DISCUS WORLD RECORD HOLDER | Jürgen Schult Discus Analysis
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DISCUS WORLD RECORD HOLDER | Jürgen Schult Discus Analysis 
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One of the most helpful videos you’ve posted. Thanks you so much!
Wow! Thank you! 🙏🙏🙏
Excellent to highlight the keys of efficient technique...
Exactly what I teach.. the moving/turning of the feet.. when the left is turning it continues to turn and when the right is on the ground it is now turning turning turning. There was a slight hesitation with his right caused by the unbalanced or slight fall backwards.
Very cool 👍
He was also a Eastern Germany athlete not disrespecting his talent, but probably PEDs were also involved.
there is a good amount of proof to that.....PED were part of the GDR success story.
It's amazing how he does it!
I believe additional influence, a part of the equation, is the thrower's left arm...how it starts extended, manages the balance, retracts (tenses up) very slightly through middle and then retracts fully (left fist comes to chest) and quickly prior to release of the discus. It's so quick that you can barely see it, but consider it...pulling in the left arm is increasing centripetal speed and force around his center of mass at the last fractions of a second prior to release.
Great stuff! Very insightful!
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Hey John... good analysis. One thing that has me saying "hmmm" is after he lands his right (out of the back) it looks like his left kind of spins around a bit to the front, not shooting through (almost touching knees). I would have thought once you land right, the left leg should shoot through almost touching knees, foot almost dragging on ground, to get it through to the front of the ring as fast as possible. Also, it looks like (at 6:38 or so) his left lands with him opened up a bit. Usually I teach the idea of landing as quickly as possible but also with the left pointed back a bit more so you are more wound up and thus have more torque/twist in the upper to come around more. Besides agreeing on his work out of the back, the speed at which his arm comes around till he releases it is insane. Honestly, besides the continuous turn and balance he has, that incredibly fast whip and as you said working the right side hard as he releases is ridiculous! One thing you touch on which I forget to talk to my throwers about is the speed moving across the ring. I usually talk about going slow out the back, separation between the knees and then speeding up after you land the right foot, shifting weight from left leg to right leg, but staying low to use that right leg to explode up and outwards.
Hey Kevin! Good to hear from you! In general, I think it is good to teach athletes to shoot the left foot through to get it down as fast as possible. I think Shult gets away with "not" doing that because his lower body is working as a single unit. His hips are so strong and his turn on the right foot is so fast that the left foot gets down just as fast. It's also good to note that even the greats don't do things perfectly and I suppose no one ever will.
It's important to stay focused on the goal (throwing farther) and not being too caught up in the strategy (how to achieve the goal). This frees the athlete and coach to figure out for themselves what helps the athlete throw farther.
As much as I believe in good technique, I do not believe there is only one correct technique. As long as the discus continues to go farther we can be happy! 💪
Great question!
@@johnbowmandiscus Very good points John. I just wanted to ensure I wasnt teaching a bad habit, but good to know that the overall goal is to get the foot down fast.
@@b3owu1f For sure!
What would be interesting here is to calculate the centripetal force on that last swing. All you need is the length of his arm with accurate reference points and be precise on the time. Do that and compare it to other athletes.
Even the smallest details in technique took him years of practicing to perfect them. I have been a discus thrower for 15 years, Juergen was and is the epitome of strength, elegance, technique and physic
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This was cool but probally the two best discus throwers in the last 10 years in robert harting and Sandra Pekovic both have the "hitch" in their left foot coming out of the back. Their left isn't continuous like you seem to say it should. Yet other greats do it like jurgen. Is there really an advantage to do one or the other? What do u think? I guess I don't understand the advantage.
Yes, I believe having a smooth turn out of the back makes entering the front half of the throw easier. I teach this because this is what my coach (Coach V from Global Throwing) taught me. Even Gerd Kanter had a "hitch" out of the back, but that doesn't mean It's what we should try to do it. In the case of world-class throwers, they all move through the ring well and some can get away with the "hitch" but I don't think it is useful to teach throwers to do it on purpose. I used to do it on purpose because Gerd Kanter did it and it was the first thing the Coach V had me work on. Its so important because the success of the whole rotation depends on how we turn on out of the back. Great question 👍
@@johnbowmandiscus What is the "hitch" exactly?
I requested , you presented . Thankyou sir 😘😀😀👍 . Great vedio
You're welcome!
@@johnbowmandiscus can you do discus analysis for college athletes like me
@@coreygilbert6920 Absolutely! You can learn more at my website: bowmanthrows.com/video-analysis
centripetal force
70% of the success of the throw comes from the start at the back of the ring. And his discus technique is designed to maintain this momentum through the entire throw to finish.
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he doesn't sweep to center, rather to the short side of center. nothing good happens when you land that right foot to the left of center. Perkovic also does this, landing shy of center. and yet this works in conjunction with getting off the left sooner and getting it to the front sooner without losing separation
i'd like to see ron dayne throwing the discus
Are lefties turning is the other sens?
He actually kinda under rotating his left foot in the back of the circle