Front headlock throw
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- Опубликовано: 28 янв 2020
- Front headlock throw. Very common in freestyle and greco roman wrestling. It is so effective and I love it but it is judo Illegal. And dangerous! Dont do it.
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Thank goodness, a judo instructor that teaches all the moves and not just tournament judo sport. Bravo and thank you!
The main reason I watch this channel. enough of this bullshit Judo and those teacher who follow only the competition rules; Judo is a martial-art, period.
@@jgespana866 I couldn't agree more! Judo has double and single legs. It's a beautiful martial art.
Exactly right?
Ever since they removed the lower body takedowns to favor the japanese stylists, Judo started to die, and it looks like it will not change. As a TaeKwonDo black belt I saw this happen with the WTF rules, and now as a BJJ black belt I'm seeing Jiu Jitsu become more and more watered down by bullshit rules like the no reaping and no anckle locks idiocy. It's a shame this seems to always happen to the really efective systems once they become mainstream.
@@donotstalkme agreed with all u said. u should train martial arts to be able to protect urself not to win a tournament
How did RUclips know to show me this? I love this throw and ones like it. Hard to find people to work on this sort of thing as most people I train with are focused on sport. I think this sort of thing is underutilized in mma
Nice to see you on the other side of videos! Love your channel, bro!
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Interesting seeing you here...I watch your channel all the time in combination with this channel..
Woah! Good to see you on the ground/judo feed mike, great stuff btw subscribed on your first video, excellent content!
Icy Mike !!!!
Judo: it’s not just for tournaments after all.
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What's with the caps?
@@enricopucci7413 who hurt you man
@@y200sub NO BODY YET BUT I WRITE IN CAPS BECAUSE I AM ALWAYS SHOUTING MY VOICE IS ALWAYS AT 80dB I AM A LOUDER THING PLUS I HATE ALMOST EVERYBODY INCLUDING MY SELF RAGE RAGE RAGE
😂😂😂😂
Tried it with my sister
-i miss her now
Yes , she is in a better place where she wont get choked.
@@user-nu3sd7zb2j finally ^^
I can never understand the separation of judo and wrestling, they complement each other so well.
One is with a jacket, the other is not ;)
@@jacobsl3499 lol true.
@travis lol..again you with the stupid remark.
Shintaro I like your attitude! Pragmatic to the end: "I.... just started using it!" cracked me up lol
Love this kind of stuff! I don't compete, so legal or not I don't really care. Actually the fact that it's illegal makes it even more tempting... Lol
That looks like it can kill someone though be careful with hat
man get the head lock when they shoot the take down , and !!!! scary shit if its done with the right timing
Yes!
Catch Wrestlers have used this to great effect for well over 150 years.
Thank you!
Great video!
Yeah but they prefer to just use the head, and forget the arm. There's a reason why a middleweighht catchwrestler would often have a 20" neck.
@@johndouglass3691 Perhaps, I can think of many catch Wrestlers would definitely trap the arm, Josh Barnett, for example; the large neck muscles are pretty standard, though.
@@johannfarmann8649 In the 2007 seminar video with Josh and Erik Paulsen, they ask Billy what he calls the head only version of this throw and he answers " A week's vacation from work". But yeah, Catch 'em any way you can.
@@johndouglass3691 Thanks.
I'm familiar with Erik Paulsen, Billy Robinson. I'll check it out. I don't suppose you're familiar with Jake Shannon?
@@johannfarmann8649 Yup. Learned Catch through Jake's programs with Fujiwara and Billy. Then I got old...😡
Keep these great videos coming. Thanks :)
This is great! In our Jujutsu class we do this against the shoot in. Just have to step off line first. Usually get the tap from standing. Great technique.
It looks like a good technique to use in a self-defence situation. Thank you for posting this video!
Real judo. Bless you sir.
We have tawara gaeshi, a very similar throw that is actually legal in judo competitions.
I learned a very similar version, with more amplitude, and was taught that it was tawara-gaeshi.
I was taught the front headlock version first then the around the body version.
In my judo club.
We do this often in jiujitsu/MMA training. Beautiful throw
Great video again. I was wondering if you can do one on Te guruma. I was able to find some videos on it but they seem to contradict one another.
Hahah this was so good Shintaro
Excellent technique.
Very very dangerous technique. Thank God the instructor is shintaro.
One of my favorite techniq but I step in with left leg and sit on right straight leg on front of opponent to turn him over his head
Self Defense move.. non tournament. Thank you for the exposition.
Beautiful technique
Love the throw! And... It's not illegal in jiu jitsu... Will try and practice that one. Thanks
@Silent Psykosis i dont do bjj ...i do trad Japanese Jiu Jitsu
You can modify it by grabbing the tricep instead and going under while kicking at the thigh. Kind of like a tomoe nage. If you keep the head under your stomach instead of to the side you can avoid any sort of neck cranking.
I actually learnt this at gendai jujutsu club i used to train, the club slowly became a mcdojo after breaking away from the hombu. But i did learn a few good things there. It's nice to pop in because it's near my Highschool and catch up with a few mates. You really see how much you've grown as a martial artist when you go back to were you used to train after hard randori and a few comps.
Have you tried rolling the other way? It would be like adapting the gater roll for judo. Seems like you could set up for a nice choke after the roll
Damn
I wish i could be a student
You have a wealth of knowledge
Most out here only teach & emphasize competition style Judo
Do you have video references for this throw at full speed? Thoughts on where to move on opponent after through for lock?
I've used feign kicks to lean opponent forward, trap similar and body TWIST 180 on throw back with / for face-down impact. They hit HARD...either or One Hip or Both Knee's. Game-Ender. It nearly ended my "Door-Man" career.
Student done a perfect break fall.
Really cool
Another illegal technique from a similar position is the neck crack/neck breaker, an old judo/catch move.
Youre the kukoshi budo institute guys lol i follow on insta, never knew you had a yt channel.
Judo is a fun martial arts its the first style ive ever learn.
Dope! I just pulled this off this a month ago! Its beautiful and safe, I got caught by a single leg and didn't sprawl in time, got a weak seatbelt grip, dropped slipped the leg in almost like a halfassed sumi gaeshi, it was ugly but it worked.
In BJJ though, I do something similar.
Yeah in my Judo school it's traditional IJF rules and any deviation is frowned upon, but I've got a BJJ school which is more relaxed so I get to play freestyle stand up against wrestlers and other judoka or BJJ guys.
You can even straight up front headlock suplex someone if you wanted to. Super effective against shitty double legs too having that momentum 👊🏻
cool stuff
Love that you're to the point. Talk about it for a minute, have a go, and hand it over to the guys,
Trying this
I do this one a lot but with a leg underneath the opponent's thighs to help with the flip and not injure their neck. Super safe if you do it that way.
Brutal!
This is 💰
Too good
From that grip couldn't you also sprawl/sit and get into newaza and transition to a choke?
I used something similar in high school wrestling
Every style of martial arts has its strengths and weaknesses but great Bruce Lee respected judo more than other martial art ...it's in writing in one of his biographies....
There's a frontal variation too, even more dangerous
If you don’t get DQed sometimes you’re not trying ;-)
Or you can read the rules
could you make a video about old judo rules ? before the banning of Kani basami ?
I've done this in BJJ. It's super effective.
Took down two guys today in Luta Livre class with my favourite variation of this. Pro tip: Knee the ribs on the side that you trap before you throw.
is this legal in bjj tournaments? is it in fact considered a neck crank?
is it legal in judo if i lock his head, but instead of lean back and throw, i straighten my leg and turn him side way to the ground and go for the pin?
Is this legal if someone does this with the guillotine and not with arm in? Reason I ask is a white belt just did this to me after I defended the guillotine and now I'm feeling some tingles... felt like my neck was being cranked and I couldn't even tapped. The guy had 40 lbs on me.
reminds me of the 100%
Oss!
My bjj just say THANK YOU SIR , im gonna smash with that move !
I love it! There's so much happening there, what shall we call it... kube-tomoenage?
I would say it is basically a variation of the (competition legal) Tawara-gaeshi.
ruclips.net/video/naYfcOUJFBM/видео.html
@@cerotidinon That's very true. I watched the video again I agree, it's very similar to Tawara-gaeshi. In this case using the neck instead of around the abdomen like Tawara-gaeshi. Thanks for replying. That was interesting. Do you hold a dan in judo?
@@damienangelo5226 Yes, I do. I think the two main advantages of Shintaro's variation are that you get a much tighter grip and uke has no choice but to go into this direction if he doesn't want to break his neck.
In particular, you can force uke to go upwards with his upper body instead of just falling flat to the belly which is hard to avoid with Tawara-gaeshi if uke is not already in a forward motion (like whenn going for a double-leg/Morote-gari).
@@cerotidinon I think in this variation there's no other option for uke, like you said, it's either tori's direction or a broken neck where if one is quick enough you can still break free of Tawara-gaeshi. It's so nice to discuss the techniques and to see it from someone else's viewpoint. I'm Damien from South Africa. 3rd dan.
How did no pokemon fan comment about the super effective part of the thumbnail lol
I used to wrestle in college. I managed to perform that move pretty often as a leg defense. In wrestling that throw Is not ilegal.
@@MaulqasmPK what u calling BS?
That hurts just looking at it
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Where is your Dojo at? Sir.
The setup where you "snap him down so that his hands on the floor" only works against weaker opponents.
NIce ! You could also drop right down into a Peruvian necktie.
this is deadly. no need to throw even. just the front lock will break the neck very fast, if so desired. Most dangerous technique.
LOL. "It's a great throw, that you probably shouldn't do". I love it. (But I won't be using it. good advice.) Nice job on your uke, and it shows you have good control. But I don't think any novices should be practicing it, W/O a lawyer. :)
Judo is not just a sport, it's self defense too
Very good to know, hopefully Thies mitigates the fact that judo doesnt do double single legs anymore with a good technique to counter
That could be used to choke right?
Is this legal in folk style wrestling?
1:45 Judo coach and a chiropractor? Nice
We were practicing judo throws at BJJ today, and everyone was keeping their hips away, and I totally could have used this... Next time...
That's a good way to injure people who aren't used to falling and are going to resist being thrown as hard as possible rather than go with the throw when it becomes a foregone conclusion. Everyone when they're newbies at Judo keeps their hips away; you'll figure out how to overcome it without any special move. They can't effectively attack themselves if they keep their hips out, so while it's annoying, they give you all day from relative safety to figure out how to throw them.
95 % damage done
I do judo and BJJ the stuff i can't use in Judo I just wait till sparring in BJJ class.
Very similar to a CrossFace from Wrestling
Is this legal in the UFC?
Yes
well ... I did that once , but I did not throw the opponent , but rise him in the air and keep him there , choking him .
FINALLY THE REAL SHIT
its like a standing darce choke si?
i do this from knees in bjj all the time
Это лампочка из вольной борьбы.
is this bjj legal?
It looks like this move can potentially break the neck of the guy taking the fall. If that's true, it's more dangerous than we think. The guy would straightway get a ticket to heaven.
i can do this at bjj ?i mean look like some gilhotine, or anaconda choke ?
you can do the guilhotine, but i don't think the throw is legal
"You can't throw a person by only controlling the head"
-the rules
but basically you have control of the other arm too
I'd say you could but please go ask your professor/instructor before you do it in a tournament
I'm pretty sure I got swept with this in a no-gi competition once. Maybe it's allowed from the knees but not as a throw ?
Easy anaconda choke or after the sprawl pull opposite arm through for a clean darce choke
Lock up the grip and gator roll into the anaconda. If his hands are on the mat then it’s no different than attacking the turtle.
Whait, that’s illegal
I say we start a hansoku make movement, where we purposely try to get ippon using illegal techniques, until they are forced to make them legal.
I DON'T KNOW A SHIT ABOUT JUDO RULES BUT I AM SUPPORTING YOUR IDEA FREE CHOKE GUILLOTINES TROWS FOR EVERY BODY UNTIL BECAME NORMAL AND ACCEPTABLE
@Cadlier Some of them are for safety reasons and that's understandable (flying arm bars, for example). Others are purely for aesthetic reasons and that's no good. I would rather judo stay pure even if the IOC removes it, rather than stay in the olympics in incomplete form.
Isn't this just Tawara Gaeshi from a headlock?
Ok kinda ,interesting but looks easy to counter.
Is this the move that Diego Sanchez was going to use to kill Michael cheisa
How can a self defense maneuver be illegal?
It is legal in bjj
The legality does not interest me near as much as the pure effectiveness. Great technique, thank you.
Tawara Gaeshi?
sensei with all respect , i think that "Super illegal but effective .....judo throw" is more eyecatching because rather than being effective, more people will be more interested in it if the move is illegal.. hehehheeh
(Sees thumbnail)
Pokemon joke incoming ;) .
Very common in wrestling... don't do it!
These move are illegal for a reason do not use such move for regular fights against a trained or untrained opponent, you can easily damage someone’s neck with that . They might end’ up paralysed or dead .
If it’s a life or death situation indeed « Illegal » means nothing ... otherwise don’t .
Why is this move 'illegal'?
Illegal in what?
Are you really sure it's illegal? I don't see which rule is being broken here.
Cranking the neck
@@OrangeUtan1 he was disqualified in 2016 for using it. Generally the rule disallows standing kenetsu waza (joint control or lock) which a standing headlock definitely is.
@@kevionrogers2605 weird. I was told standing locks are allowed just incredibly hard to do
@@OrangeUtan1 they are not hard to do, but they are dangerous, because they don't allow an opponent the opportunity to tap (mate), because there is no gradualism in it's application.
Didn't saw 2016, but . . the referee should break & penalty people who bent forward for more then x seconds.
Seconds that allow the opponent time to chokes.
if someone gets it on you GO WITH IT!