Forza Motorsport 3 Marked An Evolution For Racing Games
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2022
- Forza Motorsport 3, despite releasing on the same console as its predecessor, reworked its ground mechanics and fundamentals quite a bit. Were those changes for the better? Let's have a fresh look at the game.
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Forza motorsport 4 is like gran turismo 4 of the gran turismo games. Both were the peak and marked an end of a generation/era.
@@purwantiallan5089 ngl I like playing Gran Turismo 6
ironically, i enjoy the even-numbered games more 😅
@@greninjaartistsenpaiGran turismo 6 is awesome. I don't know why people shit on it so much. GT5 is way worse
I've bet FM4 but FM3 feels more nostalgic to me, what i'm attracted to most is the way superior art-style and front cover. 1:25 Look at the play button, only GT4 could match that amazing game art.
I feel FM4 perfected the balance of "hand-holding" for casuals just wanting to race new cars for free but also allowing hardcore racers to pick through the event list, choosing what cars you wanted to race/buy. Also the incentive to turn off assists/racing line [and rewind ;) ] and earn more credits. The affinity bonuses meant free upgrades for nearly any car you raced a few times which often seemed too easy but then again many of the more exotic cars in the game are quite expensive :)
Easily the best game in the franchise. Wish you could buy it on the Xbox one Microsoft store
@@uknlogic2924 they don't want you playing Forza Motorsport 4, they want you spending $$$ in Horizon...
a shame 4 removed fixed difficulty options, and the credit bonus based on driving preference
Man i miss when racing games had random ass commuter cars in their roster
And holy shit 27:30 caught me off guard, this is the last place id expect to hear that song
yeah i spent most of my time on those commuter cars. now it's so hard to get something similar to what i drive daily... which a 1,6 ton 240hp awd v6 small suv thing (mitsubishi outlander gt)
@@GraveUypoFM4 and the Mitsu Colt baybeeee
3:51 "i am not a painter i am an artist"
Angry mustache man ca. 1907
So are you planning to play every Motorsport game?
Haven't decided yet if I should check out 5-7. Maybe later 😄
@@DustinEdenYT do it
Where Civic EM1 exist and not in Horizon franchise sadge
@@DustinEdenYT cant wait for that ,😂 Hopefully i have time to join the stream itself if you happen to play them.
@@DustinEdenYT 6 is good too
FM3 was huge when it came out. Great memories.
ah, finally, a content creator who's finally making a video of fm3, you're legendary edna
FM3 was another solid entry in the series. I think Forza Motorsport 4 is the peak of the series though, hope you make a video on that also. I started playing it again on a 360 I got from a friend and having tons of fun even though the DLC is unavailable. Disc 2 has plenty of extra content.
Lately I've enjoyed playing it like Project Gotham Racing. Turning off opponent "upgrades" on certain races and finding a good un-upgraded competitive car to match the other stock vehicles. For example the racing class events always suffered because of the already fast racing cars now given +150 hp by removing restrictor plates. I had lots of fun yesterday doing the Asian R3 races with a stock Viper Comp. Coupe run with extremely low downforce. The Asian GT cars were much faster in corners/braking but I could pull away easily with the 8 L V10 :D
@oli gordon yeah but I prefer the tyre physics in 4, IDK...
@oli gordon Forza Motorsport 3 Ultimate Collection is actually missing 3 DLC packs, the Pre-Order Car Pack (all the pre-order cars from various places put into one DLC pack from when Forza Motorsport 3 first released) and the VIP Membership Car Pack they didn't have an excuse for as they were already released before Forza Motorsport 3 Ultimate Collection. For the last one Turn 10 decided to pull a fast one and release 1 final DLC pack after Forza Motorsport 3 Ultimate Collection was released, which was the Community Choice Classics Car Pack.
On top of that Turn 10 decided to do the absolute BS of releasing 2 DLC Car Packs with 3 cars each (Stig's Garage Car Pack and Ultimate Collection Car Pack) that could only be got it you bought Forza Motorsport 3 Ultimate Collection, so even if you bought all the DLC released for the game on the Xbox 360 store you wouldn't have access to all the cars without buying an entire other version of basically the same game again.
In order to have everything you had to buy the game on day one, buy the season pass, buy the VIP membership, buy the other DLC that wasn't part of the season pass as it released (which was actually more cars than was in the season pass), buy Forza Motorsport 3 Ultimate Collection and then buy the last DLC they released after that. You had to do it quick once all the DLC was released too as they not long after that delisted all the games DLC without giving anyone any notice at all, as they didn't even bother to mention that they were delisting all the games DLC until after they already delisted it.
So after all of that BS this "ultimate collection" is actually missing 21 cars if you have all of the DLC actually released for the game on the Xbox 360 store. The Forza Motorsport 3 Ultimate Collection caused alot of deserved backlash during and after it's release due to Turn 10's handling of it and the quite frankly BS anti-consumer decisions they made and really showed how gready Turn 10 could be. I strongly believe all this BS is what lead to Forza Motorsport 4 not selling as well as Forza Motorsport 3 (by about 1 million, nearly all of which was a loss in USA sales) as the fan base was completely done with Turn 10's BS at that point.
I don't think fm3 was a solid entry, or even anywhere close to that. It spoiled the soundtrack, it was bad for other games, not just the quality but the amount of them. Anything in the game takes way to much money, while grinding is long and boring, cars are slow, not too many customizations, and the shit brakes made the game the worst fm. The graphics is good and bad at the same time, some maps are flat, textures blury af.
Oh, and the physics will force spin you out if you try to drift. Making drift cars isn't even balanced. Like why the Ford Fiesta so op with 4wd in drift?
Or in normal race, that Mazda le mans car with the i4 in it op, but the Wankel engine swap makes it 800kW strong from somewhere 450 with the original engine, and still goes as a beast?
Abs isn't working, mostly because I stop faster without abs, while the wheels are blocked, and ASM will always blink for no reason.
In the list, there were some competitors, but the major one is the GT4 at that time, and still, it's a better game, no matter what they make for standing on top.
It is a really bad downgrade from FM2, in terms of anything, only on the amount of cars maybe, but it won't would save anything.
@@justagamerhun2228 respect your take, looking back FM2 was much better and more ambitious
@@t3hgir The FM3 was the first FM gam e what I played, I'm a Gran Turismo fan, but I'm neutral with that motorsport war, I don't think any side is better, but after I played FM3, it was clear it is a bad game. Textures are much blurier than its competitor ON PS2, and it's physics, I don't lie if I say the first point when i felt fast was somewhere at Mulsane going with 400 with a full upgraded RX7 without motorswap. 100 felt slugish, 200 felt like I took a slow turn and I'm accelerating right now, 300 was maybe fast, but a Lime roller felt faster in a straight line. It isn't just a step back.
This was when I felt like Forza had finally matched Gran Turismo! I remember pre ordering this game and loving it! I still play this and Forza Motorsport 4 quite a bit. They really hold up well! 😊
Forza was better imo then, more tuning capabilities, better lookin cars, interiors. GT needed to keep up with FM.
For now i like Gran Turismo more then the newer forza games
@@Mo0shii , I wish that Nintendo would make their own version of Forza Horizon/Motorsport, Gran Turismo, Tourist Trophy, Suzuki TT Superbikes, Enthusia Professional Racing, and/or Test Drive Unlimited 1/2/Solar Crown, and with as much effort as well for that new franchise.
@@paxhumana2015 yeah i can't for Solar Crown to come out, finished tdu1 and2.
@@Mo0shii yeah honesty the last entry in each of forza branches were pretty bad. i don't like horizon 5 or fm7
@@Mo0shii have you played the tdu platinum overhaul mod yet? it adds all kinds of new cars and features
FM4 really balanced everything bad with FM3. Really good economy and every level up gives you a choice in what car you unlock next, and they're all themed instead of just "here's a random gift car for leveling up". Making me wanna replay it again right now
I love Forza 3. Sadly you missed the best part of this game.... But first the cons.
I agree with the career progression. In that regard FM1-FM2 are the best in the series. The other thing that sucks is as you realized upgrading your car gets EXPENSIVE. Being gifted cars allows bad drivers access to faster stuff but you don't really earn it. Playing the game purely in solo means a lot of grinding. And like you said it's harder to sort cars. (There are some little tricks to figure out what all the turbo cars are or sorting all the v8 engine cars together but it shoulda been easier). The other bad thing is you absolutely need the dlc and other added content or you're missing 2/3s of this game.
Alright bad stuff outta the way.
What YOU missed out on was online multiplayer. That's what absolutely made this game at legendary level.
Custom matches, tag mode, multi-class racing, making money while online, cars you could buy in auction house that were only given if you met a developer of the game..OH YA and turn 10 used to play with the players online MONTHLY. And they would hand out what we're known as Unicorn cars. Exclusive cars you couldn't buy anywhere. Online storefront where if you clicked on a gamer profile you could see every single paint and tuning setup they ever made. It was great if you had a favorite artist and wanted to collect all their work or a favorite tuner all their tunes.
And of course the rest of the pros are self explanatory. More cars, tracks, better graphics and physics, etc.
Forza 3 when it was alive was a 9/10 now it's a 7/10.
I personally believe the next game FM4 is just as fun as FM2. But most people prefer FM4 just cause it's newer and has more stuff. But I'll let you decide :)
Can't wait for next video!
I never really had to grind tho.. if anything the game was super easy after revisiting it. Had a surplus of over 2 million after finishing the final few events in the main progression
My first ever Forza and the last one where you can still acquire all the DLC (except the Community Choice Pack) since the Ultimate Edition includes a DLC Bonus Disc (FM4 and later had Codes instead).
Fantastic memories of using a Ford V8 Supercar to beat up Ford Ka's since one of the event restrictions was only limited to Fords lol.
I still need to go back and finish my Playthrough of this and 4.
Forza Motorsport 3, Gran Turismo 5 and Forza Motorsport 4 have landed a mark in the Racing Simulation genre.
Forza mororsport 3 meant everything to me it got me into xbox and changed what I thought an online community could be. I was in a drift crew at 12 and I made a couple close friends it was everything I miss theses days
I ADORE THIS GAME. This was the game that got me back into racing games.
The unique thing that Turn10 had over Polyphony
1. is car damage, making racing unpredictable and exciting
2. Tuner manufacturer cars like TOMS
My wishlist for the new Motorsport is the return of Tuner Manufacturer cars, but expand it. Not just JDM specials, but imagine Ring Brothers Charger, Singer Porsche, Spoon Type R etc.
The 4:21 mark was the deciding factor for me to like this video. It's great when content creators have fun making these edits
I think the games nowadays are built to just hook whales, or be a disposable experience. When FM3 launched it didn’t leave my 360 for months.
I played the demo of FM3 for months before launch trying to get faster and faster laptimes vs my friend :)
I miss all the hatchbacks. The selection of tracks on FM3 was amazing.
3 was my first “real” sim racing game and I fell in love with it. I really wish more games would give you the option to shift with a clutch. Feels more responsive
My first fm game, and the absolute best, it was my second racing game on the 360, behind Burnout paradise, and i remember i got tears on my eyes because of the intro lol
> Introduces the video/game with saying that Turn 10 wanted to differentiate Forza more from Gran Turismo
> Starts the game with a Gran Turismo meme
The whole reward car and such really is my biggest grievance about Forza from this point forward. The frequency of level ups, easy credit gains, and lack of truly special vehicles definitely put the game down a bit. I do enjoy the games though, especially FM4, but man it's lost a bit of shine from FM/FM2.
12:00
That guy is right, if you go to Assisi you can actually follow the layout of the track. Costa di Amalfi is a fictional layout.
I miss being able to buy a Yaris or Prius and mod the hell out of it. The removal of "normal" cars in Forza is the reason I rarely play it anymore. Maybe if they bring that back I'd pick it back up-- but...
damnn the nostalgiaaa. THAT BACKGROUND SONGGG AHHH
Love your videos as of recently, keep it up!
I love your editing style. You can make anything interesting to watch
I’m getting my 360 down on Saturday to play FM1, I’m excited as hell
bro i don't know how i found your channel but i don't like any other racing game youtuber. i really appreciate how you don't just yell through out the video and you are a genuinely interesting person to watch, been here since 12k, will stay until 1 million. you're the best man
Nice vid Eden!!!
Looking forward to the project of PSP racing games😊
This is literally the only game I re-bought for 360 and I still love it. It even made me drive better, i figured out how to throttle control when i revisited it.
17:00 your coming at us with the dumdididumdidideedee
29:07 Did I just saw the "inversion"? KEK
"Why is the dashboard in the middle??"
Literally every Citroen and Mini car: "daddy chill"
You know, I honestly expected Forza 3 to look like 4. I love the tracks in Forza 3. And this game has something special I always loved. When you, for example, start a race, gain 1st place and go out of the game and not clicking anymore when the table of the race results come up and wait, the table will go away and the computer still races your car. In replay camera mode. So you can sit back and see if the computer can keep your 1st place. I always found that so interesting.
I can never find these videos on twitch. I look everywhere and can’t see it
Have you ever played the Project Gotham series? Would love to see your take on PGR4, the first game with a cockpit camera I ever played.
I also want your opinion on the unicorn cars, especially the Sledgehammer :)
"I don't need upgrades, i got skill"
-Dustin ChadEden
Also 9:53
Really nice video, enjoyed watching it!
looking forward to your fm4 video
THIS is one of my three (late) childhood racing games, along with Burnout Paradise and NFS Most Wanted ‘12 (very late childhood). When I played FM4 for the first time, everything is just next level.
15:45 Me, singlehandedly causing GT4's economy inflation by flooding the market with Toyota RSC Rally Raid cars.
Fun fact the difference s in Camino viejo de Montserrat between f3 and f4 are huge they added mountain vistas lakes and waterfalls in 4 the actual circuit remaining unchanged.
YEEESSS this is the one I grew up with, no one ever talks about it
I remember playing this at my grandma's house as a kid
Fm3 menu song was crazy too
Lovely game! I played it when my Xbox 360 was working, both this, Forza Motorsport 4 are pinnacle of XB 360's hardware potential.
I’m really impressed by this, it looks like it at least matches GT5. The environments look wayyy better especially the mountain circuits and stuff like that which aren’t just basic racetracks. The cars look great too and it runs at 60fps and supports 720p with 4xMSAA or 1280x1080 with 2xMSAA. It also runs better with less tearing than either of the PS3 GT games, despite having superior lighting (although the roads are too shiny sometimes). I do think the game looks better in 720p than it does in the 1080p mode here, though.
If you like this game you'll love Forza Motorsport 4 ! It is widely considered the series' best.
At least I'm not the only who the coast track reminds of the two Costa tracks from Gran Turismo 4 then! I did a lot of this game with that Peugeot and the Lancia Delta HF before I got the Peugeot LMP1 car, the 908 HDi FAP! I used that one a LOT in this game! What does the "FAP" stand for anyway? I get HDi, that's pretty obvious! (I know a bit of French, though, as well!)
This is probably Forza who has the best sound and the best driver's mechanic for me.
When you play all the Forza's (Streets and Apex not included......), you could draw up a list of what you consider each best aspects, so that if you put them together, you'd create a "perfect Forza".
Forza 3 was my favorite back in the day
I found out how to use disk 2 after owning the game for 6 years and going back to it. 😅
Gran turismo: fuck environments and money, you get nothing jajajajaj
Forza motorsport: you get everything except search filters, enjoy.
You've just summarized them these days, with both being the opposite of old times, although GT has gone overboard with its microtransactions.
This is one of my favorite Forza Motorsport games on the Xbox 360!
Even as how I played every GT game that I did the License stuff with all gold and got good cars from those. Even they sure were own challenge (to me at least) but the campaign itself was always easy afterwards. Especially GT3 and 4 as those are the most what I played.
Cant wait for FM4 review
Well at that time the bar wasnt that high, but comeback a sequel and thats a world of difference
The "Celica Supra" makes sense as the Celica is the older model and "Supra" is just how Japanese people sound when trying to say "Super" (the Japanese NEVER end their words on a consonant). The "Super Celica" was a car for years before Toyota eventually made the "Toyota Super" its own car.
You can fully use the same search features from FM2, it's just a little convoluted: you go to buy car, then search, then press X for show all and then X again for car list. No idea why they had to do it like this.
BTW the game is definitely NOT showering you with money, quite the opposite in fact, it's just not apparent at first. All of the event payouts are significantly less than what you get from similar events in FM2 - an endurance race in FM2 pays out more than twice as much than the FM3 counterpart for example. Not to mention that the cars in FM3 are a lot more expensive - up to 57 times(!!!) as much for the most expensive car (20 mil for the 250 GTO in FM3 vs 350k for an LMP in FM2). The 4 most expensive cars in FM3 together cost almost as much as all cars from FM2 combined. And all of that on top of not getting any price cars from events. Combine all those things together and you have imo frankly the worst economy in any Forza game. Good thing they came to their senses with FM4 and started giving you bonus money for manufacturer affinity and driver levels 51-150.
Currently playing all the events in this game, almost done after many many hours
God I grew up playing fm3
That Mazda 2 is essentially just a fiesta with some different panels.
The captions at 15:43 said grand cherose module
the Celica Supra (if not told already by someone in the chat) is a thing, the first two generations of Supra were variations of the Celica, from the Supra A70 onwards, it became a standalone model
Best game in the series
I really miss when FM had proper career modes. Also I miss so many of those tracks. Camino Viejo was one of my favorite tracks. I want it come back to Forza so much.
I liked that you could keep the same car for a while if you wanted or you could jump to a new car. It had more choice than the current FM where you can only get a new car. It made me feel like my career path was my own.
I agree i hope they make it the new Forza Motorsport a little more grindy not GT7 grindy but not make everything easy they could make a good balance between grind and fun
@@suntannedduck2388 i agree i hope they figure it out i hated the career in FM7 i think they might figure it out i would say they are going to try something different considering they are rebooting the franchise i hope they make it more simulation this time though they have the horizon series for the arcade shit and they need to figure out some decent matching system to keep the rammers away from peoe that wanna race i hope they do something like iracing has they have a really good matching system i hate there monetization model and refuse to pay them a subscription and then have to buy cars and tracks at $12 a pop but they do do the online system really good idk im excited to see what they end up bringing to the table
Gutes video bro xD Ich hab Forza Motorsport 2 und 5 und 7 gespielt :D aber actually 5 dann 7 und dann 2 lol
Natürlich die horizon games auch
literally downloading FM4 again because of the level of nostalgia this video gave me.
I have the special edition which came with usb stick n keychsin
This was my first Forza game ive ever played.
Forza never beat Gran Turismo. Imitation is the highest form of flattery.
Maybe in your dreams, X360 FMs easily beat PS3 GTs
If you make a video on Forza Motorsport 4, maybe you should race in a Suzuki Liana, or a Kia Cee Apostrophe d.
Forza Motorsport 3 and Gran Turismo 5 are both pretty good games though plus they're much more realistic than any racing games on the Nintendo Wii, Nintendo DS, PlayStation Portable, mobile phones & Zeebo.
Such a great Forza Motorsport game I ever played since I own a Xbox 360
“Mazda 2 DUB edition”
3:34 wait the Tiida is a Versa? *W A T*
What emulator did you use?
The best part of FM3 for me was when my friend logged in and they had 999,999,999 credits and so he bought cars off the auction house from our friend group for 100,000,000 each 😂😂
Awesome video my friend! Love motorsport series! Have a beautiful day/evening! Support with a big like 😃💯🔥👍💟
GT made you study car parts and understand performance improvements. FM3 just said “here you go”.
Yeah, FM3 was the final nail in the coffin for Gran Turismo, and they never recovered.
Gran Turismo can still not top the FM3 quality, it's getting really sad right now.
Yo. You gonna play Trailout soon?
How do i dump xbox 360 bios bruh i got one im tryna do that
FM4 was the perfect Forza Motorsport. Can’t wait to see that video
18:36 .....yep that looks like a death and torture sandwich
This is when FM totally converted me over from GT. All it took was 2 words, motor swap!
I owned both games when they came out and still play them regularly. GT5 doesn't look worse than FM3 unless you pick a standard car on a GT4 HD track. Pick a premium car like a Ferrari F430 on a track like the Nurburgring or Special Stage 7 with weather effects and GT5 is miles ahead.. It's just that in general Forza is more flamboyant while GT prefers the realistic approach. But yes, backgrounds are usually better on Forza (maybe because the game has to render less cars?).
Edit : Yes, the Supra started as a Celica variant.
I love FM3, Childhood game
You can compare FM3 to COD4 aka MW1, they both released in 2009 and were PEAK graphics at the time
I wanted to play Forza Motorsport 4 but I think my disc is damaged. It crashes on one of the first few tracks and trying to install it to the HDD on my 360 crashes as well
I assume there isn't a way to "install" the files from a PC without a modded Xbox 360, right? Like copying files to the drive and Xbox would pick them up? I don't have a friend from whom I can borrow a copy to install the game sadly.
The game is really cheap pre-owned now
Awesome game :) It's a shame that the arcade type mode is limited to time trial and 2/3 lap races...if you could create you're own races (lap count, opponent count, tyre wear etc) it would be a 10/10 game.
I wish they let you keep the dlc cars as they are now all locked since the game no longer has online.
28:41 i thought that somehow i accidentally turned on tts
Love your Videos
Grüße Uzinq :D
Ahhh my favourite Forza ever, absolute banger of a game.
What is the name of the song that plays on background at 28:00 and goes on?
It's called "Keeper of Lust" from the Persona 5 soundtrack
@@JamVar thanks man
@@Simba-ed5ll No problem!
To be honest, I've always loved Forza Motorsport 3, mainly because of the graphics for the game, the cars and some of the tracks.
I even liked the feature of the auction house to buying and selling cars between players, even car's that have been customized by other players from using the feature to apply decals to your car.
However, what is really disappointing is that the developers chose to only release the game exclusively for the Xbox 360, which I will mention if I remember requires Xbox LIVE Gold membership to access online features, which I don't have due to living in a poor family.
In my opinion, I think all games should always be released to both platforms for both console and pc, as not everyone plays on both systems, especially now since because of the rising costs for pretty much everything, so for most people can't buy a console while for others can't buy a good enough pc, or in some cases, some people can't get both.
I would of loved to have a pc version of the game because I had a lot of fun with it when I first started playing it on the Xbox.
Along side that for all games need to have a very wide verity of graphic options in the settings to match any computers hardware performance since not everyone can afford a good enough computer or the parts necessary just to run and play a game of interest, basically a lack of low graphics options for decent or low-end computers.