Did Miles Morales ACTUALLY Have PLOT ARMOUR In Marvels Spider-Man 2??

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  • Опубликовано: 25 июн 2024
  • Insomniac did a great job at introducing the world to a very likeable Miles Morales in addition to creating one of my favourite adaptations of Peter Parker AKA The OG Webhead.
    I was very surprised by how much I enjoyed the Miles Morales game! Sure it wasn't a very long game and it did tread familiar ground that the PS4 Game did, however the gameplay and webswinging was a fine improvement over the mechanics from the PS4 Spider-Man game.
    Fast Forward 2023 and Insomniacs Spider-Man 2 releases.... And whilst I certainly have criticisms towards this sequel, an unfortunately thing many people have noticed is that people somehow take 2 things from that game
    1. The idea that Peter was nerfed
    2. The Concept that Miles had plot armour and surpassed Peter Parker in every way since he's being pushed to be the main Spider-Man of the verse.
    We covered the 1st point in a previous video, now its time to give my take on the other theory to see whether or not it holds any weight (it doesn't XD)
    As always I hope you enjoy!!
    Was Peter Nerfed?? - • Was Peter Parker ACTUA...
    Peter VS Miles Breakdown - • Why Peter Parker VS Mi...
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    Intro 00:00
    PS4 Game: 00:53
    Miles Solo Game: 01:29
    Spider-Man 2: 06:32
    Peter VS Miles: 08:07
    Venom: 11:03
    Conclusion: 13:56
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  • @TheGamingRift11
    @TheGamingRift11  3 месяца назад +14

    Can the Miles hate stop? 😅
    (Sorry I’m still sick so my voice was croaky)

    • @Kayden20106
      @Kayden20106 3 месяца назад +3

      Ok ( I don’t hate him he’s just ain’t my favorite .

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  3 месяца назад +3

      @@Kayden20106 fax

    • @Gojosanitizer
      @Gojosanitizer 3 месяца назад +3

      ​I honestly just hate him as Spiderman. Sure I like the movies but the game.. is a different story hi's dialogue just made me want to quit the fucking game like it's so cringy it's not even funny. If he actually had good quips like Peter then I would've completed the game 3 times! Just goes to show how IMPORTANT dialogue is in games.​@@TheGamingRift11

    • @junk_bot_man6412
      @junk_bot_man6412 3 месяца назад +1

      NO😡

    • @isaacamaya5059
      @isaacamaya5059 3 месяца назад +1

      I mean I don’t hate the character I just hate how people always say he’s better than peter after that boss fight, like people are really turning on the first Spider-Man that was ever made but like can we just both agree that their both good in their own unique way

  • @ltsMotion
    @ltsMotion 3 месяца назад +17

    He didn't have plot armor he was sidelined

  • @Multi-fandomEldingArum
    @Multi-fandomEldingArum 3 месяца назад +32

    People also keep weirdly saying that Peter in 2 can’t do anything on his own and is always needing Miles to save him, when last I checked during the Lizard, Wraith, Kraven, and Scream boss fights, Peter was able to defeat all of them on his own (granted some of them were when he had the symbiote, but it was still him) and Miles wasn’t there to save him (except for the Kraven fight, but that was more to stop him from making a terrible mistake, and not saving his life).
    I never thought Miles had plot armor in this game, so I just think these arguments are just dumb if you do pay attention to the story.

    • @clonesaga2802
      @clonesaga2802 3 месяца назад +8

      I agree I think people jump to conclusions to quickly thinking stuff like that I'm sorry if I'm wrong about that but I think it's true to me and one of the reasons why some criticize the game just seem pointless to me to for a story some don't pay attention to

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  3 месяца назад +3

      Pretty much yeah

    • @shayneeason9266
      @shayneeason9266 3 месяца назад +1

      Peter didn’t really defeat scream because he had to free her from herself and was almost choked to death at end of fight

    • @Multi-fandomEldingArum
      @Multi-fandomEldingArum 3 месяца назад

      @@shayneeason9266 in this case, Peter was able to defeat Scream by freeing MJ from influence, not by beating her to a pulp. Though that’s the way I see it.

    • @hitendhir9700
      @hitendhir9700 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@shayneeason9266Then we can also say Miles didn't beat Symbiote Peter, actually he didn't. Because Peter was about to strike Miles in mid air until Miles strike the bell again.
      Then Peter actually defeated symbiote by himself by removing the suit. If Peter didn't want to turn normal again, there is no force stopping Peter Parker to put down Miles Morales.

  • @ATalesTruth-
    @ATalesTruth- 3 месяца назад +26

    Thank you for addressing all the bs
    People need to not have bad faith when insomniac have been nothing but good faith individuals
    They deserve more the our respect but our support

    • @NMbones98
      @NMbones98 3 месяца назад +2

      They are ok it would be better if they dropped sweet baby Inc tho

  • @FirestoneAnimation
    @FirestoneAnimation 3 месяца назад +50

    Y E S! SO many god damn plot points showing that Peter was not nerfed and Miles was not buffed. People are just coping beyond recognition. Seriously Miles got dunked on by Kraven and jabbed with a tranquilizer from the one hunter on the crane. He ain't a Gary Sue. If Miles had to 1v1 Lizard or Kraven, he'd be cooked.

    • @KalinGames526
      @KalinGames526 3 месяца назад +7

      So true omg

    • @spider-man5544
      @spider-man5544 3 месяца назад +16

      And miles barely escaped from a weakened martin li. Remember he gets stronger everytime he takes someone's negative thoughts

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  3 месяца назад +7

      Thank you!! It took a lot of research

    • @VerseEditz5599
      @VerseEditz5599 3 месяца назад +5

      SOOO TRUE FINALLY smart people i agree

    • @the_mikeanator
      @the_mikeanator 3 месяца назад +1

      Are we just going to forget how Peter got crushed by a fridge

  • @josephbugeja3208
    @josephbugeja3208 3 месяца назад +8

    Miles extra Venom & adaptive camouflage abilities we’re actually teased in the first Spider-Man game, it just wasn’t thrown into our faces & spelled out for us in an in game cutscene..

    • @kinglycrimson
      @kinglycrimson 3 месяца назад +3

      Plus the comics

    • @josephbugeja3208
      @josephbugeja3208 3 месяца назад +3

      @@kinglycrimson yeah but in this case I’m only referring to the *IN UNIVERSE* context for his powers.. mainly because these fictional characters aren’t aware that they’re fictional characters based on fictional comic book character’s with the same abilities..

  • @giovannymachado7538
    @giovannymachado7538 3 месяца назад +14

    FINALLY SOMEONE WITH BRAINCELLS FUNCTIONING, seriosly this video had some incredible and well rechaerd information about those topics, amazing video man

    • @Gojosanitizer
      @Gojosanitizer 3 месяца назад +1

      Use your brain cells to spell seriously

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  3 месяца назад +1

      Thank you very much!! It felt good to actually shed some light on Miles as he gets an unnecessary level of hate

  • @SoxSuffering
    @SoxSuffering 3 месяца назад +5

    bro my friends tried to say the game was bad because peter was just saying everything is his fault and i told then they acting like hes heartless or something then they said could not be batman💀

    • @higiyoyt5889
      @higiyoyt5889 3 месяца назад +1

      Bruh u need to get new friends then. Do they know what a symbiote is?

    • @acedoomer5244
      @acedoomer5244 3 месяца назад

      If they're not known with superheroes or with Spider-Man specifically and you disagree with them than they one of the sanest people in the world and you should stop being fanatic and praising everything that had a Spider-Man name in it

  • @iandean6316
    @iandean6316 3 месяца назад +4

    Peter's last family is not even his biological aunt. Peter in whole game is just literally sad

    • @acedoomer5244
      @acedoomer5244 3 месяца назад

      It won't stop him in the first game

  • @KalinGames526
    @KalinGames526 3 месяца назад +13

    He most CERTAINLY had plot armor

  • @isaacamaya5059
    @isaacamaya5059 3 месяца назад +4

    I feel like since Peter has anti venom now I feel like his abilities are caught up with miles if not better, I just hope is Spider-Man 3 they really give Peter his all

    • @isaacamaya5059
      @isaacamaya5059 3 месяца назад +2

      Sorry for the yapping lol but if miles wasn’t sidelined In this game we would’ve got bodied just as much as Peter

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  3 месяца назад +2

      It’s all good! Nice to read

  • @the_mikeanator
    @the_mikeanator 3 месяца назад +3

    The only issue I had with miles in this game is that he doesn’t really face any consequences for his actions like when he almost got people killed going for Lee. Peter just laughs it off and his revenge quest doesn’t come with any real downsides he just finds Lee beats him and forgives him. I guess this could be because the whole story feels kinda rushed even the symbiote is just treated like a mind hyjack and not your dark emotions showing.

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  3 месяца назад +4

      Miles never forgave Li?
      And the symbiote was not a mind hyjack at all. That’s ridiculous

    • @the_mikeanator
      @the_mikeanator 3 месяца назад

      @@TheGamingRift11 in the story everyone addresses the symbiote as if it’s just taking over the person rather than acting as a reflection of their deep thoughts they keep hidden. In fact when Peter for instance tries to apologize they say it wasn’t you when it actually was same with mj.

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  3 месяца назад +1

      @@the_mikeanator when a character is unconscious such as the Peter vs MJ scene in the tunnels then yeah
      But how do you defend the Peter Vs Kraven fight?? Where the symbiote constantly urges Peter to kill Kraven yet he holds back the whole fight?
      The only reason it came to be that way with Harry was because he achieved perfect symbiosis with the symbiote yet then resisted the influence in the final battle 🤷‍♂️
      Although it’s pretty obvious during the Scream fight that it does bring out the dark side of you as MJ basically “screams” her frustrations at Peter in that fight
      Or in Peter Vs Miles he screams his frustrations at life and how the city is viewing him, and his insecurities at being overshadowed by Miles

    • @the_mikeanator
      @the_mikeanator 3 месяца назад

      @@TheGamingRift11 your points are valid but the problem for me is that the story doesn’t acknowledge it, even though we can see hints of it it’s like the game doesn’t want to fully commit so before the characters can talk about it they just say it’s not you.
      The characters don’t really come to terms with their inner feelings or try to hash them out they are just ignored for the most part

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  3 месяца назад +1

      @@the_mikeanator you can criticise the writing for the characters not acknowledging it by all means
      But from the audiences perspective they do an acceptable job at presenting the symbiotes in this game I think

  • @pn2294
    @pn2294 2 месяца назад +2

    Of course he has plot armor. All important characters have plot armor.

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  2 месяца назад +3

      No? 🤔

    • @pn2294
      @pn2294 2 месяца назад +1

      @@TheGamingRift11 if you don’t have to worry about a stray bullet or potshot killing you in a fight scene, then you have plot armor.

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  2 месяца назад +3

      @@pn2294 why would either Spiderman have to worry about bullets when they can dodge lightning bolts 🤔
      Also does miles have plot armour when he was knocked out multiple times and tortured in his solo game 🤔

    • @pn2294
      @pn2294 2 месяца назад +1

      @@TheGamingRift11 the fact that he didn’t die from any of those highlights his plot armor
      I don’t think plot armor is bad though. It’s necessary to making a story work.

    • @pn2294
      @pn2294 2 месяца назад +1

      @@TheGamingRift11 in addition, Peter also has plot armor
      Just making that clear

  • @TrueSpider-Man
    @TrueSpider-Man 3 месяца назад +6

    Short answer: Yes, Miles has plot armor (as well as MJ) and Peter was nerfed. Goodbye.

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  3 месяца назад +11

      Yeah……no

    • @LanceLee-dh5pc
      @LanceLee-dh5pc 3 месяца назад +5

      People forget to mention the fact that he "beat Symbiote Peter" which is beyond stupid nor does it make sense.

    • @connorharnage6697
      @connorharnage6697 3 месяца назад +5

      @@LanceLee-dh5pcHe didn't beat Peter. He fought Peter while trying to help him get the Symbiote off. If that fight dragged on too long, Miles would have died

  • @DaRealImpostorYT
    @DaRealImpostorYT 3 месяца назад +1

    Didn’t bro survive absorbing energy out of a reactor that was cable of blowing up most of a city, killed someone else, a whole explosion, and one of the highest falls in his own game? Bro’s plot armor is insane.

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  3 месяца назад +9

      Yeah indeed he did….. pretty impressive feat…. That’s not plot armour 🤷‍♂️

    • @andyoye9230
      @andyoye9230 2 месяца назад +4

      Plot armour is only when it is inconsistent or doesn't make sense for his abilities.

  • @it2spooky4me79
    @it2spooky4me79 3 месяца назад +2

    No clue? But i know i have Plot Armor.
    To be honest i dont really care if he does have Plot Armor, i mean i watch Anime, and have you seen THOSE plot armors, characters be losing limbs and still be fighting then they'll be fine next episode.

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  3 месяца назад +3

      You don’t have plot armour, you are just goated ⚡️

  • @NMbones98
    @NMbones98 3 месяца назад +2

    Who else was going to save peter bro he had a little which there isn't anything wrong with that but honestly every superhero character majority of the time has plot armor its a stupid argument to make imo

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  3 месяца назад +1

      I guess the avengers have plot armour cause they have good teamwork 😅 it makes no sense

    • @NMbones98
      @NMbones98 3 месяца назад +1

      @@TheGamingRift11 hope your not referring to the MCU versions because that couldn't be further from the truth bruh

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  3 месяца назад +1

      @@NMbones98 it was a joke
      Although not many superheroes have plot armour and the idea that every hero has plot armour is pretty dumb if I’m honest

    • @NMbones98
      @NMbones98 3 месяца назад +1

      @@TheGamingRift11 so the heroes don't win majority of the time is what your telling me??? superman is a character that is not meant to overcome evil at the end of the day the way he's actually written majority of the time is to win against evil does not have plot armor is what your telling me yea that's actually dumb if I'm being honest lmfao 😂

    • @NMbones98
      @NMbones98 3 месяца назад +1

      @@TheGamingRift11 you actually think not many heroes have plot armor is actually crazy bro ngl

  • @stevenceja4706
    @stevenceja4706 3 месяца назад +1

    I like Miles, and im not saying he had plot armor. However, aside from Martin Li I think his part in the story was written poorly.

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  3 месяца назад +1

      I guess he was sidelined a lot given how Harry had more of a connection to Peter and MJ (still did have a connection to miles but not nearly to the same extent)

    • @stevenceja4706
      @stevenceja4706 3 месяца назад

      @TheGamingRift11 Except that wasn't written well either. Almost everyone in the game, aside from Rio, has a problem of being nice for the sake of being nice. It worked in the first 2 games because Insomniac was laying down the foundations for these characters in order to build upon them and create character development. However, we don't get any of that. There's no conflict between any of the characters, which in a symbiote storyline is a real problem. I wanted to like the story, but I just dont.

  • @jasonblack2477
    @jasonblack2477 3 месяца назад +2

    Im not buying a year 2 Spider Man beating a year 9 Symbiote Spider Man. Saying this out loud already sounds dumb

    • @ozzie_theotter
      @ozzie_theotter 3 месяца назад +7

      It's almost as if Peter was having an internal battle more than a physical one and didn't actually want to hurt Miles

    • @ozzie_theotter
      @ozzie_theotter 3 месяца назад +3

      Not to mention lil bro had to abuse his weaknesses

    • @jasonblack2477
      @jasonblack2477 3 месяца назад

      @@ozzie_theotter Peter was full of Rage and wasnt going to stop yeah but Miles did too good in my opinion

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  3 месяца назад +2

      It’s all good…. You just didn’t understand the battle

    • @jasonblack2477
      @jasonblack2477 3 месяца назад +1

      @@TheGamingRift11 mental nerf? Or just sweet inc baby?

  • @SqwiglyWorm9
    @SqwiglyWorm9 3 месяца назад +1

    The problem with Peter retiring isn’t the woke factor it’s that it’s not what Spiderman would do he wouldn’t retire knowing he has the power to help and save people. 2spider men are better than 1

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  3 месяца назад +4

      He’s not retiring he’s taking a break

    • @SqwiglyWorm9
      @SqwiglyWorm9 3 месяца назад

      @@TheGamingRift11 yeah ik but even still just feels out of his character kinda defeats the whole great power comes great responsibility. He’s got great power yet he’s not doing anything

    • @windghost2
      @windghost2 2 месяца назад +1

      @@SqwiglyWorm9 Bro needs to focus on getting his life together, there's only so much you can do as a superhero before your personal problems affect you. Peter taking a break doesn't mean that it's out of character, it just means he's finally taking the time to help himself out and heal. Miles can handle things for a while before Peter comes back.

    • @farkick2.055
      @farkick2.055 Месяц назад +1

      Peter has quit bring Spider-Man several times in comics,Tobey Peter “quit” so it is what Spider-Man would do especially when his protege more then cable of doing the job

    • @windghost2
      @windghost2 Месяц назад

      @@farkick2.055 He's also taking a break. He's not retiring at all. He just needs some *much* needed time for himself and he deserves that.

  • @gioarevadze2703
    @gioarevadze2703 2 месяца назад +1

    comment

  • @lewisdobson9476
    @lewisdobson9476 3 месяца назад +2

    Worth The Wait