied to one of my comments before, with the exact same paragraph. Spammer.
I've been told that I sound like a text to speech program when I talk, whenever someone says that, it really bothers me. I've also been asked if I use recreational drugs. I tried over the years to develop a normal speaking style, and I ended up with something that sounds almost like I'm perpetually reading someone a bedtime story.
I'm pretty sure I often sound like a robot
I was once told in high school that I sounded like one of those tannoid voices you hear telling you which train is going from which platform at a station. The whole class was like "oh yeah!!"
That was 11 years ago and I still feel off about it haha
Yes, I understand, I have a bad habit of either sounding like I'm their therapist or like I'm in a movie acting (or I'm just repeating the way someone in a video/movie said something). No wonder all this masking causes social exhaustion so quickly!
Sounds relaxing ❤
I have been told I speak like a book. I've also had a lot of people ask where I am from to find out my accent. 😅
So interesting. The prosody thing - I'm often asked whether English is my second language or where I'm from. When I say Indiana, they say, no where are you *originally from* and seem incredulous when I say I was born in the U.S. to parents who were also born here.
I've had a cashier ask me if I was a foreigner once in my own country, presumably because of my speech patterns. In her defence this was in a city whose most distinctive feature is a university which sees the odd international student
I've had the same thing happen many times! My husband has told me my speech patterns are atypical and that I sound a bit like a book! 😅
I just sorta lie and say that I spent a lot of time with my grandma when I was young, who was from [insert made up town name in England], and that made me talk kinda like her.
Which isn't technically untrue, she was English, but the only things that really caused me to say that aren't common in America are how I accent the word "aluminum" and the fact that I say "innit" sometimes
I finally started telling those who asked that I grew up watching PBS and BBC. I grew up in Texas. I can make myself sound Texan (I'm good with accents) but I just don't naturally sound like I'm from there.
Do you ever catch yourself thinking 5 things at once and all of them sound better in your head than the often hilarious things that concurrently jumble their way out of your mouth 😂
Yes. And I can't count how many times I merge two words together to get one half of each said.
@@a_wild_Kirillian At least 3x a day for me tbh
Yes! Me! I tried to say "I bet" and "I'm guessing" at the same time and I said, "I'm buessing...."
@@DinosaurNick It's ridiculous how often I combine words just like this. XD
@@christianyaerger1751 ikr same!
the "feeling like your brain is constipated" thing is constant for me and it's so annoying!! there are so many thoughts in my head but I just can't verbalize them, I don't know the right words, and if I try to explain, the person listening would just misunderstand. I also can't speak when I'm too overwhelmed or in a sensory overload, it's too exhausting
You don't even have to start talking about the patterns for me to realize that we talk so much alike. The pace, the corners you round etc. I never understand why my partner sometimes has problems following me in a conversation and then I get this mirror and am like oh yeah haha. Eventhough I don't have that problem with you it is pretty stimulating^^
Yeah, I kept waiting for the part of the video where her speech patterns were going to be "odd" in some way because she kept mentioning herself as an example and, instead, I was confused because it all just sounded like natural and normal conversation to me. I came into the video wondering if I would recognize any of her speech patterns in myself (as I've been on a journey for the past couple of years to figure out why my executive functioning is so wack) but, though I didn't realize it at first, I guess my confusion at not finding anything out of the ordinary in the way she spoke was kind of an answer to my question.
I got called by a scammer trying to convince me they were from Microsoft and my computer had a critical virus and I was so irritated all I could do was sort of... screech.
Normally I'd feel a little bad at screeching at someone out of the blue, but not this time!
On work conference calls I do periodically have to stop mid-sentence because I'm getting verbally jumbled (cluttering, stuttering, dysnomia, anomia, prosidy problems, just a bucket of quirks), and just start it again from scratch.
oh this could explain why my language and writing abilities are quite strong, but when learning a new language (with a monolingual upbringing) was SOO difficult. genuinely an entirely different mental exercise. constructing grammar and sentence structure for a new-to-you language based on various independent rules is much more analytical.
the shout out to anne of green gables style writing & speaking made me scream. i was truly so ~found by those books lmao
This is one of the first talking videos that I haven't been able to run at 1.75x or 2x because you're actually talking fast enough to listen to already
I like the way you talk. I get it.
I was genuinely confused when you said its an autistic speech pattern.
The interjections and idea mixing is very comfy.
I’m currently obsessed with the speech patterns of the incredible speaking parrot Gizmo the Grey
The way she strings words into sentences is to me quite remarkable coz it’s very similar to the random sentences I hear coming from water or wind or traffic noises or tea kettles you name it sort of like the incredibly complex information coming in schizophrenic speak
I’ve got a list of things she says that repeat in my head and I just have to say out loud giving me endless joy atm
Hearing the phrase " You perceive the whole rather than the sum of its parts" kind of hit me hard. Whenever i have subtitles/CC on (or read a book); I read the words as soon as I see them. Which I was surprised to hear is not how most people read. Edit: I am self-diagnosed ASC & ADH & in my late 30s.
How do most people read them?
@@mid70smod17 One word at a time. I meant to say I read a whole block of text at once.
were you good at reading tests as kid too?
@@brandonwilson4408 I was, from the age of about 8, I maxed out the reading age test, with a reading age of 14.
@@nitt3rz do most people really read one word at a time?? that seems too slow
Omg not only do your descriptions and explanations here completely outline me, but you actually speak exactly like me
"Do not panic, nothing is real..."
The most scary and comforting phrase I've heard today. 😂 Gonna use this for my anxiety.
12:00 I watch videos at 1.5 to 2x speed almost exclusively but I didn’t change the speed on this video and I thought it was strange that I didn’t feel like changing it until I got to this part where it made sense.
Fascinating video. Applause to the algorithm for recommending it to me.
This is a fantastic info-dump, and helps me recognize and name the patterns of speech that myself and my neurodiverse family display.
Looking forward to checking out your music.
Video: "Another very autistic example is using lines from a movie, for example, as a form of communication"
Me, exactly replicating that Vine from like 2015: "haha I do that"
The "you" thing explains a lot that is referring to myself as "you" when speaking. Some mindfulness groups really emphasize "speak from your own experience" and I've found myself reminded of that because I kept saying "you" when I really meant I/me. I've worked really hard to get out of that habit.
Wow, you've made me realize that I also do this. It often happens anytime I'm trying to explain the sequence of actions within a narrative, an example being "you'd get drunk, immediately regret it, you'd feel horrible and then you'd pass out." which sounds like I'm talking about YOU but in reality I'm talking about myself. I've done this for years. Which means I do this verbally as well, which is harder to catch myself doing. Ugh.
@@tigristhelynx7224Around middle school a friend of mine made fun of Ozzy Osbourne referring to himself in third person on a talk show like "Ozzy likes..." and I felt weirdly hurt by that and didn't understand why as I wasn't a fan. I suppose I was self conscious that I recognized that I had an atypical speech style myself.
@@tigristhelynx7224 A *lot* of people do this. Often people start talking (or writing) using "I" and switch to "you" partway through. I always marvel at how pervasive this seems to be. 😊
@@tigristhelynx7224 I struggle with this too
I do this A LOT as well
Actually love the speed at which you speak. I just finished another of your videos and if asked how long they were without looking I'd have guesstimated them both 50% shorter. Like clown cars, RUclips videos are simply more engaging the more you manage to pack into them
You're passion for this subject really shines through in this video! Thank for the insight! This info is invaluable for us teachers who need to communicate with all students, not just student considered "neurotypical"
Years ago, I briefly entertained the possibility I was on the spectrum, but discounted it out of hand.
Now, however, I'm finding a wealth of sources describing so many of the things I've experienced and... I just honestly don't know what to do with this information.
There are times when my mind is going so much faster than my mouth, and I just start combining words into strange agglutinations. Sometimes speech comes slowly and stilted; I think of it like a mountain range, and I'm scaling each individual word, finding my way over, around and through them. Sometimes even the simplest words disappear from my mind. And there are times I simply can't say anything at all. I'm also recognizing now that, in childhood, I'd take on the voice of a character, and this sometimes helped me express myself more clearly. Moreover, I once had someone make fun of my flat intonation and affect, and I made a huge effort to incorporate greater pitch and range and expression.
I'm not entirely convinced I AM on the spectrum, but there seem to be more and more signs pointing in that direction. And I guess it helps. It's good to know that I'm not broken, just wired differently.
I am the opposite and need to slow down the speed of videos to process what people are saying. Even rewinding and re-watching parts to understand what is being said, which can frustrate people when I am watching something with others. I tend to show more facial expressions and voice tones when I have a script in my head or know the answer to a question but if I have to think about my answer or what I want to say I struggle to do this. The struggle to put what I want to say into words is a big issue for me and very frustrating to the point I am often misunderstood and the other person has moved on to something else before I can re-word what I was trying to say. This is most likely why I hate phone calls because It doesn't matter how much I write a script before hand, if an unexpected issue comes up I struggle to put into words something to get conversation back on track to get what I needed from the phone call. At least in person It gives me more time to correct what I was trying to say even if it is awkward and embarrassing.
6:08 there’s a bird singing in the background that I fixated on and re-listened to about a dozen times. I don’t think that’s related to the video. It just made me happy
Very interesting video. Lots of people say I'm aloof and nervous all the time. Nope, I'm just artistic!
Christ that was intense . Well done.
I find turning an idea into a liniar linguistic stream such an effort,
I need a buffering tattoo on my face. So people dont presume I'm finished.
Im just editing chunks of sentences to fit together , concisely and efficiently , removing erm just chunks,and trying to hold down the original idea in ram .
Man that's so annoying .... I haven't finished constructing what I'm trying to say but they take the first part and run with it and the conversation has gone way off course before I can start to explain the rest of my thinking. At that point I just give up and go along with it because it's too much effort because people don't seem to like to circle back in conversations. Another reason to avoid trying to have conversations with allists.
Got a couple for ya.
I keep forgetting what air fryers are called, so been referring to it as the hotbox.
My son (also autistic) called the ceiling fan a whirly-phoom once, and we all kind of decided that's what they are now.
Well, I didn't think I'd finally figure out why I talk how I talk and why. I have Cluttering, I used to speak faster than someone with adhd. And the only way I could get over it is if I lower my tone of voice and carefully focus on each syllable. It's not perfect and I'll slowly ramp-up my speech if I don't notice it.
Semantic paraphasia is another I deal with and it's gotten better over time but it still really gets to me. And the most important one, insufficient speech. It's got a whole lot better as I've grown up. But I'd describe it as having emotions that for the life of you can't find words for, opting to instead draw desperately what you want to have spoken. I actually forget words, whole words, words I use everyday. And can't even give a vague idea of what I want to say because the word IS the idea I want said. And any other word that might better fit or another word that works just as well will never come to me, my brain in that moment just has a hole. I actually speech foreign languages better than my native language sometimes and I don't know why.
As a quick side note: because of my "insufficient speech" I'm really good at making moppet like actions with my hands. I think it's cutely funny as I do it subconsciously, so I can be in a serious meeting and talking as proper as I can and my hands will still jazz around like everything is normal.
Hi. Can autistic people speak childlike? I'm autistic and my mom says that I need to speak more adultlike because of my age, she thinks I sound childish
Same here. I've had a childlike voice my whole life and some people are "shocked" that I still sound so childlike. Anyway from what I've seen the answer to your question is yes
This. Relatable!
Oh yes! I wondered about it if it's also a trait
It's possible, the question is to what extent you want to deal with the consequences of that versus the consequences of masking. I wish there were a good answer, but over the long term, the more people that just speak like themselves with the main focus being communication, the sooner this kind of silly advice won't be given.
I say silly stuff and words that don't make sense and sing to myself in a childlike way and meow meow a lot 😂
I love that you talk in nested brackets (this is also how I talk especially when I am talking to other autistic people [I love talking to autistic people and your video goes some way to explain why]) getting out of breath resets the bracketing
I found this to be informative, thank you. One thing that wasn't mentioned are processing.pauses.
Your comment about the metaphors legitimately and literally made my day. I love it. Also, I get great humor out of the fact I noted how I didn’t need to speed your video, as I do with many others. Thank you so very much- new sub!
My daughter speaks so fast she creates new contractions.
My daughter creates whole new words : her computer was acting up once, so she slammed the lid and called it a " nincomputer".
@@Wrapscallionn that’s pretty clever!!
This type of situation got awkward for me when I was speaking to a colleague and tried to end a sentence with "yeah so that's it, basically" but I contracted the word "basically" (with a bit of "probably" mixed in) and it sounded like "baby". So I just said "yeah so that's it, baby" to my coworker.
@@OhSoUnicornly oooh… yeah that would be awkward!
@@OhSoUnicornly my daughter says things that aren’t generally recognizable unless you have heard her say it before. She has a few regular phrases. If she wants more sausage for breakfast she says, “unt sausagain” for “I want sausage again” and if she doesn’t want to use the public toilets (usually because they have automatic flush) She says “po-home” for “potty at home” meaning “I want to go potty at home instead” (and she says these very quickly).
I missed some of the names of the different things because I was so fascinated listening to you talk. Your speech sounds so much like mine when I'm excited. Especially those teeny tiny pauses after words. When I'm anxious I have a lot of pauses and hesitations between words and a hard time finding the words I want and a hard time getting words to come out.
How is it possible that I've had my diagnosis for over 10 years, and this is the first time I've heard that accdentall lying and made up words are just natural for someone like me 🤣
Really great video ✨️
Wall water=fountain, seizure trees=sun filtering through trees as you drive by making a flashing effect, cat paper=Scotts toilet paper. I have more, just can’t think of them while listening to the video.
Seizure trees! So good
Love Donovan's reversed prosidy in songs like "Sunshine Superman", Once there is a Mountain, etc. It tickles my brain 🧠
I've started speeding up youtube videos to 1.25 or 1.5 but the speed you're talking as it perfect for me, I realised this when you mentioned it and looked down to see if I sped it up but nope!
I'm an aspie and a linguistic major, and yet I've never heard of gestallt language development, but it makes SO much sense looking back over my life and the way I think of languages. That's literally entirely how I learnt Spanish as an adult. Like it's the only method I learned and I didn't even realize it until you explained it. I learned songs and song lyrics, and especially stuff they say over and over again.
Omg I learn from songs as well! It makes so much sense now! Context of words helps so much.
My dad (innocently) laughed at me when it started raining and i happened to say "the rain has begun." I guess normal people would just say "it's raining." Lol
Just stumbled on this video and based on how fluent you seemed to me, as in, very recognizably similar to my own patterns, I think I've just learned something about how I speak that I'd never even begun to realize.
This is one of very few videos on YT that I can watch on regular speed (i.e. not at x1.5) which is, like, yeah.
I jusr discovered your channel, in much the same way a 15th century European explorer discovers an inhabited continent. 😁
I really appreciated all your research and the presentation of the information. Best of all you have just improved my life immensely by reminding me of the long forgotten fact that I can watch videos at >1x speeds. I often get bored with many videos as my brain wants things to come in quicker. Now I am sorted, and you have a new subscriber. 😁😁
I have the same problem when I click on a link for what looks like an interesting article, but instead it's a video and they're talking so slow that I could easily have read the entire script before they finish the first sentence.
I love this feature and use it all the time (1.5x) - a quicker way to gather the data in video without getting bored, plus saves time. You can also adjust speeds on audio books or textbooks with audio features! Plus, probably easier processing the information for my ADD brain!
I was sent this by my father due to being a huge linguist enthusiast and immediately I found you to be so relatable with the way you speak. It was comforting listening to someone who also has distracted thoughts appear in the middle of a sentence and then go back to the topic at hand like it never happened. So many people look at me strange when I am “rambling” as they put it but it’s just how my brain works. I have liked and subscribed and look forward to seeing more videos from you. Thank you for putting this out and not over editing to make things more seamless. The realness is appreciated ❤
As someone that has thereotically perfect 20 20 vision but fail to identify objects practically in front of them unless given a colour to go with, I really appreciate you describing yourself and the room you are in ❤
UNRELIABLE SPEECH EXPLAINS SO MUCH HOLY SHIT
Like, my friends know damn well that if I say a sentence in auto-pilot mode, I’m more than likely bullshitting. But like, I don’t mean to! I sometimes don’t even realize what happened! I’M JUST SAYING WHAT MY INSTINCTS TELL ME TO SAY!!
First video here! I'm sure I'll watch more. I loved the information and your delivery. Your last name is really cool too; I've never seen that before.
Oh and my favorite dance-around-the-misplaced-word phrase I've done lately is "the metal fire bread box". I've had geese and "honk honk dog" is a 10/10, perfect substitute.
Ahhhhh this is the first video of yours I've seen and man I'm a bit caught off guard by how refreshing your voice / pattern of speech is. You talk like I do!! It's so easy to understand what you're saying.
I don't know that much about this, but i've heard mentions before of how autistic people might have an actual different accent than what they're expected to have. i did not grow up speaking with the same accent as the people around me (Norwegian, so country full of different accents) I spoke somewhat more like what would be on tv, than my parents, friends, school etc. i've even gotten questions of when i moved here, despite living basically at the same place my whole life. i just find this kind of interesting.
I'm Australian and I've been asked before if I'm American or grew up there, just because I adopted some inflections from watching cartoons a lot. My best friend is the same but it his accent is way more obvious
16:41 Speech patterns like a mother speaking to a child.
O.M.G.
I have a theory for why this happens. Mimicry.
When it's hard to develop one's own "natural" way of speaking, the way to do the speaking thing is to imitate the speaking thing that I experienced. I heard the way my mother spoke to me as a child, and so I spoke like that. Like a mother speaking to a child.
Damn. This makes sense of so much for me. At least, it makes sense to me.
As a new parent of an autistic child, I enjoyed and learned ALOT from this video. You're doing a great job and helping many people. 👏 Don't stop!
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I'm recently diagnosed autistic/ADHD. You talk like me. Thanks for the great video, and thanks for looking at the camera
My teacher once remarked, "I wish you could talk as fast as you think". My mouth lags behind my brain. What does that mean?
Scoopy, cuty, and pokey, for spoon, knife, and fork, respectively, for when my brain just can't.
At the risk of having you base a slight part of your self-worth on my comment, which, obviously, no one should ever do: YOU'RE SO AWESOME! I loved this video and ten minutes in I already learned more about autistic speech patterns than I had until now. I loved it! Thank you for putting your work out there and sharing your research (of research, lol) with others. Very helpful! P.s. love the 'autism just a label' thing. I see it that way too: neurodivergence is a minority as compared to neurotypical which has resulted in less understanding, accomodation and celebration of what it has to offer, when really, it offers the world so much! There's no better (of course there is: neurodivergent); there's only different. We should value both and help each other where differences cause miscommunications or issues.
I experience the sporadic mutism, stuttering, referring to myself in the third person, and messing up words the most. I find myself changing the consonants in words often. I also have difficulty with prosity, speaking in a sing-song voice and not regulating or standardizing my pitch or volume.
Oh my goodness! The one where you forget your word and can't say what you want to is so real! I've joked for years that "forgot my English and don't have a language to replace it with". Also, the one where you just don't have any words to say what you want to at all; where it feels as though there aren't actually words for it. Glad to know these are real things and I'm not just dumb. lol
❤ I really really appreciate everything in here, and reading through the comments. I really need to sleep though so hopefully i can do that
When on ADHD meds, the speech blockages occur very alien and annoying; when off said drugs for a few days, the speech patterns return to my regular verbal diarrhoea. Though awareness of this means all who know their issues, tiring regulation and reading the listener to know when you've lost them. I spend way more time now listening and trying to restrict an answer to the question with the 'Apple advanced button theory' of pressing this button for a more detailed explanation, which comes out as 'this is my area of research and its complicated' then I'll give a broad basic answer, knowing if the listener wants to learn more. They can ask; if not, they won't feel that I would be offended, a mutual 'let's not go there '.
Many languages use pitch to convey meaning. Chinese, for example, has at least 4 tones (in Mandarin). So the Chinese word “ma” has 4 different meanings based on the actual tone (pitch of the word, rising, falling, monotonic, etc.) . Based on what you just said about pitch issues in autistic speech, I wonder if there are differences in how autistic Chinese people communicate versus how autistic people in non-tonal languages (like English) communicate.
I~ ... don't kno~w ... if I'm autistic. ... I've known it is a possibility for awhil~e but never got checked
... ... I often formulate what I'm going to say before I say it
... But will sometimes have a bit of a trail~ ... whil~e I think about the next part
I'm not a fast (or frequent) talker. But, sometimes ... my brain goes faster than my mouth can keep up and I stumble on a word and then have to reset my mouth and enueaf;shfai ... nyeh ... e-nun-ci-ate said word before I can continue
It's kinda fun trying to emulate my speech pattern in text. I have been told that I'm kinda robotic/monotone before. And, I'm usually pretty blunt.
9:47 the world NEEDS the list of workaround explanations in your phone
thanks so much for this video. I'm constantly still learning about my own autism and this video really helped me to understand myself better. To understand why i say things in a certain way or why I'm not able to express myself "normally" in other ways. I genuinely feel better about myself as a person after watching this.
I think you just helped me realize what I meant when I was telling people I was learning stuff by understanding the "logic" and "reasons" behind it, and that I didn't need a dictionary for french lessons because I understood the rules of what letters made sense depending on their sounds (i'm from quebec, and remembered talking about this in high school). I've been thinking of being on the autism spectrum for a while with how I need to write down manually everything in a notebook whether it's creative or professionnal), but adding all of this just blown my mind.
Thank you for this. I understand why I was writing the way I did. That is... huge!
I absolutely love the "go place box vroom vroom". Such kennings are also often to be found in certain sociolects. For example, I know an old Russian prison song whose protagonist arrives at his detention place "jingling like a Gipsy full of bracelets", referring to his shackles. And here in Austria, the slang expression for "being arrested" is "getting the 8", which I find particularly interesting as it directly refers to the shape of that cipher.
i love how fast you talk, my brain always wants people to talk faster
I never knew "insufficient speech" was something that actually existed outside of my own personal experience. I've really struggled with it as far back as I can remember, getting what's inside out there in a manner that's easy to parse feels anywhere from difficult to impossible because my thoughts are all so interconnected and occur all at once and I feel like I have to lay a foundation and carefully construct the pathway for the recipient to hopefully understand, even when it comes to writing/texting, sometimes especially when it comes to writing/texting (yes, even now), to the point where I will shutdown outside even though everything's going full-bore inside, its among the most frustrating things I deal with and it's f*cking exhausting.
When you got to cluttering I immediately went "yes - yes - YES!" because that's a perfect description of what I do all the time! Also I didn't notice anything unusual in the way you talk (not even the speed until you mentioned it), so I guess that's because I talk the same way lol
This is a great video especially learning about gestalt language processing! And gives me a lot more confidence in how I process my thoughts and language.
i really like the audiodescription section at the beginning of this video. thanks for making the internet a more inclusive place :)
I definitely do the phonemic paraphasia thing. One example I started a few months ago is singing the hippopotamus for Christmas song as “I want a pippohotamus for Christmas.”
Sounds right to me...😊
This is actually a common thing for NTs to mess up sometimes too, it's called metathesis. For example people who say "ask" as "ax".
@@swagmundfreud666 no I did it because it felt right I definitely didn’t do it not as a mess up
@@cash-skywalker4213 And saying "ax" feels right to people who say "ax".
@@swagmundfreud666 That's a black culture thing. But this is an autistic thing. Do you not understand that she describes what I was talking about as an autistic idiosyncratic speech pattern in the video. I'm autistic so what is your point?