Duchesnay & Duchesnay (FRA) - 1989 World Figure Skating Championships, Ice Dancing, Free Dance
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- Paris, FRANCE - 1989 World Figure Skating Championships, Ice Dancing, Free Dance - Isabelle and Paul Duchesnay of France skated an exciting program to an orchestrated version of The Beatles' "Eleanor Rigby." They would place 3rd in the Free Dance and ended moving up from 4th Place to win the Bronze Medal.
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It was the elegance of this team which set them apart from all others. Nobody could match them in that area. Not the best technical team but the most elegant.
Where were the judges brains on that day. Unbelievable they could mark this performance anything other than 6. It was stupendous. Still as impressive today as it was then.
Franchement superbe ! Quel plaisir de revoir le frère et la sœur patiner ⛸, de grands précurseurs , leurs programmes n’avaient rien de classique et très novateurs . 🧜🏼♀️🇫🇷
Incroyable d'innovation ce programme... on retrouve des éléments repris par Gritshuk/Platov pour ne citer qu'eux. Ils ont sorti la danse sur glace de l'égémonie soviétique/ballet... merci à eux et leur chorégraphe de génie christopher Dean !
Техничная с новыми элементами программа...но слабая хоррограчияесаая подготовка....руки Изабель...это просто весла
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Wow! Unique! Absolutely unique ! The dancers and the music and the orchestra version. Love them very much! Thanks Tornvil &Dean!
Tnx ,Dean the coach !
Tnx Dean,for the dance formation by Piper Gilles & Paul Poirier,absolutely champion of contemporary dance
They were revolutionaries in the category of ice dance. They were my idols. I was an 11 year old skater in 1989, and ended up completing my gold dances, due in large part to this team. They were incredibly inspiring 🌟. I wish they’d been born later, so they’re interpretive genius would’ve gotten the recognition it deserved. They normalized “lifts” in ice dance. As long as you don’t break contact, it’s allowed. They paved the way for a new generation of ice dancers. And the judging system is corrupt, always has been. The judges have never landed a jump or completed a spin, yet they judge others. Classic case of “do what I say, not what I do”. And goodness help you if you were “different” back then, you’d never win.
Ezt a kurt vegignezve, amulatba ejto, csodalatos megeremlik a legjobbat.
je les adore ils sont beaux tous les deux de grands patineurs talentueux qui ont su rénover la danse sur glace j 'adore je vous embrasse et encore merci
Excusez moi, je ne regarde pas le patinage en dehors "des Duchesnay ",en étant honnête, avant et après, personne ne m'a jamais donné envie de regarder !!!!!!! À mes yeux, personne n'a jamais fait preuve de nouveautés comme eux !!!!!!!!!!!
The first contestation ,The pubblic never agree the age of judge corruption.
I remember very well.
Magnifique
She said"Thank you God" at the end.
C'est sa force.
Che dire semplicemente straordinari.......ma come si è sempre saputo e risaputo i giudici hanno sempre favoreggiato la scuola Russa, purtroppo anche nello sport ci sono i venduti............
Wouah.
I think I peeled away from watching ice dancing and skating after these two left the scene. It became more bland after that. Now I realize why. I think if the judges were repelled by their dance, it is because hetero dancing (of this sort) has generally been between two non-related people. Adding skates does not change that reality, so probably they couldn't get past the brother-sister thing to the uniqueness of the dance.
Поль прекрасен. Изабель красивое бревно
Dranstonicals
55 оценка точная за их катание
Танец весьма экстравагантен,но техничен и артистичен.
Но как же коряво брат и сестра его исполняют.
Как максимум должны быть четвёртыми.
Но чемпионат мира 1989 года был в Париже и вот им приз бронза.
Считаю,что в Альбервиле им и серебро дали зря.
Тот танец под Бернстайна неудача Дина как хореографа.
И им и бронзы на Олимпиаде было бы много.
А итоги ЧМ 1991 года за гранью разума.
В Мюнхене судейские игры лишили золота Усову с Жулиным.
Дин,"сделанный из другого теста"😊не мог не видеть корявость Изабель,ее,если можно так сказать"нетанцевальность" и это ее качество природное своей хореографией он превратил в достоинство😊она в ней органична!это удивительно-минус превратить в плюс!😊
@@user-fj3br6cv6h а я вот не вижу плюса
@@user-we5un3oh8r это Ваше видение танца и исполнителей😊
He was certainly a very dynamic skater - would've like to have seen him in the men's singles competition.
Thank you Christopher dean, a genious !
On commence à le savoir que c'est un génie!
Ce n'est plus de l'amour, c'est de la rage que vous avez pour ce monsieur Dean!
Perfect song for a perfect pair! 💖⛸☯️
His outfit reminds me of the later to come..Great Johnny Weir!!!!
I love them; always did. The judges never did know what to make of them. This program is intriguing and lovely, but wow has ice dance changed -- no way could they get away with so many lifts now. I enjoyed seeing this again. Thanks for posting.
Unless I missed it, there wasn't a single twizzle in the whole program. Nowadays, it's nothing BUT twizzles.
@@AisforAlibi1 there was no twizzles but a lot of interesting and unique moments.
But you know who's helping in this program, for they has good mark so was Christopher Dean and Jayne Torvil
Lovely to see this, I loved the Duchesnays but did not see them in France. Those were the days!
Good lord... what were the judges watching?! I could just about understand 5.7 or 5.8 for technical merit, their edges were never quite as clean as they could be free legs sometimes not quite matched etc, but 5.7 for artistic impression...c'mon!!
Watch the Canadian television broadcast and listen to the comments from Toller Cranston (CAN) who did not like this routine at all, primarily for the reason that this dance was not a Charleston and I believe he said that this did not resemble a Charleston whatsoever. Not to mention the rule violations and how much simpler their choreography was and how far apart they were skating from each other. Too bad this event was held in Paris because had it been contested almost anywhere else, they would not have been on the podium. Engi & Toth (HUN) deserved the bronze for this event.
This quadrennium almost worked in their favor completely: 89 Worlds in France (country they represented and where Paul was born), 90 Worlds in Canada (where Isabelle was born and both were raised and once competed for), 91 Worlds in Germany (where they both train, under Martin Skotnicky, a German coach), and 92 Winter Olympics in France. Had they had the right material to skate to in 92, they could have won the Gold. BUt Dean ran out of fresh material, and Klimova & Ponomarenko stepped up their technique and choreography.
You've got your facts wrong Jason. It was the OSP which was meant to be the Charleston, and they were punished in that section, placing only fifth behind the Hungarians. This is the free dance.
@@3Axel1996 Also Klimova just managed to avoid a drugs ban, otherwise D&D would have been clearcut Olympic Champions in 92.
@@3Axel1996 Martin Skotnicky is a Slovak, not a German.
@@Fatima502 I know this is the Free Dance, which I didn't like either, but I was commenting on the OSP from Canadian television which is not an easy video to find. I know what I am talking about and I don't need correcting from someone easily confused like you.
A very interesting free dance but I think a medal was very generous when you consider what a mess they made of their Argentine Tango CD at this competition and their OD was painfully off the mark.
gk891 Once again, I have to agree! The USA judge got it right!
Tom S. Absolutely. They were interesting performers but not the greatest skaters IMO.
gk891 I hadn't seen their Argentine Tango, but based on your remark, looked up the video. Are you kidding me? That dance warranted a 5.3 or 5.4 at best! (in those days of one mark for CD) Perhaps because the Championships were in Paris and they represent France (although are really Canadian!), that sort of "helped" their placements. Gee, ya think? I still say you & I should have been on the judges panels of these major competitions! Maybe our 2 out of 9 ordinals would have affected the results.
Tom S. :)
I recently learned that Isabelle & Paul actually placed 3rd in the compulsories at the 1989 Worlds in spite of the major problems with their Argentine Tango. I feel really bad for Klara Engi and Attila Toth. Had they finished ahead of D&D in the compulsories like they should have, they would have won that bronze medal even with their 4th place in the free dance. That could've potentially changed the path of their career because they started to lose favour with the judges soon afterwards (although to be fair and objective, part of it had to do with their skating as it their progress really began to stall after 1990).
The American judge got it right, for once.
technical mark should have been higher..........artistic mark was spot on
Isabelle representing "a dream" is like Courtney Love representing reality, sorry. Horrible posture, abysmal skating skills, workmanlike plodding through all the moves, one facial expression. I always wished Dean had choreographed for Klimova/Ponomarenko. But that was never meant to be, unfortunately.
kirkenes Isabelle had extraordinary expression, imo, and portrayed the roles she was given very well. I get that you don't like her, but that's no reason to be all negative and only negative about her. By the time of the WCC '89, she had just overcome a knee injury that had kept her off ice almost thoughout the season.
@kirkenes If she would be such a horrible skater as you described, then I don´t understand how they could be able to obtain medals from Europe/ World Championships. Unless all judges were either blind, crazy or on drugs...
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