Just found this and think it is one of the best lessons online I’ve ever seen !!!I took this to the range to confirm ! I am one of those passionate golfers that shoots in the 90s most day. I have shot84 before but can never get that repeated solid strike you might be my new hero’s ! Just because a guy can’t afford a pro to fix my game every week doesn’t mean I don’t practice and love the game ! I will pass this on and help another golfer that wants to play good golf Thank you both !!
I’ve been working on this for a few months. This is one of those tips that can actually change your swing visually as soon as you start doing it. It has dramatically improved my usual flaws - overswinging, elbows bent through impact, and an overly inside out club path. I feel that every golfer can benefit from focusing on this
This is the BEST tip ever! Why are you the only one who has covered this! Also, when you get a great tip like this, you have to be ready (and in that place of progress) for it.
Great video Eric & Steve! The drills are great!! My tendency is to let the right elbow fly and cup the left wrist at the top. These drills make the swing more compact without any loss of power and an increase in accuracy. Keep up the great work!!
Thank you👍 the best illustration 👏 look forward to hitting some pure shots knowing where my elbows should be and the key keeping them close, best tip ever and will take me to the next level I am sure🙏
A brief excerpt from pages 124-125 of Harvey Penick’s Little Red Book references this. Something for which Mickey Wright, Abe Mitchell, and Mary Lena Faulk all advocated; not to mention, Ben Hogan who had the idea illustrated in his book, Five Lessons. Definitely a fundamental swing check, and one that I’ll train for with a small elastic “hip” band.
Eric and Steve, really enjoyed the video! I had a couple of questions, first, would use of an Izzo band replicate having the ball squeeze or is the band too passive versus the active effort required for the ball? Second, would use of the "Hanger" with the ball or band be overkill? Thank you again for the effort to always explain the faults and fixes so succinctly!
Hey Michael! 1. Yes you could use that as well 2. I would like separate them in practice... Like 3--5 reps band 3-5 reps hanger circuit back and forth for 20-30 reps as close to daily as you can Use video to confirm
Hey William! I would say having the elbow close and trail wrist bent back IN THE DOWNSWING is probably THE MOST important thing outside of club face being square to closed
Enjoyed this "back to basics". Very important and timely information, well explained. Confused only by the squeeze of hands---seems to me that a lighter grip pressure yields greater clubhead speed, and enhances the whip in transition. Thoughts?
Yeah the grip/arm pressure is a tough one I wish it was 2+2=4 but I do not believe it is I have seen it worked wildly different from player to player Some players I have seen great strikers feel 10/10 grip pressure....others like they barely hold it.....whos right? I think you need to find what works best for you. I would say generally whatever pressure you START with you want to keep throughout Generally players with poor arm/wrist structure need to feel MORE tension (to change them) vs less ruclips.net/video/VQ2fVOx6re8/видео.html
Thanks Eric & Steve, my question is I feel like I start the back swing with the elbows close but they appear to be separating on the down swing closer to impact and The chicken wing seems more dramatic on the follow through. Is this still a symptom of separation of the elbows or being left hand dominant on the down swing.
Hey Trevor! our pleasure!! Cant say for sure without seeing your swing on video and seeing whats causing that---send swings to www.cogornogolf.com so we can diagnose and fix!
I love the drill as a issue of mine is open elbow then over the top pull/hook. One issue I have when keeping pressure on the elbow is I get super tight with the grip and wrist as well (my videos show very little wrist hinge and and at left arm parallel I'm no where near 90 degrees). Any tips with this or do I need to slow down and not get to a full swing until its right?
Would have to see to say for sure Super tight with the grips MAY or MAY NOT be an issue so long as your hinge is too on way down it could be OK if you are less than 90 going back If you dont have enough hinge coming down then I would look at it more ruclips.net/video/PicEGBmuktI/видео.html ruclips.net/video/s6SER1QwG_4/видео.html
Very instructive details. During the down swing, as the right elbow tuck， when club parallels ground, what is the angle between right forearm and right upper arm from the down the line view? Since the video shows your hands very close to knee position. My video shows my hands on the same level as my belt. Thanks
Is the tense squeezing of the arms for the drill purposes only? Or something to be felt while doing playing on the course? Does the tenseness ever subside after constantly doing it lol?
Didn’t work till I realized I my arms got disconnected from my shoulders in the downswing. My back shoulder didn’t move down and through the ball. It clicked after I made the adjustment. Great tip!
Hi Eric. My question is this in reference to elbows closer, arm squeeze. I have had rotator surgery on both shoulders and I don't have much, being a right handed golfer, (external rotation) of my trail arm. So my elbow will chicken wing a little in my back swing. So how do I apply this method under those conditions?
Great Question! then don't worry about the backswing but make sure from about left arm parallel through impact in downswing they get back closer More on that here: ruclips.net/video/cKz2-yn5R2o/видео.html
If I can't actually make it out to the range 3+ days a week, is there still value to practicing this motion, elbow spacing and feeling (parallel to parallel) without hitting balls but just swinging the club?
the squeezing is due to rotation of arms (rt-external,left external) to bring elbows together NOT just pulling arms together. ( ie shoulders fixed width, hands together, only arm rotation affects elbow. width?)
So am I supposed to have tension in my arms or not? In another video you explained that you can have tight grip pressure, but don't want tension in your arms at setup. How should I think about this while over the ball?
Great questions. I wish it was 2+2 and I could tell you 4 I do not think this is the same for ever player If.....IF.......the person's arm structure is BAD......then I would likely say they need MORE PRESSURE.....not loose goose. If they feel relaxed and arm structure is good then all good.
I was taught by GG to have a home plate setup look like hogan with a flying trail elbow with internal shoulder then in transition squat and squeeze the elbow. The flying elbow makes the squeeze easier for me and doesn't cause the shoulder plane to flatten and get the trail elbow stuck to much in front during the backswing. If you look at a throwing motion you don’t set the shoulder in an externally rotated position it goes from internal to external which is the model you see from the longest drivers like Kyle Berkshire. While Sergio is phenomenal I don’t believe most people are capable of squeezing the elbows close together at setup getting the trail shoulder externally rotated and then going more external in transition. this video follows Hogans image of arms tied together even though he setup different. Personally I think this video is harmful and will lead to other backswing problems if it's not done under the careful watch of a pga instructor.
thanks for the message...I agree with parts of this for sure. Frankly the setup and backswing have the most variables...some players do better with more internal trail shoulder going back and more eternal coming down.... but not all. Either side can be disastrous for the right golfer :) The MAIN idea here is no matter what you do at setup and going back the elbows getting closer and trail shoulder external from P4-P5 if the big Key more on that here ruclips.net/video/cKz2-yn5R2o/видео.html ruclips.net/video/OJppwDGvhmY/видео.html
Good information about the swing differences between swings with the elbows staying squeezed together vs flared apart. Also good points about feel of retaining tension as opposed to things getting loose and sloppy. Having an advert for the hanger inserted part way through the video, interrupting the content, was strange and out of place.
Great video. However, is it just me, or has Steve got an over strong right hand grip. Being a top coach, I would have thought he would be more nuetral and was wondering why he prefers it..
Thank you, Brian! Steve's trail hand grip is pretty neutral (Vs to his trail collarbone). If the Vs were pointing at or past his trail shoulder, then we would consider that more of a strong grip👍 Hope that helps! Appreciate you watching!
Just found this and think it is one of the best lessons online I’ve ever seen !!!I took this to the range to confirm ! I am one of those passionate golfers that shoots in the 90s most day. I have shot84 before but can never get that repeated solid strike you might be my new hero’s ! Just because a guy can’t afford a pro to fix my game every week doesn’t mean I don’t practice and love the game ! I will pass this on and help another golfer that wants to play good golf Thank you both !!
Really appreciate the kind words and support Michael!! Glad to hear it helped!
I’ve been working on this for a few months. This is one of those tips that can actually change your swing visually as soon as you start doing it. It has dramatically improved my usual flaws - overswinging, elbows bent through impact, and an overly inside out club path. I feel that every golfer can benefit from focusing on this
:) Love to hear that Michael!
Paid a lot for a tour coach lesson and this exact lesson was pretty much the instruction. Some great free content here
:) Appreciate you watching!
Watched 100s of golf instructions but this is 1st one I've seen about squeezed elbows. Very good instructions.
Thanks Lee!
Keepin’ it Simple!!! That’s what Eric does! On my good days I’m great and on my bad days I’m still a threat to my competitors with Eric’s tips.
:) Love it!
This is the BEST tip ever! Why are you the only one who has covered this!
Also, when you get a great tip like this, you have to be ready (and in that place of progress) for it.
:) Thanks Joseph!!
Great video Eric & Steve! The drills are great!! My tendency is to let the right elbow fly and cup the left wrist at the top. These drills make the swing more compact without any loss of power and an increase in accuracy. Keep up the great work!!
Thank you Nicholas!
Thank you for making my golf game fun!
Love to hear this Roy!
7:24 so so important! Brilliant! Liked!
Thank you!
Great video, these are skills every golfer can work on.
Thanks Jim! 100%!
Thank you👍 the best illustration 👏 look forward to hitting some pure shots knowing where my elbows should be and the key keeping them close, best tip ever and will take me to the next level I am sure🙏
:)
Absolutely!!! Flat swing equals power!!! ⛳️⛳️⛳️
:) Thanks for watching Denise!
I must for shallowing the club great lesson Eric
Thank you!!
love it
very hogan-ish. there used to be a strap that we put our arms into that held the elbows together.
Yessir!
What happened to that strap?
Very helpful. Thanks
You got it Carlos!
A brief excerpt from pages 124-125 of Harvey Penick’s Little Red Book references this. Something for which Mickey Wright, Abe Mitchell, and Mary Lena Faulk all advocated; not to mention, Ben Hogan who had the idea illustrated in his book, Five Lessons. Definitely a fundamental swing check, and one that I’ll train for with a small elastic “hip” band.
Thanx Eric. Perhaps I should buy one of those special elbow balls.
Good lesson.
Our pleasure! Thanks for watching!
This made a world of a difference in my distance and accuracy
Love to hear this!
Eric and Steve, really enjoyed the video! I had a couple of questions, first, would use of an Izzo band replicate having the ball squeeze or is the band too passive versus the active effort required for the ball? Second, would use of the "Hanger" with the ball or band be overkill?
Thank you again for the effort to always explain the faults and fixes so succinctly!
Hey Michael!
1. Yes you could use that as well
2. I would like separate them in practice...
Like 3--5 reps band
3-5 reps hanger
circuit back and forth for 20-30 reps as close to daily as you can
Use video to confirm
Hi Eric. I’m convinced this is a game changer. How important do you think elbows together and right wrist back are in the golf swing? Cheers.
Hey William!
I would say having the elbow close and trail wrist bent back IN THE DOWNSWING is probably THE MOST important thing outside of club face being square to closed
Enjoyed this "back to basics". Very important and timely information, well explained. Confused only by the squeeze of hands---seems to me that a lighter grip pressure yields greater clubhead speed, and enhances the whip in transition. Thoughts?
Yeah the grip/arm pressure is a tough one
I wish it was 2+2=4 but I do not believe it is
I have seen it worked wildly different from player to player
Some players I have seen great strikers feel 10/10 grip pressure....others like they barely hold it.....whos right?
I think you need to find what works best for you.
I would say generally whatever pressure you START with you want to keep throughout
Generally players with poor arm/wrist structure need to feel MORE tension (to change them) vs less
ruclips.net/video/VQ2fVOx6re8/видео.html
@@CogornoGolf Thank you!
Great video👍
Thanks Peggy!
Thanks Eric & Steve, my question is I feel like I start the back swing with the elbows close but they appear to be separating on the down swing closer to impact and The chicken wing seems more dramatic on the follow through. Is this still a symptom of separation of the elbows or being left hand dominant on the down swing.
Hey Trevor! our pleasure!!
Cant say for sure without seeing your swing on video and seeing whats causing that---send swings to www.cogornogolf.com so we can diagnose and fix!
Super video.
Thanks Diane!
I love the drill as a issue of mine is open elbow then over the top pull/hook. One issue I have when keeping pressure on the elbow is I get super tight with the grip and wrist as well (my videos show very little wrist hinge and and at left arm parallel I'm no where near 90 degrees). Any tips with this or do I need to slow down and not get to a full swing until its right?
Would have to see to say for sure
Super tight with the grips MAY or MAY NOT be an issue
so long as your hinge is too on way down it could be OK if you are less than 90 going back
If you dont have enough hinge coming down then I would look at it more
ruclips.net/video/PicEGBmuktI/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/s6SER1QwG_4/видео.html
I would make sure your grip is in your fingers. That will help with the wrist hinge.
I think this just saves my golf swing. I’ll be on or off but just inconsistent. I think this is why I either pull or over fade which is my big miss.
Hope it serves you well, Timothy!
Very instructive details. During the down swing, as the right elbow tuck， when club parallels ground, what is the angle between right forearm and right upper arm from the down the line view? Since the video shows your hands very close to knee position. My video shows my hands on the same level as my belt. Thanks
Hey Perry!
These videos should answer your questions
ruclips.net/video/OJppwDGvhmY/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/CxzVIm8PInE/видео.html
@@CogornoGolf Eric, the video answers my question. Thanks
Same for driver and fairway woods or just for irons?
Yep same concept for all clubs
@@CogornoGolf great, thank you.
Is the tense squeezing of the arms for the drill purposes only? Or something to be felt while doing playing on the course? Does the tenseness ever subside after constantly doing it lol?
Didn’t work till I realized I my arms got disconnected from my shoulders in the downswing. My back shoulder didn’t move down and through the ball. It clicked after I made the adjustment. Great tip!
:) Thanks Joseph!
Quick question, should the elbows be the same and experience that squeeze feel when using a driver?
Yo! Yeah same general ideas. Won't be the same for everyone but its a good place to start from!
Hi Eric.
My question is this in reference to elbows closer, arm squeeze. I have had rotator surgery on both shoulders and I don't have much, being a right handed golfer, (external rotation) of my trail arm. So my elbow will chicken wing a little in my back swing.
So how do I apply this method under those conditions?
Great Question!
then don't worry about the backswing but make sure from about left arm parallel through impact in downswing they get back closer
More on that here: ruclips.net/video/cKz2-yn5R2o/видео.html
This is what I need to do
Hope this one helps, Bob!
Can this method be used for hybrid?
Yes
This is all shown with an Iron in hand. Is this swing concept the same idea for a Driver or wood?
Yes! Same concept for all clubs👍
@@CogornoGolf Awesomeness Thanks!
If I can't actually make it out to the range 3+ days a week, is there still value to practicing this motion, elbow spacing and feeling (parallel to parallel) without hitting balls but just swinging the club?
Need to have a ball present....can be foam or whiffle at home
Been working on this and great results
Love it Frankie!
Just purchased a smart ball so perfect timing. Couldn't have explained this any better cheers fellas. Could you also use this drill with driver?
Love it!
Yes...but only training like 1/2 swings I would say!
@@CogornoGolf nice one cheers, will give this a good go 👍
the squeezing is due to rotation of arms (rt-external,left external) to bring elbows together NOT just pulling arms together. ( ie shoulders fixed width, hands together, only arm rotation affects elbow. width?)
Insane how well this worked. Holy shit.
Great to hear Jacob!!
So am I supposed to have tension in my arms or not? In another video you explained that you can have tight grip pressure, but don't want tension in your arms at setup. How should I think about this while over the ball?
Great questions.
I wish it was 2+2 and I could tell you 4
I do not think this is the same for ever player
If.....IF.......the person's arm structure is BAD......then I would likely say they need MORE PRESSURE.....not loose goose.
If they feel relaxed and arm structure is good then all good.
I would imagine that the Watson structure ball would work just the same. It feels so uncomfortable. Does it ever get where it feels comfortable?
Hey Andre! I have not personally use that one yet but I would assume so yes.
For sure....but it takes time.
Just like anything new....
i find that hangar product very difficult to use and train with...especially hitting balls. Maybe you should do a video on just that product?
For sure....did a good one here: ruclips.net/video/OyxgamZllOM/видео.html
Key to get it setup correctly!
I was taught by GG to have a home plate setup look like hogan with a flying trail elbow with internal shoulder then in transition squat and squeeze the elbow. The flying elbow makes the squeeze easier for me and doesn't cause the shoulder plane to flatten and get the trail elbow stuck to much in front during the backswing. If you look at a throwing motion you don’t set the shoulder in an externally rotated position it goes from internal to external which is the model you see from the longest drivers like Kyle Berkshire. While Sergio is phenomenal I don’t believe most people are capable of squeezing the elbows close together at setup getting the trail shoulder externally rotated and then going more external in transition. this video follows Hogans image of arms tied together even though he setup different. Personally I think this video is harmful and will lead to other backswing problems if it's not done under the careful watch of a pga instructor.
Ummm?
@@integrito3323 ummm what?
thanks for the message...I agree with parts of this for sure.
Frankly the setup and backswing have the most variables...some players do better with more internal trail shoulder going back and more eternal coming down....
but not all.
Either side can be disastrous for the right golfer :)
The MAIN idea here is no matter what you do at setup and going back the elbows getting closer and trail shoulder external from P4-P5 if the big Key
more on that here
ruclips.net/video/cKz2-yn5R2o/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/OJppwDGvhmY/видео.html
Good information about the swing differences between swings with the elbows staying squeezed together vs flared apart. Also good points about feel of retaining tension as opposed to things getting loose and sloppy. Having an advert for the hanger inserted part way through the video, interrupting the content, was strange and out of place.
Thanks for the feedback on all of the above! Always trying to improve!
Push the the club down and maintain that feeling while turning shoulders back and through the golf ball. ⛳🏌️♂️😉
Yes!
How does a person squeeze their arms together, and not have tension in the golf swing?
Hey Rich!
They don't....they will have tension.
If the elbows are too far apart to start.....relaxed is likely not the goal.
Great video. However, is it just me, or has Steve got an over strong right hand grip. Being a top coach, I would have thought he would be more nuetral and was wondering why he prefers it..
Thank you, Brian!
Steve's trail hand grip is pretty neutral (Vs to his trail collarbone). If the Vs were pointing at or past his trail shoulder, then we would consider that more of a strong grip👍
Hope that helps! Appreciate you watching!
Ever Seen balesteros
Yessir! He was great! Lots of ways to do it !
1:39...I've never seen a person bring their arms back that way. Otherwise a great video. Thanks.
Thanks Alex!
I say “pinch” on the back swing and “pinch” on contact to remind myself to keep the elbows/arms together
:) Perfect!
Also the chicken wing on the follow through is far more obvious on the longer irons and 3 woods.
For sure
The bad version is always demonstrated to extreme!
Lol true :)