I’m 42 and have lived just a rowdy life as anyone. Forcing a chick to touch your d### has never been acceptable behavior, unless you’re a scum bag. Anyone that did that to a woman in my family wouldn’t get shamed on the internet, they’d become a eunuch.
@@mg9138 What a comeback! lol. But ok, I can cover that base too, forcing a dude to touch a d### has never been acceptable either, unless you're a scum bag. Great job defining yourself.
I feel like he is trying to say how people come back years later and say this was bad. She should have said something then. It is how social media has changed our lives and made everyone using somewhat crazy. Also I just read on social media an article about forgiving and not judging a lady that got drunk then drove and killed someone. But people will say if Rick did this he is much worse than her.
Yeah this is by far the best podcast, they cover everything but never get too distracted. I’d love to sit down & have like a 4 hour conversation on everything from Wrestling to music, to sports, & politics.
The editing didn’t do Tommy any favors, but neither did Tommy’s comment. He seemed to go above and beyond to downplay everything that happened on that plane and agreed to go on the show. It doesn’t take a genius to know “dark side of the ring” is going to tell stories of heinous shit, not fun stories of boys being boys and having fun.
Everybody celebrated this type of behavior from Ric Flair until they saw an old woman cry about it on a TV show and then everyone turns into 🦸♀️ Super Simp If you heard all of the stories about him over the years and you just assumed that 100% of the women were consensual, I don't know what to tell you. You're just naive. Tommy Dreamer comes from a time where this was a fraternity and the boys always had the boys back. Dreamer understands that Ric Flair doesn't need to push himself on anyone because there is a ready and willing right around the corner no matter where he is. This was a gag. It was an inappropriate gag by a dude that grew up in the Wild Wild West of the pro wrestling genre. If you went back and followed any of those guys for a whole 24 hours in the 1970s you would come back to 2021 ready to "cancel" everybody. Go after Ric if you think it makes you look like the *most* virtuous but leave Tommy Dreamer alone.
The problem is she wasnt in the room when Tommy said what he said. Also when did h do the interview? They chop these things up for ratings. Also VICE is a shity bunch of scumbags. I wouldnt trust mush of what they do
@@Evl_1 Again, taking Vice and video editing out of this. What were Tommy’s expectations giving an interview on “The Plane ride from hell” on “Dark Side of the Ring?” He wasn’t threatened to give an interview, he elected to do this. Why would he think this is a hit piece on the stewardess and not on the wrestlers? What did he expect? They would cut his whole interview out of the episode? It’s pretty obvious if you make an ass of yourself in front of a camera for a television show they are going to air it.
It may not. But then don't take the money and run. Then when the money runs out you steal jewelry and when that runs out/do your time, you open your mouth on a nda I'm positive she signed just for another pay day gtfoh and I despise flair but hate that gold digging woman who I'd bet my life wants more money and spotlight
@@1983jcheat I'm loving these new sound effects that block the cussing. The beep is boring. But the different sound effects throughout the interview are great.
I’ve never watched DSotR, and I never will. Vice is a left wing channel and those wrestlers got what they deserved for cooperating with them. It’s just churched up shoot videos.
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL well some of the people in modern day wrestling are Ignoring him ,getting booed at Wrestlemania in Tampa is a terrible sight to see
All those fuckers deserve it. I'd say the only redeemable one would be dreamer, he just needs to learn why what he said was so inappropriate and uneducated
@@nate6930 punk has been saying that he hated hogan his entire life. It doesn’t have anything to do with hogan being a racist doucheface. It’s just the doucheface part. He said hogan was an egomaniac who he thought sucked on the mic and in the ring and he shouldn’t have had such strong creative control. He’s came out over the last several years and said he hates him even more after meeting him and after the racist stuff but punks hatred goes back to purely a wrestling opinion.
Here's my take on this. Anything you do in the past that ends up hurting someone or pissing them off will ultimately come back and haunt you in the future. No cancel culture or social justice applied. It's just plain karma.
That's not necessarily true they cancelled Tommy Dreamer because of the way they edited that video we have no idea what questions he was asked and what he knew the girl said or anyting but it was strong together to make him look worse. Even at the end of the day with him saying what he said he deserves to lose all his money and no longer work? Not to mention the conflicting reports over the years of that story. I mean we saw an episode of a show that is meant to be dramatic and now we all know exactly what happened on that plane? That's literally cancel culture especially the Tommy Dreamer portion.
Disco walking s fine line of victim blaming and acting as if the victim should be over it by now. Please stop weighing on things you aren't qualified to discuss.
Cornette put it very well. He said that in the 80's, all of the women that came to the shows were willing participants, but things changed by the late 90's, and wrestlers were encountering a lot of people that weren't smart to the business. As a result, they couldn't get away with the things that they did in the 80's. He told several stories of seeing Ric Flair's helicopter, and said it was often done at the request of the women who were present. He said that Flair was simply a casualty of thtimes, and that he was still trying to do shit that he couldn't get away with when he was in his 50s.
I don't know if Disco is playing a character, but not knowing how PTSD affects victims makes him sound like an idiot. Maybe he should have read the Bell curve on this
I don't remember any era where it was acceptable for an old man to expose himself on an airplane and force themselves on a flight attendant or anyone else on a plane. Even worse is that may not have been the worst thing Flair's ever done.
@@antonycuff4512 Maybe she has been to therapy but she wants her story to be told because if he is guilty he is guilty. I was assaulted 19 years ago and I didn't even know I had untreated trauma until a couple years ago in therapy. Her telling her story may get her some public support and affirmation that she is not alone.
No Disco, she didn't speak up because she was silenced by her company, and that also was the terms of the lawsuit settlement. Dreamer victim shamed her and said that "she was only in it for the money", so he deserved his suspension imo. Sexual assault is never ok, no matter how long ago it was.
This was one of those epic discussions/disagreements which makes this show so great to listen to. I don’t care how much heat Disco gets because at the end of the day, you are never going to cancel him as long as he is on K100. And to me, that’s a wonderful thing.
This just shows how lost this generation is. Unfortunately there was a time where sexual harassment was acceptable regardless of what your lunch table at school says
@@maxwelljacobfreedom no mate… it’s just we didn’t have social media back then and the wrestlers kept secrets between themselves when it came to stuff like this.
@@1983jcheat Flair's behavior was never acceptable no matter what decade he wrestled in. The 70s 80's 90's and 2000s. The only people that ever found his actions to be acceptable are those in the wrestling business which is full of people like him.
We all know about the plane ride from hell. It’s a open secret in the wrestling community. People know Ric Flair is a freak and messy man backstage. There are some stories about Ric Flair did some dirty sh*t in his career. And now Ric Flair past caught up to him. Moral of the story - What you did in the dark will come to the light. Side Note: Dark Side Of The Ride series is more of the educational side of what you don’t do in the wrestling business.
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL Did Shane Douglas is blacklisted for standing up to Ric Flair? Yes, He stopped Ric Flair trying to rape Johnny Ace ex girlfriend Marti. If I was Tony Khan I would hired Shane Douglas as manager or coach for AEW.
I've made horrible mistakes since I was 16 and now I'm 32 I'm a completely different person. I would at thr very least condemn my younger self for being a f&cking idiot. Yet being twice that age. I am no longer that person. I learned, regretted what I did and asked forgiveness from those involved. What would be bad, especially being on a public eye in this day and age is trying to be grey and subtle about anything. social justice warriors only see black and white and if like tommy dreamer you make a grey statement, you're sadly going to be screwed all the same if you had said something purely negative....
Shoot to me RVD casually saying he saw guys drugging women to rape them was the biggest bomb shell. For him to idly stand by and let it go down is jacked up. He should name those guys honestly
in all honesty it seemed to me RVD looked really disgusted when he's talking bout it. Van Dam probably couldn't do anything bout it cuz the guys responsible were probably bout as high profile as Flair. in other words, nobody would probably believe Van Dam or Van Dam may have been likely fired if word got out that 1 of the top guys was drugging women and raping em.
Gold dust was the only one that did anything and they made it seem like him singing on a PA and spitting in the back of the seat was the worst thing on the flight.
DI has obviously never had anyone assaulted in his life... it can take a lot of time for someone to feel comfortable enough to say something.... there's no time frame... My family unfortunately knows this all too well...
Yeah he's really having trouble zeroing in on the idea that This happened and is messed up. He keeps generalizing it so he can keep it in a grey area for himself.
the sweet irony of all of this is that Tommy Dreamer used to come on K100 and give Disco a hard time for "talking without thinking". Well done Dreamer, you didn't take your own advice.
@@ronniejdio9411 It's a wonder the WWE doesn't have you on their legal team, afterall you can't settle multiple lawsuits over allegations, right? So weird the WWE did though.
Dreamer decided to insinuate that this woman, who lost her job over the issue & has to eventually explain to her daughter what happened to her, only wanted a payday, & then equated a highly influential guy showing his junk to a non-consenting woman in her work place to him having a ponytail. Yes he should be cancelled, also he looks like a blobfish now so get him off TV altogether.
It’s actually smart by Impact, because of Cancel culture , the snowflakes will cry for someone to get canned. Impact got ahead of it and took Dreamer out of the line of fire and thus spared the public backlash.
The only thing I don’t like about “Dark Side Of The Ring” is that they have an obvious relationship with AEW. It makes me question the way some things are presented. The way they let Dustin off easy on the plane ride episode was incredibly suspect to me. The things he was accused of in the lawsuit are every bit as bad as what Flair was accused of. I know people will bring up the fact that the flight attendant who accused Dustin was not interviewed for the show but I have to believe any other documentary crew would have at least mentioned what the accusations were.
@@omnientertainment5852 I’m not a fanboy for WWE at all. I’ve rooted against them for a large portion of my life. I was a big WCW fan until the bitter end and I stopped watching wrestling for a while after they were sold to the WWF. I was also a huge TNA fan until about 2015. I criticize WWE’s product all the time. I watch about 25% of all WWE shows nowadays. I could not tell you what most of the matches are for tonight’s WWE ppv. I’m just not an AEW fanboy either. I try to look at things objectively and I called out a bias where I thought I saw one. I also saw a lot of AEW fans saying that they thought it was odd how easy Dustin got off on this DOSR episode. If you assume I must be a WWE fanboy based off my comment then it might be you who is unable to look at things objectively.
@@SylentEcho The plane ride from hell lawsuit has an accusation against Dustin from a different flight attendant than the one interviewed on DSOR. Here’s the accusation according to the lawsuit... “Defendant Runnels grabbed Plaintiff Cappellano’s arms repeatedly, asked if her breasts were real, said “you and me are gonna ****”, and grabbed her rear end, rubbing his groin into her.”
I think one thing that was barely mentioned in that episode was the flight company itself. They mentioned that the company usually does private flights with sports teams. Im sure the company has overlooked a bunch of similar behavior in the guise of pleasing the client, leaving these women to just "do their job" and deal with it, which a bunch of bull shit in it's own right.
I love how people try to impose today's culture and Sensibility to the Past even 20-30 years ago. They do it to punish people who aren't good enough by today's standards? That whole episode seemed to be cut in such a way to have the most impact on everything.
There's never been a time when a wealthy, powerful guy can show his private parts to a woman, without her consent, & in her work environment, & have it be OK. In fact we KNOW it wasn't OK then because several wrestlers were fired & the WWE paid to keep the flight attendants quiet, & Jim Ross straight up acknowledges Flair got a pass because of his stature.
@@mr.fantastic1854 incorrect. where do you propose that it stops? In 10 years do we go back to now And reprimand people? Do we not allow people to change with the times ? Is everyone retroactively victimized ? You think we're creating some kind of utopia where we go back to Old stories and retell them out of context with today's sensibilities and punish people accordingly? Thanks for the one-sentence comment and no actual take or input. You know someone could probably go back through your life and find things you did it wrong according to today's standards we should probably think about that. Speaking on Tommy Dreamer they cut the episode in such a way to make it look like he was responding directly to her as she was talking about the way she felt she wasn't in the same room as her you don't even know what questions they asked him, for him to be chastised and to lose his living because of that is ridiculous and it's a Witch Hunt that won't stop.
Ric flair gets cancelled like every year it feels like lol. These kind of episodes explain why wwe had to clean it up they were a traveling lawsuit waiting to happen.
Tommy Dreamer deserved his punishment for the lack of self-awareness alone. How can you be so stupid to don't understand the current climate and the way those kind of shows are framed to make people look bad? Ric Flair at least didn't take the bait and refused to appear just like Lesnar cause they know it was basically an inquisition tribune, but Dreamer completely fell for it and started to downplay something that was already framed as heinous
The difference being that this particular woman was not throwing herself at anyone. She was a professional that was used to being around NBA stars on a routine basis.
I gave up on wrestling in 1996 and i wasn't even a huge fan at that time. It was Dark Side's first episode that reeled me in hook, line and sinker. Am with K for this entire clip.
@@pleaseshutup7053 I know Adrian petererson fought dogs or beat his son with an extension cord. And then the other guy who punched that girl hard in the elevator. They need to re do it with better stories
@@totes8363 Peterson's son was beaten to death by his mother's new boyfriend. Michael Vick fought dogs. And Ray Rice hit his girlfriend. Get it right ffs.
It happened 20 years ago and they settled out of court. II's over and done but not for the lady who had to relive it. That was hard for her but Tommy made himself look dumb for his "boys will be boys" comments so that's on him. I was like wow, drugs and alcohol on the plane. Grown men acting like fools. SMH. Wrestlers are human and we are not perfect. ijs
Disco doesn't understand what the issue is. What you do amongst your own group or with receptive people is one thing. It's when people on the outside are forced into it that's the problem. It's not about "cancel culture" or anything else, and to see Disco (and frankly Konan as well) intentionally make it about anything other than Flair imposing himself on someone who didn't want it and Tommy's banal attitude is such bullcrap.
@@jesuszamora6949 It seemed like Tommy didn't know about the woman's claims of assault. He just thought they were talking about Ric doing his twirling trick and how it made her uncomfortable.
Tommy Dreamer is not being judged for the entirety of his life. He is being judged for comparing 2 ponytails on his head, LAST WEEK, to a woman who says a man forced himself on her. Disco maxe some good points, but that falls way flat
I'm usually one of Disco's biggest defenders but he could not sound dumber if he tried here. This is nothing at all to do with "times changing" it's about people doing the wrong thing. So sick of Disco saying the exact same thing for every topic "cancel culture BLAH BLAH BLAH".
@@maxwelljacobfreedom I wonder if it was a Black man that did that to a White female flight attendant, would you feel the same way? Stop the crap. I am 45 and Disco is an idiot and contradicted himself in this segment. He basically wants a Darkside episode on Hardbody Harrison. In his opinion that would be a good story. Hardbody is a Black man. But in the same breath he didn't want the Plane Ride From Hell because it buried Flair. Make that make sense.
I'm pretty sure Dreamer didn't know the whole story despite actually being there. I don't think he saw Flair corner the flight attendant and/or grab her arm or whatever which is assault. I don't think he saw her interview either. He probably would've been less critical of Flairs accuser. Impact should have made him do sensitivity classes instead of basically firing him. I bet Brock Lesnar's still employed, but WWE takes the woo out of their show openings. Lame!
@joe blanco The guy had no idea. Because in his mind, they all saw him naked so it’s like wow she can sue but we aren’t? The wrestlers never saw him grab her. Apparently RVD didn’t either, what he was saying was Flair was hitting on her naked, saying for her to ‘feel the nature boy’ and stuff, they just edited out that bit. That!s why he keeps talking when they cut to something else. I think the lady exaggerates. After all, she seems to be an opportunist (she robbed a jewellery store apparently). Like apparently Hall grabbed her and said a whole bunch of stuff that was sexually harassing her but one of them was ‘i’m gonna lick you’.
@@outis439-A dreamer even said he never saw flair doing anything inappropriate whenever they traveled to a female. That’s just a man giving his honest perspective and he’s cancelled for that?
Sensitivity training? Who the hell wants to watch pro Wrestlers who have been neutured by the HR dept? This is why modern mainstream pro wrestling is unwatchable trash. The babyfaces from 20 years ago were more edgy/interesting than the modern day heels.
@@outis439-A fact is, that woman nullified her right to pursue legal action when she accepted the cash settlement. She's clearly hit the wall, likely broke, and is probably emboldened by the current MeToo craze.
That girl was assaulted and Disco is basically saying "why hasn't she gotten over this by now?" What a weak man.. Wouldn't be surprised if he was dropping shit in girls drinks back in the day too.
@P1 Styles I don't think that would have gotten me, but if it were Roseanne or Kevin Spacey, you bet your ass I would still be traumatized. Everybody is different and not every woman wanted to ride on space mountain, much less be forced into touching a drunk Flair. It's all about perspective.
I don't know about you guys but im dying to know who was yelling" we're all gonna die"😂😂😂while Brock was tussling with perfect, that plane ride really sounds like it was a good time tho
Hahahahhahha the “Pico pal que Lee” means “give a Dick to the guy that reads this” Hahahhahahaha they got you Disco, I’m Chilean and I love your podcast! Keep the good work! 🇨🇱
Cancel culture is 🐂💩this story is old and happened when times were different !!! I will never cancel Ric flair,he and other wrestler's have talked about this stuff happening all the time.now everybody's feelings get hurt get over it!!! This is the life of pro wrestlers
Yeah we've actually always had a word for guys who go up to women while they're at work & expose themselves before making the women touch their privates, we've called them "perverts." Don't be a pervert & don't defend perverts, it's pretty telling that you have a problem with that.
@@CM-jc7gk My statement was obviously generalized when I mentioned culture. Clearly, I wouldn't include illegal crimes like exposing yourself as we have established them as actions of societal ill repute. I referenced differing opinions as one example to give the reader an idea of the level of dispute I was referring to, but I guess it was too far above your head. The term "Mistakes" isn't limited to crimes or perversion either. One doesn't have to like or agree with Dreamer's POV, but should he lose everything for not believing someone's side of a story based on what he saw and heard at the time? Why is she entitled to be believed, but someone else that was there isn't. I'm not saying Dreamer is right, but again freedom of speech allows us the ability to speak our minds "freely" and without recourse. Thank you for proving my point by jumping to a conclusion of what you think I meant and trying to come off as holier than thou. It tells everyone all they need to know about you.
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL pal be real. Before his daughter ever made a dollar in wrestling, who was the person buying every Flair robe and championship belt he ever had?
Every Industry has a "dark side". DSOTR just happens to cover the dark side of the wrestling industry, you can't say it buries the business or hurts the business when they're talking about shit that actually went down. It's not like they're making these stories up. The United States has a fucked up history but I still love this country, proud to be an American, and wouldn't want to live anywhere else. I can watch DSOTR and still be a wrestling fan and proud to have been a fan the last 25 years of my life.
@@ronniejdio9411 If every episode has bs added to it then why do guys like Jim Cornette, Arn Anderson, Rob Van Dam, etc. continue to appear? Not to mention Chris Jericho narrates the program, he's a well respected all time great who would have NOTHING to do with a show that is tabloid fodder.
@@Lalo_thr The purpose of Dark side is simple, its team AEW burying WWE. Its Jericho furthering his business interests. Its so obvious i dont know why people think its some sort of objective documentary.
Yeah but they're known to be highly dramatic and they're not a beacon of journalistic integrity. I mean just the way that they cut up the video and edited it shows they were trying to put their own little spin on it. They basically made it so Tommy Dreamer looks like he's talking to that girl and telling her shut up and that's not what it was. I'm sure there's things they blew way out of proportion and they weren't on the plane so that was just one depiction. On top of that this was already settled when the lady said she'll take money instead of punishing her abuser supposedly? I think we can all say we actually don't know exactly what happened
@@erikaw7767 What came out of Tommy Dreamer's mouth was out of line any way you slice it. There was no "editing", he wasn't reading from a script, he wasn't forced at gun point to say what he said. Even if his comments were placed at the start of the show instead of at the end as suggested by Konnan, I disagree with him, it STILL would have been a big controversy because what he said was terrible.
lol I like Disco, but seriously… and then if someone tries to cut him off, he raises his voice and says LET ME FINISH when someone tries to cut him off.
@@andysalter7192 it really, because disco wants any and all past crimes committed by anyone in wrestling to be left alone. He’s of the same mindset of the defenders of the aforementioned men; we have to protect our business, we have to cover these stories up, and don’t talk to the media about them.
Woke culture is annoying and a problem but Disco is way off the mark here. You had grown men harassing and assaulting women. This BS wasn't cool or accepted in 2002.
The comments made by Disco Inferno no way represent keeping it 100. He is suspended until further notice after he takes sensitivity training and understands what he did wrong
I really think Disco missed the point. It doesn't matter if it was in the 90s or 2000s sexual assault can't compare to getting slapped by the boys. Let's not defend assaults for nostalgia. Also let's not cancel people for things they did not do.
Actions have consequences. In the past the victims took the majority of those consequences. Things have changed. I hate this situation, but can't feel bad for Ric or Tommy.
@@ramesis55 Sexual harassment is a joke to me. Sexual assault is the thing most people should put their energy towards. Also, if you have to bring up something 20 years later instead of right then and there, it was that big of a deal.
@@pleaseshutup7053 we are “living in the past” cause the current product (wwe) is *trash.* I haven’t watched a live show in years but I enjoy this podcast. If you don’t like it leave
Disco sounds like he supports sexual harassment. "That's just the way it was in those days" is not a valid defense for exposing yourself to someone and putting their hand on your junk.
Rvd said it was commonplace for people to put drugs in women's drinks to knock them out and then "have their way with them". Fuck these guys if they wanna say it was just the way things were back then
Tell disco that Dark Side Of The Ring got me back into wrestling. I hadn't watched it since 2002 and now I watch AEW pretty regularly soo he may be a litle wrong
Theres pros and cons on both sides of the argument. I find it hard to believe, regardless of what the wrestling culture was, that wrestlers assumed EVERY woman they came across wanted to see ric flairs dick. She wasn't a groupie in a hotel room she was a flight attendant at her job. On the otherhand she did take a payoff it that should have been the end of the litigation on the matter. In that respect I understand tommy dreamers view.
For what it's worth, Flair said in an interview years ago that the stewardesses were also drinking and everyone at the time was having a good time. It wasn't until later on they started to view the situation differently for financial gain. I've been to a lot of bars. When people get super drunk, shit tends to get a bit crazy. Sort of comes with the territory. It's called drunken behavior, people aren't in their right state of minds. This generation of wrestling fans just can't relate, they suck soy lattes and pop 11 anti depressants a day. I'm not defending Flair's actions, just saying. He was hammered. It's not an excuse, but an explanation for something that took place during a different day and age. Regardless, this women came off like a total actor to me during the episode. She was fine with taking the payoff but now suddenly wants her me too moment "Flair was inebriated on the flight and flashed me his cock look at me!!" which is probably why Dreamer had the attitude he did.
You realize she was also pressured not to do anything about it by her husband and the airline right? Regardless, if she wants to make a deal about it 20, 30, 40 years later it doesn't matter. I'll take the current crop of wrestlers nowadays NOT making jackasses of themselves over the bullies and idiots from that era any day. Dreamer has daughters, if Flair flopped his dick out in front of one of them and told them to touch it I 100 percent guarantee we wouldn't be having this back and forth discussion about the issue. Dreamer would have killed the man.
Great look on the topic to say "For what it's worth, the person involved said the women were drinking", might as well flatly say "the women were wearing makeup, skirts & missed a button on the top of their shirt so they wanted the attention." An all around heinous sense of logic.
Anyone else find it interesting that Dustin Rhodes just seems to get a free pass, and his antics on the Plane Ride From Hell aren't even mentioned? "Defendant Runnels grabbed Plaintiff Cappellano’s arms repeatedly, asked if her breasts were real, said “you and me are gonna ****”, and grabbed her rear end, rubbing his groin into her." Tommy Dreamer gets fired from two jobs for basically defending Flair. Flair is cancelled and thrown under the bus. Dustin sexual assaulted a flight attendant according to the court documents and no one in AEW or elsewhere says anything. I'm not defending Flair but seems like a double standard to me.
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL Conrad thompson does episodes of darkside called confidential with the two guys that do the show. It's a more in depth look at stuff on the show. He also releases them with grilling Jr's podcast.
Has anyone seen any news about the flight attendant featured in the Vice documentary having a past conviction for thousand in Jewelry? I saw a fan post a story on Twitter from years back but no one else
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL Any good lawyer would bring character into this, was there more than just that? Is there any reason to believe she's exaggerating any of her claims for money? Ultimately given how the flight attendants story played out I'd love to hear Dustin Rhodes take on how this played out since he was the one wrestler she said came to stop Ric
@@scottdecowski4913 WWE paid Doyle in a settlement 18 yrs ago. Sorry shoot down your theory that's obviously illinformed. And if she has a conviction so F'N what. It's irrelevant.
@P1 Styles How much they paid Tommy or anybody who has appeared? Just cause you have anonymity shouldn't mean you should put your stupidity on display bro.
Disco is 100% right. This show is the dark side but only the dark side of older wrestling. I bet they wont touch modern wrestling with Joey Ryan and the super clique, Speaking out 2020, wrestling fake news (Meltzer) and propaganda, Teddy Hart, Japanese Idol Wrestling and the sex stuff with that etc etc. the only time they do modern stuff is to promote Nick Gage and how AEW stans love him. Hell the shows optics are basically aew stars are good and the rest of the industry is bad, just from optics..
Really? Never heard of movies like The Accused (1988), Disclosure (1994), Unforgiven (1992), Sleepers (1996), Thelma and Louise (1991), The Crow (1994)? Sexual assault was never acceptable and it would seem popular media at the time reinforces that perception. "Having a good time" with consenting adults... always acceptable. Banging ring rats is okay, chasing after disinterested civvies is bad.
There was a time where it was ok for Roman emperors to sexually assault boys and the wives of the wealthy elite. Are you going to say i can't look back at that and not think that was terrible?
She’s a crook. She lost all credibility. I stopped listening to R. Kelly after I heard the rumor he married Aliyah. I would slap Disco too. Drunk or sober.
EARL SKAKEL talks about JEREMY PIVEN becoming a stand up comedian after getting ME TOO'ED ruclips.net/video/eUPlvHm_O-o/видео.html
Hugheezy is a comedy genius.
@@Eloh_Dragons yes, why yes i am
I’m 42 and have lived just a rowdy life as anyone. Forcing a chick to touch your d### has never been acceptable behavior, unless you’re a scum bag. Anyone that did that to a woman in my family wouldn’t get shamed on the internet, they’d become a eunuch.
100%
nothing unacceptable about it. you are gay.
@@mg9138 What a comeback! lol. But ok, I can cover that base too, forcing a dude to touch a d### has never been acceptable either, unless you're a scum bag. Great job defining yourself.
Disco's logic: everyone does bad stuff so we can't hold anyone accountable for anything
Classic whataboutism
Just cuz they do something shitty doesn't excuse other shit behavior
I feel like he is trying to say how people come back years later and say this was bad. She should have said something then. It is how social media has changed our lives and made everyone using somewhat crazy. Also I just read on social media an article about forgiving and not judging a lady that got drunk then drove and killed someone. But people will say if Rick did this he is much worse than her.
It would of been her word against a plane full of celebrity’s words. She wouldn’t of been taken seriously.
@@TrappedSKuaD My guess is she got money, and now that money is gone.
@@swah25 If you wanna be cynical sure
Love when they have clips that are longer than 2 - 3min. Really good listen
You can literally get the whole show for free or on patreon.
if it was up to me, every clip would be like this. I don't like the shorter clips myself.
@@subj3ctt0chang3 how would we listen for free if you don't mind me asking good sir
@@thehashslingingslasher4264 it's a podcast dude... you didn't know?
Yeah this is by far the best podcast, they cover everything but never get too distracted. I’d love to sit down & have like a 4 hour conversation on everything from Wrestling to music, to sports, & politics.
Dreamer is getting more scrutiny than Flair. Flair is still a made man obviously.
Boys will be boys
Flair is, and was a big POS. No class, not a good person, and a complete rip off in gimmick and ring style.
@Portrait of a Azz Grabber that's harsh lol
The editing didn’t do Tommy any favors, but neither did Tommy’s comment. He seemed to go above and beyond to downplay everything that happened on that plane and agreed to go on the show. It doesn’t take a genius to know “dark side of the ring” is going to tell stories of heinous shit, not fun stories of boys being boys and having fun.
Everybody celebrated this type of behavior from Ric Flair until they saw an old woman cry about it on a TV show and then everyone turns into 🦸♀️ Super Simp
If you heard all of the stories about him over the years and you just assumed that 100% of the women were consensual, I don't know what to tell you. You're just naive.
Tommy Dreamer comes from a time where this was a fraternity and the boys always had the boys back. Dreamer understands that Ric Flair doesn't need to push himself on anyone because there is a ready and willing right around the corner no matter where he is. This was a gag. It was an inappropriate gag by a dude that grew up in the Wild Wild West of the pro wrestling genre.
If you went back and followed any of those guys for a whole 24 hours in the 1970s you would come back to 2021 ready to "cancel" everybody. Go after Ric if you think it makes you look like the *most* virtuous but leave Tommy Dreamer alone.
Well said
His facials
The problem is she wasnt in the room when Tommy said what he said. Also when did h do the interview? They chop these things up for ratings. Also VICE is a shity bunch of scumbags. I wouldnt trust mush of what they do
@@Evl_1 Again, taking Vice and video editing out of this. What were Tommy’s expectations giving an interview on “The Plane ride from hell” on “Dark Side of the Ring?” He wasn’t threatened to give an interview, he elected to do this. Why would he think this is a hit piece on the stewardess and not on the wrestlers? What did he expect? They would cut his whole interview out of the episode? It’s pretty obvious if you make an ass of yourself in front of a camera for a television show they are going to air it.
"Does Chileans speak Spanish?" I can 100% confirm every other Spanish speaking country asks the same thing 😂
LOL. No, there like us Northeast Ricans we don't speak Spanish just hoodlum. We can only say Platanito, Cabrones and Money.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Confirmo es verdad
Noooo
???? Don Francisco? [x]
Trauma doesn't have an expiration date!
Exactly, Disco is comparing a slap to some guy showing his wang to a lady.
@P1 Styles don't confuse other women with your mother
Great point man
It may not. But then don't take the money and run. Then when the money runs out you steal jewelry and when that runs out/do your time, you open your mouth on a nda I'm positive she signed just for another pay day gtfoh and I despise flair but hate that gold digging woman who I'd bet my life wants more money and spotlight
But there is a statute of limitations
Disco seem like the guy thats cool with stuff until its his family
This^
agreed, he's not seeing the bigger picture here at all.
@Manismi RAMP There are even some that even with video evidence of the whole act will still say the women deserved it somehow so yeah.
The sound effects when Konnan was making his point tho, really dude? 😂😂
10/10
And what happens on AEW flights? Tony Khan tucks everyone in the bed and sings them lullabies
They fly on regular airplanes just like WWE do. Vince did this to help the boys after a grueling European tour. Turned into a bad idea.
No such thing as an AEW Flight. They aren't getting private planes, they're flying with everyone else.
@@jasonfrost6448 it was a JOKE you idiot
@@EmoEmu DUH, YA THINK?
That’d be great; big improvement over sexual assault and drugging drinks.
Listening to this is like watching a R rated movie on Network TV back in 1992. That rooster sound effect was too funny.
The rooster effect killed me
@@GV213 It was so random. Good comedy.
@@1983jcheat I'm loving these new sound effects that block the cussing. The beep is boring. But the different sound effects throughout the interview are great.
yea it is funny i hope they use it more often....
is this Joe's new gimmick? LOL waiting for someone else to make a good point and then just repeat it? LOL, i'd do it too I think
poorie tang
I’ve never watched DSotR, and I never will. Vice is a left wing channel and those wrestlers got what they deserved for cooperating with them. It’s just churched up shoot videos.
@@travismcdonald6576 yup like Dustin Rhodes in the plane ride from hell where he harassed a flight attendant
Maybe it's good if you leave your fox bubble dog.
@@javi2567 Fox News is ghey and cringe
The only thing worse than being left wing is being right wing.
Oh right no wonder the dsotr video tone gave me the vice vibe.
Hogan saying to Flair and Dreamer "welcome to getting cancelled Brothers"
Hogan isn't cancelled.
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL well some of the people in modern day wrestling are Ignoring him ,getting booed at Wrestlemania in Tampa is a terrible sight to see
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL I disagree look at wrestlemania and wrestlers are still burying him, in fact cm punk just did recently
All those fuckers deserve it. I'd say the only redeemable one would be dreamer, he just needs to learn why what he said was so inappropriate and uneducated
@@nate6930 punk has been saying that he hated hogan his entire life. It doesn’t have anything to do with hogan being a racist doucheface. It’s just the doucheface part. He said hogan was an egomaniac who he thought sucked on the mic and in the ring and he shouldn’t have had such strong creative control. He’s came out over the last several years and said he hates him even more after meeting him and after the racist stuff but punks hatred goes back to purely a wrestling opinion.
if that lady was your family, you people would be ready for war.. but because Ric Flair is a wrestler y'all think it's ok? SMDH
@P1 Styles gotta be dreamers burner account...
@P1 Styles i really hope this never happens to someone in your family.
Here's my take on this. Anything you do in the past that ends up hurting someone or pissing them off will ultimately come back and haunt you in the future. No cancel culture or social justice applied. It's just plain karma.
Oh no the consequences of my actions!
Any mob can say karma is on their side.
That's not necessarily true they cancelled Tommy Dreamer because of the way they edited that video we have no idea what questions he was asked and what he knew the girl said or anyting but it was strong together to make him look worse. Even at the end of the day with him saying what he said he deserves to lose all his money and no longer work? Not to mention the conflicting reports over the years of that story. I mean we saw an episode of a show that is meant to be dramatic and now we all know exactly what happened on that plane? That's literally cancel culture especially the Tommy Dreamer portion.
@@erikaw7767 Well, he talked about her going to the court at getting a settlement, so he wasn't 100% clueless.
Karma seems to target certain groups of people only, so this is a dumbass take.
Clearly, it's aimed at certain people.
Dark Side of the Ring episode focusing on the rise and fall of Konnan’s fashion choices
there was a rise?
Disco walking s fine line of victim blaming and acting as if the victim should be over it by now.
Please stop weighing on things you aren't qualified to discuss.
"victim"
You're a base level mob member trying to silence debate.
Please stop existing.
@@darrengordon-hill Amen!
Cornette put it very well. He said that in the 80's, all of the women that came to the shows were willing participants, but things changed by the late 90's, and wrestlers were encountering a lot of people that weren't smart to the business. As a result, they couldn't get away with the things that they did in the 80's. He told several stories of seeing Ric Flair's helicopter, and said it was often done at the request of the women who were present. He said that Flair was simply a casualty of thtimes, and that he was still trying to do shit that he couldn't get away with when he was in his 50s.
I call cap on all of that Jim is over blowing it every women wasn’t there to fuck
There's a difference between someone who's a willing participant & someone who's there to do her job.
@@Aj6711 they had old grannies in the front row in his era, so I certainly hope not.
@@Aj6711 That's not what he said or the point he was making
“Do Chileans speak Portuguese?” Christ Disco 😂
As far as this Latino knows, they do. No, they speak Yiddish.
@@1983jcheat I thought they spoke Korean 🇰🇷
Everyone knows Chileans speak Patois... LORDA MURCAY! LOL!
I’m Mexican/Portuguese and I speak Spanish
@@robertobravo5732 I believe they do, back East we don't see many. Mostly Puerto Ricans, Cubans, Ecuadorians and Dominicans over here.
I don't know if Disco is playing a character, but not knowing how PTSD affects victims makes him sound like an idiot. Maybe he should have read the Bell curve on this
I don't remember any era where it was acceptable for an old man to expose himself on an airplane and force themselves on a flight attendant or anyone else on a plane. Even worse is that may not have been the worst thing Flair's ever done.
@@wizzerwiser2056 How do we know these charges are true?
@@wizzerwiser2056 you never has groupies why would know anything about that?
If she has PTSD she should be talking to a therapist not a TV show which probably isn't going to bring anything good into her life !
@@antonycuff4512 Maybe she has been to therapy but she wants her story to be told because if he is guilty he is guilty. I was assaulted 19 years ago and I didn't even know I had untreated trauma until a couple years ago in therapy. Her telling her story may get her some public support and affirmation that she is not alone.
No Disco, she didn't speak up because she was silenced by her company, and that also was the terms of the lawsuit settlement. Dreamer victim shamed her and said that "she was only in it for the money", so he deserved his suspension imo. Sexual assault is never ok, no matter how long ago it was.
It’s almost like disco’s hiding some skeletons in his closet.
She shouldn’t have settled and spoke out
@@josieeee8 the court system is designed to encourage you to settle out of court. Many victims settle.
@@arman_1024 Taking into consideration the crap that took place in ECW, I would be surprised if he didn't.
@@arman_1024 It feels like he was more defending the culture of the time and his participation in in more than Flair.
Damn those sound effects lol
glad you like it, there were so many bleeps in this one i thought i had to mix it up somehow.
9:13 I heard what KONNAN was trying to do! LOL And Disco kept talking over him hoping he would drop it!
This was one of those epic discussions/disagreements which makes this show so great to listen to. I don’t care how much heat Disco gets because at the end of the day, you are never going to cancel him as long as he is on K100. And to me, that’s a wonderful thing.
Disco is not famous enough to get cancelled lmao
@@pleaseshutup7053 😂
Disco rallies against Cancel Culture by constantly talking about the things that could get him cancelled.
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL I do enjoy his IDGAF attitude
@@pleaseshutup7053 you need some disco fever
Great convo, this why I love keeping it 100 with konnan
Disco also saying that the rules have changed… the rules haven’t changed… sexual assault has never been ok. he’s such a bumhole haha
I was grown back in 2002, and I don't recall being ok with Sexual assault.
This just shows how lost this generation is. Unfortunately there was a time where sexual harassment was acceptable regardless of what your lunch table at school says
@@maxwelljacobfreedom you're a dunce. It was never ok, it was just incredibly overlooked.
@@maxwelljacobfreedom no mate… it’s just we didn’t have social media back then and the wrestlers kept secrets between themselves when it came to stuff like this.
@@1983jcheat Flair's behavior was never acceptable no matter what decade he wrestled in. The 70s 80's 90's and 2000s. The only people that ever found his actions to be acceptable are those in the wrestling business which is full of people like him.
Dark side of the ring should make a episode of LWO konnan and mexican luchadores
I enjoyed Konnan’s takes. He didn’t agree with Disco on 90% of the stuff he said.
What would the episode be about what dark things did they do?
We all know about the plane ride from hell. It’s a open secret in the wrestling community.
People know Ric Flair is a freak and messy man backstage.
There are some stories about Ric Flair did some dirty sh*t in his career. And now Ric Flair past caught up to him.
Moral of the story - What you did in the dark will come to the light.
Side Note: Dark Side Of The Ride series is more of the educational side of what you don’t do in the wrestling business.
Shane Douglas has said that he's literally stopped Flair from committing rape in the past
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL Did Shane Douglas is blacklisted for standing up to Ric Flair? Yes, He stopped Ric Flair trying to rape Johnny Ace ex girlfriend Marti.
If I was Tony Khan I would hired Shane Douglas as manager or coach for AEW.
I've made horrible mistakes since I was 16 and now I'm 32 I'm a completely different person. I would at thr very least condemn my younger self for being a f&cking idiot. Yet being twice that age. I am no longer that person. I learned, regretted what I did and asked forgiveness from those involved. What would be bad, especially being on a public eye in this day and age is trying to be grey and subtle about anything. social justice warriors only see black and white and if like tommy dreamer you make a grey statement, you're sadly going to be screwed all the same if you had said something purely negative....
Shoot to me RVD casually saying he saw guys drugging women to rape them was the biggest bomb shell. For him to idly stand by and let it go down is jacked up. He should name those guys honestly
in all honesty it seemed to me RVD looked really disgusted when he's talking bout it. Van Dam probably couldn't do anything bout it cuz the guys responsible were probably bout as high profile as Flair. in other words, nobody would probably believe Van Dam or Van Dam may have been likely fired if word got out that 1 of the top guys was drugging women and raping em.
@@Machete87 anonymous phone call to police simple as that
Marty said him and Shawn used to do that.
Brutus confirmed seeing it before backtracking
Gold dust was the only one that did anything and they made it seem like him singing on a PA and spitting in the back of the seat was the worst thing on the flight.
I think it was more ‘I heard people did this’, rather than he was around that.
Disco is the sole reason that I don't listen to this show. I like Konan.
DI has obviously never had anyone assaulted in his life... it can take a lot of time for someone to feel comfortable enough to say something.... there's no time frame... My family unfortunately knows this all too well...
Yeah he's really having trouble zeroing in on the idea that This happened and is messed up. He keeps generalizing it so he can keep it in a grey area for himself.
Disco’s literally the Johnny Lawrence from Cobra Kai in the wrestling podcasting world 😂
the sweet irony of all of this is that Tommy Dreamer used to come on K100 and give Disco a hard time for "talking without thinking". Well done Dreamer, you didn't take your own advice.
Dreamer should’ve never been cancelled he just gave his opinion, Flair’s the one who did it.
AEW WILL HIRE FLAIR after this blows over. His daughter will eventually end up there as well. Cant cancel for allegations
@@ronniejdio9411 It's a wonder the WWE doesn't have you on their legal team, afterall you can't settle multiple lawsuits over allegations, right? So weird the WWE did though.
Dreamer decided to insinuate that this woman, who lost her job over the issue & has to eventually explain to her daughter what happened to her, only wanted a payday, & then equated a highly influential guy showing his junk to a non-consenting woman in her work place to him having a ponytail.
Yes he should be cancelled, also he looks like a blobfish now so get him off TV altogether.
@@CM-jc7gk I dont know Don ...did she take the money?
It’s actually smart by Impact, because of Cancel culture , the snowflakes will cry for someone to get canned. Impact got ahead of it and took Dreamer out of the line of fire and thus spared the public backlash.
The only thing I don’t like about “Dark Side Of The Ring” is that they have an obvious relationship with AEW. It makes me question the way some things are presented. The way they let Dustin off easy on the plane ride episode was incredibly suspect to me. The things he was accused of in the lawsuit are every bit as bad as what Flair was accused of. I know people will bring up the fact that the flight attendant who accused Dustin was not interviewed for the show but I have to believe any other documentary crew would have at least mentioned what the accusations were.
Don't let your fanboyism for WWE cloud your judgment friend.
@@omnientertainment5852 I’m not a fanboy for WWE at all. I’ve rooted against them for a large portion of my life. I was a big WCW fan until the bitter end and I stopped watching wrestling for a while after they were sold to the WWF. I was also a huge TNA fan until about 2015. I criticize WWE’s product all the time. I watch about 25% of all WWE shows nowadays. I could not tell you what most of the matches are for tonight’s WWE ppv. I’m just not an AEW fanboy either. I try to look at things objectively and I called out a bias where I thought I saw one. I also saw a lot of AEW fans saying that they thought it was odd how easy Dustin got off on this DOSR episode. If you assume I must be a WWE fanboy based off my comment then it might be you who is unable to look at things objectively.
@@mattsands161 Major ups for being a WCW fan! Also, what was Dustin accused of?
@@SylentEcho The plane ride from hell lawsuit has an accusation against Dustin from a different flight attendant than the one interviewed on DSOR. Here’s the accusation according to the lawsuit...
“Defendant Runnels grabbed Plaintiff Cappellano’s arms repeatedly, asked if her breasts were real, said “you and me are gonna ****”, and grabbed her rear end, rubbing his groin into her.”
@@mattsands161 Holy s***, dude! :( I never knew that. Thanks for the info.
I think one thing that was barely mentioned in that episode was the flight company itself. They mentioned that the company usually does private flights with sports teams. Im sure the company has overlooked a bunch of similar behavior in the guise of pleasing the client, leaving these women to just "do their job" and deal with it, which a bunch of bull shit in it's own right.
Disco is so far gone he can see the back of his own head.
I love how people try to impose today's culture and Sensibility to the Past even 20-30 years ago. They do it to punish people who aren't good enough by today's standards? That whole episode seemed to be cut in such a way to have the most impact on everything.
There's never been a time when a wealthy, powerful guy can show his private parts to a woman, without her consent, & in her work environment, & have it be OK.
In fact we KNOW it wasn't OK then because several wrestlers were fired & the WWE paid to keep the flight attendants quiet, & Jim Ross straight up acknowledges Flair got a pass because of his stature.
This is a wet-brained take.
Its not about culture and sensibility, there should be never be a time when sexual assault is acceptable.
@@mr.fantastic1854 incorrect. where do you propose that it stops? In 10 years do we go back to now And reprimand people? Do we not allow people to change with the times ? Is everyone retroactively victimized ? You think we're creating some kind of utopia where we go back to Old stories and retell them out of context with today's sensibilities and punish people accordingly? Thanks for the one-sentence comment and no actual take or input. You know someone could probably go back through your life and find things you did it wrong according to today's standards we should probably think about that. Speaking on Tommy Dreamer they cut the episode in such a way to make it look like he was responding directly to her as she was talking about the way she felt she wasn't in the same room as her you don't even know what questions they asked him, for him to be chastised and to lose his living because of that is ridiculous and it's a Witch Hunt that won't stop.
Lolz wait a minute. When do you think public “standards” dictated that trying to get a stranger to fondle your exposed dick was a cool thing to do?
Ric flair gets cancelled like every year it feels like lol. These kind of episodes explain why wwe had to clean it up they were a traveling lawsuit waiting to happen.
Konan clearly have thicker skin than Disco
Disco cries about PC and cancel culture as much as the people hes crying about
Love Konnan and always a fan. He gets it.
Tommy Dreamer deserved his punishment for the lack of self-awareness alone. How can you be so stupid to don't understand the current climate and the way those kind of shows are framed to make people look bad? Ric Flair at least didn't take the bait and refused to appear just like Lesnar cause they know it was basically an inquisition tribune, but Dreamer completely fell for it and started to downplay something that was already framed as heinous
Most people want Tommy Dreamer to lose his livelihood but barely mention Rick Flair who was the person who actually assaulted someone. [x]
A lot of men in this world are predators(some are even in the comment section). I pray for the women that come in contact with them
EXACTLY
Jim Cornett and Keepin it 100 are my favorite podcasts. You guys do keep it 100 and we need that nowadays
Hughezy getting creative with the bleeps and I appreciate the effort.
The difference being that this particular woman was not throwing herself at anyone. She was a professional that was used to being around NBA stars on a routine basis.
I gave up on wrestling in 1996 and i wasn't even a huge fan at that time. It was Dark Side's first episode that reeled me in hook, line and sinker. Am with K for this entire clip.
Dark side of the Ring is real. We need the Dark side of the court (NBA) and the Dark side of the field(NFL) maybe the Dark side of the diamond (MLB)
There already is nfl it was junk the first 6 episodes they went easy.
@@pleaseshutup7053 I know Adrian petererson fought dogs or beat his son with an extension cord. And then the other guy who punched that girl hard in the elevator. They need to re do it with better stories
@@totes8363 Peterson's son was beaten to death by his mother's new boyfriend. Michael Vick fought dogs. And Ray Rice hit his girlfriend. Get it right ffs.
there's been a few about the NFL
@@wce05308 Peterson did beat his son with a cord. He got suspended for a year for it.
It happened 20 years ago and they settled out of court. II's over and done but not for the lady who had to relive it. That was hard for her but Tommy made himself look dumb for his "boys will be boys" comments so that's on him. I was like wow, drugs and alcohol on the plane. Grown men acting like fools. SMH. Wrestlers are human and we are not perfect. ijs
19:04 BRO! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 damnit, i spit my drink EVERYWHERE…worth it🤣🤣🤣
I see where Disco is coming from, but he's going about it all wrong.
As usual...
Disco doesn't understand what the issue is. What you do amongst your own group or with receptive people is one thing. It's when people on the outside are forced into it that's the problem.
It's not about "cancel culture" or anything else, and to see Disco (and frankly Konan as well) intentionally make it about anything other than Flair imposing himself on someone who didn't want it and Tommy's banal attitude is such bullcrap.
@@jesuszamora6949 It seemed like Tommy didn't know about the woman's claims of assault. He just thought they were talking about Ric doing his twirling trick and how it made her uncomfortable.
Tommy Dreamer is not being judged for the entirety of his life. He is being judged for comparing 2 ponytails on his head, LAST WEEK, to a woman who says a man forced himself on her. Disco maxe some good points, but that falls way flat
I'm usually one of Disco's biggest defenders but he could not sound dumber if he tried here. This is nothing at all to do with "times changing" it's about people doing the wrong thing. So sick of Disco saying the exact same thing for every topic "cancel culture BLAH BLAH BLAH".
Are you under 20?
He's right tho cancel culture and SJW are soft as cupcakes and cotton.
@@maxwelljacobfreedom I wonder if it was a Black man that did that to a White female flight attendant, would you feel the same way? Stop the crap. I am 45 and Disco is an idiot and contradicted himself in this segment. He basically wants a Darkside episode on Hardbody Harrison. In his opinion that would be a good story. Hardbody is a Black man. But in the same breath he didn't want the Plane Ride From Hell because it buried Flair. Make that make sense.
@@percybedford6266 being white automatically makes you a racist. These idiots have lost their minds!!
@P1 Styles no clown you are painting Flair as a victim.
Konnan is Mexican Hulk Hogan from being over to being a liar.
I'm pretty sure Dreamer didn't know the whole story despite actually being there. I don't think he saw Flair corner the flight attendant and/or grab her arm or whatever which is assault. I don't think he saw her interview either. He probably would've been less critical of Flairs accuser. Impact should have made him do sensitivity classes instead of basically firing him. I bet Brock Lesnar's still employed, but WWE takes the woo out of their show openings. Lame!
I agree
@joe blanco The guy had no idea. Because in his mind, they all saw him naked so it’s like wow she can sue but we aren’t? The wrestlers never saw him grab her. Apparently RVD didn’t either, what he was saying was Flair was hitting on her naked, saying for her to ‘feel the nature boy’ and stuff, they just edited out that bit. That!s why he keeps talking when they cut to something else. I think the lady exaggerates. After all, she seems to be an opportunist (she robbed a jewellery store apparently). Like apparently Hall grabbed her and said a whole bunch of stuff that was sexually harassing her but one of them was ‘i’m gonna lick you’.
@@outis439-A dreamer even said he never saw flair doing anything inappropriate whenever they traveled to a female. That’s just a man giving his honest perspective and he’s cancelled for that?
Sensitivity training? Who the hell wants to watch pro Wrestlers who have been neutured by the HR dept?
This is why modern mainstream pro wrestling is unwatchable trash. The babyfaces from 20 years ago were more edgy/interesting than the modern day heels.
@@outis439-A fact is, that woman nullified her right to pursue legal action when she accepted the cash settlement.
She's clearly hit the wall, likely broke, and is probably emboldened by the current MeToo craze.
Look the real issue here is Tommy’s double pony tail. I mean, is it staying or is it going?
@P1 Styles 😂🤣
i know, what the F is he thinking with that at his age?
Hes just happy to have any hair left at his age he said.
That girl was assaulted and Disco is basically saying "why hasn't she gotten over this by now?" What a weak man.. Wouldn't be surprised if he was dropping shit in girls drinks back in the day too.
@P1 Styles I don't think that would have gotten me, but if it were Roseanne or Kevin Spacey, you bet your ass I would still be traumatized.
Everybody is different and not every woman wanted to ride on space mountain, much less be forced into touching a drunk Flair. It's all about perspective.
@P1 Styles you're totally entitled to your opinion. My only point is, victims of sexual assault probably disagree with you.
I don't know about you guys but im dying to know who was yelling" we're all gonna die"😂😂😂while Brock was tussling with perfect, that plane ride really sounds like it was a good time tho
🤣🤣🤣
She wasn't a groupie, she was a flight attendant at work. Disco isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.
considering how many stories there are of Flair doing this, does this mean that more will come forward? it's not like this was a one-off example.
Maybe they'll interview his ex wives next
@@jesusleyva4386 so that's gonna be a 3 hour long episode then
@@jackiejones3296 IKR 😂🤣
Hahahahhahha the “Pico pal que Lee” means “give a Dick to the guy that reads this” Hahahhahahaha they got you Disco, I’m Chilean and I love your podcast! Keep the good work! 🇨🇱
Flair needs to go away forever
Cancel culture is 🐂💩this story is old and happened when times were different !!! I will never cancel Ric flair,he and other wrestler's have talked about this stuff happening all the time.now everybody's feelings get hurt get over it!!! This is the life of pro wrestlers
We live a mistake-free culture now. You're not allowed to have your own different opinion or be wrong and learn from it anymore. Smh
Yeah we've actually always had a word for guys who go up to women while they're at work & expose themselves before making the women touch their privates, we've called them "perverts."
Don't be a pervert & don't defend perverts, it's pretty telling that you have a problem with that.
@@CM-jc7gk My statement was obviously generalized when I mentioned culture. Clearly, I wouldn't include illegal crimes like exposing yourself as we have established them as actions of societal ill repute. I referenced differing opinions as one example to give the reader an idea of the level of dispute I was referring to, but I guess it was too far above your head. The term "Mistakes" isn't limited to crimes or perversion either. One doesn't have to like or agree with Dreamer's POV, but should he lose everything for not believing someone's side of a story based on what he saw and heard at the time? Why is she entitled to be believed, but someone else that was there isn't. I'm not saying Dreamer is right, but again freedom of speech allows us the ability to speak our minds "freely" and without recourse. Thank you for proving my point by jumping to a conclusion of what you think I meant and trying to come off as holier than thou. It tells everyone all they need to know about you.
3:43 "young guys" Flair was like 57 at the time. Cant really play the young guys card here.
@P1 Styles yeah, nothing's more endearing than a little sexual assault
@P1 Styles I'll use tommy dreamers style of words: If it was "alleged" sexual assault wwe wouldn't have paid out someone outta court....
@P1 Styles If her story was a lie wwe wouldn't have paid her and make her sign an NDA.
@@Lalo_thr You're either cutely or infuriatingly naïve.
@@GentlemanBystander you just described yourself
Flair will be fine. He has a high earning son in-law who is in love with him
never heard of his daughter?
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL pal be real. Before his daughter ever made a dollar in wrestling, who was the person buying every Flair robe and championship belt he ever had?
Conrad
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL What makes you think she gives him money like a mark like Conrad?
but id guess he still rich with all that wwe money in his last run.....
Don’t want to judged wrong, don’t sexually harass women… how many guys from 80’s and 90’s didn’t have groupies.
Every Industry has a "dark side". DSOTR just happens to cover the dark side of the wrestling industry, you can't say it buries the business or hurts the business when they're talking about shit that actually went down. It's not like they're making these stories up.
The United States has a fucked up history but I still love this country, proud to be an American, and wouldn't want to live anywhere else.
I can watch DSOTR and still be a wrestling fan and proud to have been a fan the last 25 years of my life.
DSOTR is a tabloid show. Its salacious. Its not always based on facts. Nearly every episode has some bs in it to add drama
@@ronniejdio9411 If every episode has bs added to it then why do guys like Jim Cornette, Arn Anderson, Rob Van Dam, etc. continue to appear? Not to mention Chris Jericho narrates the program, he's a well respected all time great who would have NOTHING to do with a show that is tabloid fodder.
@@Lalo_thr The purpose of Dark side is simple, its team AEW burying WWE. Its Jericho furthering his business interests. Its so obvious i dont know why people think its some sort of objective documentary.
Yeah but they're known to be highly dramatic and they're not a beacon of journalistic integrity. I mean just the way that they cut up the video and edited it shows they were trying to put their own little spin on it. They basically made it so Tommy Dreamer looks like he's talking to that girl and telling her shut up and that's not what it was. I'm sure there's things they blew way out of proportion and they weren't on the plane so that was just one depiction. On top of that this was already settled when the lady said she'll take money instead of punishing her abuser supposedly? I think we can all say we actually don't know exactly what happened
@@erikaw7767 What came out of Tommy Dreamer's mouth was out of line any way you slice it. There was no "editing", he wasn't reading from a script, he wasn't forced at gun point to say what he said. Even if his comments were placed at the start of the show instead of at the end as suggested by Konnan, I disagree with him, it STILL would have been a big controversy because what he said was terrible.
Jesus christ..... disco constantly interrupts Konnan..
He says let me ask u a question then cuts him off.
lol I like Disco, but seriously… and then if someone tries to cut him off, he raises his voice and says LET ME FINISH when someone tries to cut him off.
If you can’t call people out for crimes they’ve committed in the past, that would also apply to Harvey Weinstein and Bill Cosby.
Huge difference between what happened on that plane and the years of rape and abuse those two guys did.
@@andysalter7192 it really, because disco wants any and all past crimes committed by anyone in wrestling to be left alone. He’s of the same mindset of the defenders of the aforementioned men; we have to protect our business, we have to cover these stories up, and don’t talk to the media about them.
Disco basically doesn't want people to be held accountable for their actions.
Woke culture is annoying and a problem but Disco is way off the mark here. You had grown men harassing and assaulting women. This BS wasn't cool or accepted in 2002.
Love you guys. This is the most honest take on this I’ve seen.
Konnan is so important to wrestling and reality. What a legit breath!
The comments made by Disco Inferno no way represent keeping it 100. He is suspended until further notice after he takes sensitivity training and understands what he did wrong
Konnan is the TRUTH. We need way more ppl like him.
Im here for konan the one who is always real
I've never heard of her, she hot?
I really think Disco missed the point. It doesn't matter if it was in the 90s or 2000s sexual assault can't compare to getting slapped by the boys.
Let's not defend assaults for nostalgia. Also let's not cancel people for things they did not do.
Actions have consequences. In the past the victims took the majority of those consequences. Things have changed. I hate this situation, but can't feel bad for Ric or Tommy.
hard but true.
Let's hope nothing you did 20 years ago comes back to bite you.
@@Connect200 If I sexually harassed someone 20 years ago, then I would deserve it.
@@ramesis55 Sexual harassment is a joke to me. Sexual assault is the thing most people should put their energy towards. Also, if you have to bring up something 20 years later instead of right then and there, it was that big of a deal.
@@Connect200 I hope you never learn how serious sexual harassment can be.
have to agree on Disco here. CANCEL I've got two Words for you !! lol
Me and DI have the same thought process.
Hes right about a lot of stuff... he brought up a good point about that show not really helping the business etc..
I'm very sorry to hear that.
@@richpullen5548 the business is dead. 90% of wrestling fans are living in the past. That is what the show does.
@@pleaseshutup7053 we are “living in the past” cause the current product (wwe) is *trash.* I haven’t watched a live show in years but I enjoy this podcast. If you don’t like it leave
@@pleaseshutup7053 i can see your point.. and it will never be the same.. maybe some of us are hoping for some kind of return to the old days idk...
The zany soundeffects tho haha
Disco sounds like he supports sexual harassment. "That's just the way it was in those days" is not a valid defense for exposing yourself to someone and putting their hand on your junk.
Rvd said it was commonplace for people to put drugs in women's drinks to knock them out and then "have their way with them". Fuck these guys if they wanna say it was just the way things were back then
The sound effects make this sound pretty fun actually
hey well done K100, only about 8 days behind everyone else with this news. Very topical by your standards LOL
i only got the clip yesterday evening
Konnan is the real MVP here
Tell disco that Dark Side Of The Ring got me back into wrestling. I hadn't watched it since 2002 and now I watch AEW pretty regularly soo he may be a litle wrong
He is very wrong but that’s my view. He’s entitled to his. Just seems off base to me.
Theres pros and cons on both sides of the argument. I find it hard to believe, regardless of what the wrestling culture was, that wrestlers assumed EVERY woman they came across wanted to see ric flairs dick. She wasn't a groupie in a hotel room she was a flight attendant at her job. On the otherhand she did take a payoff it that should have been the end of the litigation on the matter. In that respect I understand tommy dreamers view.
For what it's worth, Flair said in an interview years ago that the stewardesses were also drinking and everyone at the time was having a good time. It wasn't until later on they started to view the situation differently for financial gain. I've been to a lot of bars. When people get super drunk, shit tends to get a bit crazy. Sort of comes with the territory. It's called drunken behavior, people aren't in their right state of minds. This generation of wrestling fans just can't relate, they suck soy lattes and pop 11 anti depressants a day. I'm not defending Flair's actions, just saying. He was hammered. It's not an excuse, but an explanation for something that took place during a different day and age. Regardless, this women came off like a total actor to me during the episode. She was fine with taking the payoff but now suddenly wants her me too moment "Flair was inebriated on the flight and flashed me his cock look at me!!" which is probably why Dreamer had the attitude he did.
You realize she was also pressured not to do anything about it by her husband and the airline right? Regardless, if she wants to make a deal about it 20, 30, 40 years later it doesn't matter. I'll take the current crop of wrestlers nowadays NOT making jackasses of themselves over the bullies and idiots from that era any day. Dreamer has daughters, if Flair flopped his dick out in front of one of them and told them to touch it I 100 percent guarantee we wouldn't be having this back and forth discussion about the issue. Dreamer would have killed the man.
And Flair never lied before...
Great look on the topic to say "For what it's worth, the person involved said the women were drinking", might as well flatly say "the women were wearing makeup, skirts & missed a button on the top of their shirt so they wanted the attention."
An all around heinous sense of logic.
"i'M juST sAYiNg"
Lol. She literally went to her boss about it the same day. It wasn’t later. It was literally the same day, goober.
Disco sounds like Kermit the Frog 😂😂😂
Arn needs to slap Disco a few more times, lol
Anyone else find it interesting that Dustin Rhodes just seems to get a free pass, and his antics on the Plane Ride From Hell aren't even mentioned?
"Defendant Runnels grabbed Plaintiff Cappellano’s arms repeatedly, asked if her breasts were real, said “you and me are gonna ****”, and grabbed her rear end, rubbing his groin into her."
Tommy Dreamer gets fired from two jobs for basically defending Flair. Flair is cancelled and thrown under the bus. Dustin sexual assaulted a flight attendant according to the court documents and no one in AEW or elsewhere says anything. I'm not defending Flair but seems like a double standard to me.
yeah, it's weird but it's not like Flair or Dreamer work for WWE
I totally agree with Konnan - the editing really screwed Dreamer over.
I bet Conrad won't do a confidential darkside episode of this one.
a what?
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL Conrad thompson does episodes of darkside called confidential with the two guys that do the show. It's a more in depth look at stuff on the show. He also releases them with grilling Jr's podcast.
Has anyone seen any news about the flight attendant featured in the Vice documentary having a past conviction for thousand in Jewelry? I saw a fan post a story on Twitter from years back but no one else
i heard about it but i don't see what that's got to do with this story.
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL Any good lawyer would bring character into this, was there more than just that? Is there any reason to believe she's exaggerating any of her claims for money? Ultimately given how the flight attendants story played out I'd love to hear Dustin Rhodes take on how this played out since he was the one wrestler she said came to stop Ric
@@scottdecowski4913 WWE paid Doyle in a settlement 18 yrs ago. Sorry shoot down your theory that's obviously illinformed. And if she has a conviction so F'N what. It's irrelevant.
@P1 Styles How much they paid Tommy or anybody who has appeared? Just cause you have anonymity shouldn't mean you should put your stupidity on display bro.
@@willt8848 What theory of mine did you shoot down with her getting paid a settlement from WWE, do tell....
Disco is 100% right. This show is the dark side but only the dark side of older wrestling. I bet they wont touch modern wrestling with Joey Ryan and the super clique, Speaking out 2020, wrestling fake news (Meltzer) and propaganda, Teddy Hart, Japanese Idol Wrestling and the sex stuff with that etc etc.
the only time they do modern stuff is to promote Nick Gage and how AEW stans love him. Hell the shows optics are basically aew stars are good and the rest of the industry is bad, just from optics..
20 years ago is older wrestling
100% agree with disco, the 80s and 90s were crazy and it was acceptable. You can’t go back and judge when it was accepted. That’s not fair at all
It’s never acceptable for sexual assault never
Really? Never heard of movies like The Accused (1988), Disclosure (1994), Unforgiven (1992), Sleepers (1996), Thelma and Louise (1991), The Crow (1994)? Sexual assault was never acceptable and it would seem popular media at the time reinforces that perception.
"Having a good time" with consenting adults... always acceptable. Banging ring rats is okay, chasing after disinterested civvies is bad.
There was a time where it was ok for Roman emperors to sexually assault boys and the wives of the wealthy elite. Are you going to say i can't look back at that and not think that was terrible?
She’s a crook. She lost all credibility. I stopped listening to R. Kelly after I heard the rumor he married Aliyah. I would slap Disco too. Drunk or sober.