Royalty 101: What is the Order of the Garter?
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2023
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The Most Noble Order of the Garter sneaks into so many of my videos. Nearly ever significant member of the English and British royal family since the 1300s, and a number of foreign royals have been knights or ladies of the garter. And the symbols of the order can be spotted in SO. MANY. ROYAL. PORTRAITS. if you know where to look. Most recently the order made an appearance in pop culture when William, Prince of Wales and other senior royal men wore garter robes to the coronation of King Charles III. And on Monday, the 19th of June 2023, Garter day, the order met at Windsor castle, for the first time under King Charles, to induct 2 new members. So what is a chivalric order? What is the history of the Order of the garter? Why is their symbol a piece of women’s lingerie? And who are it’s member? And I’ll tell you about the orders behind the bright blue and red robes Catherine, Princess of Wales and the other female royals were wearing and the green velvet mantle sported by Princess Anne.
Order of the Garter
Royal Victorian Order
Most Ancient and Most Noble Order of the Thistle
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I've always thought that being a Knight or Lady of the Garter was one of the biggest flexes one could have. To be part of that club would be so awesome.
Especially that it’s rooted in the knights of the round table. Very cool.
Scots. Not Scotch which is an alcoholic drink.
@@iriscollins7583 just to be the devil's advocate, from which country is scotch from?
Yes. I think it’s limited to 24 but doesn’t count the royals like PW, PE and the King and Queen, etc. I believe it’s related to chivalry and service to the Crown. I’m not British. So very cool 👑
Outside of a hereditary peerage, it definitely is…on that note, I feel like the baronet (not to be confused with barony, ie, ‘baron’) is the ‘poseur’ of hereditary titles, because they are titles that were bought and paid for…not that other titles weren’t ’bought’ from time to time, but the baronetcy actually comes with a receipt with your purchase that says you paid for this title.
British orders in their rank
1) Order of the Garter
2) Order of the Thistle
3) Order of St. Patrick
4) Order of the Bath
5) Order of the Star of India
6) Order of St. Michael & St. George
7) Order of the Indian Empire
8) Royal Victorian Order
9) Order of the British Empire
The 2 orders associated with India have become dormant, with their last members being dead by 2010. No new appointments were done after 1947, but still for some reason the British Government refuses to abolish the Order. Charles is the titular sovereign of these 2 member-less orders.
There is also no new members to the Order of St Patrick.
@@fukeonglai7202 The existence of the Order of St. Patrick is still justified. The UK government wants it's top 3 chivalric orders to represent its 3 constituent kingdoms - England (Garter), Scotland (Thistle) & (N).Ireland (St. Patrick). Given the complicated position of N. Ireland, it suits well to keep up a obsolete chivalric order associated with Ireland. However, no such motive can be ascertained for the chivalric orders associated with India
Isn't there also the Order of Merit, or is this some other sort of orders?
Ye but that is more a Military order
An idea for a video: Monarchs who suffered mental illnesses (or it was claimed that they did): Talal of Jordan, Ludwig II of Bavaria, Joanna I of Castile, Maria I of Portugal, Charles VI of France, George III of the UK, Philip V of Spain, etc.
Edward III was my 20x great grandfather, and many of my ancestors have been Knights of the Garter.
Also my 20th great grandfather.
Mine too!
If I remember correctly Winston Churchill declined a Dukedom but requested and was inducted into the Order of the Garter by Queen Elizabeth the 2nd.
He rejected the Dukedom because he wants to stay in the House of Commons.A MP being given a peerage is akin to being given a retirement.
I love learning about all of this-- though I admit, it's fodder for my own stories, but the pomp and the outfits are so compelling. As a longtime Harry Potter fanfiction author, when I heard "The Most Ancient and Noble" my mind filled in, "House of Black!!" but having Scottish lineage, the Order of the Thistle with their green velvet robes is now my fixation. Thank you so much for your incredibly thoughtful and well researched videos!!
Yes. Actually the opening scene in The Crown episode 1 the king bestows this order upon Prince Philip. So awesome. 👑
Princess Anne is a member of the Order of the thistle ❤
Order of Merlin 1st, 2nd, and 3rd class is probably based on the Order of Merit.
Thank you for the indept coverage of the three herdralic orders. It is strange that the Scotish order is the most picky! I think Princess Anne wanted to be her own woman! Princess Alexandria wore her garter sash under her Victoria mantle.
Expect for the royal family, The Order of Thistle is only for Scottish.
This was well presented and I learned so much.
Part of me thinks that all this pomp doesn't belong in the modern age. The last 30 years have produced technology that catapults modern society so far ahead of most of the 20th century. Coronation robes and mantles of ancient orders look and sound so out of place. .... like a rolodex in an office or a typewriter.
I do respect the past and, of course, tradition is important so as not to forget where we came from and who we are, at our core. It does, though, appear out of place to see the upper echelon of British society parade about in their overblown and anachronistic costumes while regular people struggle with inflation and rising fuel costs and costs of goods. Tradition might need to be modernized to reflect the current times and be relatable to everyday people so not to appear out of place.
@@TheKrazysexykoolhow do you plan to modernise, or reform, something which is fundamentally medieval? The whole point and value of tradition is that it’s physically and visibly connected to the past by it’s qualities. And when would it be acceptable to restore said traditions? When unemployment falls below 2%? 4%? Do we switch it on and off like a light? If so then what’s the point?
Since this is The Royal Ascot week, it would be great if you did an episode on Royalty that owned racehorses and why there are races named after certain Royals. Thanks
I read The Queen's bio and it talks a lot about her horses.
Hopefully you do one on the Order of the Golden Fleece which is the most prestigious chivalric order in Europe since Kings from France to Hungary to Royal Consorts like Prince Albert and Generals like the Duke of Wellington have been given that honor.
26:14 And as always Anne is the MVP of the family! Love her!❤🎉🎉❤❤❤🎉
I feel like the family should create a specific honor named after her, her commitment to duty and service is legendary
I admire the Princess Royal for her devotion to duty but find it inappropriate that she wears
uniform with men's trousers as she did at the Queen's funeral and the King's coronation. Our
late Queen would never have dressed in that manner.
@@jacksonreilly3441 and yet her late majesty did permit HRH Anne to dress so.
Who are you to say it’s inappropriate
@@jandrews6254 It is a rapidly vanishing concept known as freedom of expression to which I, as
a citizen claim entitlement. Who are you to gainsay me? If you don't like it, I suggest you obtain
your TS slip from the Chaplain.
You don't gotta explain what or why the Princess Royal does or doesn't do. She's such a bad ass, she makes her own rules. 💪💕
And everyone is happy to follow them.
(She my fav Royal)😍
Mine too!❤
Would love to see the other chivalric orders featured. 💙💚
This is excellent. You just keep getting better and better. ❤❤❤
This was so interesting. I've often wondered what the sashes and badges and robes meant. Thank you for this.
Informative, Educational , and absolutely entertaining #Bravo on excellent content 👏🏾 !!!
Excellent presentation. One additional interesting note is that whereas the British government designates who will be named "regular" knights and dames, only the monarch designates knights and dames of the garter, at his or her discretion.
One of my five favourite orders.
I thank you showing in detail all those orders. I always wondered about them.
6:35 RIP queen Joan II of Navarre. Thanks to salic law.
I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS
In Brazil we had the Imperial Order of the Southern Cross (Ordem Imperial do Cruzeiro do Sul), created by Dom Pedro I in 1822. This days that order is known as National Order of the Southern Cross (Ordem Nacional do Cruzeiro do Sul) and is given by the President. Some of the recipients were Queen Elizabeth II, Queen Beatrix, Queen Sofia, King Charles Nelson Mandela, Emmanuel Macron and so on.
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Thinking of doing the Romanovs family soon.
Thanks for the lesson.. I do enjoy your videos..
Love your videos Lindsey. Would you do a deep dive into royal equerries, how they came to be, what they did and what they do now? Id love to know
Fascinating! Thank you Lindsay! 👏👑👑
On what occasions do their wear the robes? How do they decide whether to wear the robe, ribbon or the garter?
They wear the robes on Garter day and Coronation.
Could you please make a video about the order if the Golden Fleece, please?
My favorite Knightly order of all time! Founded by England's greatest King, Edward III! Him and his court were truly King Arthur and Camelot come again! Love your videos girl!😊😊😊❤❤❤❤❤❤
My ancestor Sir John De Hynton 3rd of Huntington, his name is on the list of Knights who were with Edward at Antwerp in 1340, and served at Crecy in 1346. (William Salt Publication Vol. 3 page 132.
Wow! That is definitely something to be proud of!😊
Thank you for doing a video on the orders and medals of chivalry. I have always been really fascinated by this since many great men and women in wildlife conservation/animal welfare here in Africa received them such as George and Joy Adamson, Daphne Sheldrick and in my own country of Zimbabwe ( then Rhodesia ), great animal lovers such as Ted Davison, John Charles Tebbit and Rupert Fothergill of Operation Noah who rescued thousands of wildlife from Lake Kariba's rising floodwaters in the late '50s/'60s. All are some of the greatest heroes to ever exist on our planet. All rightfully received MBE/OBEs as they should.
While my response to your two final questions is Yes, Ms. Holliday, I also believe that the historical aspect of these Orders far outweighs the Good Old Boy/Girl aspect that some people think that they have. This is especially true since Her Majesty, the late Queen Elizabeth II opened up the regulations for the Garter as well as the OBE, thus allowing those who have achieved certain goals in life the public recognition that is their due. Just an observation from the Texas Hill Country.
Like monarchy, of course they don't have an actual place in modern society, but as a piece of living history, so long as the People of the UK want them around, so be it.
Can you do a video on how the telephone system works at the palace? Maybe expand it to how messages are communicated between the royal family through the years?
Since you mentioned the agnatic order of inheritance for the Kings of France, I am curious to follow their journey to see how the bloodline was maintained. Do you think you would be doing a series on the Kings of France? And maybe Queen Consort as well where we may get a lot of English and Spanish queens.
Hi! While Lindsay’s videos are always top tier, there is a channel called useful charts and they have a video that follows the entire French royal line and shows up options of who would rule today if it was still a monarchy! That being said I’d love to see a video series that traces French rulers like she did with the English rulers
@@brieleashea2609 Useful charts is great and I have already watched the video you are talking about. But yes, I would love to see Lindsay doing it like she did it with the UK and HRE series.
The Ordar Is Egland. I look forward each year for the members to be shown in all of their fineary. Tridition must carry on we have so little left.
God Save The King
Can you please do a video on the history of swear words like the middle finger and all that. When you said the two fingers up history I had no idea, that was very interesting. Great video Lindsay.
And I always thought a garter is the thing around a brides leg..that's gets thrown to the next groom😅
Tells you a lot about my household, we were talking about this the other day. 😅
Edit: we also talked about Friday the 13th
Thanks for the lesson, great info. I watched this on television and now I know more about it. 😊
VERY informative. I had heard of some of these orders, but I knew next to nothing
You focus on the British family alot.... maybe do a series on french kings and their wives
The thing is the British Monarchy still exists (and they're the most famous ones), while the French one doesn't anymore
“…Royal participation trophies…” that’s funny!
In Australia, we have the Order of Australia, which is usually at the end of somebody's name as O. A. M. (Order of Australia Medal). However, they're much more common than O. B. E.'s; my great grandfather was awarded one and another great uncle in law was awarded one by (then-prince) Charles.
Australians are also still eligible for admission to the Garter, Thistle and RVO as Australian Citizens, Sir Robert Menzies has been the only KT but 3 have been KGs, all being former Governors-General.
RVO admissions for Australians happen almost every year but in very small numbers, mostly to staff at Government House, Canberra and each of the state and territories' Government Houses.
I'm not a huge fan of the single order to recognise everyone but that's just the view of most people today. I think it would be far more suited to still appoint ADF officers to the Order of the Bath, diplomats to the Order of St Michael and St George. Viceregal officers and staff appointments to GCVO, K/DCVO and CVO more often would also be fitting for the work that they do in service of the King.
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It’s always interesting to see, how close the Dutch royals are with the British royals. But I think this goes back to the strong bond of friendship between former queen Beatrix and the late queen Elisabeth.
Ye which is a continunation of the friendship that Britain and the Netheralnds had going back to the Dutch revolt (3 princesses married the Prince of Orange before the Netherlands officially became a kingdom)
Really interesting! Thanks
Thank you for all the information you gathered. Really well done. I have never understood any of this, now I do.
WELL DONE! 😊
Hi! Lindsay,
I love ur videos so much, but I was wondering if u could do more of tudor content
Very detailed and informative. Love your videos !
I think my family could use an Order of Chivalry. Call it the Order of Lakewood Trips. Given to family members who have traveled the most frequently to the town of Lakewood, New Jersey.
The Emperor of Brazil, D. Pedro II was the only Knight of the Garter in America at ALL!!!! None else was granted in whole America besides the Emperor of Brazil 😎
Such a big honor 🇧🇷🤝🏻🇬🇧🏴
It's very grand! If I have that kind of culture, I will surely advocate for keeping this tradition. It's a very grand way of honouring people who serve the sovereign and nation!
Thanks for the lesson
EXCELLENT video, Lindsay!! XXXX ❤💗👍🤗
I forget if you mentioned this, but did Edward VIII get kicked out of the order after he abdicated?
For royals, it seems like a participation trophy. To be fancy for fancy's sake. For foreign royals, I see the value in denoting friendship with that person and/or alliances with that nation. For those who aren't royal (or senior royals), it is much more like an actual acknowledgement of achievements, contributions to society, etc. (Though of course some politics and/or nepotism is involved, too.) Honoring people for actual stuff they've done is the best use of this concept, though.
fantastic and very informative video, thank you. It's great to learn about the famous orders in such Indepth detail.
Thank you for this. So informative.
I love your videos!
The answer to the question of the validity of chivalric orders was given when you pointed out that Andrew is still included
I love that the orders and honours of chivalry reflect the Arthurian principles of rewarding good deeds, acts of kindness, generousity, courage, protection of women and the innocent, justice and truth. The very principles of what it is to be a good human. This is what King Arthur would have wanted us all to embody. 💚💚🙏🏻🙏🏻🕊🕊🌍🌏🌎
Because just explaining garters were once unisex wear is so much harder than making up a random story about it?
Very interesting! It’s always cool to see these very old things continue to modern times.
Such rich history... amazing.
Iwonder how they dealt with the reformation in the Order of the Garter
Super Film
May I ask what video editing software are you using ?
I ❤ it!
They look so badass 😎 in their order robes
Great.video.learn.somthing.nee.cant.wait.for.the.nexts.one.or.two❤❤❤😊😊😊
what is the significance of the sash and how it is worn, left or right shoulder?
I adore the history behind this and think it’s a beautiful tradition
Can you do roman emperors
Just realised that in the painting at 3:00 the king has 6 fingers. Now I can’t think of anything else
Lindsay the earlier picture of the emperor of Japan is actually Emperor Taishō not emperor Hirohito 22:11
Another future topic that could be discussed is the Order of the Golden Fleece and their current Royal members since on the Spanish side, there is several royals as Knights from other countries.
And how this actually help the subjects…ohh, I get it….. tourism and Halloween 😅
I kind of want to start my own order now.
I think it would be great if the US started something like the Order of the Eagle to honor it's citizens. Kentucky has the "rank" of Colonel, so it could be done.
In the USA, it would become
too political. btw: There is
a flap in UK about Tony
Blair being admitted to the
Order of the Garter (as well
as him receiving a title -- that
is common for all former PMs)
Some people consider T.B.'s
elevation to the OG to be a
slap in the face to others in
the UK.
Why, in regards to TB?
@@michaelhowell2326
War in Iraq, how he got the UK involved.
Questions about personal wealth. Also,
Blair is very pro-W.E.F. ....
Yeah, I know, so is King Charles but
Blair is actively involved.
UK aside of course, of the remaining six kingdoms in Europe, five have a representative--Norway, Spain, Denmark, the Netherlands and Sweden. Belgium doesn't because typically they are given during a state visit, and there hasn't been a state visit from the Belgians to the UK since 1963 when King Baudouin was still king. So Albert II is the only king to not have received one. I hope Philippe will have a state visit at some point so he can be given the honor.
great grandad 20 was neil loring, one of the original knights of garter.
1:14
Prince Michael of Kent: Am I a joke to you?
Most men are Knight Bachelors which isn't part of the Order of the British Empire
The first to Watch!!
My grandfather was a famous historian and professor who was the foremost expert on the history of the commonwealth and was inducted into OBE in 1991. We always called it "Old B*stards of the Empire" lol
Please make A video on the children of Paul I of Russia.
Great video. I love watching your videos .
it's just a show, it doesn't really affect us normal people... I supposed having these garments and insignia in the early days it's like having a BLUE TICK next to their names...
Brillant
i LOVE the stories of the she-wolves of Europe. i have several books on hem so far. i consider elizabeth ii and vicrotria part of these wolves.
I cryed when i heard about the she wolf Isabelle
Wow.
You growl at the end of each sentence....garterrrrrrr 🤣
Catherine, Princess of Wales,... KG and KT coming up!
Joan of Kent was also the first Princess of Wales. The eldest son of Edward I was created the first Prince of Wales. He had been born a few days prior at Caernarfon. According to legend, Edward presented his newborn son as a royal who spoke no English. The Welsh nobles were objecting to having a sovereign who spoke no Welsh and who only spoke English. This was shortly after Edward had conquered the Welsh. Edward the second married Isabelle of France after he became king, thus he had no Princess when he was Prince of Wales. This is how I learned it anyway
Interesting & informative.
Some elocution training would be a good idea.
*Ironically the grandson of Philip IV, established the Order of the Garter (Ie: Edward III)...
So June 20th is when the Royal Victorian Order meets?? So today??
Antiquated
How about The Order of the Bath? Video about it.