Oh I know I feel bad because the first part of this video is such lazy RUclips content but the AA bit is actually interesting. I love how I really didn't find it funny when I read it at home, and when doing it on camera the generator thing just killed me.
Except all this celeb balderdash is not coming true. Even someone as sensationalist as Matt Watson and team has driven dozens of EVs to the very last energy and the experience of such drivers is well documented ... didn't need to ask AA for that. You are looking at (usually) 10 to 15 miles of usable range from the car ... sometimes at lower power ... at less than (reported) 0% battery. EV manufacturers are not idiots. Contrast this with the experience of running out of fuel on the motorway in an ICE cat where it stops dead in whatever lane it is in. In seconds. Such a failure of the power tain in an ICE car is way more disruptive and way more dangerous to other road users.
My advice is don't get one. We got one through work, it's a piece of utter junk. Build quality, and range. Please, don't follow our steps. Internal combustion are 100x better.
@@blueband8114 Build quality, maybe. Range - no ... the range on my car is 200 miles every single day for 30 seconds *of my time* charging it up - ICE doesn't have a hope in heck of that. As regards "100x" better ... well, if that were true then the likes of Top Gear, 5th Gear, and endless other commentators globally would be having a field day (and sales would suck - which they don't). And 100x better because they are quicker? No. Safer? No. Have greater function? No. Faster (in any materially relevant sense for the majority of use cases)? No. And they are not 100x times cheaper (if at all). Or more convenient (and for those with a driveway ICE is way *less* convenient). So ... where do you get your "100x" from? Ah yes, sorry - I forgot - you like having to service it every single year. That makes them 100x times gbetter. Yes ... definitely .. ah nmo .. wait. It doesn't either.
@@terminal-velocity111 Al Gore at Davos said fossil fuels are boiling the oceans! Must be true then. That will save cooking the fish! 😊 Al fuels his private jet on virtue tho, so all good there.
A friend is a RAC man, he says he has to collect alot of EV cars purely because they get stuck at broken chargers and don't have the range to get to the next one
But that isn't an EV failing. It is simply a reflection of where we currently are with charging infrastructure. How easy and straightforward do you suppose it was to get petrol just 10 years or so after the motor car first appeared. The petrol station infrastructure wasn't exactly brilliant then either. Everything starts somewhere. This is where we are 10 years in.
@@Brian-om2hh But where will we be in 6 years and 10 months time Brian, because then all new cars will have to be EV's. Will the infrastructure be in place by then ?, and will it be reliable, or will we all be saying that our EV's are great, but we can't charge them, but that's ok. By the way in the early day's of the motor car, petrol engines weren't mandated hy the government of the day, so your comparison is ludicrous, because anyone who bought a car in those days knew that they were early adopter's, and knew what they were getting into voluntarily.
@@paulhillman400 Your problem there is the government, not the technology. The necessary infrastructure has been rolled out in Norway over approx that timescale, and we have 1.5x the land area of the UK and 1/12th the population. in 2016 we had 500 "fast" chargers (all 50kW or less), now we have 5600 (50-300kW). I think we've stopped bothering to count the slow chargers, cos they are everywhere. This was done with appropriate incentives to the network installers alongside a rapid (and incentivised) increase in EV sales to use them. I agree that with the current government this won't happen in the UK though. I agree that the comparison with the horse to car transition is stupid. It annoys me every time i see it cos it is flawed in almost every way.
@@15bit62 I think you will find the basic problem is running out of charge in the UK being an obvious disincentive to potential EV purchases here! Yes you are lucky to live in Norway which is leading the world in terms of percentages of EV's etc. This is the reason you can be so smug living in Norway: What is the energy production mix in Norway? The vast majority of electricity produced in Norway comes from hydro power. In 2021, hydro accounted for 91.5 percent of electricity output in the Nordic country. Wind power contributed another 7.5 percent to Norway's electricity mix.15 Dec 2022 Most countries simply lack the geographical attributes to even dream of that much hydro power! If we were discussing hot springs and geothermal power, then you would be at the back of the class looking at Iceland with envy! It's purely luck that Norway has the terrain to enable such things!
It will also be interesting to hear how sales of these "old fashioned" vehicles do once we see mass ULEZ charging schemes almost everywhere...... These could easily add a further £30 to £80+ per week onto the running cost of an ICE vehicle.
When vehicles over a certain age are exempt from ULEZ and are much cheaper to buy and maintain than EVs and have a virtually guaranteed mileage range It is a no brainer especially when the depreciation is negligible compared to that of the EVs! plus insurance is greatly reduce too!
@@bowsh1238 Aren't EV's meant to be green and save the planet? How is it 'Saving the planet' when fossil fuels have to be used to bail out that motorist? (Using electricity ain't that green either when the wind stops blowing and the sun ain't shining!)
@@rachelsmith8023 I didn't buy a EV because it was green, most others I know didn't. I bought it because it's cheaper to run, much faster, quieter and just more convenient. So yeah if someone drives a diesel van to help someone that breakdown up I don't particularly care
My stepdad bought a VW EV and in winter it said 90 miles from full to empty when he turned the heater on. I was smiling cause my little Fiesta will still do 300 miles with the heater on.
The tyre issue reminded me of reviews when they comment on the torque from standing. This feature is bound to stress the tyres I expect. The other issue is life of the car dictated by the life of the batteries. When the batteries wear out after a life of becoming increasingly less efficient. Decreasing power and range. The price of replacement rendering the whole vehicle a write off. How is that good for the environment when much of environmental cost is making it in the first place.
What absolute cobblers! Once the battery pack begins to lose efficiency - usually after 10+ years - it can be refurbished. This costs just a fraction of the price of replacing the whole battery pack. Try watching the RUclips video of the UK owner of a 10 year old Nissan Leaf. He took his car to Cleveleys Electric Vehicles in Gloucestershire, for a battery pack refurbishment. The work took 4 hours, and the cost was £500. Cleveleys posted a video of the refurb on RUclips, specifically so that those uninformed individuals, who felt that you *had* to buy a new battery costing thousands, could end up better informed.....
Too true! And while the AA/RAC are attending a flat EV, there’s some other poor sod stuck in a live lane on a “smart motorway” waiting to get wiped out by some twat on their mobile phone.
Because it often isn’t negligence. It’s just bad fortune. I had a situation where I got to a road closure in SW Scotland due to flooding. The diversion was 100 miles and I only had 23% charge. I found my chargers, but it could have been much worse. Chargers often don’t work, or are fully occupied. No one ever sets out on a journey knowing that they won’t complete it. If I didn’t have enough charge it wouldn’t be in the middle of the road, but more likely it would be at a broken charger knowing I couldn’t make it to the next charger.
I only hired a pure EV once, in Madrid. It didn't do the range it thought it would, and I drove it slowly for ages in 'tortoise mode' before the bastard thing expired completely. I walked the last few Km back to the hire place. So, 100% of my own experience was 'Main battery exhausted'- the range anxiety before it did so was quite stressing too.
here in Australia a tow truck driver told me 90 percent of the breakdowns that he recovers in modern cars are always the computer and electronics if not in accident , he always says to buy an old car easy to repair and rarely breaks down
I couldn't agree with you more. Best car I ever had in terms of reliability was a 1967 for Anglia, and as soon as I can find one that hasn't rusted away, I'm buying it.
One issue with a lot of new cars is in an effort to save weight they do not have a spare tire. Most of the newer cars I tow are either no starts or just quit while driving. Last weekend I was dispatched to tow a brand new Chevrolet Silverado he had bought the day before. It was extremely cold and I spent 15 minutes trying to figure out how to get it in neutral as they now have an electronic shifter. There is no override. There is "car wash mode" where it can be left in neutral not running but has to be running to initially be put in neutral. I was about to drag it on my truck in park and it finally started. Some manufacturers put ways to disengage park when it's dead, but lots do not. It's quite infuriating
@@mikebreen2890 As a driver of one - you are mistaken. On the other hand, mine is actually efficient and uses the full battery capacity. It's not limited either in the sense that all of the commercial EVs are. Batteries drain, and as the full voltage drops off, so too does your top speed, torque, power, everything is actually waning. Fancy capacitor and transistor banks are used to give you the impression that it isn't, but that's a great indication that you were never using 100 percent of the available power at any time. Nor does mine simply stop when the charge reaches 70 percent, I can still squeeze several good miles out of them at a reduced speed. A consumer EV actually cuts you off dead on the road when it could limp you home. Anyway I'd suggest electrical engineering and logic classes, between the two you'd learn some things you don't know.
I have every confidence EV's *will* end up being used en masse, as new ICE cars will no longer be obtainable after the end of 2029. ICE cars will have their limitations when oil runs dry.
I don't think they care about that actually, as long as they don't get stuck. I fear they will double down. Reason EVs don't work is because we haven't spent enough!
Reason they won’t be used en masse is at he moment they’re paying me not to run my washing machine to save electricity. How are we going to charge them ?
Come visit Norway - i think you will be disappointed. Last year 79% of new cars were full EV, and we're now up to 21% of all registered passenger cars on the road being full EV. There might be limitations, but widespread electrification is far from impossible.
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Just a quick EV related story in California USA last summer after going green and with the maximum EV cars on the road owners came home to plug in there cars and the air conditioning the city had a power outage hospitals needed to put emergence generators on , in England the power grid has a problem when every one puts the kettle on during the break of coronation street.
That used to happen all the time when we only had three tv channels. Everyone was making a cup of tea in the as breaks. Power surges always happened then. Nowadays we all do stuff all over the place.
The start of your video gave me flashbacks. I was driving a 4x4 when everything seized up, all the lights came on the dash and oil pouring out onto the road... Phoned the AA for help getting my vehicle home, explained everything etc and said I need a flatbed or similar, and their response was "We'll send an engineer out to see if he can fix it". Engineer comes out several hours later and looks at it and says "there's nothing I can do I think you've thrown a rod. I'll have to get a flatbed to drive you home." In my head I'm screaming I Fu#king said this over the phone!
@@GeoffBuysCars I'm the same as yourself, give all the available information up front. That's what really annoyed me. I trained as a mechanic, I knew what I was saying. If it wasn't 2am I would of called my work colleague to get the beast from yard to get me home. Would of saved me 4 hours of my life 😭 Brilliant video, as normal sir 👍
@@GeoffBuysCars I worked for the AA as a patrol & recovery driver some years ago as a stop-gap job after returning from an overseas contract. As a qualified vehicle technician, I was surprised to find out that I was one of just a handful. You could be a butcher, baker, candlestick maker & after two weeks training, you were let loose to go and ply your trade, or lack of it. Also, it was normal practice (& seems to still be the case) where they will always send a man in a van first. One job I remember attending was where the propshaft (rear-wheel drive) had come adrift at one end, thrashed around destroying various vital components on the underside of the car. The driver told me that he had explained this to the call centre over the phone, then I turned up, in a van. Life's a bitch, then you die🙃
Been there done that with a failed clutch on a hire car. In the end I drove it 14 miles, through Wolverhampton and to my parents in Shropshire... Clutchless. Then phoned AA to give them the new location of the car to pick up.
Thank you for making me chuckle Geoff, what an absolute shambles this EV nonsense is proving to be, stay strong everyone and fight for our freedom to travel by which ever method we so choose, unhindered by despot local councils, withholding our council tax will totally stymie them also…..
What have local councils got to do with this? Try withholding your Council Tax and see how quickly you will end up in court, then let your possessions be taken by the bailiffs.
@@TheLongonot62 the bbc said that regarding the tv licence now fast forward a few years there’s millions that don’t pay this silly licence tax ( including me ) , I’m afraid the council tax will probably be the next one the way the country’s going, just saying 😎
The first EV was around 1900. Quickly they didn't work. Now over 100 years there is pressure to go electric. If EVs were better than ICE vehicles manufacturers would of been building them back then. No it's a scam made up by politicians jumping on the climate change theory. To stop this vote anybody who says it's baloney
In my local garage the other day, I asked if they were going to upgrain their ramps to cope with EVs. They said no because we can not get insurance to have them on the premises.
The knobs are the most common problem with EVs, according to a guy i know who works for green flag, unfortunately the knob isn't covered on the breakdown policy, second time the knob fails he will incur a fee.
Right, I had a year ago SClass failure in Glasgow - snapped axle shaft where AA (in 45min) send a small Iveco flatbed to diagnose and take the car to Mercedes service. The flatbed was to small to lift the 2.2t SClass, so I waited another 8h, yes eight hours, for a lorry flatbed. So can only imagine problems with 2.5 tone or heavier EV cars stranded on the road 🥴
Not an EV problem AA not moving fast enough with the times , and by the way if cars were limited by size weight most of the chelsea tractors would be off the road THANK GOD
The majority of EVs sold in Britain today are significantly lighter than an S Class and a lot smaller. And the 2.2t bmws and merc EVs will continue to be shrink as a proportion of EVs on the road.
Electric cars ARE the future... a future in which nobody living in a city owns a car. When those future people use an app to schedule a ride, the car that picks them up will indeed be an EV, it'll just be owned by some mega corporation. So congrats to all you EV enthusiasts: your amazing future awaits.
I tried a eV truck while working for a well known distribution centre it had a 200 mile range went 40 miles on it with a 27ton load on the trailer and it went from 100% to 0 in about 45 mins and had to be towed back to my depot. I hired an audi eV for the day and out of curiosity I had it weighed and was shocked at the weight it weighed 2.5 tons and the range was saying 300 mile but it was half that.
Yes,but net zero is about 7 years away,so where is all this energy coming from,and at what cost and hassles,cause when the sun don't shine and the wind don't blow,mostly at night,and everybody plugs in everything for heating,for cooking,media,their cars,and when the power goes off and trips your overload through the day and your fridge or freezer doesn't restart,this is total lunacy,and then there are the flats,condos,high rise hotels where the wiring is not designed for charging electric cars,I say the sooner we see the lunacy of this agenda ,the sooner we get back to practicality and what works,and has done for 100 years,there is no climate emergency,more a pseudo religion by fanatics and billionaires,the WEF,the WHO,NATO,the UN,and when all else fails,they take you to war,and I think nuclear weapons will definitely impact the climate,just saying!
I know where the charger power comes from. 80% likely to be generated at a conventional power station burning gas or oil. EVs use a lot of fossil fuel, particularly the posh high power ones.
We need more channels like this. Great report. I have been driving 54 years and called the AA out once for an electrical fault on a car I just bought for £185, other than that nothing in a million miles in 50+ countries. To be fair there is only one thing wrong with EVs..they are shite.
Which EV's have you owned, which you felt were shite? Is your opinion based on actual ownership experience, or is it just a knee jerk reaction, based on nothing?
@@Brian-om2hh I would rather lose a leg than go through the anxiety of driving an Ev. Where should I start, I am in Italy at present on a 10,000km trip how much time would I spend getting refuled? In the services there were 2 cars queuing and the summer is not even here and there are not tbat many idiot owners yet. At the same services there were 5 cars queuing for 65c LPG all fuelled up and gone in 5 minutes, with the option of petrol, these are smart people. CO2 is not killing the planet quite the contrary, listen to Dr. Patrick Moore founder of Greenpeace, rather than fools like Al Gore and child actors Greta Thunberg.
I have never lost confidence in electric cars - I never had any to lose. Right from the start I said they would be a failure and they have been at every step. Even the manufacturers know it.People want to get from A to B without any inconvenience. They want to fill the boot with shopping from the supermarket, travel 4 or 500 miles to a holiday destination and then have the freedom to visit the seaside or NT properties or attend steam rallies etc. All this is easy if you can just spend 3 or 4 minutes filling up with petrol. But who wants to be forced to spend half your holiday waiting for charging and paying for overnight stays because of a 15 hour queue at the charging point. And then you have to sod about with "apps" on a phone and get faced with rip off charges too. At least you know how much petrol is. If you go electric, get a small van then you can install a diesel generator and run it throughout your journey and make a mockery of the whole thing. 😠
A curious thing - i have an EV and i have no problem doing all of the above (except filling up with petrol obviously). I drove from central Norway to central england in 3 days in July, via stockholm. More than 3000km in total, with no problems at all. Well one problem - eurotunnel was delayed 2.5 hours. Charging during the driving legs was as simple as driving up to one of many many fast charging stations and plugging the car in and waiting 25 mins (well actually going for a pee, buying a sandwich, walking the dog for 10 mins and ramming a sandwich down my throat cos the car had finished charging already). Charging in the evening involved the incredibly time-consuming task of parking the car next to the charger at the hotel and plugging it in. It might be that i am uniquely touched by god, but since i know plenty of EV owners who happily take their families from Norway to Swizerland, France, Spain, Germany etc. on vacation, i don't think i am special in any way. Honestly, they aren't some sort of unusable garbage forced upon you by a bunch of hippy halfwits. EVs are totally usable everyday cars. All you have to do is dare to think slightly differently about how you use your car and treat "refuelling" as something that can be done whilst doing other things and not a specific act in itself. Mine even allows me to leave the dog inside for an hour or two with the aircon running and a clear message on the screen telling passersby what the cabin temperature is. Plus it gets to 140mph down the autobahn in no time at all.
A generator won't do you much good I'm afraid. You'd need a generator the size of a shed to get the current you'd usefully need to charge an EV. Electric car owner here..... And all newly installed chargers (at least those installed in the last 18 months or so) must have a contactless payment facility by law. so no apps needed.
@@Brian-om2hh they are still very much a backward step at the present moment. Friend of mine has a Model S Tesla. He wasn’t confident enough to drive 100 odd miles to the coast for a weekend break, and get back home. So he didn’t go. Paid north of £45k for this second hand as well. Currently lack of infrastructure, and way too expensive compared to diesel / petrol.
@@markstarmer3677 Cool story but I call bullshit. Had no problem doing "just" 176 miles each way last weekend. Tesla has the best route planning software that incorporates superchargers effortlessly. Any Tesla driver knows this and can easily see that 100 miles is simply not a problem. The car would plan in charging stops and can see live availability of charger stalls, along with real time consumption data to show plan versus actual. It's all rather trivial to be honest. Maybe your neighbour is absolutely clueless but that's not a fault of the car which is completely capable of what was asked. Way cheaper than petrol or diesel too. Sorry to spoil the narrative.
Hey Geoff, Since a few days I have been watching your videos on EV vehicles and I absolutely love them! Since 3,5 years I am the proud owner of a Mazda 323 from 1999, and I really love this car. My ambition is to drive it until it breaks, so far I never had any major problems besides some minor repairs. It is cheap, it is reliable and it is definitely more eco-concious then buying an electric car. Also I am repairing more and more my own car together with a friend, which is a wonderful experience. Let's hope I can continue driving this car the next 10, or maybe, 15 years. In my opinion I think legislation will kill this car before mechanical failure will. Love from the Netherlands!
If you counted how many vehicles go through a filling station and how long it takes, imagine the size of parking area required to accomodare all these evs sat waitng to charge. Plus you can guarantee that the price of charging will increase because a percentage will be added for as a parking charge.
@@djtaylorutube 50% of UK car owners dont have a driveway or designated parking place. They park in the street... With a bit of luck they even manage to park in the same street as the one the live in... Tho mostly they cant rely on that
@@djtaylorutube No it's much much worse, because a 5 minute 'recharge' of a diesel car gives 600+ miles of range and a half hour EV recharge gives a third of that range at best so that means that 90 times more chargers are needed than the current amount of diesel pumps, just to match the status quo with IC cars. Good luck recharging at home when you live on the eleventh floor of an apartment block or similar.
Most charging will be at home in a driveway, at residential charging posts and lampposts on street or in charge point equipped residential car parks. You won't have droves of people visiting a charging station every time they need a charge as people will only do that when on a journey longer than the range of their vehicle. Your car will charge when you are not using it, at home or at destination, like shopping centre or other activity.
@@sahhull I understand that, more work is required there without a doubt. Other countries are getting there, I don't hold so much hope for the UK which is only run by criminally corrupt, self serving, short term, no strategy individuals. China, with all its built up population, is a decade ahead of anyone.
I was talking to a Tesla owner the other day and he was telling me the car ripped through tires because of the weight and the torque, he also said he suffers from range anxiety 😱😱
Then he seriously needs to learn how to interpret the higher amount of information available to him. Either that, or he's not too smart. It's literally all there, laid out for him.
@@djtaylorutube Most people that drive... Drive the thing from A to B. They dont faff with the electronic info crud after the novelty value wears off. Its the same with ICE cars that have electronic crud in them.
@@djtaylorutube why is it when someone is just telling it as it is about the experience he is having with his EV that people like you have to suggest that he lacks intelligence, actually he is an engineer and intelligent enough to be able to afford one of these high priced vehicles 🤔🤔
AAAaaahhh, the converted greenie. Lovely to see him suffer just like the people he deprive of electricity in Africa, and the child labor used to mine the cobalt in Congo due to his suffragenicity for the "environment".
I ceased being an AA member in 1985 after they botched my change of address notice. I have never needed them (because I maintain my own vehicles) and am wealthier by 38 years of subscriptions.
It appears to affect ICE drivers more than EV drivers for some inexplicable reason. I have never felt range anxiety, and my EV only does 110 miles on a charge. But I know it’s limitations. I haven’t heard from some geezer on YT.
@@oneeyedgirl617 depends on how you use your car. In Australia, most people rarely drive long distances, for them an EV might be perfect. But some people do drive long distances. I regularly drive 800+km to visit family. My diesel car does this easily on a tank. I have family who live much further away too. 1200 km, and I can still drive that far without having to refuel. For me, an EV simply wouldn't work. I'd be having to do overnight stops on these trips.
Great video Geoff EV is not the future. I work in the trade and deal on a daily basis with EV breakdowns and a big DIESEL truck recovering them 😂. I will stick with my 2002 Volvo S60 D5 never lets me down.
I think you are correct Geoff! There is a place for EVs but this EV-mania needs to be addressed with actual user experience data that you supply. Replacing one set of problems with an even larger set of problems in such a short time is a stupid and reckless way to go. Thanks for helping to prove that the entire world has not gone MAD.
Nice to see someone acknowledge there is a place for EVs. I have been driving an EV for 7 years and it suits my needs. I don’t tell everyone They should change as they are not the best solution for everyone. I don’t do many long journeys so rarely need to use public chargers. Typical range on my car is 280 miles but have managed over 300. A lot is down to the way you drive and the type of journeys. I don’t go through tyres any quicker than before I went electric, because I am not flooring it and using all that torque. People need to consider what they are buying and understand to pros and cons of the vehicles before making a decision. Do we need to ban petrol and diesel, NO.
Although now retired, I've worked in the motor industry all my life. I didn't know an ev had another battery. Thanks for that Geoff, every day's a learning day. 👍
The last time I phoned the AA was back in 1998 - I had a Ford Fiesta Mk 1 Ghia at the time, and I knew that the alternator was failing, so I drove it around with every electrical system on and then parked up at home (I had taken out the Home Start option on my membership). Sure enough, the car wouldn't start so I called them out and they came out and replaced the alternator for the princely sum of £37! Much cheaper and faster than taking the car to a garage.
you won't get your alternator replaced by breakdown companies these days, mind you with the book time on some cars being 6hours plus who can blame them.
I'm a taxi driver with an MG5 EV with now 51k miles done over the last 2 years more than happy so far these issues are over exaggerated, I won't be going back
I did hear a story of a new Hyundai that had it’s hard drive corrupted when it was plugged in for a charge it had to be recovered to a main dealer who fixed it eventually but couldn’t guarantee it wouldn’t happen again eventually the car was returned as not fit for purpose. The main batteries only drive the car the 12v battery you refer to power everything else including accessing the car when it’s low or dead you out in the cold some manufacturers have big problems on some models with these batteries constantly draining.
There was a Tesla on the side of the road in Coventry last week, hooked up to a Fiat 500 over two days, I thought it was charging the Fiat battery - two days later off went the Tesla on the back of a low loader...I now assume the Fiat was trying to charge the 12v in the Tesla...
It's how recovery services work... I called the RAC and told them my serpentine belt had snapped... Waited 2 hours sat in car -4 outside. They turned up in a van diagnosed snapped belt and they would need a recovery truck.... 2 hours longer I had to wait. Yet if they took note of what I said at 3:30 in the afternoon the van guy said he could have got one and fixed it at the side of the road. But they didn't tell him the fault.
Just a comment based on the very end of your video Geoff - I had a similar nightmare with the AA last year, broke down on the side of a dual carriageway at 6.40am (weekday) and it took the AA 6hrs to remove me from the dangerous position as they wouldn’t send their own patrols due to the position being dangerous. They employed another recovery company to do the same. Once in a safe place, it took them another 8.5hrs to get me back home. I will never spend another penny with the AA. I doubt the RAC are much better - following your comment 🙉
Geoff your a top bloke and I knew this when you said that celebrity TV shows are trying to make the general public forget what’s actually happening in the world.. 😅
On the subject of EV chargers. In Plymouth we had several on street chargers that have now been switched off. The trial period came to an end and the company that owns them says that they will be upgraded and recommissioned when they have agreed with Plymouth City Council a new deal. So currently we have about 20 charging points less. A great inconvenience to local residents who live in apartments etc.
A local grocery store in a town of 13k has had an EV charging station (several charging units) for going on a year. Never once seen it being used. No doubt our tax dollars paid to build it.
What would happen if 20 million people filled up with petrol all at once? Petrol would run out, that's what. Not everyone needs to fill up every day. This is the bit you non EV owners don't get. I only need to charge my EV every 8 to 9 days. And don't forget that if 20 million people had electric cars, there would be *much* more spare capacity in the grid, because the UK's oil refineries would no longer be producing as much petrol and diesel. If 20 million people have EV's, they're not still going to keep buying petrol and diesel are they? So there would be no need to produce as much......
The demand on the grid in 2022 was less than in 2016. Fact. Charging an EV at home uses 7kW. What else uses 7kW? oh yes, an electric shower. So does anyone worry that 20 million people are going to have a shower at the same time? No.
@@Fanakapan222 The reality is, everyone plugs in at different times, thus spreading out the peak in consumption. If we all plugged in at exactly 6pm, it might be a problem. But if I plug in at 6pm, and you plug in at 6:10pm, then the "spike" in the grid is evened out a bit. Eventually, with smart metres and smart chargers, the grid can automate charging times in order to suit it's requirements and demands, and ensuring that we all have a full charge by the morning. So instead of me having a 4 hour charge, the grid may decide to give me 4 x 1 hour charges spread over the night time for example. The end result for me is the same, but the grid has managed the load better.
Like watching your electric meter not moving when your not using any power at home you mean? I think we need to explain something to you, if you don't switch a light on, it doesn't use power. If an EV is standing still, even with someone in the driving seat, its using little to no power. I say little because they may want the radio on or something, but even air con will last a day or more. And sometimes they don't use power when moving forward either, like when going down hill or when braking. Hope this helps?
A little youtube watching or even sitting in an even for more than 100m will show you just exactly how wrong that "imagine" scenario is. The levels if data on the energy used at all times in EV will make it obvious how that imaginary world is just silly.
@@aidanapword @Steve Matthews @ Eddie Reed I sat in standstill traffic on the M6 in the middle of the night in my classic mini and after about 10 minutes of not moving the Tesla next to me was forced to turn off their lights and no doubt their heater. This was a couple of weeks ago during winter in the UK so don’t try and tell me that Tesla owners don’t experience squeaky bum time every time they get stopped unexpectedly and we all know that to get the most mileage they practically have to turn everything off. Face facts electric cars are dog poo.
My (major) tyre dealers told me that EV cars cannot/should not/must not be jacked up using a single jack. This can and has caused battery packs in the floor to flex and destroy themselves. As a solution they invested in a bespoke lifting system to life all 4 corners simultaneously and keep the car level when changing or repairing tyres...clearly not something that can be done at home or by the roadside. Have you encountered this issue Geoff ?
I think in the race to get an EV on the market, manufacturers haven't fully thought out their designs. Telsa being a prime example. A certain ex top gear presenter had to charge up the 12v battery on his Tesla with a seperate charger after staying at home during lock down. Even though he'd left the HV charging cable plugged in through lock down. Very poor design.
Agreed, but I believe Tesla did an over wifi update of there software when this issue became apparent. They had not expected the car to be unused for so long. Do ICE car have similar issues when not run for a while?
3 years with my first EV, 45k miles. Never run out of charge (it tells me to charge with 30 miles range left) and still on first set of tyres. Took them to get front changed last week and they said no need still well legal
So here's the thing, we could be planting more trees, restoring our woods and forests, across the UK and Europe. Since basic science has shown us, plants take in carbon dioxide (CO2) during photosynthesis, planting more trees should reduce so-called CO2 levels, and we can keep our ICE cars.
Your all falling for this climate change BS it's the elitists crafty way of making money ? And a great way to keep drivers in danger ,so then they can stop us gadding about , it's a form of control and people can't see the agenda !keep buying electric to help them to control you ,nothing wrong with this planet nothing lies !?
I bought a 2015 Hyundai i10 in 2017. I love it. It has never let me down. Only had some minor advice notes, soon sorted at MOT. No big spend. Had to have something done to ABS in September. I will hang on to it as long as I can.
Me going 60 mile journey in winter by diesel -warm as toast and no worries. (No african child labourers hurt in my oil drilling either) You going 59 miles in winter by EV - Thick coat and woolly hat and range anxiety. Cobalt, anyone !
As requested, I have an EV…. It’s a company car and as such it really is the only option due to the way BIK now works. Ive had it for three years and covered about 32k. As its a Tesla charging has never been an issue and in answer to your question Ive never once had to call for recovery. It’s on its second set of tyres. As a car it’s fine and is capable of 0-60 in just over 3 seconds though the novelty of this has lessened over time. I will definitely order another EV due to the BIK situation. I also own a petrol Z4 which I much prefer to drive 😂
My father is a recovery truck driver… a bit off topic I know but he says that if you want a really terrible car you should get a brand new BMW or a new Land-rover.
I am waiting to see what the authorities will do if a load of EV’s get stuck on a main motorway due to a flash snow storm and they all run out of juice. It’s not as though they can send a bowser of fuel out to get them moving!
Why might an EV run out of "juice" in a snow storm? An EV has a battery large enough to run a HOUSE for 3 or 4 days! Heating 2 cubic metres of space inside a car isn't going to cause any issues. An EV uses very little battery power when stationary. You people have some weird perceptions regarding electric cars.....
@@altern8tive let’s hope your never stupid enough to get caught in a flash snow storm as the UK is never equipped to deal with extremes of weather at the best of times and I got caught in a flash snow storm coming back at night which almost stopped me in my tracks driving a four wheel drive car - all be it a high powered impractical vehicle. The blizzard came out of nowhere and the road was under several inches of snow in minutes. It’s happened before on UK roads in the last decade or so and all the drivers were evacuated off the A38 at Kenford and I’m sure a lot of them expected they could deal with the conditions.
That's issue, in ICE when u car told u have 160miles that's mean if u park your car now, gets to -10°C u return to car and still can make 160miles. U remember what level is in your tank. U can park for months (and if u have working 12V battery) return to car and start like nothing happened.
Roadside assistance stops for EVs must average several times those of ICEs. Of course we need to know actual figures. Peterborough city council are increasing their charger costs to 70p per kWh, this is the equivalent of on excess of £3 per litre of fuel. Thanks for the details about weight. It was something that hasn't been made clear previously. An EV being two to three times the weight of an ICE.
Er Mark. My Kia eNiro weighs less than a Range Rover. A Tesla Model 3SR weighs less than a BMW 5 Series estate car. Do a bit of research before you post mate......
@@Brian-om2hh The Tesla has 23 cu feet of cargo volume (incl passengers) while the Estate car has nearly 70 cu feet of cargo volume. Try to keep comparisons to like-capabilities ... and you will find that ICE blows away all electric competition.
I know a building firm had a electric fork truck , they said pretty good but they have to connect it to a diesel generator & it took 8-10 hours to charge it up for the next day's work . The thing is it takes more diesel to charge up in one night than they would use all week on a diesel fork truck , work that one out .
Hydrocarbon fueled forklifts spew waste products that you don't want settling on products like fruit and vegetables or other sensitive things and they are very noisy compared to electrics.... just 2 reasons right there.
@bkeepr it's a building site not a fruit & veg shop & uses five times more diesel to charge it for the weeks work , that not only crazy it's stupid & very expensive.
I get the reason for using them in doors, I've used them myself but on a building site where they have no power supply (yet) to use it & then use 4-5 times as much diesel to charge it up is not only stupid but totally incompetent.
Fantastic video mate, well none and you hit the nail on the head on many points on EVs. I am still amazed how easily people fall for the green policies of the politicians. Electric cars are just very expensive golf buggies, nothing more. Just like with any other device with lithium based batteries, their performance drops in very cold and hot conditions especially cold hence the range. I totally agree with you on the weight of these are generally heavier than a normal 4WD eg my defender is 2.1T most EVs are heavier than that. Battery technology is not the right power source for cars at the moment, far too heavy and inefficient.
So now you just need to produce the stats on all those screen failures to compete the credibility... Incidentally, the car still drives, the voice control still works, indicators work, horn works, lights work etc. In fact you can soft reboot the screen while driving.
@@djtaylorutube Tesla screens leak the lcd fluid and the screen fails. Tesla know about the issue yet they just put another screen in... Not sure what happens when the warrenty expires. The same with the door handles
It's the fire risk that scares me! Getting yanked out without a neck brace or backboard in an accident, as the rescue service know the high risk in electric shocks or rapid ignition
Fire risk in an ICE car is many multiples (possibly) an order of magnitude higher (measured per mile driven). This is well documented, data and logic supported, fact. And cabin or fuel-system fires rip through the vehicle far faster than any battery fire would.
The Two Show at the NEC last year was full of very expensive reovery trucks with cranes to lift broken EVs onto the bed with. Breakdown operators say they've never had it so good.
@@mikebreen2890 If an ICE car runs out of fuel, it can usually just be refuelled and on its way...possibly may need the injection bled. If an EV rans out of charge, it cannot be quickly refuelled on the spot, or even pushed out of the way. It's either a wheels-up tow, or recovery with a crane lorry. Did you know that EVs have a higher failure rate at first MoT than ICE cars? Source: Motor Trends. Don't tell me you've bought an EV...
So true. I bought a second hand Renault Kangoo EV to see what electric cars are like. Stopped working. A year in a Renault garage, £4,000 in repairs, not including replacement battery paid for by Renault (€ 13,500) and, guess what? Still doesn't work. Not only can Renault not make a decent car, they can't repair it when it brakes down. I reckon they haven't got a clue what they're doing. I have to say, when it was working, it was my favourite car.
Phoned the RAC three times in six years of insuring my old SAAB. Let down every time and dealt with the fault myself, including lost a pulley and aux belt (no cooling = limp home), range of diesel in the tank lying to me (only did this once = almighty jump start. It primed itself.) Can't to that with an EV! I guess you just have to carry a generator everywhere you go? SAAB and Volvo used to say a break-down in the arctic can be fatal - so they used to make SAABs entirely serviceable from the top (that's before GM got hold of them). I once got a clutch change down to 20 minutes! And towed my own classic car back from the Lake District to Norfolk with an A-frame and second trip to collect it. Police looked on curiously in Yorkshire and Norfolk, but nobody stopped me. Can't do that with EV.
@@djtaylorutube You would have a massively reduced range if you were to tow with an EV You can't tow EVs easily either, due to them locking up the driven wheels when they don't have power, and they are considerably heavier than Petrol/Diesels.
@@ryanwilliams6526 Yes range is reduced but that's different from "can't do it". As to towing an EV, the wheels don't lock up. Suggest you do a quick RUclips search on "tow charging". I'm being specific here, with an EV normally powered on, it can be tow charged, it doesn't know the difference between that and going down a hill doing regenerative braking. Tow car mpg sucks balls though. :)
A 12V battery is good for 6-12 years. There is a company with vans and diesel generators that will come to your zero miles BEV and give it a get you home charge. They will charge quite a lot for this service.
have you seen the AA advert?.... showing us they are using electric recovery vans!!! I'd love to know how these are working out for the AA - would make a good new video
My Landrover stopped because it ran out of diesel. The fuel gauge showed empty before I set off, but this is the future, I’m not responsible for any of my actions!!
A relative has a 4 month old BMW 3 Series Hybrid Estate. He has has 3 punctures since new. No spare wheel so a recovery truck is required. Last time this happened, the driver said this was the sixth EV with a puncture he had dealt with that day.
@@eddiereed5025 The bain of my hubby's life 'wheel change no spare!' The eco nuts wanted them removed from the cars to save the planet. Doesn't save a person's life when they are stuck on the side of the motorway in danger with a can of squirty stuff and a knackered tyre. Many a car salesman has told a customer to leave the locking wheel nut at home to keep it safe too. Very helpful.
Apparently some EV's don't even have a jack as battery in too near the jacking points ! So a puncture has to be taken to a specialist to be lifted ! Ludicrous.
Mine has no jack, and no spare wheel either. Nothing new there. My cars have been like that for the last 10 years. Just a compressor and a tin of gunk. No need to jack the car up.
As a son of an AA patrolman, i always carry a jack, spare-wheel (full size), breaker bar, relevant wheel nut socket, with a set of jump leads. And surprise surprise i have never called out breakdown recovery for either a flat battery or spare.
The AA are NOT the only service available...there is a specialist company that has - they claim - better facilities and response than the AA. As always these 'larger' organisations are up themselves and. in general, are no where near as efficient as they ought to be. Good video, nice to see you laughing!
I used to use the AA for years. I now use a different breakdown company, who charge around half the cost of the AA, and are recommended by Which.......
Spot on about car's breaking down, to many people don't look after the maintenance of their vehicle. I've got a landrover discovery 2a V8 2003, had it for years, never let me down. My daughter has the same but a TD5. We've just been on a 3500 ks camping trip with no issues at all, apart from my dog having diarrhea in the back of my car 🤣🤪
But you will, in another 25 to 30 years.... But before then, you'll find petrol and diesel increasingly more difficult to find, probably beginning in another 10+ years.
But you will within the next 25 years. Some of it could be gone before then. Shell recently stated in their latest business report that they plan to cut production of petrol and diesel by 40% on the lead up to 2030...... Shell were one of the organisations who lobbied the UK Government to bring *forward* the ban on the sale of new ICE cars and vans to 2030, from the original date of 2035... The National Grid were another organisation who also lobbied for the ban to be brought forward.
@@Brian-om2hh In the UK most pubs and petrol stations are struggling as it is. I forecast that petrol stations will close increasing fast. Largely depends on Tesla getting to mass market prices.
Hi Geoff, have to agree with you on needing a generator to charge an EV as I was stuck in traffic on the London Road into Coventry one morning and it's a very busy road, but doesn't usually snarl up......unless your EV has died on you and you are sheepishly hiding behind a tree hoping no-one will see the big petrol generator that's thundering away behind it! Made worse by the fact it was on a dual carriageway section overlooked by a crowd of striking council workers and next to a busy bus stop full of kids plus it was a blue and yellow Tesla with "Help Ukraine" emblazoned down its sides! How my son and I laughed but forgot to film it all! 🤣
I thought most recovery vans now have a diesel generator and lead to plug in the car. They give them just enough charge to get to the nearest fast charger then follow the EV to ensure the charger is available and working.
LOL! I worked for a AAA road service and towing company here in the states several years. tires and fuel where the two most common problems and that was before EV where popular. Some hybrids where on the road but I only had to tow one. It was a Prius that the customer had lost the key fob too so I had to take it to the dealer. As far as running out of fuel, I would bet the same type people that don't plan ahead to keep gas in their tanks would also not plan ahead to have enough charge to drive their EVs. Like the celebrity article you read. User error! Your concern about the weight of EVs making tires less reliable is crazy. That is like saying a full size van or pickup truck is going to have more tire failures than a lighter car. Both vehicles are designed to use tires that match the weight and performance needs of the vehicle so tire failure would more likely because of poor maintenance or abuse of the vehicle than it's manufactured gross weight. Yes, some people just can't resist putting their EV in sport mode and driving like a mad man all the time prematurely wearing out their tires but the same behavior is common with the gas fueled muscle and super car owners too.
What about getting an MOT on an ev? Does your local MOT station cover EVs ? Are there special requirements, as electric vehicles will soon be of a certain age 🤔
Quite a number of garages are now being offered re-training courses to work on EV's Jonathan. The prime mover behind this is HEVRA the Hybrid and Electric Vehicle Repair Alliance. Both the guys in my local village garage have been on their course, and are certified for EV repairs and servicing.....
Less requirements for EVs than ICE. Suspension and lights and all the ancillary stuff remains unchanged. But no need to faddle with emissions and gearbox and other things too.
Never seen a broke down EV and I do 180 miles a day in my Tesla which I’ve owned 18 months! Seen 10s of Jaguars on the lay by oil everywhere! Does that ring bells with peeps ? Also only ever charge at home 😊
Does anyone know how much a generator cost that can produce 5 kw and what amount of fuel it would use to charge an EV . Also how much that type of generator weighs ? I'll tell you . A lot .
First ;3 feel for the mechanics tbh Edit after watching full vid: I look forward to the follow up 😅 feel like this one could blow up like an electric car battery! 🔋💥 I do want one of those Jump packs, I'll keep it in my glovebox! Wait... I can't 👀😂
Great one for you Geoff on this. I was called out to transport a family whose minibus could barely travel 35 miles after a quick charge. A round journey took 4 hours longer than it would have in a diesel due to frequent recharge stops. The round journey was 148 miles. From what I could ascertain they had stopped at least 3 times. From where they said they where to where I collected them I calculated 35 to 40 miles. The particular vehicle is suppose to have a range of 126 to 142 miles depending on battery pack.
The AA's groundbreaking battery to battery EV recharger, adds range to EV's without burning fossil fuels. Our mobile EV charger is capable of providing an emergency top-up at the roadside for an out of charge electric vehicle. Approximately 7.5 miles of range can be added in 15 minutes from on-board Lithium batteries that trickle charge through a smart charging system in normal use so there is no need to have an engine or generator running to charge an electric vehicle. The system can deliver an output of 16A - 32A to suit all popular electric vehicles.
Without telling us how many Kwh the 'Onboard' gizmo holds, and how many times it can perform before needing to refill, this comment is Cargo Cultism at its finest. As for the idea of fossil fuel free ? Presumably they/you want us to think the recovery van charges it up as it goes along ? Good luck with running an alternator that'll push out that much juice with normal driving. Its all bollocks.
@Fanakapan222 fair comment 👌 The idea that a system described above does not involve fossil fuels somewhere in the recharge is laughable. Also, how many vehicles can it recover before required recharge and how long does that take? Filling up a fuel can at a petrol station is probably way quicker!
Two things. Breakdown vans include a power bank so you don't need to use a diesel generator, rather a lithium based power bank which can charge the battery for around 10 - 12 miles. As for tyres. EV manufacturers recommend the use of low resistant tyres, together with a much lower need to use traditional brakes due to regenerative braking means that tyres last roughly the same as those on a traditional ICE car.
@@madb132 Yes the tyres cost more, never said otherwise. However while an EV costs more up front the TCO for an EV is actually less than an ICE Car. According to Direct Line. On average, based on purchase price and ownership costs over 14 years, an EV would cost £3,752 a year over the course of its life, compared to £3,858 for an ICE car. Yes, before you say it, yes the batteries will last 14 years if not longer, although they are warranted for between 7 & 10 years depending on manufacturer
The height of ignorance is depending on another lithium battery to save one that is flat. ARE PEOPLE UNABLE TO REASON THIS OUT? Use a different fuel to save one of these shitty EVs, unless you want your breakdown van to die as well, halfway through the task. When a manufacturer tells you to use low-resistant tires (low-friction tires) you should walk out the door and never return. Tires work on FRICTION alone.
Welcome to your future. You are right about people needing recovery over stupid things. Like a Amber check engine light. Which means carry on driving and get your mechanic to check it in the future. (Or 2 years with my Yaris before the mass air flow completely went). Like you said learn to change a spare tyre at the side of the road. But make sure you have a proper wheel. Jak and tools to do so. Tyre weld is useless for a shredded tyre. (As I found out with my Honda accord.) The only time I've called them out was last year when my 2003 focus ST gearbox bearing went. And even then they couldn't toe me. Because it was too slammed to get the thing they use round the wheel. And I had no toe eye to get it towed. So instead I had to pay for low loader to get it to my mechanic.
One week ago our I-Pace broke down in a Costa car park. It just died and had 150 miles range left at the time. Nothing would work. Couldn’t even lock the doors. The AA came after 2 hours and said you need a truck. 8, yes 8 hours later at 2am the truck arrived to collect the car and bring my wife home. 4 days later they took it to Jaguar who replaced the 12V battery. Job done! Why did the AA not do that on their first visit?????
@@darrellbaldwin6226 My knowledge of car repairs is extremely limited. But if door locks and control electrics don't work, I would guess 12 volt battery.
Yes the tyres is true. On my 2nd front pair now with 18745. Did a 95 mile trip yesterday and it was a nightmare to find a fast charger. We found one at a large Tesco and luckily it was 50p per KW. Now many are over 70p my calculations told me if I had to use the expensive one then I'd been better off taking my diesel. And I would have had less stress to be honest. I still live my ev just no range ok round town.
@@mikebreen2890 Mike I do live in-between mid and North Wales . We also took a long trip to Hexham, wife stated we will never do a long trip in EV again her words not mine . We do have the so claimed 239 mile range nissan. 9 hours total drive to and back home. 5 hours 40 minutes total stops. Dual chargers shocked me they share between 2 cars. Mike the reality is and my advise to the average person not the retired banker who has lots of spare cash and that is to wait 10 years. Even the new nio and byd comming with 91 kk w battery's is fantastic with ranges like 400 miles still need bigger better fast chargers. We as a working family are now looking for a second car like a Passat diesel for our longer journeys. Our electric nissan is assume and free to use in the summer connected to our solar so advantages for this.
@@mikebreen2890 very well put Mike. We do more than 20 miles per day buddy. EVs with ranges of 273 miles are more suited like you said local trips. My ev is excellent for our short journeys. Anything longer after our experiences will now be the trusted diesel with its 470 range. Fill up less than 10 minutes. Round town short journeys recommended are EVs. And I love mine
@@mikebreen2890 mike I am an EV charger installer, I have EV qualifications I install renewable energy and owned EVs for many years now. I most certainly know how to use one and to its most effectiveness possible. I even now can access my chademo port to run my home using my 62kw battery. Making the most of an EV in my life is very important. My advise to anyone thinking of buying an EV is to really think hard about how you intend to use it. Locally it's a no brainer and if you have 8kw PV system you will use your EV free for at least 8 months a year . If you plan to use it for long journeys then think very hard. Remember people we did a family weekend away Google maps to our hotel up north was 4.5 hour journey. Return to midwales was the same. For this weekends journey we added 5 hours 40 minutes using fast chargers . We had to share a duel feed charger, the Tesla driver was not impressed. Our last stop we meet with an Argentine couple who were returning to Heathrow airport to catch a flight . They hire a pulsar and they had to charge it but in reality they were not going to make there flight. We also met an family in a VW id4 lovely car he was struggling to get to London to his son's wedding. His words not mine to anyone who is thinking of buying an EV was wait 10 years. Sorry I don't have any technical graphs to share or technical quotes it's just real life experience I am quoting.
@@Brian-om2hh I bet an ICE car doesn't take 22,000 litres of water to put out. I used to work as a bus driver, and we did have a bus catch fire. It took one fire engine to put the fire out, that is only 1,800 litres. A bus is also a damn sight bigger than a car. So a bus fire can be put out using 20,000 litres less of water.
There have been 2 (yes, 2!) Tesla fires in the UK in 12 years (and pretty good numbers for just about every other EV manufacturers, but those are harder to check in the data). Thousands of ICE fires *every single year*. And the USA data stacks up as many many times more likely that ICE catches fire. And the impact of 4839 gallons of fuel (22k litres) - or enough to move a vehicle (at a generous 40mpg average) just 193k miles - is way bigger than 22k litres of water. And that before you consider that to get 4839 gallons of fuel into vehicles you have wasted 806 gallons in the extraction, refinement, and distributionn of the fuel in the first place. And then there is the people who died getting that fuel to the pump (but we are all pretty good at ignoring those) - last time I checked getting 22k gallons of water to an EV fire doesn't see anyone dying or having to clean up many tens of square miles of ocean ... or putting it out (again, with water, I admit) when the ocean is boiling. (Sanchi, 2018, Ireland 2022, and countless other examples) So unless EVs are very many times MORE likely to catch fire then this is an irrelevance. Except, of course, as demonstrated in the independently recorded data EVs are many multiples (or even an order of magnitude) LESS likely to catch fire ... and improving all the time! Please check the facts bebfore you take anecdote as a reason to decide your future choices.
@@aidanapword AutoinsuranceAZ figures, out of 100,000 cars of each type sold, petrol fires 1530, EV fires 25. Thought I'd help you with the figure there. ;)
The AA emergency charge solution is not a generator. Those patrol vehicles suitably equipped have a bank of lithium batteries that are kept topped up from the vehicle. The batteries can then provide either a 16A or 32A charge to the stranded vehicle.
Seems crazy though. Others have said that AA will partially charge the EV for free whereas they charge a fee for giving 10 litres of petrol to a stranded motorist. It seems complete lunacy that we don't have a network of working chargers yet we are able to install battery banks in AA vans that will give a boost for free.
hi, I'm in recovery; from working in the recovery industry :) Seriously though. I have only recovered a few EVs and most of them were very new. One brand new Tesla being taken back to Tesla simply because it did not accept charge. On the subject of the two main reasons for breakdowns. Totally agree, jump starts and tyre changes were the majority of jobs. However, you say EVs don't come with a spare tyre. This is standard for all new cars (as far as I know) for over ten years in some cases. The 'repair (foam) kits are absolutely useless, and besides, by the time someone realises they have a flat, the tyre is often so damaged on the side walls, if it could be inflated, it's a disaster (blowout) waiting to happen.
U forgot, if your car have "foam" repair kit you should replace it every 3 years (in VAG group) also TPMS should be mandatory if u wanna sell cars with foam kit.
Death in extraction and refinement of fuel oil. Death in distribution of fuel oil. Thermodynamics. Nitrous Oxide. CO2. The proclivities of big oil companies, cartels, oligopoly, general economic abuse, and in extreme cases wars. Ah yes, I almost forgot: thermodynamics. Inconvenience and waste, and 1000s of fuel oil container trucks on our roads (ah yes ... Death here too). Dangerous fuel stations dispensing flammable liquids that sometimes blow up and kill people loving nearby. Thermodynamics. Relatively unsafe vehicles on the road and their clunky lumpy lumps of metal protruding into every cabin, other car, and pedestrian they can. Oh and fuel oil is getting easier and easier to source and extract all the time .... oops... no ... I got that one the wrong way round. And 1 last one: Thermodynamics. And thats just the start.
the celebrity cheap shots are the best - the guaranteed audience is enormous. And so nice to see my massive scepticism about EVs coming so true
Oh I know I feel bad because the first part of this video is such lazy RUclips content but the AA bit is actually interesting. I love how I really didn't find it funny when I read it at home, and when doing it on camera the generator thing just killed me.
EVs emperors new clothing 😏
Except all this celeb balderdash is not coming true.
Even someone as sensationalist as Matt Watson and team has driven dozens of EVs to the very last energy and the experience of such drivers is well documented ... didn't need to ask AA for that.
You are looking at (usually) 10 to 15 miles of usable range from the car ... sometimes at lower power ... at less than (reported) 0% battery.
EV manufacturers are not idiots.
Contrast this with the experience of running out of fuel on the motorway in an ICE cat where it stops dead in whatever lane it is in. In seconds.
Such a failure of the power tain in an ICE car is way more disruptive and way more dangerous to other road users.
My advice is don't get one. We got one through work, it's a piece of utter junk. Build quality, and range.
Please, don't follow our steps. Internal combustion are 100x better.
@@blueband8114 Build quality, maybe. Range - no ... the range on my car is 200 miles every single day for 30 seconds *of my time* charging it up - ICE doesn't have a hope in heck of that. As regards "100x" better ... well, if that were true then the likes of Top Gear, 5th Gear, and endless other commentators globally would be having a field day (and sales would suck - which they don't).
And 100x better because they are quicker? No. Safer? No. Have greater function? No. Faster (in any materially relevant sense for the majority of use cases)? No. And they are not 100x times cheaper (if at all). Or more convenient (and for those with a driveway ICE is way *less* convenient).
So ... where do you get your "100x" from?
Ah yes, sorry - I forgot - you like having to service it every single year. That makes them 100x times gbetter. Yes ... definitely .. ah nmo .. wait. It doesn't either.
The AA man turns up with a diesel generator 😂😂😂😂😂
Wondered what they did on arrival. Guess we still need fossil fuels!
Did you see the charging stations at Glastonbury festival last year? Fleets of diesel generators for the "green" EVs 🤣
@@terminal-velocity111 Al Gore at Davos said fossil fuels are boiling the oceans!
Must be true then.
That will save cooking the fish! 😊
Al fuels his private jet on virtue tho, so all good there.
Does your hazard lights still work?
@@BMike66 They will because they run off the 12V battery, which is charged by the high voltage traction battery.
A friend is a RAC man, he says he has to collect alot of EV cars purely because they get stuck at broken chargers and don't have the range to get to the next one
But that isn't an EV failing. It is simply a reflection of where we currently are with charging infrastructure. How easy and straightforward do you suppose it was to get petrol just 10 years or so after the motor car first appeared. The petrol station infrastructure wasn't exactly brilliant then either. Everything starts somewhere. This is where we are 10 years in.
@@Brian-om2hh But where will we be in 6 years and 10 months time Brian, because then all new cars will have to be EV's. Will the infrastructure be in place by then ?, and will it be reliable, or will we all be saying that our EV's are great, but we can't charge them, but that's ok. By the way in the early day's of the motor car, petrol engines weren't mandated hy the government of the day, so your comparison is ludicrous, because anyone who bought a car in those days knew that they were early adopter's, and knew what they were getting into voluntarily.
@@Brian-om2hh regardless of whether the vehicle failed or the infrastructure for the ev, you are still not going anywhere.
@@paulhillman400 Your problem there is the government, not the technology. The necessary infrastructure has been rolled out in Norway over approx that timescale, and we have 1.5x the land area of the UK and 1/12th the population. in 2016 we had 500 "fast" chargers (all 50kW or less), now we have 5600 (50-300kW). I think we've stopped bothering to count the slow chargers, cos they are everywhere. This was done with appropriate incentives to the network installers alongside a rapid (and incentivised) increase in EV sales to use them. I agree that with the current government this won't happen in the UK though.
I agree that the comparison with the horse to car transition is stupid. It annoys me every time i see it cos it is flawed in almost every way.
@@15bit62 I think you will find the basic problem is running out of charge in the UK being an obvious disincentive to potential EV purchases here! Yes you are lucky to live in Norway which is leading the world in terms of percentages of EV's etc. This is the reason you can be so smug living in Norway:
What is the energy production mix in Norway?
The vast majority of electricity produced in Norway comes from hydro power. In 2021, hydro accounted for 91.5 percent of electricity output in the Nordic country.
Wind power contributed another 7.5 percent to Norway's electricity mix.15 Dec 2022
Most countries simply lack the geographical attributes to even dream of that much hydro power! If we were discussing hot springs and geothermal power, then you would be at the back of the class looking at Iceland with envy! It's purely luck that Norway has the terrain to enable such things!
Interesting to hear that fairly recent 2nd hand EVs are not selling at auction when old fashioned vehicles are commanding top prices
It will also be interesting to hear how sales of these "old fashioned" vehicles do once we see mass ULEZ charging schemes almost everywhere...... These could easily add a further £30 to £80+ per week onto the running cost of an ICE vehicle.
@@mikebreen2890Then go to a car auction.
@@Brian-om2hh Most petrol car from around 2003 onwards qualify for ULEZ it’s only the old diesels that don’t. So most will be just fine!
@@mikebreen2890 Flapping lips is not enough?
When vehicles over a certain age are exempt from ULEZ and are much cheaper to buy and maintain than EVs and have a virtually guaranteed mileage range It is a no brainer especially when the depreciation is negligible compared to that of the EVs! plus insurance is greatly reduce too!
A diesel van with a diesel generator called out to help a stranded EV is counter-production at its finest.
Why?
@@bowsh1238 Aren't EV's meant to be green and save the planet? How is it 'Saving the planet' when fossil fuels have to be used to bail out that motorist?
(Using electricity ain't that green either when the wind stops blowing and the sun ain't shining!)
@@rachelsmith8023 I didn't buy a EV because it was green, most others I know didn't. I bought it because it's cheaper to run, much faster, quieter and just more convenient. So yeah if someone drives a diesel van to help someone that breakdown up I don't particularly care
@@bowsh1238 Put your head back in the sand.
@@rosewhite--- maybe try driving one and you'll know ICE cars are just old fashioned to drive in comparison 😉
My stepdad bought a VW EV and in winter it said 90 miles from full to empty when he turned the heater on. I was smiling cause my little Fiesta will still do 300 miles with the heater on.
Frankly I don't believe you. Having the heating on in my EV costs me around 5% range over a 150+ mile journey.
@@Brian-om2hh why don’t you believe him? He never stated the range of the car without the heater running.
@@gerrym4377 True and what a pity that the ICE is so inefficient that the boast here is to find some use for otherwise wasted energy.
How about if you travel by night and need to use your lights. Will that drain battery?
My diesel van, even when its loaded for a days work will do 800 miles without an issue
The tyre issue reminded me of reviews when they comment on the torque from standing. This feature is bound to stress the tyres I expect. The other issue is life of the car dictated by the life of the batteries. When the batteries wear out after a life of becoming increasingly less efficient. Decreasing power and range. The price of replacement rendering the whole vehicle a write off. How is that good for the environment when much of environmental cost is making it in the first place.
What absolute cobblers! Once the battery pack begins to lose efficiency - usually after 10+ years - it can be refurbished. This costs just a fraction of the price of replacing the whole battery pack. Try watching the RUclips video of the UK owner of a 10 year old Nissan Leaf. He took his car to Cleveleys Electric Vehicles in Gloucestershire, for a battery pack refurbishment. The work took 4 hours, and the cost was £500. Cleveleys posted a video of the refurb on RUclips, specifically so that those uninformed individuals, who felt that you *had* to buy a new battery costing thousands, could end up better informed.....
Heard that some breakdown companies don’t come out for running out of fuel , so why would they come out for ev battery negligence ?
Because global warming rules init!
Too true! And while the AA/RAC are attending a flat EV, there’s some other poor sod stuck in a live lane on a “smart motorway” waiting to get wiped out by some twat on their mobile phone.
Because its in the membership agreement.
Because it often isn’t negligence. It’s just bad fortune. I had a situation where I got to a road closure in SW Scotland due to flooding. The diversion was 100 miles and I only had 23% charge. I found my chargers, but it could have been much worse. Chargers often don’t work, or are fully occupied. No one ever sets out on a journey knowing that they won’t complete it. If I didn’t have enough charge it wouldn’t be in the middle of the road, but more likely it would be at a broken charger knowing I couldn’t make it to the next charger.
What?
What breakdown companies?
I only hired a pure EV once, in Madrid. It didn't do the range it thought it would, and I drove it slowly for ages in 'tortoise mode' before the bastard thing expired completely. I walked the last few Km back to the hire place. So, 100% of my own experience was 'Main battery exhausted'- the range anxiety before it did so was quite stressing too.
Bloody hell mate that's shite
Love the "bastard" you are a northerner 🤣👍
EVs are not for everyone, You prove it, EVs are not for stupid people.
No car suits Stupid people . Careful crossing the road
oh that was funny ! bastard thing expired completely! whats a tortoise mode? you get a turtle to pull you ?
I hope and pray this EV madness slows right down if not stops altogether !!!
You may as well hope and pray that oil never runs dry, because one day it will......
they will for a bimbo celebrity.
Insurance companies might be the ones to kill off EV's, because of the risk to cost analysis.
Like the oil used to make EVs?@@Brian-om2hh
@@Brian-om2hhnope, not in our lifetime mate
here in Australia a tow truck driver told me 90 percent of the breakdowns that he recovers in modern cars are always the computer and electronics if not in accident , he always says to buy an old car easy to repair and rarely breaks down
One reason I drive an old car. 🤣
I couldn't agree with you more. Best car I ever had in terms of reliability was a 1967 for Anglia, and as soon as I can find one that hasn't rusted away, I'm buying it.
One issue with a lot of new cars is in an effort to save weight they do not have a spare tire. Most of the newer cars I tow are either no starts or just quit while driving. Last weekend I was dispatched to tow a brand new Chevrolet Silverado he had bought the day before. It was extremely cold and I spent 15 minutes trying to figure out how to get it in neutral as they now have an electronic shifter. There is no override. There is "car wash mode" where it can be left in neutral not running but has to be running to initially be put in neutral. I was about to drag it on my truck in park and it finally started. Some manufacturers put ways to disengage park when it's dead, but lots do not. It's quite infuriating
He's indeed right. My 2005 Toyota Rav4 is at 181k, still no issues with it & it only needs maintenance once yearly.
My 2011 Taurus works perfectly. It will be my last car.
It's good to know that in my petrol car, none of my cars systems switch off when the fuel gauge shows low
I bet it doesn't slow down at all when the tank gets less than 1/4 full either...
@@mikebreen2890 As a driver of one - you are mistaken. On the other hand, mine is actually efficient and uses the full battery capacity. It's not limited either in the sense that all of the commercial EVs are. Batteries drain, and as the full voltage drops off, so too does your top speed, torque, power, everything is actually waning. Fancy capacitor and transistor banks are used to give you the impression that it isn't, but that's a great indication that you were never using 100 percent of the available power at any time. Nor does mine simply stop when the charge reaches 70 percent, I can still squeeze several good miles out of them at a reduced speed. A consumer EV actually cuts you off dead on the road when it could limp you home. Anyway I'd suggest electrical engineering and logic classes, between the two you'd learn some things you don't know.
"A consumer EV actually cuts you off dead on the road when it could limp you home". ruclips.net/video/3DWD1gZR1BY/видео.html
I have every confidence that EV's won't end up being used en masse as their limitations will continue to come to light
I have every confidence EV's *will* end up being used en masse, as new ICE cars will no longer be obtainable after the end of 2029. ICE cars will have their limitations when oil runs dry.
I don't think they care about that actually, as long as they don't get stuck. I fear they will double down. Reason EVs don't work is because we haven't spent enough!
Reason they won’t be used en masse is at he moment they’re paying me not to run my washing machine to save electricity. How are we going to charge them ?
I think the idea is to get people out of their ice cars, and if no viable alternative that will be their goal achieved
Come visit Norway - i think you will be disappointed. Last year 79% of new cars were full EV, and we're now up to 21% of all registered passenger cars on the road being full EV. There might be limitations, but widespread electrification is far from impossible.
Long live my diesel van!
Same here Richard !
The fabulous elopement chariot for you and the lovely Julia 🚙⛽👩🦲👰🏻♀️💐🥳🎉🎊🥂🍾
Not that I'm dropping hints or making suggestions... far be it from me...!!!
I'm 245000 miles and hoping for 250000 more
please apologise to all the people who now have cancer due to diesel engines.
@@robgraham9234 please apologise to all the people who have lost braincells reading your uninformed nonsense.Fool.
Just a quick EV related story in California USA last summer after going green and with the maximum EV cars on the road owners came home to plug in there cars and the air conditioning the city had a power outage hospitals needed to put emergence generators on , in England the power grid has a problem when every one puts the kettle on during the break of coronation street.
Kettles are not a problem for the UK grid, The grid is designed to cover this.
Yes "The Grid" runs flat out all the time..just in case everyone puts the kettle on at the same time...Think about that..!
That’s a myth, I live in the U.K. and our electricity never goes off. Ever.
That used to happen all the time when we only had three tv channels. Everyone was making a cup of tea in the as breaks. Power surges always happened then. Nowadays we all do stuff all over the place.
Makes you wonder where all that electric trickery come from..Eh Catweazle?
The start of your video gave me flashbacks. I was driving a 4x4 when everything seized up, all the lights came on the dash and oil pouring out onto the road... Phoned the AA for help getting my vehicle home, explained everything etc and said I need a flatbed or similar, and their response was "We'll send an engineer out to see if he can fix it". Engineer comes out several hours later and looks at it and says "there's nothing I can do I think you've thrown a rod. I'll have to get a flatbed to drive you home." In my head I'm screaming I Fu#king said this over the phone!
Absolutely, when I phone them I am always as specific as I can be and tell them exactly what I need, and even then it doesn't always work out!
@@GeoffBuysCars I'm the same as yourself, give all the available information up front. That's what really annoyed me. I trained as a mechanic, I knew what I was saying. If it wasn't 2am I would of called my work colleague to get the beast from yard to get me home. Would of saved me 4 hours of my life 😭 Brilliant video, as normal sir 👍
@@GeoffBuysCars I worked for the AA as a patrol & recovery driver some years ago as a stop-gap job after returning from an overseas contract. As a qualified vehicle technician, I was surprised to find out that I was one of just a handful. You could be a butcher, baker, candlestick maker & after two weeks training, you were let loose to go and ply your trade, or lack of it. Also, it was normal practice (& seems to still be the case) where they will always send a man in a van first. One job I remember attending was where the propshaft (rear-wheel drive) had come adrift at one end, thrashed around destroying various vital components on the underside of the car. The driver told me that he had explained this to the call centre over the phone, then I turned up, in a van. Life's a bitch, then you die🙃
Been there done that with a failed clutch on a hire car. In the end I drove it 14 miles, through Wolverhampton and to my parents in Shropshire... Clutchless. Then phoned AA to give them the new location of the car to pick up.
@@djtaylorutube 🤣🤣🤣
Thank you for making me chuckle Geoff, what an absolute shambles this EV nonsense is proving to be, stay strong everyone and fight for our freedom to travel by which ever method we so choose, unhindered by despot local councils, withholding our council tax will totally stymie them also…..
Try riding a horse down the M6 and see what happens. They banned it, but it was so long ago, we didn't notice.
What have local councils got to do with this? Try withholding your Council Tax and see how quickly you will end up in court, then let your possessions be taken by the bailiffs.
i will 2 diesel cars a petrol and motor bike..see me out..
@@TheLongonot62 the bbc said that regarding the tv licence now fast forward a few years there’s millions that don’t pay this silly licence tax ( including me ) , I’m afraid the council tax will probably be the next one the way the country’s going, just saying 😎
The first EV was around 1900. Quickly they didn't work. Now over 100 years there is pressure to go electric. If EVs were better than ICE vehicles manufacturers would of been building them back then. No it's a scam made up by politicians jumping on the climate change theory. To stop this vote anybody who says it's baloney
In my local garage the other day, I asked if they were going to upgrain their ramps to cope with EVs. They said no because we can not get insurance to have them on the premises.
When I go out to failed EVs I generally find that the problem is the nut behind the wheel 🤣😅
That will be the same nut that bought it.
yes, they bought one.
That’s believable. The cars aren’t the problem, it’s the owners.
The knobs are the most common problem with EVs, according to a guy i know who works for green flag, unfortunately the knob isn't covered on the breakdown policy, second time the knob fails he will incur a fee.
So same as ICE cars really?
Right, I had a year ago SClass failure in Glasgow - snapped axle shaft where AA (in 45min) send a small Iveco flatbed to diagnose and take the car to Mercedes service. The flatbed was to small to lift the 2.2t SClass, so I waited another 8h, yes eight hours, for a lorry flatbed. So can only imagine problems with 2.5 tone or heavier EV cars stranded on the road 🥴
Not an EV problem AA not moving fast enough with the times , and by the way if cars were limited by size weight most of the chelsea tractors would be off the road THANK GOD
The majority of EVs sold in Britain today are significantly lighter than an S Class and a lot smaller.
And the 2.2t bmws and merc EVs will continue to be shrink as a proportion of EVs on the road.
My Kia EV weighs less than a Range Rover or most other SUV's or 4 x4's. A Tesla Model 3SR weighs less than a BMW 5 Series estate car. Try again.....
"A dance program to distract you from what's really going on in the world around you" 😅 brilliant comment, also completely true 👍
Electric cars ARE the future... a future in which nobody living in a city owns a car. When those future people use an app to schedule a ride, the car that picks them up will indeed be an EV, it'll just be owned by some mega corporation. So congrats to all you EV enthusiasts: your amazing future awaits.
Indeed
You watch far too much TV like The Jetsons 🤣 and because of that you talk out of your arse.
I hope you are being sarcastic.
WORLD WIDE REVOLUTIONS WILL HAPPEN BEFORE THEM
They love their servitude, unfortunately.
I tried a eV truck while working for a well known distribution centre it had a 200 mile range went 40 miles on it with a 27ton load on the trailer and it went from 100% to 0 in about 45 mins and had to be towed back to my depot. I hired an audi eV for the day and out of curiosity I had it weighed and was shocked at the weight it weighed 2.5 tons and the range was saying 300 mile but it was half that.
Yes,but net zero is about 7 years away,so where is all this energy coming from,and at what cost and hassles,cause when the sun don't shine and the wind don't blow,mostly at night,and everybody plugs in everything for heating,for cooking,media,their cars,and when the power goes off and trips your overload through the day and your fridge or freezer doesn't restart,this is total lunacy,and then there are the flats,condos,high rise hotels where the wiring is not designed for charging electric cars,I say the sooner we see the lunacy of this agenda ,the sooner we get back to practicality and what works,and has done for 100 years,there is no climate emergency,more a pseudo religion by fanatics and billionaires,the WEF,the WHO,NATO,the UN,and when all else fails,they take you to war,and I think nuclear weapons will definitely impact the climate,just saying!
I know where the charger power comes from. 80% likely to be generated at a conventional power station burning gas or oil.
EVs use a lot of fossil fuel, particularly the posh high power ones.
Do not believe you.
Expand on why ?@@BioniqBob
We need more channels like this. Great report. I have been driving 54 years and called the AA out once for an electrical fault on a car I just bought for £185, other than that nothing in a million miles in 50+ countries. To be fair there is only one thing wrong with EVs..they are shite.
Which EV's have you owned, which you felt were shite? Is your opinion based on actual ownership experience, or is it just a knee jerk reaction, based on nothing?
@@Brian-om2hh I would rather lose a leg than go through the anxiety of driving an Ev. Where should I start, I am in Italy at present on a 10,000km trip how much time would I spend getting refuled? In the services there were 2 cars queuing and the summer is not even here and there are not tbat many idiot owners yet. At the same services there were 5 cars queuing for 65c LPG all fuelled up and gone in 5 minutes, with the option of petrol, these are smart people. CO2 is not killing the planet quite the contrary, listen to Dr. Patrick Moore founder of Greenpeace, rather than fools like Al Gore and child actors Greta Thunberg.
@@Brian-om2hhProbably the latter
I have never lost confidence in electric cars - I never had any to lose. Right from the start I said they would be a failure and they have been at every step. Even the manufacturers know it.People want to get from A to B without any inconvenience. They want to fill the boot with shopping from the supermarket, travel 4 or 500 miles to a holiday destination and then have the freedom to visit the seaside or NT properties or attend steam rallies etc. All this is easy if you can just spend 3 or 4 minutes filling up with petrol. But who wants to be forced to spend half your holiday waiting for charging and paying for overnight stays because of a 15 hour queue at the charging point. And then you have to sod about with "apps" on a phone and get faced with rip off charges too. At least you know how much petrol is. If you go electric, get a small van then you can install a diesel generator and run it throughout your journey and make a mockery of the whole thing. 😠
A curious thing - i have an EV and i have no problem doing all of the above (except filling up with petrol obviously). I drove from central Norway to central england in 3 days in July, via stockholm. More than 3000km in total, with no problems at all. Well one problem - eurotunnel was delayed 2.5 hours. Charging during the driving legs was as simple as driving up to one of many many fast charging stations and plugging the car in and waiting 25 mins (well actually going for a pee, buying a sandwich, walking the dog for 10 mins and ramming a sandwich down my throat cos the car had finished charging already). Charging in the evening involved the incredibly time-consuming task of parking the car next to the charger at the hotel and plugging it in. It might be that i am uniquely touched by god, but since i know plenty of EV owners who happily take their families from Norway to Swizerland, France, Spain, Germany etc. on vacation, i don't think i am special in any way.
Honestly, they aren't some sort of unusable garbage forced upon you by a bunch of hippy halfwits. EVs are totally usable everyday cars. All you have to do is dare to think slightly differently about how you use your car and treat "refuelling" as something that can be done whilst doing other things and not a specific act in itself. Mine even allows me to leave the dog inside for an hour or two with the aircon running and a clear message on the screen telling passersby what the cabin temperature is. Plus it gets to 140mph down the autobahn in no time at all.
A generator won't do you much good I'm afraid. You'd need a generator the size of a shed to get the current you'd usefully need to charge an EV. Electric car owner here..... And all newly installed chargers (at least those installed in the last 18 months or so) must have a contactless payment facility by law. so no apps needed.
@@Brian-om2hh they are still very much a backward step at the present moment.
Friend of mine has a Model S Tesla. He wasn’t confident enough to drive 100 odd miles to the coast for a weekend break, and get back home. So he didn’t go. Paid north of £45k for this second hand as well. Currently lack of infrastructure, and way too expensive compared to diesel / petrol.
@@15bit62 Wow ! what a story ! 😂
@@markstarmer3677 Cool story but I call bullshit.
Had no problem doing "just" 176 miles each way last weekend.
Tesla has the best route planning software that incorporates superchargers effortlessly.
Any Tesla driver knows this and can easily see that 100 miles is simply not a problem. The car would plan in charging stops and can see live availability of charger stalls, along with real time consumption data to show plan versus actual. It's all rather trivial to be honest.
Maybe your neighbour is absolutely clueless but that's not a fault of the car which is completely capable of what was asked.
Way cheaper than petrol or diesel too. Sorry to spoil the narrative.
Hey Geoff,
Since a few days I have been watching your videos on EV vehicles and I absolutely love them! Since 3,5 years I am the proud owner of a Mazda 323 from 1999, and I really love this car. My ambition is to drive it until it breaks, so far I never had any major problems besides some minor repairs. It is cheap, it is reliable and it is definitely more eco-concious then buying an electric car.
Also I am repairing more and more my own car together with a friend, which is a wonderful experience. Let's hope I can continue driving this car the next 10, or maybe, 15 years. In my opinion I think legislation will kill this car before mechanical failure will.
Love from the Netherlands!
If you counted how many vehicles go through a filling station and how long it takes, imagine the size of parking area required to accomodare all these evs sat waitng to charge. Plus you can guarantee that the price of charging will increase because a percentage will be added for as a parking charge.
That's not how it works. Imagine if everyone had a petrol pump at their home...
@@djtaylorutube 50% of UK car owners dont have a driveway or designated parking place.
They park in the street... With a bit of luck they even manage to park in the same street as the one the live in... Tho mostly they cant rely on that
@@djtaylorutube No it's much much worse, because a 5 minute 'recharge' of a diesel car gives 600+ miles of range and a half hour EV recharge gives a third of that range at best so that means that 90 times more chargers are needed than the current amount of diesel pumps, just to match the status quo with IC cars. Good luck recharging at home when you live on the eleventh floor of an apartment block or similar.
Most charging will be at home in a driveway, at residential charging posts and lampposts on street or in charge point equipped residential car parks. You won't have droves of people visiting a charging station every time they need a charge as people will only do that when on a journey longer than the range of their vehicle. Your car will charge when you are not using it, at home or at destination, like shopping centre or other activity.
@@sahhull I understand that, more work is required there without a doubt. Other countries are getting there, I don't hold so much hope for the UK which is only run by criminally corrupt, self serving, short term, no strategy individuals.
China, with all its built up population, is a decade ahead of anyone.
I was talking to a Tesla owner the other day and he was telling me the car ripped through tires because of the weight and the torque, he also said he suffers from range anxiety 😱😱
Then he seriously needs to learn how to interpret the higher amount of information available to him. Either that, or he's not too smart.
It's literally all there, laid out for him.
@@djtaylorutube Most people that drive... Drive the thing from A to B. They dont faff with the electronic info crud after the novelty value wears off.
Its the same with ICE cars that have electronic crud in them.
@@sahhull My wife can manage it, I'm pretty sure she's in the category of "most people". I'll go and check...
@@djtaylorutube why is it when someone is just telling it as it is about the experience he is having with his EV that people like you have to suggest that he lacks intelligence, actually he is an engineer and intelligent enough to be able to afford one of these high priced vehicles 🤔🤔
AAAaaahhh, the converted greenie. Lovely to see him suffer just like the people he deprive of electricity in Africa, and the child labor used to mine the cobalt in Congo due to his suffragenicity for the "environment".
I ceased being an AA member in 1985 after they botched my change of address notice. I have never needed them (because I maintain my own vehicles) and am wealthier by 38 years of subscriptions.
It would be interesting to know the "mental breakdown" statistics due to range & will the next charger work anxiety😜
It appears to affect ICE drivers more than EV drivers for some inexplicable reason. I have never felt range anxiety, and my EV only does 110 miles on a charge. But I know it’s limitations. I haven’t heard from some geezer on YT.
@@oneeyedgirl617 Lucky girl, but with only one eye, should you be driving at all?.....
@@barriewilliams4526 luck not involved. Done my research. Not on here, obviously.
@@oneeyedgirl617 Of course you have. Bye, oh & good luck x
@@oneeyedgirl617 depends on how you use your car. In Australia, most people rarely drive long distances, for them an EV might be perfect. But some people do drive long distances. I regularly drive 800+km to visit family. My diesel car does this easily on a tank. I have family who live much further away too. 1200 km, and I can still drive that far without having to refuel.
For me, an EV simply wouldn't work. I'd be having to do overnight stops on these trips.
Great video Geoff EV is not the future. I work in the trade and deal on a daily basis with EV breakdowns and a big DIESEL truck recovering them 😂. I will stick with my 2002 Volvo S60 D5 never lets me down.
I think you are correct Geoff! There is a place for EVs but this EV-mania needs to be addressed with actual user experience data that you supply. Replacing one set of problems with an even larger set of problems in such a short time is a stupid and reckless way to go. Thanks for helping to prove that the entire world has not gone MAD.
Nice to see someone acknowledge there is a place for EVs. I have been driving an EV for 7 years and it suits my needs. I don’t tell everyone
They should change as they are not the best solution for everyone. I don’t do many long journeys so rarely need to use public chargers. Typical range on my car is 280 miles but have managed over 300. A lot is down to the way you drive and the type of journeys. I don’t go through tyres any quicker than before I went electric, because I am not flooring it and using all that torque. People need to consider what they are buying and understand to pros and cons of the vehicles before making a decision. Do we need to ban petrol and diesel, NO.
Although now retired, I've worked in the motor industry all my life. I didn't know an ev had another battery. Thanks for that Geoff, every day's a learning day. 👍
The last time I phoned the AA was back in 1998 - I had a Ford Fiesta Mk 1 Ghia at the time, and I knew that the alternator was failing, so I drove it around with every electrical system on and then parked up at home (I had taken out the Home Start option on my membership). Sure enough, the car wouldn't start so I called them out and they came out and replaced the alternator for the princely sum of £37! Much cheaper and faster than taking the car to a garage.
Cheat !! 😂
You Kent.
Did exactly the same thing with a diesel Passat in the 80’s!
you won't get your alternator replaced by breakdown companies these days, mind you with the book time on some cars being 6hours plus who can blame them.
I'm a taxi driver with an MG5 EV with now 51k miles done over the last 2 years more than happy so far these issues are over exaggerated, I won't be going back
I did hear a story of a new Hyundai that had it’s hard drive corrupted when it was plugged in for a charge it had to be recovered to a main dealer who fixed it eventually but couldn’t guarantee it wouldn’t happen again eventually the car was returned as not fit for purpose. The main batteries only drive the car the 12v battery you refer to power everything else including accessing the car when it’s low or dead you out in the cold some manufacturers have big problems on some models with these batteries constantly draining.
There was a Tesla on the side of the road in Coventry last week, hooked up to a Fiat 500 over two days, I thought it was charging the Fiat battery - two days later off went the Tesla on the back of a low loader...I now assume the Fiat was trying to charge the 12v in the Tesla...
It's how recovery services work... I called the RAC and told them my serpentine belt had snapped... Waited 2 hours sat in car -4 outside. They turned up in a van diagnosed snapped belt and they would need a recovery truck.... 2 hours longer I had to wait. Yet if they took note of what I said at 3:30 in the afternoon the van guy said he could have got one and fixed it at the side of the road. But they didn't tell him the fault.
Just a comment based on the very end of your video Geoff - I had a similar nightmare with the AA last year, broke down on the side of a dual carriageway at 6.40am (weekday) and it took the AA 6hrs to remove me from the dangerous position as they wouldn’t send their own patrols due to the position being dangerous. They employed another recovery company to do the same. Once in a safe place, it took them another 8.5hrs to get me back home. I will never spend another penny with the AA. I doubt the RAC are much better - following your comment 🙉
Geoff your a top bloke and I knew this when you said that celebrity TV shows are trying to make the general public forget what’s actually happening in the world.. 😅
On the subject of EV chargers. In Plymouth we had several on street chargers that have now been switched off. The trial period came to an end and the company that owns them says that they will be upgraded and recommissioned when they have agreed with Plymouth City Council a new deal. So currently we have about 20 charging points less. A great inconvenience to local residents who live in apartments etc.
The 'NEW DEAL' meaning much higher costs and profites for the company?
A local grocery store in a town of 13k has had an EV charging station (several charging units) for going on a year. Never once seen it being used. No doubt our tax dollars paid to build it.
We haven’t got much more electricity supply demand as it is now what happens when 20 million people plug in at night, it’s not happening.
What would happen if 20 million people filled up with petrol all at once? Petrol would run out, that's what. Not everyone needs to fill up every day. This is the bit you non EV owners don't get. I only need to charge my EV every 8 to 9 days. And don't forget that if 20 million people had electric cars, there would be *much* more spare capacity in the grid, because the UK's oil refineries would no longer be producing as much petrol and diesel. If 20 million people have EV's, they're not still going to keep buying petrol and diesel are they? So there would be no need to produce as much......
We currently pay Scottish windfarms around half a billion pounds to NOT produce at night. It's not the problem you think it is.
The demand on the grid in 2022 was less than in 2016. Fact. Charging an EV at home uses 7kW. What else uses 7kW? oh yes, an electric shower. So does anyone worry that 20 million people are going to have a shower at the same time? No.
@@Smith_Tech_70 What if they all have a five hour shower ? would that affect the calculation ?
@@Fanakapan222 The reality is, everyone plugs in at different times, thus spreading out the peak in consumption. If we all plugged in at exactly 6pm, it might be a problem. But if I plug in at 6pm, and you plug in at 6:10pm, then the "spike" in the grid is evened out a bit. Eventually, with smart metres and smart chargers, the grid can automate charging times in order to suit it's requirements and demands, and ensuring that we all have a full charge by the morning. So instead of me having a 4 hour charge, the grid may decide to give me 4 x 1 hour charges spread over the night time for example. The end result for me is the same, but the grid has managed the load better.
Imagine sitting in a traffic standstill in an EV and just watching your battery drain like a mobile phone
Dont think you understand the concept of an EV if i was at standstill in my EV It would have to be a few days before i saw any difference .
Like watching your electric meter not moving when your not using any power at home you mean? I think we need to explain something to you, if you don't switch a light on, it doesn't use power. If an EV is standing still, even with someone in the driving seat, its using little to no power. I say little because they may want the radio on or something, but even air con will last a day or more. And sometimes they don't use power when moving forward either, like when going down hill or when braking. Hope this helps?
A little youtube watching or even sitting in an even for more than 100m will show you just exactly how wrong that "imagine" scenario is.
The levels if data on the energy used at all times in EV will make it obvious how that imaginary world is just silly.
@@eddiereed5025 Can you say the same when it is -10 degrees outside?
@@aidanapword @Steve Matthews @ Eddie Reed I sat in standstill traffic on the M6 in the middle of the night in my classic mini and after about 10 minutes of not moving the Tesla next to me was forced to turn off their lights and no doubt their heater. This was a couple of weeks ago during winter in the UK so don’t try and tell me that Tesla owners don’t experience squeaky bum time every time they get stopped unexpectedly and we all know that to get the most mileage they practically have to turn everything off. Face facts electric cars are dog poo.
My (major) tyre dealers told me that EV cars cannot/should not/must not be jacked up using a single jack. This can and has caused battery packs in the floor to flex and destroy themselves. As a solution they invested in a bespoke lifting system to life all 4 corners simultaneously and keep the car level when changing or repairing tyres...clearly not something that can be done at home or by the roadside. Have you encountered this issue Geoff ?
I have also been told this.
I’m in recovery and with the AA …
… I’m an alcoholic and I haven’t had a drink for 64 days 😂😂😂
I think in the race to get an EV on the market, manufacturers haven't fully thought out their designs. Telsa being a prime example. A certain ex top gear presenter had to charge up the 12v battery on his Tesla with a seperate charger after staying at home during lock down. Even though he'd left the HV charging cable plugged in through lock down. Very poor design.
Agreed, but I believe Tesla did an over wifi update of there software when this issue became apparent.
They had not expected the car to be unused for so long.
Do ICE car have similar issues when not run for a while?
3 years with my first EV, 45k miles. Never run out of charge (it tells me to charge with 30 miles range left) and still on first set of tyres. Took them to get front changed last week and they said no need still well legal
Well what make and model?
LOL ... the sheer number of bald faced lies regarding these lemons ... kind of reminds me of the CDC and viruses.
@@12alocin The Unicorn
Why did you take the car to get new tyres when the existing were "well legal"?
So here's the thing, we could be planting more trees, restoring our woods and forests, across the UK and Europe. Since basic science has shown us, plants take in carbon dioxide (CO2) during photosynthesis, planting more trees should reduce so-called CO2 levels, and we can keep our ICE cars.
But if you do that, the tiny Swedish elf puppet actress will flood the whole world with her tears…?👀🧐😎😜🙄🐑😁🙈
Peace
No, no, no, no, no. We don't need to plant trees. We just buy carbon credits.😉😉
When those trees die and decompose, what happens?
Your all falling for this climate change BS it's the elitists crafty way of making money ? And a great way to keep drivers in danger ,so then they can stop us gadding about , it's a form of control and people can't see the agenda !keep buying electric to help them to control you ,nothing wrong with this planet nothing lies !?
@@Richard482 I make furniture out of them, and burn the scrap. Simple.
I bought a 2015 Hyundai i10 in 2017. I love it. It has never let me down. Only had some minor advice notes, soon sorted at MOT. No big spend. Had to have something done to ABS in September. I will hang on to it as long as I can.
daughter's i10 sailed through mot needing nothing!
hyundai make nice cars.
@@rosewhite--- pleased your daughter is enjoying her car.
Me going 60 mile journey in winter by diesel -warm as toast and no worries.
(No african child labourers hurt in my oil drilling either)
You going 59 miles in winter by EV - Thick coat and woolly hat and range anxiety.
Cobalt, anyone !
As requested, I have an EV…. It’s a company car and as such it really is the only option due to the way BIK now works. Ive had it for three years and covered about 32k. As its a Tesla charging has never been an issue and in answer to your question Ive never once had to call for recovery. It’s on its second set of tyres. As a car it’s fine and is capable of 0-60 in just over 3 seconds though the novelty of this has lessened over time. I will definitely order another EV due to the BIK situation. I also own a petrol Z4 which I much prefer to drive 😂
My father is a recovery truck driver… a bit off topic I know but he says that if you want a really terrible car you should get a brand new BMW or a new Land-rover.
I am waiting to see what the authorities will do if a load of EV’s get stuck on a main motorway due to a flash snow storm and they all run out of juice. It’s not as though they can send a bowser of fuel out to get them moving!
An ev will be quite happy in a traffic jam for a good few days with the heating on. 😊
@@rob2738 massively depends on the car and if it has a heat pump or not
Just get a diesel generator on a trailer. Doesn't costs so much. Ideally, every EV should get one, for unlimited range!
Why might an EV run out of "juice" in a snow storm? An EV has a battery large enough to run a HOUSE for 3 or 4 days! Heating 2 cubic metres of space inside a car isn't going to cause any issues. An EV uses very little battery power when stationary. You people have some weird perceptions regarding electric cars.....
@@altern8tive let’s hope your never stupid enough to get caught in a flash snow storm as the UK is never equipped to deal with extremes of weather at the best of times and I got caught in a flash snow storm coming back at night which almost stopped me in my tracks driving a four wheel drive car - all be it a high powered impractical vehicle. The blizzard came out of nowhere and the road was under several inches of snow in minutes. It’s happened before on UK roads in the last decade or so and all the drivers were evacuated off the A38 at Kenford and I’m sure a lot of them expected they could deal with the conditions.
Helen should take responsibility for not having enough battery charge surely. Numpty.
Cold weather wouldn't have helped.
That's issue, in ICE when u car told u have 160miles that's mean if u park your car now, gets to -10°C u return to car and still can make 160miles.
U remember what level is in your tank. U can park for months (and if u have working 12V battery) return to car and start like nothing happened.
Roadside assistance stops for EVs must average several times those of ICEs. Of course we need to know actual figures.
Peterborough city council are increasing their charger costs to 70p per kWh, this is the equivalent of on excess of £3 per litre of fuel.
Thanks for the details about weight. It was something that hasn't been made clear previously. An EV being two to three times the weight of an ICE.
Two to three times the weight? Are you sure? Compare like cars, say the Tesla model 3 Vs BMW 4 series. Is the Tesla really that much heavier
Er Mark. My Kia eNiro weighs less than a Range Rover. A Tesla Model 3SR weighs less than a BMW 5 Series estate car. Do a bit of research before you post mate......
@@Brian-om2hh I don't think he wants facts to get in the way of a good story though 😂
@@stephenclutton 50% heavier, on average, than an equal size Ice car.
@@Brian-om2hh The Tesla has 23 cu feet of cargo volume (incl passengers) while the Estate car has nearly 70 cu feet of cargo volume.
Try to keep comparisons to like-capabilities ... and you will find that ICE blows away all electric competition.
Great video! I hope that you get some responses from recovery guys. Please do a follow up if you do.
I know a building firm had a electric fork truck , they said pretty good but they have to connect it to a diesel generator & it took 8-10 hours to charge it up for the next day's work . The thing is it takes more diesel to charge up in one night than they would use all week on a diesel fork truck , work that one out .
Sheer fcking madness.
Hydrocarbon fueled forklifts spew waste products that you don't want settling on products like fruit and vegetables or other sensitive things and they are very noisy compared to electrics.... just 2 reasons right there.
@bkeepr it's a building site not a fruit & veg shop & uses five times more diesel to charge it for the weeks work , that not only crazy it's stupid & very expensive.
Electric forklifts are more common than diesel ones - they are used indoors where exhaust fumes would be dangerous
I get the reason for using them in doors, I've used them myself but on a building site where they have no power supply (yet) to use it & then use 4-5 times as much diesel to charge it up is not only stupid but totally incompetent.
Fantastic video mate, well none and you hit the nail on the head on many points on EVs.
I am still amazed how easily people fall for the green policies of the politicians.
Electric cars are just very expensive golf buggies, nothing more.
Just like with any other device with lithium based batteries, their performance drops in very cold and hot conditions especially cold hence the range.
I totally agree with you on the weight of these are generally heavier than a normal 4WD eg my defender is 2.1T most EVs are heavier than that.
Battery technology is not the right power source for cars at the moment, far too heavy and inefficient.
Another problem with ev's is the screen. If that fails, you lose ALL functionality.
So now you just need to produce the stats on all those screen failures to compete the credibility...
Incidentally, the car still drives, the voice control still works, indicators work, horn works, lights work etc.
In fact you can soft reboot the screen while driving.
@@djtaylorutube Tesla screens leak the lcd fluid and the screen fails.
Tesla know about the issue yet they just put another screen in... Not sure what happens when the warrenty expires.
The same with the door handles
@@sahhull I'll put a drip tray underneath to catch the liquid. Thanks for the tip 😉
Another misinformed loony
No you don't
It's the fire risk that scares me! Getting yanked out without a neck brace or backboard in an accident, as the rescue service know the high risk in electric shocks or rapid ignition
I would not worry about that as the fumes will get you before any fire
Best you dont drive a petrol car either then, I was told that is flammable
Fire risk in an ICE car is many multiples (possibly) an order of magnitude higher (measured per mile driven). This is well documented, data and logic supported, fact.
And cabin or fuel-system fires rip through the vehicle far faster than any battery fire would.
if you decide to drive properly + not crash, no worries, simples....
Fire risk in an EV is 250 times less than in an ICE vehicle.
It's REALLY great when something happens to a celebrity as far more people get to know about it.
The Two Show at the NEC last year was full of very expensive reovery trucks with cranes to lift broken EVs onto the bed with.
Breakdown operators say they've never had it so good.
@@mikebreen2890 So you were at the Tow Show then?
Do you work in vehicle recovery?
@@mikebreen2890 If an ICE car runs out of fuel, it can usually just be refuelled and on its way...possibly may need the injection bled. If an EV rans out of charge, it cannot be quickly refuelled on the spot, or even pushed out of the way. It's either a wheels-up tow, or recovery with a crane lorry.
Did you know that EVs have a higher failure rate at first MoT than ICE cars? Source: Motor Trends.
Don't tell me you've bought an EV...
I don't feel the need to own one and never will
So true. I bought a second hand Renault Kangoo EV to see what electric cars are like. Stopped working. A year in a Renault garage, £4,000 in repairs, not including replacement battery paid for by Renault (€ 13,500) and, guess what? Still doesn't work. Not only can Renault not make a decent car, they can't repair it when it brakes down. I reckon they haven't got a clue what they're doing. I have to say, when it was working, it was my favourite car.
Send me some more info nick and if you’re only in blackheath maybe I can test drive it. Geoffbuyscars@gmail.com
a ev renault??? thats nothing short of masochistic who were you in a previous life?? stalin?
for the 13500 EUR the battery costs, you can buy a brand new car with even more range and faster "charging time".
You can always spot the EV in the queue in the winter. It's the vehicle where the driver looks as if he/she/it is dressed for an Arctic expedition.
Phoned the RAC three times in six years of insuring my old SAAB. Let down every time and dealt with the fault myself, including lost a pulley and aux belt (no cooling = limp home), range of diesel in the tank lying to me (only did this once = almighty jump start. It primed itself.) Can't to that with an EV! I guess you just have to carry a generator everywhere you go? SAAB and Volvo used to say a break-down in the arctic can be fatal - so they used to make SAABs entirely serviceable from the top (that's before GM got hold of them). I once got a clutch change down to 20 minutes! And towed my own classic car back from the Lake District to Norfolk with an A-frame and second trip to collect it. Police looked on curiously in Yorkshire and Norfolk, but nobody stopped me. Can't do that with EV.
True! No clutch to fail in an EV. You can tow though (depending on model, just like with ICE) so not sure what your saying can't be done?
@@djtaylorutube You would have a massively reduced range if you were to tow with an EV
You can't tow EVs easily either, due to them locking up the driven wheels when they don't have power, and they are considerably heavier than Petrol/Diesels.
@@ryanwilliams6526 Yes range is reduced but that's different from "can't do it".
As to towing an EV, the wheels don't lock up. Suggest you do a quick RUclips search on "tow charging".
I'm being specific here, with an EV normally powered on, it can be tow charged, it doesn't know the difference between that and going down a hill doing regenerative braking.
Tow car mpg sucks balls though. :)
A 12V battery is good for 6-12 years.
There is a company with vans and diesel generators that will come to your zero miles BEV and give it a get you home charge. They will charge quite a lot for this service.
have you seen the AA advert?.... showing us they are using electric recovery vans!!! I'd love to know how these are working out for the AA - would make a good new video
Helen Skelton has highlighted what many of us have known for years- EV’s are not viable at present.
..I agree, whereas electric milk floats have been viable for many decades (without the fuss)..because the whole concept was fully worked through..
It's actually Helen Skelton who is not viable......
My Landrover stopped because it ran out of diesel. The fuel gauge showed empty before I set off, but this is the future, I’m not responsible for any of my actions!!
A relative has a 4 month old BMW 3 Series Hybrid Estate.
He has has 3 punctures since new. No spare wheel so a recovery truck is required.
Last time this happened, the driver said this was the sixth EV with a puncture he had dealt with that day.
First thing I did after purchasing my last car was to purchase a space saver wheel!
Not a true ev, however there are many ice vehicles that dont have spare wheels car companies saving money .
@@eddiereed5025 The bain of my hubby's life 'wheel change no spare!' The eco nuts wanted them removed from the cars to save the planet. Doesn't save a person's life when they are stuck on the side of the motorway in danger with a can of squirty stuff and a knackered tyre.
Many a car salesman has told a customer to leave the locking wheel nut at home to keep it safe too. Very helpful.
What about the repair kit that comes with them? They all have a compressor and a tin of gunk, unles they are on Run Flat tyres.
@@Smith_Tech_70 No spare wheel, repair kit or run flats included.
Apparently some EV's don't even have a jack as battery in too near the jacking points ! So a puncture has to be taken to a specialist to be lifted ! Ludicrous.
Tesla has to be put in ‘Jack Mode’ to even lift it or you risk blowing the suspension strut 😂
Mine has no jack, and no spare wheel either. Nothing new there. My cars have been like that for the last 10 years. Just a compressor and a tin of gunk. No need to jack the car up.
@Retired Bore Don't get me wrong. I would love a jack and a full size spare like we used to have.
As a son of an AA patrolman, i always carry a jack, spare-wheel (full size), breaker bar, relevant wheel nut socket, with a set of jump leads. And surprise surprise i have never called out breakdown recovery for either a flat battery or spare.
The AA are NOT the only service available...there is a specialist company that has - they claim - better facilities and response than the AA. As always these 'larger' organisations are up themselves and. in general, are no where near as efficient as they ought to be. Good video, nice to see you laughing!
I trued AA once. I wouldn’t trust them with my car, they were all alcoholics.
I used to use the AA for years. I now use a different breakdown company, who charge around half the cost of the AA, and are recommended by Which.......
I heard that if you break down in a smaller EV then its best to call the AAA
Funny.
😂😂😂
Ironically, AAA is actually a major roadside assistance company in the US.
However, the joke was spot on, lol.
Just over a minute in, there was an ad break for… an electric car.
Spot on about car's breaking down, to many people don't look after the maintenance of their vehicle.
I've got a landrover discovery 2a V8 2003, had it for years, never let me down.
My daughter has the same but a TD5. We've just been on a 3500 ks camping trip with no issues at all, apart from my dog having diarrhea in the back of my car 🤣🤪
Fossil drivers have never run out of fuel. Ever.
But you will, in another 25 to 30 years.... But before then, you'll find petrol and diesel increasingly more difficult to find, probably beginning in another 10+ years.
@@Brian-om2hh I think it was sarcasm Brian ;) if it wasn't, then my sarcasm detector failed and I thumbed up the wrong comment. ;)
But you will within the next 25 years. Some of it could be gone before then. Shell recently stated in their latest business report that they plan to cut production of petrol and diesel by 40% on the lead up to 2030...... Shell were one of the organisations who lobbied the UK Government to bring *forward* the ban on the sale of new ICE cars and vans to 2030, from the original date of 2035... The National Grid were another organisation who also lobbied for the ban to be brought forward.
@@Brian-om2hh In the UK most pubs and petrol stations are struggling as it is. I forecast that petrol stations will close increasing fast. Largely depends on Tesla getting to mass market prices.
Hi Geoff, have to agree with you on needing a generator to charge an EV as I was stuck in traffic on the London Road into Coventry one morning and it's a very busy road, but doesn't usually snarl up......unless your EV has died on you and you are sheepishly hiding behind a tree hoping no-one will see the big petrol generator that's thundering away behind it! Made worse by the fact it was on a dual carriageway section overlooked by a crowd of striking council workers and next to a busy bus stop full of kids plus it was a blue and yellow Tesla with "Help Ukraine" emblazoned down its sides! How my son and I laughed but forgot to film it all! 🤣
Did you see about the york council hiding all those EV refuse vans because they haven’t installed the chargers yet…
I thought most recovery vans now have a diesel generator and lead to plug in the car. They give them just enough charge to get to the nearest fast charger then follow the EV to ensure the charger is available and working.
LOL! I worked for a AAA road service and towing company here in the states several years. tires and fuel where the two most common problems and that was before EV where popular. Some hybrids where on the road but I only had to tow one. It was a Prius that the customer had lost the key fob too so I had to take it to the dealer. As far as running out of fuel, I would bet the same type people that don't plan ahead to keep gas in their tanks would also not plan ahead to have enough charge to drive their EVs. Like the celebrity article you read. User error! Your concern about the weight of EVs making tires less reliable is crazy. That is like saying a full size van or pickup truck is going to have more tire failures than a lighter car. Both vehicles are designed to use tires that match the weight and performance needs of the vehicle so tire failure would more likely because of poor maintenance or abuse of the vehicle than it's manufactured gross weight. Yes, some people just can't resist putting their EV in sport mode and driving like a mad man all the time prematurely wearing out their tires but the same behavior is common with the gas fueled muscle and super car owners too.
What about getting an MOT on an ev? Does your local MOT station cover EVs ?
Are there special requirements, as electric vehicles will soon be of a certain age 🤔
They MOTd my friend's 69 reg iPace
Quite a number of garages are now being offered re-training courses to work on EV's Jonathan. The prime mover behind this is HEVRA the Hybrid and Electric Vehicle Repair Alliance. Both the guys in my local village garage have been on their course, and are certified for EV repairs and servicing.....
@@gadgetguy1379 filth
Less to check so they will be clapping there hands
Less requirements for EVs than ICE. Suspension and lights and all the ancillary stuff remains unchanged. But no need to faddle with emissions and gearbox and other things too.
Never seen a broke down EV and I do 180 miles a day in my Tesla which I’ve owned 18 months! Seen 10s of Jaguars on the lay by oil everywhere! Does that ring bells with peeps ? Also only ever charge at home 😊
Love your cynicism and to be fair you are absolutely correct.
Does anyone know how much a generator cost that can produce 5 kw and what amount of fuel it would use to charge an EV . Also how much that type of generator weighs ? I'll tell you . A lot .
First ;3 feel for the mechanics tbh
Edit after watching full vid: I look forward to the follow up 😅 feel like this one could blow up like an electric car battery! 🔋💥 I do want one of those Jump packs, I'll keep it in my glovebox! Wait... I can't 👀😂
Great one for you Geoff on this. I was called out to transport a family whose minibus could barely travel 35 miles after a quick charge. A round journey took 4 hours longer than it would have in a diesel due to frequent recharge stops. The round journey was 148 miles. From what I could ascertain they had stopped at least 3 times. From where they said they where to where I collected them I calculated 35 to 40 miles. The particular vehicle is suppose to have a range of 126 to 142 miles depending on battery pack.
The AA's groundbreaking battery to battery EV recharger, adds range to EV's without burning fossil fuels.
Our mobile EV charger is capable of providing an emergency top-up at the roadside for an out of charge electric vehicle. Approximately 7.5 miles of range can be added in 15 minutes from on-board Lithium batteries that trickle charge through a smart charging system in normal use so there is no need to have an engine or generator running to charge an electric vehicle. The system can deliver an output of 16A - 32A to suit all popular electric vehicles.
Without telling us how many Kwh the 'Onboard' gizmo holds, and how many times it can perform before needing to refill, this comment is Cargo Cultism at its finest. As for the idea of fossil fuel free ? Presumably they/you want us to think the recovery van charges it up as it goes along ? Good luck with running an alternator that'll push out that much juice with normal driving. Its all bollocks.
@Fanakapan222 fair comment 👌
The idea that a system described above does not involve fossil fuels somewhere in the recharge is laughable. Also, how many vehicles can it recover before required recharge and how long does that take? Filling up a fuel can at a petrol station is probably way quicker!
Hahaha..... groundbreaking 😄 hope a charging point is within 8 miles hahaha numpty!!!
big deal
How do you charge your charge
Two things. Breakdown vans include a power bank so you don't need to use a diesel generator, rather a lithium based power bank which can charge the battery for around 10 - 12 miles. As for tyres. EV manufacturers recommend the use of low resistant tyres, together with a much lower need to use traditional brakes due to regenerative braking means that tyres last roughly the same as those on a traditional ICE car.
Yes, but the tyres cost more on them EV's. Oh and them EV's cost twice the price of Ice cars, 👍
@@madb132 Yes the tyres cost more, never said otherwise. However while an EV costs more up front the TCO for an EV is actually less than an ICE Car. According to Direct Line. On average, based on purchase price and ownership costs over 14 years, an EV would cost £3,752 a year over the course of its life, compared to £3,858 for an ICE car. Yes, before you say it, yes the batteries will last 14 years if not longer, although they are warranted for between 7 & 10 years depending on manufacturer
@@madb132 Er, no they don't..... You can buy a brand new EV for exactly the same price as a new petrol Astra, Focus or Golf.....
The height of ignorance is depending on another lithium battery to save one that is flat. ARE PEOPLE UNABLE TO REASON THIS OUT?
Use a different fuel to save one of these shitty EVs, unless you want your breakdown van to die as well, halfway through the task.
When a manufacturer tells you to use low-resistant tires (low-friction tires) you should walk out the door and never return. Tires work on FRICTION alone.
@@barneyrubble1964would a EV battery last 14 years.??
Welcome to your future. You are right about people needing recovery over stupid things. Like a Amber check engine light. Which means carry on driving and get your mechanic to check it in the future. (Or 2 years with my Yaris before the mass air flow completely went). Like you said learn to change a spare tyre at the side of the road. But make sure you have a proper wheel. Jak and tools to do so. Tyre weld is useless for a shredded tyre. (As I found out with my Honda accord.)
The only time I've called them out was last year when my 2003 focus ST gearbox bearing went. And even then they couldn't toe me. Because it was too slammed to get the thing they use round the wheel. And I had no toe eye to get it towed. So instead I had to pay for low loader to get it to my mechanic.
One week ago our I-Pace broke down in a Costa car park. It just died and had 150 miles range left at the time. Nothing would work. Couldn’t even lock the doors. The AA came after 2 hours and said you need a truck. 8, yes 8 hours later at 2am the truck arrived to collect the car and bring my wife home. 4 days later they took it to Jaguar who replaced the 12V battery. Job done! Why did the AA not do that on their first visit?????
How much did you sell it for?
@@Deploracle Cost at purchase £82K, value 4 years later with 50K miles .......................£23K
@@darrellbaldwin6226 My knowledge of car repairs is extremely limited. But if door locks and control electrics don't work, I would guess 12 volt battery.
Yes the tyres is true. On my 2nd front pair now with 18745. Did a 95 mile trip yesterday and it was a nightmare to find a fast charger. We found one at a large Tesco and luckily it was 50p per KW. Now many are over 70p my calculations told me if I had to use the expensive one then I'd been better off taking my diesel. And I would have had less stress to be honest. I still live my ev just no range ok round town.
@@mikebreen2890 Mike I do live in-between mid and North Wales . We also took a long trip to Hexham, wife stated we will never do a long trip in EV again her words not mine . We do have the so claimed 239 mile range nissan. 9 hours total drive to and back home. 5 hours 40 minutes total stops. Dual chargers shocked me they share between 2 cars. Mike the reality is and my advise to the average person not the retired banker who has lots of spare cash and that is to wait 10 years. Even the new nio and byd comming with 91 kk w battery's is fantastic with ranges like 400 miles still need bigger better fast chargers. We as a working family are now looking for a second car like a Passat diesel for our longer journeys. Our electric nissan is assume and free to use in the summer connected to our solar so advantages for this.
@@mikebreen2890 very well put Mike. We do more than 20 miles per day buddy. EVs with ranges of 273 miles are more suited like you said local trips. My ev is excellent for our short journeys. Anything longer after our experiences will now be the trusted diesel with its 470 range. Fill up less than 10 minutes. Round town short journeys recommended are EVs. And I love mine
@@mikebreen2890 mike I am an EV charger installer, I have EV qualifications I install renewable energy and owned EVs for many years now. I most certainly know how to use one and to its most effectiveness possible. I even now can access my chademo port to run my home using my 62kw battery. Making the most of an EV in my life is very important. My advise to anyone thinking of buying an EV is to really think hard about how you intend to use it. Locally it's a no brainer and if you have 8kw PV system you will use your EV free for at least 8 months a year . If you plan to use it for long journeys then think very hard. Remember people we did a family weekend away Google maps to our hotel up north was 4.5 hour journey. Return to midwales was the same. For this weekends journey we added 5 hours 40 minutes using fast chargers . We had to share a duel feed charger, the Tesla driver was not impressed. Our last stop we meet with an Argentine couple who were returning to Heathrow airport to catch a flight . They hire a pulsar and they had to charge it but in reality they were not going to make there flight. We also met an family in a VW id4 lovely car he was struggling to get to London to his son's wedding. His words not mine to anyone who is thinking of buying an EV was wait 10 years. Sorry I don't have any technical graphs to share or technical quotes it's just real life experience I am quoting.
I have a BMW CE-04 scooter, and it's in the shop after three months of ownership. Before the warranty runs out, I will be trading it in
Tesla went up in flames in the USA, it took 22,000 litres of water to put the fire out!!!!!
Around 160'000 ICE cars catch fire each year in the USA too. Are those anywhere on your radar?
@@Brian-om2hh
I bet an ICE car doesn't take 22,000 litres of water to put out.
I used to work as a bus driver, and we did have a bus catch fire. It took one fire engine to put the fire out, that is only 1,800 litres. A bus is also a damn sight bigger than a car.
So a bus fire can be put out using 20,000 litres less of water.
@@thetaleof2wheels.947 Better to not catch fire in the first place though wouldn't you say?
There have been 2 (yes, 2!) Tesla fires in the UK in 12 years (and pretty good numbers for just about every other EV manufacturers, but those are harder to check in the data). Thousands of ICE fires *every single year*. And the USA data stacks up as many many times more likely that ICE catches fire.
And the impact of 4839 gallons of fuel (22k litres) - or enough to move a vehicle (at a generous 40mpg average) just 193k miles - is way bigger than 22k litres of water. And that before you consider that to get 4839 gallons of fuel into vehicles you have wasted 806 gallons in the extraction, refinement, and distributionn of the fuel in the first place. And then there is the people who died getting that fuel to the pump (but we are all pretty good at ignoring those) - last time I checked getting 22k gallons of water to an EV fire doesn't see anyone dying or having to clean up many tens of square miles of ocean ... or putting it out (again, with water, I admit) when the ocean is boiling. (Sanchi, 2018, Ireland 2022, and countless other examples)
So unless EVs are very many times MORE likely to catch fire then this is an irrelevance.
Except, of course, as demonstrated in the independently recorded data EVs are many multiples (or even an order of magnitude) LESS likely to catch fire ... and improving all the time!
Please check the facts bebfore you take anecdote as a reason to decide your future choices.
@@aidanapword AutoinsuranceAZ figures, out of 100,000 cars of each type sold, petrol fires 1530, EV fires 25.
Thought I'd help you with the figure there. ;)
The AA emergency charge solution is not a generator. Those patrol vehicles suitably equipped have a bank of lithium batteries that are kept topped up from the vehicle. The batteries can then provide either a 16A or 32A charge to the stranded vehicle.
Seems crazy though. Others have said that AA will partially charge the EV for free whereas they charge a fee for giving 10 litres of petrol to a stranded motorist. It seems complete lunacy that we don't have a network of working chargers yet we are able to install battery banks in AA vans that will give a boost for free.
hi, I'm in recovery; from working in the recovery industry :)
Seriously though. I have only recovered a few EVs and most of them were very new. One brand new Tesla being taken back to Tesla simply because it did not accept charge. On the subject of the two main reasons for breakdowns. Totally agree, jump starts and tyre changes were the majority of jobs. However, you say EVs don't come with a spare tyre. This is standard for all new cars (as far as I know) for over ten years in some cases. The 'repair (foam) kits are absolutely useless, and besides, by the time someone realises they have a flat, the tyre is often so damaged on the side walls, if it could be inflated, it's a disaster (blowout) waiting to happen.
U forgot, if your car have "foam" repair kit you should replace it every 3 years (in VAG group) also TPMS should be mandatory if u wanna sell cars with foam kit.
The quicker EVs sod off, the better. We will call it just a fad that came and went, bit like fidget spinners.
EVs an Impractical solution to an Imaginary problem.
Prove me Wrong 🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭😭
Death in extraction and refinement of fuel oil.
Death in distribution of fuel oil.
Thermodynamics.
Nitrous Oxide.
CO2.
The proclivities of big oil companies, cartels, oligopoly, general economic abuse, and in extreme cases wars.
Ah yes, I almost forgot: thermodynamics.
Inconvenience and waste, and 1000s of fuel oil container trucks on our roads (ah yes ... Death here too).
Dangerous fuel stations dispensing flammable liquids that sometimes blow up and kill people loving nearby.
Thermodynamics.
Relatively unsafe vehicles on the road and their clunky lumpy lumps of metal protruding into every cabin, other car, and pedestrian they can.
Oh and fuel oil is getting easier and easier to source and extract all the time .... oops... no ... I got that one the wrong way round.
And 1 last one: Thermodynamics.
And thats just the start.
I did enjoy watching it, and have been enjoying many of your videos regarding problematic EV's.
The only way is [ diesel ]