Hekapoo is Not a Good Person! (Star vs the Forces of Evil Video Essay)
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Her most consistent character trait is her cowardice. WHenever things go wrong she always picks the option that lets her run awayy and escape. Even letting star destory magic was her simply running away by dying.
You got a point there…
Can't argue there when Marcos team tried to fight Meteora she tried to bail but couldn't get away in time, f*cking coward.
The ending of destroying magic always confused me honestly. The pony head's for instance literally can't exist without magic, and yet after magic was destroyed they were alive and well. many of the magical creatures were (after the portal exploded) just flying around. So it seems weird to me that the ones made out of pure magic also didn't survive.
@@chaosdirge4906 I assume they all died painfully shortly after.
@@chaosdirge4906 destroying the magic was stupid. Like you said a lot of magical creatures still existed and clearly had magic. But also it’s a lot of problems getting rid of all magic. Just kill Mina with the Spell That Has No Name.
Throw the wand into the magic dimension so no one can use that again. But keep the magic so people don’t die. We don’t like the magical high commission but Omnitraxus is like some kind of guardian of space time! What happens to the multiverse if he’s dead?
If it were me, just disband the commission, create a new council with representatives from each kingdom, tell the kingdoms of Eclipsa’s TRUE story, and then get rid of the wand like I said before. 2 kingdoms would live beside each other, Mewman and Monster. No displacement of either. Globgor and Eclipsa will represent 2 peoples coming together. You can’t force people to like each other but hope future generations can move forward together, letting go of the past.
I mean after season 4 almost everyone wasn’t a good person. Star the genocider, Marco the heartbreaker, Moon the neglectful and arrogant, the Head who must stop breathing. Only good characters at the top of my head are Tom, Eclipsa and River
Meh, them 3 are not good. They're just not bad.
There's a huge difference. A character that is not bad is only that because it did nothing (Eclipsa and Tom actions are non-existent in S4, everything is carried out by Star). They have some cute moments here and there but that's all.
River is the same but since season 2.
Don’t forget Jenna.
I agree. Eclipsa is still great. Wish Globgor was release at the beginning of season 4 and get more episodes with him. It was a miss opportunity. Season 4 was trash
Don't forget Buffrog.
How bout Kelly, does anyone think Kelly was a good character in season 4, because I have no idea
The entire MHC is full of terrible people. But this has more to do with the writing. They especially butchered Rhombulus. He went from a very sympathetic loser, that actually had the most conscience out of them all, to a one-dimensional, stupid monster racist.
Preach
Not to mention the writers decide to kill them out at the end of the series
@@animezilla4486 I cried a little bit when he died, it was so bad that I wished that he came back for the season 3 not Glossarck (I hated him).
I agree, the writers of season 4 ruined everything!
Yeah i feel like rhombulus was originally going to have a redemption arc and help out star, but heckapoo became a lot more popular than they realized. So, the writers swapped the two roles and heckapoo ends up as the good one
I always felt like she was forced into a role originally set up for Rhombulus, who is heavily foreshadowed to be the "token good teammate" as TVTropes would call it, just because she was popular with fans.
I think you have a point. That is the worst thing a writer could do, that they change the roles of a character for the sake of popularity.
That and as Rick Sanchez puts it: sex sells
Uhg yes! Rhombulus was clearly the nicest member of the Magical High Commission yet he suddenly turned into a jerk and yet Heckapoo who was willing to die to keep the secret of replacing Meteora is apparently the "good" one.
@@Nonjola well the creator outright said she enjoyed messing with the Audience with ships so I’m not surprised she changed her entire story to fit the audience’s desires
Or what she believed the audience wanted
@@ma.2089 yeah, rhombus was cooler with the snakes stuff
Honestly? I think Hekapoo was never meant to be a good person. She's just a product of Glossarick being Glossarick and her just doing mostly whatever the hell she wants outside of her duties. And by "whatever the hell she wants" I mean exactly that.
Plus, trapping a 14-year-old boy in a dangerous dimension in which time runs a lot faster than in any other dimension until he grew into his early 30s for shits and giggles isn't something I would say a good person would do.
This. She basically tortured Marco for decades.
Seems slightly exaggerated considering Marco choose to do it and she would have let him run back home if he admitted defeat.
@@DeadMech1 Maybe. But the burning scalp of her constant slaps on the head plus her taunting is something she could have not do during that.
She was enjoying tormenting him during that time.
@@DeadMech1 And she chose to be brutal. That was not neutral. Plus she never did such things to Star nor Ponyhead.
@@GokuMcDuck I mean, the explanation was that Ponyhead somehow stole the scissors from her. But since she’s Ponyhead, for some reason she gets off the hook scot free, she never gets punished, Marco did.
Can you believe some people like Ponyhead?
Just saying. They could have gone to Heckapoo's home dimension and had YEARS to think of a plan. But no. Hide out in a fucking bar
Now i'm thinking about Festivia founding out she was not a Butterfly after her death, imagine dying and going to the Queen afterlife in the wand, and you try to talk with your "Grandma" and her brother (Solaria and Justine) just to discover your whole life was a lie and you were a peasant and a tool for an anti-monster conspiracy.
Yikes
Hekapoo did horrible acts. It wasn't magic that was the problem. Hekapoo and the MHC made these bad choices and refused to learn from their mistakes. Saving Star and the others didn't completely redeemed Hekapoo. She committed so many lies for centuries and ruined so many lives because she and the other MHC didn't want a monster to have magic and to be treated as equals.
I mean, a character doesn't necessarily have to learn from their actions BUT, don't portray them as "the good guy" in any scenario, protray them as morally grey or the "bad guy".
@@hughjanus2066 Kitty Monk is right. Hekapoo help out at the end because Mina wasn't following the plan. Hekapoo didn't stop and reflected on her actions and realizes that she made terrible mistakes.
@@AH-is5yg I don't disagree with Kitty Monk on this, I'm just saying that they either did it wrong with their approach to the "she was never supposed to be the good guy" or their approach to the "she was supposed to be the good guy" (i have no idea which one they were going for to be honest.) and they just dropped the ball on her redemption arc. Season 4 was an absolute mess compared to the first 2 and first half of three, it's impossible to tell what direction they wanted to take Heckapoo tbh. Just another reason for why having a basic roadmap for your story is very important for your story. AT LEAST, have a start, midle and end, there's a lot of wiggle room for what you can do between those 3, so long as what you put between them doesn't conflict with what's already there.
@@hughjanus2066 they did everything so fast without character development. Without it, it's a big plothole. Season 4 was a mess. We all said it was mess. Mina wasn't a great final villain because she's an idiot that doesn't even follow her own plans.
Hekapoo knew Mina was stupid but the MHC were so desperate to get rid of Ecplisa that they were willing to let this happened. The episode she called out Rhomblus of being the bad guy for trying to put innocent lives endangered and the MHC were doing the same thing. It should have been Hekapoo realizing that she and the MHC became the villains that they were accusing Ecplisa for.
@@AH-is5yg I would attribute things falling apart in season 4 to a lack of clear communication and coherency among the writers tbh, either that or it was time constraints.
I fail to see why any of the council members bothered to participate in Mewni's affairs, given how little they care about its people and just hide in another dimension when things get really rough. Heckapoo should've just stayed as the aloof, distant keeper of the scissors who sometimes pals around with Marco and friends if the crew wanted to keep her character consistent and without political baggage.
That's exactly what the crew didn't want.
I stand by my idea it would've been better to have had the MHC be brainwashed by the Royal family or something.
@@nachomolaolivera7580 What do you mean?
@@nachomolaolivera7580 How so?
The Heckapoo that hangs with Marco and the Heckapoo that’s in the MHC should’ve been completely separate characters.
So glad you're talking about this! This was another reason (other than the creepy age gap) why I didn't ship Marco with her. While Heckapoo was a cool character, I always thought it was weird that she's done some pretty bad things but it's never really addressed properly. I mean she did get confronted during the trial, but then hung out with Marco like it's nothing. She and the MHC practically helped Moon and Mina with their rebellion, but she still expected thanks when she saved Marco, Star, Eclipsa, Meteora, and Moon (as if she didn't help cause it).
That's not quite fair, Hekapoo didn't want them in Mewni from the very beginnig. Remember she closed the portals? If it was for her, and the teenagers didn't circumvent her (doors?), Marco, Star and Moon would have been safe.
Eclipsa and Meteora would have possibly been slayed by the first Solarian Warrior tho. Even if Moon was to just exile them, she'd be late for this first assault.
@@nachomolaolivera7580 Eh true. She did try to protect them, but I felt she had the power to do more. Then again, judging from her fight with Toffee and Meteroa, maybe not. Ngl, this does make me wonder how much power she had in the MHC.
The only based option is to enjoy and ship the characters from Season 2 and pretend none of the character changes from the other 2 seasons happened
@@benadical222 I mean s3 was arguably the best season of star vs
@@stevenquartzcutiepiedemayo8272 I’d say it’s easily when the show went down hill.
They completely ruined the character of every member of the MHC just to do the monster racism plot line. After such great character episodes for Hekapoo and Rhombulus in specific, it was such a shame to have them simplified to just systemic bigots when the plot demands it. If they were going to ignore Rhombulus’s character episode to paint him as a bigot and Hekapoo’s bigotry to paint her as a cool friend, then what was the point?
Do you think they deserve to be killed off at the end
They were horrible at day one. Hekapoo is that cool friend you finally realize is a racist cus you were the right color to her and never showed her real self in public, The fact there was also the royal blood replacement they pulled to keep on the royal power
@@Solqueen86 This is probably one of the worst defenses I've heard for the post BFM seasons.
U just don't wanna face it
@@kevinbell5674 Then please explain what excuse she had to let the royals be replaced in full cus one of them was in love with a monster and passed laws to oppress other monsters when she and the rest of the gang ARE MONSTERS
Paranorman had a great scene where the bigots that killed the girl had a quiet moment where they straight up said “we regret what we did , we were wrong “ at least one of the councilmen should’ve had a scene like that .
Honestly Omnitraxus should have been the one to do that. In the books he straight up tried to have Festivia be nice to monsters but of course Hekapoo says no
I think Hekapoo became the most moral of the current mhc. However that is because she is the lesser evil but she is still evil
I think like Kitty said, the show never bothered to show her redemption or any sense of genuine guilt, she just suddenly decides to help Star and Marco stop Mina.
@@koichidignitythief7429 I mean, I felt the same about glossarick. so...
Another great example of utterly wasted potential within SvtFoe. Her connection to Marco, her role in the high commission...it all leads to nothing. And her just agreeing to...well die at the end is such an insanely lazy way to write around the conflict of Magic being destroyed also affecting her and all other magical beings. Just "eh, guess I'll die."
This just reminded me of how awful the ending to this show truly is and how absolutely nothing about it made any sense at all, from really any perspective
I know I liked the relationship between hekapoo and Marco.
Star Vs can be summed up "wasted potential." NOTHING in the show was allowed to blossom into something special.
"Her connection to Marco" She's just a p*do
@@DLxxx yeah, just watch seasons 1 and 2 then forget about everything in 3 and 4. I would love to see someone do a rewrite of this show so badly
I like to headcanon that Star used the energy from the magic dimension to fire off a 50-megaton narwhal fuckstorm that shredded the Solarians' armor and made them easier to beat.
_Instead of_ destroying magic entirely.
"But she's hot, so I forgive her." - some of her defenders.
Some? Hah! No it's all of them!
Glossaryck should had been the final villain, not because he's bad in a common way, but because he's the creator of the oppresing system Mewni lives under. That way, corrupting magic has to be the solution to stop the most powerfull being in the multiverse. Plus this gives the MHC a reason to be like that, they're just doing what they were created for and are afraid to challenge their creator
That would've been so awesome!
I actually like that ngl
But he’s the most powerful being in all of creation how are they going to fight him. And him being the villain takes away his complexity that he’s a morally grey character. Also this idea is a lil too dark for a kids show
I think SVTFOE should have stayed as a slice of life, so many of the problems would have been fixed
This.
Indeed
yeah tbh once season 3 started i started to dislike the show i really liked all the earth stuff plus the animation was also really good in season 1 and 2
@@tmphost the earth stuff was good and I felt that it worked well, and Star was a better character. It was fun seeing the episodic formula and I miss how we never get episodic shows anymore
Honestly, they just had to do the story-driven stuff better. Cause if it had stayed as episodic, I would've ditched it like I did with some shows that had a potential to become more serious but stayed too comedic anyways.
Out of all the members of the MHC, she was the smuggest and most loathable during Eclipsa's sham trial.
Agreed! She shouldn't have been the good guy in the mhc! Hell she seems to be the most racist one!
Omnitraxus straight up felt bad for monsters and tried to improve their treatment while Rhombulus has showed that he doesn't think things through but doesn't mean any malice so it was infuriating to see them reduced to racist bigots
I mean, her series debut has her torment one of the main characters for like 20 years, and she did it all for a laugh.
That's something the _Joker_ would do.
Like i said in the chat, Hekapoo may have started out as this badass portal master but just like a lot of the characters in the show even she made mistakes no character is perfect. and it's funny that you mentioned Hekapoo and shipping Kitty because i can remember back when the show was still being made that Hekapoo was pretty much considered the biggest waifu for so many SVTFOE fans in fact you should see the amount of fan art that people have made of Hekapoo, it's ridiculous and i mean that in both a good and bad way.
Ironically a fanfiction crossover that i like updated a chapter the same day this video uploaded, and has hekapoo start her redemption arc earlier than canon, and she admits word for word that she's a bad person.
If you're curious, it's called "louds vs the forces of evil". I wasn't the only one that noticed the perfect timing for that.
She was never a bad ass. She was abusive.
@@julianmartinez4719 I actually read that and it's pretty good they handled Hekapoos character phenomenally
This what I hate about the Fandom. Everyone hated Jackie because she was in the way of Starco. Its was ridiculous reason to hate her. But they made an exception on shipping marco and heckapoo.
Tbh I didn't really _care_ for Jackie, but I didn't hate her character. -Also I mostly shipped TomStar.-
This. Jackie was not abusive like Poo.
This fandom has more ADHD than me.
Hekapoo's an example of the fans wanted more of this character (three guesses why) but the writers really only wanted them for one episode and then had no where to go
Side note hekapoo is festivias mother with jushtin the uncalculated this is the hill I will die on
Festivia is a piefolk. If you wanted to go by theories then why Hekapoo? The one with JushtinxMina seemed more plausible.
@@nachomolaolivera7580 for starters piefolk are known to be liars it's called out in that very episode that the pie folk were lying about festivias background
Second making hekapoo the mother both explains hekapoo's later actions and the time jump needed for festivia (festivia would have been conceived during the mission with jushtin and alphonse when solaria was queen but around 30 years before meteora was born. If hekapoo has access to a relm that runs a million times faster then mewni then surely there has to be a dimension that does the opposite running slower then anywhere else where hekapoo kept the infant until she could come up with a plan
The final plan is simple
* eclipsa has a child with globgor
* hekapoo tells shastacan who either kills the child or just gets rid of it
* hekapoo tells globgor who reacts in rage eating shastacan
* globgor is frozen mid scream by rombulas meaning he was in the room at the time
* hekapoo tells rombulas that eclipsa is behind everything
* rombulas freezes eclipsa not asking questions
* MHC meeting to decide the new queen
* hekapoo shows the MHC a baby that is the spitting image of then prince jushtin purple hair eyes and cheekmarks
* festivia is queen
They should have added a scene, of Marco calling Hekapoo a coward and a bad person. After, Marco calls her out she takes his words to heart, and then, she has her redemption.
Considering that the whole thing with the monsters is just a big on the nose metaphor for racism and bigotry, it felt way too close and personal for the show to take it as lightly as it did. It almost felt like the Commission's blatant racism was played for comedy and the fact that these characters were let off the hook so easily was insulting and infuriating. I like Heckapoo's design but jesus she's such an unlikeable character. Throughout the series she seemed so smug and holier than thou, way too quick to pass judgement onto others when she herself was such a horrible person.
This. You say it perfectly.
Okay, just because H-Poo is a popular character, does NOT mean that she was suppose to be the one to be redeemed. I mean with the way the show presented herself and made her THAT selfish, the role of redemption should've been given to Omnitraxus who was more of the voice of reason. How the show went and did with Hekapoo's character is just as bad as the disgusting Heinous/Meteora x Rasticore and Moon x Toffee shippings (both ships are gross to me).
I honestly see Omni as true neutral, doing what's necessary for balance being an omnipotent being or the personification of space-time or whatever.
I think it should've gone to rhom, wno was already on his way there and felt actual remorse.
Just imagine, we could've had rhom growing from a man baby to the most mature mhc member of the group.
What I never understood about Sean is that he was even allowed to work for the royal family. Isn't he also considered a monster? He looks like he could be a member of Ludo's first army.
Well we see that He has some kind of magical abilities, considering He is in every room of the tower the magical high commision is. So he's probably a exception like them.
@@universalpower419 I don't remember that scene, but if it is true, then he makes sence.
I feel like things with the MHC could have been better if it was made clear that they don't necessarily have an issue with monsters in general (maybe not necessarily love them, but kind of have a "you don't bother us, we don't bother you" and/or only go against them if they felt it was necessary to help the Mewmans, which is what they were made for), but specifically had a problem with Eclipsa's monster family. Because it's not like they would have no reason to worry about what could happen with a monster having access to the magic of the Butterflies. They would have no idea what Meteora's abilities would be like, since she's presumably the first of her kind, and there would be the fear that not only would Globgor relapse, but he could potentially have a very powerful and dangerous ally in the form of his daughter, who for all anyone knew, he could have been training to destroy Mewmans and be like him when he was (as far as we're shown) happily killing and eating people. Still wouldn't justify them taking Meteora from her parents, but it would make it more understandable why they would be so against Meteora even potentially having access to the wand.
Why is it that some fans are better at writing than the writers? 😩
Literally, this is *SO* much better than what they did with them.
Not to mention when Lobster Claws got a hold of Star’s wand he was immediately corrupted and then kept flipping between ‘good’ and ‘evil’. They could’ve used that as an excuse to why monsters can’t/shouldn’t have Mewnian magic: they’re too unstable
@@Frocierillis174 man, you got a point there! They really could've utilized that!
@@leirawhitehart1236 And since Comet was accepting of monsters maybe they could've done something with that.
It's probably foresight
I can see Hekapoo not trusting Eclipsa, but there was no reason she couldn't have had a character ark with Eclipsa that was similar to the one she had with Marco. She is supposed to be someone who takes no crap and cares more about the moral values of a person than their fame or societal standing. So her trying to test Eclipsa to see her true nature would not only make sense, it would have been more compelling. As for star destroying magic, I think it would have been better if the writers made it the liberation of magic rather than its destruction. After all, that better conveys the message of tearing down systems that were designed for the benefit of specific groups. Making something good available to everyone is better than making it go away.
Poo has no morals.
I've been saying that Hekapoo was trash since Running with Scissors came out, everyone stanned her and wanted her to step on them because she was cute. Great design work can't save poor characterization.
This. She is an abusive individual, everyone is justifying her abuse for being cute.
argueably she's always had villainious tendencies, its just the show culdn't decide fi she should be a full villain or a full on ally and so we got a mess of a character who honestly was the best candidate for big bad among the then established characters of the time
@@GokuMcDuck remember when the internet collectively started simping for a tall vampire lady who wanted to painfully torture the protagonist and then serve him up as a vampirial blood meal to her 3 daughters?
if you have an... let's just say appealing design, they'll let you get away with anything
@@camoking3609 Vampire lady was always meant to be evil. Poo was trying to be sold between a friend or neutral.
@@GokuMcDuck alright that's fair
"To be honest, I always had the feeling this stuff did more harm than good." ...Magic itself has neither the capacity of being good or evil. It's PEOPLE who do that. Similar to Star's boneheaded decision to "destroy" magic, Heckapoo is shifting the blame to a completely impartial cosmic force, which is...kinda necessary for cosmic stability.
I’ll forever be annoyed by how how Star decided to destroy magic because of the actions of a few people
Something I’m interested in seeing a Rhombulus video and if anyone shares my opinion that he was in some way Character assassinated. As the most immature member he always felt like the one on Star’s level and could’ve been one of her more avid supporters. I’m not sure if that was an early plans for his character or just head cannon but he was one of the only adults Star has a positive relationship.
Rhombulus could have been redeemed if the writers gave a scene of him being mad at Omni and HP for making him take all the blame for releasing globgore. Think about it: you could argue that if rom represents childhood he acts like a child, he's easily manipulated like a child, if we had one moment of Rom question everything the other MHC told him and them once again treating him like a child and ignoring his opinions and questions. They made him put innocent people in dangerous and guess what? Globgore may have been good but keeping the people safe is his job. Let him have a heart to heart with star!! She's objectively closest with him, she showed him that following his gut and biases can be wrong and that you can hurt innocent people making assumptions and look at what he'd help do, he ripped a baby away from a mother and help keep the secret.
Hes supposed to keep the innocent people safe, shouldn't he have a reaction to finding out that he locked away a selfish but still innocent woman and had her very innocent baby be raised in an abusive house? And that doing so caused something bad to happen because of his assumptions???
The final season was hammering in that the children of monsters and mewmans are the futures hope, so wouldn't it have made the most sense for Romulus, the representation of childhood, be the one of the MHC to help shape the future for the better and help correct the wrongs made generations before.
He's the one who changed his ways in his own introduction episode, he's the one that shared the secret of eclipsa's daughter, he's the one who's in charge of keeping people safe, HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE ONE TO REALIZE THAT WHAT THEY DID WAS WRONG.
he should have been the one that had a change of heart because he out of all of them showed he was willing to change and see to reason when shown that what he's been doing is wrong.
I haven't realized how salty I am about Romulus until now sense he had always been my favorite MHC because he seemed the most likely to accept change.
You know. I honeslty belive a big part of the reaosn Heckapoo is treated the way she is and her own flaws and bad choices and actions are overlooked or glossed over even by critics is simple.
Heckapoo is arguablly THE most popular girl in the shows fandom. If you look up Star vs fan art chances are your going to find a TON of Heckapoo art. Both...Safe and not so safe for work. The fandom adored her cause of her interactions with Marco in her dimesion and how they oozed a certain kind of tenshion that people love. People adored her and still do to this day. That's why people gave hr a free pass. they liked her alot and ignored her problems.
The thing is, the show did the same thing, mainly beacue of Daron and how obessed she was with her fandom. Daron was very, VERY involved and aware of her fandom and the fanbase and loved it all. This is important as I think that meant she wasn't willing to go against it for the sake of a good story or a proper one.
You can see this exact thing play out with Eclipsa. Why was she constnatly hinted at to be evil till the last moment when it was obvious she was not? Cause the fanbase loved it.
Why was tofee NEVER properly explained? Cause the idea of what he COULD be was very popular in the fandom and Daron didnt want to take that mystery away.
Why was Moon suddenly made a villain out of nowhere then basically immeadtly forgiven? Cause she was the ONLY major character that COULD of been used that way. But it was probibly suppoused to be eclipsa orignally.
With that in mind is it really any surpise Heckapoo is treated like she is?
"Why was tofee NEVER properly explained? Cause the idea of what he COULD be was very popular in the fandom and Daron didnt want to take that mystery away." Sounds like she just didn't want to write her own story, so it was easier to pull in suckers by dangling "mystery bait" like carrots on a stick. There were rumors on some threads that she was mostly writing that "Season 3.5" supplementary spellbook instead of Seasons 3-4, leaving the latter two in the hands of new junior writers and episode directors. Perhaps that Season 3 finale of Star's short, failed queenship was a metaphor for her craetor being a show-runner, an inability to handle that creative control, and wanting others to lead instead.
2:40 Thank You! I've never understood that, like in Running with Scissors they made a point for her to call Marco a kid. But her character seems to be on the same emotional and social level as the teenage characters.
It gives off the same energy as Iris from Pokémon calling Ash a "kid" in the Black and White anime all the time, when she was just as young and immature as him. It was kind of funny the first time around, but became really annoying after a while even for 12 year old me.
I hated Iris too for the same reason.
@@GokuMcDuck It's a shame because conceptually her character is cool, a girl from a Village of Dragons that spent her childhood playing with wild Pokemon and doing acrobatics in trees, and wants to become a Dragon Master.
That makes for a really interesting travel companion, and she had really moments of actual intrigue. Like for example, she knows how to make herbal medicine for Pokemon which comes in handy a couple times. And none of her Pokemon were caught in battle, she befriended them and they choose to join her.
But those cooler aspects get overshadowed by how condescending and annoying she is most of the time.
@@kyleoverton334 Whenever I mention I dislike Iris, people attack me saying I hate her for her dark skin. Saying that I am racist. I am a brown Méxican myself. I do not like Iris because she is annoying. The worst of Ash's female companions.
Right now, my favorite Pokémon character is Bea. Her skin is also dark, and I like her for being a legit badass. Yet people still believe I am racist because I do not like Iris.
@@GokuMcDuck Yeah I've heard that response before and I don’t really like it. I'm black myself and I legitimately wanted to enjoy Iris, but just couldn't. And that's just a matter of her character, and not her skin/race.
I find other darker-skinned characters very enjoyable like Bea, Lenora, Nessa, and Olivia.
@@kyleoverton334 Yes Olivia is also a great character!
I don't know how there was ever a discussion about Hekapoo being good or the lesser evil of the MHC.
People liked her character for a multitude of reasons. From her design to her attitude. To her being fun ship bait for marco. Marco wasn't any good either. In terms of relationships he's a mess that had no improvement on himself being good for any of the girls (Jackie, Hekapoo, Kelly or Star)he dated. Examples: Jackie; he neglected his girlfriend and obsessed over helping save Mewni.
Hekapoo; she had more of a physical attraction to him but cared for him as she enjoyed being with 15 year old Marco as well. But Marco lied to Hekapoo about Star's sleep portals just so he could keep adventureing with Hekapoo.
Kelly; started dating because he loved Star and couldn't cope with those feelings(this was their reason for dating) and when the Blood Moon curse was broken Marco's reason for dating Kelly vanished along with his feelings. Star; she is the same as Marco. Neither of them had any real character development that made them getting together natural. But, I guess by those standards of similar flaws, they're made for each other.
There should've been more character development among the main characters just like the supporting characters(like Tom, Kelly, Jackie ECT.). Instead the plot and character development was sidelined by shipping drama.
My original point is that Hekapoo isn't good, but by having her make up for her involvement in Mina's attempt at monster genocide she saves Moon, Eclipsa, Star and Marco as if that was enough(but the ending was rushed anyway for any attempt at redemption felt forced.)
Hey, at least heckapoo x Kelly is an easy option.
@@dragonempress8367 I wouldn't be surprised if Hekapoo was bisexual. But, another reason why I hate the decision to destroy all magic. That canonized decision by the writers practically ended the fun and future of the SVTFOE fandom...in my opinion.
It can all be contributed to bad writing and I think up until the thing with Kelly his development was on the right path it was going down before but at least it wasn’t bad until what happened with Kelly
I feel like the high commission was both glossed over and not at all as fleshed out as they could've been. I also don't like how they seemingly didn't care when their end was near. Only Lekmet ever seemed to give one big sacrifice.
I always interpreted 22:48 as a reveal that 21:55 was Hekapoo acting and she and Omnitraxus were in fact in on the whole thing. At the end of Cornonation Rhombulus is supposedly being imprisoned but the scene at 22:48 reveals that he wasn't and he is colluding with the others, implying they were in on it the whole time.
The only thing I will say, is at least at the end of it all Heckapoo did actually get destroyed with the rest of magic, and the writers didn't handwave some BS excuse for her to survive due to her popularity.
And yet knowing she and the laser puppies basically CEASE TO EXIST when magic disappears is the most heartbreaking thing about the finale for me (and not in a good way. I hate it)
Nah, Puppies survive because they are appearently just normal puppies with magical lasers.(Which actually throws up the question of how the magic that spawned them was able to create fully non-magic beings. Sounds kinda nonsensical)
I still think Star is one of the worst characters in the show. Even when she’s trying to care about others, she just comes off so stupid, and self centered.
I remember when the finale came out and I saw a bunch of people on Reddit saying Hekappo was "the only good one of the MHC" my salt levels spiked to an all-time high. That's how heavily they whitewashed her actions and how dirty they did Rhombulus. All because she was the fandom's waifu.
Edit: also, this is getting into speculation-territory, but I feel like making the MHC basically be villains was something they came up with during Season 3. It's been a while since I've seen Season 2, but I don't remember "crew of Evil racists" being part of their characterization. Especially since Lekmet was always portrayed as pretty much a saint, yet apparently he and the rest were all involved with the Meteora situation. Hekapoo especially suffered from this, since she was so popular they didn't want to commit to just making her a straight-up antagonist.
They did Rhombulus soo freaking dirty which suck cuz I liked him a lot and they just ignored his prior characterization to make him a bigoted jerk.
This. Only goat guy did not live enough to become a bad guy.
I feel it would've been neat to have SOME of the MHC as villains and some as good guys
@@GokuMcDuck YESS like are you telling me the gote was complicit in THE ENTIRE THING? AND THAT WAS THE PLAN FROM DAY ONE??? nah not in any universe could you convince me of that bs.
@@AlphaPizzadog He died a martyr.
I can answer why they want to get rid of Eclipsa and her daughter: they want a puppet princess/queen like before.
To think I was alone. This character is terrible yet everyone loves her. I never liked her. Look how she bullied and abused Marco the first time they met. And she never punished Star nor Ponyhead for the scissors. So no she is not worthy of admiration.
I haven't watched Star but it's nice to learn about a show I'm unfamiliar with, and to learn how other people feel about it! Helps to build writing skills and overall experience, I'd say
My biggest question ever since this whole racism narrative started regarding the MHC is, WHY do *THEY* hate monsters so much?
I mean, I get why the mewmens would hate them, even though the show acts like it's for no reason, I'd say the reason is pretty obvious. With how monsters look and act to a degree like predators, being big, with sharp teeth and claws, and wings, and spikes, and all sorts of natural weapons that could easily be used against the frail, squishy humans (with no natural defenses) that became mewmens, how else were they supposed to feel about such foreign, dangerous looking creatures? At least, that's first impressions, however, monsters like Globgore prove that at least some of those impressions were justified to some degree, because I sincerely doubt that he's the only monster in all of mewmen history to have ever eaten any, so yeah, I can understand their fear and prejudice.
The show doesn't seem to however.
But the MHC, I don't get. I don't get their favoritism towards mewmens, as it doesn't really seem like anything Gosserick encouraged, moreso just went along with, and they seem to have been around for a *long time,* possibly longer than mewmens have existed, so they must've been somewhat familiar with how monsters really are to some degree, right?
So why do they hate monsters, and favor mewmens over literally ANYONE ELSE in the entire multiverse??? What reason do they have to be so bigoted? Why the hatred, the prejudice, the blind accusations? Why do they feel this way, when they're supposed to be very powerful, semi-all-knowing demigods? Could they have a reason why they feel the way they do about monsters? The show acts like they don't.
Like they hate them just cause. And that's it. And they make them out to be very childish about it too! Like, they don't want to explain themselves, because "I don't wanna!", like that's basically how it seems.
Like, I dunno, maybe they just didn't want to "give a platform to hateful ideas" or something, but the truth is, people like this have reasons why they are the way they are, and acting like they don't, doesn't make the problem go away, it makes it worse, because then they feel slandered, ignored, unheard and justified. They turned the MHC into one-note strawmen, and that was a very bad move on the writers part.
Overall, this was a show with potential, but it ended up being a massive mess, with a half-hearted, half-baked message that was completely butchered and fumbled all the way through.
Also, I'd like to mention in this side note that when people talk about all the magical beings that Star killed when she destroyed magic, people always tend to forget the residents of the wand: the spells.
You know, the spells, like Spider-with-a-Tophat, that we spent *two WHOLE* episodes getting to know, and who weren't even necessary, because they were going to die by the end anyway??
Like the narwhal-butterfly baby.
That baby has no future.
Star killed a baby, people.
That is not something the writers can bs their way through like with the puppies, those beings were pure magic, and she killed a baby.
Heck, even if they were somehow *not* killed, they'd still be homeless, as how could they live in a dead wand? How were those new parents supposed to raise a baby in a DEAD WAND WITH NO MAGIC????
Literally, WHY were we even introduced to these characters in the first place if they didn't matter and were going to be killed off with little thought or regard BY THE MAIN CHARACTER HERSELF????
Ok, sorry for the long rant, but gosh, I had a lot to say.
This show was such a disappointment.
@Fuzzy trainwreck well thanks for that, but gosh, what more could I say about it that hadn't already been said?
They threw in a racism plot without thinking things through, and it ended up being just a mess...
Overall imo, I think that Star vs. Had the same problem as Steven Universe, in that, the show runners had no idea where they were going with their story, and made it up as they went along, and personally, I think that format is fine for an episodic show with loose cannon, but for a serialized show, that's supposed to have world building, lore, and an ongoing narrative, I think it's proven that that type of loose creation process can lead to disaster.
If you want to tell a connected story, with lore and character growth in mind, I think it's best to have a skeleton of your story first, with clear beginning and end points before you even draw the first storyboard, and flesh out your idea further as you go along. That way, you know where your characters are heading, both in terms of goal and growth, and you can better keep track of your lore, message, and story progress, to make sure you don't contradict yourself.
I believe this show had a continuity tracker that was either fired or left at some point during season four, and I've heard that things really started going downhill after they left, because now there was nothing to hold the story together.
This was a massive mistake, as if there's one thing longtime fans hate, it's inconsistencies. Not having a consistent story can very clearly damage your show, as proven by both SvtfoE and SU. Both shows had extremely unsatisfying endings, because the writers didn't really seem to know where to go with their stories, or how to end them, and that was a mistake.
And I think at this point I'm just repeating myself, so I guess I've said all I need to say.
Huh, guess I had more to add than I thought. ^^;
@Fuzzy trainwreck yeah, some minor contradictions here and there aren't too much to worry about, as they can happen every now and then, but when it gets to the point of impacting the world and characters to where it doesn't make sense anymore, and you've written yourself into a corner, then yeah, that's a real problem.
My point still stands, that having a good idea of how you want your story to end before it begins would help prevent this problem.
Also, yeah, Tom was done dirty.
Thing is I didn't mind the reveal that a lot of Mewni's problem sprung from their own bigotry, but it never really held these guys accountable. It never called out how their actions made the kingdom worse and only created enemies against Mewni including Heinous who would go on to become a potential threat to ALL dimensions. Star was the only one who really knew that they were full of shit but no one ever DID anything about them and even their deaths, while deserved, feel unsatisfactory because they spent so much of their time partying about a coup/genocide they helped start and then they're dead. No confrontations, no calling them out, we don't even get the catharsis of watching them realize they were about to die. Even Hekapoo's assistance was half-assed, content to get drunk and leave it to Star to actually DO something, not even offering to let Dimensional Travel work so Star could recruit allies who WOULD have helped her stop Mina. Tom is the Prince of the Underworld and they know several other royals all with armies who could have taken down the Solarians. But instead the plot just railroads itself into magic being the problem and not the bigoted meddling of the Magical High Commission of Assholes.
Isn't Hekapoo a monster? Aren't ALL of the Magical High Commission members a monster?
According to the lore, no. At least to my understanding. There seems to be a difference between naturally born monsters and “monsters” made out of magic like Hekapoo and the other members of the MHC
@@starstorm1267 I call that Nefcy having to write and out and saying Magically Created being aren't monsters. A contrivance.
I'm going to be honest but I don't think none of these who council members are good people. Especially what they did to meteora. She did not deserve what happened to her.
It seems like the creators wrote her to be entirely villainous, but then made her too likeable so when people liked her, they panicked. Her entire schtick is no lying, but you can't say that and then lie to generations. They wrote her as a pure villain, but when people liked her too much they had to make her seem "good enough"
It just hit me, what qualifies as a monster? It can't be "anyone not a mewman" because Rhombulus, Omnitraxus, Lekmet, and Sean are clearly not mewman in any way. What is it that makes them NOT monsters??
If you aren't loyal then you are a monster. You know I have a cartoon and it at least explains what counts as a monster or not. Let's see here, how about a vampire, if a vampire is killing people, sucking them dry, and causing problems, then that's a monster. If a vampire is just living their lives as a normal person would and is working or going to school, not hurting anyone, and paying for their food (or in this case blood) then they don't count as a monster. It doesn't matter if two creatures are the same species, if one acts feral then they are monsters, if one is sentient then they are not monsters.
@@Nameless82284
Oh my God, so there is no difference, is there?
I been knew she wasn't a good person with the way she was introduced. She's not a straight up villain but she wasn't necessarily a good person either. She took a child and dumped him in a strange dimension to hopelessly chase after her for years on end for her own amusement really. Technically when he went back home it'd be like he hadn't aged a day so she was probably thinking no real harm was done, but to him he grew up alone without having contact with his friends and family. He spent years not being able to speak to or hug his mom and dad. That's messed up. Even then I had hoped that she'd be a more open minded member of the council. She seemed to be the young adult of the group mentally and personality wise so I hoped that she'd be the one who was willing to change things or be open to working with the monsters. When the rest of the council talked about how much they detested monsters and how they knew Eclipsa was up to no good I wish she had been the open minded one saying Eclipsa isn't so bad and like Star questioned once asking what makes the non human royals and even them for that matter so different from monsters, but just like her siblings she was a huge bigot with no willingness to change and that disappointed me.
The Tavern at the End at the Multiverse episode was trying to make Hekapoo look as if she was doing a heroic deed by having the gang stay in a safe place. This is ignoring the fact that she and the rest of the MHC gave Mina the okay to attack and overthrow Eclipsa in the first place (she was only concerned with Mina being crazy and not following their plan, not the actual safety of the Mewmans. If she was concerned for the Mewmans, she would've used them as a reason as to why she didn't think Mina could do the job properly). The episode makes it seem like she's doing Star and the gang a huge favor, but the way the overall story's written, it comes across as if she's giving the gang a solution to a problem she caused. She even made it look like they owe her a thank you for saving their lives, even though she had some part in the attack and didn't even try to stop Mina, the Solarian Warriors, or the rest of the MHC. Why the fuck would Eclipsa, or anyone who wasn't Moon, thank her at all? It didn't seem like she regretted her actions, or else she would've at least tried to ask Eclipsa for some form of forgiveness and actually help the Mewmans she endangered. Instead, she had the nerve to accuse Eclipsa of being a power-hungry ruler, even though all of Eclipsa's actions had nothing to do with her wanting more power. Plus, Hekapoo literally helped Moon obtain power by forcing Eclipsa to give up a title that was rightfully hers! Not to mention, it was implied that another reason the MHC helped Mina and Moon was so they could actually have conferences in their old room, implying that overthrowing Eclipsa would've given them this option. How the fuck is Hekapoo supposed to be seen as heroic at this point?
I think this essay points out just how much of a trash fire the writing for Star Vs. became after season two all the way to the end. Good ideas left to waste, the constant breaking of 'show don't tell', and just... Well, this video comes highlights my own issues with Hekapoo. I actually liked Hekapoo, but like everyone else with the show, the writing and how the character acts just ruins any true long-term attachment. I honestly felt nothing but frustration when this show ended, and despite the intention for me to feel sad about Hekapoo's passing the writers clearly wanted; I felt apathy. I felt more horrified at the ramifications of what Star and Co. did to 'save the day'. Plus the botched Aesop ruined any meaning for the message they wanted to convey.
This show just became a botched mess of a narrative, and honestly, was the sign for me that the faith Gravity Falls instilled in me that Disney was back on their feet with good shows, was not to last.
I'm not against the idea of Hekapoo or the MHC not being redeemed. The problem is it never felt like the way it was written made it clear whether we were supposed to relish in their death or find it to be tragic. I was in the former camp because fuck them, but it felt like they wanted to redeem Hekapoo and simply couldn't write their way out of a cardboard box.
I STILL don't understand what they were thinking with how they wrote her in "Cleaved." She was SOOOO apathetic to Star's proclamation of destroying magic. It wasn't like she agreed with Star that it was a desperate but necessary measure and that she'd accept whatever fate she would endure. She literally felt like she didn't give a flying fuck at that point. Maybe it was meant to be a metaphor about the creative team's opinion about giving the show a satisfying ending?
Jeez, every time I think about the show's home stretch it frustrates me to shit.
What was with the glitch in the audio at the end of the video? Or was that just my computer glitching out something fierce?
this show had so much potential, but it became infected in ships and terrible writing... its such a shame
I'd love to see a video on Rhombulus because he got done soo dirty in season 4 (and maybe season 3 I don't actually remember I try not to think about this show to much)
Its so nice to see someone who is able to talk about characters/story writing in a way that let me gain new perspectives that I didnt think about as I watched the show.
I been binging your videos lately
Great work :)
I hated how the writers made the rest of the Magic High Commission into one dimensional jerks just to make Hekapoo seem better by default, despite the fact that Omnitraxis tired to advocate for peace at times (possibly even more times than Hekapoo) and seems more reasonable than her, and Rhombulus had some decent reasons as to why he wanted to get rid of Eclipsa.
the best member of the magic comission is probably lekmet
The sad thing is that is the best because i remember basically nothing of him except that he died fighting toffee, and had the least amount of screentime
And i'm kinda glad he did. Who knows what the series would have done to him in season 4 if he was alive
To be honest I'm entirely surprised there weren't a ton of "She might have trouble telling the truth, _but those hips don't lie"_ comments.
Because this is the goddamn internet.
It's unfortunate how bad star vs in general got towards the end... but heckapoo was one of my favorites at first and I still think she's pretty attractive design wise ngl... but man it's unfortunate the writers switched careers to butchers
Yes the title alone makes me agree
This is my issue with this show, they make or present these cool characters and concepts but they are NEVER executed correctly. The whole racist monster idea really needs to be rewritten and same goes for a LOT of characters.
I was the only one who found Hekapoo's interest in Marco creepy? He is 14 years old and she is an adult. Would we be as comfortable if the sexes were reversed?
This shows plot fell off a cliff right around season 2. With the remaining Seasons being the writers trying to peace togethet what was left.
Apparently, there was a lot of drama during the development of this series. That ended up spilling over into the actual show itself.
Edit: the last minute/minute-and-a-half of this video has an audio issue. It seems the overlap
Vague, salacious rumors as to what that drama was either appeared briefly on AnimeSuperHero or mostly on select few /co/ threads (the latter not the most legitimate or politically correct source), like the creator and top writers focusing more on their supplementary book than the latter half of the show, the creator being on bad terms with the previous director (s) who were put in by Disney to mentor her or something since she had to pitch the show on the fly, Star was originally going to end up alone while Marco and Jackie were together but then they changed that to appease 'shippers after the Blood Moon Ball took off in popularity, and Disney nearly firing the creator for attitude problems until they realized doing that to their second female show-runner would be bad press, Season 2's romantic drama being based on one's personal high school unrequited love in favor of a prettier friend, and the creator not having real control until Season 3.
@@Rosemont104 actually the creator said she based Marco on her husband and star on her self and they would end up together so them ending up together made sense but it was done in a bad way just to mess with shippers.
THANK YOU! So sick of people giving her a pass.
Quick change I'd make: as maker of portals, it's her job to protect everyone. She sees a problem and sorts it quickly but she realises she's made mistakes, so agrees to destroy magic because she's depressed and doesn't know what to believe anymore.
Keep making cool videos, I been trying to stay sober and these videos help. Watching these 30 min videos help sometimes.
What do you expect? She's a borderline eldritch being, of course she's going going to have a alien morality system.
Jackie Lynn Thomas exited the series the same way she entered, as Best Girl :D
They could’ve done a redemption for Hekapoo and Rhombolus.
Rhombulos could’ve begged Eclipsa for forgiveness. And apologizing for what they did to her and her family. Maybe even letting Eclipsa meet Festivia.
Hekapoo admits she preferred Globgor then Shastacan. And admits that she thought magic did more harm then good.
I feel like she's the kind of person who only goes against the grain because she's "counterculture". A real rebel without a cause.
How often do l make jokes about chemistry? Periodically.
Technically we haven't seen Hekapoo dead, so maybe she is still alive in some form
Hekapoo is a full on hypocrite. She gave Marco flak for withholding information. Yet, she had a part in screwing with both sides of the Butterfly family.
Heckapoo (or however it's spelled) is not a good person, but she is my favorite of the HMC (Lekmen would have but he only had two episodes). I hate the whole back-and-forth of almost everyone in season 4, she switched sides more than [insert double-crossing character here].
I think the writers forgot to give her character development, or even better they didn't know what they were doing.
Honesty, looking back, I feel star had as much chance destroying magic as much as toffee did.
By that, I mean even after doing so, star dipped down and restored the magic. So who's to say star and Marco didn't bring it back again? Only difference I assume is that Marco might have had dark magic inside him cuz of that implement from the corrupted unicorn wound, leading up the moment wher e star and Marco both hug with cheeks glowing their specific sigils.
What's I'm saying is that if glossaryck's magic like before didn't fully die but rather rebooted in a way given potential changes with it.
I'm guessing Ludo stole his family's scissors, don't think he earned them or anything
It does feel like there is a lost episode
Star vs the forces of character assassination
She was willing to let them all be crushed in trail by box
Honestly, I've always wondered how Buffrog got dimensional scissors if Heckapoo hates monsters so much. Did he just steal them? Did Ludo or his parents ( who were monster royals ) give them to him in season one or two? It's not explained how he could possess them at all in the show, especially if Heckapoo is supposed to be the equivalent of "border patrol" for portaling.
From someone who loved the series, and after the horrible ending couldnt even look at the thing without feeling bad for a long while,the title statement didnt need a 30 minutes video.
I think you meant wasn't, she ded
Is she? We never see her materials. We see Rhombulus' crystal and snakes and Omnitraxus' skull, but no candles or flames or whatever it is Glossaryck made her out of.
29:35 uh, don’t mind this part everyone.
No Seriously, it’s fine we can still understand what she is saying anyway. She doesn’t have to fix it.
Okay, so it wasn't just me!
29:36 It's official: My sanity hath broketh.
Two villains I'd love to see reviewed are from Centaur World and Over the Garden Wall. Those are by far my favorite cartoon villains.
I think just about everything with the MHC was just poorly handled. The way Season 4 rushed everything didn't help. Because all it did was turn characters we liked into a bunch of one note racist assholes for no reason other than there needs to be conflict. And again I have to ask what makes The Monsters so different from literally every other weird creature in the multiverse including the MHC.
I guess the more humanoid you are the "better" you are.
@@icecreamhero2375 Bugfrog was more humanoid than Rhombulus though
@@universalpower419 I said I guess.
yea she didnt eat babys but in the clip you blanked out she said the occastional teanager and i think that because hekapoo represents a teenager took this the wrong way
I love your hatred of the deer
When Marco is sitting on the bed toes in the sand, sipping on his soda, just before he gets snatched he's barefoot.. When he lands in Hekapoo's deimintion he's wearing shoes.. She had him chase her around for a few minutes one morning to watch him grow up.. Little Vamp.. gotta love her
I know people have already mentioned it, but the audio is layered at the end (as in, one take on the audio is being played over the final take you actually want to be in the video)
The only thing I liked about H-poo was her character design and sassy personality. 😐 Also I did a painting of her in my grade school art class.
Okay so hear me out.
James Gunn's Star Vs Evil
Im so thankful shows from the past are being debated specially with svtfoe cause it ended so abruptly and definitely left enough content to be still talked about
Someone criticizes Hekapoo?!
I'm here for it!
She deserves it!
Great video. The end of it had overlapped audio but the rest of it was good.