I love to see it! Very effective way to manage the amount of water on the paint before drying. The Gilmour flood setting also makes this much easier to do without having to kink the hose and unscrew the nozzle and flow the water directly out of the hose itself.
OK, you've sold me on the Gilmour nozzle. I have a pretty high end Gardena hose reel system, hose, and two types of nozzle's which I really like, but i'm getting one of those Gilmour nozzle's to put on it. Good gosh that is an awesome trick with that free running water shooting out the center of the nozzle! Looks like it leaves the panel almost dry. Of course, i'm sure that depends on what coating, wax, or sealant is one the panel also. I'm guessing some react better than others. But the way I keep my paint, it should work wonders on my cars. I've used a similar trick in the past, but I always had to unscrew the nozzle from the hose and then run the water across the panel. I love the fact you can just rotate the head and it converts to the center flowing stream. I'll be getting one of those later tonight.
Awesome water test! I am seeing the same results on my daughters car. You are right it is the easiest coating I have applied also. I bought that Gilmour nozzle and can’t wait to use it.
Thanks FAB! Right now I haven't used a coating that matches the level of ease of use, end slickness, and initial hydrophobic performance that Graphene Matrix offers out of a single coating system that doesn't require a separate topcoat product. Really stoked to see just how well this holds up, and it looked absolutely fantastic on the Fusion you applied it to! I've got a little bit of a collection building up of those Gilmour nozzles for the different versions they sell, that rear trigger one that you picked up has lasted surprisingly long for me with heavy usage. Wish they made them just a bit more comfortable though, the previous gen Gilmour nozzles had that fantastic thicker rubber grip that was so comfortable, I want those with the watering face of these newer ones with the center flood.
That's good to hear Dave, loving the ease of use here. I used it today on the fenders of the Honda at 116°F surface temps and had no issues with wipeability. Keep me posted on its durability if you can!
That’s just insane! No need for a drying towel. Thanks for sharing. I have the Glassparency graphene coating. Can’t wait to see if my results compared to that of Pan the Organizer’s!!
Looks excellent. Looking forward to long term durability results. The price point isn’t really that bad if the durability holds up to ceramic offerings. Prices will also surely dip when the market fills with competing products.
Awesome review as always. Hydrophobics are insane! Can't wait to see how long the real world durability is going to be. So far from every video I've seen on this product thus far, it looks like Ethos may have knocked this one out of the park.
Thanks Idtriton, always good to see you in the comments! It's definitely early, but first impressions are great for this coating. Worked really well for me today on even hotter temperature paint, I'm not having any issues with wipeability. So that combination of ease of use, slickness, and amazing initial hydrophobic performance is definitely at the top of the list for the coatings I've used so far. Ethos also has phenomenal brand aesthetics, labels are well designed, I'll be saving this bottle for the shelf for sure.
I was looking forward to this! I think I'll just polish off the CQUK 3.0 and try this at this point... The coating's already around the 1 year mark and I'm sure it would perform the same a few more years down the line with my maintenance but I just get bored quickly and love trying out new things.
I think you'll enjoy working with it! Definitely an easier wipe off and leveling compared to CQUK 3.0. The only question is whether or not it can really match or exceed CQUK's outstanding hydrophobic durability, and fantastic cooperation with a variety of different toppers. Keep me posted on what you decide to go with!
Loving the content dude, keep it up. Have you ever thought about doing more standardised testing? I know your thoughts on gloss meters but have you tried measuring contact angle or sheeting angles? You’re the only guy on youtube doing long term real world testing of detailing products, love your work!
Thanks David, it would definitely be fun to get into more standardized testing at some point! Still want to get my hands on one of Rhopoint's IQ model glossmeters to better measure paint clarity with different abrasives. I haven't spent much time at all seeing if I could accurately capture contact angle measurements and sliding angles, definitely would be interesting to see if I could do so. Would absolutely love to dive into UV resistance measuring at some point as well. Make sure you check out Mike G's channel as well, he does a lot of long term durability tests with different coatings on the market for how they hold up on his test cars: ruclips.net/channel/UCmHXtYCsChkg04tvdwCzHvw
@@WaxMode Thanks for the reccomendation Wax, I'll definitely check out what Mike G is doing. Reading about the Rhopoint, the fact that it can measure orangepeel and haze from poor coating curing is insane, I'd love to see that haha. I feel like you could pretty easily test UV, just leave a test panel outside in a greenhouse for a few months. Contact angle is just taking a macro photo from a side view and drawing digital lines on the image to find the angle. Sliding angle would be a bit more involved but still easy, would just need to setup a small tilt table of some kind. 3 min video if you're curious: ruclips.net/video/RyH_fCSNKtg/видео.html All of these tests are unpractical with full size car panels, but if you could get multiple uniform flat 4"x4" painted and clear coated squares, it would be easier. Your gloss measurements would be consistent, and you could put your test panels indoors under a window or small (cheap) lights for UV. I know it is a lot for just one guy to do/afford, but if you have already been thinking about it, it would be very cool to see quantitative measurements in an industry that is full of hyped up and subjective reviews. It's why I love your reviews, you compare lots of coatings at once, and do long term real world testing which helps to make an informed decision. If you would like advice, my background is in automotive component reliability lab-testing (condensing years of real world testing into a few months of intensive tests), I'd be happy to chat about it if you'd like to. Keep up the good work.
Will be interesting to hear and perhaps show how the car shows the early morning dew. Same beading and does it self dry when you drive it afterwards. Guess we cannot discuss on AG forum
I was stoked to see this review. I like this product better than the other graphene products on the market. I’m curious how Defy would work as a topper? Great review and I cannot wait to see the long term performance.
Thanks Neil! Ethos recommends Defy as the maintenance topper for the coating, I'll begin testing toppers once I give the coating a bit more time to cure, but I've had good results with both Defy and Ceramic Refresh on their Ceramic Wax Pro, so I might do some test sections with these two side by side in the future on the Graphene Matrix Coating.
For a single product system, this is looking good at the very start, but it's definitely early and I'll need the results of the durability test to confirm just how good this coating can last. CQUK 3.0 is very good, fantastic price and crazy durable, also a single product system that doesn't need the topcoat for hydrophobic durability, but lacking in the slickness and ease of use that most first time coating users would want to have. That balance of ease of use and slickness and incredible fresh hydrophobic performance is what this Graphene Matrix Coating offers from the start, so if it can hold up on the daily driver, then that would be awesome.
I'll let you know once I get more time with it, but with the very fresh performance this looks amazing and I wouldn't want to top it yet like I would if I was working with Gtechniq Crystal Serum Light or Gyeon Mohs. Ethos has this rated as a 5+ year coating, and most coatings out there will eventually lose hydrophobic performance over the months or years but I'll be looking to see how quickly this happens on the Honda.
@@WaxMode I'm waiting patiently for the graphene spray coating war to begin 😊. I think the graphene infused maintenance products, toppers that can be used as stand alone protection or on top of another sealant will drive consumers nuts. Coatings are just not as attractive to consumers in my opinion as the spray on/wipe off products that will be coming soon.
Carlos, we have very interesting findings when it comes to hydrophobicity long term. Its a little complicated to explain over text so we'll probably be making a video about it or explain this to WaxMode so he would be able to translate better to his viewers. Long story short, things are looking good for long term hydrophobics.
Cheers Gabe, I definitely need to get my hands on some more. The Adam's Graphene line is one that I think I will try to get my hands on next. CQUK is still a fantastic coating, if the Graphene Matrix can be competitive in hydrophobic durability, you would just need to figure out if the better ease of use and slickness is worth the additional cost. For me, I think where I'm at with the coatings is I'm going to have a desire to actually want to polish the paint out well before the coatings fully tire out since I'm addicted to paint polishing.
John keep me posted on the shelf life for that spray coating. I tried pulling out the first version of the Adam's Ceramic Spray Coating and it wasn't playing as nicely as when I first tested it, and then my Wolfgang Uber Ceramic Spray Coating is not playing as nicely anymore as well. But absolutely, I want to get my hands on the Adam's Graphene coatings to work with in the future. That 60ml size for the $80 is definitely a competitive price if it holds up well.
Really looking forward to your updates on durability on this product. Looked at it several times and considering placing it in my arsenal of offerings. Curious of how Beadmaker would react as a topper.
I too just recently used a graphene coating. Very nice , mine ( can’t say which don’t want no hate ) flashed really fast. So I had to work in smaller areas. I also figured out the timing and then it was easy on easy off just smaller areas. Looks like a topper , it’s a four or five year coating. I only dropped one coat maybe I’ll try another. Good video.
Cheers Amir! You can let us know which coating you're working with, I like to get a feel for what others are using to keep track of feedback for products that I might use in the future. Keep me posted on its durability if you can!
WaxMode I will , I’m currently in my first week of testing and after it’s first wash I noticed a change in water repellency. Application was ome coat , it was hella hot outside ( I work outside for the most part ) and it was no more than the 2 by 2 sections applied and as soon as you laid it down 2 seconds later you wiped it off. After the first wash it’s not the big giant sperm looking beads but better than ceramic beads none the less. Also several rains and not one water spot . I also topped it with a light detailer ( I know I shouldn’t have ) to see how it would behave and the big beads are back. When I know more I’ll holla at you bro.
Waxmooode!!! Missed you in my live yesterday man! So excited to see this video pop up! Insanely addicting hydrophobics for sure. 👍👍 how'd you like application?? I look forward to keeping up with durability updates for sure. Tim killed it with this stuff! Always a pleasure brother🤝🤙
PapaSmurf! Sorry I missed out on the live yesterday, I was watching the end of the Indy race and then had to finish up applying the second coat to the Honda. Application was great on this coating, definitely easier to level out compared to the three CQuartz coatings that I've used, I think Gyeon Mohs is easier but Mohs doesn't have this level of fresh hydrophobic performance that Graphene Matrix has. Can't wait to see how well this coating holds up!
@@WaxMode haha all good my friend!!! I knew you were up to something fun!! Lol Awesome.. I need to get that carpro lite out already!! Had to cancel a detail yesterday due to the ash and smoke from all the fires.. hoping to do it this weekend! 👍👍Graphene Matrix definitely outstanding hydrophobics!👍
@@1stfrompuertorico568 Usa las de costco amarillas que eso brega al 100 pa quitar coatings. Me gusta usar una con el "short nap" afuera para el primer wipe y otra con el lado fluffy pa'fuera para el segundo wipe. Las toallas de Costco son buenisimas y son baratas cc so no molesta botarlas despues!
@@1stfrompuertorico568 I used the low pile side of the Kirkland yellow microfibers for the initial bulk of the buffing and leveling, then switched over to the Shiney's Bull Shine Plush Edgeless for the final leveling. The Kirkland's are 365 GSM, and the Shiney's are 500 GSM, worked really well and I had no issues.
Bee Jay you do realize ethos coating works on any color paint right? And pan is paid by Glass Parency... not a review. Ethos has been vetted by many and it’s amazing
Completely understand, noone has done a video with black paint. Hence the reason why I choose that brand. And I also understand he as many other are paid by the brand. What sold me was it was a Honda with black paint which is what I have.
This graphene stuff is really hitting the market. Wonder how brands like Carpro and Gyeon are going to make use of it and what the results are going to be.
I'm also really curious to see if some of the more established coating manufacturers will try their take on it. There's definitely some skepticism about the viability of the chemistry right now, but it's still early on and it will be interesting to see if it lives up to the hype. I'll definitely keep you guys posted on how this Ethos coating performs.
Which one has the ceramic coating that is similar to Meguiars fast finish? Isn’t it Gyeon? Anyway, I’d almost expect them tho renew that, but with graphene instead. This coating stuff is wild these days. I cannot even imagine what comes after graphene, or what it’d be like.
I sent you a PM on Autogeek forum.How fast did it flash in your Florida heat and humidity ? Crazy beading angle will be interested to see how long it can bead like that with say just regular washes with Car Pro Reset .
Hey Doc, sorry I must have missed your message on the forum! This was actually fogging/sweating fairly shortly after applying it to the paint, around 30 seconds. And it was definitely a bit hotter and more humid in my garage compared to what most would be working with. On this panel I let the left half dry for 1 minute after applying, and then the right half between 2-3 minutes which is their recommended dry time before buffing/leveling. Felt just slightly more tacky to level out at 2-3 minutes compared to 1 minute, but during the cure everything felt the same slickness and I didn't notice a water behavior difference on the panel during the rinse. I'm stoked to see how this holds up as well, looking forward to getting those results in to show you guys.
Thanks, Waxmode. It seems that you only do great videos. But I have most of a bottle of Power Lock+ and Collinite 845. I don't want to toss them. It's clear, though, that Collinite doesn't begin to have these hydrophobic properties. That said, its beads are almost pornographic. Really, I take photos of my effen car after a rain. It's so embarrassing. My only reservation about the graphene product here is the degree of glow. I was unsure about the Carnauba glow until I saw it on my own car. It's not just hooey.
Yeah $99 is definitely up there compared to the CQuartz line. Still very competitive against some others like Gyeon Syncro, Gtechniq CSL and EXO combo. It's going to be very interesting to see how the Adam's Graphene compares at the 60ml size.
Not really...when you take into account that the ceramic offering typically require not only the coating, but a compatible topper (ie, CSL/exo, Ck3.o/Gliss, etc...) it’s actually cheaper. WRT time in application you’re spending less per vehicle also.
I have a bottle on the way. I'd love to ses the difference between this and the pro version. Not that I'm a professional so u wouldn't have access but I'd love to see the 2 compared to something like Artdeshine
Looks really good, I'm probably the wrong tester though to ask about looks because the majority of the test cars and panels I regularly cycle testing on are all difficult to highlight the nuances in the finish that particular products leave behind on the paint. I would say CQUK 3.0 has more of a darkening effect on the paint than Graphene Matrix, Gtechniq EXO as well. Graphene Matrix definitely has a nice glow to it, I'll be doing more measurements with the Rhopoint glossmeter after the first wash, and after a few more reapplications to confirm consistency in the measurements.
So are the claims about less waterspotting true? It would be great to do a test of this. Sunny hot, FL with it's hard water might make for an interesting comparison against an SiO2 product.
Hey qrt! I still need to do a lot more testing with this. Once I get the Ceramic matrix coating in I can start doing spotting tests side by side with Graphene matrix to see if it has an advantage.
Do you believe that we should wait until there are more graphene coatings on the market? Comments by users are either very positive or negative. I question whether the very negative comments are posted by very inexperienced users.
Yes the one I'm using in this video is definitely spray proof on a drop, but it's not the most comfortable sprayer to use regularly. I wish we could get this sprayer head with the center flood on their previous Gilmour nozzles that were loaded up with rubber on the grip and were way more comfortable. The sprayer in this video has a slight flow adjustment on the top, so when you're flooding or sheeting the water off the paint you can reduce the flow on the spot to prevent a little less nozzle overspray.
I saw a first wash after application of this coating on FAB detailing. I didn’t say anything, but the hydroponics looked to have dropped off somewhat on the hood. Just saying. 🤷🏻♂️
I'll definitely keep you guys posted on how it holds up on the Honda. PapaSmurf918 did a first wash on it in his channel and it looks like it held up really well.
I would love to test the Adam's Graphene coating in the future, both the paint and the spray coatings. I got great base layer durability out of the original first formula Adam's Ceramic Spray Coating, it crushed IGL Premier in the pure durability test. So I'm looking forward to seeing results from others for those products and hopefully I can get some more disposable cash to try them out myself later on.
Fusso is definitely close in hydrophobics, I'd have to put them up side by side to double check. Fusso Coat, Polymer Net Shield, CSL + EXO, Mohs + Skin, CQUK, Gliss V2, CC36, CanCoat, Graphene Matrix, all of these are pretty close to one another and are probably a few degrees difference in contact angles. Wolfgang Uber Spray Coating is up there too. Graphene Matrix combines a really good ease of use with awesome hydrophobic performance out of just the coating itself, so CSL and Mohs are pretty ease to work with while having good slickness, but you need the EXO and Skin topcoats to build up a good hydrophobic performance with those coatings, so that's where Graphene Matrix holds an advantage right now with the coatings that I've worked with.
I've been on the Fusso Coat + BSD as a topper camp for over 2 years. I think it's really hard to beat this combo in both value, ease of use and longevity. Plus, if you need to correct a panel before the next polishing session that can be achieved very quickly. No drama, no need for a garage, nothing. Also, providing that you stay on top of your maintenance wash and use an iron remover every 6 months, you won't need to clay the bodywork either when you decide to polish the car.
I'd be curious to see just how well the Graphene Matrix could stack over an existing ceramic coating. But the issue is you've got 30ml to work with for $99 which would only get you 2 coats max, so the best bet is to take the time to polish out the existing ceramic and apply the Ethos coating to the bare clearcoat to ensure the best surface for the coating to adhere to.
Not a big Ethos fan. They're more of a marketing company than a detail product company. They're basically Adam's products put out by B&B blending. I would think Adam's would have the better version.
Wait which paste wax was this! I still want to get my hands on Chemical Guys E-Zyme in the future. Chemical Guys of all things. But I'm a big fan of the discontinued Chemical Guys Classic Paste Wax and I'm really curious to see how E-Zyme stacks up against it. Still love Pinnacle Souveran and Wolfgang Fuzion, and my arrangement of Zymol paste waxes.
$99 too rich for me especially when new cars have tons of orange peel and thin clear coats. I'll stick with Meguiars Synthetic Spray Wax. stuff is amazing
Even though enthusiasts drool over new coatings it’s actually the people that don’t care to maintain their car that probably benefit the most from them (low maintenance paint protection that last years). I guess that’s why we get obsessed about what to top our coatings with 😅
The water “drying” the car being flooded was really cool!
I love to see it! Very effective way to manage the amount of water on the paint before drying. The Gilmour flood setting also makes this much easier to do without having to kink the hose and unscrew the nozzle and flow the water directly out of the hose itself.
Looking great! Performing as planned, cant wait to see the ongoing updates. Thanks WaxMode!
Hi Tim Coates! What's the recommendation for GSM towels to level out the coating?
Humberto Roche Garcia depends on the clear... if it’s soft I’d go with a plusher one. If it’s hard I like a short pile towel. I hope that helps
Cheers Tim! Definitely looking forward to seeing how it holds up, application went really well, very excited for what you're working on next!
That's the best!!! What a nice coating. I want to buy it right away and test it too!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That flooding water demo was crazy! I bought the Ethos Graphene coating... Just waiting for the weather to cool off a bit before application.
OK, you've sold me on the Gilmour nozzle. I have a pretty high end Gardena hose reel system, hose, and two types of nozzle's which I really like, but i'm getting one of those Gilmour nozzle's to put on it. Good gosh that is an awesome trick with that free running water shooting out the center of the nozzle! Looks like it leaves the panel almost dry. Of course, i'm sure that depends on what coating, wax, or sealant is one the panel also. I'm guessing some react better than others. But the way I keep my paint, it should work wonders on my cars. I've used a similar trick in the past, but I always had to unscrew the nozzle from the hose and then run the water across the panel. I love the fact you can just rotate the head and it converts to the center flowing stream. I'll be getting one of those later tonight.
Awesome water test! I am seeing the same results on my daughters car. You are right it is the easiest coating I have applied also. I bought that Gilmour nozzle and can’t wait to use it.
Thanks FAB! Right now I haven't used a coating that matches the level of ease of use, end slickness, and initial hydrophobic performance that Graphene Matrix offers out of a single coating system that doesn't require a separate topcoat product. Really stoked to see just how well this holds up, and it looked absolutely fantastic on the Fusion you applied it to!
I've got a little bit of a collection building up of those Gilmour nozzles for the different versions they sell, that rear trigger one that you picked up has lasted surprisingly long for me with heavy usage. Wish they made them just a bit more comfortable though, the previous gen Gilmour nozzles had that fantastic thicker rubber grip that was so comfortable, I want those with the watering face of these newer ones with the center flood.
WaxMode Time to get a hold of Gilmour and give them your idea! They might send you a lifetime supply. 😂
I did 2 cars recently and wow it was sooo easy to apply this coating and remove it! Usually ceramic coatings are a pain.
That's good to hear Dave, loving the ease of use here. I used it today on the fenders of the Honda at 116°F surface temps and had no issues with wipeability. Keep me posted on its durability if you can!
That’s just insane! No need for a drying towel. Thanks for sharing. I have the Glassparency graphene coating. Can’t wait to see if my results compared to that of Pan the Organizer’s!!
Definitely keep me posted on that GlassParency coating and how it holds up for you Al, really interested to see what it can do.
Very impressive product for sure and the hydrophobic properties were VERY nice! Great video! 🐝
Hydrophobic properties are insane!! Another product on the list. Thanks waxmode.
I'm addicted to that beading!
All we need to know now is how long it lasts. Thanks waxmode for your work!
That performance is insane
Looks excellent. Looking forward to long term durability results. The price point isn’t really that bad if the durability holds up to ceramic offerings. Prices will also surely dip when the market fills with competing products.
Awesome review as always. Hydrophobics are insane! Can't wait to see how long the real world durability is going to be. So far from every video I've seen on this product thus far, it looks like Ethos may have knocked this one out of the park.
Thanks Idtriton, always good to see you in the comments! It's definitely early, but first impressions are great for this coating. Worked really well for me today on even hotter temperature paint, I'm not having any issues with wipeability. So that combination of ease of use, slickness, and amazing initial hydrophobic performance is definitely at the top of the list for the coatings I've used so far. Ethos also has phenomenal brand aesthetics, labels are well designed, I'll be saving this bottle for the shelf for sure.
@@WaxMode Thanks man I appreciate that!
I was looking forward to this! I think I'll just polish off the CQUK 3.0 and try this at this point... The coating's already around the 1 year mark and I'm sure it would perform the same a few more years down the line with my maintenance but I just get bored quickly and love trying out new things.
I think you'll enjoy working with it! Definitely an easier wipe off and leveling compared to CQUK 3.0. The only question is whether or not it can really match or exceed CQUK's outstanding hydrophobic durability, and fantastic cooperation with a variety of different toppers. Keep me posted on what you decide to go with!
Loving the content dude, keep it up. Have you ever thought about doing more standardised testing? I know your thoughts on gloss meters but have you tried measuring contact angle or sheeting angles?
You’re the only guy on youtube doing long term real world testing of detailing products, love your work!
Thanks David, it would definitely be fun to get into more standardized testing at some point! Still want to get my hands on one of Rhopoint's IQ model glossmeters to better measure paint clarity with different abrasives. I haven't spent much time at all seeing if I could accurately capture contact angle measurements and sliding angles, definitely would be interesting to see if I could do so. Would absolutely love to dive into UV resistance measuring at some point as well.
Make sure you check out Mike G's channel as well, he does a lot of long term durability tests with different coatings on the market for how they hold up on his test cars: ruclips.net/channel/UCmHXtYCsChkg04tvdwCzHvw
@@WaxMode Thanks for the reccomendation Wax, I'll definitely check out what Mike G is doing. Reading about the Rhopoint, the fact that it can measure orangepeel and haze from poor coating curing is insane, I'd love to see that haha. I feel like you could pretty easily test UV, just leave a test panel outside in a greenhouse for a few months. Contact angle is just taking a macro photo from a side view and drawing digital lines on the image to find the angle. Sliding angle would be a bit more involved but still easy, would just need to setup a small tilt table of some kind. 3 min video if you're curious: ruclips.net/video/RyH_fCSNKtg/видео.html
All of these tests are unpractical with full size car panels, but if you could get multiple uniform flat 4"x4" painted and clear coated squares, it would be easier. Your gloss measurements would be consistent, and you could put your test panels indoors under a window or small (cheap) lights for UV.
I know it is a lot for just one guy to do/afford, but if you have already been thinking about it, it would be very cool to see quantitative measurements in an industry that is full of hyped up and subjective reviews. It's why I love your reviews, you compare lots of coatings at once, and do long term real world testing which helps to make an informed decision. If you would like advice, my background is in automotive component reliability lab-testing (condensing years of real world testing into a few months of intensive tests), I'd be happy to chat about it if you'd like to. Keep up the good work.
Will be interesting to hear and perhaps show how the car shows the early morning dew. Same beading and does it self dry when you drive it afterwards. Guess we cannot discuss on AG forum
I was stoked to see this review. I like this product better than the other graphene products on the market. I’m curious how Defy would work as a topper?
Great review and I cannot wait to see the long term performance.
Thanks Neil! Ethos recommends Defy as the maintenance topper for the coating, I'll begin testing toppers once I give the coating a bit more time to cure, but I've had good results with both Defy and Ceramic Refresh on their Ceramic Wax Pro, so I might do some test sections with these two side by side in the future on the Graphene Matrix Coating.
WaxMode this would be an awesome comparison. It’s a big decision trying to see what product to marry for the next five years!
It's like all the pro's of ceramic with none of the cons.
For a single product system, this is looking good at the very start, but it's definitely early and I'll need the results of the durability test to confirm just how good this coating can last. CQUK 3.0 is very good, fantastic price and crazy durable, also a single product system that doesn't need the topcoat for hydrophobic durability, but lacking in the slickness and ease of use that most first time coating users would want to have.
That balance of ease of use and slickness and incredible fresh hydrophobic performance is what this Graphene Matrix Coating offers from the start, so if it can hold up on the daily driver, then that would be awesome.
That is insane, would love to get my hands on some
Shout out to Tim for making this video possible. This coating need topper, or can go flat out without it?
I'll let you know once I get more time with it, but with the very fresh performance this looks amazing and I wouldn't want to top it yet like I would if I was working with Gtechniq Crystal Serum Light or Gyeon Mohs. Ethos has this rated as a 5+ year coating, and most coatings out there will eventually lose hydrophobic performance over the months or years but I'll be looking to see how quickly this happens on the Honda.
@@WaxMode I'm waiting patiently for the graphene spray coating war to begin 😊. I think the graphene infused maintenance products, toppers that can be used as stand alone protection or on top of another sealant will drive consumers nuts. Coatings are just not as attractive to consumers in my opinion as the spray on/wipe off products that will be coming soon.
Carlos, we have very interesting findings when it comes to hydrophobicity long term. Its a little complicated to explain over text so we'll probably be making a video about it or explain this to WaxMode so he would be able to translate better to his viewers.
Long story short, things are looking good for long term hydrophobics.
Wow the coating looks great! I would love to see you test out more graphene based products. Trying to decide if it’s worth trying over sio2.
Cheers Gabe, I definitely need to get my hands on some more. The Adam's Graphene line is one that I think I will try to get my hands on next. CQUK is still a fantastic coating, if the Graphene Matrix can be competitive in hydrophobic durability, you would just need to figure out if the better ease of use and slickness is worth the additional cost. For me, I think where I'm at with the coatings is I'm going to have a desire to actually want to polish the paint out well before the coatings fully tire out since I'm addicted to paint polishing.
Awesome.
You should try Adams Graphene Spray Ceramic. I have it on my car and its amazing. The water beading is similar to this.
John keep me posted on the shelf life for that spray coating. I tried pulling out the first version of the Adam's Ceramic Spray Coating and it wasn't playing as nicely as when I first tested it, and then my Wolfgang Uber Ceramic Spray Coating is not playing as nicely anymore as well. But absolutely, I want to get my hands on the Adam's Graphene coatings to work with in the future. That 60ml size for the $80 is definitely a competitive price if it holds up well.
Really looking forward to your updates on durability on this product. Looked at it several times and considering placing it in my arsenal of offerings. Curious of how Beadmaker would react as a topper.
That stuff looks awesome. Definitely going to get some.
I too just recently used a graphene coating. Very nice , mine ( can’t say which don’t want no hate ) flashed really fast. So I had to work in smaller areas. I also figured out the timing and then it was easy on easy off just smaller areas. Looks like a topper , it’s a four or five year coating. I only dropped one coat maybe I’ll try another. Good video.
Cheers Amir! You can let us know which coating you're working with, I like to get a feel for what others are using to keep track of feedback for products that I might use in the future. Keep me posted on its durability if you can!
WaxMode I will , I’m currently in my first week of testing and after it’s first wash I noticed a change in water repellency. Application was ome coat , it was hella hot outside ( I work outside for the most part ) and it was no more than the 2 by 2 sections applied and as soon as you laid it down 2 seconds later you wiped it off. After the first wash it’s not the big giant sperm looking beads but better than ceramic beads none the less. Also several rains and not one water spot . I also topped it with a light detailer ( I know I shouldn’t have ) to see how it would behave and the big beads are back. When I know more I’ll holla at you bro.
Waxmooode!!! Missed you in my live yesterday man! So excited to see this video pop up! Insanely addicting hydrophobics for sure. 👍👍 how'd you like application?? I look forward to keeping up with durability updates for sure. Tim killed it with this stuff! Always a pleasure brother🤝🤙
PapaSmurf! Sorry I missed out on the live yesterday, I was watching the end of the Indy race and then had to finish up applying the second coat to the Honda. Application was great on this coating, definitely easier to level out compared to the three CQuartz coatings that I've used, I think Gyeon Mohs is easier but Mohs doesn't have this level of fresh hydrophobic performance that Graphene Matrix has. Can't wait to see how well this coating holds up!
@@WaxMode What was the GSM of the microfiber towels you used to level it out?
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@@WaxMode haha all good my friend!!! I knew you were up to something fun!! Lol Awesome.. I need to get that carpro lite out already!! Had to cancel a detail yesterday due to the ash and smoke from all the fires.. hoping to do it this weekend! 👍👍Graphene Matrix definitely outstanding hydrophobics!👍
@@1stfrompuertorico568 Usa las de costco amarillas que eso brega al 100 pa quitar coatings. Me gusta usar una con el "short nap" afuera para el primer wipe y otra con el lado fluffy pa'fuera para el segundo wipe. Las toallas de Costco son buenisimas y son baratas cc so no molesta botarlas despues!
@@1stfrompuertorico568 I used the low pile side of the Kirkland yellow microfibers for the initial bulk of the buffing and leveling, then switched over to the Shiney's Bull Shine Plush Edgeless for the final leveling. The Kirkland's are 365 GSM, and the Shiney's are 500 GSM, worked really well and I had no issues.
Amazing. I was going to get ethos but ended up getting glass parency grahphebe kit.
Any reason?
@@henryfreeman6113 yeah pan the organizer did a review on it on a black Honda which i have and I was sold by that aspect.
Bee Jay you do realize ethos coating works on any color paint right? And pan is paid by Glass Parency... not a review. Ethos has been vetted by many and it’s amazing
Completely understand, noone has done a video with black paint. Hence the reason why I choose that brand. And I also understand he as many other are paid by the brand. What sold me was it was a Honda with black paint which is what I have.
Cheers Bee Jay, definitely let me know how that GlassParency Graphene coating works out for you!
Great demo. Good job. Many thanks.
Thanks Simon!
I'd love to know how prone it is to water spots. Graphene is suppose to have great resistance to them. Keep us posted!
Check this short clip out: ruclips.net/video/I_BQUmahGrI/видео.html
Absolutely fantastic. Got a bottle of this just waiting to go on a vehicle.
Awesome, definitely be sure to let me know how it works out for you and your initial thoughts when you get your chance to try it out!
You literally dried the panel with water! 😂. Ethos graphene is really standing above the others out there!
This graphene stuff is really hitting the market. Wonder how brands like Carpro and Gyeon are going to make use of it and what the results are going to be.
I'm also really curious to see if some of the more established coating manufacturers will try their take on it. There's definitely some skepticism about the viability of the chemistry right now, but it's still early on and it will be interesting to see if it lives up to the hype. I'll definitely keep you guys posted on how this Ethos coating performs.
Which one has the ceramic coating that is similar to Meguiars fast finish? Isn’t it Gyeon? Anyway, I’d almost expect them tho renew that, but with graphene instead. This coating stuff is wild these days. I cannot even imagine what comes after graphene, or what it’d be like.
I sent you a PM on Autogeek forum.How fast did it flash in your Florida heat and humidity ? Crazy beading angle will be interested to see how long it can bead like that with say just regular washes with Car Pro Reset .
Hey Doc, sorry I must have missed your message on the forum! This was actually fogging/sweating fairly shortly after applying it to the paint, around 30 seconds. And it was definitely a bit hotter and more humid in my garage compared to what most would be working with.
On this panel I let the left half dry for 1 minute after applying, and then the right half between 2-3 minutes which is their recommended dry time before buffing/leveling. Felt just slightly more tacky to level out at 2-3 minutes compared to 1 minute, but during the cure everything felt the same slickness and I didn't notice a water behavior difference on the panel during the rinse.
I'm stoked to see how this holds up as well, looking forward to getting those results in to show you guys.
Thanks, Waxmode. It seems that you only do great videos.
But I have most of a bottle of Power Lock+ and Collinite 845. I don't want to toss them.
It's clear, though, that Collinite doesn't begin to have these hydrophobic properties. That said, its beads are almost pornographic. Really, I take photos of my effen car after a rain. It's so embarrassing.
My only reservation about the graphene product here is the degree of glow. I was unsure about the Carnauba glow until I saw it on my own car. It's not just hooey.
Impressive, lets see durability now. $99 though, out of my price range, too bad.
Yeah $99 is definitely up there compared to the CQuartz line. Still very competitive against some others like Gyeon Syncro, Gtechniq CSL and EXO combo. It's going to be very interesting to see how the Adam's Graphene compares at the 60ml size.
Not really...when you take into account that the ceramic offering typically require not only the coating, but a compatible topper (ie, CSL/exo, Ck3.o/Gliss, etc...) it’s actually cheaper. WRT time in application you’re spending less per vehicle also.
@@FrankieKennethL out of MY price range as in I cant afford that price
Awesome video
Thanks so much Mike!
I have a bottle on the way. I'd love to ses the difference between this and the pro version. Not that I'm a professional so u wouldn't have access but I'd love to see the 2 compared to something like Artdeshine
Wild!
AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!! With regards to looks, how does it compare to say Gyeon Can Coat, UK3.0, top quality waxes and the best ceramic coats????
Looks really good, I'm probably the wrong tester though to ask about looks because the majority of the test cars and panels I regularly cycle testing on are all difficult to highlight the nuances in the finish that particular products leave behind on the paint. I would say CQUK 3.0 has more of a darkening effect on the paint than Graphene Matrix, Gtechniq EXO as well. Graphene Matrix definitely has a nice glow to it, I'll be doing more measurements with the Rhopoint glossmeter after the first wash, and after a few more reapplications to confirm consistency in the measurements.
Thank you for your review.
Beads water great tfs buddy
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Blazing fast speed!
Awesome bro!! 😎👍🏼
So are the claims about less waterspotting true? It would be great to do a test of this. Sunny hot, FL with it's hard water might make for an interesting comparison against an SiO2 product.
Hey qrt! I still need to do a lot more testing with this. Once I get the Ceramic matrix coating in I can start doing spotting tests side by side with Graphene matrix to see if it has an advantage.
Do you believe that we should wait until there are more graphene coatings on the market? Comments by users are either very positive or negative. I question whether the very negative comments are posted by very inexperienced users.
This has no ceramic in it ? How is the surface ? is it geting hardness or is ist slick ?
adams at 79.99 would be my go to..99 for 30ml vs 79 for 60ml.
Is that Gilmour spray proof, because the trigger is on the inside, when you drop it on the drive?
Yes the one I'm using in this video is definitely spray proof on a drop, but it's not the most comfortable sprayer to use regularly. I wish we could get this sprayer head with the center flood on their previous Gilmour nozzles that were loaded up with rubber on the grip and were way more comfortable. The sprayer in this video has a slight flow adjustment on the top, so when you're flooding or sheeting the water off the paint you can reduce the flow on the spot to prevent a little less nozzle overspray.
I saw a first wash after application of this coating on FAB detailing. I didn’t say anything, but the hydroponics looked to have dropped off somewhat on the hood. Just saying. 🤷🏻♂️
I'll definitely keep you guys posted on how it holds up on the Honda. PapaSmurf918 did a first wash on it in his channel and it looks like it held up really well.
I'm pretty sure that was application/prep error.
Andres Rivera that did cross my mind.
WaxMode real world test?
I’d love to see this put up against Adam’s Graphene coating !
I would love to test the Adam's Graphene coating in the future, both the paint and the spray coatings. I got great base layer durability out of the original first formula Adam's Ceramic Spray Coating, it crushed IGL Premier in the pure durability test. So I'm looking forward to seeing results from others for those products and hopefully I can get some more disposable cash to try them out myself later on.
WaxMode thanks a lot !
Better than fusso?!?!?!?
Fusso is definitely close in hydrophobics, I'd have to put them up side by side to double check. Fusso Coat, Polymer Net Shield, CSL + EXO, Mohs + Skin, CQUK, Gliss V2, CC36, CanCoat, Graphene Matrix, all of these are pretty close to one another and are probably a few degrees difference in contact angles. Wolfgang Uber Spray Coating is up there too.
Graphene Matrix combines a really good ease of use with awesome hydrophobic performance out of just the coating itself, so CSL and Mohs are pretty ease to work with while having good slickness, but you need the EXO and Skin topcoats to build up a good hydrophobic performance with those coatings, so that's where Graphene Matrix holds an advantage right now with the coatings that I've worked with.
I've been on the Fusso Coat + BSD as a topper camp for over 2 years. I think it's really hard to beat this combo in both value, ease of use and longevity. Plus, if you need to correct a panel before the next polishing session that can be achieved very quickly. No drama, no need for a garage, nothing. Also, providing that you stay on top of your maintenance wash and use an iron remover every 6 months, you won't need to clay the bodywork either when you decide to polish the car.
Insane
Would I have to strip off my existing ceramic coating and then add the graphene coating ?
I'd be curious to see just how well the Graphene Matrix could stack over an existing ceramic coating. But the issue is you've got 30ml to work with for $99 which would only get you 2 coats max, so the best bet is to take the time to polish out the existing ceramic and apply the Ethos coating to the bare clearcoat to ensure the best surface for the coating to adhere to.
Maybe I should rephrase that comment. Users are either hating or loving the Adams Graphene Coating.
Not a big Ethos fan. They're more of a marketing company than a detail product company. They're basically Adam's products put out by B&B blending. I would think Adam's would have the better version.
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imagine adding bsd on top
Beading is nice but longevity and user friendliness matters to a noob like me.
Man i just purchased this $250 ... high quality paste wax ... 🤦♂️
Wait which paste wax was this! I still want to get my hands on Chemical Guys E-Zyme in the future. Chemical Guys of all things. But I'm a big fan of the discontinued Chemical Guys Classic Paste Wax and I'm really curious to see how E-Zyme stacks up against it. Still love Pinnacle Souveran and Wolfgang Fuzion, and my arrangement of Zymol paste waxes.
@@WaxMode ... its Chemical guys CELESTE V2 PASTE WAX its like $200 plus dollars . But I got it on sale for $171 ...
those are some tight beads, toite
$99 too rich for me especially when new cars have tons of orange peel and thin clear coats. I'll stick with Meguiars Synthetic Spray Wax. stuff is amazing
Even though enthusiasts drool over new coatings it’s actually the people that don’t care to maintain their car that probably benefit the most from them (low maintenance paint protection that last years). I guess that’s why we get obsessed about what to top our coatings with 😅
Beadporn LOL