Crawford & Stanwyck - The Shirley Eder Tapes (Secret Phonecalls!)

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  • Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024

Комментарии • 46

  • @ianhammonds7773
    @ianhammonds7773 7 лет назад +36

    This lady was sneaky and conniving bating both women for information on these phone conversations. And I listened to every second lol

    • @OldHollywood
      @OldHollywood  7 лет назад +7

      Bating is a really perfect word for it!

  • @KJ-xc6qs
    @KJ-xc6qs 6 лет назад +29

    NEVER trust a reporter!

  • @Gio_Vanni6143
    @Gio_Vanni6143 4 года назад +11

    My grandmother was the spitting image of Barbara Stanwyck. Both born the same year in Brooklyn in the same neighborhood.

    • @scotnick59
      @scotnick59 2 года назад

      Wow!

    • @Gio_Vanni6143
      @Gio_Vanni6143 2 года назад +2

      @@scotnick59 She had a pretty crappy life like Barbara except Barbara redeemed her early misfortune in Hollywood. Unfortunately, grandma had a life of constant sorrow.

  • @arundelmercure553
    @arundelmercure553 7 лет назад +14

    Thank you for this. The visuals you picked are glorious. Joan and Barbara were both amazing and beautiful. I think Stanwyck was a better actress, but Joan's fierce as an icon herself.

    • @arundelmercure553
      @arundelmercure553 7 лет назад +11

      And gosh, everyone in all this sounds drunk. Barbara Stanwyck gossiping about Joan, she sounds like a husky gay man. (I'm a gay man, not really husky, I mean no offense). This is extraordinary, feeling like you're eavesdropping on conversations from a half-century ago. It's wild and great.

    • @OldHollywood
      @OldHollywood  7 лет назад +9

      You're welcome! And it's just fascinating, isn't it? A real glimpse into behind the scenes of both legendary actresses!

    • @lynntownsend4457
      @lynntownsend4457 6 месяцев назад +1

      Joan was a great actress as good as Stanwyke if not better. Watch her in Humoresque, both Possessed, Sudden Feàr, Mildred Pierce, The Damned Don't Cry, A Woman's Face and the list goes on

  • @scotnick59
    @scotnick59 4 года назад +20

    Love Stanwyck's straight-forward honesty: no B.S.

  • @lewisedwards4058
    @lewisedwards4058 4 года назад +13

    Nothing is ever off the record with a reporter.

  • @kattbaker7212
    @kattbaker7212 4 года назад +11

    Oh this is great tea ☕️

  • @naturalginger999
    @naturalginger999 7 лет назад +11

    These women Rock

  • @paulcashin3576
    @paulcashin3576 4 года назад +6

    Love the way Stanwyk says 'Bitch'.

    • @scotnick59
      @scotnick59 4 года назад +1

      Victoria Barkley uncensored!

    • @lynntownsend4457
      @lynntownsend4457 6 месяцев назад

      And Stanwyke was a bitch... what she did to her adopted son was unforgivable

  • @johnthomas3990
    @johnthomas3990 6 лет назад +9

    So much about New Years Eve. Dear God!!!

  • @erimacandelariasaldanovice1337
    @erimacandelariasaldanovice1337 5 лет назад +2

    Thank u!

  • @xfiler-gl7nc
    @xfiler-gl7nc 4 года назад +7

    When she comes to New York every 12 years I force her😂. Joan is so messy. Barbara is like When I got shit to do I have shit do I’m not dropping it to come see about her😂. Joan I’m use to luxury I’ve earned it. Joan was the truth. Barbara was spilling tea .... You see one night at LB’s party😂... you know she was about to be shady ass hell. She was the nastiest son of a bitch😂. Because she wasn’t at the main table. I know what she did to frachot 😂. Let me tell you what JC Did.. she will look you in the eye and make you believe😂.

    • @Feroal2
      @Feroal2 4 года назад +4

      LOL true but Idk about Joan being messy. People drank and smoked a lot more back then. Look at Amanda Bynes and Lindsay Lohan today, Britney Spears etc. I think they're crazier, and during a much easier time for addiction help.

  • @debra13
    @debra13 Год назад +2

    That first interview was such BS- they were just performing- even Joan's "accent." BS was fine except in the last interview, she seemed odd and maybe even tipsy herself. I don't really know what most of that last interview was about except Joan 's jewels, dog, and suspicion of cancer.

  • @gingermurray
    @gingermurray 8 месяцев назад +2

    Difficult to understand. Apparently Joan went through life wearing two faces. A face for her loyal fans. The glamorous movie star. Helping the less fortunate made Joan feel justifiable in her horrible behavior. A face whose behavior only friends and acquaintances knew about. You hear Stanwyck talking about Joan’s disturbing behavior.. which appalled Stanwyck. Stanwyck, a kind, caring loyal friend to janitors, crew, fans, fellow players. Everyone loved Stanwyck. So for her to speak out against one of her oldest friends means Stanwyck has been putting up with Crawford's antics for decades. Joan wasn’t a nice person, Joan was a drunkard and child abuser. Joan was mentally disturbed IMO. She never dealt with her childhood trauma. People didn’t in those days didn’t seek out help. Joan is the product of childhood trauma. Undiagnosed and untreated, you have millions of Joan’s trying to make their way through life. Joan did whilst wearing face number one.

    • @lynntownsend4457
      @lynntownsend4457 6 месяцев назад

      Stanwyke treated her adopted son horribly... Joan was kind to others she had bipolar. She and Barbara were lovers. I find Barbara an evil , backstabbing bitch

    • @joshuaortiz4886
      @joshuaortiz4886 3 месяца назад

      I feel like this is the most accurate assessment we could come to, tbh.

  • @fr7455
    @fr7455 5 лет назад +5

    I can't understand a word Joan is saying.

    • @abbigailgutzeit
      @abbigailgutzeit Год назад

      It’s funny that I can understand every word.

  • @jackiekidwell5004
    @jackiekidwell5004 4 года назад +20

    With friends like Eder and Stanwyck, Joan Crawford didn't need any enemies !! The sad part is, Crawford thought these jerks were friends, especially Stanwyck. Never liked Stanwyck anyways.

    • @stephanopmaria
      @stephanopmaria 3 года назад +7

      I feel exactly the same way!!

    • @-elchoya9832
      @-elchoya9832 3 года назад +10

      never liked crawford.

    • @scotnick59
      @scotnick59 3 года назад +1

      @@-elchoya9832 Ditto.

    • @EYE_GOTCHA
      @EYE_GOTCHA 2 года назад +7

      Well, Joan wasn’t the best person, herself.

  • @jubalcalif9100
    @jubalcalif9100 2 года назад +2

    I've read that vodka was Joan's adult beverage of choice. I wonder if she ever mixed her vodka with milk of magnesia. That's called a PHILLIPS SCREWDRIVER.

    • @blue3381
      @blue3381 2 года назад

      *poured into a Pepsi bottle

  • @michaelrobertson2671
    @michaelrobertson2671 7 лет назад +4

    what sickening phoniness! lol

    • @scotnick59
      @scotnick59 6 лет назад +6

      Crawford, yes: Stanwyck: not nearly so much

    • @abbigailgutzeit
      @abbigailgutzeit Год назад

      You guys literally only hate her because of Mommie Dearest when you guys didn’t even listen to her side of her story and she got defend a lot

    • @JonathonDenson
      @JonathonDenson 11 месяцев назад +2

      Assuming what Stanwyck said about Crawford was true, she was awfully two-faced for pretending to be her friend and talking so much crap on her to a columnist..