@@danalynch118the argument for Aigis is it being a major focus of the movies including multiple hugs and a lap pillow. All of which are romantic in a Japanese context. The argument for Ryoji is that they're friends. That's it. Literally no reason to consider him a love interest.
And here I thought Ryoji in Reload was really funny and sweet... I love how many versions this guy has, and each of them is absolutely in love with MC, no matter if they are a guy or a girl
-he sits down in front of the station -stands up seeing someones shadow revealed by the moonlight -asked to sit down and talk with that someone -stands up after 6 seconds of silence he tries to be so mysterious and emo but instead hes just really funny. happens as well in the same movie with him and aigis after aigis runs off to find him in the middle of the night. dude just cant help but care about other people. love this dumb idiot guy.
Hmm. Frankly, he doesn't "try" to be anything. Just to interact with others as little as possible, bc he's in his "loss hurts, so I go numb again" arc. Y'know, the only defense mechanism he knew for his entire life since losing his parents to rights before this year of school? His goal is simple: distance himself, detach from life again, do as little as possible not to trigger anything painful. He's not trying to be mysterious or look cool, or act edgy. But, he can't truly go back to how he was. That's why it comes off as awkward.
Game Ryoji: there's no way I'm death! I dont want to be death, i dont want to be the reason this world dies! Movie Ryoji: I'm the reaper bitch *explodes bridge and attacks S.E.E.S*
*I love game/manga Ryoji but movie Ryoji is kinda goated for that. I love when ENFPs are portrayed as twisted and evil! Also I like how he sounds like an actual shadow during that scenel, it fits the situation PERFECTLY!!!*
There are a lot of similarities with evangelion. * Main character persona goes berserk, turns into a persona that looks like berserk evangelion. * A group of children fights against certain supershadows (angels). They have to defeat all to save the world * The last child to join the group is actually the bad guy.
@@benjamienderuyte1709 I wouldn’t call Ryoji a bad guy, he’s more like someone legitimately forced to carry out his orders despite his personal wishes.
I finished both evangelion and P3R not too long ago and I can totally agree their whole vibe what they do and who they are it all just seems so similar and the face that theyre both like a trojan horse kinda not so much with ryoji but theyre basically the same
@@misisflare5848 Indeed. :D The other reason you see me everywhere is because there are few content about these two on yt so you will run into my comment everytime. :D
@@kasunex1772in the movies, sure, but in the FeMC version of Persona 3 Portable (if you romance Ryoji) Ryoji states that he would “love you even if you were a boy”.
It would've been a good concept if you could romance male characters i t would expand the world and the fact you would be dating death/nyx woild be funny as
Honestly i never knew people shipped Makoto with Ryouji, in the game i always got the feeling more of a friend or let's be honest being another part of the protagonist. Due to the only reason Death to be humanized is because it was sealed into an human, and with Nyx being the indirect progenitor of life in the way we know on Earth in the Persona universe, it knowing about humans and how to live life as best as you can, Death took human form after being with you for 10 years and after separeting from you turned into your best friend. It's pretty poethic, and really exemplifies the themes of Persona 3 Death is not your enemy but something you must learn to live with, so you spend your days on bonds, because those are the things that truly make live beautiful, even the memeable phrase that Nyx Avatar says everytime it changes phases The Arcana is the way by which all is revealed, are actual life changing advices about how to live a life that brings value to you, every single variation. As to live is to die. Memento Mori.
Not to undermine your cool comment but when Ryoji says that he doesn't want to be Makoto's friend, he wants them to be more than that, that didn't register on your gaydar at all? Not even a little bit?
@stygian6642 honestly i don't even remember the scene. Edit: also forgot about this comment, so thanks for returning me here and giving me a chance to reread this it helped me sort out some thoughts, have a great day. It's also weird reading a good text you wrote in the past but don't remember it, it feels like you're reading something made by another person besides you.
11:06 they really need to make this its own persona. So i did. Thanatos is a greek god that is the personification of peaceful death. This design looks a lot more violent and sinister, so with a few small tweaks, let's call it Keres. The Keres were female death spirits, respresnting violent death. Similarly to the Valkyries of Norse Mythology, the Keres searched battlefields for dead soldiers. The Keres were sisters of Thanatos and Hypnos, and were described by Hesiod in the *Shield of Heracles* as "dark beings with gnashing teeth and claws and with a thirst for human blood." This has been your unwanted Persona video Mythology lesson
honestly just going thru and watching p3 stuff since the remaster is out and im broke, but i miss this game and the movies. i always liked these two together. i also like minato with elizabeth. i feel like he has good connections with more outcast characters in p3, more so than his closer friends. its interesting to me, love ryomina the best though, i think the final boss stuff really makes this ship more dynamic
Don't worry about the "remaster" it's just a port of persona 3 portable. But yeah i know that fealing Of wanting to play again. I also like Minato x ryoji.. It reminds me of kaworu from Evangelion... and his mythical phrase I was born to meet you. Because I feel that Ryoji and Minato complement each other very well
Now that reloaded is on its way, and we know the dev team was responsible for all the gay in Royal’s 3rd semester, I hope they include the relationship in the game. Kind of like how it is here, they really made Ryoji great and didn’t squander the potential like the original P3 did
So Tomohisa Taguchi, Director of Winter of Rebirth, has actually stated in an interview (Newtype Magazine February 2016) that his interpretation is "Ryoji and Makoto are in love with each other."
Actually? Male social links that got crossed out in the female route make cameos in it (fir example keisuke). So all "possible" social links are canon and exist within the universe, we just don't make bonds with them.
*Why wouldn't they exist outside of Kotone's universe??? 😭 Also Femc is canon to the Persona universe so it would make sense for them to exist on their own without her being present, Makoto just don't have a social link with them like he doesn't have a social link with Junpei and Ryoji while Kotone does.*
I don’t understand this interpretation of them being gay for each other… imo I see them as close friends but go with your head canon….? Imo Aigis X Makoto is better but that’s just me
I like Ryoji x Makoto and Aigis x Makoto. Both r good. I don’t normally ship Makoto with anyone tho, so I only like the ships a tiny bit (compared to the other ones) but their interactions can be both platonic and romantic. Really the only ship I really am into is Yukari x Mitsuru lol
Makoto is in love with Aigis, more explicitly in the films but arguably without player imput in the games, too. But of course, see two guys be close and it has to be gay to some people.
@@avelvett @ununun7012 Damn someone with an obvious bias against me isn't sympathetic to me arguing my position? Color me shocked. And yes, Aigis x Makoto is canon, esp in the movies but even in the game. Quit coping and face facts.
@@frikizone2.03 at least ryoji is gay my guy. In femc's route, he literally confessed to her that no matter what gender she is, he will always be into her. And even if somehow both of them were not gay, that didn't stop anyone from shipping them, because they had certain chemistry with each other. Remember this is a video game, we are talking about fictional characters here, so as long as its not real people there is no actual harm to anyone if people want to headcanon their ship.
I think we can rule out the possibility of ryoji liking Makoto. In P3P if you choose femc, in one his SL he talks about how he would fall in love with mc regardless if you're a boy or a girl... And I think it's not even in rank 8/9 but between rank 3 or 4
I love that this is basically just ever moment Ryoji is on screen lmao
Mfw emo guy falls in love with death itself
lmao fr
Truest statement ever for this series.
He's in love with Aigis, not Ryoji. Whole reason he lets Ryoji in is that he doesn't give a shite about him, at least not at first.
@@kasunex1772 Hmm an argument can be made for both I think
@@danalynch118the argument for Aigis is it being a major focus of the movies including multiple hugs and a lap pillow. All of which are romantic in a Japanese context.
The argument for Ryoji is that they're friends. That's it. Literally no reason to consider him a love interest.
The way Makoto starts finishing his sentences, smart
Messiah is clearly the result of Ryoji's love for Makoto and Makoto's inner self.
in other words! their lovechild!/hj
And here I thought Ryoji in Reload was really funny and sweet... I love how many versions this guy has, and each of them is absolutely in love with MC, no matter if they are a guy or a girl
This is basically Ishida Akira talking to himself and I love how gay it is
ryoji janai katsura da
zura will never get a break
ikr😂😂
-he sits down in front of the station
-stands up seeing someones shadow revealed by the moonlight
-asked to sit down and talk with that someone
-stands up after 6 seconds of silence
he tries to be so mysterious and emo but instead hes just really funny. happens as well in the same movie with him and aigis after aigis runs off to find him in the middle of the night. dude just cant help but care about other people. love this dumb idiot guy.
Hmm. Frankly, he doesn't "try" to be anything. Just to interact with others as little as possible, bc he's in his "loss hurts, so I go numb again" arc. Y'know, the only defense mechanism he knew for his entire life since losing his parents to rights before this year of school?
His goal is simple: distance himself, detach from life again, do as little as possible not to trigger anything painful. He's not trying to be mysterious or look cool, or act edgy. But, he can't truly go back to how he was. That's why it comes off as awkward.
Game Ryoji: there's no way I'm death! I dont want to be death, i dont want to be the reason this world dies!
Movie Ryoji: I'm the reaper bitch *explodes bridge and attacks S.E.E.S*
I can't believe they would do this to him 😭
*I love game/manga Ryoji but movie Ryoji is kinda goated for that. I love when ENFPs are portrayed as twisted and evil! Also I like how he sounds like an actual shadow during that scenel, it fits the situation PERFECTLY!!!*
And the actual reaper didn't even have 10 seconds of screentime
Ryoji It reminds me of kaworu from Evangelion..
Both are obsessed with the protagonist, both die fast
fun fact they have the same va
There are a lot of similarities with evangelion.
* Main character persona goes berserk, turns into a persona that looks like berserk evangelion.
* A group of children fights against certain supershadows (angels). They have to defeat all to save the world
* The last child to join the group is actually the bad guy.
D: that’s not a fun fact!
Now they even had the piano scene!!!
@@benjamienderuyte1709 I wouldn’t call Ryoji a bad guy, he’s more like someone legitimately forced to carry out his orders despite his personal wishes.
I finished both evangelion and P3R not too long ago and I can totally agree their whole vibe what they do and who they are it all just seems so similar and the face that theyre both like a trojan horse kinda not so much with ryoji but theyre basically the same
cant believe they invented gay love
this is so real
I really liked how it crammed Ryoji time with social links into the movie
Not gonna lie re-watching these movies made realize how much the movies inspired reload is pretty insane
This is one of those pairings you just need to see happy
Basically, met up, engaged, newlywedded and, old couple in two movies.
I find you everywhere, as long as those two are there lmao
And you're so real for that
@@misisflare5848
Indeed. :D
The other reason you see me everywhere is because there are few content about these two on yt so you will run into my comment everytime. :D
They aren't a couple, Makoto and Aigis are.
Ryuji is inside Minato since the brige incident so it a valid point that they're engaged lol@@kasunex1772
@@kasunex1772in the movies, sure, but in the FeMC version of Persona 3 Portable (if you romance Ryoji) Ryoji states that he would “love you even if you were a boy”.
4:47 unlike the game the anime is not afraid to make everyone gay
It would've been a good concept if you could romance male characters i t would expand the world and the fact you would be dating death/nyx woild be funny as
the way makoto says ryouji at 6:53
And then when he laughs 7:18
Honestly i never knew people shipped Makoto with Ryouji, in the game i always got the feeling more of a friend or let's be honest being another part of the protagonist.
Due to the only reason Death to be humanized is because it was sealed into an human, and with Nyx being the indirect progenitor of life in the way we know on Earth in the Persona universe, it knowing about humans and how to live life as best as you can, Death took human form after being with you for 10 years and after separeting from you turned into your best friend.
It's pretty poethic, and really exemplifies the themes of Persona 3 Death is not your enemy but something you must learn to live with, so you spend your days on bonds, because those are the things that truly make live beautiful, even the memeable phrase that Nyx Avatar says everytime it changes phases The Arcana is the way by which all is revealed, are actual life changing advices about how to live a life that brings value to you, every single variation.
As to live is to die.
Memento Mori.
Not to undermine your cool comment but when Ryoji says that he doesn't want to be Makoto's friend, he wants them to be more than that, that didn't register on your gaydar at all? Not even a little bit?
@stygian6642 honestly i don't even remember the scene.
Edit: also forgot about this comment, so thanks for returning me here and giving me a chance to reread this it helped me sort out some thoughts, have a great day. It's also weird reading a good text you wrote in the past but don't remember it, it feels like you're reading something made by another person besides you.
11:06 they really need to make this its own persona. So i did.
Thanatos is a greek god that is the personification of peaceful death. This design looks a lot more violent and sinister, so with a few small tweaks, let's call it Keres.
The Keres were female death spirits, respresnting violent death. Similarly to the Valkyries of Norse Mythology, the Keres searched battlefields for dead soldiers.
The Keres were sisters of Thanatos and Hypnos, and were described by Hesiod in the *Shield of Heracles* as "dark beings with gnashing teeth and claws and with a thirst for human blood."
This has been your unwanted Persona video Mythology lesson
Thank ypu for this❤.
Still thank you for sharing,it let me know clearly
Wanted? We NEEDED this
The movies were what made Ryoji among my favorite Persona 3 characters; that he shares the same voice as Minato is something I'll always marvel over.
14:24 just noticed that for one frame there right after using his evoker, in the initial flash you can kinda see the figure of ryoji
yes there are two flashes, first one after he says persona and the second one is the one after that
his persona was mostly like thanatos and the figure of death
In the end they're both a victim...
In the great words of Gordon Ramsey: "Finally, some good 'effing food"
honestly just going thru and watching p3 stuff since the remaster is out and im broke, but i miss this game and the movies. i always liked these two together. i also like minato with elizabeth. i feel like he has good connections with more outcast characters in p3, more so than his closer friends. its interesting to me, love ryomina the best though, i think the final boss stuff really makes this ship more dynamic
Don't worry about the "remaster" it's just a port of persona 3 portable.
But yeah i know that fealing Of wanting to play again.
I also like Minato x ryoji.. It reminds me of kaworu from Evangelion... and his mythical phrase I was born to meet you. Because I feel that Ryoji and Minato complement each other very well
Hope youve seen the bit in reload where ryoji straight up confesses to makoto
imagine being so intimate with someone and showing them fucking burn my dread -last battle- of all things. what a dork. i would never recover.
Wow I just noticed that the female route confidantes appear in the movie
Now that reloaded is on its way, and we know the dev team was responsible for all the gay in Royal’s 3rd semester, I hope they include the relationship in the game. Kind of like how it is here, they really made Ryoji great and didn’t squander the potential like the original P3 did
at LEAST give them the same amount of flirting-not-flirting that akechi and joker have
You guys are so right. P3r give us ryomina crumbs like p5r gave us shuake crumbs
Its not much, but it is kind of there lol
It would've been completely there if
(spoilers)
FUUKA DIDN'T FUCKING COCKBLOCK US
good news ryoji literally confessed to him in reload
So Tomohisa Taguchi, Director of Winter of Rebirth, has actually stated in an interview (Newtype Magazine February 2016) that his interpretation is "Ryoji and Makoto are in love with each other."
thank you so much for this compilation,,
ive watched this 58 times now.. its beautiful.
Dude the amt of times i could watch the entire movie series is unhealthy 😂 it's too good
If reload adapts any of these scenes the game is peak in my book:3
The say gex is strong with this one
4:27 mokoto just grabbing his hand is cute bro😭
Knitting each others colors 4:10
THE DETAILS I SWEAR 😭😭😭😭!!!!!!!!
This really helps and adds on to both characters.
I really gotta watch these movies again.
Makotos laugh
It’s been said before but I like how DEATH ITSELF is, in a way, Makoto’s shadow.
how does this have 40k views. glad you guys all enjoy this ship as much as i do
edit: can we break 100k views on the best ship of all time
It's 112k now
3:31 my man sounded like sonic the hedgehog’s japanese voice
also 4:00 adorable engrish of him
I love their dynamics so much. shippers ryomina never die
4:03 Rio Iwasaki (Chariot)
4:08: Saori Hasegawa (Hermit)
They female protagonis SL,
i thought they non canon to like the MC
Actually? Male social links that got crossed out in the female route make cameos in it (fir example keisuke). So all "possible" social links are canon and exist within the universe, we just don't make bonds with them.
@@antoninaforyt6928I would say the MCs just don't make meaningfull bonds with them, like to really know them.
*Why wouldn't they exist outside of Kotone's universe??? 😭 Also Femc is canon to the Persona universe so it would make sense for them to exist on their own without her being present, Makoto just don't have a social link with them like he doesn't have a social link with Junpei and Ryoji while Kotone does.*
i love neon genesis evangelion
We can date the grim reaper or the death god in the female route LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
*🗣📢RYOHAM MENTION‼️💯*
Thanks lion
Any time 🫡
Aigis a lil jelly isn't she
1:41 weird how they just let him not wear the uniform
The moment I see makoto laugh is when I break down again
TwilightKnight17, brought us here, ever since April 29, 2017 🥰🥰🥰
Both of them are so cute damn
12:48
😢
(TT . TT)
Akira Ishida Voice Actor Cast Same As Hanbei Takenaka (Basara Series) & Makoto Yuki (Persona Series)
oh boy i love blue, anxiety-free sinclair and... demian with a yellow scarf.
They're literally demisin if sinclair had depression instead of anxiety and ocd
@@repeldark exactly lol, that's why it's so easy to get ryomina fans into projmoon
Ryoji, Pharos, and Makoto has same VA
Drath work as a part timer coffie maker.......make sense
They made Ryoji another Kaworu.
Still leagues better than the original game's depiction.
0:05 me after playing assassin's Creed for the first time
Каору кун?!?!?!?
I’m feeling really unbow
Movie ryoji is game makoto
3:54
13:58
so the protagonist of persona 3 is really an emo
His design look like he come from SAO.
it’s makoto yuki🤬🤬
I don’t understand this interpretation of them being gay for each other… imo I see them as close friends but go with your head canon….? Imo Aigis X Makoto is better but that’s just me
I like Ryoji x Makoto and Aigis x Makoto. Both r good. I don’t normally ship Makoto with anyone tho, so I only like the ships a tiny bit (compared to the other ones) but their interactions can be both platonic and romantic.
Really the only ship I really am into is Yukari x Mitsuru lol
Makoto has two hands fam
I mean, Ryoji did say that he would love the MC whether they were a boy or a girl, so some form of attraction IS there
Makoto is in love with Aigis, more explicitly in the films but arguably without player imput in the games, too. But of course, see two guys be close and it has to be gay to some people.
@@avelvett @ununun7012 Damn someone with an obvious bias against me isn't sympathetic to me arguing my position? Color me shocked. And yes, Aigis x Makoto is canon, esp in the movies but even in the game. Quit coping and face facts.
Calling the ship Ryomina when the movie clearly calls him Makoto Yuki is simply being stubborn, plus shipping two men is just degenerate.
Gay people exist my child
@@phambach5337 Yes, a minority of the population, but they are clearly heterosexual characters... Imagining them like that is simply sick.
@@frikizone2.03 at least ryoji is gay my guy. In femc's route, he literally confessed to her that no matter what gender she is, he will always be into her. And even if somehow both of them were not gay, that didn't stop anyone from shipping them, because they had certain chemistry with each other. Remember this is a video game, we are talking about fictional characters here, so as long as its not real people there is no actual harm to anyone if people want to headcanon their ship.
@@phambach5337 Yeah whatever, Idrc
@@frikizone2.03 then just dont make any comment in the first place, you fucking weirdo
*le shaking atlus*
wHAT DO YOU MEAN THEY ARENT GAY FOR EACHOTHER??
Ryoji is a proud pervert first and foremost
It’s the Yu x Yosuke and Joker x Aketchi dilemma all over again.
I think we can rule out the possibility of ryoji liking Makoto. In P3P if you choose femc, in one his SL he talks about how he would fall in love with mc regardless if you're a boy or a girl... And I think it's not even in rank 8/9 but between rank 3 or 4
stupid ship, makoto x ryoji bc they are straight as fuck
@@eca_pe romantic social links start mechanically in ranks 4-6, that's where the confessions happen and you start dating.