Very impressive for someone who doesn't use the Vienna horn on a daily basis...and was not brought up in its tradition. Makes a great horn to play on from time to time just to remind us to use that quick and consistent air. very nice!
As an amateur horn player (also based in Philly actually), the idea of someday getting my hands on a vienna horn is a distant dream, but man, that must have been so much fun!
Those are so cool! I think the crook part is supposed to be on top, like if you rotate it up 180° it's supposed to be like that I think. Nice sound too. Glad you got a hold of one lol
Very cool indeed! Actually the crook under--the way I have it is correct; it can be confirmed looking at the Vienna Philharmonic hornists. Thanks for watching
@@andrewstump6138 Oh ok, my apologies. I've been looking at those lately and it seems like some have an under crook and some have an over crook based on the manufacturer, apparently I found they're not all the same lol.
It's wonderful to see that North American players are getting excited about the Wiener Horn. My introduction to them was when I studied music in Vienna in the 1980s(I'm a Canadian-US bassoonist). I found the Wiener horns blend better with the woodwinds, and can produce a tremendous amount of sound as well. There's a roundness in the soft dynamics that it think is wonderful. The Viennese players I played with could do anything that a modern (french)horn player could do.....with that wonderful sound.
Agreed! It's so much more expressive and musical of an instrument than the more modern double horn. It's my dream to play this instrument professionally if I ever get the chance one day
Nicely done! I think I had occasion to play a Vienna Horn once or twice at music shows in the 1970s/1980s, but never had the chance to explore one for weeks on end. I agree with your observations: it's a unique and historical instrument, with a distinct sound. I'd love to own one, and experiment with it as you have. Thank you so much for sharing your experiences! And you're obviously a very talented young musician: best wishes to you, wherever your career leads you! 😀
I agree, it's certainly a very special instrument! I wish I could have had it longer, I miss it very much. I'm so glad you enjoyed, thanks for watching!
Dear Andrew! Thank you for this wonderful video and your contribution to the old tradition of Vienna and the Vienna Horn. I am not a professional horn-player, but an ambitious enthusiastic amateur. I was born in Vienna and lives in Vienna, and - of course - I have a Vienna horn. A wonderful instrument. I love it. Currently I am concerned with learning the tradition horn-playing of the famous horn-player of the Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra, Gottfried von Freiberg One of my horn-teachers was student by Mr. Veleba, who was one of the last students of Gottfried von Freiberg here in Vienna. I hope your graduation went well. With greetings from Vienna, Michael!
Wow that’s fantastic Michael! Sometime I hope to visit Vienna, as I’ve heard it’s so beautiful, and I want to study the Vienna horn with a great teacher as well, as the American tradition of horn playing is so very different. I hope you keep at your horn playing, and have a wonderful time with it!
Dear Andrew, Even though I subscribed to your channel a long time ago this is the 1st video I’ve ever watched. I am 69 years old and was an amateur bass trombone player over the years. I began horn lessons in August 2016 on a regular F horn and now play on a Holton double horn. However, for a few years I’ve desired to own a Vienna horn and to learn how to play on it. I am not a good horn player but the sound of the Vienna horn is so wonderfully captivating and unique that I would like to own one and play it as best that I can. Even good used Vienna horns can be somewhat difficult to find and, although not as expensive as a brand new one, are usually still expensive. Thank you for recording this video. Please, continue to create more Vienna horn videos in the future. I and many others would appreciate being more educated about this beautiful instrument. 👍🏻👌🏻👏🏻📯
Hey Steve, thank you so much! I'm so glad you enjoyed the video, and that's wonderful you are inspired to explore the Vienna horn! I really really want to keep make more Vienna horn content and perform on the instrument a lot, I'm just limited now because I can't afford one, and I've now graduated from Curtis and no longer have access to the beautiful instrument in this video. But I'm saving up for one, and I hope it won't be too long! It's so great to see someone at your stage in life still excited about learning new musical things and new instruments, it's super inspiring to youngsters like me! I wish you the best of luck in your horn journey.
Hello Andrew you do play a wonderful sound on your Engel. The new vienna horns (Yamaha, Jungwirth) do not sound so big, but are easier to play and elegantely and more flexible. But you will sound great on all Vienna horns. Best wishes 📯😎
Great video!! Congratulations on your playing! I´m very glad to hear your thoughts. I agree with them! I´ve played double horn professionally my whole career but It´s already seven years now that I too have the fortune of owning and playing in orchestra a Vienna horn Yamaha 601. (depending on the works and players I alternate them). Ever since I´ve tried a vienna horn for the first time from a collegue in Vienna, it has created an unexplainable joy for the sound and the way of playing it... it has definetely changed my way of playing, feeling of the sound and phrases, and definetely did expanded my teaching method at the music conservatory by including F-horn playing with double horns in all of the musical range, even though it may not be used aterwards in orchestra. For me, Vienna horn playing is like coming back to the roots of bravery playing, creating sound within the sound that multiplies it self as you expand it. Such a joy. Please if possible do follow your goal of playing professionaly with it!
Thank you so much! That's so great to hear that you have been able to incorporate the vienna horn into your playing career! It's a wonderful instrument indeed. Since I graduated from the Curtis Institute of Music a year ago, I of course had to give this beautiful horn back to the school when I left, so I haven't had the chance to play a Vienna horn since then and I miss it sorely. It's also now so impossible for me to afford a new instrument, much less a good vienna horn, but I'll always one day dream if being able to have one.
Hi Andrew, grewing up in Austria and currently residing in Vienna (and hobby horn player) I found your video very exciting. I think you explained it very well - I see it the same way when it comes to special qualities of this instrument (we even consider the Vienna Horn to have this kind of "juice"). Probably you already heard of the band "Vienna Horns" but they are awesome players where you can hear the different types of playing styles and tone. BTW - You got the sound really sounding Viennese - I think American playing style is quite compatible with this horn. Best wishes Mathias
Hi Mathias, wow that’s fantastic! So awesome to hear from someone who knows the Vienna horn! Yes I have heard of the group, they are so amazing. Thank you so much! Honestly I feel like the American style is extremely different from the Vienna style, and I radically changed the whole approach to how I move air and articulation in order to match the sound I’ve listened to in recordings; and of course I still have a long way to go to truly achieve it. But it was so much fun! Thanks for watching!
Amazing instruments indeed. I wish they were a little more easy to come by... the ones you can get are either custom instruments from a handful of manufacturers or endlessly expensive relics of the past. Cheers from austria!
Dear Andrew, if you're interested, and I'm fairly sure you are, you can see the workshops of Robert Engel on RUclips. The business is no longer in existence due to mounting manufacturing costs, but it was still operational in the early 90s, I believe, and the RUclips clip shows his staff making these Vienna Horns and other instruments. I recognised your instrument as an Engel by its particular configuration so I wondered if you knew the manufacturer or not. Anyway, tune in to RUclips and enjoy ! Oh yes, your rendition of Heldenleben was awesome by the way! I used to play Horn so I know what I'm talking about !!
Oh cool, I will definitely check out those videos! Yes I did know the horn was made by him as I mentioned in the video, but I know very little about him. Such a shame he had to stop production! Thanks so much for the kind words, glaf you enjoyed the video!
@@andrewstump6138 You're very welcome. Glad to be of help. I've loved watching the craftsmen at their work. It was quite a demanding process - needing both muscle and delicacy !
Dear Andrew, You are an amazing musician with your talent to play so many instruments so well. I am 69 years old and a former amateur bass trombone player. I began taking horn lessons in 2016 when I was 65. I am not a good horn player and I have trouble recognizing the correct written pitches and hitting the correct written pitches because the harmonics are so close together, unlike the bass trombone. But I want to get better at playing the horn. I have been interested in the Vienna horn for some years and have done some research into them just to learn more about them. Someday, I, too, would like to own a Vienna horn but even a good used one can be expensive but that’s probably only what I can afford in time. One of the Vienna horn makers I’ve research a bit is Jiracek from Europe. Have you ever heard of this Vienna horn maker? If you ever get a chance to try out a Jiracek Vienna horn I would be very interested in hearing what you would have to say about this maker and about the Vienna horn that they produce. I will have to write you again and give you the model number of their Vienna horn, however, I think that Jiracek produces only 1 model anyway. But I will check it anyway and let you know. Thank you for this video and for the content of your many other videos. God bless you! Sincerely, Steve Logan👍🏻📯
Hi Steve, thank you so much! I have heard of the Jiracek horn but I don’t know much about it, I would be very curious to try one! It actually looks somewhat reasonably priced at €5000. Even that price point is not an option for me now, but I’m always hoping to save up for it! I wish you all the best in your horn playing journey, I hope you get much enjoyment out of it!
Super video. Hope I have the opportunity to try, or even own a Vienna horn. I’m just a novice player, with some community concert band experience, and now desire to further develop in various aspects of playing. Some professionals have said that spending time on a natural horn is the best way to reach “next level” to become fully competent. Your thoughts Andrew?
Thank you! I do agree to an extent, as the natural horn exposes some things the modern valve horn hides, and it also encourages more nuanced playing. I think the Vienna horn is the ultimate horn in many ways, all the beauty and delicacy of the natural horn, but with just three valves to make it chromatic and capable of playing any music. I wish to own one someday
@andrewstump6138 Thank you for your thoughtful reply. I welcome any suggestions on sourcing a new Natural horn in the U.S. Perhaps Prof Seraphinoff is still manufacturing them? By the way, I just happen to own 2 Yamahas. One Kruspe and one Geyer. I am curious how RUclips algorithms seemed to know!
Great explanation, congrats also to your playing! There are also modern versions of this instrument made by Yamaha or Jungwirth. Also The Tonkünstler Orchestra and the Vienna Symphony Orchestra use Vienna horns. I strongly recommend the channel of Peter Dorfmayr , Vienna Symphony Solo Horn player, to understand the sound concept, wich also includes different mouthpiece size and right hand position.
Thanks very much! Yes I've seen the Jungwirth and Yamaha horns, I've heard they are very good. Astronomically expensive though😅. I will certainly check out Peter Dorfmayr for sure! I really hope to get to play a Vienna horn professionally someday, that would be a dream
Your Horn sound is really great! I absolutely love it. I gues you don't use a Vienna mouthpiece? Wish that you will have the opportunity to play the Vienna horn further on in your future career. Greetings from Germany
Thank you very much! No I do not have access to a Vienna mouthpiece unfortunately, so little information to even get started here in the U.S. it’s all just boring double horn here. But I also hope to play Vienna horn in the future as well whenever there is opportunity!
@@andrewstump6138 For what it's worth, you sound as if you are using a Vienna mouthpiece. I used a Paxman 4C for many years on my Conn28d. The F side of that almost imitated a Vienna horn at times. I now have a Haagston Wienerhorn as a pet ! I don't play in public any more as I'm 71 but I still enjoy a tootle at home. The Viennese mouthpiece will make a difference. It'll take getting used to but it's worth the trip !
Andrew, thank you for sharing so much information about the Vienna Horn. I learned a lot. I enjoyed hearing you play as well. I hope that you are able to find a Vienna Horn of your own in the near future! I didn't realize you were graduating so soon. For some reason, I thought you had just recently started there. I'm not sure why I thought that. Did you go to another school before going to Curtis Institute of Music? I think with all the craziness of the past couple of years, I've lost track of time. It's been weird. :) Thank you again for sharing this with us! Tell your Mom I said hi. I've missed seeing her over the past several years.
Thank you so much, I’m so glad you enjoyed it! Yeah it’s crazy how quickly my time has gone by, I started at Curtis in 2018, and am about to finish a 4-year Bachelor degree. This is the first music school I have attended so far, as I graduated high school in 2017, and then took a gap year before going to Curtis. We all have missed you guys as well! I certainly will tell my folks you said hi :)
@@andrewstump6138 i’m not a horn player but i’ve researched vienna horn some and i couldn’t find some awhile back but i looked yesterday and found that yamaha apparently makes them
@ppebis nade Yes you're right, Yamaha does make one, the YHR-601 model. I'm not convinced that would be the best choice though, I would imagine a handmade Austian one would be better. My dream is to own a Vienna horn made by Andreas Jungwirth; his work is exquisite.
@@ppebisnade5592 There are basically 2 big producers whose instruments are played in Vienna - Yamaha (which bought a traditional Viennese brass manufacturer) and Jungwirth Horns. Additionally there is Engelbert Schmid who got into Vienna Horn production more recently. Older ones include Engel, Ganter, Pizka, Wiener Produktivgenossenschaft etc. But still rather small companies/manufacturers.
@@andrewstump6138 Hi, personally I also prefer Jungwirth Horns - they have a small workshop in Lower Austria not far from Vienna. If you buy one, it would make sense to visit their shop and try several horns and take the one which fits best for you. You can then combine it with visiting concerts in Vienna and similar activities 🙂
Right on! Congrats, you’re really taking to it. BTW, in case you’re not aware of it hi Bb is fingered 23, as is hi C (sounding Eb and F) and B natural is fingered with 1. On the Vienna Horn. You should find these more stable. LMK how it goes. Sounds great so far - keep up the good work.
Wow I didn't know that! Unfortunately since this horn is not mine I had to give it back shortly after this video was recorded. No knowing when I'll get a chance to try a Vienna horn again, since I don't have the money to afford my own, but it's a dream of mine to have one one day!
@@andrewstump6138 👍 Best of luck - it's a great instrument to practice on for fine tuning the embouchure and general sound concept. In the meantime here's an exciting rendition of "Back to the Future" by "The Vienna Horns", players from the Vienna Phil, Vienna Symphony and other local orchestras: ruclips.net/video/jnFl1q0IYTA/видео.html
For the Vienna horn here I’m using a Holton MDC with a plastic Laskey copy rim, it is not a good mouthpiece and makes it hard to play, but it’s the closest I have to the proper shape for the Vienna horn, the most funnel-shaped
@@andrewstump6138 Hi Andrew thanks for your info and your compliment. Seriously, , all what you need to do is to take your mouthpiece jump into the plain and fly to Vienna, Salzburg or Linz, you are most welcome to join us we are playing Vienna Horn Quartett every Sunday evening, I also have a Jungwirth horn for you to play no need to carry instrument with you ;) Just let me know upfront Kind regards Alex
I appreciate it so much, thank you, . Someday when I have the money for a plane ticket and am not so busy, I would love to go over and visit! Keep up the great playing📯
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Very impressive for someone who doesn't use the Vienna horn on a daily basis...and was not brought up in its tradition. Makes a great horn to play on from time to time just to remind us to use that quick and consistent air. very nice!
Thank you so much! It’s a joy to play on, and I miss playing it so much. If I had my way I would switch to Vienna horn exclusively, it’s so wonderful
Anyone who says “super-duper excited” is immediately someone I can trust. Love the video, especially that Mahler
Hahaha love that!😄 thank you so much, glad you enjoyed!
I love the sound of the Viennese single F horn. It's like a valve-less 'natural' horn, but with valves for the full chromatic scale.
yes I agree! I love it's sound so much too
At 78 ,I still play a single F horn in a band. Notes above G are risky ,however the sound is great.
indeed! with enough confidence it can be the most beautiful and expressive sound
@@andrewstump6138 ppp
As an amateur horn player (also based in Philly actually), the idea of someday getting my hands on a vienna horn is a distant dream, but man, that must have been so much fun!
How cool! Yes, would be a dream for me too, I had this horn for such a short time, and I still miss it, would love to play a Vienna horn again.
Those are so cool! I think the crook part is supposed to be on top, like if you rotate it up 180° it's supposed to be like that I think. Nice sound too. Glad you got a hold of one lol
Very cool indeed! Actually the crook under--the way I have it is correct; it can be confirmed looking at the Vienna Philharmonic hornists. Thanks for watching
@@andrewstump6138 Oh ok, my apologies. I've been looking at those lately and it seems like some have an under crook and some have an over crook based on the manufacturer, apparently I found they're not all the same lol.
That very well could be!
It's wonderful to see that North American players are getting excited about the Wiener Horn. My introduction to them was when I studied music in Vienna in the 1980s(I'm a Canadian-US bassoonist). I found the Wiener horns blend better with the woodwinds, and can produce a tremendous amount of sound as well. There's a roundness in the soft dynamics that it think is wonderful. The Viennese players I played with could do anything that a modern (french)horn player could do.....with that wonderful sound.
Agreed! It's so much more expressive and musical of an instrument than the more modern double horn. It's my dream to play this instrument professionally if I ever get the chance one day
Nicely done! I think I had occasion to play a Vienna Horn once or twice at music shows in the 1970s/1980s, but never had the chance to explore one for weeks on end. I agree with your observations: it's a unique and historical instrument, with a distinct sound. I'd love to own one, and experiment with it as you have. Thank you so much for sharing your experiences! And you're obviously a very talented young musician: best wishes to you, wherever your career leads you! 😀
I agree, it's certainly a very special instrument! I wish I could have had it longer, I miss it very much. I'm so glad you enjoyed, thanks for watching!
Dear Andrew!
Thank you for this wonderful video and your contribution to the old tradition of Vienna and the Vienna Horn.
I am not a professional horn-player, but an ambitious enthusiastic amateur.
I was born in Vienna and lives in Vienna, and - of course - I have a Vienna horn. A wonderful instrument. I love it.
Currently I am concerned with learning the tradition horn-playing of the famous horn-player of the Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra, Gottfried von Freiberg
One of my horn-teachers was student by Mr. Veleba, who was one of the last students of Gottfried von Freiberg here in Vienna.
I hope your graduation went well.
With greetings from Vienna, Michael!
Wow that’s fantastic Michael! Sometime I hope to visit Vienna, as I’ve heard it’s so beautiful, and I want to study the Vienna horn with a great teacher as well, as the American tradition of horn playing is so very different.
I hope you keep at your horn playing, and have a wonderful time with it!
Dear Andrew,
Even though I subscribed to your channel a long time ago this is the 1st video I’ve ever watched. I am 69 years old and was an amateur bass trombone player over the years. I began horn lessons in August 2016 on a regular F horn and now play on a Holton double horn. However, for a few years I’ve desired to own a Vienna horn and to learn how to play on it. I am not a good horn player but the sound of the Vienna horn is so wonderfully captivating and unique that I would like to own one and play it as best that I can. Even good used Vienna horns can be somewhat difficult to find and, although not as expensive as a brand new one, are usually still expensive. Thank you for recording this video. Please, continue to create more Vienna horn videos in the future. I and many others would appreciate being more educated about this beautiful instrument. 👍🏻👌🏻👏🏻📯
Hey Steve, thank you so much! I'm so glad you enjoyed the video, and that's wonderful you are inspired to explore the Vienna horn! I really really want to keep make more Vienna horn content and perform on the instrument a lot, I'm just limited now because I can't afford one, and I've now graduated from Curtis and no longer have access to the beautiful instrument in this video. But I'm saving up for one, and I hope it won't be too long! It's so great to see someone at your stage in life still excited about learning new musical things and new instruments, it's super inspiring to youngsters like me! I wish you the best of luck in your horn journey.
Perfect video. I was looking exactly for this. ❤
Thanks for watching! Glad you found it!
Hello Andrew you do play a wonderful sound on your Engel. The new vienna horns (Yamaha, Jungwirth) do not sound so big, but are easier to play and elegantely and more flexible. But you will sound great on all Vienna horns. Best wishes 📯😎
Thanks very much, John! The Vienna horn sure is amazing
I'm looking into Vienna (so is my director. I might get a part on it) and was so interested. Wonderful instrument and wonderful video
Wow that’s great! Yes truly a lovely instrument; thanks for watching!
Great video!! Congratulations on your playing! I´m very glad to hear your thoughts. I agree with them! I´ve played double horn professionally my whole career but It´s already seven years now that I too have the fortune of owning and playing in orchestra a Vienna horn Yamaha 601. (depending on the works and players I alternate them). Ever since I´ve tried a vienna horn for the first time from a collegue in Vienna, it has created an unexplainable joy for the sound and the way of playing it... it has definetely changed my way of playing, feeling of the sound and phrases, and definetely did expanded my teaching method at the music conservatory by including F-horn playing with double horns in all of the musical range, even though it may not be used aterwards in orchestra. For me, Vienna horn playing is like coming back to the roots of bravery playing, creating sound within the sound that multiplies it self as you expand it. Such a joy. Please if possible do follow your goal of playing professionaly with it!
Thank you so much! That's so great to hear that you have been able to incorporate the vienna horn into your playing career! It's a wonderful instrument indeed. Since I graduated from the Curtis Institute of Music a year ago, I of course had to give this beautiful horn back to the school when I left, so I haven't had the chance to play a Vienna horn since then and I miss it sorely. It's also now so impossible for me to afford a new instrument, much less a good vienna horn, but I'll always one day dream if being able to have one.
Hi Andrew, grewing up in Austria and currently residing in Vienna (and hobby horn player) I found your video very exciting. I think you explained it very well - I see it the same way when it comes to special qualities of this instrument (we even consider the Vienna Horn to have this kind of "juice"). Probably you already heard of the band "Vienna Horns" but they are awesome players where you can hear the different types of playing styles and tone. BTW - You got the sound really sounding Viennese - I think American playing style is quite compatible with this horn.
Best wishes
Mathias
Hi Mathias, wow that’s fantastic! So awesome to hear from someone who knows the Vienna horn! Yes I have heard of the group, they are so amazing.
Thank you so much! Honestly I feel like the American style is extremely different from the Vienna style, and I radically changed the whole approach to how I move air and articulation in order to match the sound I’ve listened to in recordings; and of course I still have a long way to go to truly achieve it. But it was so much fun!
Thanks for watching!
Amazing instruments indeed. I wish they were a little more easy to come by... the ones you can get are either custom instruments from a handful of manufacturers or endlessly expensive relics of the past. Cheers from austria!
Agreed! I desperately want to get my hands on one of my own, but it’s far beyond my budget, but, I can still dream I suppose😊. Cheers to you as well!
Standby for the HD version, unfortunately RUclips is having a pouty day today😂
Edit: HD version is live! Hope you enjoy the video!
Dear Andrew, if you're interested, and I'm fairly sure you are, you can see the workshops of Robert Engel on RUclips. The business is no longer in existence due to mounting manufacturing costs, but it was still operational in the early 90s, I believe, and the RUclips clip shows his staff making these Vienna Horns and other instruments. I recognised your instrument as an Engel by its particular configuration so I wondered if you knew the manufacturer or not. Anyway, tune in to RUclips and enjoy !
Oh yes, your rendition of Heldenleben was awesome by the way! I used to play Horn so I know what I'm talking about !!
Oh cool, I will definitely check out those videos! Yes I did know the horn was made by him as I mentioned in the video, but I know very little about him. Such a shame he had to stop production!
Thanks so much for the kind words, glaf you enjoyed the video!
@@andrewstump6138 You're very welcome. Glad to be of help. I've loved watching the craftsmen at their work. It was quite a demanding process - needing both muscle and delicacy !
I wish I could get a horn like that but I cant get one at the moment. :[
I wish I could get one of my own too, this one I have to give back to my school next week, very sad :'(
Dear Andrew,
You are an amazing musician with your talent to play so many instruments so well. I am 69 years old and a former amateur bass trombone player. I began taking horn lessons in 2016 when I was 65. I am not a good horn player and I have trouble recognizing the correct written pitches and hitting the correct written pitches because the harmonics are so close together, unlike the bass trombone. But I want to get better at playing the horn. I have been interested in the Vienna horn for some years and have done some research into them just to learn more about them. Someday, I, too, would like to own a Vienna horn but even a good used one can be expensive but that’s probably only what I can afford in time. One of the Vienna horn makers I’ve research a bit is Jiracek from Europe. Have you ever heard of this Vienna horn maker? If you ever get a chance to try out a Jiracek Vienna horn I would be very interested in hearing what you would have to say about this maker and about the Vienna horn that they produce. I will have to write you again and give you the model number of their Vienna horn, however, I think that Jiracek produces only 1 model anyway. But I will check it anyway and let you know. Thank you for this video and for the content of your many other videos. God bless you! Sincerely, Steve Logan👍🏻📯
Hi Steve, thank you so much! I have heard of the Jiracek horn but I don’t know much about it, I would be very curious to try one! It actually looks somewhat reasonably priced at €5000. Even that price point is not an option for me now, but I’m always hoping to save up for it! I wish you all the best in your horn playing journey, I hope you get much enjoyment out of it!
Super video. Hope I have the opportunity to try, or even own a Vienna horn. I’m just a novice player, with some community concert band experience, and now desire to further develop in various aspects of playing. Some professionals have said that spending time on a natural horn is the best way to reach “next level” to become fully competent. Your thoughts Andrew?
Thank you! I do agree to an extent, as the natural horn exposes some things the modern valve horn hides, and it also encourages more nuanced playing. I think the Vienna horn is the ultimate horn in many ways, all the beauty and delicacy of the natural horn, but with just three valves to make it chromatic and capable of playing any music. I wish to own one someday
@andrewstump6138 Thank you for your thoughtful reply. I welcome any suggestions on sourcing a new Natural horn in the U.S. Perhaps Prof Seraphinoff is still manufacturing them? By the way, I just happen to own 2 Yamahas. One Kruspe and one Geyer. I am curious how RUclips algorithms seemed to know!
Great explanation, congrats also to your playing! There are also modern versions of this instrument made by Yamaha or Jungwirth. Also The Tonkünstler Orchestra and the Vienna Symphony Orchestra use Vienna horns. I strongly recommend the channel of Peter Dorfmayr , Vienna Symphony Solo Horn player, to understand the sound concept, wich also includes different mouthpiece size and right hand position.
Thanks very much! Yes I've seen the Jungwirth and Yamaha horns, I've heard they are very good. Astronomically expensive though😅. I will certainly check out Peter Dorfmayr for sure! I really hope to get to play a Vienna horn professionally someday, that would be a dream
Sounds like a more exciting 🐿. 🤣
Haha, I was waiting for your comment😁; definitely exciting indeed
to me the timbre change with dynamics matter way more than the change is volume
I agree
Your Horn sound is really great!
I absolutely love it.
I gues you don't use a Vienna mouthpiece?
Wish that you will have the opportunity to play the Vienna horn further on in your future career.
Greetings from Germany
Thank you very much! No I do not have access to a Vienna mouthpiece unfortunately, so little information to even get started here in the U.S. it’s all just boring double horn here. But I also hope to play Vienna horn in the future as well whenever there is opportunity!
@@andrewstump6138 For what it's worth, you sound as if you are using a Vienna mouthpiece. I used a Paxman 4C for many years on my Conn28d. The F side of that almost imitated a Vienna horn at times. I now have a Haagston Wienerhorn as a pet ! I don't play in public any more as I'm 71 but I still enjoy a tootle at home. The Viennese mouthpiece will make a difference. It'll take getting used to but it's worth the trip !
Andrew, thank you for sharing so much information about the Vienna Horn. I learned a lot. I enjoyed hearing you play as well. I hope that you are able to find a Vienna Horn of your own in the near future! I didn't realize you were graduating so soon. For some reason, I thought you had just recently started there. I'm not sure why I thought that. Did you go to another school before going to Curtis Institute of Music? I think with all the craziness of the past couple of years, I've lost track of time. It's been weird. :) Thank you again for sharing this with us! Tell your Mom I said hi. I've missed seeing her over the past several years.
Thank you so much, I’m so glad you enjoyed it! Yeah it’s crazy how quickly my time has gone by, I started at Curtis in 2018, and am about to finish a 4-year Bachelor degree. This is the first music school I have attended so far, as I graduated high school in 2017, and then took a gap year before going to Curtis.
We all have missed you guys as well! I certainly will tell my folks you said hi :)
@@andrewstump6138 i’m not a horn player but i’ve researched vienna horn some and i couldn’t find some awhile back but i looked yesterday and found that yamaha apparently makes them
@ppebis nade Yes you're right, Yamaha does make one, the YHR-601 model. I'm not convinced that would be the best choice though, I would imagine a handmade Austian one would be better. My dream is to own a Vienna horn made by Andreas Jungwirth; his work is exquisite.
@@ppebisnade5592 There are basically 2 big producers whose instruments are played in Vienna - Yamaha (which bought a traditional Viennese brass manufacturer) and Jungwirth Horns. Additionally there is Engelbert Schmid who got into Vienna Horn production more recently. Older ones include Engel, Ganter, Pizka, Wiener Produktivgenossenschaft etc. But still rather small companies/manufacturers.
@@andrewstump6138 Hi, personally I also prefer Jungwirth Horns - they have a small workshop in Lower Austria not far from Vienna. If you buy one, it would make sense to visit their shop and try several horns and take the one which fits best for you. You can then combine it with visiting concerts in Vienna and similar activities 🙂
Right on! Congrats, you’re really taking to it. BTW, in case you’re not aware of it hi Bb is fingered 23, as is hi C (sounding Eb and F) and B natural is fingered with 1. On the Vienna Horn. You should find these more stable. LMK how it goes. Sounds great so far - keep up the good work.
Wow I didn't know that! Unfortunately since this horn is not mine I had to give it back shortly after this video was recorded. No knowing when I'll get a chance to try a Vienna horn again, since I don't have the money to afford my own, but it's a dream of mine to have one one day!
@@andrewstump6138 👍 Best of luck - it's a great instrument to practice on for fine tuning the embouchure and general sound concept. In the meantime here's an exciting rendition of "Back to the Future" by "The Vienna Horns", players from the Vienna Phil, Vienna Symphony and other local orchestras: ruclips.net/video/jnFl1q0IYTA/видео.html
Thank you!
Andrew
which mouthpiece are you using?
For the Vienna horn here I’m using a Holton MDC with a plastic Laskey copy rim, it is not a good mouthpiece and makes it hard to play, but it’s the closest I have to the proper shape for the Vienna horn, the most funnel-shaped
@@andrewstump6138 Hi Andrew thanks for your info and your compliment. Seriously,
, all what you need to do is to take your mouthpiece jump into the plain and fly to Vienna, Salzburg or Linz, you are most welcome to join us we are playing Vienna Horn Quartett every Sunday evening, I also have a Jungwirth horn for you to play no need to carry instrument with you ;) Just let me know upfront Kind regards Alex
I appreciate it so much, thank you, . Someday when I have the money for a plane ticket and am not so busy, I would love to go over and visit! Keep up the great playing📯
@@andrewstump6138 I am waiting for you !
whats the solo at 10:30 from?
That’s a horn tutti from the first movement of Mahler Symphony No. 3
Mahler 9
No it's not, it's Mahler 3