The characters shown have very accurate honor levels due to their actions in game not before or after. Edit: a lot of you guys seem to be upset with Arthur’s rating, you can’t be a better person after killing more than 1,100 people in the space of 3 months. It’s not logical. I believe that the low honor and high honor endings are canon, both are canon. Rockstar NEVER confirmed that either ending was canon.
Redemtion is in the end but if not mention honor system arthur morgan is very bad man, he is looks like the one, but in his diary you can see that he very kind man from the start
@@FsicX he kills. He said it himself to Karen and Mary-Beth. He said he was behaving a little more abnormally than usual (probably because of what happened in Blackwater).
Yeah what is the person even thinking, in what world is Karen a worse person than Grimshaw ? Grimshaw literally guns down an innocent lady, Karen is not an awful person
Pearson deserves maximum honour. He worked extremely hard for the gang, making food and doing lots of work around camp, and despite the gang showing little to nothing appreciation, he still did work no matter what, and during his time in the gang, he didn’t rob nor kill, he just worked around the camp.
@@maauricio16 She treats them "badly" but in reality she cares for them, and most the time you see them lazing about. Shes keeping them in line. Grimshaw is the first one to grab arthur and go get tilly from the foreman boys, not dutch, not hosea, not anybody else but grimshaw.
@@krisvqzz she killed molly because at the time, they believed molly was the rat. They had no clue it was micah (we aren't even 100% sure ourselves its micah) Molly said she was the traitor and so they got rid of her for safe keeping.
@@joodgement3388 yeah but even arthur tried to let it go and later gang interactions like when karen called miss grimshaw a murderer and how molly was in love proves that it was more or so obvious that molly was just in love with dutch and wanted attention. micah is the traitor. theres theories that abigail was the 2nd traitor but thats bs lol anyways the last time i played rdr2 was 2 years ago so correct me if im wrong
Dude she literally stressed out Dutch more than he was even stressed and wasted all their times, like most of the gang never get to even talk to Dutch like mary-Beth and Tilly but she still did what she did, and also peole were dying and she cares about love?
@@Waltuhwituh Dutch kept gaslighting her and calling her crazy, all while cheating on her with mary beth. Y'all hate on poor molly despite her being right.
Uncle has the most Neutral honor of all time or high honor. He never actually commits any horrible crimes and he only kills in self defense . Uncle is a legend
i genuinely cried for like 30 minutes he was just a guy who liked horses who ended up with the wrong people.. he should be at the stables not the grave
I went into their hiding place and killed them all with the tomahawk, Arthur was all red, but the blood wasn't his, it was theirs, and I killed Colm a bunch of times even though I failed the mission
@@el_pepe_99 Karen died along with Lenny along with Arthur and Sean and eagle flies and also Javier I honestly just feel bad for the morons that play this game and assume they can be an honorable person after you do nothing but dishonorable stuff throughout the main story
@@SlicerboxerSliceboxer Arthur kind of deserved what he got after getting stabbed and tuberculosis being that he beat the dying sick man up Thomas Downs for less than $30 so i kind of see a coward that is not honorable and clearly wasted time supporting camp... Edit:A big waste to a honor system that has no meaning obviously
Technically because most of them committed sins and crimes like killing , stealing destruction of property and etc even if it’s for the better most of the gang members should have low-mid honor
@@Walterwhite-fu3gc no they wouldn't cause this is a game about outlaws not about real life so the honor system is different say if u steal something u won't be and total bad character
@@Walterwhite-fu3gc bro no you know how many times arthur says we even used to help people until dutch turned corrupt. people like hosea and charles were very good people you only ever see them harming or stealing from already very bad people like cornwall and during bank robberies they only look intimidating and yell obviously to get the money, they never harm anyone that’s always arthur to the bank manager.
One thing is Abigail isn't low honour. She isn't doing anything sus or evil. She's just vibing with jack in camp. She actually hates all these killings and robbings. Didn't they make a game out of it with john already?
It’s like getting mad at Chi chi from dragon ball. They just want their kids to have an actual childhood and have a good education, but are constantly dragged into wacky and deadly bullshit
@@Doggo_is_sus you realize these are fictional people in the creation of a video game right it's very weird and very awkward and actually kind of disturbing
@@JoeyGambella yes I know them because I know every single lore part given by the game owners. How is Abigail dishonourable is my question and you're assuming bullshit please I had a stroke trying to understand what you said.
Abigail does NOT have low honor … where would this even be implied she has low honor besides bitching at John for behind a bad father ?? Genuinely confused 😂 she was a sweetheart and absolutely admired Arthur as an old brother type , I remember in the story I think it’s right after you rescue John , Abigail approaches you at camp and thanks you , they start talking about Dutch looking like he’s losing his mind and Arthur says “just be careful” and Abigail responds with “ I don’t have to be careful , I … I have you as a friend “ . Warms my heart to this day that John and Abigail admired and loved Arthur so much .
Throughout history, Strauss really was a man of low honor, being a loan shark, but after Arthur kicks him out of the camp during the epilogue, Charles tells us that he died in prison without opening his mouth, so given his past, he is a man of low honor. msis he had his redemption
@@celomentirosoReal I straight up let the next enemy kill me so I can try to kill the men before they shoot Lenny but unfortunately it's entirely impossible to save (should depend on your honor imo)
My first playthrough was basically straight high honor, but I finally managed to get a low-to-high honor run going the other day, where I “redeem” Arthur towards the end. The ideal goal would be to max out honor but if that’s not feasible, I just want to get the deer vision instead of the coyote (or wolf, can’t remember). You might want to try that since ideally it still gives you the high honor ending.
Molly didn’t do anything wrong - she actually didn’t succumb to the pinkertons, she was just drunk when she told Dutch that. She was loyal to the gang, and she stood up for herself when Dutch abused her. I think that at least gives her positive honor.
@@fox.535 Welp cant blame her when almost everyone aside from Arthur and some of the boys didnt have any respect for her. Dutch treated her like sh1t, is clear in the game that she was just a replacement for Annabelle
Expanding on what you said, even though I believe Arthur was truly a good man at heart the only way he could somewhat repay the world for the things he’s done was what happened in the endings, dying for someone else (John and his family) No matter how many people he helps and saves he will still always be in debt from the hundreds of people he’s killed and their families he’s inadvertently devastated. To finish off my yapping session, Arthur was a good man who got roped in with the wrong people and did some horrible things, so I guess he deserved what happened on that mountain. (As the way of the west)
He is an anti villain There are no uncanon cause rockstar never said anything In rdr2 he killed 300+ in like at most 3 months And he was with dutch for about 20 years Meaning he is a professional killer and robber, making him have a low honor
Abigail has high honour. She hasn't killed as far as her life goes. She took Sadie in after the death of her husband and she protected Jack as well as she could with the abscence of John
Molly is neutral honor imo: she always refused to lift a finger to help the gang and insinuated the other girls in the gang are servants by replying “I’m nobody’s servant girl” when Arthur asks her to help the other girls. She spends all day primping herself up while everyone else works
Abigail's top priority is clearly her son and she is an excellent mother to him given the circumstances. She never kills or robs anyone that I can remember. Sure, she has arguments with John, but given his behavior, it's warranted. What part of that is low honor?
@@kailola827 Trelawny is a great family man if you know it, plus he always targeted rich people, which should be high honor per gang standards Still Abigail should be high though, also Susan's was wrong for me, she did great job as secretary of the gang.
@@dylanschafer172 “saved everyone” literally 3 people directly, a few more if you count him telling people to leave as saving them. And not to mention the people he saves are criminals. Arthur kills like a lot of people, not just through players actions but in lore before the game takes place and certain people during the story. The honor meter is a gameplay mechanic, not a really measurement system, so this list isn’t honor relative to the video games narrative, it’s relative to a world of human people. Murdering 100 people doesn’t suddenly become honorable just because you feel bad about it or because you help Jack get away
@@beanboozlerr Yeah no. Damn near every chapter has missions where Arthur does inexcusably dishonorable things like robbing innocents, shooting up entire towns, etc. No matter what ending you get Arthur dies a dishonorable person because of his crimes.
Okay horseradish foot fungus here is why. "Oh you killed 100+ people and robbed, assulted and kiddnaped AND YOUR FIRST CRIME WAS AT 12!? OOH You did two weeks of good deeds nvm you good."
@@Alvixity oh HELPING A POOR FAMILY, HELPING A DYING WIDOW, SAVING INNOCENT PEOLE (rains fall and eagle flies) CONVINCING A FAMILY TO LEAVE A VERY DANGEROUS PLACE, HELPING AN ILD FRIEND 2 TIM- oh he robbed an outlaw nvm he guilty asf😊
@@Alvixity anyone can have a redemption bro. The reason he is high honor is because he realised he was a bad man and he owned up to it and then became a better man not because of status but because he truly knew it was the right thing. Arthur did have a redemption and he is a good man. Every time he killed someone he always regretted it and only did it for survival.
@@Kexetey nah chapter 1 to 3 neutral honour chapter 4 high honour chapter 5 very high honour and chapter 6 max honour in my opinion Because you start of with neutral honour in the beginning
Stf Dijon musturd crust "Oh you killed 100+ people and robbed, assulted and kiddnaped AND YOU MURDERED SOMEONE AT 12!? OOH You did two weeks of good deeds nvm you good."
If we take a spin on the word honor and change it to "regard of one self" I would say that Arthur's sacrifice is more honorable and higher regarded than most actions in the whole game.
While it was legal back then, Take a look at the people he's loaned money too. Especially in chapter 6. There's no way in hell those people would have a chance to pay it off yet he doesn't even bat an eye to it and even excuses it by saying the poor people are the only one who'd fall for it.
@@Rebelrose Extremely poor with no house and 70 cents in pocket, average with money to pay the debt and live - it doesn’t matter who takes money in debt. It’s legal - and that’s it. It’s their fault that they get in debt knowing they can’t return it.
Canonically Arthur is not a good man, he’s know it. But deep down he is a kind person who goes out his way to help others but blinded by loyalty to the gang, to Dutch.
Not gonna lie the way I first played it in 2018 when it just came out and I doddnt hear any spoilers has to be the way it was intended. I played neutral cause I tried my best to be good but I wasn't sure who I was or what would happen. I always did good but u couldn't help being bad. It gives the best side dialogue about how Arthur dosnt know who he is and needs to pick a road. In the last part of the game, I raised his honor . That's Canon.
No it isn't. The true ending is him dying. You Arthur fanboys don't get how writers do these kind of video game stories. ITS OPTIONAL. YOU CHOOSE WHAT ARTHUR GODDAMN DOES. You can't force me, Lets say I want low honor to be my canon, DEAL WITH IT
@@thechefwhodoesntcook8233Technically there is always a "redemption" in the game it dosen't really make sense low honor ending because you were a asshole with everyone, for example why would Sadie, Charles and John revenge Arthur with low honor (it happensbon the story but it dosen't feal like geniune in my opinion)
@@richardcastillos2896 Because either way, Arthur saved basically all of them. Whether or not he was meaner, they still knew that he gave them all everything that he had
@@thechefwhodoesntcook8233 Yeah its true he save everyone in the end but that dosen't take away you were a asshole with low honor, he "indirectly" save them because it for example being lower honor means not helping Sadie in his revenge on the Odrisco , the chief of native american, as also not helping John in the end end (and if you do well it dosen't really make much sense but is a option) i am not saying that is bad being low honor i play as low honor but it make way more sense the high honor ending because it dose feel like a redemption is the same as low honor going for the money ending it dosen't make sense why at that point he would be going for the money leving John.
NGL I feel as if Arthur died with good honor.. like the second he knows he has his illness it's like his calling card for a wake up and he turns a new leaf
@@justinh9674 not really.. more like you are guilty of it lmao. As a player you choose to mow down hundreds. Arther may if killed alot. But you can't say alot of them didn't deserve it
@@galaxygn0me220 It’s definitely canon that Arthur ends every gunfight with a lot of bullets. And yeah while nobody gives a fuck about the odriscolls, the pinkertons and guarma military are just people doing their jobs.
@@justinh9674 the guwarma military held them agesnt there will and nearly killed one of there own. The Pinkerton's played dirty. Kidnaped members of the gang. And did illegal activities to get some members of the gang
@@galaxygn0me220 Milton tried to cut deals with the gang time and time again. At the end of the day the are thieves and murderes hunted by the cops. And since the gang refused to cooperate they made their choice
Arthur is human, he's imperfect. The player decides whether Arthur becomes an honorable/dishonourable man by the end of the game, but it doesn't change the fact that Arthur has robbed and killed hundreds of people throughout the main story. The canon of Arthur actually having the honorable ending and the whole point of his redemption isn't him become a saint, it's him replenishing the terrible deeds he's done throughout his life by helping other people, and realising that he has in fact done horrible things his whole life and then profoundly regrets it. Arthur was introduced as killer and a thief, but then died like a brave strong man, not a saint or a necessarily "high honour" man.
Comments: “It doesn’t if Arthur only killed enemies or helped lots of people he has low honour” Same comment section: “Lenny and Charles have the HIGHEST HONOUR POSSIBLE”
Arthur's ranking makes sense to me, it's like he told Sister "I've lived a very bad life"... He knows he's a bad men... even without meaning to. At the end he did all the good he could, but maybe too late...
Really? Because my Arthur didn't. And the game lets ME AND YOU choose what Arthur's honor and ending is. Does he die from getting beaten to death or a bullet? YOUR CHOICE. The canon ending is him dying, It's your choice how he dies in that mission
In terms of Arthur i would say that you cant tell his Honor since it really depends on the player if Arthur goes around, saving people, Helping them, or if he is just a thief killing people. So I would not give Arthur a honor there.
this aint undertale where the characters and game acknowlege your existence. red dead has a story where you just play it. sure your actions can affect the shown story but there is only one real canon story which is the high honor ending of arthur but this video is tryna show their overall honor and arthur is overall a bad person before tb and figuring out what he will do before he dies.
To the people saying Arthur is high honour because it’s called redemption, he is either. The redemption is saving John like John saves his family in the first game and Arthur does that with high honour or low honour
honor is about respect, in 1899 you're not going to respect a woman who's an ex-prostitute (Not that there's anything wrong with doing that, it was just frowned upon.) unless you're the one hiring her. she'd have low honor.
If purely killing people means you have low honour, then logically shouldn’t Charles have low honour as well as everyone in the gang who regularly went on missions. If you do purely what the game tells you to do and no extra, then the worst thing Arthur does is robbing people and collecting debts which was on behalf of the camp
Well then shouldn’t be given a pass as well for growing up being raised by killers and thieves, that probably had an effect on his mental health and state and yet he still was able to turn at the end
One thing doesn't rewind years of mooching off people, getting in fights, and laying around drunk while everyone else does all the work. Uncle is not a good dude.
@@JohnnyAllan-vj7sjand yet he actually cared about people and making sure they are safe when the camp was raided he was protecting the woman and children also helped people escape in chapter 6
Honor isn't based on actions in the game, Arthur's a bad man no matter what. It is based on intention and willingness to do good. The more good you do, the easier it becomes, so your honour increases.
THANK YOU!!!! ARTHUR IS A LOW HONOUR PERSON!!! Literally in the last mission, he robs a train, kills innocent people, frees outlaws, kills some more people who were probably just doing there jobs, kills some even more innocent people, and then dies. The only time he starts to redeem himself is when he get TB. Also the game is called REDEMPTION. His redemption is freeing John, escaping Dutch, and letting some of the camp members free. Also (this is a choice) being able absolve and and pay back debts
@@rrockstarrj they used to rob the rich but didn’t by then. You have to kill people on the train and to save Sadie. Also he was still a criminal and a bad person, he was just better than the people around him
Nah he kills the us army who were literally, killing, stealing, and r*ping Indians of their land. He was killing bad guys, and Pinkerton’s were devils too.
@@ldorganics So what? Stealing is stealing. If we base it of how it wotks in the game, Arthur looses honor for every crime he commits and taht would include stealing
@@justinh9674So by that logic everyone in the gang is low honor automatically bc of the number of people they rob and kill. That’s a weak argument. Abigail committed way less crimes and sins than the actual gunmen of the gang and everything she does is for Jack not herself which makes her high honor. You need to look deeper and see the characters intentions before judging them purely on their actions otherwise there’s no point to videos like this
@@moonchild4789 Dude fr people don't understand that It's your choice how you want to play Arthur. Good honor endings and bad honor endings are your choice
Honestly someone that mains Low Honor Arthur I can say originally Arthur is High Honor. From all the story,side mission, and extra dialogues in the game you can tell Arthur does not like being bad. It goes against his code which he is always on about against killing innocent people, robbing innocent people, he’s also very loyal to the gang since he loves them like family since pretty much they are his family. If you pay attention to all the main missions you can clearly see this especially when it doesn’t give you an option to make a choice the choice Arthur usually makes by himself is good.
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The characters shown have very accurate honor levels due to their actions in game not before or after.
Edit: a lot of you guys seem to be upset with Arthur’s rating, you can’t be a better person after killing more than 1,100 people in the space of 3 months. It’s not logical. I believe that the low honor and high honor endings are canon, both are canon. Rockstar NEVER confirmed that either ending was canon.
also man what font is used here? been trying to find it for a while for vids and it would be helpfu
in my personal being i would give MOST of them high honor
@@totallynotsc. Chinese rocks rg
@@rdr.outlaw Suggestion : Could you do this with the GOW verse thanks bro.
Fr that’s what I keep saying to people in the comments
Arthur began with low honor and ended with very high honor, the game's name say it: "redemption"
Redemtion is in the end but if not mention honor system arthur morgan is very bad man, he is looks like the one, but in his diary you can see that he very kind man from the start
It doesn’t matter, he still killed hundreds and he’s not a good person, he’s just the protagonist so everyone thinks he’s good
In their end they show you who they really are
@@FsicX he kills. He said it himself to Karen and Mary-Beth. He said he was behaving a little more abnormally than usual (probably because of what happened in Blackwater).
@@FsicX bro ain’t no way you actually believe that
Uncle be like
Uncle: I can’t have any honor, I have lumbago
It’s a slow painful death my brother
Bahahaha!
I knew someone was gonna do it
Uncle also be like
Uncle: I can't be religious, I have lunbago
Lu MbaGO
Uncle finally has a nickname other than Arthur’s third favorite parasite
Lmao 😂
Red Harlow is Uncle change my mind
@@Midget32 he's Red Harlow with Lumbago
@@Liodon_ Better.
@@Midget32 fr I don’t care if rockstar confirmed it’s not him I love to imagine it’s him and it makes the games better for me
Never let bro cook again
Fact this shit was awful
Cope
Yeah what is the person even thinking, in what world is Karen a worse person than Grimshaw ? Grimshaw literally guns down an innocent lady, Karen is not an awful person
why is abigail low honor tho
@@Adam30029 she is a .
Pearson deserves maximum honour.
He worked extremely hard for the gang, making food and doing lots of work around camp, and despite the gang showing little to nothing appreciation, he still did work no matter what, and during his time in the gang, he didn’t rob nor kill, he just worked around the camp.
He has traveled widely making no small name for himself, he is still unmarried but I assure you it's not due to lack of suitors
@@wingnightbackwards😂😂😂
@@wingnightbackwards he gets married luckily
Yeah I agree. Pearson was a good guy
Pearson deserves all the respect.
Susan Grimshaw is high honor, she gave her everything to the gang and stood by Arthur in the end. Total Queen.
she killed molly with no remorse even if it broke the code.
Also if you pay attention in camp, she treats badly other women
@@maauricio16 She treats them "badly" but in reality she cares for them, and most the time you see them lazing about. Shes keeping them in line. Grimshaw is the first one to grab arthur and go get tilly from the foreman boys, not dutch, not hosea, not anybody else but grimshaw.
@@krisvqzz she killed molly because at the time, they believed molly was the rat. They had no clue it was micah (we aren't even 100% sure ourselves its micah) Molly said she was the traitor and so they got rid of her for safe keeping.
@@joodgement3388 yeah but even arthur tried to let it go and later gang interactions like when karen called miss grimshaw a murderer and how molly was in love proves that it was more or so obvious that molly was just in love with dutch and wanted attention. micah is the traitor. theres theories that abigail was the 2nd traitor but thats bs lol anyways the last time i played rdr2 was 2 years ago so correct me if im wrong
Karen’s honor is probably higher, she wasn’t a bad person, she just drank too much and it ruined her
she is neutral
Yeah there’s no way Arthur of all people has higher honor than Karen
And got fucked by Sean
No not really she liked robbing people
She robbed a bank
Molly wasn’t bad, she was broken. All she wanted was a good husband, but she couldn’t even have that.
Dude she literally stressed out Dutch more than he was even stressed and wasted all their times, like most of the gang never get to even talk to Dutch like mary-Beth and Tilly but she still did what she did, and also peole were dying and she cares about love?
@@Waltuhwituhshe wasn’t even a gang member, she was dutch’s gf
@@Harryshortsae well she gotta understand if he was stressed out, dude doesn't get to sleep 5 minutes
@@Waltuhwituh Dutch kept gaslighting her and calling her crazy, all while cheating on her with mary beth. Y'all hate on poor molly despite her being right.
@@VivianaSilverback grimshaw not Mary Beth
Uncle has the most Neutral honor of all time or high honor. He never actually commits any horrible crimes and he only kills in self defense . Uncle is a legend
He's being held back by the lumbago
I mean he does rob a bank
@@pnwfisher2144 is that all ? 😂😂
@@jayturner7145 It’s enough to mean he’s done a pretty unhonorable act
@@pnwfisher2144 Compaired to everyone he’s a saint
Jack went lowest when he got older...he talks very sus to ladies
And that's coming from his dad lol
He like old woman
@@_frogshroom_ Abigail dont care
@@Red_Morgston spoiler alert she ded
Isn't that only with low honor though?
Pre TB Arthur: Low
Post TB Arthur: High
Exactly
Honestly I think high all game works best, arthur starts the game with neutral honor
It’s either because Arthur’s redemption is saving John
Kieran Duffy was one of my favorite characters from Red Dead Redemption 2 and his death made me hate the Odriscolls more.
i genuinely cried for like 30 minutes he was just a guy who liked horses who ended up with the wrong people.. he should be at the stables not the grave
I went into their hiding place and killed them all with the tomahawk, Arthur was all red, but the blood wasn't his, it was theirs, and I killed Colm a bunch of times even though I failed the mission
@@el_pepe_99 Karen died along with Lenny along with Arthur and Sean and eagle flies and also Javier
I honestly just feel bad for the morons that play this game and assume they can be an honorable person after you do nothing but dishonorable stuff throughout the main story
Luck keitan
@@SlicerboxerSliceboxer Arthur kind of deserved what he got after getting stabbed and tuberculosis
being that he beat the dying sick man up Thomas Downs for less than $30
so i kind of see a coward that is not honorable and clearly wasted time supporting camp...
Edit:A big waste to a honor system that has no meaning obviously
Micah: Lower than minimum honor
Micah is just the devil, does he ever even sleep?
Micah is very high honor, he literally dismantled one of the most wanted gangs, lol.
@@mav1963 yeah, it depends on the perspectives
@@mav1963 Micah is a sadist like Milton. They kill innocents and they both took down a a family of outlaws
@@mav1963 I know I’m late, but don’t forget about what happened in Strawberry
"Arthur has high honor" "He has low honor" Bro Arthur has TB tf you talking about
Dude what?
what?
😆 🤣 😆 🤣
he’s saying Arthur doesn’t apply to the honor system he applies to the tuberculosis system
@@KAY4ZZ woods?
I would’ve made Arthur neutral as the player can decide if he’s good or bad.
Technically because most of them committed sins and crimes like killing , stealing destruction of property and etc even if it’s for the better most of the gang members should have low-mid honor
@@Walterwhite-fu3gc no they wouldn't cause this is a game about outlaws not about real life so the honor system is different say if u steal something u won't be and total bad character
@@Walterwhite-fu3gc bro no you know how many times arthur says we even used to help people until dutch turned corrupt. people like hosea and charles were very good people you only ever see them harming or stealing from already very bad people like cornwall and during bank robberies they only look intimidating and yell obviously to get the money, they never harm anyone that’s always arthur to the bank manager.
Cannonically the high honour ending helping John ls cannon
you're the only one with common sense, the whole comment just love arthur too much
One thing is Abigail isn't low honour. She isn't doing anything sus or evil. She's just vibing with jack in camp. She actually hates all these killings and robbings. Didn't they make a game out of it with john already?
fr like
It’s like getting mad at Chi chi from dragon ball. They just want their kids to have an actual childhood and have a good education, but are constantly dragged into wacky and deadly bullshit
@@brigidmadden5577 FR
@@Doggo_is_sus you realize these are fictional people in the creation of a video game right it's very weird and very awkward and actually kind of disturbing
@@JoeyGambella yes I know them because I know every single lore part given by the game owners.
How is Abigail dishonourable is my question and you're assuming bullshit please I had a stroke trying to understand what you said.
Reverend swanson- high honor
Also revered swanson: *attempts to steal camp money*
Well y'know he was a reverend or smthn idk he got some deals with the honor gods I guess
@@ryanhernandez8324bro 💀 he literally put drugs in his Bible
@@some_user.0l he was just like an 1899 doctor then, AMEN 🙏
@@ryanhernandez8324 what about the injections and trying to steal money from camp and alcoholic
@@some_user.0l he quits later, gets clean and starts fresh
Kieren was more innocent than a gang member but also the shortest lived one as well his death kinda left me speechless
Kieren deserved so much better he's a little sweet skrimbo
@@thallium.81 Fr :(
He is my favorite character, I wish he didn't die
He was mistreated by both the o’drisscolls and the van der lends got torture and killed he was a good kid in a bad world
@@com1k "O'Driscolls hope you know how to SPELL it
Abigail does NOT have low honor … where would this even be implied she has low honor besides bitching at John for behind a bad father ?? Genuinely confused 😂 she was a sweetheart and absolutely admired Arthur as an old brother type , I remember in the story I think it’s right after you rescue John , Abigail approaches you at camp and thanks you , they start talking about Dutch looking like he’s losing his mind and Arthur says “just be careful” and Abigail responds with “ I don’t have to be careful , I … I have you as a friend “ . Warms my heart to this day that John and Abigail admired and loved Arthur so much .
She was a prostitute and thief
She was a thief and prostitute.
Well she was a thief. Idk what to say lol. Not high honour, mostly neutral
@@fox.535 they all were for the most part
being a prostitute doesnt make you low honor you just have puritanical conceptions about how you want women to be obedient
Throughout history, Strauss really was a man of low honor, being a loan shark, but after Arthur kicks him out of the camp during the epilogue, Charles tells us that he died in prison without opening his mouth, so given his past, he is a man of low honor. msis he had his redemption
Lenny:highest honor
Hosea: maximum honor
LEEEENY
bro i was so sad when he died i wanted to stop playing and thought it was my fault but u can't save him
What about Ynnel?
@@celomentirosoReal I straight up let the next enemy kill me so I can try to kill the men before they shoot Lenny but unfortunately it's entirely impossible to save (should depend on your honor imo)
Arthur wasn't the the only who got redemption. Reverend and Kieren switched their ways and cleaned themselves up
Kieran was always good, he didn't do anything on purpose.
I don't think kieran was ever bad
So dying of TB redeems killing hundreds of people? Got it.
I can’t bring myself to doing a low honour story for Arthur. The ending of the high honour gets me every time
same
I've finally convinced myself to do it. I'm on chap 6 currently and I was saddened to not give any of the chap 6 debtors money
I end it with high honor, but spend much of the story low honor because it’s much more fun to play.
My first playthrough was basically straight high honor, but I finally managed to get a low-to-high honor run going the other day, where I “redeem” Arthur towards the end. The ideal goal would be to max out honor but if that’s not feasible, I just want to get the deer vision instead of the coyote (or wolf, can’t remember). You might want to try that since ideally it still gives you the high honor ending.
I got a low honor story but that was just because it was unintentional😂
We gave him the chance to cook, now it’s time to ban him from the kitchen
nah, let him stay. His meal is judged by others but respected by most
@@Wakalaka literally no one in the comments likes the takes
Micah bell: very low low low low low low low low honor
More like dead 🤣
@@TheOneShotKid yessir
Shawty got low low low low low low low low
@@gwibus lmao
We haver high honor, low honor, neutral honor and Micah honor
Molly didn’t do anything wrong - she actually didn’t succumb to the pinkertons, she was just drunk when she told Dutch that. She was loyal to the gang, and she stood up for herself when Dutch abused her. I think that at least gives her positive honor.
she literally didn't do anything either. like no crimes at all
@@arathearapaima7107 but she also didn't do anything to help the gang. She sat on her butt at camp like she was the best thing since sliced bread
@@arathearapaima7107 yeah she doesn’t even appear to be involved in the lesser pick pocketing that the other girls were involved in
She got the low honour for antagonizing everyone
@@fox.535 Welp cant blame her when almost everyone aside from Arthur and some of the boys didnt have any respect for her. Dutch treated her like sh1t, is clear in the game that she was just a replacement for Annabelle
Arthur has high honor, the true ending for the game is the high honor ending, that’s why it’s called redemption
yeah, hes more of an anti hero when he got TB and was a high honor man in the very end, he may have killed thousands but he also saved thousands
@@mrepical7235 hes more of an antivillian
Expanding on what you said, even though I believe Arthur was truly a good man at heart the only way he could somewhat repay the world for the things he’s done was what happened in the endings, dying for someone else (John and his family)
No matter how many people he helps and saves he will still always be in debt from the hundreds of people he’s killed and their families he’s inadvertently devastated.
To finish off my yapping session, Arthur was a good man who got roped in with the wrong people and did some horrible things, so I guess he deserved what happened on that mountain. (As the way of the west)
He is an anti villain
There are no uncanon cause rockstar never said anything
In rdr2 he killed 300+ in like at most 3 months
And he was with dutch for about 20 years
Meaning he is a professional killer and robber, making him have a low honor
i imagine hes Neutral Honor, since you have to give him a bit of a push so he'll be Angel Arthur or Lucifer Arthur
Abigail has high honour. She hasn't killed as far as her life goes. She took Sadie in after the death of her husband and she protected Jack as well as she could with the abscence of John
yeah, she only killed milton
@@Correct_Hamsterthat's a honor boost if anything
Fr she's a protective mother and a little bitter of a wife at times what fair given how john treated her and jack
Yeah she only sucked off the whole gang for money
Only got porked like 300 times by random cowpokes
I’m sorry but how does Abigail have low honor
Thief and prostitute.
The person under my commet is wack
Yeah
She slept with the whole gang 😂
She is a whore and possibly the 2nd rat
She’s a thief so more neutral
My man doesn't understand the word REDEMPTION for Arthur
Arthur was still a bad man until his death
@@mastahkiller9044Thank you for having a brain
If you kill hundreds of men, but save one man, are you forgiven?
@@mastahkiller9044 he was an anti hero, he did both good deeds and bad deeds
@@mastahkiller9044 speak for your arthur, mine never crossed the "irredeemable" line
Molly is high honour! She never talked to the Pinkertons! She was just mad and drunk!
But that act was still bad for the gang as she argued with dutch she literally simped then we have her doing nothing and getting drunk
molly is neutral because shes innocent just a bit to high and mighty
Molly is neutral honor imo:
she always refused to lift a finger to help the gang and insinuated the other girls in the gang are servants by replying “I’m nobody’s servant girl” when Arthur asks her to help the other girls. She spends all day primping herself up while everyone else works
she only wanted to kill herself by going to the camp
Abigail's top priority is clearly her son and she is an excellent mother to him given the circumstances. She never kills or robs anyone that I can remember. Sure, she has arguments with John, but given his behavior, it's warranted. What part of that is low honor?
These ratings make absolutely no sense when you actually get to know the characters and what they do.
Exactly! How does Trelawny have higher honor than Abigail? Makes no sense at all!
@@kailola827 Trelawny is a great family man if you know it, plus he always targeted rich people, which should be high honor per gang standards
Still Abigail should be high though, also Susan's was wrong for me, she did great job as secretary of the gang.
Abigail got porked by most of the gang and probably hundreds of other people for money. There’s debate that Jack isn’t even John’s son
I don't see how Abigail would have low honer
Me neither...
She is the rat actually before guarma
Maybe for ditching John , idk
@@Walterwhite-fu3gc maybe
@@Walterwhite-fu3gc I thought John ditched her and jack
I disagree. Abigail and Arthur have very good honor
Not at all, Arthur is a bad man.
@@Batbeast900Arthur also saved everyone so red dead 1 could happen he was the only one who seen sense in the end=high honor
@@dylanschafer172 And what about his past killings? The innocents who suffered from his actions? Saving his outlaw group doesn't justify it.
If he ain't a good man atleast he's a Real bro and a hero his ending was Epic he saved John and gave him a better life for him and his family
@@dylanschafer172 “saved everyone” literally 3 people directly, a few more if you count him telling people to leave as saving them. And not to mention the people he saves are criminals. Arthur kills like a lot of people, not just through players actions but in lore before the game takes place and certain people during the story. The honor meter is a gameplay mechanic, not a really measurement system, so this list isn’t honor relative to the video games narrative, it’s relative to a world of human people. Murdering 100 people doesn’t suddenly become honorable just because you feel bad about it or because you help Jack get away
Abigail, Karen and Molly got done dirty
My Arthur is maximum low honor. My Arthur becomes Jason Voorhees at night.
I do that to but at day my Arthur is a good guy and night I like to also bring out a knife and hunt some O'Driscolls
My Arthur shoots anything or anyone that ever so slitghly annoys him
For me, after the revelation of tb, arthur has the highest honor
Nah, he still killed hundreds of people and wasn’t a good person
Nope wheres your source you Arthur fanboys are so biased
You when the TB man literally massacres HUNDREDS of people but somehow isnt "honourable"
@@DeadX2 he should be neutral seeing as the player decides if he is good or bad
@@beanboozlerr Yeah no. Damn near every chapter has missions where Arthur does inexcusably dishonorable things like robbing innocents, shooting up entire towns, etc. No matter what ending you get Arthur dies a dishonorable person because of his crimes.
You forgot Micah who has NO HONOR.
He was In the 2nd part I think
Bro he dont have honor hes dead
+ He dont deserve nothin
But the actor for micah has max honor. Change my mind
Arther has one of the best character arcs I’ve ever seen definitely ended with very high honor
Arthur is super high honor
Okay horseradish foot fungus here is why. "Oh you killed 100+ people and robbed, assulted and kiddnaped AND YOUR FIRST CRIME WAS AT 12!? OOH You did two weeks of good deeds nvm you good."
No lol stop being a biased Arthur fanboy and get off his meat
@@Alvixity oh HELPING A POOR FAMILY, HELPING A DYING WIDOW, SAVING INNOCENT PEOLE (rains fall and eagle flies) CONVINCING A FAMILY TO LEAVE A VERY DANGEROUS PLACE, HELPING AN ILD FRIEND 2 TIM- oh he robbed an outlaw nvm he guilty asf😊
@@Waltuhwituh Nuh uh.
@@Alvixity anyone can have a redemption bro. The reason he is high honor is because he realised he was a bad man and he owned up to it and then became a better man not because of status but because he truly knew it was the right thing. Arthur did have a redemption and he is a good man. Every time he killed someone he always regretted it and only did it for survival.
Authur will always have the greatest honor
Yeah the greatest low honor
Damn chill bro I’m only kidding
He’s a bad man, just not a evil bad man
Charles enters the chat
Arthur Morgan’s honor throughout Chapter 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5: *LOW*
Chapter 6: *VERY HIGH*
1-3 sure. 4-6 High.
@@average__height8033 no?
@@Kexetey don’t argue with me
@@average__height8033 oh I’m so scared bro what you gonna do
@@Kexetey nah chapter 1 to 3 neutral honour chapter 4 high honour chapter 5 very high honour and chapter 6 max honour in my opinion
Because you start of with neutral honour in the beginning
practically all of Abigail’s character is being a good mom along with being a responsible friend yet she gets low honor 😭😭
Dude she literally used to get porked by random dudes for money 😂
ARTHUR HAD HIGH HONOR NOTHING WILL CHANGE MY MIND HES A WONDERFUL HUMAN BEING. AT LEAST NEUTRAL HONOR
Arthur saved everyone at the end, but he was still a murderer and thief.
He only had high honor in chapter 6.
Stf Dijon musturd crust "Oh you killed 100+ people and robbed, assulted and kiddnaped AND YOU MURDERED SOMEONE AT 12!? OOH You did two weeks of good deeds nvm you good."
John killer someone at 11, how does he get “fairly low honor?” How is he better than Arthur? He isn’t
@@hayleybbullock john wants to protect his family and he also is younger has less kills than arthur.
Arthur has high honour
No way, he killed more people than you can count
@@ausername1972 my Arthur is literally high Honor
@@rrockstarrj Yes, in game ha can have high honor but he’s actually not a good person
@@Arthurkillgore ok
In chapter 6
If we take a spin on the word honor and change it to "regard of one self" I would say that Arthur's sacrifice is more honorable and higher regarded than most actions in the whole game.
Reverend was just lost. And an alcoholic.
So happy to see he turned his life around.
Strauss is neutral for me, Loan shark was considered legal back then and he didnt force people to take the money.
While it was legal back then, Take a look at the people he's loaned money too. Especially in chapter 6. There's no way in hell those people would have a chance to pay it off yet he doesn't even bat an eye to it and even excuses it by saying the poor people are the only one who'd fall for it.
@@Rebelrose Extremely poor with no house and 70 cents in pocket, average with money to pay the debt and live - it doesn’t matter who takes money in debt. It’s legal - and that’s it. It’s their fault that they get in debt knowing they can’t return it.
@@tarantinul12whats legal and what’s honorable are two very different things
Canonically Arthur is not a good man, he’s know it. But deep down he is a kind person who goes out his way to help others but blinded by loyalty to the gang, to Dutch.
Not gonna lie the way I first played it in 2018 when it just came out and I doddnt hear any spoilers has to be the way it was intended. I played neutral cause I tried my best to be good but I wasn't sure who I was or what would happen. I always did good but u couldn't help being bad. It gives the best side dialogue about how Arthur dosnt know who he is and needs to pick a road. In the last part of the game, I raised his honor . That's Canon.
Yes
I don’t like Abigail but personally I think she had neutral-high honor. All she really wanted was a life for his son and not be involved in crime etc.
I’d think that Arthur would have high or at least neutral honor because the true ending is the high honor one
Bro omg thank you
No it isn't. The true ending is him dying. You Arthur fanboys don't get how writers do these kind of video game stories. ITS OPTIONAL. YOU CHOOSE WHAT ARTHUR GODDAMN DOES. You can't force me, Lets say I want low honor to be my canon, DEAL WITH IT
@@thechefwhodoesntcook8233Technically there is always a "redemption" in the game it dosen't really make sense low honor ending because you were a asshole with everyone, for example why would Sadie, Charles and John revenge Arthur with low honor (it happensbon the story but it dosen't feal like geniune in my opinion)
@@richardcastillos2896 Because either way, Arthur saved basically all of them.
Whether or not he was meaner, they still knew that he gave them all everything that he had
@@thechefwhodoesntcook8233 Yeah its true he save everyone in the end but that dosen't take away you were a asshole with low honor, he "indirectly" save them because it for example being lower honor means not helping Sadie in his revenge on the Odrisco , the chief of native american, as also not helping John in the end end (and if you do well it dosen't really make much sense but is a option) i am not saying that is bad being low honor i play as low honor but it make way more sense the high honor ending because it dose feel like a redemption is the same as low honor going for the money ending it dosen't make sense why at that point he would be going for the money leving John.
NGL I feel as if Arthur died with good honor.. like the second he knows he has his illness it's like his calling card for a wake up and he turns a new leaf
Arthur could have cured cancer, he’s still guilty of killing hundreds of innocents
@@justinh9674 not really.. more like you are guilty of it lmao. As a player you choose to mow down hundreds. Arther may if killed alot. But you can't say alot of them didn't deserve it
@@galaxygn0me220 It’s definitely canon that Arthur ends every gunfight with a lot of bullets. And yeah while nobody gives a fuck about the odriscolls, the pinkertons and guarma military are just people doing their jobs.
@@justinh9674 the guwarma military held them agesnt there will and nearly killed one of there own. The Pinkerton's played dirty. Kidnaped members of the gang. And did illegal activities to get some members of the gang
@@galaxygn0me220 Milton tried to cut deals with the gang time and time again. At the end of the day the are thieves and murderes hunted by the cops. And since the gang refused to cooperate they made their choice
Why is Uncle Low honor. He has been an honorable outlaw sticking with the Marstons in their hardest moments.
Cause he's still a criminal?
@@DeadX2 isn't the game about outlaws u dumb bitch?
Dude pulled these numbers out of his butt
The way I got my honor higher after doing a bad mission and killing people I would go to Saint Denis and run around greeting people on my horse
Exactly, cant fight killing people, if i did not just reload my saves or redeem myself arthur would be worse than micah
Arthur is high honor
No
No he’s not. He’s literally the right hand man in an infamous gang. Stop being biased, holy shit
@@kevinc.cucumber3697 in the most honorable gang in the west
Arthur is human, he's imperfect. The player decides whether Arthur becomes an honorable/dishonourable man by the end of the game, but it doesn't change the fact that Arthur has robbed and killed hundreds of people throughout the main story. The canon of Arthur actually having the honorable ending and the whole point of his redemption isn't him become a saint, it's him replenishing the terrible deeds he's done throughout his life by helping other people, and realising that he has in fact done horrible things his whole life and then profoundly regrets it. Arthur was introduced as killer and a thief, but then died like a brave strong man, not a saint or a necessarily "high honour" man.
@@juancarlossuarez946 so anyways, did you do a high honor playthrough?
I hate how everyone says Arthur has low honor. I think he had neutral honor, but it also depends on what the player did as Arthur.
if you do the story and help everyone without killing npcs out of the story missions you probably gonna end the game with high honor
Well he does, he has mass amounts of murder in his past, doing whatever you do in the game doesn't justify or redeem any of it.
@@Batbeast900 Arthur is a good man he tried to help eagle flies and even saved John life
Comments: “It doesn’t if Arthur only killed enemies or helped lots of people he has low honour”
Same comment section: “Lenny and Charles have the HIGHEST HONOUR POSSIBLE”
Firstly, song is Brian is the most beautiful, secondly, uncles honor wasn’t fair, you’re overlooking his terminal lumbago
damn bro kieran has high honor, so underrated
I refuse to even accept uncle having low honer. He cared for people in the gang and wasn't malicious in his dealings. He strived for happier pastures.
He still a murderer
Arthur's ranking makes sense to me, it's like he told Sister "I've lived a very bad life"... He knows he's a bad men... even without meaning to.
At the end he did all the good he could, but maybe too late...
Trelawny had high honor.
ARTHUR ACHIEVED MAX HONOR NO QUESTIONS ASKED!!!!
Arthur had max hounor on chapter 6 and 5
Yeah max low honor hahaha
Just kidding you hardcore fans
He doesnt
Really? Because my Arthur didn't. And the game lets ME AND YOU choose what Arthur's honor and ending is. Does he die from getting beaten to death or a bullet? YOUR CHOICE.
The canon ending is him dying, It's your choice how he dies in that mission
In terms of Arthur i would say that you cant tell his Honor since it really depends on the player if Arthur goes around, saving people, Helping them, or if he is just a thief killing people. So I would not give Arthur a honor there.
Arthur is a mass murderer just like every other gunslinger in the group. He kills hundreds without a second thought
this aint undertale where the characters and game acknowlege your existence. red dead has a story where you just play it. sure your actions can affect the shown story but there is only one real canon story which is the high honor ending of arthur but this video is tryna show their overall honor and arthur is overall a bad person before tb and figuring out what he will do before he dies.
Honestly, I did not like the Reverand as a character and I think he deserves neutral honor if not low. He was a hypocrite.
Yeah because reverend was a hypocrite so he deserves to be in the same honor as the murderers and robbers
To the people saying Arthur is high honour because it’s called redemption, he is either. The redemption is saving John like John saves his family in the first game and Arthur does that with high honour or low honour
In the end Strauss had high honor. For never talking about the gang when caught
That dosent mean nothing he gave money to the poor and than send another men to do his dirty work his low honor
Reverend Swanson just makes me cry
Abigail has high honor
Abigail slaps john way too many times so probably not
@@Skipium she has more honor than John himself for sure
@@OxygenH20 at least
she is a hoe
honor is about respect, in 1899 you're not going to respect a woman who's an ex-prostitute (Not that there's anything wrong with doing that, it was just frowned upon.) unless you're the one hiring her. she'd have low honor.
If purely killing people means you have low honour, then logically shouldn’t Charles have low honour as well as everyone in the gang who regularly went on missions. If you do purely what the game tells you to do and no extra, then the worst thing Arthur does is robbing people and collecting debts which was on behalf of the camp
Molly and Karen are definitely not low honor both of them have gone through a lot of in-game events that ruined their mental state
They both deserved better Dutch didn’t deserve molly and Karen was to deep in grief
Well then shouldn’t be given a pass as well for growing up being raised by killers and thieves, that probably had an effect on his mental health and state and yet he still was able to turn at the end
Karen was far my favorite RDR2 girl.
NPCs loved Sadie
Uncle is high honor he helped Johns family escape in the end of the first game
One thing doesn't rewind years of mooching off people, getting in fights, and laying around drunk while everyone else does all the work. Uncle is not a good dude.
He would still have low honor, he did it with prostitutes which is why Abigail was in camp
@@JohnnyAllan-vj7sj he's actualy good when he was abt to die he cared more for John family than his life he was good
@@JohnnyAllan-vj7sjand yet he actually cared about people and making sure they are safe when the camp was raided he was protecting the woman and children also helped people escape in chapter 6
Honor isn't based on actions in the game, Arthur's a bad man no matter what. It is based on intention and willingness to do good. The more good you do, the easier it becomes, so your honour increases.
Arthur (no TB): Very low Honor
Arthur with TB: neutral Honor
He can't have good honor because he killed too much
THANK YOU!!!!
ARTHUR IS A LOW HONOUR PERSON!!!
Literally in the last mission, he robs a train, kills innocent people, frees outlaws, kills some more people who were probably just doing there jobs, kills some even more innocent people, and then dies. The only time he starts to redeem himself is when he get TB. Also the game is called REDEMPTION. His redemption is freeing John, escaping Dutch, and letting some of the camp members free. Also (this is a choice) being able absolve and and pay back debts
FR
@@rrockstarrj they used to rob the rich but didn’t by then. You have to kill people on the train and to save Sadie. Also he was still a criminal and a bad person, he was just better than the people around him
Nah he kills the us army who were literally, killing, stealing, and r*ping Indians of their land.
He was killing bad guys, and Pinkerton’s were devils too.
I think Abigail should have neutral honor because she didn’t do anything good or bad.
Stealing?
@@justinh9674 The whole gang steal lmao, and if she steal, it’s for the gang and they’re lives
@@ldorganics So what? Stealing is stealing. If we base it of how it wotks in the game, Arthur looses honor for every crime he commits and taht would include stealing
@@justinh9674So by that logic everyone in the gang is low honor automatically bc of the number of people they rob and kill. That’s a weak argument. Abigail committed way less crimes and sins than the actual gunmen of the gang and everything she does is for Jack not herself which makes her high honor. You need to look deeper and see the characters intentions before judging them purely on their actions otherwise there’s no point to videos like this
She's an ex whore. people don't tend to hold positive opinions on prostitutes unless they're the one looking for one.
I was crying when Kieran died he got so disrespected by the gang he was to young 🕊🕊
😔
More like the RDR2 characters you like levels
dayum arthur has very high honor(bc he fixed all of his mistakes)
Now how that works it doesn't erase all the people he murdered he is a bad man and his honor is low you Arthur fanboys are so biased
@@DeadX2 Arthur is as good as the player chooses to make him...
@@giuseppepauletti2628 we're talking about the cannon kills and without the player arthur would be low honor bc of his kills in the missions
@@dark_374 bro i said this shit 12 days ago.
Uncle lost all his honor by roasting john
never rate again🔥
Arthur is more like a neutral honor than low
Agreed, his honor is ours to make
@@moonchild4789 Dude fr people don't understand that It's your choice how you want to play Arthur. Good honor endings and bad honor endings are your choice
Technically, Arthur's honor level depends on the player.
Unfortunately, Arthur's main lesson is that after revenge, sooner or later you will have to answer, neither John nor Jack understood...
Why Abigail low honor? What did she do?
She a hoe
@@speznex6969 no
@@speznex6969 shes loyal as fuck
@@kaanseyhun7041 my bad bruh. Forgot to mention "*used to be*"
Molly is a 10000% high honor she didn't snitch
which means shes a bad person
You can’t diss Red Harlow like that
red harlow is not uncle.
Honestly someone that mains Low Honor Arthur I can say originally Arthur is High Honor. From all the story,side mission, and extra dialogues in the game you can tell Arthur does not like being bad. It goes against his code which he is always on about against killing innocent people, robbing innocent people, he’s also very loyal to the gang since he loves them like family since pretty much they are his family. If you pay attention to all the main missions you can clearly see this especially when it doesn’t give you an option to make a choice the choice Arthur usually makes by himself is good.
Arthur can have low or high honor depending on how you play rdr2
yes, if you can, play it by yourself! you will love!
Arthur’s in the middle because you choose what he becomes
Arthur, is not high or low honor, he’s in the middle
Arthur’s honour really depends on how the player depicts him
Arthur Morgan maximum honor
Nope
@@Batbeast900nah like high honour
@@veddewan4704He is a murderer, thief and such, there's no changing that.
Reverend is a nice guy chapter 6, no longer drunk all the time
Molly oshea was good not a rat she did to gain attention
Arthur started an outlaw, ended a man doing the right thing (but still breaking the law to do so)
Everyone in the gang is an outlaw