Jim Gilbert's PowerSports also sells electric bicycles, so you could compare them side by side. And I agree for you these are perfect for college kids, where I think people make the mistake is they figure that's the only market for these. These are great for people of all ages in various stages of life!
The problem I''m trying to figure out today, is weather. I'm in the market for an ebike/electric moped/traditional moped and this heat wave we've been in has really gotten me thinking about lithium ion operating temperatures. I've been riding an ebike for a year but in the summer months, I can't here in Albuquerque. The idea operating temperature for ALL lithium ion batteries is between 15.55 Celsius and 26.6 Celcius. Below 15.5 and the output drops and the cells start to degrade, above 26.6 and it's the same thing. Most ebikes are black, which makes that problem worse. I just watched a video on ebikes and the Lectric they tested was stored at 25.9 C and was up to 35 C within a minute and inside the battery tube it was already 42.7. The point where you start needing to worry about the volativity of the battery cells. This is a problem traditional mopeds don't have and as far as I know. No ebike or electric moped currently has any kind of lithium ion cooling system like electric cars have. Suddenly, I find myself looking at 50cc mopeds (where i live, you don't have to register them at all) because the last year knowing I could get around town and I didn't have to pay some kind of tax or fee to get around town and let the DMV know what I purchased (i mean, it's really none of their business) I really like the idea of just having cheap transportation. This is a really good moped. Somehow, this and the Metropolitan are currently in the lead for my next purchase. I had planned on $5k usd for a high powered electric moped for for less, these things make a compelling argument. yes, it still uses gas but 4 bucks is 100 miles of range that can get another 100 miles of range in as quickly as 3 minutes at the gas pump. Not something any ebile or electric moped can do. I have a lot to think about....
Hi and greetings ftom Montreal! I,m so happy to have found your channel and watched this video so far. I,m hoping to purchase a Vespa this summer and not sure whether to purchase a 50 or 150 (i have a full motocycle license). Looking forward to checking out more of your very informative videos - thank you!
I'm glad you found me too! So my general advice is, if you have a motorcycle license, I'd go with the 150. There's nothing that the 150 can't do that the 50 can, and the 150 allows you to go take more roads that can really shorten your trip, or allow you to extend your adventure. There is a cost difference between the two, but if you can swing it, the 150 is the one I would recommend. If you didn't have a motorcycle license, I could sing the praises of a 50cc scooter as I started riding on a small scooter, but since you have the license, you can really introduce a lot of fun and freedom to your life with the 150.
Hi, greetings from New Zealand. Would this be okay uphill? I weight 120kgs and wanting to get one of these for uber eats. I don’t mind it slowing down on hills, but would it come to a complete stop if I ride it uphill? Thanks
I'm from Canada and license requirements in the U.S. and Canada are different for each state and province. I wouldn't know the exact requirements and regulations where you live.
I enjoyed you're Ninja 400 Video a lot! No problem Subscribing with fullbells. Was there a 'Who' film that sort of featured a Vespa? Quadrophenia? I knew not much about Vespa's when I stumbled into a store with my Wife in Toronto Downtown featuring Vespa's. Man, they cost way more than I thought for a simple scooter maybe14 years ago. I tested for insurance rates at my age out of pure curiosity and got what it thought was about a hundred a month. Greed! So now we have e-Bikes. Time passes way faster when you get older. How have the costs changed from 15 years ago? I think they assumed that I had already bought it and had me in their claw. insurance company's were in 'partnerships'. It seemed. "Why compete"? That was Toronto, Ontario.
We're not Toronto! I grew up in Mississauga and lived inToronto in my 20's into my early 30's, and I can tell you that Fredericton is a different place and I love it! Out here there's a market for the 50cc bikes as licensing requirements are simpler, and they also sell Pedego e-bikes at Jim Gilbert's PowerSports. Some of them aren't too far away from the price of a Vespa. Piaggio scooters also makes the Liberty, and that bike is less expensive than the Vespa and shares engines. So there are options!
@@davidmacphee3549 Dude!!!! I met Hazel when I was about 10 years old and she was absolutely the best!! She treated me like I was the most important person in the room and there were all kinds of government and business leaders there. Later in my life, my dad had a role that would cross paths with the mayor once a year and she always asked about me. She was awesome!
@@PeterLoweOne 🥰(Peter Loved One). I got to work for her! Helping building her New City from 1980, as a sort of Security field technician for all the new buildings and homes and industry. You are flawless in your personality and I bet you got a lot of that inspiration from her as a youth. What a brilliant woman. Her only regret is that she built her New City too much around the car. If you Do have a car, you love the place! Whatever she thinks she did wrong then, has been more than fixed. A lot of very happy people now, All thanks to Hazel !
@@PeterLoweOne and in Canada, how much does it cost an insurance for this kind of vehicle? and the difference in insurance of this 50cc vs a 150 cc? Thank you for your video
dear Peter... could you tell me what is the number code for this blue painting, please? Is it Blue Energia or Midnight Blue? The number of the color code would help me a lot ❤ thank you 😊 and greetings from Budapest, Hungary 🎉
It's a system that works very well. It has some anti-dive technology that can't be done with a traditional fork, and yeah. It looks cool too. So it's both functional and stylish.
Top speed on a 50cc is around 60kph possibly 50 in a head win. I’ve done 70kph with a really stiff tailwind. Long distance would certainly be a challenge though an adventure! They are quite comfortable…
Depending on your weight and conditions, it seems to top out near 100 km/h or about 60 mph. You'll see some people go a little faster than that on RUclips, but I would feel safe on these on 90kph roads.
@@PeterLoweOne Is there a way to make it go faster? To al least 70km/h? I hear of some tuning people make to these type of bikes to unlock their full potential. I would appreciate some feedbacl on that. Thank you.
@@camaleon18 Yes, you can unlock the speed by changing the CDI,.Malossi variators, etc.(there are 80c.c. kits available) up to 95 kph. There is a funnel in the exhaust pipe to limit the fume need to be rid off. RUclipsr "Robot" of Vespa Motorsport has one clip dedicated to the mod of 50c.c Vespa.
It depends on where you live, but the licensing requirements in New Brunswick allow that. There is still a test required, so I shouldn't be someone's sole source of information, but these do sell to 14 year old riders here.
@@PeterLoweOne I built a Ham Radio by 14 Years old from a kit. (Hw-12 Heathkit). Young people should not be underestimated. I learned Morse, got licenced and was able to talk with it all over the World with it without Internet. Of course my School Grades Sucked, never got any sleep, but I still have my Radio.
I'm poor and autistic-I would love a Piaggio or Aprilia but I fear all i can afford is a Venom Roma-I won't go as chaep as a Tao. I don't trust stealerships, plan to do all maintenance myself. I am shocked just one front fork.
If it's something you don't want, it's easy to say it's over priced. I know plenty of people who bought this and feel they got fair value for their money. It's ok if it's not for you, I'm glad it exists!
buy a ceaper one and it will not be good. I buy a good one (my Vespa) and i buy it only once. It runs many many years. And the best. Its Cool. greezt from Germany
They are the perfect vehicle for college students in the city and can ride "two up" (in comparison to electric bicycles which many are switching to.)
Jim Gilbert's PowerSports also sells electric bicycles, so you could compare them side by side. And I agree for you these are perfect for college kids, where I think people make the mistake is they figure that's the only market for these. These are great for people of all ages in various stages of life!
The problem I''m trying to figure out today, is weather. I'm in the market for an ebike/electric moped/traditional moped and this heat wave we've been in has really gotten me thinking about lithium ion operating temperatures. I've been riding an ebike for a year but in the summer months, I can't here in Albuquerque. The idea operating temperature for ALL lithium ion batteries is between 15.55 Celsius and 26.6 Celcius. Below 15.5 and the output drops and the cells start to degrade, above 26.6 and it's the same thing. Most ebikes are black, which makes that problem worse. I just watched a video on ebikes and the Lectric they tested was stored at 25.9 C and was up to 35 C within a minute and inside the battery tube it was already 42.7. The point where you start needing to worry about the volativity of the battery cells. This is a problem traditional mopeds don't have and as far as I know. No ebike or electric moped currently has any kind of lithium ion cooling system like electric cars have. Suddenly, I find myself looking at 50cc mopeds (where i live, you don't have to register them at all) because the last year knowing I could get around town and I didn't have to pay some kind of tax or fee to get around town and let the DMV know what I purchased (i mean, it's really none of their business) I really like the idea of just having cheap transportation.
This is a really good moped. Somehow, this and the Metropolitan are currently in the lead for my next purchase. I had planned on $5k usd for a high powered electric moped for for less, these things make a compelling argument. yes, it still uses gas but 4 bucks is 100 miles of range that can get another 100 miles of range in as quickly as 3 minutes at the gas pump. Not something any ebile or electric moped can do.
I have a lot to think about....
@@cerebrix
Get a Honda Cub at $3799!
@@darcychu9652 Are they good?
May you do a review on the 2024 Honda Metropolitan (49cc)?
I'm thinking about getting one of these, gasoline powered instead of Electric.
Hi and greetings ftom Montreal! I,m so happy to have found your channel and watched this video so far. I,m hoping to purchase a Vespa this summer and not sure whether to purchase a 50 or 150 (i have a full motocycle license).
Looking forward to checking out more of your very informative videos - thank you!
I'm glad you found me too! So my general advice is, if you have a motorcycle license, I'd go with the 150. There's nothing that the 150 can't do that the 50 can, and the 150 allows you to go take more roads that can really shorten your trip, or allow you to extend your adventure. There is a cost difference between the two, but if you can swing it, the 150 is the one I would recommend. If you didn't have a motorcycle license, I could sing the praises of a 50cc scooter as I started riding on a small scooter, but since you have the license, you can really introduce a lot of fun and freedom to your life with the 150.
Hi and thanks so much!
Hi, greetings from New Zealand. Would this be okay uphill? I weight 120kgs and wanting to get one of these for uber eats. I don’t mind it slowing down on hills, but would it come to a complete stop if I ride it uphill?
Thanks
Hello, this might be a dumb question, but is the rule about only needing a type C license to operate it applicable only in Italy or in the states too?
I'm from Canada and license requirements in the U.S. and Canada are different for each state and province. I wouldn't know the exact requirements and regulations where you live.
I enjoyed you're Ninja 400 Video a lot! No problem Subscribing with fullbells.
Was there a 'Who' film that sort of featured a Vespa? Quadrophenia?
I knew not much about Vespa's when I stumbled into a store with my Wife in Toronto Downtown featuring Vespa's.
Man, they cost way more than I thought for a simple scooter maybe14 years ago.
I tested for insurance rates at my age out of pure curiosity and got what it thought was about a hundred a month. Greed! So now we have e-Bikes. Time passes way faster when you get older.
How have the costs changed from 15 years ago?
I think they assumed that I had already bought it and had me in their claw. insurance company's were in 'partnerships'. It seemed. "Why compete"? That was Toronto, Ontario.
We're not Toronto! I grew up in Mississauga and lived inToronto in my 20's into my early 30's, and I can tell you that Fredericton is a different place and I love it! Out here there's a market for the 50cc bikes as licensing requirements are simpler, and they also sell Pedego e-bikes at Jim Gilbert's PowerSports. Some of them aren't too far away from the price of a Vespa. Piaggio scooters also makes the Liberty, and that bike is less expensive than the Vespa and shares engines. So there are options!
@@PeterLoweOne
Mississauga Ontario had the GREATEST MAYOR that ever lived!
@@PeterLoweOne
I want to talk to you more, Peter but don't want to become too personal on your channel.
@@davidmacphee3549 Dude!!!! I met Hazel when I was about 10 years old and she was absolutely the best!! She treated me like I was the most important person in the room and there were all kinds of government and business leaders there. Later in my life, my dad had a role that would cross paths with the mayor once a year and she always asked about me. She was awesome!
@@PeterLoweOne 🥰(Peter Loved One).
I got to work for her! Helping building her New City from 1980, as a sort of Security field technician for all the new buildings and homes and industry.
You are flawless in your personality and I bet you got a lot of that inspiration from her as a youth. What a brilliant woman.
Her only regret is that she built her New City too much around the car. If you Do have a car, you love the place!
Whatever she thinks she did wrong then, has been more than fixed. A lot of very happy people now, All thanks to Hazel !
Hi there: Is the Primavera 50 Tech carbureted or fuel-injected?
What are the major differences between the 2022 and 2023 primavera 50cc?
The Primavera is a carryover model. It should be the same other than potentially some colour differences.
@@PeterLoweOne Thank You!
Stupid prices for them
@@Saturntabbytype2 Well, I
bought one and it was totally worth it!!
How many price
Hey! Do you know the difference between the Vespa primavera and sprint
just a design difference basically
In New York City, Do you need to register it with DMV and do you need to buy insurance?
I'm not an expert on NYC, but hopefully someone in the comments will be able to help you.
@@PeterLoweOne and in Canada, how much does it cost an insurance for this kind of vehicle? and the difference in insurance of this 50cc vs a 150 cc? Thank you for your video
Man, they are still so cool!
Haha! Yes they are!!
Why no kick starter?
dear Peter... could you tell me what is the number code for this blue painting, please? Is it Blue Energia or Midnight Blue? The number of the color code would help me a lot ❤ thank you 😊 and greetings from Budapest, Hungary 🎉
Honestly, I'm not sure. I filmed this a while ago, and that unit has sold, so I can't be sure.
@@PeterLoweOne never mind, its okay, at least many thanks for your kind feedback :)
Also, why is the front wheel only mounted on one side? Is It just for the aesthetic?
It's a system that works very well. It has some anti-dive technology that can't be done with a traditional fork, and yeah. It looks cool too. So it's both functional and stylish.
@@PeterLoweOne thank you so much!
It was from the landing gears of Italian fighters after WW II. Later, it became a legacy for easy to change inner tubes after flat.
I just wonder how possible 300 to 500 km roundtrip weekend getaways are on a 50cc.
Huh …….long and wrist aching .i suspect
You cab buy a scooter throttle "cruise control".@@Saturntabbytype2
Top speed on a 50cc is around 60kph possibly 50 in a head win. I’ve done 70kph with a really stiff tailwind. Long distance would certainly be a challenge though an adventure! They are quite comfortable…
Thank you 😊
how many centimeters are you?
One (maybe) stupid question - does Vespa Primavera Mickey Mouse edition has everything that regular Vespa Primavera has (in terms of features)?
My understanding is, yes it does.
How fast does this bike run please? Top speed
Depending on your weight and conditions, it seems to top out near 100 km/h or about 60 mph. You'll see some people go a little faster than that on RUclips, but I would feel safe on these on 90kph roads.
@@PeterLoweOne is that if you unlock it? I ask because everywhere I read I see people say 30mph. Who do I believe here?
@@camaleon18 sorry. I was mistaken and I thought this was the 150cc model. The 50 cc will go just over 50km/h
@@PeterLoweOne Is there a way to make it go faster? To al least 70km/h? I hear of some tuning people make to these type of bikes to unlock their full potential. I would appreciate some feedbacl on that. Thank you.
@@camaleon18
Yes, you can unlock the speed by changing the CDI,.Malossi variators, etc.(there are 80c.c. kits available) up to 95 kph.
There is a funnel in the exhaust pipe to limit the fume need to be rid off.
RUclipsr "Robot" of Vespa Motorsport has one clip dedicated to the mod of 50c.c Vespa.
What is The price?
Up to date pricing can be found on your local vespa website, or at the link in the description to this video. powersports.wheelsanddeals.ca
How many dollard??
Up to date pricing can always be found here: powersports.wheelsanddeals.ca
Perfect for gas conscious fun loving people...
"You meet the nicest people on a Honda"
Slogan of the times as opposed to 'Bad Boy' Bikers.
14 year olds are able to drive them on the road legally? I didn't know that.
It depends on where you live, but the licensing requirements in New Brunswick allow that. There is still a test required, so I shouldn't be someone's sole source of information, but these do sell to 14 year old riders here.
@@PeterLoweOne
I built a Ham Radio by 14 Years old from a kit. (Hw-12 Heathkit).
Young people should not be underestimated. I learned Morse, got licenced and was able to talk with it all over the World with it without Internet. Of course my School Grades Sucked, never got any sleep, but I still have my Radio.
I'm poor and autistic-I would love a Piaggio or Aprilia but I fear all i can afford is a Venom Roma-I won't go as chaep as a Tao. I don't trust stealerships, plan to do all maintenance myself. I am shocked just one front fork.
Do You Vespa?
2nd again
Cuánto cuestan $ valioo prais
1st
Canadians speaking words with ou in them really jump out at Americans.
It's abOUt time someone noticed! 🤣
Great bike but way way over priced id rather spend my worthless money on a motorbike
If it's something you don't want, it's easy to say it's over priced. I know plenty of people who bought this and feel they got fair value for their money. It's ok if it's not for you, I'm glad it exists!
buy a ceaper one and it will not be good. I buy a good one (my Vespa) and i buy it only once. It runs many many years. And the best. Its Cool. greezt from Germany