being in a sitting position or leaning back some helps put the pressure on your back instead of pulling directly up on the loops. Either way, it's not comfortable and not recommended as the plan A.
Yeah--ouch. My bruises got worse and recently went away. Worst case with belt loops breaking is that the belt could slide up higher. That would be uncomfortable--probably more so as it scrapes up your back and squeezes your organs from the side...but it would still keep you from falling since it would be above your waist and below your armpits. Now a harness built into shorts--that would be interesting.
That might help a little, but the belt isn't padded and I guess I would rather just wear a harness. This is really for use in an emergency or for edge protection and is not intended for comfort.
@@johnhaywood2891 that it does. i keep leg hoops webbing in a small pouch on my belt. that and two climbing rated biners. you never know when you may need it, but its always there ;) .
I bought one of these after finding my self on a steep icy incline with jagged rocks while snowboarding. I had to spend an hour carefully manipulating my way back up the mountain while on the brink of slipping down and getting severely injured or worse. The entire time I was wishing I had a rope and some way to traverse the not vertical, but steep cliff. I believe this will be a great emergency only option for situations like that
You bet. It's good for emergency situations. I know my ski pants don't accept a belt like this so you could also use a diaper harness if that suits you better. Here's a link to a quick video about how to tie one: ruclips.net/user/shortsYwUCl5mQKVw Stay safe out there.
That would help. You are describing a standard level 2 climbing harness. This belt is really just for edge protection and light rappelling when you are in a bind. It's not comfortable, but at least it's load rated and keeps you safe.
***DO NOT USE THIS BELT THIS WAY OUTSIDE OF A LIFE AND DEATH EMERGENCY*** I’m sorry to be the one to inform you of this, but this belt is not designed for that purpose at all. It is designed to be a tactical load bearing belt for attaching military equipment to, with an **EMERGENCY** helicopter tie off point that is to be used only to keep you from falling out of a helicopter. It is not meant to be used repeatedly for rappelling. It is not even officially load rated because the real end users of such a device are required to purchase Berry compliant items per their federal procurement requirements. Why do I know all of this? I own a legitimate military approved version that **IS** load rated and made in the USA with full compliance. However these are still not meant to be used as standalone rappelling devices and are far better built than the one in this video.
The description for the belt I'm wearing states that "the V-ring is used for a main attachment point, and has a proof-load strength of 2500 lbf. and breaking strength of 5000 lbf. Webbing strength is 7000 lbf., overall strength 4000 lbf." That being said we generally only use them for tending ropes near the cliff edge when their aren't enough type III harnesses available, or in the very rare case of needing to rope up to get down a short slope--usually due to snow or ice. I don't know anyone who would actually make a habit of relying on these for vertical rappelling since they are so painful.
I'm really surprised that the pants loops did not break
being in a sitting position or leaning back some helps put the pressure on your back instead of pulling directly up on the loops. Either way, it's not comfortable and not recommended as the plan A.
OUCH! I'd like my belt loops to be load rated too hahaha. What someone needs to do is sew a harness into a pair of shorts.
Yeah--ouch. My bruises got worse and recently went away. Worst case with belt loops breaking is that the belt could slide up higher. That would be uncomfortable--probably more so as it scrapes up your back and squeezes your organs from the side...but it would still keep you from falling since it would be above your waist and below your armpits. Now a harness built into shorts--that would be interesting.
What if you added leg loops? Good info!
That might help a little, but the belt isn't padded and I guess I would rather just wear a harness. This is really for use in an emergency or for edge protection and is not intended for comfort.
I improvised some leg loops for my riggers belt with tubular webbing. Makes a huge difference.
@@johnhaywood2891 that it does. i keep leg hoops webbing in a small pouch on my belt. that and two climbing rated biners. you never know when you may need it, but its always there ;) .
I bought one of these after finding my self on a steep icy incline with jagged rocks while snowboarding. I had to spend an hour carefully manipulating my way back up the mountain while on the brink of slipping down and getting severely injured or worse. The entire time I was wishing I had a rope and some way to traverse the not vertical, but steep cliff. I believe this will be a great emergency only option for situations like that
You bet. It's good for emergency situations. I know my ski pants don't accept a belt like this so you could also use a diaper harness if that suits you better. Here's a link to a quick video about how to tie one: ruclips.net/user/shortsYwUCl5mQKVw Stay safe out there.
What about webbing leg loops that hold the belt down farther
That would help. You are describing a standard level 2 climbing harness. This belt is really just for edge protection and light rappelling when you are in a bind. It's not comfortable, but at least it's load rated and keeps you safe.
I want a AIR tshirt
I've been debating about AIR shirts now or waiting until I have more subscribers. Would you want just the logo? I do have some designs.
***DO NOT USE THIS BELT THIS WAY OUTSIDE OF A LIFE AND DEATH EMERGENCY***
I’m sorry to be the one to inform you of this, but this belt is not designed for that purpose at all. It is designed to be a tactical load bearing belt for attaching military equipment to, with an **EMERGENCY** helicopter tie off point that is to be used only to keep you from falling out of a helicopter. It is not meant to be used repeatedly for rappelling. It is not even officially load rated because the real end users of such a device are required to purchase Berry compliant items per their federal procurement requirements.
Why do I know all of this? I own a legitimate military approved version that **IS** load rated and made in the USA with full compliance. However these are still not meant to be used as standalone rappelling devices and are far better built than the one in this video.
The description for the belt I'm wearing states that "the V-ring is used for a main attachment point, and has a proof-load strength of 2500 lbf. and breaking strength of 5000 lbf.
Webbing strength is 7000 lbf., overall strength 4000 lbf." That being said we generally only use them for tending ropes near the cliff edge when their aren't enough type III harnesses available, or in the very rare case of needing to rope up to get down a short slope--usually due to snow or ice. I don't know anyone who would actually make a habit of relying on these for vertical rappelling since they are so painful.
We know all that, we just want to see how it does in an emergency. But thanks, Captain Obvious